============================================================== Guild: APEX Chat Channel: Castillo-Ito (CI) / katoa ============================================================== [25-Sep-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 Registered Katoa Global Site Owners to play back in this channel [25-Sep-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you're desperate for lfabs, i'm desperate for cash. π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand lightweight construction prefabs on sale now at BEN [25-Sep-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: thanks for those sweet sweet ship repositioning contracts @Sintheras [25-Sep-21 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Wow - there's no exchange demand for RCO at all? really? [25-Sep-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i need 5 of them [25-Sep-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: are you at cx? [25-Sep-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: or are they here on katoa? [26-Sep-21 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just hit the grow button [26-Sep-21 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so will have plenty soon [26-Sep-21 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: @derelict. any chance there will be π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand rfabs in the future as well? Those lfabs I've bought are lonely. [26-Sep-21 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: sooo someone bough all rat [26-Sep-21 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Must have been quite hungry... [26-Sep-21 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Well, guess I am going for another trip outside of Benten. [26-Sep-21 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Gamma Corp holding back disaster [26-Sep-21 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in 180 LST? Drop me a line. picked it up in Moria but plans have changed. [26-Sep-21 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Glad to be of help! @durandal [26-Sep-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Some small BEN->Katoa shipments on LM [26-Sep-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: INF built [26-Sep-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰ [26-Sep-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i should have a bunch of extra RAT/DW this week to feed CoGC with [26-Sep-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: woot [26-Sep-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Having a look at the CX, there's going to be a RAT problem again now [26-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah the golden ration sold again yesterday. who pays 166 CIS for RAT? [26-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: especially when hours later it was back down in the 70s [26-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Tiresome watching thousands of RAT come in and just pipping each other at the 160 mark [26-Sep-21 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have a freighter running BEN > KAT in 10 minutes [26-Sep-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 300tm3 avail [26-Sep-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: INF consumables posted on LM [26-Sep-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: SST will be up soon [26-Sep-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nice work! [26-Sep-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: last ad were accepted for the building materials on that [26-Sep-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: good job korbin, appreciate the work coordinating things for katoa [26-Sep-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll see what i can do about slotting somewhere to make some of these higher end upkeep consumables [26-Sep-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: unless we've got a good provider on tap [26-Sep-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Nothing is confirmed in my office. [26-Sep-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll start making SUN [26-Sep-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can't do OFF, I've no access to PG/EPO. [26-Sep-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's your area derelict :) [26-Sep-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i'll see what i can do. i've got like a month before i've got any real breathing room, but i might be able to get something running in the meantime [26-Sep-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: looking forward to a future where ship parts are less expensive. looks like we could conceivably do 1000t stl ships but it'd jack the price up another 200k or so [26-Sep-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and 550k for parts from madnewmy is already... uh... taking some planning. [26-Sep-21 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have RAT on the LM @ 80/u it's the last I'll be offering "beneath CX" [26-Sep-21 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also if ship parts really become a thing, we really need the ability to mod ships after the fact. looking forward to getting a new ship, but not looking forward to having to buy a whole new ship if larger cargo bays become more viable [26-Sep-21 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: especially since i can't demolish or sell the old one [26-Sep-21 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: what in the blazes just happened to rations [26-Sep-21 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: did they sell out again? [26-Sep-21 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: close [26-Sep-21 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well, i've got almost 2k RAT at Prox i can bring around over the next 2-3 days. [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nux-fan-69** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tlay_Uda** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TonyGeorgiev** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pier** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***freeze27** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowLte** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cygnus80** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wal_rider** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nathor7** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Macsaw** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uncodeable** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hawkwood** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RunicFox** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PeLLi_Atreides** joined.* [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: whoever buys out rations in the market has to know that they're throwing the BEN economy out of whack for a week whenever they do this [26-Sep-21 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: smartdog's laughing his behind off i'm sure. he's been collecting RAT in the 50s/60s for weeks, and put a ton up at max when they sold out. looks like he sold most of them, probably for 3x what he paid for them [26-Sep-21 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah weird indirect effects -- like my lfabs will probably sell slower because if people have to spend more on RAT they can no longer afford pricy expansion items like lfabs [26-Sep-21 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: yeah, rat price increases will go up the whole economy and slow down business in general [26-Sep-21 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Blue Mater is back [26-Sep-21 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the little vulture [26-Sep-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: lol dem rat prices O_o [26-Sep-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 200t available space for Moria to Katoa/Benten [26-Sep-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: waiting 10 minutes [26-Sep-21 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: departing [26-Sep-21 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brandenz517** joined.* [27-Sep-21 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aiform** joined.* [27-Sep-21 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mysterious_ask2732** joined.* [27-Sep-21 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: looking for NL again; i posted at cx but will gladly put up an lm ad for the same price here if anyone has some; ping me here or discord [27-Sep-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i'm all about high PT prices but that ask at 400 is probably a bit crazy [27-Sep-21 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: only need 1 buyer..depends how desperate they are [27-Sep-21 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: "convenient pricing" [27-Sep-21 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: If someone wants to sell me some STL at a good price, I will sell you back PT at a good price. [27-Sep-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 380tm3 of space about to travel BEN > KAT [27-Sep-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Any takers, get your ads up! [27-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Oh, give me a moment to grab some stuff if you haven't left already [27-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nope, can wait [27-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 334tm3 remaining [27-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Excellent, thanks, should only be a moment [27-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 5/tm3 [27-Sep-21 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or thereabouts [27-Sep-21 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pay more I'll add it to fuel and burn faster [27-Sep-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Ok ads up here [27-Sep-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 189 tm3 remaining [27-Sep-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: last call [27-Sep-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: How fast? [27-Sep-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: let me check [27-Sep-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10.5h [27-Sep-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I'll post in a sec. 3 orders. [27-Sep-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: roger [27-Sep-21 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wrong direction? [27-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Oh, sorry, my bad. Just got off work, still fried. [27-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: LOL [27-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *adjusts collar nervously* [27-Sep-21 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yeah I am heading to BEN not the other way. [27-Sep-21 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :( [27-Sep-21 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay i'll depart now then! [27-Sep-21 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Sorry for confusion. [27-Sep-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: HMS available for all your technicians. Send me a DM [27-Sep-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Contract on BBH for SST fell through. I hope to have new ad filed soon. [27-Sep-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: SST Built, consumables on the market soon [27-Sep-21 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm flying Katoa > Benten > Etherwind; departing Katoa in ~6hrs. Not entirely sure how much space I have, but if you're interested please drop me a line. [28-Sep-21 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shirase**: Fiannaly starting to make profits. [28-Sep-21 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: what are these "profits" you speak of [28-Sep-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: departing from katoa to benten station shortly, have 300 space if anyone has anything to go [28-Sep-21 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CrimsonCoder**: Buying for DW up on the LM. 75 each [28-Sep-21 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: gotcha [28-Sep-21 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FAFNIR77** joined.* [28-Sep-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in purchasing 3k PE on the LM? DM me. [28-Sep-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's nearly 4k of return shipping on offer for anyone who wants to fly Katoa>BEN>Katoa [28-Sep-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: 1d return trip is fuely [28-Sep-21 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Small liquidity sale of 30 OVE for 48 each on local market [28-Sep-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: fuely? [28-Sep-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Almost, it's for a transport ad so someone else's fuel costs haha [28-Sep-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 98 SF for BEN>Kat = 750 CIS [28-Sep-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Oh wait [28-Sep-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I post at proper rates :) [28-Sep-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So does Hyperion Industries [28-Sep-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I didn't notice what you were responding to lol [28-Sep-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well I don't understand what durandal was saying [28-Sep-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but for what, 1.5-2k fuel (depending on what you want to burn) there's 3.7k shipping on offer, with space for your own goods [28-Sep-21 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: deep thoughts, with neke [28-Sep-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ..? [28-Sep-21 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you've got a problem and compose yourself long enough to write coherently, state it plainly [29-Sep-21 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Also, with how shipping contracts currently work you can make it a 2 day return trip even if it's posted as "within 1 day". The time limit applies to each step in the contract so first you have 1 day to pick the goods up, then from that point you have one day to deliver them [29-Sep-21 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maalof** joined.* [29-Sep-21 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: wow, deeper thoughts with neke! [29-Sep-21 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @UberGrunk yeah, i think we should all try to not abuse that, i'm pretty sure nobody is excited when they see that happen [29-Sep-21 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: carbon going for 350 NCCs 🀀 [29-Sep-21 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: @durandal Agreed! I've only been on the "receiving end" of it and it really sucks! But the sad reality is that as long as the system is built this way it's gonna keep happening [29-Sep-21 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: yeah, i've only had to deal with it as well, it also get silly egregious on longer contracts [29-Sep-21 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Definetly! [29-Sep-21 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: There technically isn't such a thing as a 1-day delivery contract with how things work right now and the worst part is when people accept the contract before they're even there, potentially taking it from someone who could deliver it faster [29-Sep-21 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: Yep, hopefully they address is. I had ships in flight to BEN and could have grabbed that 2.5k return flight contract BUT I would have had to abuse the pickup window. [29-Sep-21 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: I think everyone is respecting the shipping contracts pretty well in our system. It's like 1/10 times I have to deal with it and its the same 1-2 people doing it. [29-Sep-21 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Yeah, it has only happened to me a few times aswell, thankfully [29-Sep-21 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lulas** joined.* [29-Sep-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: 1hr delivery :) [29-Sep-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: space bezos just sent me a cease and desist [29-Sep-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: so much for that idea [29-Sep-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: XD [29-Sep-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: These days Space Bezos is the same guy as Earth Bezos :P [29-Sep-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: does trickle down work when they're in orbit? i'm not sure [29-Sep-21 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Good thing Bezos can't get to orbit 😌 [29-Sep-21 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 170tm3 free space heading BEN > Katoa; ready for dep [29-Sep-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Trickle down works, but it's not money that trickles down. [29-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Panda00**: my soft lock comes to an end in 15 minutes when my ship returns from the station [29-Sep-21 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tmd45x** joined.* [29-Sep-21 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: consumables posted. medical supplies needed asap [30-Sep-21 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone need a lift up to the station? [30-Sep-21 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ganessi** joined.* [30-Sep-21 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Please do not accept government consumable ads unless you are ready to fill. I can not pay until the order is filled by the supplier. [30-Sep-21 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i changed up my production to take the ad, will fill in the time period [30-Sep-21 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: alternative is not pickup the ad so i'm not stuck with something i didn't want to build otherwise [30-Sep-21 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MuddyBrown** joined.* [30-Sep-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: got a ship stationary at katoa if anyone has a full cargo shipment they need transporting to benten or moria stations as i need the funds for expansion hehe [30-Sep-21 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: New election!!! [30-Sep-21 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: Korbin you have my vote... I know you are corporate spy. But you are doing a good job and at least have its own corp and is from our faction. Something we cannot say from the other candidate. Those moria people... digged in the mines, they don't, know nothing about katoa life. [30-Sep-21 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Thanks sisso! Ill keep doing my best as governor, always and forever. So far I have Built the CoGC, SST, INF and kept the CoGC stock for full benefits. I plan on keep doing the same for the SST and INF as well. Thank you to everyone who votes for me! [30-Sep-21 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: you have my vote too Korbin [30-Sep-21 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: where do i collect the briefcase of cash? [30-Sep-21 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehe [30-Sep-21 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if i dont have a warehouser and a buy order completes, where is it stored? [30-Sep-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I believe a contract is generated that you can fulfill pickup on [30-Sep-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh yes i see it, ty [30-Sep-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: another korbin voter here; mr dallas has held up his end of the bargain for some time now. you're doing good work governor [30-Sep-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll be dumping 1,500 H2O on the CX in ~3h05m. Get your orders in (or beat me to it). [30-Sep-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cercse** joined.* [30-Sep-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drezley** joined.* [30-Sep-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm actually not from Moria, I just started in Moria to take advantage of the cheap prefab prices and then flew here for my first base lol. [30-Sep-21 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Exactly what someone from Moria would say. [30-Sep-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Who WOULD admit to being from Moria? [30-Sep-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: You can always spot the nuevo Katoans by the way they wrinkle their noses at the sweet sweet essence of ammonia that pervades everything that we eat and drink on Katoa. [30-Sep-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: So much nicer than that awful metallic iron taste in Morian food and drink. [30-Sep-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Still, it is better than that salty muck from Hortus or that crunchy, sandy texture from Phobos. [01-Oct-21 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mazyrian** joined.* [01-Oct-21 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: have a cargo from katoa to mor cx on LM. fyi. [01-Oct-21 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: Sooo Korbins just said "always and forever". Looks like someone is planing to become a Emperor. [01-Oct-21 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: Let's keep the pickforks on hands for next elections [01-Oct-21 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: thanks for the water nake86 [01-Oct-21 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The Guild brings water for all [01-Oct-21 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hmm both my ships on 1day shipment runs, guess ill see you all in 24 hours lol [01-Oct-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: dont misquote me [01-Oct-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Ill keep doing my best as governor, always and forever. [01-Oct-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: means so as long as I am Governor [01-Oct-21 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: anyways, RAT is always cutting it too close to deadlines so I bumped the price 5 [01-Oct-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: :) [01-Oct-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi all, i need 2x BBH, can anyone do me a deal on LM? [01-Oct-21 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Anyone want to sell me a small quantity of H? [01-Oct-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: how much? [01-Oct-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: 10 would get me out of trouble. Could do with say 100 SF too [01-Oct-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'll have rebuy it at the CX at 80ish/unit [01-Oct-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I have SF 100ish units [01-Oct-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: cancelled a production line to get it. [01-Oct-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: You need to factor in fees as well, say 10 for 1200? [01-Oct-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: sure I have more.. can do up to 40 ish units [01-Oct-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: will pay 1000 for 100 sf too [01-Oct-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: and I have 108 units of SF [01-Oct-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: put up the orders and i'll fill them. [01-Oct-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Sounds good [01-Oct-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Ah, can't post orders. Only Basic [01-Oct-21 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: ok I'll post them lol [01-Oct-21 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: :-) [01-Oct-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Thanks [01-Oct-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: As governor I would try to maintain the current infrastructure, and I would like to vault us into higher tech production. [01-Oct-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Or.... [01-Oct-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'd like to work on the "secret" dev project that will be coming up. [01-Oct-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/faction-expansion-contest-phase-1-setup/3762?u=molp {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/faction-expansion-contest-phase-1-setup/3762?u=molp Faction Expansion Contest - Phase 1: Setup Faction Expansion Contest - Phase 1: Setup Welcome to the Faction Expansion Contest! In the recent past, we were contacted by several players asking when player-built commodity exchanges are going to be introduced to the game. These players wanted to expand beyond the faction space and the nearby systems in order to start a new buzzing hub in g... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [02-Oct-21 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zorox469** joined.* [02-Oct-21 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Annothe**: I don't see how is that relevant to us, we already have CX in system.. [02-Oct-21 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***optigamer** joined.* [02-Oct-21 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: Annothe: that was anti-climax [02-Oct-21 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pleinair** joined.* [02-Oct-21 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: you guys only gave me 32 techs :( [02-Oct-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Procytron**: Welcome Plenair! [02-Oct-21 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: Hello Katoans! [02-Oct-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hiya [02-Oct-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to sell me 4x BSE on LM at best price possible? [02-Oct-21 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: @karr1981 I can sell you for the lower selling price in CX (1200), but you have to create the AD, I am basic [02-Oct-21 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***smhrdl** joined.* [02-Oct-21 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: il lcreate buy order now, how much you want for the 4? [02-Oct-21 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i cna afford 4500 is that ok? [02-Oct-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy order placed on LM [02-Oct-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: karr1981 I don't see it, did you place in katoa LM? [02-Oct-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sorry sisso i think soeone else picked it up [02-Oct-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: ah ok... all good, was too cheap anyway, good for everybody :) [02-Oct-21 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mucketymuck** joined.* [02-Oct-21 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to mor cx on LM. [02-Oct-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Becket** joined.* [02-Oct-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so... um... i don't suppose anyone's making a breakneck flight from umbra to katoa in the next couple hours are they? [02-Oct-21 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: <-- stupidhead here forgot to ship a bunch of H home and the REFs are about to dry up (again) [02-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: alternately if someone has 100-150 H to sell at a reasonable price, hmu [02-Oct-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gfeller** joined.* [02-Oct-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: reasonably priced H buy up on LM [02-Oct-21 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thx bob! [02-Oct-21 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Annothe**: you're welcome :) [02-Oct-21 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol i never realized your name wasn't bob. just kind of assumed ;) [02-Oct-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Annothe**: it's allusion to Bob Ross :) [02-Oct-21 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well now it's even cooler. i have a bob ross calendar up on my wall. which reminds me, it's october. time for a new happy little painting. [02-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: october's quote: 'this would be a good place for my little squirrel to live' [02-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Annothe**: Awesome! I hope one day I'll take brush myself.. [02-Oct-21 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got anything they need bringing back fomr moria to katoa? ill be there for a few more hours, currently 400 space [02-Oct-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah someone was looking for shipping one second [02-Oct-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @daemeus [DAEM] [02-Oct-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It might've been solved as I cannot see any shipping ads [02-Oct-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: no worries ill keep a lok out incase any pop up [02-Oct-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i grabbed yours sarantia [02-Oct-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I have 50 FEO to fill up your hold with what ever space you have left. [02-Oct-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Not willing to pay proper prices though. [02-Oct-21 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: 295 tons [02-Oct-21 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive got 450m3 and 440t available, let me know how much you want to pay for that space [02-Oct-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I'll pay 500. [02-Oct-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I could do it for 1000, that plus the other shipment will cover my fuel and i can leave immediately for you [02-Oct-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I have a ship heading there in a couple of days anyways. [02-Oct-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok np [02-Oct-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yeah, I didn't pay 2000 for that load. FEO is cheap in Moria. [02-Oct-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You should still pay for shipping. [02-Oct-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The fact the cargo is cheap is irrelevant [02-Oct-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's just your good fortune. [02-Oct-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Timing wise I don't need it until after my next ship gets there. Then the shipping is free. [02-Oct-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well no, then you pay for it with your ship :) [02-Oct-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it costs you far more than 500 [02-Oct-21 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I'm not going there for that shipment. I'm going there for PSL and glass that we don't have locally. The FEO fits in the cargo hold. [02-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Doesn't matter what's in the hold, the return trip costs about 4.5-5k [02-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I see your side, you're making that trip anyway [02-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yes, but if I am already paying that then it does not cost me more. [02-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so 500 extra to karr [02-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [02-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but the reality is both of you are making trips for far too little [02-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (although I get you need those higher value items) [02-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: its ok Neke i made good money on the out trip, so happy to do a reduced price return to help out locals, just not that reduce,d but its cool [02-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: just wanted to offer here first before contacting others [02-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: That is why I did not post it for shipment, not willing to pay proper pricing. [02-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep thats fair enough [02-Oct-21 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: The CLI for continued MHL production is more urgent. That is why I even put that one up. [02-Oct-21 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Unrelated, I'll be dumping another 1,500 H2O on the CX in ~17-19hrs [02-Oct-21 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and a few hundred water [02-Oct-21 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If people wish to secure it with LM contracts please dm me [02-Oct-21 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: as the ships heading to Katoa as well [03-Oct-21 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will be running Benten to Katoa in 12 hours [03-Oct-21 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Themistophene** joined.* [03-Oct-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***smiles094** joined.* [03-Oct-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DridriLaBastos** joined.* [03-Oct-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Looking for 1 LBH, my PP2 is tied up atm [03-Oct-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: order on lm, thanks ahead of time! [03-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dumping water in 5 [03-Oct-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Done [03-Oct-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***brocro** joined.* [03-Oct-21 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want to sell me some C on the LM? [03-Oct-21 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BMPs about to run dry [03-Oct-21 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got an ad up for the last BTA I need, 1,300 :) [03-Oct-21 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if aynone has a spare! [03-Oct-21 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CSG SHIPPING: CHOAM guild freighter SHAI-HULUD departs Katoa (UV-351a) for Etherwind (KW-688c) in no later than 5h53m. 446.5t / 444.6m3 avail @ 6.5 CIS per t/m3. [04-Oct-21 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: damn sorryt neke ive just sold my last pile of C, im only a small producer producing about 24 a day, ill have 30 in approx 24 hours if of any use? [04-Oct-21 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: @neke86 [04-Oct-21 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: do we need to upgrade our saftey station? [04-Oct-21 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TokAlper** joined.* [04-Oct-21 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: The effect of the SST has yet to been seen. We need to be able to feed the current level first [04-Oct-21 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to hlep me out and fulfill my 3 buy orders on LM (BSE, BBH , BTA) [04-Oct-21 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: you should probably offer more. [04-Oct-21 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: but there you go [04-Oct-21 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate [04-Oct-21 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if yo uwant to sell me 2 BDE i cna pay a bit more to make up fo rthe rest? i could pay 2500 for 2 BDE? [04-Oct-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: sure [04-Oct-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i posted the ad [04-Oct-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok ill put the buy order up now [04-Oct-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh cool accepted [04-Oct-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***2021larson** joined.* [04-Oct-21 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: anyone have a spare BTA? [04-Oct-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yes [04-Oct-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'll pay up to 1500 for a BTA [04-Oct-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Ok [04-Oct-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** joined.* [04-Oct-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Post it in LM [04-Oct-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: posted [04-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Clicked too fast. You are off by a zero. [04-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I noticed [04-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: There is a order up for the missing amount [04-Oct-21 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: clicked to fast-the real order is up... consider me throughly embarassed. [04-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: don't fill the other one. [04-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: :( [04-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I really wish there was a mutually cancel button the local market orders. [04-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yeah. Different colors between buy and sell orders would also be nice. [04-Oct-21 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Ouff the prefab market is starting to collaspe. [04-Oct-21 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I have a massive shipment of ALO coming in the next few days. [04-Oct-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've got ALO coming out my ears; hundreds to spare. it's mostly down in deimos though. and yeah, i expect bfabs to get down pretty low in the next week or two unless we get another new player explosion, like, now [04-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: once the FE drops below 300 for asks on MOR, then you know the crunch is coming [04-Oct-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay but its not a collapse [04-Oct-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its a correction [04-Oct-21 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: having watched it cycle a couple times, when prices get down really low it feels bad for everyone -- it's tough to watch the same or increased production make less profits every week. yes the things you buy are cheaper too, but still [04-Oct-21 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's every industry :P [04-Oct-21 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Only fabs halts and ransoms expansion [04-Oct-21 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: except for people in corps [04-Oct-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: fab deflation is a pretty good bellwether for overall deflation. i actually really liked it last time fab prices spiked, because it meant everything would get more expensive and end the deflation cycle we had been on for a while previously. are fabs generally overpriced? yeah. but they tend to be pretty good indicators of overall economy too. if they drop significantly, they won't just be 'correcting' in a vacuum, it'll be a drop in everything [04-Oct-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well DW is heavily depressed and even the RAT uptick collapsed quickly [04-Oct-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cyclic industries [04-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: indeed. new player influx has a huge effect on those cycles as well. surest way to make all prices rise is to introduce a good chunk of new players, even if most of them don't stay [04-Oct-21 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Panda00**: anyone know how i can raise my company rating? I cant interact with the local market at all without doing so first [04-Oct-21 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Panda00**: nvm its cuz I dont have a pro license [04-Oct-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Charlesthedisciple**: hey, @neke86, check your PMs please. I gotta get off here in a bit [05-Oct-21 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: it's a premium feature Panda00, only pro users have rating [05-Oct-21 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: its only a small amount (28) but ive put up some C on LM [05-Oct-21 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I was plannign on initially just focusing on growing my C production capacity, but ive seen a coupel of times a demand for Ammonia, so wondering if i should get some production of that also or just focus on C? my aim for initial business is to focus on basic items [05-Oct-21 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Buy order for 3x BSE posted @3000 [05-Oct-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Need 16 BSE, posted in LM [05-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I would be shocked if someone filled a 16 BSE order @ 800/u [05-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ^ i know i wouldn't [05-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fill it? or be shocked? [05-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: fill it. betsy's cheap, but she's not that cheap [05-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: guy is one day old, so [05-Oct-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah, no judgement, just an honest assessment. 800/u is unlikely to buy BSE. at least not on katoa LM [05-Oct-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: barely buy it on Moria CX [05-Oct-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: damn bse's back down to 800 at MOR? time to head on over there again, even with the bad sf prices [05-Oct-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lower even [05-Oct-21 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: need 48 of them for umbra repairs [05-Oct-21 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well, only 32 or so by the time the ship gets back (thanks betsy!) [05-Oct-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: welp, time to head over to deimos and fire up 2 GF. should be blowin' glass before bedtime [05-Oct-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: (ship's already at ANT) [05-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: thanks guys :) yeah i'm 1 day old so no clue [05-Oct-21 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @bitrunner generally the LM won't be that useful and you'll need to transact on the CX [05-Oct-21 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: also most people seem to be flying empty ships around so you can put up shipping contracts and basically get picked up at any price [05-Oct-21 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: ohhh good to know [05-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: IT INV [05-Oct-21 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Thanks prun for randomly moving my cursor to the message window [05-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 3,000 PE, ~600 DW, and 1,600 H2O arriving at Katoa in ~9h30m if you wish to bid on it before it goes off to market please send me a DM or simply post an ad and let me know! [05-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3,000 | 500 | 1,200 [05-Oct-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: anyone have any spare COF-about 5 units and 1 KOM, I need to speed up a order. [05-Oct-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: take that PE over to MOR PE.NC1 [05-Oct-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: WTF? [05-Oct-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: oh wow thats madness [05-Oct-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: but Carbon is expensive everywhere, so that might be why.. [05-Oct-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: was talking to fuyu earlier, who bought the last of the 9.99 offering just to see the price break 10 [05-Oct-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and sorry @frost, i don't do KOM and always seem to be running thin on COF, at least here on katoa, otherwise i'd spot you [05-Oct-21 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShutterEye**: we have lesser population even though happiness is over 70 [05-Oct-21 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ahh that explains why massive sharks have appeared suddently interested in >4 PE, something I'd not seen the entire time ive been playing before [05-Oct-21 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i remember when PE first went under 5, and folks claiming their businesses were ruined. ruined i tell you! [05-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: PE is valuable eh? [05-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in MOR it is right now [05-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: *snag [05-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: well, looks like carbon prices are gonna spike again, damn its already been so hard to get [05-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if i'd realized it before i sent my ship i would've sent a couple k [05-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah I might divert out Moria way [05-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PE/DW/C all worth it [05-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and get the Fabs 20-40% off [05-Oct-21 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I wonder if they are buying up for the CX challenge [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: BDE supply is not great on Montem. [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: true [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: maybe? but the Buy orders for PE are still only at 5.5 highest. its just the sell orders that got wiped out [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Curious as to why PE is spiking [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thoughts? [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: it may climb a bit, but probably wont have a huge volume at 8+ [05-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah if sellers sold to corps or kept product in reserve, that'd do it [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The increased price of C doesn't flow through as much as one might think given its 200 PE per C [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: low carbon supply, probably competing with metals [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: Lots of PP1's there, but BDE's are at 1.6k each. so that means not many producers of PE, but lots of people need BDE's to expand? [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's been a lag [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: classic rubber band in this economy [05-Oct-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: everyone stops making BDE all at once [05-Oct-21 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also i heard jacuribu quit, and that he made tons of PE and PG for the MOR region [05-Oct-21 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so that might be part of it too [05-Oct-21 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: its kind of amazing to think that one player quitting could wreck an industry [05-Oct-21 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: when that one player was running the most bases of any player in the game i guess [05-Oct-21 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: kind of like if bezos decided the whole ecommerce thing was a fad and he was over it [05-Oct-21 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i imagine it would do all kinds of wonky things to various supply and shipping industries [05-Oct-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: now do I knock down a FRM and stand up a HB1+BMP or what [05-Oct-21 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Jacuribu did quit [05-Oct-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: As a Nemesis member he produced a lot of the Moria economy [05-Oct-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Are you reading this from a prepared statement? [05-Oct-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: PG, PE, TCL(for R-fabs) [05-Oct-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: AR/ THF [05-Oct-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oof [05-Oct-21 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: He had 8 BMPs producing PE [05-Oct-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: jesus JUST PE? [05-Oct-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: yup [05-Oct-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: 7 WPL's producing NL [05-Oct-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well I have two to fearlessly step into the breach [05-Oct-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: and KV [05-Oct-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheDementedSpidey**: 800 PE a day per BMP, 6400 a day not even assuming all the possible bonuses [05-Oct-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: 3 CHP, and about 20 POLs [05-Oct-21 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: he made a lot of stuff for different corps on Moria. [05-Oct-21 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: which is why he became one of the unofficial members [05-Oct-21 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: to deal with other corps better. [05-Oct-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: He also made a ton of EPO-which is why none on the market now. [05-Oct-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Did he give a reason for quitting [05-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CodeCorrupt** joined.* [05-Oct-21 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've listed 23 MAI up cheap, 20% off CX [06-Oct-21 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: frustrated with slow pace of development, found a new game. [06-Oct-21 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [06-Oct-21 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: out of curiosity, what was the new game he found? [06-Oct-21 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Would be nice to see a history of coliqs and what assets were lost [06-Oct-21 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No one wants to bid on DW/H2O or PE before I send it off to market? [06-Oct-21 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from Ben cx to katoa posted on katoa LM [06-Oct-21 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Im about to run Katoa > Ben [06-Oct-21 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: Isn [06-Oct-21 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: 't it weird that I have 33% of the techs of this planet? [06-Oct-21 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Warframe @derelict [06-Oct-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: speed running @ 2 AMM/8hr [06-Oct-21 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it gets (kind of) better. with a couple experts and some luxuries you can get that down under 6 hours. and if you're making AMM your business you'll want several COL running at once. i probably wouldn't advise relying on AMM as your primary income though [06-Oct-21 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: right now, making it for refining STL fuel [06-Oct-21 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i think i still need a couple COL running at once since refining consumes it quicker [06-Oct-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: emergency supplies BEN>>KAT 2 day shipping needed! [06-Oct-21 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: sorry im sacked in for a little while [06-Oct-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: Korbin btw what is needed to get our saftey up? [06-Oct-21 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bigboom5** joined.* [06-Oct-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: steady supply of SST consumables [06-Oct-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks @neke86 supplies were low and all money just spent hehe [06-Oct-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If the order is small and the price fair I'll pretty much always fill it when I see it :) [06-Oct-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: cool as ill prob be buying a dayts worth each day for a coupel of days till i get some C made and sold hehe [06-Oct-21 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in a few more days flight times in benten will be about as good as they can possibly get. umbra, BEN, and katoa will all be at or near their closest orbits [07-Oct-21 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx posted on lm [07-Oct-21 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boris_gameing** joined.* [07-Oct-21 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: guys your techs will be gone by the time I build 4 LABs [07-Oct-21 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***skullgames** joined.* [07-Oct-21 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RareRiot** joined.* [07-Oct-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i still have yet to employ a single settler [07-Oct-21 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: they are pretty neat, the 3d model and walk animation of them moving around in the exoskeleton worksuit is well done [07-Oct-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Remember to vote for Frostwood for change! And better Local market prices from government goods [07-Oct-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Also don't forget to vote for Pioneers in the Chamber of commerce-don't let your 10% bonus go away! [07-Oct-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: good reminder, completely forgot bout cogc this week [07-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Change is bad! KATOA Governor Office, Unchanged since term 6 [07-Oct-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Dont let the planetary cash goto Frost's pet project to build a 2nd CX in Ben space. [07-Oct-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: As proposed by Frost, higher prices on consumables will come at the cost of higher taxes! [07-Oct-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Vote Kobin Dallas, every citizen gets a multipass! [07-Oct-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: What's the net net of feeding the planet below market to then get a production bonus [07-Oct-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: seems like it nets out negative [07-Oct-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: consumables are moves at much lower prices than I pay by corps [07-Oct-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I pay around market price on all the consumables. only 1 cycle when DW was around 100, I didnt pay premiums on DW. [07-Oct-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: ah ok, i guess the STR and TUB prices are just messed up [07-Oct-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: since those are both at a loss on the inputs alone [07-Oct-21 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I assure you its not a loss and I have 3 suppliers on STR. TUB prices were suggested to me by producer. [07-Oct-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: OFF is the concern. No one is producing it. [07-Oct-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I asked for medical supplies a few days ago and had people reach out to me. [07-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: the glass is worth more on the CX than the TUB [07-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: so whoever is making TUB with that glass is losing [07-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: but gotcha, i'll reflect on the prices and produce if it makes sense [07-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: thus far its been donation [07-Oct-21 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Most products are not produced with CX as in put prices. [07-Oct-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: But they could in theory sell the glass on CX, it's opportunity cost [07-Oct-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: But glass might just be low volume making it infeasible [07-Oct-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I think most glass is sold before it leaves the production line. [07-Oct-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: and unless ALU drops below 400 the same thing applies to STR [07-Oct-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: but if there are people lining up to feed it, that's great [07-Oct-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: people are happy with profit to help the government, cant say "lining up" but they are out there. [07-Oct-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: any solution to OFF? [07-Oct-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i think CL is tight [07-Oct-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: that's the limiting factor for me making OFF [07-Oct-21 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: The limit is a supply of CL [07-Oct-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: and HAL looks tight as well HAL->CL =/ [07-Oct-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Cant find any nearby planets with it. [07-Oct-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I think Kiruna is the best I saw, between BEN and MOR [07-Oct-21 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i could really use my tiny tiny H shipment from Benten if anyone has room :) [07-Oct-21 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Benten Station* [07-Oct-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: one of my ships is on way to benten station but wont be there for 17 hours sorry, if still needing then ill pick up the contract [07-Oct-21 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: thanks! [07-Oct-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @wyago kiruna does look decent [07-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Problem is that you need such a low amount of it that it does not make sense to import it unless someone around here has a PP3. [07-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: All you need is one CL to handle two rounds of upkeep. [07-Oct-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Hell, if I had more than a few NCC to rub together I would purchase the HAL and fill the orders... [07-Oct-21 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: what do you actually need? [07-Oct-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: DDT might be worth making here [07-Oct-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: trying to think what else i could use CL for [07-Oct-21 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I actually import HAL but took down all my POL's [07-Oct-21 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm rebuild them in close future and likely be able to make some OFF [07-Oct-21 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: don't really get why 1 day upkeep is ok thou [07-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: The OFF and EPO supplier quit [07-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Kiruna's probably the best nearby planet for that. [07-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: Kiruna is some little town in Sweden. Now you're telling me it's a planet, too? [07-Oct-21 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd buy DDT here [08-Oct-21 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll be buying HAL to restart a (few) CHP over on Umbra soon, mostly for EPO. but may be able to overproduce for CL, esp if i can get a good HAL supply [08-Oct-21 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and a way to get rid of NA [08-Oct-21 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CSG will be taking CL soon :) [08-Oct-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: πŸ₯² someone bought my fuel [08-Oct-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: praise be [08-Oct-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: damn i missed that shiment for 10 AIC T_T [08-Oct-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jt37067** joined.* [08-Oct-21 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cuteplushyshark** joined.* [08-Oct-21 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: lol taxes got raised. [08-Oct-21 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx posted on lm [08-Oct-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Yeah even as someone who wanted the higher tax + higher upkeep goods prices option, the change seems odd given the campaigning? [08-Oct-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: considering that Korbin ran against me on raising taxes... [08-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Yes, I have been keeping a close eye on the 2 week spending of the planet. With the new buildings consumables we were no longer breaking even. I spoke about raising taxes before last term, Most veteran players have been recommending me to raise taxes since I became Governor. Only now that reasoning is clear. My stance has never changed. I want to but goods from citizens of Katoa at a fair price so that the taxes can go to more buildings. I have served 2 terms and built 3 buildings. [08-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: buy* goods [08-Oct-21 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: Nothing wrong with the new settings. We need the facilities running. [08-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: heh it's just ironic that this fact was... missed during the campaign. I'm amused. [08-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: I read it - maybe some new players might have missed it. In game discussion is hard to keep up with anyway. [08-Oct-21 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: bit cheeky but cna anyone sell me 40 mcg for like 100 total, i messed up order of building and have everything ineed for habitat but no money and understaffed hehe, or i could pay about 500 NCC [08-Oct-21 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I have 40 MCG lying about. [08-Oct-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i cna make a buy order for 40 at either 200 CIS or 500 NCC [08-Oct-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'll take the NCC-warehouse fees you know [08-Oct-21 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok order posted tyvm [08-Oct-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: If anyone wants to donate anything to the CX expansion movement at Ementior feel free! [08-Oct-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/faction-expansion-arclight-frontier-ementior/3822 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/faction-expansion-arclight-frontier-ementior/3822 Faction Expansion: Arclight Frontier(Ementior) Greetings from Ementior Arclight Frontier is centred around Ementior(AM-783c) Why Ementior? The NEO faction is one of the most powerful factions in the game due to the rare combination of FEO and LST on Montem and the constructor option being one of the most powerful starts. Like Montem, Ementior is the only tier one world to have ALO and... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/LWFIMyItG2drIAzCvEcPHvEa5_y65JrHUB7_7djVkFI/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f07fd76a4f952dea47318eb8bf01074dbc7fe527.png [08-Oct-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Bases or bodies on the ground would be preferred. [08-Oct-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: What is the time frame on needing to set up a base on Ementior? Having another CX in this region would really help us compete with Moria. [08-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Sigh, I really wish you could tell if someone has not set up their shipping for auto-provision. [08-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: 3 months [08-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Looking at the behind-the-scenes posts for supporters, before devs hid the scores.... a ADM counts for a lot of points. [08-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: A CX on Ementior would also open up trade as you wouldn't have to deal with currency conversion. [08-Oct-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: And Ementior would need to import a fair bit of food. [08-Oct-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Right now it gets a lot of food from Pyrgos and Nemesis. [08-Oct-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: (and Carbon) [08-Oct-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I would love to make an Ementior base but I am still a low liquidity baby company [08-Oct-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Eh, I'm sold. I should be able to make a base there in about a month or so. [09-Oct-21 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: is ther only one planet with TS? bit odd [09-Oct-21 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: There are 17 planets with TS deposits [09-Oct-21 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: We managed to get some OFF but the supply was limited. I dropped it all on the SST rather than spliting it with INF this cycle because safety was more of an issue on last population report. No word if that will be a regular supply or not. If anyone can update me on the CL/EPO situation, that would be great. I hope everyone is having a great weekend! [09-Oct-21 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: @thanks Haestrom, I was using fio, so it is filtering bad plannets by default... intersting... [09-Oct-21 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: buy order on LM for BSE at CX if anyone feels like filling [09-Oct-21 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: guys, I'm taking all your techs soon [09-Oct-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Will that tech employment result in more engineers out of curiosity? Or does it depend more on POPI? [09-Oct-21 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: well... happiness is at 1.7% it probably capped by more than just unemployment [09-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: True [09-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Need to get that PAR [09-Oct-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: For the CX contest, Rather then 300 discords I'm going to work from the Ementior section of the UFO discord. https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP is the discord- type in !join Ementior in the access-request section of the discord, for those wanting to co-ordinate. [09-Oct-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COF up on the CX @ sub-extortion pricing :) [10-Oct-21 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Looks like we need BDE.... 24 units of it to complete the warehouse on Ementior, I'm brining hopefully enough BDE to complete the INF. [10-Oct-21 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: RCO on the LM @ 450/u [10-Oct-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also some COF [10-Oct-21 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anna-Maria** joined.* [10-Oct-21 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Charlesthedisciple**: got some C on the LM. Ill jump on in the AM to send it if it accepted tonight. night all [11-Oct-21 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone need 36 C, i listed it for 10k thinking fair but no takers so guess thats too much (277 each) let me know offers and i can relist [11-Oct-21 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Thanks Sisso [11-Oct-21 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lockdown** joined.* [11-Oct-21 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfrenault** joined.* [11-Oct-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: 277 fine for me, 60 SUN more :) [11-Oct-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: tyvm [11-Oct-21 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ShutterEye**: around what efficiency would a refinery have with only OVE, RAT, DW and PWO?? [11-Oct-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: anyone running proxion->katoa with free space in the next 24h? [11-Oct-21 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Sorry, had just left. [11-Oct-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Does some Katonian fellow produce DDT? My Herbs need some care.... [11-Oct-21 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Maybe @NoxW (CO NCS) [11-Oct-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoxW**: hi! I do make DDT, we can arrange something if you'd like @Pantalaimon, send me an in-game or discord DM and we'll figure something out :) [11-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 700 H2O hitting the CX in 4hrs [11-Oct-21 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Get your bids in :) [11-Oct-21 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or I'll bring the lot to Katoa for someone [12-Oct-21 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @NoxW, i messaged you via discord. [12-Oct-21 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [12-Oct-21 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: picked up half. can pick up remaining half in 2h unless someone else grabs it [12-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Hey @Sarantia sorry to bother but do you have the RAT provisions ready for our contract? [12-Oct-21 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Sorry about that, I filled that a few hours ago. Had a shipping delay. Still working out the schedule for my new base at Proxion. [12-Oct-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: No worries and many thanks :) [12-Oct-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got 11 BSE they could sell me? if so please dm me price and ill create buy order if icna afford [12-Oct-21 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm going to run an irresponsibly fast ship from BEN to KAT in about 12 minutes [12-Oct-21 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so if you wanted to buy on CX [12-Oct-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can have them home in a few hours [12-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Um, have you left yet? [12-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nope [12-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I was not expecting you to deliver that fast. Just a sec got some NL to sell. [12-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :) [12-Oct-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Second shipment up. [12-Oct-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: got them both [12-Oct-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone else? [12-Oct-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 200t avail [12-Oct-21 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I'l post another actually. [12-Oct-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that'll do me [12-Oct-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: putting all those fees into SF, will be planetside shortly [12-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: T + 3h37m [12-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: LOL, your making some fuel producers very happy. [12-Oct-21 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Given how close BEN/KAT are to each other right now, coinciding with <7 SF, I'm happy to pay :D [12-Oct-21 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone online to fulfil MCG right now? [13-Oct-21 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Did you sort out that MCG, @neke86? [13-Oct-21 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have indeed thank you for checking [13-Oct-21 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 32 C up on LM [13-Oct-21 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sarca92** joined.* [13-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NebulaNeos** joined.* [13-Oct-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rogarorange** joined.* [13-Oct-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***derSchotte** joined.* [13-Oct-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy order up for 50 RAT if anyone has to sell [13-Oct-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Put up a 100 CIS per ad for some emergency DW [13-Oct-21 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: if i can do it as a trial id be willin to sell [13-Oct-21 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Horvath86** joined.* [13-Oct-21 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: FYI it actually just got taken haha [13-Oct-21 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I don't know if you got PRO yet [13-Oct-21 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EsperUK** joined.* [13-Oct-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dyne** joined.* [13-Oct-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10 COF @ 400/u on the LM [13-Oct-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceCommunist** joined.* [13-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: thank you, coffee merchant [13-Oct-21 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can actually do another twenty, for fulfilment in ~ 8h40m if you're interested [13-Oct-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i have no money [13-Oct-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ever? [13-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll put them up on 3 day terms, your decision then ^_^ [13-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: it seems that way [13-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Haha [13-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I know [13-Oct-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm rarely above 10k liquid [13-Oct-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a nasty bfab habit [13-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Custom flag for Ementior from @wyago https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/9/908fc224d70e8adba95b5ca1ac877e8a8f48e4c4_2_345x230.png I really like the white fire. {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/9/908fc224d70e8adba95b5ca1ac877e8a8f48e4c4_2_345x230.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/NlrU_4_-24yKorv-1KAIJo9kC406wIWKK99Eta6CvtM/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/9/908fc224d70e8adba95b5ca1ac877e8a8f48e4c4_2_345x230.png [13-Oct-21 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***devron** joined.* [13-Oct-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: Hello guys I'm new in Katoa [13-Oct-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome :) [13-Oct-21 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi devron [13-Oct-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 24 C Sell on LM [14-Oct-21 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murloc** joined.* [14-Oct-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arceebi** joined.* [14-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enth** joined.* [14-Oct-21 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone selling 4x BSE or 4x BBH on LM? [14-Oct-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can fill that for you [14-Oct-21 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1300 for BBH and 1000 for BSE [14-Oct-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I also have MCG and BDE :) [14-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have money for the 4x BSE first, will put up buy now [14-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Set it to 3 days it'll be fine [14-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you can have what you need now :) [14-Oct-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i have a mostly full ship heading to benten station, anyone have something they need shipped? [14-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: um mostly empty*** [14-Oct-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i'll be heading out at the top of the hour [14-Oct-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok ill put the BBH buy up now with 3 day [14-Oct-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate [14-Oct-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: one last thing, could i grab 20 mcg, just noticed im 20 short of build [14-Oct-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure [14-Oct-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much? [14-Oct-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll post some katoa>benten shipping [14-Oct-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 18/u [14-Oct-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok posted (hop my maths is right) [14-Oct-21 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: shipping up @bitrunnr [14-Oct-21 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posting one more [14-Oct-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COF on the LM @ 405.60 [14-Oct-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: delivery in 4.5hrs [14-Oct-21 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: last call for deliveries to benton station [14-Oct-21 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: aw hell [14-Oct-21 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one more [14-Oct-21 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: too late? [14-Oct-21 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: nah post it up :) [14-Oct-21 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [14-Oct-21 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: whats ur flight time? [14-Oct-21 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: 6h [14-Oct-21 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: that alright? [14-Oct-21 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its perfect [14-Oct-21 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: alright, taking off [15-Oct-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: lol @neke86 i guess i'm just your personal delivery service [15-Oct-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: running back to katoa now with your shipments [15-Oct-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: going to sleep now o/ [15-Oct-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: appreciated [15-Oct-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: np anytime [15-Oct-21 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have put even more shipping up [15-Oct-21 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've placed, and will continue placing, surplus CAF on the CX @ 950, which correlates to COF around 350-360 for anyone with an FP and some DW :) [15-Oct-21 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Any chance anybody has 2 LSE for sale at 5000/u? I have a buy order at CX but can go through LM as well. [15-Oct-21 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bellum** joined.* [15-Oct-21 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @Haestrom I have 2 units I can deliver immediate on the LM at that price if you want to put them up [15-Oct-21 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: @durandal Ad is up, thank you. [15-Oct-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: np, thank you [15-Oct-21 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if anyone is flying katoa->ben today and has space in their ship, lmk. i'll post an ad to fill whatever remaining space you have at 5/t/m3. [15-Oct-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: is it worth getting PWO and COF for pioneers, does it make much difference? [15-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: COF seems a bit expensive for it, but PWO seems reaodsnaly priced if it makes much of a difference [15-Oct-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: PWO is basically always worth it, COF I've heard is good if you have good multipliers/a particularly good production line [15-Oct-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: cool ty [15-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hope your not just saying that cause you have PWO for sale hehe [15-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: jk [15-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Lmao yeah I was going to say [15-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Pay no mind to my suspicious PWO market sales ;) [15-Oct-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: COF gives a 13% production bonus. That is about 3 hours of production per day all else being equal. It is worth it if the price is low enough. 200 CIS/100 PIO, as offered by @neke86 is pretty good for that return. [15-Oct-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm selling around 400 at the minute but I'm working to lower it to 370ish [15-Oct-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: my problem is that large players buy the entire lot [15-Oct-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and no one else seems to pay it any attention on the LM [15-Oct-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: /shrug [15-Oct-21 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: My own production is ramping up. I'll eventually be selling some as well. Just so long as you keep delivering your H2O. [15-Oct-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Lower consumable prices will encourage a move to higher tiers, is my theory. [15-Oct-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap the H2O got a bit battered when I setup the HYF [15-Oct-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but will continue! [15-Oct-21 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got more CAF than my FPs can process too, so will keep listing that occasionally [15-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: List it on the LM. I'll buy. [15-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will do [15-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Wait why would low PIO consumable costs encourage higher tiers? [15-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: It makes it more affordable, if most of your costs are going into food and water it is harder to save up for the lfabs and the like. [15-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: But like I said, it is just a theory. [15-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Ah I see [15-Oct-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Another 65 COF lands in ~20hrs. Will fill buy orders up to 20 units as low as 375/u on the LM [15-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20 CAF as well, at 900/u [15-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: About 500 H2O as well, at 25/u [15-Oct-21 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And that's all from today's EW express service :) [15-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Spendy, but if you are wiling to wait on payment.... [15-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i understand this may be an option outside the game, but is there a way to consolidate interests? E.g. consolidate fuel refining efforts, ration provisioning, etc? [15-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: well i meant to put that in help channel. [15-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: if anyone in katoa has an idea, happy to hear it [15-Oct-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll take your water, @neke :) [15-Oct-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: looks like someone has an ad up for 200 already, i'll put one up for the other 300 [15-Oct-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: someone bought a bunch of my GL at CX already :) if anyone's in the market for a regular supply of GL lmk, i make ~100-150 extra per week right now [15-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: wow i have 50 LBH, 43 LTA, 31 LSE, and 30 LDE. i should probably sell some. [15-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Someone was after LBH here earlier [15-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: those are just the ones i have in system [15-Oct-21 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh i guess i don't have that many more on deimos yet. forgot i just came back form there. so 3-4 more of each down there [15-Oct-21 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: prob going to sell some to madnewmy to offset cash cost for ship parts. works for me because it frees up cash for INS and AEF [15-Oct-21 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and lfabs are expensive, but hard to sell [15-Oct-21 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah im lookin now and cant really find a use for them [15-Oct-21 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: im too low down the tech tree [15-Oct-21 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: was considering glass infra but dont really wanna compete with you onit [15-Oct-21 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah their primary use right now is a) building higher tier buildings, or tbh more often b) hq levels after 6 [15-Oct-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think soon there will be enough of a glass market to support us both [15-Oct-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: plus glass makes a lot of stuff [15-Oct-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thinking about feeding some of my extra back into the furnace for RG [15-Oct-21 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and then looking at what i can make with that, which is a lot of stuff [15-Oct-21 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: eh, not as much stuff as i thought [15-Oct-21 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but if i want to push deimos to pp3/pp4 i'll need some [15-Oct-21 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 3 pp2, 2 pp3, 1 pp4. i think i have just enough space left to do it [15-Oct-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: (i already have the 3 pp2) [15-Oct-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but the habs alone will be super expensive. [15-Oct-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you selling PG planetside these days? [15-Oct-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no i still run about 300-400/wk deficit until i clear out umbra after settling CB-282d [15-Oct-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: np [15-Oct-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will post to cx [15-Oct-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i may bet out of the FF biz at the same time; then just a COL or 2 on umbra should be all i need to run a bunch of chem there [15-Oct-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: FF is ok money, but i could definitely be using my area/workers more effectively [15-Oct-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: By that logic I should stop farming haha [15-Oct-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: efan sro pretty much made secondhand ff not a great option [15-Oct-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: (by secondhand i mean i purchase he3 rather than collect it myself) [15-Oct-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: derelict can I rely on being able to buy Lfabs from you? I want to tear down my pp2 haha [15-Oct-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: derelict is a lonewolf [15-Oct-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah relying on me is prob not the best option heh [15-Oct-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Haha cool [15-Oct-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: 🐺 [15-Oct-21 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but that said, i do have a bunch of lfabs, and once i get this ship purchased i'll be selling them [15-Oct-21 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the goal is down the line to recycle some of them into rfabs at the pp3s, and some of those into afabs at the pp4 [15-Oct-21 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: The 25 PIO of a pp2 is so annoying since BMPs take a full HB1 of PIO [15-Oct-21 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah low usage habs drive me nuts [15-Oct-21 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ok, i'm off to have an irl evening. but i'm sure i'll be back in a few hours [15-Oct-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: At least I finally have my WPL to live up to my company name [15-Oct-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You were doing well turning out OVE :) [15-Oct-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I stopped making my own because of it haha [15-Oct-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Lol nice [15-Oct-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: And now I can make OVE below the RCO recipe price 😈 [15-Oct-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i make a ton of OVE/PWO now -- it's amazing how many a BMP can churn out if you just keep feeding it COT and PG [15-Oct-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You've made PE+PG cheaper than RCO+PE ? [15-Oct-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: No the COT allows for it [15-Oct-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ohh [15-Oct-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Of course [15-Oct-21 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But you still need an RCO for that [15-Oct-21 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ? [15-Oct-21 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: iirc the pe+pg recipe is the worst, by a lot [15-Oct-21 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Yeah, it isn't worth the opportunity cost of not selling the COT, but OVE is much more liquid [15-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Yeah PE+PG only makes sense if somehow farms don't exist I guess [15-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you want to sell occasional COT lmk [15-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Except that requires carbon too πŸ€” [15-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think my OVE all in cost is ~ 21.15/u [15-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But I buy it off you because I have the FRMs on other things and PE going straight into other value add [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 21.15 is really good [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got the whole chain :) [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Wait how [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: From H2O through Carbon [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Oh wow even the carbon [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Ok nevermind I can't price compete with you lmao [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've 1500 PIO here :) [15-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: my recursively calculated cost per unit on OVE is like 31/u [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Also derelict go have your irl evening ;) [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol yeah [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: she's gonna be pissed i'm late again [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I can't hold you on the computer again like the frontend convo haha [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We can discuss recursive pricing of OVE another time [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol bbl [15-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I suspect the difference is that when I quote 21 its excluding lost opp-cost [15-Oct-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but I can make about 240 OVE a day at that price [15-Oct-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how liquid is the market @wyago lol? [15-Oct-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I'm excluding tons of COT opportunity cost too though πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ [15-Oct-21 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Hahaha maybe not quite that liquied [15-Oct-21 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's not sustainable though, would require the FRMs churning out RCO which means my bases would run out of food very quickly [15-Oct-21 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I leave it to the weaving experts :) [15-Oct-21 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Interesting, yeah self supporting makes the equations very different, a far away world for me [15-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do you grow RCO or buy it? [15-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Buy [15-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I only have BMP PP2 and WPL [15-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah [15-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: check your messages [16-Oct-21 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 24 C sell order up @7000, I cna currently produce 24 C a day so if anyone wants to buy the full run every day for their requirements happy to do a deal if they commit to ongoing purchasing [16-Oct-21 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: also chucked up 2 BDE if anyone needs [16-Oct-21 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap C, PE, and COF on the LM. headed to bed, will fulfill in 9-10 hours. [16-Oct-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vertix003** joined.* [16-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx posted in LM. [16-Oct-21 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @Ruyagormeyenadam check provisioning [16-Oct-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: anyonehere need BDE? [16-Oct-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i could use some BDE what's your price? [16-Oct-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: i'd like 1200 each. how much do you need? [16-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll buy 10 at that price [16-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: can do [16-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you put up an ad i'll grab it [16-Oct-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 🀝 [16-Oct-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: thanks for the business [16-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yw [16-Oct-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Doing a run to BEN in a couple of fours. Over 400 m/t free if ya want something moved cheap. just don't forget to autoprovision [16-Oct-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: hours [16-Oct-21 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the planets in our system are really well aligned right now [16-Oct-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: probably the best they'll be for quite some time [16-Oct-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: OK, I'm off [16-Oct-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh dang [16-Oct-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: too late? [16-Oct-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just sat down at laptop haaha [16-Oct-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Sorry [16-Oct-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no worries [16-Oct-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: I know its a bit late response but you might want to look at finding sellers that offer you good prices on he3 and h, im buying both and ff is still p much printing money for me [16-Oct-21 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's a pretty low margin buying both [16-Oct-21 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i make my h and buy my he3 and it's still far from my best margin product [16-Oct-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and i'm paying well below market for he3 [16-Oct-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: efan's oversupply pretty much guarantees low margins for ff [16-Oct-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in other news, in a flurry of LM activity i am now awaiting arrival of all my ship parts. a new π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand glass STL ship will be built on yannick this week once the parts come in :) [16-Oct-21 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: With average pricing FF looks like 1.6k daily per REF to me, pretty decent for something that high volume [16-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it doesn't sell that fast though [16-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and price is actually pretty good at cx now [16-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: often dips into the 9s [16-Oct-21 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Hmm yeah not great profit below 10 [16-Oct-21 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and actually i'm selling myself a bit short because my calcs use market ask for HE3 when i pay significantly less than that. shows my cost per unit somewhere around 5.85/u, when it's probably closer to 5 even or a little less [16-Oct-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also thank goodness the planets are close together right now and i make my own fuel. poor planning means lots of little too-fast trips the next couple days. [16-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also a ton of my stuff on umbra is in dire need of repair, so fixing those will help costs as well [16-Oct-21 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: right now the calcs assume i'm buying a fraction of my H from the market since my degraded buildings aren't producing quite enough to keep up with demand [16-Oct-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: nice thing about using FIO data, my calcs are always up to date, including current production line condition. i though about trying to extrapolate future degradation into projections, but that's a mess. good enough to be factoring current condition into production values [16-Oct-21 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I am not excited to need to repair stuff haha [16-Oct-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah one of my unscheduled flights is burning a bunch of fuel to jam out to umbra to repair a handful of COL and a ref [16-Oct-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i didn't realize how quickly they were going, but like half my col are down in the <85% eff bracket, which eats into needed production quickstyle [16-Oct-21 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i mean, i knew it was coming. i was just hoping i could get a new base up before it became dire. c'est la vie. [16-Oct-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll be headed out to settle CB-282d this week though i think [16-Oct-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: gas giants are expensive [16-Oct-21 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and both INS and AEF are ridiculously overpriced in BEN [16-Oct-21 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in still other news i may dump several thousand units of πŸš€β›½ π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand genuine rocket fuel on BEN CX in the next few hours. i've got quite a stockpile built up and don't feel like waiting for slow sales [16-Oct-21 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FF or SF? [16-Oct-21 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've got 8k SF there now [16-Oct-21 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: is it just me or did taxes just go up WAY high on planet? [16-Oct-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: there's been talk of increasing taxes, but idk if it was done [16-Oct-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: should be able to look through planetary rules [16-Oct-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hmm, doubled maybe? [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: doubled I think [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: from the lowest to double [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: still cheap compared to other planets [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no complaints from me [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: more taxes for more services or something? [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: we've got quite a bit of infrastructure [16-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: prob to fuel infrastructure upkeeps and new infra projects [16-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: we were running on donations for a bit, but that's unsustainable [16-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: donations must be erratic way to maintain a planet [16-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: esp as we get into upkeeps that are more unique [16-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: ah well i guess its worth it then [16-Oct-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: eh, just that people were contributing directly to e.g. cogc upkeep, but i think that's trailed off a bit [16-Oct-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same few people I think [16-Oct-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so now we have to pay for all those upkeep goods with tax money [16-Oct-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PhoenixCorp**: well another buyer of goods at the station I guess [16-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [16-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: speaking of, i should donate some rations if they're not full. i've got some extras kicking around [16-Oct-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: nope all full. which kind of sucks, should be a planetary project for 'upkeep storage' that lets us stockpile upkeep goods for infrastructure up to a certain amount [16-Oct-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i don't always have extra RAT during the window where upkeep is getting filled [16-Oct-21 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: i buy both at mm becouse i reach out to people instead of relying on cx or making h myself on shitty planets like umbra [16-Oct-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: and dont sell at cx but on prox lm instead and its p much printing money [16-Oct-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: wow that sounds great for you [16-Oct-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: my cost on h is significantly lower than mm [16-Oct-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You're buying RAT at MM just by asking? [16-Oct-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: if not for the fact that i cant ship all of it before i get glass ship i'd probably just mm all of it [16-Oct-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: what's your cost per unit to produce? [16-Oct-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: including materials and labor [16-Oct-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: this planets chat is giving me a stroke its like true newbie land with people not knowing what are they doing and two people making big deal of every minor thing [16-Oct-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ? [16-Oct-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you seem excited [16-Oct-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone in the market for some PE? [16-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: nope i have too much as it is [16-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: rag needs 29k up on the LM [16-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: take it up there ;) [16-Oct-21 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ? i don't see any such ad [16-Oct-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh sorry [16-Oct-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CX [16-Oct-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: strokin out here [16-Oct-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: must be the planet chat [16-Oct-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i hear it does that [16-Oct-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: turns my brain to jam [16-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but srsly he's got bids around 4.5 [16-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: whic im guessing u can profit off if I can :) [16-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: price is nice on PE all over. i wonder if it's all still fallout from jacuribu leaving [16-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh, PE? [16-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [16-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not PG [16-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: goddamn man this planet chat does cause the fuzzies [16-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah PE my cost is about 2/u, but again that's high because of umbra col degradation [16-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: im at 1.80 [16-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ur behind the game mate [16-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol not too concerned [16-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also my bmp is running at like 85% eff [16-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oof [16-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the one that makes PE [16-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's one of the things i'm flying out to repair right now :) [16-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ask my my cost tomorrow, i might have you beat :) [16-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1.78 is the exact number to beat right now [16-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sorry [16-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1.66 [16-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh yeah pe take carbon too, which i still buy some of as well [16-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: forgot I'd left some margin on my internal C pricing ;) [16-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so idk if i'm going to get to your numbers [16-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I negotiated sub-MM H off a gg [16-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i should give my app a breakdown on cost so i can see which constituent costs are adding up [16-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: beats setting up a base for it [16-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sure. my cost on h, even with my cols in disarray, is ~20/u [16-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: must be C and BMP eff then [16-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i think my C is expensive even internally because i'm just using leftover GRN to make it [16-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hardly the most efficient [16-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but then i buy about half my C, so since the calcs go off ask price, that inflates my cost artificially too [16-Oct-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: C ask is 335 rn. no way i'd pay that [16-Oct-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but i'd rather all my estimates be pessimistic. [16-Oct-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ^_^ [16-Oct-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh, my tool reports H cost at close to 30 per unit. i guess my cols are hurting worse than i thought :) [16-Oct-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: betsy been slackin off [16-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well, partial repairs in ~2.5h, so we'll see how much that helps [16-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: im off [16-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: catchya [16-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: l8 [16-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: i dont do my sheets at per unit, but my roi at 10 ea is just 8, where at mm its whooping 12 days [16-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: roi on what? a ref? [16-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: yep [16-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: doing ff [16-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: at my input prices [16-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: good on ya then. probably worth determining your actual cost per unit at some point to see what your margin actually is. [16-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: don't forget labor costs [16-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: my friend made sure to do so by calculating our labour costs, which we also cover by ourselves [16-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: so this is included [16-Oct-21 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: to get to 12d roi on a ref at FF at MM you'd need pricing around 120/u for HE3 and 40/u on H, so if you're getting those prices, then congratulations, that sounds like a pretty good business model. [16-Oct-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: would put your cost per unit right around 5, which is comparable to what i'm getting [16-Oct-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: while making your own h on i would assume umbra [16-Oct-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yep. that h also supplies 5 refs making SF though, which has better margins for me. [16-Oct-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and a couple POL making PG, which i use all over, and a BMP making PE as well [16-Oct-21 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: surprising that you get similar cost per unit/roi that i do while having every single consumable and input at mm price then, given that h gg generates about 3x the umbra h [16-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: h gg is next on my list, CB-282d. then i can tear down a bunch of COL on umbra and do advanced chem there instead. [16-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you'd have to be getting inputs at much lower than MM to get the roi you claim. [16-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also there's no MM for HE3, not sure what you think that price would be [16-Oct-21 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you think it's a cash cow, then go for it. for me, it's not even 100% profit (more like 80%), when i have several other products that are 200-300% profit. [16-Oct-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: If REP were liquid BMP would have ROI of like 4 days with plain old market prices lol [16-Oct-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah there's a few things like that, i caution folks against just running the rain's base planner roi numbers for that reason [16-Oct-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it'll often recommend recipes with no market, or with unrealistic input prices or unavailable inputs [16-Oct-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but i appreciate the wealth of formulas and tools you can get out of it by mucking around with it a bit [16-Oct-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Yeah I should put better volume detection in my tool, right now it just makes sure there's at least a bid/ask at all so that it'll at least not make it look like high level buildings are operable on the CX haha [16-Oct-21 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PretzelTheGreat** joined.* [17-Oct-21 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if anyone makes NL and wants to sell me some, lmk. i've got a CX bid up for 1700/u for 16 of them, happy to make the same offer planetside, or contact me to negotiate [17-Oct-21 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Anna-Maria**: when are prices for FF and SF will go up? I am hardly making any profit... [17-Oct-21 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: if posted a sell for your NL [17-Oct-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: @anna-Maria when supply decreases or demand increases, or if like in here in UK when a haulage group spreads fake news of driver shortages causing panic buying hehe [17-Oct-21 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 16 C Sel up at 281.25/u [17-Oct-21 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***unknownbeast1991** joined.* [17-Oct-21 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: you can also consider selling fuel on a different exchange. Prices for SF are lowest on BEN. [17-Oct-21 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: you can leave benten? ;p [17-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty knarf! [17-Oct-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome [17-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Is there any governmental interest in TUB and at what price? [17-Oct-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I see we're voting for new programs. I'm not sure what qualifies as manufacturing though. Anyone know? [17-Oct-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: It depends on the expertise requirement for the building, you can browse them in the construct window [17-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Ah, I see, thank hyou [17-Oct-21 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone around who cna sell me 2x BDE right now? [17-Oct-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks opie [17-Oct-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** deleted this message.* [17-Oct-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @wyago I have 200 FTL for 2k CIS right now if that would meet your need [17-Oct-21 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: That should be good, thanks [17-Oct-21 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: np, enjoy [17-Oct-21 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Took too much of my MCG off planet and short 100, buy order up for anyone looking to drop MCG :) 25/u [17-Oct-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheers Knarfaction :) [18-Oct-21 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_person** joined.* [18-Oct-21 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nicster** joined.* [18-Oct-21 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Hello Katoa! I am looking for someone who has a free ship, a BASIC or PRO account, and is looking for some extra cash with transports (with Katoa as endpoint). [18-Oct-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I am paying 10k for a roundtrip (6 Jumps each way). SF and FF are available for 6 CIS / 9 CIS on Katoa. [18-Oct-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Contact me ingame, or preferably on Discord if you are interested. [18-Oct-21 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: Hello Katoanians! I have a little trouble. Yesterday a take a shipping Ad (from Katoa to Benten Station)and fullfill the pickup task. [18-Oct-21 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: Today, my ship was arrived to Benten but the fullfill button in the Ad agreement is not active yet [18-Oct-21 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: what i need to do for complete this ad? [18-Oct-21 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: @DocWatz are u there? :) [18-Oct-21 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Hmm I ran into a similar problem the other day. I had to move the shipment from cargo to warehouse and then I could fufill [18-Oct-21 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I've only had to do that once though [18-Oct-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: :( [18-Oct-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: Thank u @bitrunnr [18-Oct-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: noooo I see the problem. I leave the Shipment in my base [18-Oct-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: :( [18-Oct-21 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @devron - thanks for the heads up - happy to extend the contract if you need some extra time to get back to Katoa to pick up the shipment [18-Oct-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @devron aw no!! how much STL fueld did you spend? [18-Oct-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: 200 +/- hehe no problem... I think that this is a common mistake. [18-Oct-21 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @devron i'm happy to spot you 100 STL if it would help a katoa friend [18-Oct-21 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: I will take your help if I need in the future bro hehe thanks. But for now I think that I can manage this ;) [18-Oct-21 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: I am very grateful @bitrunnr [18-Oct-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: No prob, anytime πŸ‘ [18-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i put up some low bids at CX for INS and AEF. if anyone makes those things get in touch and we can talk realistic pricing. i won't pay full market (esp not BEN market), but i'll come up a little for someone with a good supply. [18-Oct-21 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **devron**: Flaying - Katoa > Benten Station - leaving in 5 minutes aprox. [18-Oct-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: man the planets being so close is crazy. i burn ridiculous amounts of fuel because i can, but even so -- 2.5h from BEN to Katoa? that's insane [18-Oct-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it was under 10h on near minimum usage [18-Oct-21 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I'm sure our workforce is celebrating a celestial holiday [18-Oct-21 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: not on my watch. they don't get paid to celebrate [18-Oct-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: in fact, they don't get paid at all [18-Oct-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: space pants to keep them decent, calorie bars, just enough to keep them moving [18-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I think they start partying at TEC though, with their ALE [18-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COF @ 375 and H2O @ 20 on the LM; fulfilment in ~20hrs [18-Oct-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Could one of those COF lots be split into 16s? [18-Oct-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes, put up a buy and I'll cancel one of the sells [18-Oct-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: actually I'll just repost them as 16 [18-Oct-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: standby [18-Oct-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Excellent thanks [19-Oct-21 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I just posted some cheap DW and RAT on the LM. I need some CIS to pay my taxes, so please help me out. [19-Oct-21 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thanks [19-Oct-21 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome [19-Oct-21 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VEB152** joined.* [19-Oct-21 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: anyone have 6 BBH or 6 BDE they'd be willing to cut me a slight discount on? I'm having trouble keeping a competitive bid in the cx [19-Oct-21 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: not even a discount really, just a fair price. the price of those 2 are crazy for new players :) [19-Oct-21 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: is there a corporation active on katoa? How do you get part of a coorp? [19-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @Nicster I'm not sure if there are any based in Katoa but I know some are throughout the Benten region. There are recruiting channels in the faction discord: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ Community Resources :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [19-Oct-21 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: goto that discord at midnight, knock 3 times on the door, ask for bob [19-Oct-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: @Nicster join a corporation is to sell your soul, you will become a puppet of the old players, tell what to do and how to do. All of that just do unfair copetition against independent and new players.... [19-Oct-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: I disagree there are many friendly corps who let you do what you want and just plan accordingly [19-Oct-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: yes, that is what any corp member will say... join us... [19-Oct-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: I didnt say that [19-Oct-21 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: but you are right.... they are friendly.... and they plan you "accordingly" [19-Oct-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: Have a bad past relationship sisso? [19-Oct-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: im sorry [19-Oct-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: have a good day :) stay well [19-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: thanks! [19-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: I dont mean to be crude or mean with that as well. Just moving along :) happy to debate it via discord [19-Oct-21 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: I never had bad experience with corps. I never belong to a corp here. I don't want to debate, just alert the newcomers. [19-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pretty rough introduction! [19-Oct-21 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: CoGC orders up! [19-Oct-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi guys, anyone able to sell me 11x BSE, if so whats best price you can do? [19-Oct-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: they're ~937 on the CX [19-Oct-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: about as cheap as it ever gets around these parts [19-Oct-21 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i would be happy ot pay 950 each to save the trip to CX hehe [19-Oct-21 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: actually ill put a buy ordfer up for 11@ 1000 each [19-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Up to 136% PIO efficiency yeehaw [19-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: so basically meth? [19-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: COF aka "the little meth" [19-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: efficiency and tooth decay at all time highs [19-Oct-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I put extra in my COF wyago ;) [19-Oct-21 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just sent 128 units to the CX cos no one took the LM ads! [19-Oct-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: lol [19-Oct-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i need some COF in real life [19-Oct-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ~340t to move from Benten CX to Katoa, if anyone is around and wants a shipping contract DM me to arrange [19-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COF @ 380/u on the CX [19-Oct-21 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Dear citizens, I am catching much static over the increase in cost for a warehouse. Since the change to WH [19-Oct-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: where you can use the LM anywhere you have a WH, the benefit has increased greatly. As a result I did this increase to tax foreigner corporation a small amount as I was increasing production fees. [19-Oct-21 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Now larger Corporations are lashing out on me on Discord. I want you to know, I feel strongly that this is where you should be able to find the most reliable and up to date information about our planet. [19-Oct-21 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: IMO this decreases the amount of outside influence. I think it's important for me to have a clear communication line with companies on our planet. [19-Oct-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I bring this up for 2 reasons. #1. your input/feedback on the subject. #2 If you are on PrUn discord and want to have a more involved local feeling on Katoa, Let them know in the Katoa Politic channel [19-Oct-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: thanks [19-Oct-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i am in favor of the warehouse price increase. if you have regular business here it's a small difference. if you have warehouses everywhere, it's a small difference. and if it gets us some extra tax money for infra projects, that's great. [19-Oct-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: +1 in favor [19-Oct-21 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in other news, i now have all the parts for a new glass ship. but my ships are out touring the galaxy so i can't actually build it for another day or two :P [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I was thinking a glass ship would be nice. Does it work out well with all the asteroids? [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol no [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think one of my next projects will be a WEL [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: or HWP [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: rather [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: HWP please [19-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm flying to Proxion to pick up BHP [19-Oct-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The seller is very generous, but local would be better [19-Oct-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Plenty of WELders around already if you know which palms to grease [19-Oct-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah, and if i set it up right i should be able to match that price. plus glass ships tend to use LHP -- makes them fly faster -- but they get more beat up with our micrometeoroids [19-Oct-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and i don't think anyone is making those for regular sale yet [19-Oct-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: point is, I will frequent your HWP [19-Oct-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Both ships are in constant use, I've already repaired them both twice :D [19-Oct-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yep, i think it's a pretty foregone conclusion :) [19-Oct-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: That's why I'm hoping to get Ementior up and running as a CX [19-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: wow, i wait to 80% and i'm just about to hit repair 2 [19-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I did 85% [19-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: with its ALO supply it should be a good base for BHP repairs. [19-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And CSG has expanded to include one other frequent flyer [19-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How far away is Ementior? [19-Oct-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: 10 jumps-151 FF fuel there [19-Oct-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: for 302 FF round trip. [19-Oct-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: at minimum, i assume [19-Oct-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm thinking of eventually setting up a HWP there. [19-Oct-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's a long way to fly for something available on proxion [19-Oct-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think the project to fling huge amounts of MCG from out there into the primary CXs has some merit [19-Oct-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but after discussions with fuyu, shipping LST wasn't going to be viable [19-Oct-21 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Looks like the CX is almost out of MCG lol [19-Oct-21 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: For the CX project, I'm looking for 2.255.4 million for the two planets, either in goods or money. [19-Oct-21 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: @frostwood Wow! What a huge project. [19-Oct-21 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have *checks wallet* 9,000 CIS [19-Oct-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and some SIO dust that caught in my boots [19-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: @Korbin it'll be easier once the ADM goes up. [19-Oct-21 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: put up feeler local market bids. [19-Oct-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: @frostwood does this mean you will be to busy to run this term? [19-Oct-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone has 20 spare MCG they don't need, I've put up an ad at 30/u [19-Oct-21 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: 2 hour delivery fine? [19-Oct-21 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i gotchu bro [19-Oct-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: man it feels so weird looking at a GEN, SCB, SSL, SSC, LHP, BRS, CQT in my inventory. 24h and they'll be on their way to yannick [19-Oct-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thanks debris! [19-Oct-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand products stand for katoa ✊ [19-Oct-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It was the missing piece for FP #10 [19-Oct-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: five to go [19-Oct-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: niiice [19-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Incidentally if you have surplus LST on Prox I've placed small ads over there [19-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i bought some MCG for repairs and base building, and then remembered my next base needs AEF and INS, not MCG [19-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but they're a bit lowball [19-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was looking at Ben-D but the auxiliary costs are prohibitve at the moment [19-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i actually just offloaded all my LST from prox, the base storage was getting full [19-Oct-21 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sold to market or shipped somewhere? [19-Oct-21 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm actually wondering now about the gg in ebisu, with he on it. but i don't think there's really a worthwhile he market. but if i'm going more advanced tech there are a few buildings that every recipe wants he [19-Oct-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it's all at cx now i think, where no one is buying it [19-Oct-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha [19-Oct-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can cancel my bids over on Prox and list here [19-Oct-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will you take 75? [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: looks like low ask at market is 97.88, mine are all listed at 99.9x [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hmm [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its the usual LSt problem [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll take 80 [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: people willfill <60 on prox [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure [19-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one moment [19-Oct-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i bet there are desparate folks on prox occasionally -- that lst chews up base storage quick [19-Oct-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also shipping it is awful [19-Oct-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: although prox>ben is a short hop [19-Oct-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but I can usually get it back planetside to Katoa for ~65ish [19-Oct-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah with the planets so close and prox so close and me not caring about fuel i made probably a dozen little trips over the last few days between kat/BEN/prox [19-Oct-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I listed another 42 [19-Oct-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: didnt realise you had two lots up there [19-Oct-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: whereas i use a bunch of mine, and what i don't use i just leave up at ask prices at cx until i just can't stand it anymore and sell to high bid [19-Oct-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh I should have waited ;) [19-Oct-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol you would have waited a while [19-Oct-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: my business isn't exactly living or dying by your 10k contribution :P [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You never know [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one day [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i just wish there was an easy way to exchange currency without eating a ton in conversion costs [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: C [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm still sitting on almost 400k because mad took mostly lfabs for payment [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but what i'd really want to spend it on is in MOR [19-Oct-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: piles and piles of INS [19-Oct-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: think i'm going to do a pair of pp3 on deimos though, and finally have to start worrying about tech consumables [19-Oct-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: then prob a couple labs on umbra once i get my H supply base set up [19-Oct-21 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah to convert the kind of money i want i need something lightweight, expensive, but with high liquidity. not a lot of options currently [19-Oct-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: If you do figure out your FX conundrum I've got a ship that'll be on MOR tomorrow with very little to bring back [19-Oct-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: But you'll probably need to have a ship head out there anyway for FX-by-goods [19-Oct-21 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: actually just landed, put SF and PE on the market. i need to go every week just to feed my COF habit [19-Oct-21 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: The COF must flow [19-Oct-21 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no way i pay BEN prices, the savings on ~120 COF for my bases more than pays for the trip by itself [19-Oct-21 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I won't have you slandering my CX prices right here in front of me [19-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: your prices are fine, for the plebs that can't afford weekly mor trips [19-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MOR is running 300-330 isnt it? [19-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: on average I mean [19-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: <-- apologizes, that was crass [19-Oct-21 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah something like that [19-Oct-21 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well by the time you adjust for having to sell your product into NCC in order to pay NCC prices for COF, it should be coming out close [19-Oct-21 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I don't know what the "real" exchange rate for NCC and CIS are but even 20% brings 330 over local prices [19-Oct-21 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: maybe less so now that DW/RAT have collapsed a bit here [19-Oct-21 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it's not like you can FXOB your way through it at <1.20 [19-Oct-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: all i know is i bring SF and some other odds and ends, most of which sell for more there than here, and come back with metal and coffee and fabs, all of which sell for less there than here [19-Oct-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah yeah, SF is depressed market on both exchanges [19-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh wow it's actually improved on NC1 actually [19-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: for a while there i was taking a loss on everything i brought there to sell, and it _still_ made economic sense for the savings on COF and FE [19-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's relatively recent [19-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I considered taking the COF there to buy FE [19-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but so long as price of COF:FE is within 10% of 1:1 then [19-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no point [19-Oct-21 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: although i'm pretty bad about factoring my fuel use at cost and not at opportunity cost :P i like the idea of flying for pennies on the dollar [19-Oct-21 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: makes me feel better about burning 300 SF just to get somewhere a few hours faster [19-Oct-21 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hey however you calibrate your bottom line [19-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: at this point i'm swimming in SF [19-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i just brought a shipload to MOR and half a ship to BEN and still have over 10k here on katoa [19-Oct-21 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Running a ship Proxion to Katoa shortly, 334t/m free at the moment. Looking to depart in ~3hrs. [19-Oct-21 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: @korbin_dallas probably... this CX contest is going to take a lot of resources. [20-Oct-21 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to Ben cx posted on LM [20-Oct-21 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_EDington** joined.* [20-Oct-21 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: is it the one for 2000 cis? i would do it but my rating is not high enough since i am a new player [20-Oct-21 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: man that 1 ration for 10k must be really tasty [20-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i sold a ration for 10k once [20-Oct-21 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Do we have anyone on planet heavy in H to sell? [20-Oct-21 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Just starting to look for a regular supplier outside of CX [20-Oct-21 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: soon i will be producing more than i can use from a nearby gas giant, and will be happy to sell in bulk for cheap to anyone who wants to come pick it up. i'll announce once the base is actually up and running. [20-Oct-21 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i will also be selling even cheaper for folks who are willing to pick up a shipping contract to bring some back for me as well [20-Oct-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Does anybody know a tool where you can calculate production line ratios? [20-Oct-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: look in discord under pinned for rain's calculator [20-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: was somewhere in prun community tools [20-Oct-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @derelict. perfect :) lemme know when you are producing [20-Oct-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Findinavia** joined.* [20-Oct-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm new but into fuel engineering so can consume lots of Hydrogen. I'm happy to handle shipments some since I'm still a small company, but if anyone else wants to handle the shipping in @derelict's scheme, I can certainly try to supply fuel :) [20-Oct-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: @bitrunnr you might be interested in just coming to pick up full shiploads depending on how much you use for fuel. that's my business too, and part of why i need a gas giant on tap -- i can go through two full shiploads a week. [20-Oct-21 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: yeah if my math is right, i could pick up a ship-load every week, hopefully more frequently in the coming weeks [20-Oct-21 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anything for <300t/m Katoa > Benten CX > Etherwind? [20-Oct-21 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Black-Fyre** joined.* [21-Oct-21 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Ship with about 400/400 free space departing Katoa for Benten Station in about an hour, planned arrival within 6 hours of departure. Anyone have anything they want shipped? [21-Oct-21 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have a little something. how do i post a shipping contract? [21-Oct-21 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pharsalita** joined.* [21-Oct-21 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Is somebody here an experienced Victualler and can give me some starter tipps. I'd like to focus on KOM production at some point. [21-Oct-21 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 20 C sell order up [21-Oct-21 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armpit** joined.* [21-Oct-21 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armpit** joined.* [21-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: anyone doing any trips from Moria? [21-Oct-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm looking for specifically HE, my ship is close to needing repair so I want to setup a HWP. [21-Oct-21 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dorsz** joined.* [21-Oct-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: H prices are pretty volatile right now looks like. we may see an increase in fuel prices as a result, although there are lots of fuel makers now, presumably several with their own H sources [21-Oct-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in other news, second shipload of ship parts is en route to yannick; glass ship should be flying away from yannick in ~15h (maybe more like 20, i'll be asleep lol) [21-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Too bad you can't eject cargo from ships to simulate breaking a bottle of WIN on the new ship [21-Oct-21 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 20 C sell order up, hoep someone wants hehe [21-Oct-21 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: can delvier it in 1 day or sooner jsut waiting for a rat delviery to motivate my workers again hehe] [21-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Congrates Derelict! [21-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: *congrats [21-Oct-21 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! i'm excited :) [21-Oct-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: nice! Congrats! [21-Oct-21 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able ot fill my small BSE and MCG buy orders? [21-Oct-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can take them and fulfil in about 6hrs? [21-Oct-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: making a BSE right now [21-Oct-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG is done [21-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yifei** joined.* [22-Oct-21 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 1134 galerite purchase on lm. that's like 2700t, need a STO to even house it. who's stockpiling that amount of fuel-rocks? [22-Oct-21 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: me [22-Oct-21 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: Δ± have 2 STO :D [22-Oct-21 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: hard to make money without logistics [22-Oct-21 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i mean, i have a STO too, i rearranged my base for it because i really needed the space, but 1134 is a lot of GAL to hoard [22-Oct-21 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I charge a nominal weekly fee for renting space in my STO [22-Oct-21 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :P [22-Oct-21 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm running empty freighter to Benten, any takers for freight? [22-Oct-21 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: due to miscalculations i have buy order up for one more BSE hehe @950 , hope someone can fil quickly [22-Oct-21 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [22-Oct-21 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: awesome as always, thanks mate [22-Oct-21 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: Would it be a good idea to settle KW-020c as a food production planet? It's right next to the CX and also in the middle of Etherwind, Proxion, and Nemesis. [22-Oct-21 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: I am sick and tired of the only reasonably-priced coffee being on the other corner of the galaxy. [22-Oct-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: gosh darnit [22-Oct-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ocb84** joined.* [22-Oct-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sigarda** joined.* [22-Oct-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: πŸš€ newest π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand spaceship 𝙨𝙝𝙀𝙧𝙩 𝙧𝙀π™ͺ𝙣𝙙 has departed yannick and enters service for the benten system :) [22-Oct-21 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: πŸ‘ [22-Oct-21 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: πŸŽŠπŸŽ‰πŸ₯³ [22-Oct-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Repposh** joined.* [22-Oct-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: no supply chain issues for benten, haha [22-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xyzzy529** joined.* [23-Oct-21 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Funkdunkulous** joined.* [23-Oct-21 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RandomBaka** joined.* [23-Oct-21 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sigarda** joined.* [23-Oct-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: welcome new katoans! 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[23-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user870a3cae69** left.* [24-Oct-21 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WackyGunner** joined.* [24-Oct-21 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MachineLizard** joined.* [24-Oct-21 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 44 C sell up on LM [24-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***0Simone0** joined.* [24-Oct-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: Could somebody sell me up to 500 SF on LM, please? [24-Oct-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Torgie** joined.* [24-Oct-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: done [24-Oct-21 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: Thanks! [24-Oct-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marinxar** joined.* [25-Oct-21 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Is there a LDE/LSE Producer on Katoa? I want to expand and need some LDE and LSE. Or do i have to fly to moria for prefabs? [25-Oct-21 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [25-Oct-21 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've got some lfabs here. what do you need? [25-Oct-21 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BatFish** joined.* [25-Oct-21 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone need C, I have 44 for sale on LM [25-Oct-21 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: moderate emergency need for some hydrogen, posted in the LM :) [25-Oct-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: many thanks @Fuurin [25-Oct-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fuurin**: no worries [25-Oct-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Could use 1 spare AL, listed on LM for 800 [25-Oct-21 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Thanks Korbin! [25-Oct-21 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: katoan team work ftw [25-Oct-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Also, I'm probably going to stop posting OVE lots on LM since it's kind of expensive and speculative, but I will still have them in stock 90% of the time. Feel free to post OVE buy ads at 50/u and I will fill them [25-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: thanks will remember wyago, i gave up on LM for most stuff for same reason [25-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I couldn't even sell COF there [25-Oct-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Even just the ability to pay for ad spots on the ADM screen or something would be useful to put up prices/offers as text haha [25-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: haha feel like the governor is flexing on you mate [25-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: selling 100 OVE for 5k [25-Oct-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Yeah lmao [25-Oct-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: New price 45/u 😈 [25-Oct-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [25-Oct-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Going Katoa -> Antares Station within 2 hours, approx. 380t/m left, 12/u [25-Oct-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: not a flex [25-Oct-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I use to supply OVE on LM before wyago. If they choose not to keep the order going, I will return to placing my order. [25-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: getting close to fill the full 1,000 area here on katoa [25-Oct-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm short construction materials and have posted for 31 MCG, 4 BSE, 3 BBH [25-Oct-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: appreciated any assistance! [25-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buzz519** joined.* [25-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uzumathi** joined.* [25-Oct-21 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thanks guv [26-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***iBowl125** joined.* [26-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @neke86 What's your price for COF? [26-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 360 [26-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: seems to be moving on the CX at that rate [26-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: normally 375 but it seems other people have all of a sudden decided, after months, to start suppling CI1 with COF. [26-Oct-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EntropicUniverse** joined.* [26-Oct-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: 2 full load cargo from katoa to BEN cx [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Anyone else having delivery problems from an @devron? [26-Oct-21 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Not personally, but they're on discord [26-Oct-21 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes I have Sarantia [26-Oct-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: That is what I was afraid of. He did not pick up my first shipment so I bought another one and he picked that one up as well. Now my whole production line might grind to a halt. [26-Oct-21 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Guess I need to burn a bunch of fuel. [26-Oct-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: What's the result when that happens? You just lose the product? [26-Oct-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Can't make RAT to make money to pay for input to make my other outputs. Also need to keep making RAT for my workers. They get out of line pretty fast. [26-Oct-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sarantia, DM me, I can loan you stuff? [26-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Make sure he doesn't get to keep that A-rating or there will be no way for us to protect ourselves from him :( [26-Oct-21 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CFile** joined.* [26-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: Company founded 13 days ago, but has a rating. I wonder if the user just gave up. [26-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Annoying [26-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: taking rated shipments [26-Oct-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Welp 400 SF is 2h right now. So some people are going to get their shipments quickly... [26-Oct-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i dont have much sarantia but if i cna help out let me know if ytou need anything [26-Oct-21 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Thanks for the support. I have it handled. Just put behind by a few days. At this point more annoyed than anything. Normally posting shipping here is pretty responsive. [26-Oct-21 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I'll give the guy another day before breaching. He has activity and reliability both at "A" he might just have IRL problems. [26-Oct-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I do wish that when a company is liquidated that shipments would be returned to point of origin. [26-Oct-21 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: wow that was a fast shipment from BEN [26-Oct-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: :) Burn fuel, burn. [26-Oct-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: SST lvl 2 Bfabs posted on LM [26-Oct-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1 day is pretty tight timeline! [26-Oct-21 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: dont accept it until you have the product [27-Oct-21 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Natdog942** joined.* [27-Oct-21 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: My Receivables has dropped below 50k for the first time in weeks haha [27-Oct-21 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UmeII** joined.* [27-Oct-21 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gerleib** left.* [27-Oct-21 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doggychews** joined.* [27-Oct-21 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: finally able ot produce my own rat and DW, thats a big hassle off my routine hehe [27-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doggychews** left.* [27-Oct-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Looking to buy 2 LSE at 4700/u, it is up on Benten CX but can also do locally here via LM [27-Oct-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @Haestrom if you post on LM i can fill in ~5h [27-Oct-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Posted, thank you [27-Oct-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: With the election for the next term 1 day away, I want to say a few things. [27-Oct-21 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I want to know what everyone wants after the 2nd level of SST and also ask for your support for the next term. Also, thank you to those who continue support. [27-Oct-21 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: there is information about POPI building on PrUn Discord. https://discord.gg/QbnV6ThD [27-Oct-21 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Im thinking SST will need lvl 3 before anything else but I have been asked if a PAR is in the picture for the future. [27-Oct-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I would also like to know who is growing TEC population. I would like to see advanced populations but from what I see from CoGC voting PIO has been the focus of most people. Seems like people are moving to other planets to grow higher pop. So the real question is would it be worth it to put the carrot before the horse for advance pop and/or keep up with growing demands of PIOneers and SETtlers? [27-Oct-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: also going forward, the biggest thing I look at is if I can provide consumables for buildings. I think it is important to know that if you provide some of the consumables but not all we will still receive part of the benefit. [27-Oct-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Looking for some input from vet players and new players! [27-Oct-21 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Personally my need for TEC on Katoa in a near term has fallen (still would like Katoa to go into higher tiers eventually though), but looking at the POPR, there is growing demand for TEC so putting down one level of PAR soonish seems like a good idea. [27-Oct-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: I can do some processing for the PAR consumables (PFE/SOI) if I can get my hands on the inputs for them. [27-Oct-21 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Hapiness for PIO seems high enough that SST level 2 would probably suffice for atleast a few weeks. 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I'm happy to accept a local market order to repay ~15,000 CIS in about 2.5 weeks from now [27-Oct-21 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @sintheras [27-Oct-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erastol231** joined.* [27-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CryVelibe** joined.* [27-Oct-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TommyD** joined.* [27-Oct-21 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrOak** joined.* [27-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cpt.Cripple** joined.* [27-Oct-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: O_o [27-Oct-21 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Hey Hey - welcome new Katoans! [27-Oct-21 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JIB69420JIB** joined.* [27-Oct-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ragingtonberry** joined.* [27-Oct-21 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShutterEye**: welcome folks [27-Oct-21 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: welcome! 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[28-Oct-21 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and if anyone needs some BEA or NUT let me know i seem ot have a small surplus in production currently [28-Oct-21 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MeguDreadnaught** joined.* [28-Oct-21 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***129828** left.* [28-Oct-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: seems we have a few new companies arriving at the planet, if anyone needs and helkping starting up dont hesitate to ask in here, lots of very helpful people here [28-Oct-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WackyGunner**: Hi, interesting game. If I turn a profit eventually I might stay.... [28-Oct-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: LOL [28-Oct-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm still not sure if I have turned a profit yet but definitely enjoying it myself [28-Oct-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shimy568** left.* [28-Oct-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: is Hydroegen supply reasonably price,d looking at expanding intonext tier production but wil lhave to buy in H [28-Oct-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: its been reasonable enough [28-Oct-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i also import H [28-Oct-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i could look at producing PE or SF [28-Oct-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i'd probably buy PE if i saw it on LM [28-Oct-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: roger, guess i best start plannign my BMP build hehe [28-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i have been trying to have a balanced internal system but sometimes one commodity is out of balance [28-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: so PE would relieve pressure on my C needs =0 [28-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: PE is rarely the best thing to make with a BMP in this market, MCG is almost always more profitable (and right now there's a huge OVE price spike) [28-Oct-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: For reference: ulg.app/building/BMP [28-Oct-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: BMP is a pretty safe investment in general though [28-Oct-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: I got two BMP which have been providing me modest profits. Not bad, not great, just slow. I want to replace them with something else though because I'm getting tired of recalculating every time again which products I want to make and which inputs I want to buy. [28-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: But I don't have a clue what else I want to do on Katoa. [28-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magniloquence** joined.* [28-Oct-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Ah yeah messing with markets and managing my recipe choices is what I like about this type of game, so maybe BMPs are just suited to me haha [28-Oct-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonate** joined.* [28-Oct-21 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Undermancer** joined.* [28-Oct-21 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: Despite not being anywhere near having filled my katoa base, I was able to build another base on prox, for which I've got something resembling a plan, and which seems to be going well. But even after 184 days since I joined this game and settled this planet on a whim, I still have no solid idea what I want to do on Katoa long-term, even though I started my company on this planet. This planet just doesn't seem well suited for anything in particular. Deposits are meh. Fertility is meh. Travel to CX is sometimes very long which requires a lot of planning and reserves if you do all your buys and sells on the CX. I rarely use LM as the prices of buy and sell ads do not make sense to me. [28-Oct-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: yeah the LM is really only for pre-arranged trades, the new players will try to use it then give up and goto the CX seems to be the pattern [28-Oct-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: proble mwith MCG is i would have to buy in all parts as cant produce either part on Katoa, whereas i am already producing C which is used for PE [28-Oct-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Ah yeah PE is probably a decent way to make your C more marketable [28-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: if the prices are sane i'll snap up some orders on the LM [28-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: if its cheaper with round trip fuel to just get it off the LM, for example T_T [28-Oct-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i scout the LM occasionally, but as often as not i'll realize there was some deal on the LM minutes or hours after i already bought at the CX. people seem to only pick up ads which are priced _lower_ than cx (self included, honestly) which makes it pretty bad for sales unless your fuel costs make cx travel unbearable. i've come to mostly ignore it except for prearranged trades as durandal mentioned [28-Oct-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: as for what to do on katoa, you can do a lot of things kind of ok, but the only thing it does really well is fuel, due to local AMM and GAL and cheaper H in BEN. there are lots of nearby-ish resources though, and tbf i feel like a manufacturing CoGC would make it worthwhile to start teching up the planet as a manu hub [28-Oct-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: speaking of, time to cast my vote there [28-Oct-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh the other thing LM is good for is emergencies. if you need a little bit of something you forgot or are short-term running out of, it can be a good way to fill gaps -- you may or may not pay a premium but usually by asking in planet chat for some help and posting an ad, most needs can be temporarily met with an LM purchase [28-Oct-21 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: In Korbin we trust......for now hehe [28-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i was skeptical when danx left, but korbin has proven to be a just and effective governor, so he gets my vote again [28-Oct-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: What happens if a governor gets elected that isn't in your faction? [28-Oct-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: you speak of that which should not be named! [28-Oct-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: :X [28-Oct-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Vermilion Power's (VMLN) Refinery Division employees will be on leave until November 7th for a division-wide performance review. VMLN Collector and Extractor divisions will continue to operator normally as performance has exceeded expectations. [28-Oct-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sdonjr** left.* [28-Oct-21 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Logistics and Marketplace divisions will also be receiving a free vacation due to the temporary Refinery Division shutdown. [28-Oct-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i'm moving my incs and rigs to etherwind. I guess i'll build manufacturing stuff here and switch votes to manufacturing in the coming weeks. [28-Oct-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: CI *is* the superior manufacturing faction after all. [28-Oct-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: et tu, opie [28-Oct-21 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MarquisDeGay** joined.* [28-Oct-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Breach Notice: @devron of the Rum Runners, failed to deliver. Breach has been served but his rating remains C/A/C, so largely ineffective. Recommend setting high requirements of B+ for important shipments. Rum Runners representative I reached out to did not offer compensation. [28-Oct-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: @korbin_dallas I agree that a park should be the next investment. Techs appear to be in short supply on nearby planets and here. [28-Oct-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: @sarantia I was also reading on the discord, that it is easier to grow TEC with a larger population of SET. [28-Oct-21 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Either way the PAR is coming. I need to know who can produce the consumables. I can't promise anyone to be sole producer either.... Does the 1day ads still work for everyone for consumables? [28-Oct-21 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I prefer the 1 day ads because I can just set what I need and forget it. It has to be 1 day too keep it easy for me to manage(book keeping). [28-Oct-21 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Other option would be complicated bidding, other planets have facilitated bidding with spreadsheets. [28-Oct-21 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I think its more of a hassle but am willing to do it if people want to compete for barebone profits. [28-Oct-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Also, more push back from large corps about warehouse fee. Is the warehouse fee will hindering your trade at all? [28-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I have not seen a change in the LM. Most trades there for me are small shorterm trades anyways. [28-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I didnt change the LM fee just increased the fee for WH to 500 [28-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: The corps are saying im limiting trade by increasing the WH fee but I dont think it affects most companies [28-Oct-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: if it only burdens the corps, I dont mind. The already trade with a huge advantage. [28-Oct-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: They* [28-Oct-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: The problem with the park is the BRM. Everything else is easy to source. [28-Oct-21 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: CoGC ads up [28-Oct-21 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: if we provide everything except the BRM we will still get a benefit. I will ask if someone knows what % we lose without BRM [28-Oct-21 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @Korbin - Nox [KAWA] has settled a planet for BRM. Provided a source of CLI, we should be able to secure at least initial SOI inputs for the building... [28-Oct-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: @docWatz is there a timeline or are we talking next week? [28-Oct-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I saw we have some new players. I would like to take a moment and explain the governor position. The governor builds and maintains government buildings with tax revenue. [28-Oct-21 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: missing SOI as a consumable causes -20% [28-Oct-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: BRM is also required for the PFE. [28-Oct-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Probalby another 20%... [28-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: re: WAR fee. if a difference of 400 CIS per warehouse per week is an issue for you, you shouldn't have a warehouse. i could have 20 warehouses at that cost and _barely feel it_ on a weekly basis. if you actually need 20 warehouses and 10k/wk is make-or-break for your business, your business is already broken. tell the corps to stuff it. [28-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anybody sees this and wants SIO on Katoa. I can bring a batch rather than take it to the CX. DM me to discuss quantities and price if SIO is your thing. I also have a significant amount of LST I don't need posted up on the Benten CX, happy to discuss that as well. [28-Oct-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Similarly for COF, CAF, H2O and maybe OVE, DW [28-Oct-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: //end [29-Oct-21 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able / wantto buy my 32 C on LM, i need the funds hehe [29-Oct-21 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Some C is always good to have :D [29-Oct-21 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone need something shipped BEN > KAT ? [29-Oct-21 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mercator_Radek** joined.* [29-Oct-21 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrystalCat** left.* [29-Oct-21 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pharsalita** left.* [29-Oct-21 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadoLeopard1378** joined.* [29-Oct-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OlenPorvari** joined.* [29-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: what are the weird Lm offers, 1 item for huge money? [29-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: corp fund transfers? [29-Oct-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I think those are old donation listings for the Ementior expansion [29-Oct-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Urist** left.* [29-Oct-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh ok [29-Oct-21 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ougaran_tek** left.* [29-Oct-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: maybe someone will donate someday lol. [29-Oct-21 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Bought one of the little ones, still need to scale up from my four buildings so money is expensive for me haha [29-Oct-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: yes most of my growth potential is going towards POPI maintenance. [29-Oct-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Black-Fyre** left.* [29-Oct-21 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i threw a little juice at it frosty. after all, one of my ships is named after you, i might as well contribute to your arclight efforts :) [29-Oct-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Thanks! Purchased a BMF for the ADM at 16k. [29-Oct-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beezlyy** joined.* [29-Oct-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xeserox** left.* [29-Oct-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Daemeus donated 50k to Arclight project BMF ordered at 16k and 2 BWS purchased at 13k [29-Oct-21 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Golden rations are for donations to the Arclight project and will be used to purchase BWS components(13k each) [29-Oct-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Sintheras donated 105k, combined with other donations previously listed, I was able to purchase the electronic components for the ADM on Ementior. 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[30-Oct-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: slight miscalculation os i need ot raise 2000 today to pay a contract so if anyone wants 2000 wrth of RAT, DW or H2O please let me know and we can work out a deal [30-Oct-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or if anyone cna buy my 24 C sell roder that would also solve my mess up haha [30-Oct-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spike71m** left.* [30-Oct-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lol korbin I said this as soon as you posted it [30-Oct-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: someone could make 29 but no guarantee someone else wasnt making it faster [30-Oct-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: should post them in batches :) [30-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: np [30-Oct-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tariq_antopol** left.* [30-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: got your C order @karr1981 [30-Oct-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: new BDE ads posted [30-Oct-21 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GlowingSole** left.* [30-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5d20c7a88e** left.* [31-Oct-21 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hookar** left.* [31-Oct-21 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from BEN cx to katoa on katoa LM [31-Oct-21 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YonderStars86** left.* [31-Oct-21 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klauz** left.* [31-Oct-21 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CallPopJmp** left.* [31-Oct-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: COGC voting almost over, it's neck and neck between pioneers and manufacturing [31-Oct-21 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OMadison** joined.* [31-Oct-21 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: So Close, all we need is 1 new player to vote Manufacturing [31-Oct-21 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: paste ^ into CMD and click vote, ty [31-Oct-21 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: COGCPD p-UV-351a pn-ADVERTISING_MANUFACTURING [31-Oct-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dorsz** left.* [31-Oct-21 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: That is a slightly partial push... :) [31-Oct-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: considering H prices I don't know if more Manufacturing is a good thing. [31-Oct-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: COGCPEX UV-351a [31-Oct-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Brings you to the voting page [31-Oct-21 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CowsRTasty** left.* [31-Oct-21 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WackyGunner**: regarding COGC, if the manufacturing people needs our Carbs? Then Im inclined to boost that sector... [31-Oct-21 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user230bed1efd** left.* [31-Oct-21 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WackyGunner**: oh voting is PRO only :( [31-Oct-21 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: What do H prices have to do with manufacturing? [31-Oct-21 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: would anyone be interestedin buying and paying up front for a C order of say 200 units deliverable within 20 days (hopefully sooner) if paid for in advance at a reduced price per unit, say 200p/u? [31-Oct-21 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if os please pm me and we can arrange [31-Oct-21 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: PE is more expensive due to H prices increasing. [31-Oct-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: PE hasn't been a good manu recipe for the 50 days I've played [31-Oct-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: In fact BMP has literally never been more profitable than it is now [31-Oct-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: In the time I've had my analyzer [31-Oct-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadowspeaker** left.* [31-Oct-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***paulloal** left.* [31-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac4b88ce35** left.* [31-Oct-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: looks like a bunch of folks switched vote to resource extraction a couple hours ago [31-Oct-21 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it's currently winning, 5k votes to 4840 votes over manufacturing. pio is now third with only 2k votes [31-Oct-21 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: :) [31-Oct-21 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: with deflation gotta farm that MM [31-Oct-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i don't really have a dog in the race unless there was a serious push for fuel [31-Oct-21 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in fact pio or resource is prob best for me after fuel, but i think manu is good for the future of katoa [31-Oct-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I farm ADR on Katoa and I will eventually do SDR [31-Oct-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: auto docs and surgical drones? that's a pretty complex chain [31-Oct-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Im a little bias towards Manu :D I want to see some specialization from the planet. I would even support fuel if I was approached correctly [31-Oct-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think manu has a broader range of opportunities. if we went fuel it'd make for too many fuel producers in an already saturated market. as people broaden production chains, i think there are more manu recipes to give people opportunities [31-Oct-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I would personally benefit from Manu the most, I also dont mind if people vote for what is best for themselves. [31-Oct-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I support that :) [31-Oct-21 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I dont have anything against PIO except I think it will hold some back form teching up [31-Oct-21 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think it will hold the planet back from teching up, and i'd like to see there be somewhere focused on and specializing in manufacturing [31-Oct-21 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: manu is the broadest specialization anyway -- 7 buildings, most with a lot of varied recipes [31-Oct-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I think if we keep pushing for it it will happen [31-Oct-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you could run several different types of business out of a BMP alone. i should know, i do both plastics and clothes out of just 2 bmp on 2 different planets [31-Oct-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: did the vote close already? it was really close earlier [31-Oct-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: yea, it was close [31-Oct-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: its PIO [31-Oct-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah looks like manu has pulled ahead [31-Oct-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: wait, what? [31-Oct-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I just voted :D [31-Oct-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: current is PIO [31-Oct-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: my vote screen shows manu with 9k votes [31-Oct-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that vote page is always screwy it seems [31-Oct-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: for me it shows manu 8952, resource 5567 and pio with just 2502 [31-Oct-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: that is correct [31-Oct-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: but all the PIO people have not voted yet [31-Oct-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh i see [31-Oct-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it closed 8h ago [31-Oct-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: the Manu people seem very dedicated to the voting cause [31-Oct-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i never pay close attention to the cycle duration [31-Oct-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think manu has a real shot now [31-Oct-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: just need more awareness why choosing Manu matters [31-Oct-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I doubt it, at this point. I am going to be pulling out most of my settlers soon for other planets. [31-Oct-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i know at least one major employer has shifted to manu in the last couple days [31-Oct-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: maybe working towards getting everyone on katoa with a BMP [31-Oct-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: not sure if it was before or after this vote though [31-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: BMP cost is less than 12k [31-Oct-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: which is why the roi is so good. i wish people would stop using roi as the be-all-end-all measure for worthwhile endeavors. i mean a bmp is a solid choice [31-Oct-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but roi can be misleading [31-Oct-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: would you rather have a 45day roi on a 1mil project, or a 15day roi on a 12k project? [31-Oct-21 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: 15D $12k everytime [31-Oct-21 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lolol [31-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I dont like my corp pricing... [31-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I pray for profits.... they barely let me fed my pop [31-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll take the one that makes 20+k/d over the one that makes ~850/d thx [31-Oct-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: my corp has a flex able corp price but idk if it will last [31-Oct-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: my inputs are becoming way more stable [31-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah idk about corp pricing, still haven't done much for corp deals. i mean i've never joined one but i've also never really set up lasting business arrangements with any either [31-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: it's just as you said. all deals shoot to be 25d roi [31-Oct-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: POPI ads up [31-Oct-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: good luck! [31-Oct-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I'm guessing that the pattern will continue. If manufacturing is winning, most of the smaller votes will shift to PIO and there is always a last minute wave of votes. [31-Oct-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: ^^ [31-Oct-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Especially when people remind them to vote... [31-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: well we want people to vote [31-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I think the voting system does a good job for CoGC [31-Oct-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Eh, like I said I'm not expecting much here. Most of my population will be shifting to PIO anyways. [01-Nov-21 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Running a half empty freighter to BEN CX in about 2 hours, will monitor for shipping [01-Nov-21 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ambericius** left.* [01-Nov-21 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [01-Nov-21 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fakedy** joined.* [01-Nov-21 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Merrow** left.* [01-Nov-21 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeltou** joined.* [01-Nov-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kersis** joined.* [01-Nov-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoaHVW9** left.* [01-Nov-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***regzwe** left.* [01-Nov-21 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheAstrobotanist** joined.* [01-Nov-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mlemosf** left.* [01-Nov-21 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Riabuz31** joined.* [01-Nov-21 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceKorben** joined.* [01-Nov-21 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_boiiiiii** left.* [01-Nov-21 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carnas** joined.* [01-Nov-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zultor** joined.* [01-Nov-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Welcome new Katoans!! [01-Nov-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @korbin_dallas - looks like you have competition in the name from @SpaceKorben :) [01-Nov-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: fuelfromdinasours.... I like em already [02-Nov-21 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: H prices are crazy. at this point i should stop making fuel and just sell H [02-Nov-21 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Yeah.. I have been getting by with the NAB SF process but that won't last long. But if everybody now goes to supply H, soon it won't be worth much again, so I'll have to wait it out I guess. 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CX is fresh out [02-Nov-21 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: nvm yesplease had it covered :) highway robbery, but you pay for speed [02-Nov-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Shipping BEN > KAT if anyone has stuff [02-Nov-21 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: UH [02-Nov-21 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: oh wait no [02-Nov-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not today? [02-Nov-21 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i have stuff going the other way [02-Nov-21 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: that needs going the other way [02-Nov-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I service that also :) [02-Nov-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: KAT <> BEN <> EW in constant flight [02-Nov-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so long as you set it to 3 days, I'll take it [02-Nov-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: okay [02-Nov-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: actually i'll just move it mysefl [02-Nov-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay well [02-Nov-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: leaving Benten shortly [02-Nov-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Update on locally available goods: OVE at 45/u, MCG at 24/u, and COT at 1100/u. Naturally stock is limited, but I will fill as more are created. Higher buy orders will be filled first, because I have to manually simulate being an exchange haha [02-Nov-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: And if it seems like someone is buying to resell I'll warn/ask for clarification before cutting off supply [02-Nov-21 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COT buy is up [02-Nov-21 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Filled [02-Nov-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mjewkes** joined.* [02-Nov-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Looks like Resource extraction's going to lose, might as well vote Pioneers lol. [02-Nov-21 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: I'm here for the manufacturing :D [02-Nov-21 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: Literally set my CM down when I saw it might swing that way [02-Nov-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KenFair** joined.* [02-Nov-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Surprised to see resource extraction [02-Nov-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: welcome mjewkes. happy to have another manu vote [02-Nov-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Nice, I checked and BMP employs the most PIOs per CIS, so my next construction series will give me the most votes per time possible haha [02-Nov-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Though at the moment manu is actually outvoting even every other program combined [02-Nov-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It keeps swinging late and there are a few big names recently added to extraction [02-Nov-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Small shipping order up from Benten station to Kat. [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I always start extraction, but I'll swing to pioneers to guarantee at least some boost [03-Nov-21 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from kat to ben cx on lm [03-Nov-21 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got it [03-Nov-21 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (it hasn't filled) [03-Nov-21 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: manu folks tend to vote early so the vote looks solid for manu for a few days and then seems to swing to pio towards the end. although idk manu votes seem to be increasing [03-Nov-21 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and if people stay split on resource vs pio then manufacturing could take it [03-Nov-21 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nathanluvnigro** left.* [03-Nov-21 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stoneybaloney** joined.* [03-Nov-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: Pioneers is not a likely long term choice [03-Nov-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: As folks grow, bases specialize, and this planet is the obvious regional manu center [03-Nov-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: If it isn't this week, it'll be one of the next weeks for manu. [03-Nov-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: Folks running other things here should probably start retooling [03-Nov-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: Thankfully, deconstructing buildings in PrUn is very efficient [03-Nov-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: preaching to the choir. although i'll probably still make fuel here for some time; the availability of GAL and AMM locally and abundant H nearby makes it worthwhile for that task as well, and i don't see a planet going with fuel cogc any time soon [03-Nov-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: /me stops singing to be preached at by derelict [03-Nov-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but my spare space will probably all be BMPs soon [03-Nov-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol no mjewkes is preaching. i'm the choir [03-Nov-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: /me takes derelicts top chair [03-Nov-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: I am planning to fill up the unused space with manu as well now, don't feel comfortable giving up SF on here completely but some manu won't hurt if people keep voting for that [03-Nov-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Yeah IMO refining is the strongest relative advantage, the problem is just that that is an inherently limited industry. And the only other advangate we have is CI manu bonus and proximity to CX so that's all we have haha [03-Nov-21 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: Wyago - agreed. REF would make way more sense if FF wasn't HE3 constrained. [03-Nov-21 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: HE3 supply sets the FF price, not REF efficiency. [03-Nov-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from Ben cx to Katoa on katoa lm [03-Nov-21 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I could supply much more HE3 than I do, but that would wreck the price. [03-Nov-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wreck, or improve :) [03-Nov-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: HE3 has high set up costs. The last time I looked the bid price was about 150. Just checking now, it might be worthwhile ramping up a little after all. [03-Nov-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: a 2nd producer might wreck the price more than increasing your production to meet more need. [03-Nov-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: There are a lot more producers than just me. I expect the CX contest has increased the demand and I am one of only a couple of independent producers. [03-Nov-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: without the corporates dumping excess product on the market, there is a shartage. [03-Nov-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I could be persuaded to sell some of my HE3 stock on Kat for the right price. I don't have a ship in port to take it to the CX [03-Nov-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I dont run a refinery [03-Nov-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I just dumped most of my FF on the CX a couple of hours ago. [03-Nov-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I have maybe 100 FF I could part with if you are interested? [03-Nov-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I have a ship with dry tanks due in from beyond Antares in just under a day. [03-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: shipping contract up for 1000 CIS from Benten to Kat [03-Nov-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Grabbed it, will be on Katoa soon :) [03-Nov-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: building BHP on Ementior if people want to book them :) [03-Nov-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Whats the unit price? [03-Nov-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: 2000/unit -the captial costs to make them are high [03-Nov-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Takes about 4.5 SME to run one HWP [03-Nov-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh yeah I know! [03-Nov-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I've also made some LHP [03-Nov-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***phoenixfire3** joined.* [03-Nov-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: what's the price on LHP? i'm going to need those too soon [03-Nov-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and you can sign me up for 10 BHP immediately -- DSV Frostwood's at like 81% again [03-Nov-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: been running my ships ragged recently [03-Nov-21 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: LHP is cheaper as it doesn't need STL [03-Nov-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: 1700/LHP I got four on the way and 2 BHP [03-Nov-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I've got another 4 made back on Ementior. [03-Nov-21 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: orders are up. [03-Nov-21 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i grabbed BHP and 8 LHP. BHP is needed sooner, but no real rush on any of it. thanks! [04-Nov-21 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone would like RAT, OVE, PWO, REP, COF, H2O or SIO please drop me a DM to discuss availability and pricing. [04-Nov-21 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to sell me 300 FTL on LM? [04-Nov-21 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: actually all sorted [04-Nov-21 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 24 C sell order up @6000 , best price on LM [04-Nov-21 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: in stock for immediate delivery [04-Nov-21 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***matek100** joined.* [04-Nov-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkf1oof** joined.* [04-Nov-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: another 24 C up for sale if anyone needs, only 6000 [04-Nov-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KenFair** left.* [04-Nov-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rezzattack** joined.* [04-Nov-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able ot fill my BSE and BBH buy orders? [04-Nov-21 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spwa117** joined.* [04-Nov-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: also im still open ot negotiating a large C sell at reduced price, i can easily fill 300 - 400 units in 20 days if someone is wiling to pay in advance, andi would deliver earlier if possible, dm me to discuss price [04-Nov-21 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: I can't fill those orders in the time available. the soonest I'd be able to fill them would be... maybe 4 days from now. [04-Nov-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: no worries, Ill keep relisting until im sorted so never know :-) my ships are off on shipment missions so wont be at BEN for a while to just buy there hehe [04-Nov-21 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Makaipo** joined.* [04-Nov-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Thanks frost [04-Nov-21 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: welcome! [04-Nov-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ph0sph0rus** joined.* [04-Nov-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: As promised Arclight naming contest is here! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/arclight-planet-naming-contest-hm-049b-round-1/3936 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/arclight-planet-naming-contest-hm-049b-round-1/3936 Arclight planet naming contest-HM-049b(round 1) Part of the CX contest’s rewards is 3 planet names and two system names. Due to the number of corporations and players competing, I’ve taken a list of planet and system names submitted by Arclight project members. These planets and system names will be voted on by players to choose a appropriate name. poll Due to the numbers of submissions f... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [04-Nov-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: If you've contributed to the Arclight project and want to submit a name for the remaining planets. [04-Nov-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Geidi Prime [04-Nov-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: system name or planet? [04-Nov-21 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: planet [05-Nov-21 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bindaebindae** joined.* [05-Nov-21 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Potatoo** joined.* [05-Nov-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hobbles1822** joined.* [05-Nov-21 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Looks like Pioneers win again... unless.... [05-Nov-21 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Wow just 700 off this time [05-Nov-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Thank you for re-election! [05-Nov-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kahimey** joined.* [05-Nov-21 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: I'm honestly tempted to bribe someone to change their vote. [05-Nov-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 48 C sell order up, only 11000 [05-Nov-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mjewkes**: snagged it [05-Nov-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DangerousLilly** joined.* [05-Nov-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frostwood** deleted this message.* [05-Nov-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm bribable for my vote. 20k to the Arclight project and I'm your man on Manufacturing. [05-Nov-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: want to buy a bulk of BDE for a better than market price. anyone interested, quote me for 32 BDE in DM [05-Nov-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i will pick a supplier in the next 24h or less. inventory on hand is a factor, but for the right price i'm willing to wait [06-Nov-21 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from kat to ben cx on kat lm [06-Nov-21 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fuurin** left.* [06-Nov-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone want to fund my C expansion? i will presell C with as 20 day delivery at below market rate if you pay now to fund the expansion [06-Nov-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Dm me ot discuss price [06-Nov-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Just-In-Case** joined.* [06-Nov-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yennikc** joined.* [06-Nov-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: If any pro-manu people have spare BDE, my LM order will give another 100 PIO to the vote [06-Nov-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wyago** deleted this message.* [06-Nov-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: (just 2 BDE) [06-Nov-21 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Still need it wyago? I can help on the cheap [06-Nov-21 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I filled it. [06-Nov-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Jalvan lefrt [06-Nov-21 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: It isn't even people switching from more specific things to PIO program haha, PIO votes just come in late [07-Nov-21 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so few votes it'd only take like 2-3 big ones to flip to push it straight back to manu [07-Nov-21 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: still a few hours to go! [07-Nov-21 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheLostChicken** joined.* [07-Nov-21 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gonzzz** joined.* [07-Nov-21 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***brightsauce** joined.* [07-Nov-21 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Well, unless there are some last minute changes, it looks like bribery won. [07-Nov-21 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Let's see if we can turn this into a major win. [07-Nov-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I am going to try to get some BMP inputs supplied here on Katoa LM. I am looking for LST, SIO, PG, PE. If by chance you know someone who swings by here with these products on these ship. Ask them if the can place an ad on Katoa LM before going to CX. [07-Nov-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Other products worth looking for is RCO and locally made COT. [07-Nov-21 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I will also be needed OFF for consumables if you know a EPO producer. Many Governors will be looking for OFF and SUN. (I bought too much SUN last time) [07-Nov-21 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Also, want to keep everyone up-to-date on PAR. We are sourcing materials for construction. Feel free to contact me if you produce HAB/SOI. I think the ETA is still a few weeks out on this one as far as I know. [07-Nov-21 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: If anyone runs unfilled ships from Prox to Kat, Please contact me for LST shipping possibilities! [07-Nov-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: less than 1k race on CoGC vote with less than 20 mins to go [07-Nov-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Congratz Katoa! [07-Nov-21 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: Oh, wow, it happened! [07-Nov-21 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ShutterEye**: i still haven't figured out the ratio for the my newly added BMP and now this happened... [07-Nov-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: I was already having a hard time feeding my WPLs haha, the COT shall flow [07-Nov-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JumboFumblers** joined.* [07-Nov-21 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: CoGC consumables posted [07-Nov-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: A point of order. Should we change the taxing now so that manufacturing is taking up more of the burden? [07-Nov-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: As a sole manufacturer I think that would be reasonable, COGC is a significant boost to profits so we should be able to easily afford a tax boost [07-Nov-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from kat to ben cx on katoa lm [07-Nov-21 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes to Manu taxation [07-Nov-21 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korbin_Dallas** deleted this message.* [07-Nov-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: If it sticks for a 2nd week I will raise Manu tax with the assumption we keep the specialization going. [07-Nov-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: This will also help push the growth of higher tier populations. [07-Nov-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if anyone wants to come pick up a shipload of H at a decent price from CB-282d, dm me. also if you don't want a full shipload you can come get any amount and i'll fill the rest of your return trip with a shipping contract. contact me for details; this will be a recurring offer. [07-Nov-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xyleia** joined.* [07-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone fancies a 2k CIS shipping contract for PROX>KAT I have posted one on the Proxion LM: LMA UV-796b/29975 [07-Nov-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orthac** joined.* [07-Nov-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's to bring LST to market [07-Nov-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ruhtrano** joined.* [08-Nov-21 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: Oof, I didnt complete the CoGC order yesterday and fed all my RAT to the CoGC. If someone can get one of the RAT orders ASAP. I am currently foodless. [08-Nov-21 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll fill one of the CoGC ads to ensure you're pop are fed! [08-Nov-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: After being afk for a week, trying to get my refinery back up and running. I just posted a buy ad for DW that I could urgently use [08-Nov-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Many thanks :) [08-Nov-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: welcome back, filledit for you so yo ucna get going quickly [08-Nov-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: ❀️ [08-Nov-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i elp wher ican, still getting settled back in after being away for over a year hehe [08-Nov-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: help [08-Nov-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buying 1 BTA @1000 if anyone has a spare one [08-Nov-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [08-Nov-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: np [08-Nov-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [08-Nov-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wow [08-Nov-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COMG just captured my browser thumbprint logon [08-Nov-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: Oof [08-Nov-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **wyago**: The autofocuses on chat fields have always seemed pretty sketchy [08-Nov-21 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's never happened before now it wont stop [08-Nov-21 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (havent reset browser yet) [08-Nov-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: yeah, safari was auto completing the chat as the password field [08-Nov-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: app only seems to function in chrome [08-Nov-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epicsquid** joined.* [09-Nov-21 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: NL, COT, and COF on the LM [09-Nov-21 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm also bringing a significant amount of H2O planetside, but it's cumbersome to list it, so please put up buys above 18/u and I'll fill what I can [09-Nov-21 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: in about 36h will bring a full ship of SIO as well [09-Nov-21 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Which I have listed now [09-Nov-21 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doclouiss** joined.* [09-Nov-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone selling any PWO? [09-Nov-21 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Buy order placed for anyone who is [09-Nov-21 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i've got a somewhat empty ship heading for BEN if anyone wants to throw up some shipping orders [09-Nov-21 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: will depart later today [09-Nov-21 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: katoa -> ben [09-Nov-21 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @durandal - I'll take some of that space - 3 ads up for ~5 cis/t shipping :) [09-Nov-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: thanks @DocWatz grabbed them [09-Nov-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: How much space is left? [09-Nov-21 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: about 250 on space and weight [09-Nov-21 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: hope that last one doesn't overfill you... [09-Nov-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: nope, all good, deparing now [09-Nov-21 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: departing* [09-Nov-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 200C sell order up at great rate if buyer can pay now to fund expansion, delivery within 20 days (prob close to 15) [09-Nov-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wismerhill** joined.* [09-Nov-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: okay... some of these buy ads are nonsense... [09-Nov-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: 18 BBH for 13.5k? I'd be lucky to buy the required FE for that much alone... [09-Nov-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chezenator** joined.* [09-Nov-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Most of those are private deals [09-Nov-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I had COF on this LM @ 340-350 unit for 48 hours and no takers, do people on Katoa not use it? Should I just be flying this stuff elsewhere? [09-Nov-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've now taken it to the CX where it routinely gets eaten up around 370-400 [09-Nov-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't understand [09-Nov-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @neke86 - I dunno why you don't find takers for your COF sales....very few buildings wouldn't benefit from the COF at that price! [09-Nov-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: Neke's Dark Roast is great! Get yours today! Or I guess in a week since you missed your chance [09-Nov-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We had zero on the market for weeks and weeks, now we've over 900 units but only myself trying to get it to the pioneering masses at approaching fair prices [09-Nov-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OMadison** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheAstrobotanist** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeltou** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceKorben** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wake** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beezlyy** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Riabuz31** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fakedy** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: errr [09-Nov-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OlenPorvari** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mercator_Radek** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadoLeopard1378** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I changed my mind mid-build and need 4 LSE, have put an LM ad up at 4k per unit if anyone has stock! [09-Nov-21 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [09-Nov-21 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Scrapping my single-use SME, so loose LST, FLX, and FEO up on the LM too [09-Nov-21 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @durandal please also take my FEO and FLX hahaha [09-Nov-21 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: np ^_^ [09-Nov-21 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the Peregrine Warehouse & Logistics team thanks you [09-Nov-21 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh shit, I have a ton of O as well [09-Nov-21 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I [09-Nov-21 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will list at MM [10-Nov-21 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: @neke86 I don't even use the LM any more because all sell ads I ever see is either 1cent corp deals or bad prices. I just go to CX for all my buying and selling. [10-Nov-21 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: But now that you mention it, I should look into buying COF more regularly. xD [10-Nov-21 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Froesus** left.* [10-Nov-21 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah the LM is often rife with shit low ball asks, but lots of decent transacting takes place there [10-Nov-21 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hoping my sub-MM Oxygen gets taken, save me carting it up to the CX [10-Nov-21 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Poim123** joined.* [10-Nov-21 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: last chance for someone to take up my cheap 200 C sell order [10-Nov-21 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carnas** left.* [10-Nov-21 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ifi dropped the unit price to 200 each would anyone be interested? [10-Nov-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: H buy up for fast delivery..110/u [10-Nov-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: cxl rate [10-Nov-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: thanks [10-Nov-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: any deliveries to BEN needed? I have 400m3 and 250t free [10-Nov-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Posted a few adverts [10-Nov-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: i posted a few [10-Nov-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: grabbed what I can, thanks [10-Nov-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Blick** left.* [10-Nov-21 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luxnir** joined.* [10-Nov-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wingot** joined.* [11-Nov-21 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***k0001c98** left.* [11-Nov-21 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: I got 300t left from BEN to Katoa if anyone has some things to ship [11-Nov-21 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [11-Nov-21 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravenstorm12** joined.* [11-Nov-21 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maraluk** joined.* [11-Nov-21 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i really wish there was a start package for shippers [11-Nov-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: We already start with two massive ships we can't yet build, that's kinda already a shipping package [11-Nov-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Would ship building be an extension of the manufacturing starter package? [11-Nov-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: shipbuilding is pretty much the top of the production tree, and requires materials from pretty much very industry. [11-Nov-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: very -> every [11-Nov-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kersis** left.* [11-Nov-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***phoenixfire3** left.* [11-Nov-21 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Versalius** joined.* [11-Nov-21 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa on katoa lm [12-Nov-21 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***matek100** left.* [12-Nov-21 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** deleted this message.* [12-Nov-21 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @UberGrunk πŸ™ [12-Nov-21 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: no problem :) [12-Nov-21 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkf1oof** left.* [12-Nov-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seph** joined.* [12-Nov-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Miracle4you7** joined.* [12-Nov-21 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rezzattack** left.* [12-Nov-21 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfe77562317** left.* [12-Nov-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Makaipo** left.* [12-Nov-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HungryWolf1** joined.* [12-Nov-21 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Welcome new Katoans! [12-Nov-21 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Greetings :) [12-Nov-21 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bindaebindae** left.* [13-Nov-21 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stoneybaloney** left.* [13-Nov-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SlowSloth08** joined.* [13-Nov-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: come on out to CB-282d and pick up a full ship of H! 37500 CIS buys 500 H, you just come pick it up! want less? no problem! dm me and we'll set something up. i offer shipping contracts to fill any remaining cargo space to help offset your H purchase cost. feel free to grab an offer on LM CB-282d, contact me directly, or fly on out and we'll figure something out [13-Nov-21 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lazmatazz** joined.* [13-Nov-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm definitely interested, but struggling to get my production back on track after being afk for a vacation. I'll let you know once I'm in a better spot :) [13-Nov-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: prices may fluctuate slightly but it's pretty much a standing offer and is always going to be a better deal than the CX, usually by a lot [13-Nov-21 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adi1915** joined.* [13-Nov-21 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: 2 full load cargos from katoa one to ben cx one to mor cx on katoa lm [13-Nov-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DangerousLilly** left.* [13-Nov-21 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***derelict.** deleted this message.* [13-Nov-21 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 4 jumps to as much H as you can carry LM CB-282d -- contact me for alternate arrangements including partial orders and shipping contracts [13-Nov-21 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Hmmm, still much more expensive than my current supplier. [13-Nov-21 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Though he is 13 jumps away. [13-Nov-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sounds like you're getting an exceptional deal then! my offer's open, check the LM any time [13-Nov-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: or dm me and tell me what price would make you switch suppliers :) can't promise to meet it but i'm open to at least a little negotiation, esp for a returning customer. i plan to scale production up further, but not until there are some buyers :) [13-Nov-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I have a bad habit of not paying attention and running out of H. I keep a small amount of NAB on hand for such occasions. [13-Nov-21 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: 14 jumps means a round trip of about a week so knowing you are there, I will keep you in mind for my future brain lapses. 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[14-Nov-21 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hopefully someone can help you out, but i run a deficit of DW so to sell any to you means i'd be paying more at cx to replenish than i charged you for your emergency fix [14-Nov-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: no that's fair to call out [14-Nov-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i'll leave it for now and put in a CX order as well [14-Nov-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you're _also_ strapped for cash, make sure to mention that too, it helps with the generosity :) [14-Nov-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: oh yeah i am def strapped for cash lol [14-Nov-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll grab you this time since i actually have a bit to spare, but just for future reference :) [14-Nov-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: but no worries if you can't meet the order and thanks for the advice [14-Nov-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: oh thanks man :) [14-Nov-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hobbe** left.* [14-Nov-21 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMurderUnicorn** joined.* [15-Nov-21 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JessyMcrae** joined.* [15-Nov-21 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xyleia** left.* [15-Nov-21 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheLostChicken** left.* [15-Nov-21 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Barramiin** joined.* [15-Nov-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brigell_Twisted** left.* [15-Nov-21 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: anyone willing to sell 5 BDE on LM? dm me with a price. they're hella expensive on the cx right now -- for that price i'll just make them myself, but i'd rather have them _now_ so quote me and i'll see what we can do [15-Nov-21 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***brightsauce** left.* [15-Nov-21 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I have 2 i could sell, would accept what i paid for them, so 2500 for both if interested [15-Nov-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brigell_Twisted** joined.* [15-Nov-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Hello new Katoans :) [15-Nov-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 2 ads up for 2 BDE @ 2500 (1250/u), i'll take 'em if you got 'em [15-Nov-21 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok ive sold my 2 to one of thel istings [15-Nov-21 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: this is going to set up 2 pp3s on deimos btw, so there are rfabs coming soon [15-Nov-21 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well the bde is specifically going to a new SME and accompanying HB1, but it's all part of the same upgrade :) [15-Nov-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JumboFumblers** left.* [15-Nov-21 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***javiefall** joined.* [15-Nov-21 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Just-In-Case** left.* [15-Nov-21 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: So I still have a lot to learn so bear with me... Is TS totally not worth messing with? It's used to make SI and HE3 which both appear to be cheaper and/or same for price of TS. [15-Nov-21 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Ohh...is a natural resource [15-Nov-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: For SI, personally I think the 3xSIO+AL is a better recipe. For HE3 it might be worth it if you setup a base on a planet with high TS concentration. [15-Nov-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: depends on the price of FF [15-Nov-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: you need about 16/unit price for FF to make TS worthwhile. 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[16-Nov-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone for shipping KAT > BEN? I have 250tm3 spare [16-Nov-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epicsquid** left.* [16-Nov-21 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pav** joined.* [16-Nov-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [16-Nov-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cya_nerds** joined.* [16-Nov-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wulfhram** joined.* [17-Nov-21 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [17-Nov-21 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doclouiss** left.* [17-Nov-21 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tatiana** joined.* [17-Nov-21 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fishbowl** joined.* [17-Nov-21 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yeala** joined.* [17-Nov-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: welcome all :) [17-Nov-21 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Welcome new Katoans! [17-Nov-21 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wismerhill** left.* [17-Nov-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: at what % should you be repairing buildings etc? [17-Nov-21 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If there's anyone on Katoa who would like to make a fair offer on 15k PE (or thereabouts) deliverable with 24 hours, please DM me. [17-Nov-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Charps** joined.* [17-Nov-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i heard 80% [17-Nov-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: dont recall why [17-Nov-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i heard 90% [17-Nov-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: after it falls from 90% the building degrades rapidly. [17-Nov-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @karr1981 - I mostly see 80-ish days as the target. That puts your right around 90-91% efficiency for the building [17-Nov-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: If you don't mind external tools, the fio.fnar.net site, when you have the FIO chrome extension, has the ability to let you look at your buildings with a filter by that %-age. I've used it with 91% threshhold to identify the buildings (and put together a shopping list) for repairs [17-Nov-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks guys [18-Nov-21 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: what about ships [18-Nov-21 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ships have no effect from damage until 80%, but then you start having increased flight times, not sure exactly how it degrades [18-Nov-21 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i just repair my ships when they hit 80% [18-Nov-21 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 10 BHP [18-Nov-21 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalcifer** joined.* [18-Nov-21 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Poim123** left.* [18-Nov-21 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YakuzaDiscoMan** joined.* [18-Nov-21 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Don't go below it, it burns a lot of fuel [18-Nov-21 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: CoGC ads placed [18-Nov-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: @Korbin_Dallas Are you going to update the taxes yet, to reflect the CoCG bonus? [18-Nov-21 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: LM is poppin today [18-Nov-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Got some FTL posted at a slight discount from ask at CX [18-Nov-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: ~16% discount :) [18-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: ran out of H20, posted an on ad well above market rate if anyone can help [18-Nov-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [18-Nov-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: Thanks Neke! [19-Nov-21 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luckyyasso** joined.* [19-Nov-21 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to vallis on katoa lm [19-Nov-21 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so i need like 82 BDE, if someone wants to unload a stockpile get in touch [19-Nov-21 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: PE has exited the chat. [19-Nov-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: Any update on progress towards a PAR? [19-Nov-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9d96deaddd** left.* [19-Nov-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: I got 280t/m3 capacity left from Katoa to Antares Station if anyone is interested for delivery in 2 days. [19-Nov-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5e18da26f9** left.* [19-Nov-21 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tonk555** joined.* [19-Nov-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: dang BEN completely dry for N. surprising since we have an N planet in system [19-Nov-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: guess it's time to fly a bunch of AEF and INS out there [19-Nov-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also i still need like 70 BDE and 85-ish BBH, if anyone wants to offload in bulk [19-Nov-21 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @derelict - there are several of us out there already, but consumption has been picking up from what I can tell - both through increased demand for NS and for the N that goes into the electronics chains [19-Nov-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well as soon as i can buy/produce the needed INS, you'll have a new neighbor [19-Nov-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: If you have a ship in system - I'd be willing to put up an order for a haul from the GG [19-Nov-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i want both the N and the AMM [19-Nov-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: gotcha [19-Nov-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and i have a glass ship i can waste my massive stores of SF on cruising it back and forth [19-Nov-21 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it was always the plan to settle ben-d, but i got umbra retooled first and need N to kickstart it. none on market so sadface me [19-Nov-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Versalius** left.* [20-Nov-21 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naithin** joined.* [20-Nov-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seph** left.* [20-Nov-21 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM CB-282d two more batches of H up for grabs, come and get 'em! [20-Nov-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone like some lucrative MOR > BEN/KAT shipping? [20-Nov-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 52tm3 to bring back [20-Nov-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i will have 2 ships in vallis in a day or so, maybe you can utilise those @neke86? [20-Nov-21 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: derelict got me covered thank you though [20-Nov-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np [20-Nov-21 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Any fuel producer mind fulfilling my LM order. My other order has apparently fallen though. Probably yet another person who quit after posting stuff. [21-Nov-21 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armataan** joined.* [21-Nov-21 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shaddadingus** joined.* [21-Nov-21 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Yeah, it looks like Shell company is no longer active, going to breach after extending contract with them [21-Nov-21 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ffs i was waiting for a sf order t obe filled by them also [21-Nov-21 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thank god it wasnt a huge order, ill absorb the loss ggrr [21-Nov-21 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and I can confirm to my custoemrs this wil not impact any of their orders :-) [21-Nov-21 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone able to sell me like 20 RAT and 20 DW just to get me through the next two days until my FP gets done making my own, please? [21-Nov-21 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I have plenty of NUT to trade if that helps? I dont know much about this game yet. [21-Nov-21 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have sent to a message - I will sell you your DW and RAT. [21-Nov-21 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: sp. you not to [21-Nov-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daikamar** joined.* [21-Nov-21 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***valamiuniverse** joined.* [21-Nov-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so i will soon be settling ben-d (UV-351d) and think it needs a name. folks have mentioned that 'katoa' is likely a reference to the maori word meaning 'whole' or 'complete', i think 'tongi' or 'tongi matu' works for ben-d -- it's the maori translation of 'fertilizer' or 'chemical fertilizer'. with a gas giant full of nitrogen an ammonia, i figure it fits.. [21-Nov-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i also want to name the gas giant CB-282d 'zeppelin', for reasons that should be obvious [21-Nov-21 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: +1 zeppelin [21-Nov-21 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Agree with Zeppelin. As far as UV-351d....you may have some stiff competition for the name. We've semi-settled on "Bendy" :) [21-Nov-21 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: why bendy? [21-Nov-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Bendy = "Ben-D" [21-Nov-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: :facepalm: [21-Nov-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol ok [21-Nov-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i like tongi better, but i'm a go-with-the-flow kinda guy so i guess bendy it is [21-Nov-21 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: gonna take forever to get the INS unless i'm willing to sacrifice my first born child to the highway robbers out at MOR [21-Nov-21 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if someone feels like selling, say, 1500 INS at a rate that won't make me involuntarily vomit upon hearing it, pls dm me [21-Nov-21 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if i can get some more AR i'll just make it myself; that's the plan going forward for repairs and such. but it's going to take like 3-4 weeks to make everything i need myself lol [21-Nov-21 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Ementior has got cheap INS coming. [21-Nov-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: For the Arclight project. [21-Nov-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: idk that i'll ever be at commercial production scale, but i should at least be able to make enough for my own repairs plus future expansions as soon as some darn techs show up on umbra lol [21-Nov-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: this time tomorrow i should have a few more. i mean, the one(!) i have is feeling pretty lonely. [21-Nov-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I believe the first PP3's for INS went down last POPI [21-Nov-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: HM-301g [22-Nov-21 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wingot** left.* [22-Nov-21 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: don't buy INS from Moria peddlers, it's subpar [22-Nov-21 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***athus** left.* [22-Nov-21 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: is upgrading HQ something i should be focusig on? are the benefits worth it? [22-Nov-21 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: You need to for extra base permits. [22-Nov-21 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh ok ty [22-Nov-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @karr1981 Not trying to tell you to RTFM but just sharing if you haven't seen it https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/headquarters/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/headquarters/ Headquarters :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [22-Nov-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: :) [22-Nov-21 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: /me dreams of the day he can fill an order for 10k SF [22-Nov-21 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: heheh thanks butrunner iwll take a look, ytesi should have looked there first [22-Nov-21 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: but id much rather talk to you guys :-) [22-Nov-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: seems i cna hold off nor now as no plans for 3 bases yet and wont upgrade to 5 for other benefits any time soon [22-Nov-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: no worries! I like chatting with folks in here too. just wanted to make sure you had that doc handy :) [22-Nov-21 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Is FF going back to normal? [22-Nov-21 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Kinda looks like it [22-Nov-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: was there ever even a shortage or did everyone just decide simultaneously for obscene prices [22-Nov-21 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Not sure how true it is, but I read in global chat last week that it was due to a large influx of new players [22-Nov-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: any burst of new player makes a run on SF and soon after/during FF [22-Nov-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: early on you saw it with fabs too [22-Nov-21 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: new players don't tend to create a run on FF -- from what i could tell it was a combination of very high H prices and lack of HE3 availability. the few suppliers who have both those supplies locked in kept producing but a lot of smaller producers didn't -- at multiple points we were down to just a couple folks with any ff listings at all [22-Nov-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: so a good time ot get into producing H? [22-Nov-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm not sure. Its required for refining both FF and SF which means there will always be a demand. But its also a natural resource so the barrier to acquisition is relatively low. [22-Nov-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: /shrug [22-Nov-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: any idea what the nearst good H planet is to benten?Umbra has but not huge amount [22-Nov-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: yea but its easy to get it [22-Nov-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: relatively [22-Nov-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: refine a little SF locally and just bounce around as orbits arent terrible [22-Nov-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: couple of Prefab buy orders up, BSE and BDE [22-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: cb-282d [22-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: if you have money to buy insufoam [22-Nov-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [22-Nov-21 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you have connections to buy insufoam -- INS seems pretty darn scarce these days [22-Nov-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: ^ this [22-Nov-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I make some INS on Gibson but due to low techs pop I got long cycles [22-Nov-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: sounds like a business opportunity? [22-Nov-21 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to fill my 2 BDE order? [22-Nov-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [22-Nov-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceHam** joined.* [22-Nov-21 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [22-Nov-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I'm on Benten right now. Anyone need anything shipped back to Katoa? [22-Nov-21 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ad up for 40 C [22-Nov-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdbe26525f0** left.* [22-Nov-21 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HiHi123** joined.* [22-Nov-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa on katoa lm [23-Nov-21 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Still looking for more shipments from Benten Station to Katoa if anyone doesn't want to make the trip. [23-Nov-21 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: looks like someone needs a glass ship :p [23-Nov-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***javiefall** left.* [23-Nov-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrostSTeeL** joined.* [23-Nov-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Last call... Benten CX to Katoa. Coming back tomorrow morning. [23-Nov-21 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SerenitysLove** joined.* [24-Nov-21 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to Ben cx on lm [24-Nov-21 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c80d560e4** left.* [24-Nov-21 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delta_003265** left.* [24-Nov-21 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaieck** joined.* [24-Nov-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: @derelict what do you want to colonise with INS? [24-Nov-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ben-d [24-Nov-21 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I got a base there you can just buy from me :D [24-Nov-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrustN00ne** joined.* [24-Nov-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I guess that's a no [24-Nov-21 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I am bringing some INS to Katoa, thought you'd be interested [24-Nov-21 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: definitely interested, sorry i'm in and out -- should be here more consistently in 3-4h for a bit [24-Nov-21 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: in INS or in buying stuff from ben-d? :) [24-Nov-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in INS to build on BEN-d -- if you've got a bunch of INS out there i can fly out and buy it when i come to set up shop, but i need a bunch of it still. ramping up production out on deimos, but it'll be a bit until i can make all my own. plus AR is ridiculously expensive rn [24-Nov-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: Does anoyone know what the orbital periods are in this system? [24-Nov-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: not offhand. a really super-duper rough estimate based on observation puts it at something like katoa: 30d, BEN: 45d, umbra: 60d but that's very ballpark, actual values could vary quite a bit. katoa seems to be close to 30d though and the others are slower [24-Nov-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: thanks. [24-Nov-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: will see how much I am left with need to queue some rep. I'm struggling with AR also but ships are more of an issue than the price for me [24-Nov-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cya_nerds** left.* [24-Nov-21 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wulfhram** left.* [25-Nov-21 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: due to supply chain worker shortages, my katoans are in dire need of caffeination. buying 20 COF on LM, pls help keep my workforce awake [25-Nov-21 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! katoan pioneers rejoice! [25-Nov-21 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Done - Less accidents cause of sleeping workers on the production belts. [25-Nov-21 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the line bosses were practically screaming for my head. they get really nervous when the breakroom gets down the last box of k-cups [25-Nov-21 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Yeah my happiest workers are the ones at the big COF Production machines. [25-Nov-21 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Is anybody going from katoa to umbra? small cargo posted on Umbra LM [25-Nov-21 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Telio** joined.* [25-Nov-21 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murixo** joined.* [25-Nov-21 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from Ben cx to katoa on katoa lm. [25-Nov-21 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OfficerBurge** deleted this message.* [25-Nov-21 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OfficerBurge**: Could anyone sell me 46 MCG please <3 [25-Nov-21 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Sure, just put up an order and i will fullfill it [25-Nov-21 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Archon6006** joined.* [25-Nov-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: @derelict will land on Kat with approx 476 INS if you're interested price is 120/u after that will dust off [25-Nov-21 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: What’s the deal with FE.CI1 ? So much supply. Is that normal? [25-Nov-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: FE is cheap and hard to transport, usually only few bother since it is too heavy [25-Nov-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Ah I see [25-Nov-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: thx [25-Nov-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: it piled up on cx cause probably nobody is buying it :D [25-Nov-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Haha hence my lowball ask price πŸ˜‚ [25-Nov-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: 63 FE will fill a ship so it's pretty bad investment to move it around specially for sellers [25-Nov-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: @Aldin yes i'm interested, throw up an lm ad or if you're sure its 476 i'll put one up at 120/u [25-Nov-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonisym** joined.* [25-Nov-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Vote Karr1981 For Governor [25-Nov-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehehe jk, but noone going to run against Korbin to keep him honest? [25-Nov-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh is it voting time? [25-Nov-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: another satisfied korbin voter. hey @Korbin_Dallas -- are we gonna push for eng here eventually? [25-Nov-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karhuttaja** joined.* [25-Nov-21 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jetran** joined.* [25-Nov-21 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flich** joined.* [25-Nov-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DistantSaber** joined.* [25-Nov-21 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enchanted_Star** joined.* [25-Nov-21 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DistantSaber** left.* [25-Nov-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i have a handful of rfabs available on katoa if anyone's in need. making more back on deimos, but it's slow going. contract builds welcome, just lmk what you need. [25-Nov-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InterplanetaryWhisky** joined.* [26-Nov-21 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Itsyaboi** joined.* [26-Nov-21 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YakuzaDiscoMan** left.* [26-Nov-21 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: How good are ammonia extractors on Katoa? [26-Nov-21 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: are the global volumes too low to make it worthwhile? [26-Nov-21 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: thanks in advance [26-Nov-21 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Charps** left.* [26-Nov-21 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Personally I think collecting ammonia here can be worth it if you can use it here as well (as part of making SF for example). But it is not something you can make much profit off of by itself, AMM is pretty easy to come by around here for cheap. [26-Nov-21 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: or rather is the efficinecy of extractors in Katoa high enough to make it worhwhile? [26-Nov-21 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: o see [26-Nov-21 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: ! [26-Nov-21 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: Thanks Haestrom [26-Nov-21 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: just started as a fuel maker in Katoa and wondering what's best for me to branch out for my next production building [26-Nov-21 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: It is cheaper to get it here if you need it, but unless you use a lot of it, you are better off just buying it off the CX as it is not much more expensive there. [26-Nov-21 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: If you are making fuel here, I think it makes sense to collect both AMM and GAL here as well, then you only need to care about sourcing hydrogen [26-Nov-21 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: cool man [26-Nov-21 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: thanks for helping a newbie [26-Nov-21 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Once you are playing for a while it might make sense to settle a gas giant for better AMM production, but you are far off that [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: great idea. [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: what did you start out as [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: /? [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Same as you, refinery for making SF [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Still running that here, but expanded onto other planets to do other things as well [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: nice [26-Nov-21 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: that'll be fun [26-Nov-21 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: when I can do that [26-Nov-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: The game is quite slow at the start and it is hard to say when you will be ready to settle another planet, honestly just keep looking around at what would interest you [26-Nov-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: You have plenty of time, no need to stress about it [26-Nov-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Ad up for some 'emergency' DW @ 40 each if anyone has some to spare [26-Nov-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: cool! sorry wasn't asking for "when" I can do it, but rather was saying it'll be fun "when I can do that" [26-Nov-21 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: thanks for actually responding to that though [26-Nov-21 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: No problem, a lot of people are happy to help new players. Just keep it mind that the game can be a bit slow at the start, but once you start expanding, there is much more to do. [26-Nov-21 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Thanks @Haestrom! [26-Nov-21 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: np, will need to do grocery run for other things for myself so I'll just pick up more DW :) [26-Nov-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taggerung** joined.* [26-Nov-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taggerung** left.* [26-Nov-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProjectHydra** joined.* [26-Nov-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jetran**: Hello! [26-Nov-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ProjectHydra**: Ghello Comrades [26-Nov-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Hi all, hows everyone doing tonight? [26-Nov-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jetran**: pretty good, How about you? [26-Nov-21 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: @derelict check dm's for a proposal. [26-Nov-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm picking up some AR at 250/unit from HM-301g, but I'm looking for investors to make it more worthwhile. [26-Nov-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'll be picking up 30 units myself. [26-Nov-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'll probably be asking 10-20/AR pickup fee, but that's much better then the 500/AR/unit on market right now. [26-Nov-21 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashburne** joined.* [26-Nov-21 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: couple more shiploads of H available -- LM CB-282d -- come get 'em! [26-Nov-21 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you don't want a whole shipload, dm me and i can make you a special offer [26-Nov-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm probably a few weeks out from being able to actually help so i'll watch for the next ping out :) [26-Nov-21 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i usually have 2-3 shiploads available per week, and that will increase as soon as i make enough INS to expand [26-Nov-21 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ATechnicalFowl** joined.* [26-Nov-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fishbowl** left.* [27-Nov-21 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yeala** left.* [27-Nov-21 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spoingo** joined.* [27-Nov-21 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luckyyasso** left.* [27-Nov-21 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lumby** joined.* [27-Nov-21 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone need anything sent to Benten CX before I leave? [27-Nov-21 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: checking [27-Nov-21 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: nope, markets stil fubar =0 [27-Nov-21 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadow_prime** joined.* [27-Nov-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spo0n** joined.* [27-Nov-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tumaria_Steelsmith** joined.* [27-Nov-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wobas28** joined.* [27-Nov-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Pretty close vote for COGC, manufacturing just by a hair right now [27-Nov-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: specializing is much more impactful, pioneer bonus is just a plain waste of 15% to run rainbox industries but it's of course more new player friendly [27-Nov-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: If anyone wants REP before I ship it off let me know [27-Nov-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: we've transitioned to manu cogc but it's still just by a hair -- could swing back to pio any time if folks don't keep up the manu vote [27-Nov-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also LM CB-282d πŸ‘€ [27-Nov-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ^ come get some H [27-Nov-21 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: yes i need rep [27-Nov-21 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: 450/u on LM if you want :) [27-Nov-21 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceNPNANA** joined.* [27-Nov-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rubert** joined.* [27-Nov-21 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user644f11214c** left.* [28-Nov-21 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***emdee** joined.* [28-Nov-21 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: special Ementior price of 100/unit INS now on Ementior. [28-Nov-21 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: far far away [28-Nov-21 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gunhouse** joined.* [28-Nov-21 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: stopgap COT request up on LM, 5 @ 1100/u [28-Nov-21 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: $$ [28-Nov-21 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah when i need something in a hurry because of bad planning i always pay the stupidity tax [28-Nov-21 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thx aldin [28-Nov-21 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: yw [28-Nov-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: At Benten CX back to Katoa if anyone needs anything to come back. [28-Nov-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i want my youth to come back [28-Nov-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: can you deliver that [28-Nov-21 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: T_T [28-Nov-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: those pesky pioneers won the cogc vote [28-Nov-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: dammit [28-Nov-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: think those are the peasants [28-Nov-21 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: the intergalactic version of them :) [28-Nov-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: They won by a pretty good margin this time too. Not as close as the past couple of times. [28-Nov-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: muahaha [28-Nov-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Yeah no more COF for these peasants! [28-Nov-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: wasn't watching to be honest as I don't really care much but the manuf boost was rly nice [28-Nov-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [28-Nov-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: still plenty of H available LM CB-282d [28-Nov-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also some LST up on LM locally [28-Nov-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FWIW I'm advertising large or full loads of H2O on the Etherwind LM (KW-688c) [28-Nov-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: open to negotiation [28-Nov-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: dude [28-Nov-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: who just bought 44k SF in BEN? [28-Nov-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: like... what do you even do with that much? [28-Nov-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's like 6 ships/warehouses [28-Nov-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: .... [28-Nov-21 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: stockpiling at ementior? [28-Nov-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: lol be happy for sale [28-Nov-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: to be honest I have no idea lol [28-Nov-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: could be someone trading to another exchange [28-Nov-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: SF is at 11 at Montem, so it sounds like a Ben to Mon shipment. [28-Nov-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in 6 shiploads? [28-Nov-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: can only fit 8333 in a ship (trust me on this one) and they bought 44k [28-Nov-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: hmm wonder how they stored it. [28-Nov-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i mean maybe a coordinated effort by a group -- i'm not complaining, just find it tough to wrap my head around -- very unusual activity [28-Nov-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: maybe they just bought a bunch of warehouses [28-Nov-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: or rented storage units on the cx [28-Nov-21 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cignos** joined.* [28-Nov-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delushon** joined.* [28-Nov-21 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM CB-282d -- still got those shiploads of H available. if you'd rather make a quick 10k just hauling it back to BEN or Katoa, i'll set up a shipping ad instead. dm for details [29-Nov-21 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shaddadingus** left.* [29-Nov-21 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armataan** left.* [29-Nov-21 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: dm sent [29-Nov-21 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thib662** joined.* [29-Nov-21 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Ad up for 100 RAT at 45 (CX buy price) if anyone get help some hungry PIOs and SETs out... [29-Nov-21 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Thanks @UberGrunk! [29-Nov-21 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: No problem! :) [29-Nov-21 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VVhatever** joined.* [29-Nov-21 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: Does anyone have a spare BSE that they could sell me? I bought one to few on the CX... I have an ad for 1.1k up on Katoa LM [29-Nov-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Korbin_Dallas**: I plan to keep all fees the same for the next term. Due to the failed Manufacturing CoGC vote, I will not be be raising the fee on Manufacturing. I hope we can work towards getting a PAR before the end of my next term. [29-Nov-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berengar** joined.* [29-Nov-21 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berengar** left.* [29-Nov-21 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if anyone's got a half dozen TRU lying around, i'd be much obliged. ad on lm :) [29-Nov-21 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: I have a ship about to head to BEN CX if anyone needs something shipped there [29-Nov-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***valamiuniverse** left.* [29-Nov-21 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Ementior ADM established. [29-Nov-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: congrats, governor! [29-Nov-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well, probably-governor -- i don't think anyone will run against you lol [29-Nov-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: congrats!! [29-Nov-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: we'll see, maybe someone else wants the job. [29-Nov-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Drastic Manufacturing is buying up any COF I list cheaply and then re-listing it at 375. I don't care if this continues, as I get paid, but if any of you fine folk wish to circumvent that noise and purchase COF in the 320-350 range either leave your bids on the CX for me to sell into, or DM me and we can arrange via the LM. [29-Nov-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NucleoWafflez** joined.* [29-Nov-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: thanks neke I just might [30-Nov-21 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scarecrow_** left.* [30-Nov-21 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scarecrow_** joined.* [30-Nov-21 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone want to donate 2 BSE's 3 BBH's and 1 BDE to me so I can make a PP1? :) I'll give you the same amount plus one extra of your choosing of the three back in trade :) [30-Nov-21 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: put up a order, it'll take about a day to make it. [30-Nov-21 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: I can fill it right now :) [30-Nov-21 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: posted some shipping ads from BEN to Katoa if anyone is flying today [30-Nov-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Im there right now and have some room but I'm waiting to see if someone fills my trades before bidding bottom dollar. [30-Nov-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nachitzu** joined.* [30-Nov-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: also, posted a buy ad for 6 TRU above CX ask price if anyone can deliver quickly [30-Nov-21 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: :thumbs_up: [30-Nov-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FizzyMartin** joined.* [30-Nov-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: For those not in the forums yet, I recommend checking out @Frostwood's awesome description of Katoa https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/planetary-descriptions-fun-katoa-theory-crafting/3969/8?u=bitrunnr {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/planetary-descriptions-fun-katoa-theory-crafting/3969/8?u=bitrunnr Planetary Descriptions fun(Katoa theory crafting) Well then… Benten System Benten is a G class star, like our sun, so one would expect it to behave like the Solar system. The micrometeoroid density is really low, so there is not a lot of astroids in this system. Katoa Katoa sits at exactly 1 AU from the sun like Earth. The Gravity is lower then Earth’s gravity, but the atmospheric pre... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/tKJ8nKggYpr0jRhd8XfrrWpFnnaf8_TbPJsD9bCbHo4/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e575e8524d24707531c4cf0edc9931321c6c35cb.png [30-Nov-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: woah woah woah..we discussed this "With the quantities of Ammonia in the atmosphere, Katoa would have a lot of life-it would be just foul smelling and toxic to humans." [30-Nov-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: The OTHER plants smell. Its katoa thats good [30-Nov-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: I reject his olfactory assumptions! [30-Nov-21 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: LOL [30-Nov-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: I think he's saying that the life on katoa would be foul smelling and toxic, but your point stands. [30-Nov-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Oxygen is significantly denser than Ammonia, and there is a higher concentration of Oxygen on Katoa [30-Nov-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: So his "shell" statement to me would suggest the Ammonia would be so high we wouldn't smell it [30-Nov-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Honestly not sure how smell penetrates lol [30-Nov-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I have collectors and refineries running non-stop. I wonder if they would release smell at ground level. [30-Nov-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: One might wonder how we have so much ammonia in the air, considering ammoina generally comes one way or another from decomposing organic matter. [30-Nov-21 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: Possibly something like a dense world-wide forest, with a insect or ground bacteria that can break down stuff at some crazy speed. [30-Nov-21 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or the first colonisation attempt.. [30-Nov-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: the oxygen would oxidize the nitrogen to nitrous compounds wouldn't it [30-Nov-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: /me frantically googling [30-Nov-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: well nothing really makes sense in this game [30-Nov-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: any world that is fertile would have life on it, and therefore should be earthlike enough that all elements could be found on it [30-Nov-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: and any earth-sized rocky planet is probably going to have most elements on it even if it isn't fertile [30-Nov-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I guess in my mind, I rationalized the worlds only have a few resources to mine being due to some universal rule/law that says you can only mine resources when there is an amount above a given level [30-Nov-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I think there are still holes in that for sure [30-Nov-21 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: But yeah, I tend to agree with the source of AMM being due to some combination of colonisation+natural environment. [30-Nov-21 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I meant previous failed colonizers [30-Nov-21 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: all those coliq accounts, breaking down [30-Nov-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Oh I see, I thought maybe you meant the colonisation attempts before players joined (i.e. at creation of game universe) [30-Nov-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Interesting point though :) [30-Nov-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berengar** joined.* [30-Nov-21 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well i guess i know who bought 44k SF lol. takes a lot of warehouses to put up a 63k unit fuel ask [30-Nov-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 8, to be exact :P [30-Nov-21 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: bold move, and a smart one for a huge seller like hyperion. by washing away all the abandoned asks from folks no longer in the fuel game, they effectively reset the SF price up to the 9s [30-Nov-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it'll drop again, but meanwhile they get to enjoy a ~30% markup on the stuff they bought and their own product for sale [30-Nov-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: how'd you figure out who the buyer was? [30-Nov-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: volume [30-Nov-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: someone bought 44k, and now someone who usually sells 12-18k is selling 63k [30-Nov-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: oh i see now [30-Nov-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: prob cost them ~350k, and they'll prob make ~50+k on just the stuff they bought, not to mention increasing the overall price for future sales of their own product [30-Nov-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: huh cool. definitely an interesting move [30-Nov-21 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nobody wants me cheap spicy HER on the LM [30-Nov-21 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do I need to fly them somewhere reeeeeeally [30-Nov-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sisso**: Katoa citizen! After 6 months playing I slowly lose interest of the game and I am leaving. With an Equity of 600k, more that I expected and a prove you don't need any skill to play this game. I wish all the good and luck for all of you fellow independent citzens, and just good, no luck, for those that belong to the evil corporations. Thank you all. [30-Nov-21 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @sisso o/ glad you hear you were so successful in the game, gives one hope. Thanks for the well wishes and perhaps we'll see you again after the game's GA :) [30-Nov-21 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sad to hear it Sisso! [30-Nov-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: One of my fave customers [30-Nov-21 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: evil corporations lol [30-Nov-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap MCG and PE on the LM [30-Nov-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and PG.. [30-Nov-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: later sisso! i will miss your vehement opposition to evil corporate machinations [30-Nov-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: well in qwne everyone's doing his own thing and have better trading prices than cx so I have no idea what a evil corporate machination is :D [30-Nov-21 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Bless sisso but they never listened to that reason :P [30-Nov-21 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: more of an amusing character quirk on sisso's part. it can be fun to rail against our evil corporate overlords every once in a while, even if they're imaginary :) [30-Nov-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceHam** left.* [30-Nov-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: Ill fight the evil corpo's on your behalf sisso [30-Nov-21 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: SST's almost out of water [30-Nov-21 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM CB-282d -- still got one shipload of H for sale, and another available tomorrow [30-Nov-21 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol judging by cx pricing, now might be a good time to come get some H out at CB-282d. if you don't want a whole ship worth, dm me and i can make you a deal :) [30-Nov-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm. [01-Dec-21 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** joined.* [01-Dec-21 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: OVE buy order up if anyone can fill [01-Dec-21 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: I really need 16 BSE and 60 MCG [01-Dec-21 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rasd** joined.* [01-Dec-21 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: How do i get permission to post orders outside the brokers price band? [01-Dec-21 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: bro I really need it or i am gonna fail [01-Dec-21 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: i alr know how [01-Dec-21 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: nvm [01-Dec-21 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: good luck [01-Dec-21 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sisso** left.* [01-Dec-21 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tacogamer20** joined.* [01-Dec-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: cross posting from global: Does anyone work with Luna Hull Co (@delosdharriman)? They're active afaik but I am unable to reach them about a bad contract. [01-Dec-21 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: what happened? Just curious. can't help [01-Dec-21 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Using mobile, I typo'd a buy order for 30H for 30,000 CIS instead of 3,000 :( [01-Dec-21 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Delos promptly accepted it [01-Dec-21 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: :( [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: ouchhhhhhhh [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: sorry to hear that man [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: happens to the best of us. [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: easily done [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaieck**: hopefully he'll act forthrightly. [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Agreed, that's what I'm hoping. [01-Dec-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: My DMs to him are getting long haha [01-Dec-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: worst case scenario let it breach, don't try to pay the full bill. or suggest they could buy a DW from you for 27k, then you can pay the 30k [01-Dec-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep that [01-Dec-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it's clearly a mistake and if they're not going to be understanding, just take the hit to rep, most folks will understand, it's not like you'd be blacklisted or anything [01-Dec-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: currently trying to do that, no answer on chat after 3 days and they've extended the contract once [01-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: might try to find them on discord [01-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i think its easy to miss DMs via APEX if you don't read the notifications carefully [01-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: couldn't find on discord unfortunately [01-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: some folks just don't use the in-game chats at all [01-Dec-21 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hmm. could also be a language barrier i guess [01-Dec-21 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think all you can do is let the clock run out -- they can extend as long as they want but eventually it'll breach [01-Dec-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if someone's trying to capitalize on an obvious typo, i wouldn't feel too bad about just letting the contract go [01-Dec-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Would the breaches continue to lower my company rating? [01-Dec-21 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it'll only be one breach and it takes 10 successful contracts to repair the damage. i think the 10 start counting for any contracts closed after the offending one, so you can minimize any effect by taking and fulfilling some contracts in the meantime [01-Dec-21 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i had a case of accidental piracy where a contract expired before i could deliver, and i had accepted so many contracts in the meantime that my rep didn't even drop from an A with the breach [01-Dec-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Awesome that's good to know. Thank you [01-Dec-21 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SakulAt** joined.* [01-Dec-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fube431** joined.* [01-Dec-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MattyAlin** joined.* [01-Dec-21 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aibwa** joined.* [01-Dec-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IloveCats** joined.* [01-Dec-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: @derelict. I am not smart enough to flip the SF up to 9. The move is too risky for me since who knows how quickly the SF price goes back down. [01-Dec-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Better to just send the SF to MOR or ANT and sell it for 11+ without that risk [01-Dec-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so you didn't buy 44k SF and the 63k SF is all just your own inventory? [01-Dec-21 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: yes, when the 44k SF sold I actually sold out on BEN. Someone bought 14k SF from me that time. [01-Dec-21 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i mean, i know i'm not the biggest sf producer but it'd take me like 3 weeks or more to build up that kind of inventory [01-Dec-21 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: damn, that's crazy [01-Dec-21 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I am producing 26k SF / day atm [01-Dec-21 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: damn, that's also crazy [01-Dec-21 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's like... 5x my production, maybe more [01-Dec-21 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: but, yeah, having the price up at 9 is an incentive to put my SF on BEN instead of having it shipped to MOR [01-Dec-21 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that;s what, like a whole ship of hydrogen every day? [01-Dec-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: or more? [01-Dec-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: 786 H / day. So about 1.6 shipments [01-Dec-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: crazy [01-Dec-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: it's fun :D [01-Dec-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well thanks for clearing that up, i was sure it was a power move [01-Dec-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662513110598549517/900372096541151262/unknown.png {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662513110598549517/900372096541151262/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/662513110598549517/900372096541151262/unknown.png?ex=6814c5db&is=6813745b&hm=3e157c7572984ec79a87e84510a68d75ebad72d41770cf17fe18e8d514ea74e7& [01-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol [01-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: that was with 4 Experts and without using KOM [01-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: up to 5 experts now? [01-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: yes [01-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's a huge boost [01-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: and KOM since today :D [01-Dec-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well, i'll always make enough SF to not have to buy it, but i've been diversifying pretty heavily so i doubt i'll be scaling up my production much more [01-Dec-21 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: My SF production isn't a one-man thing either. Collaborate a lot with @Gravy on it [01-Dec-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i think to really dominate any market takes some teamwork, even simple chains benefit from having multiple folks specialize on it [01-Dec-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: congrats though, that's a huge production volume [01-Dec-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: + we have people doing the shipping [01-Dec-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: thanks :) I think designing the logistics around such a base and implementing it is the fun part of the game [01-Dec-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah, managing all the shipping must be tough. but with enough volume and storage, you can smooth out the wrinkles when someone stops being available or misses a deadline [01-Dec-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: for sure :) [01-Dec-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Yeah, 3 STO for QoL. [01-Dec-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm enjoying seeing how robust and diversified i can make a big company held together with duct tape and bailing wire ;) [01-Dec-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: every week i'm one week away from catastrophe, saved only by my unlikely ability to make things barely work out [01-Dec-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: usually involving some extra flights burning way too much fuel [01-Dec-21 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I think diversification is still important. Going all-in on SF is risky. I wouldn't have been able to compete before the NAB SF recipe nerf. [01-Dec-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i just like the idea of making a bunch of different stuff and selling off weird excess parts and inputs as well as a broad range of products. RAT? i sell those. rfabs? i sell those too. [01-Dec-21 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i was really worried about the NAB recipe [01-Dec-21 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but it all seemed to work out [01-Dec-21 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Oh, nice. Although I found R-fabs difficult to sell, but maybe it's better now? Trying to be self-sufficient? [01-Dec-21 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: kind of, i figure it's an expanding market as more people start utilizing higher tier workers [01-Dec-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i have a few on the market but they're priced really high, intentionally. if they sell great, if not, i'll pull them down when i need them to build something. it's slow going right now because i'm only half staffed on techs on deimos [01-Dec-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: People start investing in education, so maybe there will be a good market once there are sufficient engineers and scientist populations. [01-Dec-21 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: more just an example of i sell stuff across the spectrum of goods. i also sell raw resources, fuel, overalls, plastics, chemicals, etc etc [01-Dec-21 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and yeah, i think as folks push towards more scientists it will mean more of the higher end fabs as folks try to build engineer pops [01-Dec-21 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Nice. I think selling H from CB-282D will be a pretty good pillar as well. [01-Dec-21 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah it's a good standby [01-Dec-21 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: But H is always at risk of dropping down to MM... [01-Dec-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: even if it does, i'm not too concerned -- i mostly settled for my own uses making sf/ff and chem stuff [01-Dec-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i figure if i can sell some excess to pay for the base and my own h usage, then great :) [01-Dec-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Yeah, fuel production has such a high H usage, relying on the CX to provide enough for cheap is a bit risky if it occasionally spikes towards 200 / H [01-Dec-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Also, maybe R-prefabs will be popular once the HQs require them [01-Dec-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i managed to break into fuel production as sf was hitting bottom because i invested heavily in col on umbra, so i haven't bought h from the market for a long time. i ended up coming out to CB-282d because i wanted to refit umbra with fewer COL and more POL ;) [01-Dec-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: nice :D [01-Dec-21 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: next goal is to start building up manufacturing on katoa with PPF/SCA and maybe MCA just for laughs, then go heavy on electronics and engineers on proxion with CLR/ELP/DRS/SE [01-Dec-21 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but again i have to offload most of the stuff i do in those places to do it :) [01-Dec-21 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I find high-end stuff a bit risky, but if you do DRS you could use the MM [01-Dec-21 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yep, the moneymakers are the drone and software mms [01-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: do those while they last, and use the money to figure out what's next. or just waste it all producing stuff and putting it on the cx to encourage others to try riskier stuff [01-Dec-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's been my endgame goal for most of the time i've played -- get to the point where i have enough income i can run a full base or two at a total loss just making mid-tier parts to throw at the cx at reasonable prices, even knowing there's no market for it [01-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: live up to my company name and become a galactic junk shop ;) [01-Dec-21 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Lol, nice. Yeah, having enough money to make some non-profitable bases to produce random higher tier stuff does also sound fun to me. Next base is up on Proxion, to make use of that educated pop xD [01-Dec-21 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yep, the more techs and engineers we can employ, the faster the scientists come [02-Dec-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fadill** joined.* [02-Dec-21 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panner** joined.* [02-Dec-21 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xXNullValueXx** joined.* [02-Dec-21 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nekrothane** joined.* [02-Dec-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alexander.Verbeek**: woot! got my fourth manufacturing expert! [02-Dec-21 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: gratz! [02-Dec-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nekrothane** left.* [02-Dec-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: yeah! [02-Dec-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nekrothane** joined.* [02-Dec-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i upped my bid to 150/u for 1000 INS at CX, in case anyone's selling [02-Dec-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: happy to buy over LM at that price if you are. well, not happy per se, but i'll pay you :P [02-Dec-21 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: I got my INS order filled at Moria, maybe you're better of trying your luck there :D [02-Dec-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I [02-Dec-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I'm heading to Benten, anyone need anything shipped? [02-Dec-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zyrotech** joined.* [02-Dec-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svexel** joined.* [02-Dec-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Does anyone have 5-10 HE that they would be willing to sell? [02-Dec-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @Miracle4you7 - have you left for BEN yet? [03-Dec-21 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: returning to katoa [03-Dec-21 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: who needs shipping [03-Dec-21 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: I don't want people to pay in money though [03-Dec-21 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ETERNAL_STALIN**: but in FTL fuel [03-Dec-21 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***caiborrg** joined.* [03-Dec-21 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** left.* [03-Dec-21 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** joined.* [03-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HiHi123** left.* [03-Dec-21 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jordroid** joined.* [03-Dec-21 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Telio** left.* [03-Dec-21 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: anyone have some aerostat foundations they could sell or loan? i'm building them but could use a few right now [03-Dec-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: How many AEF do you want? [03-Dec-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: And how much will you pay :-) [03-Dec-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Posted an H buy order just above CX price, could use it to close a gap before my shipment arrives :) [03-Dec-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Thanks Hyperion [03-Dec-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: No worries :) [03-Dec-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sintheras** deleted this message.* [03-Dec-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: @durandal I have 10 AEF lying around in my WAR if you still need any [03-Dec-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shooshte** joined.* [03-Dec-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: @sintheras PM me a price for 5 and i'll put up a buy order [03-Dec-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chaldon** joined.* [03-Dec-21 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **McCowen**: WTB 2 BDE, ad on LM, thanks [03-Dec-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: filled [03-Dec-21 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **McCowen**: Thankyou! [03-Dec-21 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np fellow Katoan, happy to help [03-Dec-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***woolymamath** joined.* [03-Dec-21 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: I have a ship open at Katoa, anyone need something moved? [03-Dec-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: Last call [03-Dec-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: put up your shipping contracts :) [03-Dec-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: @goresh you around? [03-Dec-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive dropped you a pm repy [03-Dec-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flich** left.* [03-Dec-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonisym** left.* [03-Dec-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonisym** joined.* [04-Dec-21 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joronimo** joined.* [04-Dec-21 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nekrothane** left.* [04-Dec-21 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jetran** left.* [04-Dec-21 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 100 DW sell order up if anyone needs [04-Dec-21 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Archon6006** left.* [04-Dec-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThreeEyedMagpie** joined.* [04-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM CB-282d -- plenty of hydrogen available [04-Dec-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone need anything shipped from Benten CX? 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[05-Dec-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: might be easier to reach korbin on discord, in the katoa UFO channel [05-Dec-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i could see increasing taxes on manufacturing slightly, but taxes on katoa aren't bad in the first place [05-Dec-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: so when pioneers bonus run we can cut taxes from manufacturing right because I have no pioneers [05-Dec-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: yeah when it's pios you could cut the taxes on electronics, cause it's the only industrie without pios [05-Dec-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think it's probably most prudent to give it a couple weeks regardless. if we keep going back and forth it's silly to readjust taxes every week [05-Dec-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Hopefully your new base will be able to bring some of the N to market. Apparently the existing bases on ben-d are for corporate use only or something. [05-Dec-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: good news on the N front -- i'm not even the only person settling ben-d this week that plans on N for public sale :) [05-Dec-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: damn fluffy aef's [05-Dec-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: its called bender :p [05-Dec-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll be running a very similar deal to how i do H, selling excess AMM and N on 'bender' LM [05-Dec-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've also heard 'bendy' [05-Dec-21 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i proposed 'tongi' or 'tongi matu' which means fertilizer or chemical fertilizer in maori, to fit the theme with katoa. but apparently the locals prefer a phonetic spelling of ben-d :shrug: [05-Dec-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: what do you mean David? why would I pay taxes if I have no pios? [05-Dec-21 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: eh, i don't think any extreme view will win out for taxes. likeliest outcome is taxes stay even across the board or get bumped slightly for manufacturing, but it'll never be all-or-nothing [05-Dec-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: point is I don't get a tax extempt when useless pioneers cogc runs so fair would be even taxes across industries and majority votes decide the cogc [05-Dec-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: in time planet will get specced towards pios / manuf / chem or whatever and attract that type of industries [05-Dec-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah personally i'm in favor of even across the board. i do manufacturing here but i also majority do fuel production. i benefit most from pio cogc but i keep voting manu because i think it's better for katoa as a planet. i feel like my industries being taxed evenly across the board is plenty fair; shifting to make manu pay for everything would be way too lopsided until/unless a much greater fraction of the planet was manu-only [05-Dec-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I vote manufacturing because I think it's best fited for Kat with Umbra close to make PG and Kat here to make WPL and PPF industries, can go as far to say it can support the APF industries for shipbuilding [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: full agree. plus the double-down on castillo-ito manufacturing faction bonus, high pop, and proximity to cx makes kat an enviable place to have a manufacturing hub [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: Prox could host the electronics and Kat do all the manufacturing [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: fuel industry here imo is a waste :P [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: no offense [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ^ this is literally the crux of my big base refactoring over the next 2 weeks [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: manu on kat, electronics on prox [05-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: chem on umbra [05-Dec-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: in my opinion taxes should be used for the good of all players on the base and not for a few [05-Dec-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: now depends on what the inhabitants vote of course, I can also just build another cogc somwhere for manufacturing if this flips too badly :) [05-Dec-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: fuel here isn't bad, local sourcing of amm/gal makes logistics manageable. caps your output needing to multipurpose the base, but you can def run profitable sf production here, better than lots of places [05-Dec-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: david, that's a fast way to kill progress because it forces you to always cater to the lowest common denominator, which is invariably going to be the most abundant [05-Dec-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: manu cogc gives katoa something to grow with. pio cogc ensures anyone interested in growth will stay away [05-Dec-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: so you would say the governor using all the taxes to push his base to have scientists is all reight because it is for an advancment? [05-Dec-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: first this is a planet not a base, and second korbin has proven to be pretty good at listening to what katoans have to say. i don't think he's some tyrant running things for a personal agenda. [05-Dec-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: i didn't say he was, just rying to point out that advancment allone is no good reason to use taxes [05-Dec-21 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and i feel that holding on to the least growth oriented planetary program because it benefits you personally is backwards [05-Dec-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: like i said i benefit most from a pio cogc, but would prefer a manu cogc, so when you talk about what's 'good for all', speak for yourself [05-Dec-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: i didn't say that i mind it being on manufacturing, i just don't think it is fair to have everyone pay, so that a few can make more profits [05-Dec-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you don't have to be on katoa, if you don't like the taxes and the manu cogc you can always relocate :) [05-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: The current sistem bars players that are not pro from voting so it's far and does not even suggest a "fair" play [05-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: Majority decides, period. [05-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: true, i can do that guess i'm just going to demolish my buildings and leave the CM here... [05-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: it's not about being fair or not, remember that so many players can't even vote :) [05-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you can demolish the cm now too [05-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and get a permit back [05-Dec-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: yes but if i don't the upkeep for cogc stays the same... [05-Dec-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: and i don't have to pay any taxes [05-Dec-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so now it's about a spite move to hurt others because you don't get your way? i see. [05-Dec-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: 20/d/building is quite small tbh, that's like what 400/d? [05-Dec-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: besids even if the manufactoing taxes where to increase they would still make more money with the COGC giving them more production/day [05-Dec-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: btw by having manuf cogc we already pay 25% more taxes for manufacturing [05-Dec-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: so the manuf tax is 25/d [05-Dec-21 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: oh yes you do but you also have to pay less in consumubales, cause you can produce more per day [05-Dec-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: and prove me wrong but that is going to save you more than you pay extra [05-Dec-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 'why should i pay taxes that fund higher education programs, me and my buddies are never going to college' [05-Dec-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: derelict do you mean in real life or in game? [05-Dec-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: making a comparison [05-Dec-21 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: everybody pays taxes for things that don't benefit them personally [05-Dec-21 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: often you even have a choice whether it benefits you personally [05-Dec-21 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you could always build a couple highly profitable BMPs and take advantage of the manu bonus [05-Dec-21 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: true, but if everyone does that is not going to work out [05-Dec-21 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if we go the lowest common denominator approach, no one but pios will ever benefit, locking the planet to a mediocre low tier bonus. bad for growth. bad for the local economy. [05-Dec-21 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: we just end up with a planet that makes an assortment of non-competitive low tier goods, as other planets specialize and are able to sell the same goods at better margins [05-Dec-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: NL, KV is the future [05-Dec-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: pio stuff is crap sorry :P [05-Dec-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in 9h i'll set up on ben-d, then i'll move all my amm production off katoa in favor of PPF and SCA [05-Dec-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: well i guess COGC is not fair by desgin, but especially when it's on one industry increasing it's taxes seem fair cause that way they still make more money then before and it would make it atleast a litlle bit more fair [05-Dec-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm expanding techs industries, APF, SCA, MCA [05-Dec-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: so the manuf cogc just brings it up from low efficiency problem is not a "huge boost" [05-Dec-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: lack of techs, tier 3 luxuries kinda hurt on production cycles, it's hardly a massive profit you think I am doing lol, maybe others have some dedicated industry but not me [05-Dec-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm also about to move all my food production off of proxion to take advantage of higher tier workers, and even though i'll lose all the bonus from the agri cogc, i'm not about to demand that they move all taxes to agri to make me feel better about it [05-Dec-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: oh but proxion dosn't have all taxes at the same rate [05-Dec-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: just plan your bases to use the specialities [05-Dec-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: whether they do or don't is irrelevant to my point, but it does highlight one thing: people feel differently about it. so best bet is probably to mention to korbin directly and/or start a discussion on discord or even the forums where it'll still be seen tomorrow and can get more people's opinions on it [05-Dec-21 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm in the flat rate camp personally, but obviously there are differing opinions [05-Dec-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: i guess that is true, if people don't bother reading the planet chat, which everyone has [05-Dec-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: problem is no one scrolls up on planet chat. someone joining now probably won't be bothered to scroll up to even see what we're talking about [05-Dec-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: and you expect it to be different in the forums or on discord, where even more is being posted? [05-Dec-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but again, your choice. you've been heard by at least two people who disagree with you, what other audience you seek is your choice [05-Dec-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: really only suggesting because i know from experience that 2 hr old planet chat is far more stale than 2hr old discord chat which is more stale than 2day old forum posts [05-Dec-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David2468**: true, than i thank you for your time and patience with me [05-Dec-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no problem and appreciate the discussion, even if we disagree it's a conversation worth having [05-Dec-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I personally don't care about taxes but I disapprove on pioneers bonus which promotes an odd type of industry and overall is a waste of good 15% efficiency [05-Dec-21 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: Kat needs synergy with Prox, Gibson, Umbra not useless pioneers [05-Dec-21 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: but I agree that for a starting account the manufacturing cogc is not a very good bonus [05-Dec-21 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: so new players wouldn't be able to rip the benefits of it right away [05-Dec-21 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think that taxes should stay flat until there's a strong reason to increase them to meet popi demand or other planetary goals, and then who bears the weight can be up for discussion. with current tax rates i don't think anyone's need to be lowered. which afaik, is why proxion's are unbalanced, because they were working towards high end popi [05-Dec-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: but ultimately you can vote whatever you want and gives you best benefit of course, because each has his own plans and can't be a judge of that, however being fair is a rather weak point since the system itself is not fair by design and was even restricted to pro players to manipulate the bonus as they see fit without any opposition [05-Dec-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: @Korbin_Dallas whenever you're around probably a topic worth addressing with the knowledge inherent in your position regarding current taxes and future plans [05-Dec-21 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: yeah Prox built more infra than the entire universe ofc with donations also :) [05-Dec-21 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and Agri taxes are high due to SIZE of farms [05-Dec-21 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: huge donations. i made a _small_ donation of 50000 CIS :) [05-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Hi, new guy here [05-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hi new guy! [05-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Anything I need to know? [05-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: on average a FRM is 2x as big as average building since it occupies 30 space [05-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: Hi new guy [05-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd6a6aad002** left.* [05-Dec-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lots of little things to pick up, mostly over time [05-Dec-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: anything specific you want to know about? like are you asking planet specific or the game in general? [05-Dec-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I see, thanks for the welcome! [05-Dec-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Mostly general [05-Dec-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I just purchased some stuff in the CXL and need to pick them up [05-Dec-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: good places to start are the tutorial transmissions and the handbook, both in the HELP menu [05-Dec-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: CX used to be on planet and have infinite storage... those were the good days [05-Dec-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Yeah, I've been browsing them! [05-Dec-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you'll need to send a ship, and if you didn't rent a warehouse your goods are probably in a contract (CONTS) you'll need to fulfill when your ship gets there [05-Dec-21 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I just sent one so I'm waiting for it to arrive! I didn't realize I needed to purchase stuff since I had some items I could start producing already [05-Dec-21 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: starter strategy is usually laid out as: build everything you can, start production, then sell excess of anything you can get away with and spend all your starter cash on more production building parts to get your production built out as fast as possible [05-Dec-21 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Ooh, thanks for the protip! [05-Dec-21 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: doubling your production with new buildings right away can shave a week or more off your ramp up time [05-Dec-21 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and when you fly, fly slow -- a couple notches off minimum is usually the best time/fuel tradeoff [05-Dec-21 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: best pro tip would be to make your own consumables dw/rat as they tend to be expensive [05-Dec-21 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: fuel is a big expense over time. also try to plan on infrequent trips to cx for the same reason [05-Dec-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: with that supplied production prices will be far cheaper and you won't risk bankrupcy when you don't sell stuff in time :D [05-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I think I made a mistake being a constructor then hahaha [05-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: think I almost went bankrupt twice since I started on Umbra :P [05-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it can also be a good source of additional starter cash, if you're not planning on interstellar trade right away you can sell your FF, and you can probably get away with selling half your SF (including what's in the tanks) [05-Dec-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it can be nice to self-supply upkeep items for sure, but you can definitely turn a profit by focusing on your core output and add self-supply in later [05-Dec-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: This means I should work on resource buildings first? [05-Dec-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if you started constructor, it might be a bit of a leap to try to set up food/water infrastructure right away. focus on making some money as a constructor [05-Dec-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: not all resources worth extracting due to abundance [05-Dec-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: on katoa, not much for constructor resources. [05-Dec-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm. [05-Dec-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: lm? Sorry I still haven't picked up on all the acronyms [05-Dec-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: local market -- it's a pro/basic feature, not available for trial users [05-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you can look at it by clicking 'local market' on the planet info screen to see what it is, but you won't be able to accept or place ads without at least 1mo of subscription, and can only place ads with an active subscription [05-Dec-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I see, I was hoping to get a feel of the game first to check if it's something I enjoyed [05-Dec-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you can absolutely run for months on a trial account and have fun with it [05-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: paid has great perks and lots of folks think it's very worth it once they play the game for a while, but it's not mandatory by any means [05-Dec-21 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I see. A friend originally recommended this game to me but they seem to have stopped before I got around to finding time for it [05-Dec-21 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: It does seem like the kind of game you only need to check on a few times a day [05-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: absolutely. when i started getting into it i noticed right away that i spent the vast majority of my time planning and plotting, and only a few minutes here or there actually interacting with the game [05-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: there's more to do as you scale up, but so far with 6 bases never more than i can reasonably accomplish in 15-20min a day, and could be a lot less if i planned for longer stretches of inactivity [05-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: One of those where you plan with a spreadsheet? [05-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: absolutely [05-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I guess I'll have to learn that soon ;D [05-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: there are also some great tools under HELP->handbook->wiki->community resources [05-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the community is very active in developing external tooling and reverse engineering game systems [05-Dec-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: placed small FTL buy order above market if anyone can fill [05-Dec-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: appreciate that, thanks [05-Dec-21 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone need anything shipped back from Benten CX while I'm here? [05-Dec-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aldin** deleted this message.* [05-Dec-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aldin** deleted this message.* [05-Dec-21 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: @Sarantia I have a N base also on Ben-d but it's for personal use I only have 1x COL [05-Dec-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Within the week I'll have a pipeline from Ben-D to the CX for N :) Hang in there Katoans [05-Dec-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: neke don't know if you saw but i've got two loaded ships en route right now, decent sized base from scratch going up in ~4h :) [05-Dec-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: excellent [05-Dec-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thought you were doing AMM? 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[06-Dec-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: *Shakes fist at Hyperion's SF Order @ CS* [06-Dec-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: *Thanks Hyperion for lots of shipping money* [06-Dec-21 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: CX* [06-Dec-21 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceNPNANA** left.* [06-Dec-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: Going from BEN to Katoa with space left if someone needs things shipped. [06-Dec-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dzijan** joined.* [06-Dec-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***simeon437** joined.* [06-Dec-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @Dominaria are you still at BEN? [06-Dec-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Figure I'm responding too late lol [06-Dec-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: ill be coming back from BEN in 30/40 minutes @bitrunnr [06-Dec-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: well it'll take a day but ill be heading out then [06-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gunhouse** left.* [06-Dec-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karhuttaja** left.* [06-Dec-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: (late again) just put up the ad [06-Dec-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i'll leave it in case anyone else has some spare rom [06-Dec-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll have a ship at the station in 3h, and prob headed back to katoa shortly after, mostly empty. i'll check the board before i head home, if you're still there i'll gra you [06-Dec-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: @bitrunnr SF sure is selling slowly nowadays [06-Dec-21 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: @bitrunner, package delivery in ~4.5h [06-Dec-21 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9121cfac93** left.* [07-Dec-21 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: @bitrunnr sorry didn't see this in time. I had already left by then [07-Dec-21 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: but seems as if you found other means :) [07-Dec-21 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***scintilla** joined.* [07-Dec-21 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: np and thanks :) [07-Dec-21 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VVhatever** left.* [07-Dec-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cignos** left.* [07-Dec-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dosinius** joined.* [07-Dec-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***robinjhi** joined.* [07-Dec-21 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrJoy** left.* [07-Dec-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrJoy** joined.* [07-Dec-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mekazul** joined.* [07-Dec-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lei-Nei** left.* [07-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lei-Nei** joined.* [07-Dec-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lei-Nei** left.* [07-Dec-21 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: FF about to rise in price [07-Dec-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm making for my own use [07-Dec-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Efan's going inactgive [07-Dec-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: did he quit? [07-Dec-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: he's getting bored he said on Ementior [07-Dec-21 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I still wanna build a few ships before that happens and I'm not there yet but this is good oportunity for smaller producers ofc [07-Dec-21 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can anyone fill an order for 8 TRU right now on the LM [07-Dec-21 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yap [07-Dec-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: many thanks [07-Dec-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You know where that's going! [07-Dec-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: np. i think TRU is the thing i've most often forgotten for builds [07-Dec-21 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: every single base I forget it [07-Dec-21 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: enough that i bought extras last time :) [07-Dec-21 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: good luck and godspeed, seeya on ben-d soon :) [07-Dec-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _salutes_ [07-Dec-21 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also i need 56 BDE in case anyone is mass producing them. and 98 BBH, and 126 BSE. if you want to liquidate a stockpile, you know who to dm. [07-Dec-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol sorry, make that 166 BSE [07-Dec-21 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _pats down jacket pockets_ [07-Dec-21 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not sure I have that around here sorry [07-Dec-21 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i think building out nemesis isn't going to be as immediate as i'd hoped, at least not without wiping out my liquid assets, which i still need for repairs and rebuilds [07-Dec-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: to be fair, it's a plan for a 500/500 base from scratch. so i knew it was going to take a fair bit of fabs :) [07-Dec-21 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NucleoWafflez** left.* [08-Dec-21 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** left.* [08-Dec-21 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nachitzu** left.* [08-Dec-21 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thib662** left.* [08-Dec-21 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FizzyMartin** left.* [08-Dec-21 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [08-Dec-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SusugomamogusuS** joined.* [08-Dec-21 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: any NL producer here? [08-Dec-21 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I have five Weaving Plants, but mainly produce KV or COT. [08-Dec-21 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: How much NL do you need? [08-Dec-21 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: depends on price :) [08-Dec-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: would buy around 40 [08-Dec-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody need REP? [08-Dec-21 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: need a hydrogen order filled put up an add if anyone has some spare here [08-Dec-21 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [08-Dec-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: thank you very much ladies and gentlemen [08-Dec-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: much appreciated [09-Dec-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BADBART1** joined.* [09-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FortunateSpy5** joined.* [09-Dec-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fube431** left.* [09-Dec-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Lightening my inventory a bit, check out the LM for LST, MCG, OVE, PWO, COF, Ag product, H and RAT [09-Dec-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And if you want more of anything just drop me a line :) [09-Dec-21 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MattyAlin** left.* [09-Dec-21 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CaptEvilStopper**: Got a stack of each MAI and VEG of 200 at 85/u on LM if anyone is wanting to stock up [09-Dec-21 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and im ditching some odd surplus amounts at cheaper stil [09-Dec-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: First HQ upgrade in 1 day :-) guess after this i should start looking outwards towards a seocnd base somewhere [09-Dec-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: second [09-Dec-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thinking of branching into fuel production [09-Dec-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mxguire** joined.* [09-Dec-21 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: to boldly lose money where no one has lost money before [09-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think one or two people have lost money there before [09-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've come a long way, but once upon a time [09-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: <-- this guy lost a bit [10-Dec-21 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fadill** left.* [10-Dec-21 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mazyrian** left.* [10-Dec-21 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panner** left.* [10-Dec-21 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SevenFall** joined.* [10-Dec-21 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: well hq upgrade is done so 250 or so more land to play with should keep me goign for a few weeks [10-Dec-21 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: so im sensing SF isnt a good option? [10-Dec-21 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xXNullValueXx** left.* [10-Dec-21 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: SF is a tough road alone [10-Dec-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i did it myself a long time ago; at the time cx h prices were a little better but off-cx availability was pretty much nil. prices crashed pretty immediately to near-mm levels. it was a struggle to get set up but once i sourced my own h and was set up for amm, gal, and ref on katoa, it was and still is decently profitable. you can definitely do it, but it's not the best profit potential out there, and that's unlikely to change. i do enough volume to make it worthwhile, but even so i've considered tearing it all out and doing something else a few times. hard to give up a near infinite supply of homemade fuel though :) [10-Dec-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IloveCats** left.* [10-Dec-21 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dneirf** joined.* [11-Dec-21 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9c399c4970** left.* [11-Dec-21 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EdgyVen** joined.* [11-Dec-21 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jordroid** left.* [11-Dec-21 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trajos** joined.* [11-Dec-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***southwest102** joined.* [11-Dec-21 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***atflac** joined.* [11-Dec-21 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uhus** joined.* [11-Dec-21 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shooshte** left.* [11-Dec-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ScarletBlue** joined.* [12-Dec-21 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brainiac** joined.* [12-Dec-21 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap RAT, BDE and COF on the LM, alongside 100 units of N [12-Dec-21 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Plenty more COF, H2O coming if that’s your thing let me know [12-Dec-21 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also filling PWO (+125) and OVE (+45) orders if I see them [12-Dec-21 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: bought the COF [12-Dec-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: quick emergency ad up for h2o if anyone has 100 to spare in the immediate future [12-Dec-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: There you go... [12-Dec-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonflame8621** joined.* [12-Dec-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! [12-Dec-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***woolymamath** left.* [12-Dec-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from Ben cx to katoa on LM [12-Dec-21 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive jsut upgraded my HQ to 1000 land and used 3rd Permit, so am i right i cant build a new base now until i build HQ to 5 to get antoher permit? [12-Dec-21 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or do i get a permit when i build the next base? [12-Dec-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i have 4 permits and 4 bases so [12-Dec-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***opie** deleted this message.* [12-Dec-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: oops deleted [12-Dec-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: now sure what you mean, it tells you how many bases you can have [12-Dec-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: not sure [12-Dec-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: if you are at 3/3 bases then you need to upgrade HQ to be able to settle another planet or free space and remove a license from Katoa [12-Dec-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh hte permits allow bases, i thought they were just to increase land on a base hehe [13-Dec-21 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hazelfish** joined.* [13-Dec-21 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boombow85** joined.* [13-Dec-21 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainAutismn** joined.* [13-Dec-21 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dzijan** left.* [13-Dec-21 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone have any basic overalls to sell? I'll pay 45/each which is more than what people are bidding at Benten CX. [13-Dec-21 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @Miracle4you7 dm you [13-Dec-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: @Pantalaimon - Sent you a msg back. [13-Dec-21 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biolaculos** joined.* [13-Dec-21 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thog** joined.* [13-Dec-21 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lachtron** joined.* [13-Dec-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: two ships headed to Nemesis to plop down a 500/500 base from scratch :flex: [13-Dec-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: t-12h [13-Dec-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FoxCorp** joined.* [13-Dec-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: all t1 stuff, but still feels good carrying 2000 mcg, 212 bse, etc all out to fuel one massive construction. gonna suck for repairs in 90d though [13-Dec-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: nice derelict, im saving up for a new base on deimos [13-Dec-21 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: just demolished my deimos base was a good decision at that time but now is waste of time and hauling capacity [13-Dec-21 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah also tech growth is very very slow there right now. if i'd known, i might have chosen to relocate and build my pp3s elsewhere [13-Dec-21 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but deimos was attractive for ALO->AL->PP2, also a couple GF, the metallurgy bonus is nice. [13-Dec-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: think i'm going to toss an FS out there, but i hate how much metal i'm going to have to haul to another faction to make it useful [13-Dec-21 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: have you considered Ementior? ALO + LST all in one spot [13-Dec-21 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: And, we all deal in CIS [13-Dec-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yes, although the killer for me is the small parts from the FS, which needs FE/STL. is there a good iron source out there? [13-Dec-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: strongly considering putting a base out there one way or another [13-Dec-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I don't think so - but I'm not sure about the second group of planets even further out. [13-Dec-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i may forego the fs entirely, mostly just want a bulk of SFK/MFK, and as long as someone can supply a stockpile i'll just stock up and forget the FS [13-Dec-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Just need someone on Gibson to run a FS for two weeks and fill the CX for a year. Esabab has a FE planet out there somehwere too [13-Dec-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: EL-768D [13-Dec-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i considered using a permit on gibson too, pretty much just for that and maybe a pp1 or three. i make plenty of lst [13-Dec-21 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and nearby bases are rapidly becoming far more important than optimal yields [13-Dec-21 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've still got a free permit after nemesis, and mostly there for the next permit after that, so i've got a couple more bases i can build before the lfab crunch makes it harder [13-Dec-21 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I unfortunately focused a lot on non starter planets, but it turns out have 5 planets all 1-1.5 days takes a lot of ship time [13-Dec-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i don't mind burning some extra fuel, if i can do so and make it 12h or less for most flights, that really helps [13-Dec-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: deimos is still over a day pretty much always though. and flying to MOR is nearly a day. unless i really want to waste fuel [13-Dec-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: All mine are multiples of 12hrs, expensively sometimes. Pretty much all my bases now have a FF stash so I can make it back after a full burn [13-Dec-21 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i've done that too, try to keep 300+ ff stashed at any base, like my gg, deimos, even proxion even though it only takes like 30 ff to get there lol [13-Dec-21 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: even so, ementior sounds fun. i like the idea of a frontier base, so even if not on ementior proper i'll likely set up shop nearby in anticipation of the burgeoning local economy [13-Dec-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Your welcome to join us, we even got a consumable planet going now in the area [13-Dec-21 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Ementior now has a COGC [13-Dec-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Bringing attention to this here as well as in the UFO discord. I haven't seen any activity from our governor for a while and noted that our CoGC is about 4 days from going on strike. I'd be willing to coordinate purchase of some of the upkeep needs if we have any willing contributors financially towards the ~100K weekly cost of the combined CoGC, SST, and INF upkeep [13-Dec-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: If you are active in UFO, please respond there as I can track those responses more easily; but a private message in game would work as well to set up contributions [13-Dec-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll keep track of contributions and purchases in the linked sheet for transparency - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xqrxd7eBmXGrvgpEadrqLN6FHdh7_7MF2w7lxIAFdNI/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xqrxd7eBmXGrvgpEadrqLN6FHdh7_7MF2w7lxIAFdNI/edit?usp=sharing Katoa Gov Trust Summary ,12/12/2021,Capital Budget,All Time Spending Upkeep Expense,Revenue,Savings,Weekly Rev/Expense,Capital Budget,Total Upkeep Spent, β‚‘ - Total Spent:, β‚‘ - ,Total Revenue:, β‚‘ - ,Previous Total:, β‚‘ - ,Cap Revenue, β‚‘ - ,Previous Total:, β‚‘ - ,Total Capital Spent, β‚‘ - From Taxes... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/L-oL3QpaCCffYZflRrNjtgK1gflt0t6eyCmIxjv-6_0/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/OfoTBs51FH0vr0oCMIch2RBzEZB50JhYX2L8yvu6NEHk-98Nc3QngF81VcTL1A9iUo_IZfij4sDdyQ%3Dw1200-h630-p [14-Dec-21 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dergell** joined.* [14-Dec-21 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: We're going to need a governor... [14-Dec-21 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: it's a big job though. [14-Dec-21 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm already governor of Ementior, otherwise I'd do it. [14-Dec-21 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: so i should consider ementior as alternative to my deimos expansion idea, will take a look [14-Dec-21 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: are there any financial incentives, maybe a "frontier fund" toweards the cost of first base? :-) [14-Dec-21 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i must admit at quick glance there are some interesting potential production lines based onthe various mats onthe planets there [14-Dec-21 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: well we are developing KW-358b to get rid of alo dependency from Deimos [14-Dec-21 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I encourage you to sit around Kat and not go waste your time hauling for days, close bases provide a huge logistic capabilities [14-Dec-21 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im planning to produce AL so that is why i inityially thought deimos [14-Dec-21 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive built up my KAT base aas high as i weant to for now [14-Dec-21 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: so exploring options [14-Dec-21 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: we have Kw-358b for alo, Gibson for pp2's [14-Dec-21 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and uv- something for lst [14-Dec-21 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: efca actually has those mines and I help her expand them slowly as best as I can [14-Dec-21 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: on the alo side I think hauling alo/al from Deimos is horrible, I've done it and it sux [14-Dec-21 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: but after all is a personal preference, I actually haul now alo from that KW- mine [14-Dec-21 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: so I guess problem is you'd want ALO on the planet to make AL, prefabs, right? [14-Dec-21 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: or is price the problem? [14-Dec-21 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I can probably fund a cogc for the alo planet but as I see nobody really wants or cares about doing industry around Ben except few lost souls on Gibson [14-Dec-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: looks like without cogc and few experts for a 90days ROI alo would be around 42/u and with cogc around 34/u [14-Dec-21 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah id want a planet with ALO, I cna supply C and O [14-Dec-21 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive worked out an initial set up will cost me around 210,000 in resources, so working on that thrugh my KAT business but is going ot take a bit [14-Dec-21 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: for all base? [14-Dec-21 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: for base, some hab, ext and some sme etc [14-Dec-21 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if ive calculated it correctly [14-Dec-21 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm not really sure why people dread so much hauling ALO, it's light and I've been hauling it for almost a year now, used to import it from Deimos to Umbra and had PP2's on umbra [14-Dec-21 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'll fill the rat in few hrs when I land for cogc [14-Dec-21 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @Aldin - I've put an ad up for 250 RAT to reimburse you for at least some of that contribution! [14-Dec-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Katoans - I'm posting some ads for DW inputs for the CoGC at 30 per DW, if you can help with some portion of those, that would be appreciated! [14-Dec-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill fill 1 contract [14-Dec-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: done [14-Dec-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Thanks @karr1981! [14-Dec-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np [14-Dec-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: And @derelict and @knarfaction both deserve a shout out for direct or financial contributions, thanks guys! [14-Dec-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OnlyCowardsUse** joined.* [14-Dec-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Done my part [14-Dec-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TomMorano** joined.* [14-Dec-21 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: for katoa! [14-Dec-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Yes - thanks for the donations @Pantalaimon [14-Dec-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll put up the remainder of the ads for our outstanding CoGC needs in about 4-5 hours, have to pack up for a bit though [14-Dec-21 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: more shiploads of H @ LM CB-282d, come and get 'em! [14-Dec-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also a shipload of N tomorrow-ish on BEN-d, feel free to dm me with a bid or i'll post a public price when the load is complete [14-Dec-21 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Furstenburger** joined.* [14-Dec-21 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: that feeling when a 3 hour old company grabs your shipping orders but doesn't take the items [14-Dec-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: :facepalm: it's gonna be a long trip [14-Dec-21 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Discotreat** joined.* [14-Dec-21 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Another batch of CoGC intended DW orders are up on the LM - tagged with "E" for excellent to help identify them in the LM list. [14-Dec-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to vallis on LM. [15-Dec-21 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***z3dds** joined.* [15-Dec-21 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kingway888** joined.* [15-Dec-21 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want to buy 60 BDE off me? Drop me a DM [15-Dec-21 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **corrim**: added some shipping BEN-Katoa [15-Dec-21 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***scintilla** left.* [15-Dec-21 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***robinjhi** left.* [15-Dec-21 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: We're close to fulfilling the CoGC needs - ads up for another 100 DW x 3 if anyone else can help contribute some towards that need @ 30 per DW :) [15-Dec-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i cna prob do another 100 [15-Dec-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: OK - CoGC satisfied and 1 cycle of SST DW inputs handled from the donations we had received. Thanks everyone! [15-Dec-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: excellent, thanks for stepping up to manage it in dallas' absense [15-Dec-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Not a problem - happy to pitch in with coordination. [15-Dec-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: if a shipping contract breahes the blocked unpicked up goods come back to me right? [15-Dec-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: breaches* [15-Dec-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: If the blocked goods are still in your inventory, then yes. [16-Dec-21 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Somehow a 1-day old account rated A/P/P grabbed a transport ad I’m sure was set to A, and has subsequently gone AWOL 25k of goods ffs [16-Dec-21 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: this system needs to change [16-Dec-21 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oh crap can anyone spare me like 2000 AIC? i forgot to refuel before going there and now strandd with no AIC or FF haha [16-Dec-21 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure [16-Dec-21 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: Yeah @neke86... the LM rating system needs redesign, now there is basically no reason to use anything other than P/A and the A is not really that well protected [16-Dec-21 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive listed 1 C for 2000 AIC [16-Dec-21 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m lining up some piracy, just choosing my .. sponsors [16-Dec-21 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate [16-Dec-21 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Done.. probably could e just sold me 2k worth of C thiugh lol [16-Dec-21 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i just filled an order will sort with more C when it is made [16-Dec-21 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No stress [16-Dec-21 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dillerek** joined.* [16-Dec-21 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WildOnion** joined.* [16-Dec-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Is there some way to view the items you have on the CXL? [16-Dec-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CXOS [16-Dec-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Thanks! [16-Dec-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lots of full-ship hydrogen shipping from LM CB-282d, in case anyone wants to make a 'quick' 10k [16-Dec-21 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and a full shipload still for sale at 75/u [16-Dec-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: With FF at 25- and the round trip needing 200 + ~360 SF it’s about 7.5k in fuel and a few hundred more for DMG [16-Dec-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah FF is a mess right now [16-Dec-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: not going to pretend i don't like the profits, but it is certainly hampering other trade [16-Dec-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it’s a good route at SF 7 / FF 10 [16-Dec-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well SF is cheap, and an alternate i have available is a shipload of N at 112/u and a shipload of AMM at 69/u out on BEN-d (LM UV-351d) [16-Dec-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ff will come back down, and i gotta fly out there to resupply soon anyway, so i'll just fetch my own H for now. once ff comes back down a bit someone will prob pick it up. i also offer split ships if you want some H for yourself and a shipping contract to fill the rest of your space, just dm [16-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: uff, I didn't even realize FF is at MM right now... [16-Dec-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll have a few thousand to put on the board in several hours, i imagine by then the price wars will begin anew so price will likely drop. surprised we run out though; i guess efan is no longer deflating the price with their massive inventory [16-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if there's really still no competition i may price a little lower just because it hurts the local economy in general for so many folks to be stuck at max price for ff [16-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: wow, nice FF price :) [16-Dec-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: more FF in 3h [16-Dec-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and if anyone picks up one of my LM CB-282d ads, sale or shipping, i'll fill your tank via LM for 4500 (15/u for 300) [16-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that includes you @Haestrom, if you put up a buy at that price i'll fill it [16-Dec-21 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Haestrom**: thanks, have FF stored for now, hopefully the supply will get back up soon [16-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i imagine it will. a supply vacuum on frequently traded items never seems to last long [16-Dec-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theCeleryBear** joined.* [16-Dec-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM UV-351d (BEN-d) now offering N and AMM for pickup, come get some! [16-Dec-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SusugomamogusuS** left.* [16-Dec-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to sell 20 OVE on LM? i messed up my shipment os it wont be back in time hehehe [16-Dec-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if os ive put a buy up [16-Dec-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks McCowen [16-Dec-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jacuribu** left.* [16-Dec-21 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Flying Benten to Katoa shortly, almost empty. anyone need something hauled? [16-Dec-21 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **McCowen**: looks like 2 ads on Kat LM... [16-Dec-21 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: just put up some FF at CX at lower than MM for the first few takers. i mean 20/u isn't exactly a fire sale, but i'm pretty much the only seller right now so hopefully a little better than MM pricing [16-Dec-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Galexia** joined.* [16-Dec-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dormeu** joined.* [16-Dec-21 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sf is cheap, N is expensive! check LM UV-351d for a deal on a full ship of N at a nice discount. AMM also available! courtesy of your friendly local πŸ€‘ π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand discount wholesalers [16-Dec-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Associator** joined.* [17-Dec-21 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theCeleryBear** left.* [17-Dec-21 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FortunateSpy5** left.* [17-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone have any PE available for sale? I'll pay 3.75/each for 50 [17-Dec-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BADBART1** left.* [17-Dec-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on LM. [17-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: buying 100 hydrogen on katoa for 100 a piece if anyone can fill, thanks. [17-Dec-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sell PE [17-Dec-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icantthinkofaname** joined.* [17-Dec-21 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If any Katoans would like a lucrative shipping contract to fly to Etherwind and return, for 10k CIS, please DM me (too many contracts to arrange to just put them on the LM) [17-Dec-21 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM UV-351d is the place to shop for full ships of N or AMM, right here in benten system! blow some gas for a good deal on gases, come and get 'em! [17-Dec-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mxguire** left.* [17-Dec-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: ^^ [18-Dec-21 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Varb** joined.* [18-Dec-21 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***morgo1181** joined.* [18-Dec-21 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neerio** joined.* [18-Dec-21 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Firespray_Industries** joined.* [18-Dec-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: This place is so dirty and doesn't even have my favorite brand of stem cell treatment... [18-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: love it or leave it. katoa may be a stinky toxic rock, but it's _our_ stinky toxic rock. [18-Dec-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and on that note, i'm officially running for governor. election starts in 5 days, by then i will consolidate a plan and announce my platform [18-Dec-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: is it a fuel making campaign? [18-Dec-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: nope, manufacturing is what's good for katoa imo, but my platform is not about cogc specifically [18-Dec-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if the people want pio, that's what we get [18-Dec-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: more about sourcing planetary upkeep reliably and protecting our infrastructure for the future [18-Dec-21 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: i want to build a spf here but doesnt look feasable :) [18-Dec-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i want engineers here, and eventually scientists. but it's a long road [18-Dec-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so we have to start with reliable sourcing on upkeeps to improve satisfaction and building some new infrastructure [18-Dec-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: then working with corps to try to get them to help push for higher tier workers on katoa, to start educating folks up. but i haven't even seen the books and i think our current governor is awol and we may have lost whatever treasury we had [18-Dec-21 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: gotta run for now but happy to discuss further here or on discord either via dm or in the katoa politics ufo channel [18-Dec-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: could really use some COT if anyone's got extra, put an ad up over ask for 10 [18-Dec-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've just queued up 25,000 PE that will finish in ~65 hours, if anyone wants it (or most of it) send me a bid in PM :) [18-Dec-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I also need to move 500 RAT to pay some bills before KAWA send their kneecappers... listed at 50/u currently but happy to discount for the bulk [18-Dec-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sorry, 1,000 listed in batches of 200 @ 45/u [18-Dec-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Thanks for the RAT! [18-Dec-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: PSA: Need some cash? Do you have an idle ship? Look no further than LM CB-282D for transportation ads. 10k per round trip between here and CB-282D. [18-Dec-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: In addition transporters will receive access to SF at 6/u and FF at 9/u (for personal use only) [18-Dec-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ^ that's a hell of a deal, folks [18-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: i'm currently his only work horse :p [18-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: halp pls [18-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: haha [18-Dec-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That’s what he tells all his shippers, I remember when I was his only one [18-Dec-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :heartbreak: [18-Dec-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Now I’m just a side-shipper [18-Dec-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol sinth on the hustle [18-Dec-21 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: lol [18-Dec-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ur the only one boo, i swear [18-Dec-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: burn that fuel, we have to meet quota! [18-Dec-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: lmao [18-Dec-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've posted shipping contracts for ~360m3 of goods for 2.5k CISfor Benten CX to Katoa [18-Dec-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would appreciate if anyone has the room after a CX run to bring it back for me! [18-Dec-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: headed to prox if you need anything shipped that way [18-Dec-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: from BEN [18-Dec-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: fairly light load because my logistics are currently a steaming mess [18-Dec-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same, my shipping-lane is completely broken and it's not even Sinth's fault this time. I have nothing for BEN>PRX at the minute. Where are you headed from PRX? [18-Dec-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: umbra, then katoa [18-Dec-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and i will be full or close to it for both of those legs [18-Dec-21 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nps [18-Dec-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GROX69** joined.* [19-Dec-21 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Major_Payne_02** joined.* [19-Dec-21 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoans, get your Nitrogen orders in [19-Dec-21 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will be hitting the CX bid in the next ~12-16 hours. [19-Dec-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ads up for 2 BDE and 2 BTA at 'i want it now' pricing :) [19-Dec-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! now just 2 BTA [19-Dec-21 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np, sorry i cant help on the bta currently [19-Dec-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: price reduction on a full ship of AMM from LM UV-351d, now just 60/u [19-Dec-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sweet, the conversion of katoa has begun. thx neke [19-Dec-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oops lol, reassessing upkeep ran me out of DW, ad up for 100 of those now [19-Dec-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ok for my final trick, does anyone have SI on planet? [19-Dec-21 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i could move 2 smelters to emit some SI if you need a few in the next day or so [19-Dec-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm going to buy a little at market for right now, but i just built a CLR and will be running through 3-4 daily so definitely willing to buy local going forward [19-Dec-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so yes, please [19-Dec-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: ok switched them over, should have 10 or so in about 24h [19-Dec-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: maybe 8, i can't supply longterm tho so you'll want to find another local supplier [19-Dec-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no worries, thx for the short term fix, name your price and i'll pop up an ad [19-Dec-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: 750 fair that's a bit of a break off CX was at before it bumped to 900 [19-Dec-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: fair? missed question mark in there [19-Dec-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sounds good, 8 or 10? [19-Dec-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: i think 8 is all i'll have [19-Dec-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: thx [19-Dec-21 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sweet, appreciate it [19-Dec-21 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll also be in the local market for BGO occasionally if it comes up. AU and all it's variants are really hard to ship [19-Dec-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pokter** joined.* [19-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also celebrating death day for my trusty pp1 betsy. she's worked hard, she's made hundreds of BSE, and now it's time to rest [19-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: RIP betsy [19-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just put my PP1s to rest as well [19-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *sniffle [19-Dec-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no more BDE hose [19-Dec-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: pp1 on Kat? oh you poor souls :p [19-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: when BSE were perpetually at 1500 on BEN it made sense [19-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: exactly [19-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and when BDE were 1500 [19-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was making them for a quarter that lol [19-Dec-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i saved a _lot_ of money dragging FE and LST back from MOR with my free ship space and just churning out BSE locally [19-Dec-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: yeah used to buy feo/fe from moria too and assemble it on Umbra [19-Dec-21 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but no more room. now i'm building tech buildings that will take forever to populate ;) [19-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want 100 COF? [19-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: like, for free? [19-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol [19-Dec-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nothing is ever free [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not even the free stuff [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: name your price, i'll probably buy [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: without a park growing techs will get a while [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 290 [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well add PAR to my platform running for governor [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: best price for you [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ad going up in a sec [19-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: gotta get my governor bribes in early [19-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it's hard to make political promises when i have no idea what kind of tax income or regular expenses we have [19-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but a PAR seems like a no brainer [19-Dec-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not something a real politician worries about mate [19-Dec-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and also props to neke for filling like half a dozen of my ads today [19-Dec-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You're welcome, as you can see, I have bills to pay [19-Dec-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it's nice seeing my new buildings printing off PSM/DCM and making wafers and transistors [19-Dec-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: was getting tired of all the low tier stuff [19-Dec-21 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'd like some waffles too [19-Dec-21 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you got any cap? [19-Dec-21 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no, just SWF and TRN for now [19-Dec-21 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: have to see if that output even meets my demand [19-Dec-21 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: [19-Dec-21 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: betsy built her last BSE and is no more [19-Dec-21 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: she has returned to the bosom of katoa forever [19-Dec-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: with all my odds and ends of employees i'm seriously considering the oddball housing units to see if i can free up just enough space for another building [19-Dec-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: what building you wanna make? :) [19-Dec-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it'd have to be small, so maybe another PPF? got some extra PG floating around [19-Dec-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you mentioned you want to build something more exotic [19-Dec-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah this is all security drone chain [19-Dec-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: ppf is tiny might work and housing issues are not that bad if is just a small percentage [19-Dec-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: mostly made here on katoa with the actual drone shop and an ECA on prox [19-Dec-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: heh, I decided I'm going right for shipbuilding, no MM milking [19-Dec-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i just wanted to set up a complicated chain that needed some advanced manu [19-Dec-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the fact that there's an mm to milk just gives me a reason to actually do it [19-Dec-21 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'll just build a big cargo ship [19-Dec-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: keep me on your sales list :) [19-Dec-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: still very far missing the sci buildings spf, sl [19-Dec-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: drones look like good money to the MM, but the build is really expensive, so the profits aren't as huge as they seem [19-Dec-21 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but i should have little odds and ends overflowing, so i'll have some weird stuff to throw at the cx [19-Dec-21 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: the parts rarely sell tbh [19-Dec-21 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i know [19-Dec-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: the part I didn't manage to figure out is making the cargo bays [19-Dec-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: costs lot of licenses alo, tio, asm's and eek, just have no more space [19-Dec-21 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: talk to neke, he's looking for a project ^^ [19-Dec-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm also terribly poor [19-Dec-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i have a feeling once i source some afabs i'll be pushing myself back into poor territory, at least until that sweet drone money starts coming in [19-Dec-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: never tried buying them but they're prob quite overpriced [19-Dec-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: was going to build a pp4 on deimos but i can't even get the techs for my pp3s so nvm. i don't need that many [19-Dec-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: go to gibson we have decent tech growth now [19-Dec-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: deimos is a shithole [19-Dec-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i very well might. i need the AL though [19-Dec-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but i might leave deimos as purely an AL/GL producer and take everything else off [19-Dec-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: we have a mine on KW-358b if you're willing to import [19-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll think about it. the 1d+ one-way flight time to deimos sucks pretty bad too [19-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: not to mention constantly having to find things to sell to keep some AIC in the coffers [19-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I was doing AL there also but isn't sustainable had to demolish [19-Dec-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: we can probably charge a better price for the alo if it would stimulate growth in the region but not sure it would work [19-Dec-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you think that would work? [19-Dec-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: not sure, have to get through this phase of construction and reassess, rn i have a FS on deimos that's pretty crucial to the bottom of the chain [19-Dec-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so once everything's up and running i can figure out how i can move a base and keep everything going [19-Dec-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm overproducing from the FS, so i should be able to handle some down time in a couple weeks [19-Dec-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm a bit thinking about regional developement if a closer source of alo would help [19-Dec-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boombow85** left.* [19-Dec-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: but yeah everyone has different plans and with license restrictions is even worse [19-Dec-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Felix3Lindo** joined.* [19-Dec-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i just put a bunch of fabs and some mcg down for a PAR for katoa [19-Dec-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: anyone wanting tech growth, pls consider contributing [19-Dec-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and any chemists interested in supplying PFE/SOI pls contact me [19-Dec-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: if you manage to find a BRM supplier I can help but my mine is too far [19-Dec-21 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i can probably sneak in the DEC production weekly, but will need help with the rest of it. if the good people of katoa see fit to elect me governor i will do my best to get the project funded and sources sustainably [19-Dec-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i see a new spreadsheet or three in my near future [19-Dec-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neofook** joined.* [19-Dec-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: korbin not coming back? [19-Dec-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: he's been awol for a bit. if he comes back and wants the job, i can step back. but i've been encouraged to run esp since he's gone [19-Dec-21 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i told korbin when danx left the position that eventually i'd probably run against him anyway, so maybe now's just the time :) [19-Dec-21 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: you got my vote derelict [19-Dec-21 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty, my door is always open, feel free to dm me here or on discord to chat about the future of katoa and how we all fit in the plans [19-Dec-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: where cna i find the discord link? [19-Dec-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: This is the link for the UFO server: https://discord.gg/Rn74Uq6A [19-Dec-21 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: You'll have to type something like this to join the Katoa channels: !join katoa [19-Dec-21 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Who wants Nitrogen? [19-Dec-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dumping into the CX in ~28 minutes [19-Dec-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pokter** left.* [19-Dec-21 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: couple ads up for C if anyone's got some to sell locally [19-Dec-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also some SIO [19-Dec-21 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: start changing around all your base production and all of a sudden your logistics go to hell ;) [19-Dec-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You need SIO now? [19-Dec-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah need a banzai run to deimos to pick up FS outputs, running out of SIO there [19-Dec-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 100 on EW, and there is 200 more here I could procure [19-Dec-21 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: avg cost across all 300 would be ~43 [19-Dec-21 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ur havin a laugh if you think I have space to fly SIO though :P [19-Dec-21 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: well i put an offer on LM at 100/u because i'm impatient [19-Dec-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sneak 40 units down, but not in the near term [19-Dec-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i call it 'veruca salt' pricing, because 'i want it now' [19-Dec-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll check back with you [19-Dec-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: for longer term, yeah, i'll but some SIO from you. i don't go through it all that fast, it's mostly for making GL [19-Dec-21 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't make it anymore it wasn't worth it, but it's regularly on the EW LM @ 40/u [19-Dec-21 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So I can easily bring it back for you [19-Dec-21 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2 days and I'll be running a dedicated KAT<>EW route [19-Dec-21 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i could probably buy it on the deimos lm, but then i'd have to change more shiny CIS for dirty martian coin [19-Dec-21 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and yeah, go ahead and mark it up however much makes it worth your while and i'll buy some off you [19-Dec-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***atflac** left.* [19-Dec-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thx opie! [19-Dec-21 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: πŸ‘Œ [19-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from Ben cx to katoa on katoa lm [19-Dec-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ScarletBlue** left.* [20-Dec-21 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trajos** left.* [20-Dec-21 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dneirf** left.* [20-Dec-21 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EternusTheWizard** joined.* [20-Dec-21 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExplodingPigeons** joined.* [20-Dec-21 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolguy_gaming** joined.* [20-Dec-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raxton** joined.* [20-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xDaer** joined.* [20-Dec-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: welcome new katoans! [20-Dec-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: put up a loose unit of SI @derelict [20-Dec-21 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AsherKetchup** joined.* [20-Dec-21 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone flying from the station to Katoa in the immediate future? [20-Dec-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: got it, thanks! [20-Dec-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: any chemists out there making SOI or PFE with output to spare? contact me for short and long term opportunities [20-Dec-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: uhh... oops [20-Dec-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ad up to buy 100 H lol [20-Dec-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: at 110/u [20-Dec-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: <-- dummy sent ships to bases in the wrong order [20-Dec-21 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zekrysis** joined.* [20-Dec-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VerdeV** joined.* [20-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @derelict - I have some SOI production in process on Kiruna - how much are you looking for? [20-Dec-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marckt** joined.* [20-Dec-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: trying to kickstart a PAR [20-Dec-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and get pricing for future upkeep [20-Dec-21 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i think tonight i'm going to start a spreadsheet for planetary budgeting and contract bookkeeping. whether i win or lose election, i think it'll be a fun exercise [20-Dec-21 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to vallis on katoa lm. [21-Dec-21 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hazelfish** left.* [21-Dec-21 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: anyone need something moved from moria to katoa? [21-Dec-21 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: I have about 400m3 and 400t [21-Dec-21 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: of space left [21-Dec-21 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProsperityOmnis** joined.* [21-Dec-21 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ag products for C listed on the LM at a discount to the CX ask. Enough for 108 units of C :) [21-Dec-21 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Who bought 1/3 of the recipe and left the rest! [21-Dec-21 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @pantalaimon *shakes fist* [21-Dec-21 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Oh sorry, didn't know it was for a special client. Just browsed the LM. [21-Dec-21 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I can replace it at the LM if needed. [21-Dec-21 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jiricz** joined.* [21-Dec-21 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***monoplay** joined.* [21-Dec-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: If you've got a ship idling, I have ads for full loads from CH-115b to Katoa. They're priced at 10k CIS which should give the shipper around 3k CIS profit. [21-Dec-21 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***randomperson** joined.* [21-Dec-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @derelict - happy to help with the PAR - I can look at resuming some HAB production in the next several days potentially to convert some of the SOI into those for delivery. Let me know if you think you would be interested and I'll start picking up the b-fabs that would be needed for that project [21-Dec-21 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pepando1199** joined.* [21-Dec-21 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Does anybody produce some SEN and PCB? I would like to make some HSS to test the market for the next level of natural grown Space Suits. [21-Dec-21 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: how much do you need [21-Dec-21 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capt.Jurislav** joined.* [21-Dec-21 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Inzaghini** joined.* [21-Dec-21 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I need 5 each for a production run. So 50 each would be nice [21-Dec-21 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***idontknow321** joined.* [21-Dec-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Engee** joined.* [21-Dec-21 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sam6483993** joined.* [21-Dec-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***poukerman** joined.* [21-Dec-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm starting to make both but i don't think i'll have excess for a while; it'll take a bit just to fill in my techs to get up to speed [21-Dec-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToHynt** joined.* [21-Dec-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***toniku.** joined.* [21-Dec-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RokyiuSs** joined.* [21-Dec-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AdictNTB** joined.* [21-Dec-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I can sell 50 out of 216 SEN but I need to keep my 57 PCBs [21-Dec-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: 1 PCB 1 SEN is such an odd ratio [21-Dec-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: or was it 5:5 [21-Dec-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Necky** joined.* [21-Dec-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vatar** joined.* [21-Dec-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueOri** joined.* [21-Dec-21 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***swordcz** joined.* [21-Dec-21 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bury_05** joined.* [21-Dec-21 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wum239** joined.* [21-Dec-21 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tonicz** joined.* [21-Dec-21 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***poetka** joined.* [21-Dec-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bester** joined.* [21-Dec-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paladinasd** joined.* [21-Dec-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bambus** joined.* [21-Dec-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***patrik00** joined.* [21-Dec-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lachtron** left.* [21-Dec-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xmanek** joined.* [21-Dec-21 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Yes it is 5 SEn, 5 PCB and 5 NL and 1 BLE. [21-Dec-21 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Oh and welcome new Katoanians [21-Dec-21 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: Lots of new katoian's [21-Dec-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you'll have my vote also @derelict but have in mind we should try stimulate the AL industry also, I think BEN region has some potential and we can contribute also by helping with some cheaper alo [21-Dec-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilusion** joined.* [21-Dec-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill be doing AL soon, half way saved up for new base in ementior [21-Dec-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: will susidize an alo mine here to sell for 40-ish ore [21-Dec-21 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’d be a consumer of that :) [21-Dec-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: new player here! joined yesterday and just found the planet chat [21-Dec-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: how goes it fellow katoans? anything I need to be aware of here? [21-Dec-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: or any tips in general for a newcomer? [21-Dec-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: hi [21-Dec-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: don't get bankrupt :) [21-Dec-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: lol I'm trying to make sure of that. just had one of my trade ships go pick up materials for a rig to get some water [21-Dec-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: between that and enough supplies for the next 10 days for my workers I've still have a bit of starting cash [21-Dec-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: tempted to convert all my extra currency to cis though [21-Dec-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: what currency do you currently have [21-Dec-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: 11k CIS and 1k of the rest [21-Dec-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: except ECD, I've got none of that [21-Dec-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: not rly worth to bother convert that, FX trades work with multiple of 1k and there's tax so better don't bother [21-Dec-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: gotcha [21-Dec-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: make consumables at first and then diversify best strategy [21-Dec-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: dw/rat, just my two penny [21-Dec-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: sounds good, I did the carbon farmer start so I've got that set up but it won't be much of an issue to change over to making consumables [21-Dec-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: umbra is buying tons of C [21-Dec-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: well that works in my favor, won't have anything to sell for a couple of days though [21-Dec-21 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FoxCorp** left.* [21-Dec-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @Zekrysis - I wouldn't worry about a RIG on Katoa - you'll end up spending more on the DW, RAT, and OVE for those pioneer jobs than if you just buy with the relatively low prices as well. I also summon our local water sprite that loves to help newcomers - @neke86! [21-Dec-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: With a new player wave, those prices may spike temporarily, but if you can stock up for <20 per H2O, you'll be saving in the long run [21-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I would focus on farming a bit and FPs for RAT / DW production until you can afford to consider a second base with your extra permit. At that point, you have to make a decision (if you stay with victualler package) between a base on Proxion for the amazing fertility and much better crop growing or potentially venturing out further to KW-688c (Etherwind) for the best local H2O tap around :) [21-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If there has been a new wave I can start reserving a bit more clear gold here on the planet :) [21-Dec-21 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: what would you recommend a relatively safe market to branch out into once I start to get going? [21-Dec-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa is a bit of a generalist planet unfortunately so that's a bit hard to say, as the answer is "depends" and "evertything is a bit average" for quite some time [21-Dec-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But if you're buying water cheaply off someone like me on the LM, or via the CX, then your C-farming package is an okay start. +1 do yourself a favour, invest in an FP to grind out your own DW/RAT - even if it isnt enough, its a good subsidy [21-Dec-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Then you could look at manufacturing, but that's heavily saturated at the moment I think [21-Dec-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: sounds good, I'm checking through the exchanges and seeing some of the early products are selling for and the demand for them [21-Dec-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: bashed together a quick profit calculator in python to quickly compare profits for the trade runs [21-Dec-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nice [21-Dec-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well look, at the end of the day, the FRM products have a market maker, that is, a fixed price minimum - it's not great, but it guarantees something [21-Dec-21 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: sounds good, will stick to that for a while then before branching out [21-Dec-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone like 15,000 PE? [21-Dec-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for 3.60 [21-Dec-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (per unit) [22-Dec-21 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to vallis on LM. [22-Dec-21 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: @Doc ty for the help offer on the PAR, i'll hit you on discord to discuss. [22-Dec-21 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: my fellow Katoans, election time is almost upon us. with an absentee governor and the future of katoa in the balance, i have accepted the challenge of running for governor with a firm resolve for the betterment of all katoans. [22-Dec-21 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i will prioritize transparent bookkeeping of our planet's tax revenues and orchestrating long term non-preferential auctioned contracts for sustainable infrastructure upkeep and growth [22-Dec-21 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why? [22-Dec-21 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I benefitted more from regular corruption [22-Dec-21 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: neke, neke. bribes and backroom deals are to be handled through dm, preferably discord. [22-Dec-21 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh sh*t I thought this was dm [22-Dec-21 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but seriously, the transition from an mia governor to a new regime will be particularly difficult as there will be little to no knowledge transfer and the coffers of katoa will restart from 0. first order of business is to make this knowledge public and create a planetary budget. [22-Dec-21 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: unless a convincing argument is posed to the contrary, i intend to keep taxes flat across industries, and assess the amount charged based on income and budget requirements. [22-Dec-21 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: all upkeep contracts will be for regular weekly amounts and assigned by auction. build contracts will be one-time auctions. new infrastructure will be vetted on discord before being committed to planetary budget for both build and upkeep. [22-Dec-21 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if this sounds like a reasonable platform and you'd like a representative both willing and able to see it through, vote for @derelict. when the polls open in 36h. [22-Dec-21 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cvoo** joined.* [22-Dec-21 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone have any H2O that theyd wanna sell? [22-Dec-21 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 1 Vote for sale, 50,000.................... hehe [22-Dec-21 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Martino_C** joined.* [22-Dec-21 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I think I'm terrible at this game. I can't even feed my people anymore *sweats* [22-Dec-21 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rakvinator** joined.* [22-Dec-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MartinTebenko** joined.* [22-Dec-21 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you need some RAT? [22-Dec-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marckt** left.* [22-Dec-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonflame8621** left.* [22-Dec-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marckt** joined.* [22-Dec-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyx_Zekhresaskue** joined.* [22-Dec-21 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TomMorano** left.* [22-Dec-21 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: Ok so we did some plans for the ALO mine and we will expand it and probably next popr there will be enough population to work at full capacity. The price we will keep fluctuating depending on consumables but at around 70 days ROI. I still need to cook a few HSE but once done she will expand the mine and put ads up for sale on KW-358b for ALO at around 17k / haul or ~45/u [22-Dec-21 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: If all goes well and demand is present it's possible we could expand it more but since most of the initial investment is supported by me it will have to be over time. If justified could even build a cogc there to drop price further but that depends on demand ofc. [22-Dec-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: this planet is literally an island for me [22-Dec-21 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I never interact with the local people [22-Dec-21 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I bring everything from montem [22-Dec-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I came for the techs [22-Dec-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: because at the time no planet had an free ones [22-Dec-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: funnily enough this is my most expensive base worth 1.2 million NCC [22-Dec-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: think only my APF is worth that :) [22-Dec-21 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: BEN area is plagued a bit from developement because of lack of ALO deposits, most people here sourced industry in other areas [22-Dec-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and Moria has far better developed industrial and economic capacit [22-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I am thinking of dropping a PP2 base on Celebdil because our corp is at least a 1100 L-FABs behind [22-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: at least that is the number of unfilled orders as of now [22-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: there is no way your puny AL resereves can keep up with that [22-Dec-21 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: well once people get over the HQ upgrades with L-fabs things change a bit, I am trying to develop populations on HAL worlds around :| [22-Dec-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: the L-fabs requirement after that is minimal unless you spamm SD's or LAB's to get tech pops up and breed engineers [22-Dec-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: why? [22-Dec-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: the HAL thing I mean [22-Dec-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I need more epo got only 10-ish POL's on it and is not enough [22-Dec-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExplodingPigeons** left.* [22-Dec-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: thank god all I do is make TCL [22-Dec-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I bring HAL to Montem where I turn it into CL which I then bring to Katoa [22-Dec-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: umbra is quite good chm planet but epo is a killer [22-Dec-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: it works because I only need 6 per day [22-Dec-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: :D [22-Dec-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I have theoretical plans that involve filling Umbra with PP3s to make 1k INS per day [22-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm trying to JS-601c but I think I should just put the popi up [22-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: do it on Gibson, Umbra is something else [22-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: then I go back to to Hortus and colonize 1 planets that only need INS [22-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: 2 [22-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I had bases in deimos and around moria also, demolished them [22-Dec-21 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: it's absolutely insane right now to keep so many bases supplied so far [22-Dec-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: the "islands" become loose ends but I am very close to ftl shipbuilding so one way or another it will be better [22-Dec-21 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I will invest 2k INS in that ALO planet here 2 jumps away but uff [22-Dec-21 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: main reason is that would like to attract and stimulate the higher population tiers growth and I really don't want to just spam myself empty buildings I won't ever use to bring pop up cause it's not efficient [22-Dec-21 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: on gibson for example ran my pp3's for months on just few techs until pop got to a point of growth potential [22-Dec-21 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: with enough open jobs we can have a population of wabbits [22-Dec-21 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: the tax system in this game is so bad [22-Dec-21 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: there is no incentive for anoyne to be the first mover [22-Dec-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I'm not complaining but the tech pop was declining before I came here [22-Dec-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: now that techs are high, people put ENGI buildings here [22-Dec-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: and one day there will be SCIs [22-Dec-21 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: :D [22-Dec-21 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I just opened a few hundred jobs also for both techs and eng but I have no hb4 [22-Dec-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I still remember getting really bad tech reports because of bad timing [22-Dec-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T04D** joined.* [22-Dec-21 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: local ALO sounds wonderful. and tell me about bad timing, my last few high tier expansions have all been a day or two _after_ last popr; i don't think i've been fully staffed across all bases since i started employing techs months ago [22-Dec-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in ~5h i'll finally start producing SAR [22-Dec-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: nice, grats [22-Dec-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T04D** left.* [22-Dec-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PSA: For Katoans with access to the LM (sorry everyone else) I am going to try maintaining a simple, proportioned offering of CONS, enough for 1,000 PIO for 7 days. I'll re-assess pricing every time an order is filled and I replace it - goal is to have a permanent reliable place on the LM for locals to shop at CX or better. [22-Dec-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you wish to buy larger or smaller orders in balanced proportions, hit me up in DMs or Discord. Pricing is flexible if you sell what I happen to need! [22-Dec-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tristanvds** joined.* [22-Dec-21 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: massive amounts of H available on LM CB-282d! 3 shiploads up for grabs, a 4th available in ~24h [22-Dec-21 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm starting to work out a budget and will be contacting upkeep item providers to discuss pricing as well as planetary governors to discuss auction strategies -- so remember to vote when the polls open in a few hours! a vote for derelict is a vote for long term katoan livelihood! [23-Dec-21 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: ad for 100 H @ 100 on LM if someone doesn't mind filling [23-Dec-21 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Miracle4you7 are you meaning to post all those contracts in AIC? That's going to trip people up.. [23-Dec-21 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone online with a spare ship, want to make 10k? [23-Dec-21 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainAutismn** left.* [23-Dec-21 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spunkyghost** joined.* [23-Dec-21 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @derelict - Thanks for the pre-work to get everything set up to hopefully have a good initial launch of your dictatorship. [23-Dec-21 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: oops....governorship :) [23-Dec-21 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: You'll have the support of all KAWA members on Katoa - let us know if you need any initial donations or other support :) [23-Dec-21 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jmi** joined.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VAChlumy** joined.* [23-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the election is officially upon us! i strongly encourage a vote for derelict. -- which currenly appears to be the only option :P if anyone else has the cojones to take on a flailing large planet government with no savings and no contracts, feel free to jump in! [23-Dec-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i am rounding up our current infrastructure expenses and making a plan for public bid auction on upkeep supply. all planetary budget, including contracted amounts and prices, shall be public knowledge -- so if you don't want anyone to know about your government contracts or pricing, don't bid :) i'd like us to finish a PAR in the near term future, but more importantly we need to get a handle on our planet's income and expenses and ensure our needed infrastructure is supported. [23-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: voted for you [23-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! i'll do my best to be worthy of your support. [23-Dec-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to Mor CX on LM [23-Dec-21 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Voted. Where do i get my badge :)? [23-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that feeling when you realize your spreadsheet is getting complicated enough you might just write a database-backed app for it instead :P [23-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: planetary governance is hard [23-Dec-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: esp if you want thorough ledger/contract bookkeeping [23-Dec-21 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thankfully i have several days off for the holidays, so good timing :) [23-Dec-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: have you allocated the "send Karr to ementior" funds? heheheh [23-Dec-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: her\h [23-Dec-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: new player rush-you know what that means? Prefab price rush! [23-Dec-21 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: nice, i've got my prefabs ready to go [23-Dec-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [23-Dec-21 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T04D** joined.* [23-Dec-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HansFlamme** joined.* [23-Dec-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i can feel the spike in consumable pricing starting already [23-Dec-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: anyone selling bulk rfabs at reasonable prices? i make them myself, just veeeeerrry slooooooowwwlly [23-Dec-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: got big plans for proxion, and about 40 rfabs to make to enact them [23-Dec-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I know of Corlis, Daemeus and me who make them. Unfortunately I might not have too much spare at the moment. I think Corlis has some spare capacity though. [23-Dec-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll reach out, i need to talk to him anyway. thx for the heads up :) [23-Dec-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: np :) [23-Dec-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and don't forget to vote! [23-Dec-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: kind of a sham election with only one candidate, but still ;) [23-Dec-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Doing the Gov job properly is tons of work. Huge respect about that [23-Dec-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah it's going to be extra brutal especially to start [23-Dec-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: alright, have to go now though [23-Dec-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I make few r-fabs also, a-fabs and hse/tsh but yeah it's really slow [23-Dec-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: need mostly RDE, which i have all the supplies to make, it just takes forever. going to front load them though and stop making INS for a while to shave off a few [23-Dec-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: how many? [23-Dec-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: how many rde you still need to cook? [23-Dec-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 16 [23-Dec-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and 10 RSE and 12 RBH [23-Dec-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: got plenty of RTA though! [23-Dec-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: uff, that's lot :P [23-Dec-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah. i'll get there but it's going to take a couple weeks i think [23-Dec-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: at least [23-Dec-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I can do your RDE in a day if you bring the mats on gibson [23-Dec-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and pay for usage of pp3's for a day :P [23-Dec-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: more than that I can't spare cause I need to make a bunch of HSE/INS [23-Dec-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's an excellent offer, i will prob take you up on that, got some fresh KV about to be ready here on Katoa and that should be enough [23-Dec-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oh, it may only be enough for 10. but even that would be a huge help [23-Dec-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: sure I got 4 pp3's so should be fast [23-Dec-21 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm still understaffed for techs for my 2 pp3 on deimos :( [23-Dec-21 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: maybe time to relocate like you soon [23-Dec-21 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: screw deimos, join gibson :p [23-Dec-21 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: 160% is sweet especially making INS, R-fabs [23-Dec-21 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah no kidding. maybe i'll do like i said and just leave smelters, gf, and fs on deimos and move all construction to gibson [23-Dec-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: maybe double down with a smelter or two on gibson for FE specifically [23-Dec-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: will struggle with stuff for a while if people overbuild but in few weeks it can grow fast with enough open jobs [23-Dec-21 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: FE lol :P [23-Dec-21 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm at least a month out from relocating probably. i mean, i have a spare permit so maybe i could just slowly build up there and transition over time [23-Dec-21 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i need those SFK lol [23-Dec-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: we expanded to 10 mines on KW-358b so will have some ALO flowing but she's at 74% atm so will take next popr at least [23-Dec-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and we have some internal needs also which will come first :) [23-Dec-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: feo industry is just so expensive and kinda useless since alo has great versatility [23-Dec-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: but with new wave of players it might be profitable for a while until they run out of money :D [23-Dec-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah i just need a trickle for FS via FE and STL [23-Dec-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: since there's FEO on gibson i might consider a PP1 or two just to pump out bfabs for repairs and such; most bfabs are still cheaper to make in pp1 than pp2 [23-Dec-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but my primary push for metal will def be AL [23-Dec-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: need a little CU and AU occasionally too [23-Dec-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: cuo is an issue [23-Dec-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and I need some F, any chance you know someone who has a mine? [23-Dec-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oof no, i haven't dealt with that at all [23-Dec-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I'm off to bed, fly safe but not too safe :P [23-Dec-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: roger that [23-Dec-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: Does anyone have the table that has the amount of material required for upgrading the HQ for each level? [23-Dec-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ wait it was in my browser history {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [23-Dec-21 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WGibby** joined.* [23-Dec-21 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: LM UV-351d πŸ‘€ -- good price on AMM and ridiculously cheap N by the shipload right here in benten system :) [23-Dec-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also LM CB-282d πŸ‘€ -- still a couple shiploads of H for the taking [23-Dec-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone need shipping BEN > KAT? [23-Dec-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***exhausted.t.cell** joined.* [23-Dec-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also huge thanks to the 33 folks who have voted for a sane and sustainable π—±π—²π—―π—Ώπ—Άπ˜€β„’ brand katoan governance [23-Dec-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pleasure [23-Dec-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Now that I've voted, where's my slice of cake? [23-Dec-21 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On Benten-D in the form of 500 cubic metres of nitrogen [23-Dec-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: 500 cubic metres? How am I supposed to eat that all? Hahaha [23-Dec-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ^_^ [23-Dec-21 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I don't own a base there so I'll have to pass [23-Dec-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonate** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***derSchotte** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kingpuppywubby** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Natdog942** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: 2 full load cargo from katoa to Ben cx on lm [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TommyD** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user302e78bf25** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BotMatrix** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrOak** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9ad9a59f85** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RareRiot** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eusthenopterfan** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Musdasch** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user245c1b0a2b** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TycoonLover** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Satney117** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SergeiG** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***darthhiggy** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Penca53** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sarca92** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShovelTime** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user132fe575a4** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user183814cb72** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere74dc32011** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user73b24b0627** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4aa01fe4d1** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user969eeb08be** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user58f7a83d6d** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user83bd3b7002** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3952fd65d** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf1077f8991** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera7c381fbba** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae463e8b95** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercde702fa96** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd04a593251** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0e6899573d** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac7195927d** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usereb802906c8** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BiddYapper190044** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CryVelibe** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8eb506f858** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0061978ed1** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user010ad59212** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user648ad7db98** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user99af561759** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8295c473a6** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TBoneJenks** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CatfaceKillah** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SomethingClever** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mjnk** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TokAlper** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mrpal** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user62683885ba** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user09b1e0676c** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usered45e5fead** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0b64aa761a** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user69e488705b** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user18ee79bcbb** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa8b847fda** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56e42ff770** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5c283be2a3** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9b5de7a181** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5113a62924** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userad0287c33e** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae7e854644** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9c8635cf53** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb95d8c4487** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3e9d69bcc7** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraea741af25** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2b7f1464f6** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2e166309dc** left.* [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: exodus. movement of jah people. [23-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: wonder what that purge was about, maybe an early inactive purge freeing up space for new folks? [23-Dec-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: clearing up the servers? 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[23-Dec-21 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah, a sorcerer named @molp [23-Dec-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I have a lot of space going to ben cx, how do I offer it to people in case they need to bring something there? [23-Dec-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I have to buy some more commodities *sweat* [23-Dec-21 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you just post about it here [23-Dec-21 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: there's no system for advertising it [24-Dec-21 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kingway888** left.* [24-Dec-21 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***z3dds** left.* [24-Dec-21 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can anyone drop me 4 or 5 BTA? [24-Dec-21 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: BTA is like the one thing i never have on hand [24-Dec-21 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: got 46 BSE if anyone needs 'em [24-Dec-21 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dang it [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I left 5 BTA at the station so [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: grr [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: everything else I bought is worthless :P [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah. at least it's not like 1 TRU [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: or 5 MCG [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: true [24-Dec-21 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i had a couple times where i would have paid like 10k for a single TRU [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I mean [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd pay 10k for 5 BTA right now [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _right now_ [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: put up an ad [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no cos by tomorrow I wont need it [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: there are def folks who don't read chat but wouldn't pass up that deal [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hmm [24-Dec-21 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: risky [24-Dec-21 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Station is only a few hours away, I'll just fly [24-Dec-21 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: what's the worst case scenario? you're out 6k? [24-Dec-21 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sure [24-Dec-21 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Want anything sent to the station? [24-Dec-21 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: has to be tough, it's going to sit under a lot of g's [24-Dec-21 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol. nope got 2 ships at the station right now. longest downtime in a while, i literally don't have an immediate job for them [24-Dec-21 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that will change soon though. gotta unload a bunch of stuff from proxion and build that sto on ben-d [24-Dec-21 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Due to my shipping congestion, I have 24 idle FPs on Katoa [24-Dec-21 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *facepalm* [24-Dec-21 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oops, what do you need to get them going [24-Dec-21 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: eh all good, my products from Prox will arrive eventually [24-Dec-21 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MCFCguy** joined.* [24-Dec-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaracoCosmico** left.* [24-Dec-21 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Im trying to unload gal at a other CX that has some demand and zero supply except my own but no one wants to buy it at what i have it listed for. I wont make money if I go down anymore but I may have to. [24-Dec-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaliDualGoddess** joined.* [24-Dec-21 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdc5644aa6c** left.* [24-Dec-21 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that's unfortunate. yeah GAL is so heavy it's almost impossible to make a profit on it for the volume you can actually carry to another CX [24-Dec-21 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baxenthor** joined.* [24-Dec-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I'm so broke. Ugh lol I dont even have enough CIS to post on the LM. Jfc. hahah [24-Dec-21 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: do you need help? [24-Dec-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: katoans -- in the interest of keeping our CoGC running i encourage anyone with the means to contribute to upkeep. it's due in 3 days and we need a lot of it filled; unfortunately we are not in a position to fill the need from the planet's coffers, as we currently have no funds and even if i am elected governor i will have no tax money at my disposal until next collection cycle. in the meantime, please help if you can. [24-Dec-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: COGCU UV-351a [24-Dec-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: similarly for POPI upkeeps. if i am elected, i will immediately be attempting to secure long term contracts for these items, but for now we have no one at the helm and no provisions for these upkeeps; missing the upkeeps will damage our population health, and it will take a while to recover. i am calling on anyone who can to help. i can sacrifice some personal funds if anyone has the harder to obtain items and needs compensation, but i can't afford much on my own. [24-Dec-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: feel free to contact me directly in game or on discord at any time. [24-Dec-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: tyvm to daemeus for giving us a huge leg up. anyone with some MCG to spare pls consider contributing [24-Dec-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: we also need 90 OFF, 60 SUN, 100 TUB, 10 STR, and ~550 DW to flesh out POPI upkeep in the next 2d 13h. we can store some overage for POPI upkeep, so if you have any of these items please contribute to the SST or INF. the PAR can wait; right now we need our current obligations under control. [24-Dec-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i have personally procured the OFF, SUN, and TUB from CX, however additional contributions are welcome. we still need 7 STR and the 550 DW. [24-Dec-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll try and get the DW mate [24-Dec-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I've put a bit more DW in, we are good for 12 days now [24-Dec-21 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty gang, it's going to be a bit of a crunch for a bit until we get some tax money in the coffers. [25-Dec-21 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Galexia** left.* [25-Dec-21 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hussien1975** joined.* [25-Dec-21 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Danzel** joined.* [25-Dec-21 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Danzel** left.* [25-Dec-21 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShamTraX** joined.* [25-Dec-21 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MYGYTAM** joined.* [25-Dec-21 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MYGYTAM** left.* [25-Dec-21 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShamTraX** left.* [25-Dec-21 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Hi all [25-Dec-21 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Hi! [25-Dec-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***0Simone0** left.* [25-Dec-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alkin_11** joined.* [25-Dec-21 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: special christmas deal! 500 H @ 68/u at LM CB-282d. come and get it! [25-Dec-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: happy to announce you that our mine on KW-358b is operational and she put one ALO cargo load on LM [25-Dec-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Associator** left.* [25-Dec-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh wow, it’s actually happening! [25-Dec-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: im quite new so i am gonna be honest i have no idea what is happening, but nice! :D [25-Dec-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: ofc think the popr will be in few hrs also and I am saving for a cogc if we will actually need it [25-Dec-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I got a HAL mine also if there would be some interest [25-Dec-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is this ALO just heading for the CX to saturate and give local building a go? [25-Dec-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Maybe I could do similar on 358c for FEO? [25-Dec-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you have a base there? feo's not worth it tbh [25-Dec-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I got JS-601c if you want to buy feo lol [25-Dec-21 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: Is there a way to search for rss by proximity or something? or just click around until i find a system with the stuff i need ? :O [25-Dec-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you can use FIO [25-Dec-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: Says illegal command :( [25-Dec-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: FIO is an external tool developed by Saganaki [25-Dec-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: ahh okay thx ill try to find it [25-Dec-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: it has some function where you can look for contracts and sort [25-Dec-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: yes found it, thank you :) [25-Dec-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: yw [25-Dec-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: when deconstructing a structure do you get all resources back from it? [25-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: only a portion [25-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: how much of a portion? [25-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: depends how long it has been standing, it tells you before you do it though [25-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: wanting to relocate to proxion and start a large farming op [25-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: takes forever to farm on katoa [25-Dec-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Join ,e [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: e? [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: setting up my 24th Proxion FRM today [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: me* [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: tempted, will have to deconstruct everything then make a new base [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You've only been playing 5 days [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: yup [25-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COLIQ and start fresh on Proxion [25-Dec-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: COLIQ? [25-Dec-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: liquidate command [25-Dec-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: restart button [25-Dec-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: ah gotcha [25-Dec-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's perfectly normal [25-Dec-21 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10x better than demo and move [25-Dec-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: sounds good, initially wanted to turn this base into a fuel farm [25-Dec-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: but it would take too long to build the capital at this rate [25-Dec-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COLIQ is your friend [25-Dec-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: sounds good [25-Dec-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: see you in a few weeks katoa [25-Dec-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zekrysis**: o7 [25-Dec-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zekrysis** left.* [25-Dec-21 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sadsack123** joined.* [26-Dec-21 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Random3141** joined.* [26-Dec-21 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***morgo1181** left.* [26-Dec-21 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eltrekar** joined.* [26-Dec-21 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: anyone have 2 BBH to sell? posted an ad on the LM at "Need It Now" pricing [26-Dec-21 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: oh man, I actually need 8. How did I screw that up? [26-Dec-21 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: Filled. [26-Dec-21 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neerio** left.* [26-Dec-21 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: thank you! [26-Dec-21 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: My pleasure. Always happy to take "Need It Now" prices (and I usually have B, L, and some R fabs available). [26-Dec-21 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone have 7 BSE's available? I'll be willing to pay them back, plus whichever other item you'll want from the PP1 (BBH, BDE, BSE, BTA). I don't have near anything to pay, hence why I'll fulfill giving you back an extra construction prefab. I need to build another rig for H2O production. My people are mad at me. [26-Dec-21 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Send me a PM if the deal sounds good for you, please. [26-Dec-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Connorw600** joined.* [26-Dec-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Time to think about the next base. 1000 Area is full and now begins the big question what next? :) [26-Dec-21 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T04D** left.* [26-Dec-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Tough question to answer! What’s your base doing now? We haven’t traded in a while so I don’t know [26-Dec-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Miracle there’s a lot of cheap water around, making your own rig is preeeetty inefficient [26-Dec-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: @neke86, I don't have even enough CIS to buy DW unfortunately. [26-Dec-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cos you spent how much on a RIG?? [26-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have put some ads for BTA up, again I'm short them [26-Dec-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not sure how that keeps happening [26-Dec-21 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 300tm3 available for KAT > BEN. Departs when full. [26-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty @BlueHeeler and @Pantalaimon for the MCG for CoGC! i've been kinda busy the last couple days so i didn't notice the contributions. i'm going to start a fundraising drive shortly with 'golden water' (single DW for exorbitant prices) and keep the fundraiser profits in the planetary ledger for purchasing upkeep items. hopefully after a cycle or two taxes will have our expenses covered but since we're starting from literally no savings it's going to be a rocky start [26-Dec-21 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also thanks to all katoans who have voted for derelict. in the gubernatorial election! i will work hard to ensure your support is well deserved. as things stand now, i am operating under the assumption that i will be elected, however if someone else gets the job any efforts i put towards planetary fundraising or upkeep collection will be transferred to the new governor upon their term start. [26-Dec-21 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sorry for the LM flood. if you'd rather your donation be in a different currency lmk and i can put up a fundraiser ad in the currency of your choice. i will be tracking all contributions by player and amount, and if possible i will hold a lottery based on contribution amount for an as-yet-undetermined prize at the end of my term. [26-Dec-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 5 @ 5000, 5 @ 10000, 5 @ 25000 for a total of 200k in golden water fundraising. let's see if we can kickstart katoa's coffers! [26-Dec-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 50k done [26-Dec-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I expect serious preferential treatment [26-Dec-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: lol you now have 25% of the possible lottery votes :) [26-Dec-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thinking about a stash of lfabs [26-Dec-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but will probably put it up for discussion on discord before making any decisions [26-Dec-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: you've got my first two income ledger entries though! [26-Dec-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ^_^ [26-Dec-21 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yay! katoa now has 80k in the coffers [26-Dec-21 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [27-Dec-21 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GROX69** left.* [27-Dec-21 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrylixGG** joined.* [27-Dec-21 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I have lots of space if anyone needs anything from BEN [27-Dec-21 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Done my donation. [27-Dec-21 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @neke86 My base are mainly producing BMP and Chemical stuff. I think the next one will be Pyrgos to get reliable Agri stuff [27-Dec-21 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ggrr when you take multiple shipments contracts and one doesnt auto provision [27-Dec-21 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and its ALWAYS the smallest one [27-Dec-21 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magniloquence** left.* [27-Dec-21 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Firespray_Industries** left.* [27-Dec-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eltrekar** left.* [27-Dec-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***justZach** left.* [27-Dec-21 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Anyone able to sell 2 RAT? [27-Dec-21 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I'll pay 57CIS for each if possible! [27-Dec-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neofook** left.* [27-Dec-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sure, chuck up a buy order [27-Dec-21 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and ive filled the BSE as discussed [27-Dec-21 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dillerek** left.* [27-Dec-21 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty to everyone participating in the fundraiser! we've still got some 10k left, as well as a 25k and a couple 5k. katoa now has 125k in the coffers and i'll be scouting temporary contracts for upkeep items later today [27-Dec-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: add another 5k to the funds ;-) [27-Dec-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: :D [27-Dec-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: there's a producer on Umbra who may be able to provide some of the medical upkeep items, i just bought 10 STR from them (actually commandeered them from umbra upkeep lol) -- i will see about getting a regular supply there until i can set up auctions for producing upkeep items, which i'd prefer go to katoans [27-Dec-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is that just STR, TUB? [27-Dec-21 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah [27-Dec-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll have the full upkeep list with pricing and project plan for PAR together by later tonight. i'm actually moving houses this week so i picked a poor time to take on governmental responsibility :) but i'll get us sorted soon and i'm watching immediate upkeep needs [27-Dec-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: How much STR do we need? Theoretically i could make some STR. [27-Dec-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've got us covered for the next couple weeks [27-Dec-21 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but it's 10 every 10d [27-Dec-21 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and i've just added OFF to my BMP schedule, i should be able to cover for the moment but it'll go up for auction with the rest once i've got everything together [27-Dec-21 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i could conceivably add TUB as well, but we're covered there for long enough it'll probably last until auction [27-Dec-21 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i've got a couple GF on deimos that could probably squeeze in a few cycles for TUB [27-Dec-21 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: the DW will be a big contract or split among multiple -- between CoGC and SST we need quite a bit [27-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also huge thanks to knarf and mccowen for jumping on the PE/MCG need [27-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have 1090 OFF in stock on Katoa so i could cover that for now as long as its not forgotten [27-Dec-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sweet, if you want sell katoa 1k just hit me with what you think is a fair price and we can pay with planet funds and fill reserves for SST and INF [27-Dec-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: this will go for auction in the future, but i think we're ok to to front-load a couple purchases to get some reserves running [27-Dec-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: especially if you offer a reasonably discounted price [27-Dec-21 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: YAY! our OFF supplies have been topped up at a wonderful price. ty knarf! [27-Dec-21 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: :) [27-Dec-21 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: working out kinks with my ledger/income/expenses/inventory system, but katoa is now at 100k in the coffers and 110 OFF in reserve after topping up POPI reserves [27-Dec-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KarimTheGrim** joined.* [27-Dec-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slipvic** joined.* [27-Dec-21 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty to @DocWatz for a big fundraiser contribution and hundreds of DW donated to the CoGC! [27-Dec-21 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: if anyone has a pile of extra rations, we can get the CoGC fed comparably early this round [27-Dec-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: for this round, katoa can pay from fundraiser funds if anyone wants to offer the 522 remaining RAT required at a reasonable discount [27-Dec-21 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @derelict I sent you a DM [27-Dec-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: katoan coffers are currently at 132k, and our needs are nearing breathing-room coverage. next step will be to isolate our exact needs and costs based on cx values and start booking contracts to cover over the long term, preferably at substantially better prices. then we can see what the budget affords for upgrades, and i will open a discussion on discord about next buildings to purchase and how to handle their costs and upkeeps [27-Dec-21 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: together we'll build katoa as a shining (if stinky) example of community and technological growth! [27-Dec-21 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to Mor cx on lm [28-Dec-21 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: TRANSPORT: STL freighter available for tasking at Katoa. Available to take up to 500t/500m3 anywhere in Benten space. Contact me for pricing. 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We'll all benefit from the enthusiasm and attention you give your post. [28-Dec-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: huge thanks to our local corporations, AHI included, who have all expressed support in interest of a healthy katoa and a healthy region. your support is crucial to our overall success. [28-Dec-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and specifically to @DanX who was a model governor for the first several terms of the universe [28-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dead0fNight** joined.* [28-Dec-21 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will be watching for freight from BEN CX to KATOA. Have 495tm3 available, leaving in 4 hours at the latest. [28-Dec-21 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, cheap COF (300) on the CX. Get into it because I probably won’t list anymore, priced it for the cash liquidity. 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[29-Dec-21 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: It'll still be a full week before he start to receive the production fees though from the planet as they are paid early Monday morning (EU time)/late Sunday night (US time)... [29-Dec-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***randomperson** left.* [29-Dec-21 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pepando1199** left.* [29-Dec-21 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Undermancer** left.* [29-Dec-21 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Inzaghini** left.* [29-Dec-21 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Engee** left.* [29-Dec-21 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XMike** left.* [29-Dec-21 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***poukerman** left.* [29-Dec-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mike79** left.* [29-Dec-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: hey full load cargos from katoa to Ben cx and Mor CX are ready on LM with high payments. 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[29-Dec-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Ruyagormeyenadam [29-Dec-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: not now thanks :) [29-Dec-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wum239** left.* [29-Dec-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***patrik00** left.* [29-Dec-21 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sam6483993** left.* [29-Dec-21 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Twinredlotus** left.* [29-Dec-21 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in dire need of some COT. super busy next couple days but i'll try to sit down and get katoa upkeep sorted tomorrow. will have much more time after that [29-Dec-21 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: generous ad up for 10 COT btw [29-Dec-21 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: aaand a second ad for 6 because the first one won't be done for a while. whoever can deliver immediately, would appreciate the help :) [29-Dec-21 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! [29-Dec-21 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: ty [30-Dec-21 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tonicz** left.* [30-Dec-21 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mosh** joined.* [30-Dec-21 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cvoo** left.* [30-Dec-21 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kahimey** left.* [30-Dec-21 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7ed9f0d4a0** left.* [30-Dec-21 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: anyone has a few SFK's? made an ad, thnx [30-Dec-21 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vertix003** left.* [30-Dec-21 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rakvinator** left.* [30-Dec-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Corlis** joined.* [30-Dec-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corlis**: hello hello [30-Dec-21 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: haha now you are stuck on katoa [30-Dec-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corlis**: naah [30-Dec-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corlis**: i needed a planet with available settlers and a bit of fertility^^ [30-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corlis**: now producing nice alcoholics here [30-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corlis**: KOM and ALE soon :) [30-Dec-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***poetka** left.* [30-Dec-21 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordChen** joined.* [30-Dec-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bOiRecluse** joined.* [30-Dec-21 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***toniku.** left.* [30-Dec-21 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Solstone**: small MCG buy on the LM, looks like I missed counted. 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I ask because I not always do money laundering at CX to have stocks of cash :) [30-Dec-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Open to all offers! Although I think I'm quite well vertically integrated, I don't need much [30-Dec-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Drop me a PM :) [30-Dec-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Discord easier if you have it [31-Dec-21 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thaurgo** left.* [31-Dec-21 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paladinasd** left.* [31-Dec-21 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KellyFentler** joined.* [31-Dec-21 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KellyFentler** left.* [31-Dec-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Potatoo** left.* [31-Dec-21 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: If anyone needs an APF I got one being idle quite some time, I can assemble stuff inbetween my orders if anyone needs it. 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[31-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: congrats @derelict , may your reign be chaotic :-) [31-Dec-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LordChen**: lol [31-Dec-21 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyx_Zekhresaskue** left.* [31-Dec-21 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chezenator** left.* [31-Dec-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grumpkin** joined.* [31-Dec-21 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Congrats @derellict [01-Jan-22 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrTimmyGobbleClock** joined.* [01-Jan-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PICKLERICK69** joined.* [01-Jan-22 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***3alupa** left.* [01-Jan-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MartinTebenko** left.* [01-Jan-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: 2 full load cargo from katoa one to MOR cx one to Vallis for 7k CIS on LM [01-Jan-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodanCZE** joined.* [01-Jan-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***monoplay** left.* [01-Jan-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxiter** joined.* [01-Jan-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HerrManfred** left.* [01-Jan-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: I'll be flying back from QQ-001b CIRCE with two ships in about a day and a half, if anyone wants to buy on that LM and have it shipped back to Katoa. [01-Jan-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Miracle4you7**: Send me a PM so I know to grab it. [01-Jan-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For my fellow manufacturers, I have small quantities of AL, STL, and SI available here planetside if you wish for BMP recipes. AL=350, STL=700, SI=750 [01-Jan-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also turning out CU if anyone is game, at 1,000 each [01-Jan-22 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cash2range** left.* [01-Jan-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blasted** joined.* [02-Jan-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Emergency H2O rations on the LM @ 30/u and I've reorganised my EW base to get more to the CX. It will take 48-60 hours. [02-Jan-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone has a ship available and wishes to help alleviate water shortages over the coming week by flying to EW for me, please reach me via DM to organise. 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[03-Jan-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Konco22** joined.* [03-Jan-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boncirque** joined.* [03-Jan-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BongoBong** joined.* [03-Jan-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Ok, what happened to the H2O suppliers? [03-Jan-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve no idea :/ [03-Jan-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Im bringing in a shipload. but it’s 20hrs away [03-Jan-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I guess it is a good thing I am so close to colonizing my next planet. [03-Jan-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Admittedly I stopped shipping water, no one was paying more than 16 and the FF went through the roof [03-Jan-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: HYF uses a lot and quite a few being built on EW direct, the rest is probably going to corporate DW [03-Jan-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yeah, my HYF are hungry. [03-Jan-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh and no shipping [03-Jan-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cant get stuff shipped off EW for even 12k a load [03-Jan-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Most of the ships, like mine are probably now busy with internal shipping. [03-Jan-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Also, it matters where you put your ad. If you are putting it at EW then only EW residents will see it. Katoa and BEN see much more traffic. [03-Jan-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vanc**: uh oh... I ran out of RAT... anyone can sell me 100 RAT in LM? [03-Jan-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from Ben cx to Mor cx for 8000 cis on ben cx lm. [03-Jan-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @vanc I can [03-Jan-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paint_Bucket** left.* [03-Jan-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10,000 CIS shipping contract for Etherwind to Benten Station: LMA BEN/1229 [03-Jan-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone who takes it, I will also supply 360 SF, and 200 FF (nearly 7k worth of fuel!) so the shipping fee is mostly profit for your time. [03-Jan-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got 250 RAT up on the LM @ 50/u need some liquidity if anyone wants to help out! [03-Jan-22 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Liquidating stock on the LM, please check it out [04-Jan-22 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrylixGG** left.* [04-Jan-22 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa for 3000 cΔ±s on katoa lm [04-Jan-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***reckter** joined.* [04-Jan-22 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf8d6a24e30** left.* [04-Jan-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: @derelict. do you mind provisioning that contract for me please? :) [04-Jan-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***oofman** joined.* [04-Jan-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quenos** joined.* [04-Jan-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Hey - some new Katoans! Welcome to our little manufacturing hub for the Castillo-Ito region! [04-Jan-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiegoQetzel** joined.* [04-Jan-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4e6720cb4c** left.* [04-Jan-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: omg i tihnk i have everything saved up for base 2, os once my ships are ready ill be heading out to ementior, KAT base wil continue to supply C [04-Jan-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: congrats! [04-Jan-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cognoscentus** joined.* [04-Jan-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cognoscentus** left.* [04-Jan-22 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LordChen**: :) [04-Jan-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LordChen**: @neke86 i'll look into it [04-Jan-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Mostly gone now, the rest is en route to the CX :) [04-Jan-22 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: hydrogen order on LM if someone can fill please [04-Jan-22 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sell you 100 units at a premium, but not at a discount. [04-Jan-22 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: One of the larger gg owners might hit that order if you wait though [04-Jan-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 34 FE and 28 STL to get rid of [04-Jan-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: someone make me an offer pls [04-Jan-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm short 2 FEO, if anyone has any would appreciate it! [04-Jan-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ORder is on the LM [05-Jan-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user16bcf5e705** left.* [05-Jan-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Iusedtoskate** left.* [05-Jan-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WackyGunner** left.* [05-Jan-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa for 3000 cΔ±s on lm [05-Jan-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user724cf7f1b0** left.* [05-Jan-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CidDaBird** joined.* [05-Jan-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Repposh** left.* [05-Jan-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cecem** joined.* [05-Jan-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10k CIS EW>KAT contract (two parts) up on the LM [05-Jan-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA UV-351a/18674 [05-Jan-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA UV-351a/18673 [05-Jan-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im back neke [05-Jan-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: AWWW YESS [05-Jan-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No water shortage here! H2O.CI1 [05-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so i managed to give myself the hardest start possible as governor by going missing for several days as my term began. sorry katoa :( [05-Jan-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: now half my production lines are stopped and i have no RAT on katoa lol. cogc upkeep in 14h and we're short ~170 RAT. if someone can fill it then sell me a single ration on LM i'll pay for the missing ones [05-Jan-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Considering a trip to the Moria system. Currently have about 350 free. [05-Jan-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: e.g. fill cogc need then sell me a single rat for ~10k or whatever [05-Jan-22 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: 186 x RAT contributed to COGC [05-Jan-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: excellent, pls sell me a RAT on lm for whatever you think is fair [05-Jan-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wow that was quick goresh [05-Jan-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [05-Jan-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i left unexpectedly for a couple days and my entire company is in shambles, but _katoa comes first_ lol [05-Jan-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: you need anything to help kickstart your company? [05-Jan-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Petty cash [05-Jan-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I can't post ads on LM. [05-Jan-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty to the citizens who have kept the stocks full. and also to @DocWatz who is sending a couple HAB our way so we can build a PAR [05-Jan-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: oof, sorry Goresh [05-Jan-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll find a way to get you back. [05-Jan-22 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and @Doc hit me on dm either here or discord and tell me what katoa owes for the HAB [05-Jan-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @derelict do you still need that personal RAT? [05-Jan-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: @karr i may have a couple shipping ads going up for help getting my logistics going again, starting with a couple 12.5k CIS loads from CB-282d, the sooner the better [05-Jan-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and thx BlueHeeler but i'm ok on RAT, got a ship that will be here in 3h with enough to get me back on my feet [05-Jan-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: okay [05-Jan-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that was a payoff for whoever filled CoGC, which @Goresh generously did [05-Jan-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I see... [05-Jan-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: katoa should be covered on upkeep for several days, which should give me enough time to patch up my company's issues and get that plan i promised together for going forward. i fear we may have lost yet another week's taxes due to my absence after election [05-Jan-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: collection is allocated to my corp now so katoa will have tax income again at next collection [05-Jan-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: in the meantime i'll cover whatever we need personally; any missing taxes are on me for not being here [05-Jan-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Ok. I will pick up one of the half loads on Benton CX to Moria. [05-Jan-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Any loads to BEN? Will head off in about an hour. [05-Jan-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa to Ben? [05-Jan-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone got some PP2s interested in some work? [05-Jan-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can help with source inputs [05-Jan-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Departing Katoa - BEN in 20 min [05-Jan-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: 110t load still free [05-Jan-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2.4k units of INS on the CX if anyone fancies their hand at a GG. Price is 150, down from the previous offerings over 200 :) [05-Jan-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Departed [05-Jan-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 12.5k CIS for full load pulls from LM CB-282d to Katoa. willing to pay more for a speed run [06-Jan-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maraluk** left.* [06-Jan-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: @derelict ive grabbed it ,should be about a day to pick up and then prob about same to get it back to KAT [06-Jan-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Hey guys [06-Jan-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: If anyone can produce any basic overalls, I would greatly appreciate it, guess I choose the wrong start lol [06-Jan-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: what do you need? [06-Jan-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you can buy ove over CX or over LM [06-Jan-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: basic overalls is the only thing atm [06-Jan-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: water would be nice too, but uhh benten is overflowing with orders if anyone wants to swing by another station but I don't know if it would be worth it [06-Jan-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: so why aren't you making a LM order? [06-Jan-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: I did [06-Jan-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: if you mean I made orders for them [06-Jan-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: not sure I understand what that means, I don't see any LM order [06-Jan-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you can post a buy order on the local planet market or put a cx order on Benten station [06-Jan-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: unless someone already delivered it I don't see it :) [06-Jan-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: or maybe you bought it and it's on the space station [06-Jan-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: He has an H2O order in Benton CX for 17 CIS. [06-Jan-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @CidDaBird if no one is selling H2O at 17.00 you need to buy at 19.00 or you wait until someone is willing to sell at 17.00 [06-Jan-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Or post a BUY at the Local Market. [06-Jan-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seth1122** joined.* [06-Jan-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: yeah perhaps [06-Jan-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dyne** left.* [06-Jan-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nomriel** left.* [06-Jan-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stanley200074** joined.* [06-Jan-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maxxx0101x** joined.* [06-Jan-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to vallis for 8000 CIS on katoa lm [06-Jan-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: 430t free for a flight from Katoa to BEN. Depature in 1 hour. [06-Jan-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got PP2s and would like to assist making some fabs? [06-Jan-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got input mats for them if that helps, AL, PG, and NL [06-Jan-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Up front I need 14 LDE, 9 LSE, 4 LTA [06-Jan-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***demiguru** joined.* [06-Jan-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i will but not until prob monday ish then should have pp2 running [06-Jan-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lmk if you want some locked in supplied work :) [06-Jan-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I have that much LFAB on the shelf. [06-Jan-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *loosens wallet* [06-Jan-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 100t space on a freighter heading BEN to Katoa [06-Jan-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: any takers? [06-Jan-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercff499deb0** left.* [06-Jan-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: yes [06-Jan-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [06-Jan-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: launching! [06-Jan-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smiffeehimself** joined.* [06-Jan-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: make rocket go now [06-Jan-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it’s already going zoom zoom [06-Jan-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: BEN to Katoa in ~ 10 hours, full hold available if needed :) [07-Jan-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to mor cx (or vallis) for 8000 CIS on ben cx lm [07-Jan-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: I think I'm good for now [07-Jan-22 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Idk if I should look up guides at this point because I truly want to figure it out [07-Jan-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alexisdu7589** joined.* [07-Jan-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Asking for 6 BDE on the LM if anyone has some spare [07-Jan-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Posted [07-Jan-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi nicster, if you click on his buy order you cna accept and fil it there, rather than creating a sell order on LM, works a bit different ot CXL [07-Jan-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I know, i didn't see it when i posted :) [07-Jan-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: no worries [07-Jan-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bOiRecluse** left.* [07-Jan-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: How's it going lads [07-Jan-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: I was curious to see what we had in our system and we have a shipyard in Yannick, what is the point of this lol [07-Jan-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CidDaBird** deleted this message.* [07-Jan-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: other then making ships ofc, why have a base there? [07-Jan-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No point I don’t think, no resources and hostile. You’d build a small staging base if you’re a ship builder thiugh maybe [07-Jan-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so customers can collect and use goods there, as it takes more than 500t to make a ship [07-Jan-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was thinking of making a tiny base with a STO [07-Jan-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and filling it with hull plates but unless you have a buyer lined up, potentially huge loss of capital [07-Jan-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: What's with making blueprints? Can Yannick automate making ships for us? [08-Jan-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you dont need a base there to build ships you can just assingne parts to a shipbuilding project and make multible trips with 1 ship [08-Jan-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anna-Maria** left.* [08-Jan-22 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yea I know, I’ve done it :) Was trying to justify a base there - it would be a luxury public service at best [08-Jan-22 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx for 3k cis on lm [08-Jan-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: good timing, i grabbed it [08-Jan-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armpit** left.* [08-Jan-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Miracle4you7** left.* [08-Jan-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zetter** joined.* [08-Jan-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBeesKnees** joined.* [08-Jan-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gentry** joined.* [08-Jan-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBeesKnees** left.* [08-Jan-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBeesKnees** joined.* [08-Jan-22 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frayson** joined.* [08-Jan-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VanObar** joined.* [08-Jan-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grumpkin** left.* [08-Jan-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: nooooooooooooooooooooooo not GRUMPKIN [08-Jan-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehe [09-Jan-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrTimmyGobbleClock** left.* [09-Jan-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PICKLERICK69** left.* [09-Jan-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Milovitch** joined.* [09-Jan-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I posted two ads for OVE on the LM if anyone has a few spare [09-Jan-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShutterEye** left.* [09-Jan-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HapUgMata** left.* [09-Jan-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: crazy shipping ad on LM [09-Jan-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biboux** left.* [09-Jan-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Cold_Mace** joined.* [09-Jan-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Zathras** left.* [09-Jan-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have no credits to pay my taxes and none to post a SELL order in the LM. Would someone be willing to buy 100 units of DW for 2500 CIS from me? You would have to post the BUY. [09-Jan-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @blueheeler - Ad up to help ya out! [09-Jan-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thank you. [09-Jan-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I wish you could set an alert on your user name in the coms. [09-Jan-22 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: hey doc, i'll take all 5 HAB @ the price you specified [09-Jan-22 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll put up an ad now [09-Jan-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty! [09-Jan-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Katoa's getting a Par [09-Jan-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yappers [09-Jan-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: come see the pretty animals! [09-Jan-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: now i just have to buy the remaining bfabs and put it together [09-Jan-22 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ~4h until PAR, now i just have to source upkeep :) [09-Jan-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I can bring in SOI for you... [09-Jan-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: will gladly take it. should finally see tax money for katoa this week [09-Jan-22 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i can make the DEC and source the DW, PFE is a little tougher [09-Jan-22 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: But honestly, we probably need to primarily keep it stocked with DW for now [09-Jan-22 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i should finally have some more time starting tomorrow [09-Jan-22 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: down to cleaning the old place, almost totally moved into the new house [09-Jan-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: been keeping up with my exercise challenge though! not very hard at the beginning of the year lol [09-Jan-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Yeah - that can really interrupt "play time" :) [09-Jan-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Ditto - 4 reps per day right now for me and my boys doing the challenge...been banking a bit for later in the year :) [09-Jan-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll donate the initial full reserve on the DW for the PAR! [09-Jan-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: yeah it was the perfect storm between holidays and moving. i didn't run a few months ago because i was starting a new job; finally ran for office just in time to have my longest absence from the game since i started [09-Jan-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty so much doc! you're really helping katoa get off the ground [09-Jan-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: thank god for recurring orders with pro... otherwise my entire empire would be at a dead stop] [09-Jan-22 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: as it is it's going to take a couple days of hard burn flights to get everything back up to speed. no biggie though, thankfully i had a bit in the personal bank account so i can weather the storm as i put things back online [09-Jan-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: also katoans since i had not fully vetted PAR plans with the citizens, the initial build PAR supplies are my personal contribution. money for HAB/bfabs/etc are not coming from katoa's funds. i will seek to pay for upkeep via taxes, but the initial build is on me. [09-Jan-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @derelict - That's very generous. Knowing it's a donation type of project, I'd be happy to pitch in 25K if you want to put up a golden RAT/DW/etc. logging off for tonight, but can grab that in the morning if you post one [09-Jan-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no need, i'll be assessing upkeep needs as taxes come in and if i need another round of donations we can handle it then [09-Jan-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: honestly i think we'll be ok once i get items more consistently sourced [09-Jan-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: ty for the offer though! [10-Jan-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blasted** left.* [10-Jan-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoans: full load of water available on EW LM at 16/u [10-Jan-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA KW-688C/5843 [10-Jan-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mosh** left.* [10-Jan-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone selling carbon they can fulfill now? [10-Jan-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kagamigara** joined.* [10-Jan-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ffawwd** left.* [10-Jan-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Wait a minute, when did this game become Star Zoo! -*[K4WA] DocWatz come see the pretty animals!* [10-Jan-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Good guy Gov'na *OK] derelict. honestly i think we'll be ok once i get items more consistently sourced* [10-Jan-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: It's very nice to see some actual progress happening on Katoa. Great Job @derelict! [10-Jan-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Also from me a big thanks to all you people have done for the planet! [10-Jan-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: As long he doesn't go searching for the Fifth Element we should be in a good place, I think [10-Jan-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Just me and my chickens @nicster [10-Jan-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: we've had some very generous contributions that've kept things running; coming into a neglected infrastructure i'm really grateful for all the help :) [10-Jan-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: PAR is operational, we should start seeing easier tech growth [10-Jan-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it looks like some tax revenue came in but i can't see the amount because i was away too long. i'm going to call it 200k for the moment, but i should be able to see the exact amount at the next financial report and modify accordingly. this means katoa has over 300k in the coffers as we shop for suppliers [10-Jan-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Nice! what are the main mats you are looking for suppliers? [10-Jan-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: DW is a huge one, almost everything needs it [10-Jan-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: then there's specialty stuff for all 3 INF buildings [10-Jan-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll put a list together today and we can start getting bids going [10-Jan-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sorry all three POPI buildings, which are SST INF and PAR [10-Jan-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: but if anyone's looking to contribute in short term, making sure our CoGC is fed is the highest priority [10-Jan-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: dropped some upkeep dw and rat off [10-Jan-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I have no idea what's going on and I'm still familiarizing myself with not going bankrupt but how can I help? [10-Jan-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***horse6** joined.* [10-Jan-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YitaiCapitalLLC** joined.* [10-Jan-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: you can see income in dividents and past dividents [10-Jan-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: open CORPFIN [10-Jan-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and since you're alone in corp it will show ou a list like this [10-Jan-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: https://pasteboard.co/hMx1QPxnAPAO.png {Embed} https://pasteboard.co/hMx1QPxnAPAO.png Pasteboard - Uploaded Image Simple and lightning fast image sharing. Upload clipboard images with Copy & Paste and image files with Drag & Drop https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XWjpDQE8dlqrbz4RVUS4V4_Zkvihs68Mxbe0vVSly4g/https/gcdn.pbrd.co/images/hMx1QPxnAPAO.png [10-Jan-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HlloTere** left.* [10-Jan-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: individually wrapped BSEs [10-Jan-22 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: sweet ty aldin [10-Jan-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: so i've only had the one dividend collection -- it says 51 CIS per share, for 1000 shares, does that mean we collected 51k in taxes? [10-Jan-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: it also shows like 27k in liquid assets which doesn't make any sense [10-Jan-22 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @derelict - the 27K in assets is the accumulated income so far in the current cycle that will continue to accumulate and pay at the end of this week [10-Jan-22 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why are there individually gift wrapped BSE on the LM hahaha [10-Jan-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Full ship available at Benten Station to take a 500/500 cargo to Katoa or Umbra. 5k CIS [11-Jan-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Hey good morning/evening to everyone, quick question for a newbee, if I bought something and it has already been delivered it would show up in whatever station or local market I bought it from, correct? [11-Jan-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well if you had a ship in the station and you bought something at that station it would show up in your ship. If you don't have a a ship there it is waiting for you to arrive with a ship. If you buy something from the LM it will wind up in your base inventory when you have completed that stage of the contract. [11-Jan-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Does that answer your question? [11-Jan-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you have paid storage in the station it could be there. [11-Jan-22 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When I first started this game I bought some stuff at the CX but could not find it in any of my inventories. It was then that I realized that I was at a planet and need to fly to the station in order to get the things that I had bought. I made a few more really bad choices and then had to COLIQ (start over). [11-Jan-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have to go to bed now, so I won't ba able to answer if you still don't have an answer. [11-Jan-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Thanks for the answer but I had to learn that the hard way too lol but I'm (hopefully) not going to start over. [11-Jan-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to vallis for 7k cΔ±s on katoa lm [11-Jan-22 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I placed a good bunch of shipping ads on BEN LM towards ANT and MOR. Please have a look if you are interested. [11-Jan-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mjewkes** left.* [11-Jan-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: I accepted some for Moria [11-Jan-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Oh another newbee question if anyone can help out, I tried looking around in apex and I can't find where my items I've bought through our commodity exchange, for example my basic rations, drinking water and stl fuel, iis there a command to find the items? The order was awhile ago so they should be there, right? [11-Jan-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: If you didn't have inventory at the station they will be in a contract [11-Jan-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: Click CONT on the left side bar. [11-Jan-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: yeah I don't see those items there [11-Jan-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Its concerning to me because I just started playing and I don't wish to wipe of lack of resources [11-Jan-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***djendreizak** joined.* [11-Jan-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @CidDaBird - As DanX said - if the order filled at the CX, but you don't have inventory space to receive them, they will be placed into 'contracts'. Once you have a ship at the CX (or open a warehouse there), then you should be able to open those contracts and receive the contents of the order [11-Jan-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: They should show up on the CONTS buffer (or in the list that shows when you click SDBR to open the sidebar) [11-Jan-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gods011** joined.* [11-Jan-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: tax projection currently looks like katoa is making ~160k/wk. this seems a little low for our pop; i will do some upkeep math and consult some other folks about what upkeeps we need fed at what priorities, and determine how we can expect to be doing for net income as a planet [11-Jan-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: growth will be expensive. i don't want to raise taxes unless we have to, but over the coming days i'll lay out a plan for what we currently need covered and what our best growth opportunities look like, and open a discussion on how to get current needs met regularly as well as what an acceptable tradeoff looks like for taxes vs infrastructure spend [11-Jan-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: @DocWatz That would be fine if it showed I had my rations, drinking water and stl fuel there but they aren't... [11-Jan-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BongoBong** left.* [11-Jan-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @CidDaBird I have sent you a direct message. [11-Jan-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @CidDaBird I am available to help you now if you go to personal messages. [11-Jan-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Thanks @BlueHeeler [11-Jan-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Checked my warehouse and there it was lol [11-Jan-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***c_onvulse** joined.* [12-Jan-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: still need a little over 300 DW for CoGC. katoa can pay for it, if someone wants to make an offer to get it filled. donations are of course always welcome. [12-Jan-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sell 300 DW [12-Jan-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 328 to be exact [12-Jan-22 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure [12-Jan-22 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ill put to LM [12-Jan-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: CoGC filled 4 days in advance, might be a new record :) [12-Jan-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: good news everybody! it looks like our current tax income should more than meet all our upkeep needs, including for the new PAR, based on average BEN CX pricing (~150k expenses, ~170k income per week, net planetary gain ~20k). which means if we can get good deals on upkeep items, we can keep everything fully stocked and start looking towards our next project immediately. if we don't need full upkeep on some items, even better. will report more in the next day or so. [12-Jan-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: tax income is a loose estimate, and cogc upkeep may fluctuate a bit, but with a little wiggle room for both we should still be in the black [12-Jan-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks guv [12-Jan-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: looking to buy at least 200 GAL [12-Jan-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i can sell you 100, maybe 200 if the price is right [12-Jan-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: 200 cuts me pretty close on reserves [12-Jan-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: can anyone sell me 1 h2o pls over LM? ad up thnx [12-Jan-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pav** left.* [12-Jan-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhostXD** joined.* [12-Jan-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhostXD** left.* [12-Jan-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Sounds good @derelict [12-Jan-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quenos** left.* [12-Jan-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i will start putting up requests for bid tomorrow, but the things we need most are DW 875/wk, PE 700/wk, MCG 700/wk, RAT 350/wk, and OFF 210/wk. the rarer stuff we need less of but will be harder to source. if you make any of these things and feel like contributing to katoan growth by selling at a discount on a regular weekly contract, get ready to bid. i will do 2 rounds of bids, both public, so only bid if you don't mind others seeing your offer. bidding for all items will start in ~2d [12-Jan-22 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: no single contract has to fill any requirement -- i will take the lowest bids that add up to cover our needs, so if you want to bid for 100 DW/wk, feel free. the biggest thing is reliability -- katoa can't be stuck with suppliers who routinely miss their shipments. [12-Jan-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiegoQetzel** left.* [12-Jan-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: are you using the discord bot for the auction [12-Jan-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'm not sure yet. i have to check out its options [12-Jan-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: most important thing to me is transparency for all planetary budgeting and contracts. katoans have a right to know how funds are collected and spent, and whoever walks into the job after me should have a solid idea what to expect [12-Jan-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: ok cuz i hate the discord bot, you have to fill out like 10 pages of paperwork just to submit a bid [12-Jan-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: what would be super groovy is if someone could just make an auction bot that runs entirely on Prun [12-Jan-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: and you just PM it to make your bids [12-Jan-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: that would def be nice [12-Jan-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **opie**: i also dislike how 90% of communication in general is outsourced to discord too but i guess it's sort of necessary cuz the game communication tools are kinda lacking [12-Jan-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i'll probably just make a request for bid here and on discord, collect all the bids in a publicly viewable spreadsheet, link it after the first round, do a second round once everyone's seen the first round bids, and pick the winners from the second round [12-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: and yeah, discord's just better tooling for this kind of social communication. though i think it wouldn't take a huge amount of dev time to make some pretty good improvements to in game coms [12-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: just not a lot of dev time to go around, and little motivation when everyone uses discord :shrug: [12-Jan-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive completed my new base so will be able to focus a bit more on providing resources on katoa where possible [12-Jan-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LordChen**: hi derelict :o [12-Jan-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: hey I have two contracts that pay out 12k NCC each, willing to pm someone the details for a finder's fee of 1k CIS [12-Jan-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: if anyone is interested pm me [12-Jan-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CidDaBird** deleted this message.* [12-Jan-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: both contracts have a delivery time of 5* days [13-Jan-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not gonna lie I don’t have time for bidding and checking all that stuff, I can supply all of it, or any of it, at probably near any sensible price you like so feel free to bring my any shortfalls - independent supplier for an independent Katoa :) [13-Jan-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 200t space available for Katoa to Benten Station. 5/u. Leaves NLT 60 minutes. [13-Jan-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dergell**: posted something for 50mΒ³ :) [13-Jan-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0d7635f882** left.* [13-Jan-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FilliMan** joined.* [13-Jan-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kamakizehooksy** joined.* [13-Jan-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Septy** joined.* [13-Jan-22 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loviator** joined.* [13-Jan-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loviator** left.* [13-Jan-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loviator** joined.* [13-Jan-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: here are the commodities that katoa needs supplied weekly: [13-Jan-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: DW 876 [13-Jan-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: PE 700 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: MCG 700 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: RAT 350 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: OFF 210 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: TUB 70 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: FOD 70 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: SUN 42 [13-Jan-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: SOI 35 [13-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: PFE 24 [13-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: STR 7 [13-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: DEC 4 [13-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loviator** left.* [13-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: feel free to bid via dm here (not in planet chat, it may get lost), or in any katoa UFO discord channel [13-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: or dm me on discord [13-Jan-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: i will publish all bids in the next 48h and either go for a second bid round once everyone's seen the competition or directly to contracts depending on interest [13-Jan-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: partial bids are fine, but whatever volume you bid for it is mandatory that you supply it weekly by the end of the financial period. reliability is at least as important as price. [14-Jan-22 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vintage_Weiner** joined.* [14-Jan-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Is there any reason why you don't want to do a surface landing? [14-Jan-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no [14-Jan-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can’t trade in orbit, or move gear between ships etc [14-Jan-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Why give us the option then? xD [14-Jan-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the long answer is probably there is scrnario [14-Jan-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I did it once where I wasn’t 100% sure where I wanted the ship [14-Jan-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (it was empty) [14-Jan-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also and I hadn’t really thought about this but guess you could park it in orbit and ride the planet orbit until it’s close to where you want to fo [14-Jan-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: like if you were on Katoa and wanted to get to Benten D, maybe send it to umbra orbit and wait until it passes closer to D [14-Jan-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: these are not sensible scenarios [14-Jan-22 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: anyone with GAL for sale on Katoa? [14-Jan-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I could part with maybe 50 GAL [14-Jan-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: for how much? [14-Jan-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: I could sell some too if you need more than those 50 from Goresh [14-Jan-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in buying HER? [14-Jan-22 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you’re looking to dump COT, I’m buying large quantities [14-Jan-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: well, I would buy up to 1000 =) [14-Jan-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Ok, i'll put some up on the LM then :) 65 CIS each sound fair? [14-Jan-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: sounds good! [14-Jan-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: thanks [14-Jan-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: that should last me another day [14-Jan-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Haha, good to hear! :) [14-Jan-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I need, uh..8*9*2 a day [14-Jan-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: so 144. and produce 54 myself [14-Jan-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Oh, that's a lot :O And it's not the most convenient material to ship either [14-Jan-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: yea, but my REFs are on Katoa so it's okay. I just ship the SF [14-Jan-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***oofman** left.* [14-Jan-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: does anyone have spare OVEs? [14-Jan-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Really need some [14-Jan-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: and posted for 120 MCGs if anyone is nice to fill that for me [14-Jan-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: trying to build another farmstead [14-Jan-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pantalaimon** deleted this message.* [14-Jan-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Flight Katoa --> Ben / Departure in 5h. 450t still free. [14-Jan-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user651f332c7e** left.* [14-Jan-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Last call for flight to BEN. Departure in 30 Minutes. [14-Jan-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Don’t everybody laugh too much at once but I accidentally bought 72 NE and brought them to Katoa thinking it was N, would anybody like to purchase it off me? [14-Jan-22 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve listed it on the LM for less than half what it’s selling on the CX [14-Jan-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToAlReb** left.* [15-Jan-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa for 3k cΔ±s on ben cx lm [15-Jan-22 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx for 3k cΔ±s on katoa lm. [15-Jan-22 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would any fabricators be so kind as to hit my leading bids on BSE.CI1 and LSE.CI1 in exchange for one favor token [15-Jan-22 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: That's a lot of BSE, I'll try filling some of it on my next trip to the CX if it's still there [15-Jan-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i will have some on Katoa in 2 days [15-Jan-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: BSE that is [15-Jan-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: appreciate any and all! [15-Jan-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: happy to pay a bit more [15-Jan-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I'll let you know when my ship lands [15-Jan-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: we now have first round bids in for all required upkeep items. check katoa politics on discord for a breakdown of the items required if you want to place a bid. first round bidding will close in ~11h, and i will post results [15-Jan-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: with current bids it looks like we can chop weekly expenses from 150k down to about 108k [15-Jan-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: freeing up about 60k/wk for future projects without altering taxes. this money will go quick though, as more infrastructure gets increasingly expensive [15-Jan-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SonnyCZE** joined.* [15-Jan-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: @derelict I'm just a farmer scrub with my 121 pioneers brother lol [15-Jan-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pikanate** left.* [15-Jan-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **derelict.**: last call for bids. check UFO discord, katoa general or katoa politics to see the items up for bid and some of the current bids. bidding closes tonight, technically now-ish but i'll take any that come in over the next couple hours. i'll publish results tomorrow and gauge interest in a second round of bidding, or just move on to awarding contracts. some of the bids are at great discounts, others are barely at market price. if you can beat market and you want a whole planet as a client, submit a bid now! [16-Jan-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asari** left.* [16-Jan-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: whilst a second round would make sense to give people the option to fine tunetheir bids (benefitting the planet as even cheaper prices) I dunno if might be a bit too much to keep everyones interest atm (hope that makes sense) [16-Jan-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: If anyone has a spare ship, I have shipping contracts for full loads on LM CH-115b going to BEN. Given current fuel prices, I think each trip would net at least 3000 CIS profit. 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[18-Jan-22 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calibrate** joined.* [19-Jan-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa for 3k cΔ±s on lm [19-Jan-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadow_prime** left.* [19-Jan-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morgan.way77** joined.* [19-Jan-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elvrest** joined.* [19-Jan-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone around to ask me some AMM?? [19-Jan-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gods011** left.* [19-Jan-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb0df4da51e** left.* [19-Jan-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Calibrate**: How much ammonia do you need [19-Jan-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I only needed a small amount, someone filled my [19-Jan-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: order thank you! [19-Jan-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Calibrate**: No problem! 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[21-Jan-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: dependso nwhaty you want to do with your second base [21-Jan-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I wanted to do AL and PP2 so ementior was good choice [21-Jan-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I have checked which products do i need to buy for my main products. Then i calcuted if it is cheaper to make them than to buy them. [21-Jan-22 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: In the end i searched for a fertile planet with good amount of water to secure my water needs and to improve my agri and food production. [21-Jan-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I see, thanks everyone! [21-Jan-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: yep ill echo what everyone else is saying but thing to do for a second base is to support your current production. [21-Jan-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: best* [21-Jan-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kamakizehooksy** left.* [21-Jan-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Septy** left.* [21-Jan-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PSA: I’ll be putting 1,500 OVE and 60 BDE through the MM on CI1 [21-Jan-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some time in the next 12 hours, so get your low ball bids in [22-Jan-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user43a9628398** left.* [22-Jan-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [22-Jan-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DroiD_16** joined.* [22-Jan-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Immatoll** left.* [22-Jan-22 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Immatoll2** left.* [22-Jan-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: anyone has bit of FF pls? got stranded, LM up [22-Jan-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrostSTeeL** left.* [22-Jan-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: if anyone has 1 SCN they could spare, it would help me out greatly. ad on the LM [22-Jan-22 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***opie** left.* [23-Jan-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rasd** deleted this message.* [23-Jan-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnbatedSubset** left.* [23-Jan-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DroiD_16** left.* [23-Jan-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daikamar** left.* [23-Jan-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Is there anyone here in Katoa who can provide PCB? [23-Jan-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No sorry [23-Jan-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Too many RFabs and almost zero market [23-Jan-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can anyone sell me 2 BTA asap? [23-Jan-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Sorry i have only 1 BTA [23-Jan-22 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashburne** left.* [24-Jan-22 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx on lm [24-Jan-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lukkse** joined.* [24-Jan-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxi25554** left.* [24-Jan-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Throwing my hat into the ring for Governor of Katoa. I'm running on a platform of corruption and wealth. [24-Jan-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have few policy agendas, but if elected, I will focus on increasing shipping availability (personally this is already underway) and securing our water supply. These are issues at least people should know me for. [24-Jan-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deafening-Whisper** joined.* [24-Jan-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: corruption and wealth, music to my ears, how much is my pledged support wirth in Weekly Water? hehhe [24-Jan-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll need your Carbon too, so something can be arranged :) [24-Jan-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: _waits patiently_ for the "Give these people air!" political platform to emerge [24-Jan-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can't do air... how about.. Hydrogen? [24-Jan-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I guess if we balance the H, N, and O correctly [24-Jan-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can get close [24-Jan-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: C can be arranged [24-Jan-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1k water on the LM in 250 unit batches. [24-Jan-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***astralavida** joined.* [24-Jan-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [24-Jan-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone heard from @debris recently? [24-Jan-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: why can't I @derelict. properly [24-Jan-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Snorka**: Is a Collector or Extractor more valuable here on Katoa? [24-Jan-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Calibrate**: @Snorka I'd say an extractor, at least in terms of output [24-Jan-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Murple** joined.* [24-Jan-22 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Did the Katoa governorship start eating people? [24-Jan-22 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: Yeah they ate me [24-Jan-22 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Calibrate**: ?? [24-Jan-22 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CidDaBird**: ??? [24-Jan-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Derelict and Korbin both ran clean and honest governorships and look where they've ended up [24-Jan-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: spaced [24-Jan-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On my platform of corruption and wealth, I will run a more resilient leadership [24-Jan-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and aim to survive my first term [24-Jan-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Calibrate**: What do governors do again [24-Jan-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Build and maintain POPI infrastructure [24-Jan-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: calibrate tax levels [24-Jan-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: make spreadsheets [24-Jan-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And like I said, I'll dedicate my two STL ships to BEN<>KAT [24-Jan-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So newer and smaller players with LM access can reliably send small/medium payloads to the CX and back knowing the shipper and the timeframe [24-Jan-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: stop wasting fuel etc [24-Jan-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And water security, H2O for Katoa as a priority :) [24-Jan-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can probably tweak that last one to be DW if it suits the masses [25-Jan-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Does anybody have one spare TRU for me? ad is on the LM. [25-Jan-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: got it [25-Jan-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: thanks [25-Jan-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: I posted ads for OVE on the LM if anyone has some spare [25-Jan-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: thanks! [25-Jan-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dergell**: thanks for the premium rate :) [25-Jan-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userecd63d28f2** left.* [25-Jan-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PerpetualOwl** left.* [25-Jan-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ghangi** joined.* [25-Jan-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TehBadGuy12** joined.* [25-Jan-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheWeeWum** left.* [25-Jan-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***prospperous** joined.* [25-Jan-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kellvandir** left.* [25-Jan-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TehBadGuy12** left.* [25-Jan-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***evilframe** left.* [25-Jan-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RLD** joined.* [25-Jan-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gc313** joined.* [25-Jan-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: If anyone has 1 spare BTA i'd appreciate it, I put up an ad on the LM [25-Jan-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nomain** joined.* [25-Jan-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have an FS on Katoa that will be out of work in 22 hours and demolished. If you want stuff made or would like to task it, hit me up. [25-Jan-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: =============== [25-Jan-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC runs out in 12 hours I think [25-Jan-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Derelict still hasn't checked back [25-Jan-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't have MCG to give away (need 295) but I have DW I can donate absent the Governor [25-Jan-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can someone else do 295 MCG? [25-Jan-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Sorry, just demolished my BMP last week [25-Jan-22 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Interesting choice? [25-Jan-22 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have done it myself to ensure we don't lose the COGC [25-Jan-22 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and topped up the SST as well [26-Jan-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CleverForge** joined.* [26-Jan-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rihu** left.* [26-Jan-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CleverForge** left.* [26-Jan-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lukkse** left.* [26-Jan-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: have we lost derelict, has he ran away into the ether with Korbin? [26-Jan-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Someone laced the governor seat with poison. Whomsoever becomes the next, beware [26-Jan-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TehBadGuy12** joined.* [26-Jan-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've been taking very small doses daily, so I should be immune now [26-Jan-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our governors. [26-Jan-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha [26-Jan-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***birdlee32** left.* [26-Jan-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @neke86 - Thanks for the willingness to do what can be done to help promote Katoan prosperity! You have the current support of KAWA and FOWL corp members here on Katoa! We appreciate all of your consistent presence and investment into supporting newer players through the past several months. [26-Jan-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: For any that haven't had any direct interaction with @neke86 - they are a very consistent player to interact with through both Apex and are also active in UFO Discord server. [26-Jan-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: We have certainly missed @derelict and the Debris brand posts - but the ongoing needs of our pop growth and cogc maintenance are worth ensuring that production fees have an active collector that can use those towards mutual benefit for all of our residents [26-Jan-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks for the support Doc [26-Jan-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_EDington** left.* [26-Jan-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: what happened to derelict? [26-Jan-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't know, haven't been able to raise him here or on Discord in about a week [26-Jan-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I know he took the Governorship at a bad time, was very very busy IRL so I'm hoping he just got maxxed out and everything is okay [26-Jan-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I will be supporting Neke86 this current election as we need someone active and RL may be tying Derelict up currently it seems [26-Jan-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll likely move quickly to add 1 more SST, and stock the PAR properly [26-Jan-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Then re-evaluate our comfort. Latest POPR has it at 10% but the PAR is not stocked properly. [26-Jan-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naithin** left.* [26-Jan-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: If someone has 10 BDEs, I have an order up on the LM. [26-Jan-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: he recently moved so that is probably taking up his time [26-Jan-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone has small packages for KAT > BEN please list them now! Freighter leaving within the hour [26-Jan-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calibrate** left.* [27-Jan-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoans: If there is anyone out there who might interested in a bulk purchase of certain CONS, I have over ~700 REP, ~1200 OVE and ~600 PWO I'd like to sell to help provide liquidity coming into the Katoa governorship with empty planetary coffers. Please DM me, for pricing details/offers/lowball negotiations. [27-Jan-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I also have about 6,000 H2O [27-Jan-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ================ [27-Jan-22 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: H2O price? [27-Jan-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoans! With endorsements behind me and a strong track record here on Katoa, I’m hoping the remaining 22 voters will consider shifting their votes to me to avoid re-electing an absent player. I’ve personally propped up the COGC already, and have started securing what we’ll need in the next few days to stabilize our upkeep. I look forward to your support :) [27-Jan-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: You have my vote and i hope you are more resistant to the poisonous katoa throne ;) [27-Jan-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: Youll have my vote if you vow to export our air canned so we can share the pleasant smell [27-Jan-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morgan.way77** left.* [27-Jan-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Quck thanks to all KAtoans woi have moved their vote to ensure we dnt have an absent governor, whilst im sure Derelcit wil lbe back at some point ,we need to keep pushing forwards and Neke86 appears suitable corrupt to fill the position [27-Jan-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wow good luck reading that, damn typos sorry [27-Jan-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: moved* [27-Jan-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elvrest** left.* [27-Jan-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks Karr :) [27-Jan-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think I can make those compressed air cylinders at my FS for you @tooslider [27-Jan-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SHIPPING: I've got 1,000 t/m3 of spare capacity heading to the station, will an hour for shipments [27-Jan-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Shipped sorry [27-Jan-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: UPKEEP: If anyone here can source me TUB, FOD or even has some DW to contribute, please send me a DM. [27-Jan-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC Upkeep buys are posted to the LM with the rating "E" for visibility. [27-Jan-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: As there are no funds, the asking price is a bit low sorry, but when it's no longer coming out of my pocket I'll aim for fairer pricing! [27-Jan-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: RAT filled [27-Jan-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you @pantalaimon and @karr1981 [27-Jan-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I spent 125k upgrading the SST to L3, which I think will cover us a bit better [27-Jan-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will wait a cycle or two and focus on getting more coverage from the INF/PAR before considering what to do next [27-Jan-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill help as much as i cna but stil lgetting used to runnign 2 bases [27-Jan-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You've done plenty thank you! Others can chip in as well, and tax revenue will begin one day [27-Jan-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I can supply FOD. I have 74 on hand. I can dump in on the upkeep if it makes sense now. [27-Jan-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Does it matter if we don't have the other upkeep items? [27-Jan-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Let me buy it off you please [27-Jan-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Unless you really want to donate it :) [27-Jan-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thankyou for the MCG @McCowen [27-Jan-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it doesn't matter, every bit of upkeep helps [27-Jan-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: If you want. 100 CIS seems the be a going rate [27-Jan-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll work on PFE and SOI if it's cost effective, FOD will help [27-Jan-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure, I'll place a buy now [27-Jan-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you! [27-Jan-22 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many thanks to @PiBoy314 and @Gravy for generous cash donations to Katoa to the total of 400k CIS to help keep things going smoothly [28-Jan-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** joined.* [28-Jan-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: anyone has some dw pls ran out [28-Jan-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure [28-Jan-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: post a small buy [28-Jan-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: get you out of trouble ag leash [28-Jan-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at least ** [28-Jan-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I made an ad is for 200 at 55 how much can you sell me? :D [28-Jan-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: and a 2nd one of 60 :( [28-Jan-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah I’m on mobile didn’t realise that was you; filled them both [28-Jan-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: haha, if you need some back I can return it :) [28-Jan-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All good :) [28-Jan-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: oki thnx [28-Jan-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lol90** joined.* [28-Jan-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: hi [28-Jan-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: hi [28-Jan-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: is this star system or planet good for carbon farming [28-Jan-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: it is and umbra is buying C [28-Jan-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: oh thanks [28-Jan-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I'd buy from you :) [28-Jan-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @karr1981 you can pick up the COF that you paid for [28-Jan-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThreeEyedMagpie** deleted this message.* [28-Jan-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Congrats to neke86 for becoming the new governor. May your corruption endure for many terms! [28-Jan-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrMambo**: +1 [28-Jan-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: now we can flame him :D [28-Jan-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JeremySpade** left.* [28-Jan-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you Katoans for the votes :) [28-Jan-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: You get what you paid for, we're all professional here [28-Jan-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoans reading this, if you have a minute please drop me a DM and tell me about your business and what you primarily sell, items you buy, things you find difficult to source. One of the things I'm going to try, if there's enough cooperation and activity, is trying to connect businesses here in a more organized manner. It will also help me in sourcing Government contracts more efficiently as I will not be running long competitive tender processes. [28-Jan-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And please, if you're making donations please let me know so I can acknowledge them or help pay for some of the larger ones :) The players who recently donated MCG please put up magic RATs at 10/u and dm me the ad so I can pay for it! [28-Jan-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking to buy some EXO, PWO, PT and OVE, drop me a pm if you have some for sale, have aorund 5k to spend on each type [28-Jan-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How many units of each? [28-Jan-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OVE 125 * 40 = 5,000 [28-Jan-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PWO 50 * 100 = 5,000 [28-Jan-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And if you want, though the pricing isn't heavily competitive: [28-Jan-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PT 20 * 200 = 4,000 [28-Jan-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: EXO 20 * 100 = 2,000 [28-Jan-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sounds good, ill place buy orders now [28-Jan-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Special treat, I even have a small amount of KOM, I'll throw in 10 for free [28-Jan-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and 5 REP [28-Jan-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I mean Governor [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Straight from the Governor, to you, courtesy of the CHOAM Spacing Guild ;) [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: :-) [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No corruption here guys, move along [28-Jan-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: The Brown envelope is under your car back wheel [28-Jan-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oops wrongchat [28-Jan-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LOL [28-Jan-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehe [28-Jan-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: hi [28-Jan-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: anyone wants to buy h20 [28-Jan-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: 4 h20 [28-Jan-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: h20 means water [28-Jan-22 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There will be buyers but.. probably not for just 4 units? Costs more to place the ad [28-Jan-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: oh thanks [28-Jan-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SHIPPING: 200t/m3 available to the CX. [28-Jan-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EthicalPolitician** left.* [28-Jan-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theguywhomakeseverything** joined.* [28-Jan-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: hi neje86 how are you the governor of katoa [28-Jan-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: why [28-Jan-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: ? [28-Jan-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cuts_Phish** left.* [28-Jan-22 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The previous Governor disappeared and I volunteered [28-Jan-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: who was the previous governor? [28-Jan-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Derelict, of the company Debris [28-Jan-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have you played this before? [28-Jan-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: nope [28-Jan-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: i am new [28-Jan-22 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome then! [28-Jan-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Welcome lol! [28-Jan-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: 2 full load shipping ads on katoa lm [29-Jan-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone has a free FTL ship and wants some sweet government contracts please DM me; need trusted/active shipper for one or two urgent runs. Less than 2-3 days work. [29-Jan-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: throwin the weight around. gimme a few days to come back [29-Jan-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wobas28** left.* [29-Jan-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahaha gotta be some upsides to the gig, the last two guys got β€œdisappeared” [29-Jan-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Neke did you want me to dispose of Derelict same loc as Korbin? [29-Jan-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hes starting to stink in back of my ship [29-Jan-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes please [29-Jan-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: roger [29-Jan-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Space them both in Proxion space and make it look like an accident [29-Jan-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: faulty airlock, check :-) [29-Jan-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wait this isnt DM, Initiate Signal scrambler, there thats bet........*Signal Lost* [29-Jan-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahaha [29-Jan-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Should still be able to delete the messages ;) [29-Jan-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DSaulius** joined.* [29-Jan-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user53857acf08** left.* [29-Jan-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Too late, messages recorded and archived. [29-Jan-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Though there is a possibility the recordings could be misplaced... [29-Jan-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay but least blackmail me in dm this time [29-Jan-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: One does not become become Governor with out having a few skeletons in the airlock [29-Jan-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: LOL [29-Jan-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: good stuff [29-Jan-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ttoxyf** joined.* [29-Jan-22 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***racin36er** joined.* [29-Jan-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***5h4d0w** joined.* [30-Jan-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: ???? [30-Jan-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: What's a good planet to harvest H from? [30-Jan-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: cb-282d [30-Jan-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: it's pretty close to BEN and only requires INS. [30-Jan-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: But you can alway buy from someone who already has a base there. For example me :-D [30-Jan-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexander.Verbeek** left.* [30-Jan-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Buying is a good premise, H is available at the moemnt :) [30-Jan-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks to @Joronimo for generous donations of DEC and SOI to the PAR upkeep :) [30-Jan-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** joined.* [30-Jan-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** left.* [30-Jan-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Tax revenue came in today and thanks to a combindation of bad timing and pro-rating, the sum was only 18,300 CIS. Better luck next week hopefully. [30-Jan-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: My best guesstimate is that next week, tax revenue will be in the range of 65k to 80k CIS. [30-Jan-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Based on slight discounts to the market rate, full COGC/SST/INF and partial PAR upkeep amounts to about 120k per week. [30-Jan-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [30-Jan-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The next two upcoming items for upkeep are: [30-Jan-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC in 6 days. I will message then about collecting DW, MCG, PE, and RAT. [30-Jan-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [30-Jan-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** joined.* [31-Jan-22 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 72 hours in, I've taken 418,700 in donations and tax revenue, spent 120,400 on upgrades and 300,000 stocking up 2-4 weeks of all materials we need to focus on Health and Safety for PIO-SET-TEC base. I've also personally setup infrastructure cover quite a few of our needs moving forward. The biggest donors were @PiBoy314 and @Gravy. With notable contributions in material from @Joronimo. Another half a dozen players contributed on a smaller but equally appreciated scale. I'll start dialing back the updates now until the next tax cycle. [31-Jan-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and i hid the bodies [31-Jan-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: but no never get thanks for that in official announcement [31-Jan-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrJoy** left.* [31-Jan-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: lol [31-Jan-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dodomixon** joined.* [31-Jan-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Hiding bodies? That is what INC are for. [31-Jan-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** left.* [31-Jan-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** joined.* [31-Jan-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***godfatherbobo** left.* [31-Jan-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I have 4 INC, but even that cant keep up with the bodies Neke leaves at my door sometimes [31-Jan-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: like pet cats leave birds on the door step? [31-Jan-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Karr that’s a very special contract that doesn’t appear in the public audits [31-Jan-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it’s just overflow from the 8 INC i run myself ;) [31-Jan-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnHay** joined.* [31-Jan-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: You know how the ancients were taxed? [31-Jan-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: The richest paid the most as a matter of honor and pride [31-Jan-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: And their names were thrown up on billboards and scrolls flaunting their supremacy and being better than those beneath them [31-Jan-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: So I suggest guilt tripping the biggest bases on Katoa with daily updates here in Planet Chat [31-Jan-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Perelandra** left.* [31-Jan-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonathanS314** joined.* [01-Feb-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got a few units of HE to get me started? Accidentally setup the buildings before the shipments arrived. Will place a small ad on LM [01-Feb-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Done [01-Feb-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thanks Goresh! [01-Feb-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Hi i'm looking for a supplier of PCB, SEN and/or GC. Can anyone provide a stable supply? [01-Feb-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **scvalex**: I can sell you 350 GC now, but it's not a stable supply. [01-Feb-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deafening-Whisper** left.* [01-Feb-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnHay** left.* [01-Feb-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonathanS314** left.* [01-Feb-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***growin** joined.* [01-Feb-22 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPI: The lastest POPR just dropped and shows a mild improvement but demonstrates that the SST/INF needs upgrading and likely the PAR as well. I’ll look at that over the coming days so if you have UPGRADE materials for those please reach out to me :) [01-Feb-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Some population drop too. Looks like a base moved [01-Feb-22 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Uh yeah it was that [01-Feb-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not all my political prisoners stuffed into a freighter for Nova Honshu [01-Feb-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Murple** left.* [01-Feb-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Looking for transportation jobs? Check LM CB-282D for transports to Katoa, BEN and MOR. [01-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay guys, I've just scoped out upgrading our POPI and at market rates it's going to cost about 440,000. At fairer but good prices, it's closer to 330,000. [01-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need to come up with the following list [01-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BBH 89 BDE 89 BSE 61 BTA 36 MCG 1,168 TRU 29 SOI 120 HAB 6 [01-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you wish to help in any way, either through direct fab donations, fab sales, or cash donations, please contact me [02-Feb-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Please don't slap that ask [02-Feb-22 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: hi [02-Feb-22 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No I can’t afford to and the 18,300 in taxes we raised isn’t going to cover it hahaha [02-Feb-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just posted 10k CIS for a full load MOR to KAT if anyone could grab it! Broke it down into smaller parts in case you're not travelling empty [02-Feb-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you want the full 500 in NCC let me know and I'll repost it [02-Feb-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** left.* [02-Feb-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hoff** left.* [02-Feb-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fl4v14n** joined.* [02-Feb-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: if you are on your way to MOR there are several packages from the station to make a nice roundtrip. Be sure to grab my 1k [02-Feb-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **5h4d0w**: I'm at MOR right now but I don't see any shipping contracts I could fufill [02-Feb-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Most are listed on the Katoa LM [02-Feb-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOV: I'm proposing the following changes to local rules: [02-Feb-22 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1. The Katoa WAR fee will be reduced from 500 back to 100, and I will advertise this on Discord and try to drum up some off-world business for our Manufacturing COGC. [02-Feb-22 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2. The LM fees will be adjusted to favor short term ads and charge a premium on long term ads left cluttering the LM. The fee structure will change from 50/3 to 30/10. Under this new structure, one and two day ads will cost less, three and more will cost more. [02-Feb-22 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3. Taxes will be raised on Manufacturing (40), Resource Extraction (30), and Fuel Refining (30). The rest will remain at 20. [02-Feb-22 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The proposed changes will take effect in 20-28 hours. [02-Feb-22 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: END GOV. [02-Feb-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeadJaneDoe** joined.* [02-Feb-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user98ae58b802** left.* [02-Feb-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: fucker [02-Feb-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: wow thats a steep raise. [02-Feb-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: for me personally both parts of my production are being hit, what is the plan for the use of this tax money @neke86 [02-Feb-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Which two parts? Is one of them the 25% COGC? [02-Feb-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The plan is to raise our POPR above "languishing" which is going to need about 330-400k. We currently raise about 60-70/wk [02-Feb-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Most of which goes to Upkeep, nothing for Upgrades [02-Feb-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The next few weeks of upgrades were funded by three individuals alone :) [02-Feb-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: next few weeks of *upkeep [02-Feb-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For what it's worth, most of my income is Manufacturing (16 BMPs, PPFs) so it will be coming from me too. [02-Feb-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you go to FINIS and check out the Production Fees row you can get a better feel for what the tax changes might cost you. I've got a thousand area base and it's only going to cost me 5-7k in extra fees per period....... [02-Feb-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not even that actually [02-Feb-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And to answer your question @BlueHeeler : Yes, that's right. [02-Feb-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you scroll up half a screen @InterplanetaryWhisky you'll see exactly what it's to be spent on when I outline the building upgrades, the shopping list and the materials required. [02-Feb-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nomain** left.* [02-Feb-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @DocWatz for a 27k value donation of SOI to the PAR upgrade [02-Feb-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: WTB AMM ads on LM [02-Feb-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're making contributions to any of our infrastructure please drop me a message so I can keep track and offer payment :) [02-Feb-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPID p-UV-351a t-INF [02-Feb-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPID p-UV-351a t-SST [02-Feb-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPID p-UV-351a t-PAR [03-Feb-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarlanor** joined.* [03-Feb-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***plmsw12** joined.* [03-Feb-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thog** left.* [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Top funders of Katoa, by net out-of-pocket [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @PiBoy314 278500 CIS [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Gravy 150000 CIS [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @neke86 59330 CIS [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Joronimo 57600 CIS [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @DocWatz 27000 CIS [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silenttelecast** joined.* [03-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @McCowen @NoxW @Pantalaimon @Goresh (5,000 - 10,000 CIS) [03-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I still need to raise these items: [03-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BBH 29 BDE 89 BSE 40 BTA 36 TRU 29 HAB 6 [03-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or about 200k in funding [03-Feb-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Government ads for the PAR upgrade fabs are on the LM with a rating of 'E' for visibility if anyone wishes to fill them [03-Feb-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gc313** left.* [03-Feb-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @neke86 - the HAB could be a bit of a challenge, but I'll see if I can work on sourcing the b-fabs to start production on a couple at least [03-Feb-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol90**: hi [03-Feb-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay @DocWatz, I'm following the HAB discussion in Discord. Once it's sourced and donated I'll look at offsetting your personal input a bit. [03-Feb-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EJsoccer74** joined.* [03-Feb-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EJsoccer74** left.* [03-Feb-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EJsoccer74** joined.* [04-Feb-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zyrotech** left.* [04-Feb-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KanoniarzXD** joined.* [04-Feb-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roxsu** joined.* [05-Feb-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***broly** joined.* [05-Feb-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Metze** joined.* [05-Feb-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kurubase** joined.* [05-Feb-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Victoire21** joined.* [05-Feb-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The COGC upkeep is due again, please head over and see what you can donate then message me to arrange payment :) [05-Feb-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Looking for 70 MAI and 180 GRN. Can someone sell me that? [05-Feb-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The whole COGC cycle was supplied in just six hours, thank you guys. Please do not hesitate to ping me to arrange payment [05-Feb-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: awesome work everyone [05-Feb-22 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***growin** left.* [05-Feb-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xanderlight** left.* [05-Feb-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone after BHP? Am selling there here on Katoa [06-Feb-22 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***izumin** joined.* [06-Feb-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: do you have to be at a shipyard to repair? [06-Feb-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: At one of your bases. [06-Feb-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Iranon** joined.* [06-Feb-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Iranon** left.* [06-Feb-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theguywhomakeseverything** left.* [06-Feb-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: thx [06-Feb-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's why I'm selling them here @durandal ! [06-Feb-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **durandal**: ah, i will buy from you next time then =0 [06-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Tax revenue this week was hugely improved, we raised 159K CIS which I've put back into the upgrades as designated. We're still heavily relying on a small number of large donors. [06-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The projects are going well, as follows: [06-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPID p-UV-351a t-SST [Requires: 17 TRU, 18 BDE] [06-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPID p-UV-351a t-INF [Requires: 19 BBH, 29 BDE, 10 BTA, 12 TRU] [06-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPID p-UV-351a t-PAR [Requires: 6 HAB] [06-Feb-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you have those items available for the infrastructure, as donations or paid, please follow those buffers and add them then contact me for payment. [06-Feb-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Tracking all the donations is too difficult with this GUI so if you don't contact me, I will count it as a donation :) [06-Feb-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fresh H2O on the CX again, 3,000 units. [06-Feb-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EJsoccer74** left.* [06-Feb-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EJsoccer74** joined.* [06-Feb-22 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EJsoccer74** left.* [06-Feb-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to MOR cx for 6k cis on lm [07-Feb-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** joined.* [07-Feb-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The SST is upgraded and the INF is not far behind. [07-Feb-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Still looking for GRN on Katoa. Anybody able to sell me some? Maybe around 70 [07-Feb-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rasd** deleted this message.* [07-Feb-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uhus** left.* [07-Feb-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The INF is very close now, just waiting on: [07-Feb-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 15 BBH [07-Feb-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3 BDE [07-Feb-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 4 BTA [07-Feb-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you have those available please contribute them, I'll pay 1,200, 900, 900 respectively if you can't afford to donate them [07-Feb-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also looking for SUN (200/u) and DW (30/u) for the SST upkeep [07-Feb-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you @daemeus for the lot [07-Feb-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: NP, happened to have a bunch of BFabs laying around and checked chat at the right time [07-Feb-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The SST and INF have both been upgraded. The PAR is all but arranged and the timeline for that is out of my hands. I will be spending the next revenue cycle on upkeep and monitoring how this new infrastructure actually goes. END [07-Feb-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @neke86 - for the HAB, all of the inputs are under contract to be delivered soon, roughly 48 hours to having them on Katoa and will start production - hopefully I can have it all finished before next week's POPR :) [07-Feb-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll directly contribute them thanks to the pre-arranged financing for them :) [07-Feb-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks Doc for the update, that's great news [07-Feb-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We're on track! [07-Feb-22 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icantthinkofaname** left.* [07-Feb-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user65d59ae8d4** left.* [07-Feb-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP on the LM, available for immediate fulfillment. [08-Feb-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adi_pl** joined.* [08-Feb-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: 2 BBH on LM above current CXL if anyone can help a fast flip! thanks :) [08-Feb-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: could probably fulfill in about 15 hours or so... [08-Feb-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: if still there in 15 feel free tessaract thanks :) appreciate the thought and note! Trying to get a fast flip this morning over coffee :) [08-Feb-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: oh, sorry misread that... [08-Feb-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: its ok :) [08-Feb-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: I can always use more [08-Feb-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***czechtric** joined.* [08-Feb-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dodomixon** left.* [08-Feb-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone here sitting on AL they'd like to sell? [08-Feb-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone got PG available? [08-Feb-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: If you urgently need either, I could sell some. [08-Feb-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can I grab 500 PG? [08-Feb-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahzeek** joined.* [08-Feb-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The latest POPR has been released and the numbers are looking vastly improved. My assessment is that we need one more SST, but that the two INFs we have are sufficient and when the second PAR is delivered that too will be enough for the time being. We had net additions of 89 TEC and 5 ENG. [08-Feb-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahzeek** left.* [08-Feb-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On POPI. The next upkeeps I'm going to need to source are OFF for the INF and SST (though we have two weeks worth). I'll need some TUB as well, but I have sorted STR. For the SST we're good for SUN thanks to @Pantalaimon but if anyone has bulk DW, we'll need large quantities before 10 days is up. The PAR is relatively sorted. [08-Feb-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I have 200 TUB en route to Proxion that can make their way to Katoa in the next few days! [08-Feb-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The SST upgrade is going to need 50 BBH, 50 BDE, 25 BSE, 12 BTA, 622 MCG, and 21 TRU - I won't be funding that out of pocket this time and will accumulate using tax revenue or donations. [08-Feb-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: How much DW is "bulk" DW...and what price are you thinking to stay in budget? [08-Feb-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can bring that TUB over from Proxion if that helps [08-Feb-22 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd like to buy 1,000 DW under 30/u if I can manage it. Tax revenue doesn't cover it yet so there's no budget haha [08-Feb-22 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll do no higher than 25 for you, oh mighty Gov'na! [08-Feb-22 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay live updates, we've just taken sizeable OFF donations from @Joronimo so that's no longer a requirement. [08-Feb-22 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Awesome Doc, we can LM that now if that suits you? [08-Feb-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I'll need about a day or so to move it over from Proxion, but happy to set it up [08-Feb-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can set it up then you can fill in your own time [08-Feb-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll go put up a buy [08-Feb-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: When the update drops...let me know what the cost of the ENG recruitment program is and I'll help finance that [08-Feb-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have a few interested parties so I'll source it evenly [08-Feb-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: You're doing father katoa proud neke [08-Feb-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: :) [08-Feb-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: dibs on financing this as well. ;) [08-Feb-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks Whisky hahaha [08-Feb-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I try to be the sort of Governor derelict would have been if he hadn't succumbed to a tragic airlock accident on one of my Guild freighters [08-Feb-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you wish to support the effort tangentially, I'm selling O and SIO on the LM at fair rates better than the CX. That cashflow goes back into the kitty for the planet, and you get O/SIO if that's the sort of thing you're after :) [08-Feb-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: I can take 100 O off your hands to help further the cause @neke! [08-Feb-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay gimme a bit and I’ll break up that ad I posted [08-Feb-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Subtantial buy orders for fabs on the LM (BBH.CI1, BDE.CI1, BSE.CI1, BTA,CI1, LDE.CI1, LSE.CI1, LTA.CI1) willing to negotiate or improve on those prices for bulk supply. [08-Feb-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hunter_cat** joined.* [08-Feb-22 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: @neke86 With your planet upgrades I'm thinking of staying here and ship building [08-Feb-22 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Join me! [08-Feb-22 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's a few people here completing parts of that, I'm personally running the auxiliary buildings that don't benefit from Manufacturing (HWP, WEL) and on Etherwind a large and growing Furnace-farm for GENs :) [08-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Anybody need a ship run up to the CX? got 450 tons available [08-Feb-22 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If it's not urgent why not just post the shipping with rating A [08-Feb-22 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll grab it on my cycle :) [08-Feb-22 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: wanna keep moving. no trade is bad trade [09-Feb-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So long as you factor in the fuel and hull damage :) [09-Feb-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Barramiin**: Dear neighbor; [09-Feb-22 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Barramiin**: I tottally failed when I order some material for my base ... I miss one BDE ... I just post on the LM a contract for 1 piece. If someone would be able to help me =D thanks [09-Feb-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hermanek** joined.* [09-Feb-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** left.* [09-Feb-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Any shipping for Kat > Ben? [09-Feb-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from ben cx to katoa posted on katoa lm [10-Feb-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cxo05** joined.* [10-Feb-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PredatorBeing** joined.* [10-Feb-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dionysus** joined.* [10-Feb-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nicrom** joined.* [10-Feb-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leanna** joined.* [10-Feb-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bl4t4andtLier** joined.* [10-Feb-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anaklusmos** joined.* [10-Feb-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: If you have read and understand the new taxation system released in Atlas, and you have some suggestions on what (if any) changes to implement on Katoa, please make yourself heard :) Soliciting input over the coming days before doing anything. [10-Feb-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Izidir** left.* [10-Feb-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vixen** joined.* [10-Feb-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NinjaCat** joined.* [10-Feb-22 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chaldon** deleted this message.* [10-Feb-22 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: So what manufacturing should a new player with only pioneers, a self-sufficient base, with 270 space focus on [10-Feb-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Most of the low tier manufacturing items are quite saturated at the moment (although OVE looks like it might be clearing up) [10-Feb-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hit me up in DM if you wish to discuss in more detail, or Discord [10-Feb-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm off to Yannick to finalise the construction of CHAOM's second STL freighter in the Benten system. The Guild Freighter SPARROW will join her sister ship, the FALCON in about 10-12 hours. These ships will be running near constant loops around Benten space, please utilize this high-fidelity high-availability and fast service by placing shipping ads with a required rating of "A" and a rate of 5-8 cis/tm3 with a minimum of 50 cis. The ships can be chartered for a competitive rate on demand. [11-Feb-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I brought AR instead of AL [11-Feb-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: stupid colours... [11-Feb-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemberg** joined.* [11-Feb-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apexia** joined.* [11-Feb-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: The new colors do confuse me often. End up needing to triple check every time [11-Feb-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: Whats a fair Katoa->ANT shipping payment these days? [11-Feb-22 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just took an 8500 AIC fare BEN>ANT [11-Feb-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is there anyone reading my Governance updates that IS NOT also using Discord? Reply or make yourself known because I’m considering moving it all there where it’s much easier to share information and take polls etc. [11-Feb-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I mainly read stuff here in the chat, but if you want to move it to discord, it is fine for me. Then i'll check discord more regulary. [11-Feb-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i read here mostly ust as a ntoher eason to be on here as sometimes waiting for stuff tohappen, but discord only would be fine to me also [11-Feb-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks guys [11-Feb-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: do you have any plans on how to produce HABs for the PAR upgrade? [11-Feb-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Solomani** joined.* [11-Feb-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hunter_cat**: Where on discord can I find you? I only know of the main PU server [11-Feb-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The HABs are sourced but waiting on delivery [11-Feb-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On the UFO server, ask in main PrUn help chat and someone will link you [11-Feb-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hunter_cat**: Thanks [11-Feb-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: can I get that link too? [11-Feb-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: or invite, rather... [11-Feb-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hunter_cat**: its Unified Faction Operations from PU wiki. wiki page link here: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ Community Resources :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [11-Feb-22 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tex2063** joined.* [11-Feb-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I don't use discord much but if updates were there, I wouldn't mind. Requesting that you state when there are such governance updates here if it won't be too much trouble [11-Feb-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes I can keep major items to here, not much interactivity that’s all [11-Feb-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I was thinking more of a reminder that there was a discord update [11-Feb-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: 1st HAB contributed. I'll keep putting them in as finished - probably will not make the next POPR, but should be finished very close... [12-Feb-22 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Michael_Le41** joined.* [12-Feb-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: can anyone saell me 2x BTA on LM, forgot t ograb some from cxl [12-Feb-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy order placed at higher than CXL price [12-Feb-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7bc6ac2e3e** left.* [12-Feb-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9cf103502d** left.* [12-Feb-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user12fcf19c59** left.* [12-Feb-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KanoniarzXD** left.* [12-Feb-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phauxe** joined.* [12-Feb-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 42 BHP locally on Katoa if anyone is interested [12-Feb-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can also do orders for LHP [12-Feb-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got 6 BBH ican grab on lm? ill put a buy order up [12-Feb-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can do at 1400/u [12-Feb-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got it :) [12-Feb-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks dude, 1500 is fine [12-Feb-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: perfect [12-Feb-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: can fund your next C purchase mwahahaha [12-Feb-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ;) [12-Feb-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In one pocket, out the other [12-Feb-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: infact i need some more PE if available, have ewxpanded to 4 PP1 [12-Feb-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure, I can’t do a BDE buy back at the moment but happy to supply your PE [12-Feb-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah np, let me ork out how much i cna afford and ill place a buy order shortly [12-Feb-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ack [12-Feb-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve got 43k PE on hand so don’t go too wild ;) [12-Feb-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: lol i waso nly gona say like 2000 hahahaha [12-Feb-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ad up [12-Feb-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: did you want me to stoc k pile the BDEs or can i sell some to cxl etc? [12-Feb-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yours to sell [12-Feb-22 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: TAXES: Minor tweak to the taxes (good news for Fuel and Resources) to spread the load more attentively as per the new tiered taxation system. Manufacturing remains targeted for slightly higher tax, along with increases stepping up with SET, TEC, ENG etc None of them punitively so and shouldn't affect any individual players [12-Feb-22 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LennonNYC** joined.* [13-Feb-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Sarantia is that FOD for the PAR upkeep? [13-Feb-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Wondering how people compute their shipping rates. Anyone bold enough to leak company secrets? [13-Feb-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Egeis** joined.* [13-Feb-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Series of Katoa -> Ben shipping adverts up [13-Feb-22 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Clown** joined.* [13-Feb-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Victoire21** left.* [13-Feb-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdaf9f338c5** left.* [13-Feb-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sephiroth** joined.* [13-Feb-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SakulAt** left.* [13-Feb-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BatFish** left.* [13-Feb-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: Looking for a fast fill. 2 BBH @ 20% over CXL price posted. thx! [13-Feb-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5de4fc47a6** left.* [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***emanyalpsid** joined.* [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: So the glass engines are the ones to aim at? [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: What are realistic new player ship plans? [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: glass ships yes [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: but larger ships are coming up [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: realistic right now is 450-550k for a glass STL ship [13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But you'd want a specific use-case as it's only for use in one system [13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: So how much for a ship, Nek? Can I get one on layaway? [13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: I don't have a year to build a ship [13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't sell whole ships, though I can produce the hull plates, and I've almost finished an engine :) [13-Feb-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And I can do the SSC [13-Feb-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: lol, right on [13-Feb-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So you'd need to source the UPF items such as the crew quarters, bridge, and storage [13-Feb-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some of those are even on the CX, although a bit of a price premium [13-Feb-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're serious about buying a ship and have half a mil lying around probably talk to @DocWatz they have a backlog but in combination with what I can produce maybe they have capacity [13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Tax revenue has come in nicely and allowed for the purchase of STR, FOD, and DEC - the consumables closest to depletion - that should get us back to a minimum of 15-16 days per POPI. I expect if revenue remains strong that next week I can use the surplus to fund the SST upgrade that didn't happen this cycle. [14-Feb-22 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: at least SOMEBODY has a plan [14-Feb-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And some wealthy donors to keep happy ;) [14-Feb-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roxsu** left.* [14-Feb-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qarci** joined.* [14-Feb-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yeanke** joined.* [14-Feb-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jmWorks** joined.* [14-Feb-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***soyouze** joined.* [14-Feb-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SST level up. Used my own fabs to bring it forward a cycle. We'll need cheap/donated upkeep if you can spare a few OFF/SUN/DW :) [14-Feb-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0ceced83df** left.* [14-Feb-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody want BHP before I start shipping it off world? 74 available at 1800. 40 LHP coming up in 29hrs as well, price negotiable. [14-Feb-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deathmetalphilosophy** joined.* [14-Feb-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirskimore1** joined.* [14-Feb-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: leaving for umbra later today if anyone needs a haul [14-Feb-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6341bff288** left.* [14-Feb-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf3dea042be** left.* [14-Feb-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cbnoble** joined.* [14-Feb-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: ok [14-Feb-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: UPKEEP: With none forthcoming from other sources I've procured ~1,000 OFF from the market for SST/INF upkeep. That'll push us out to a month for that and aside from SOI/PFE was our upcoming weak link. [14-Feb-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC opens in 12 hours so I'll be looking for donations - please ping me if you donate so that I can record it. [14-Feb-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've also procured an am shipping the TUB and STR from my own outputs. [14-Feb-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Everything will be pushed to ~25-30 days supply except for DEC, PFE, and SOI. [14-Feb-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm 253K in the red on Government expenses so will be waiting for the next dividend and attempting COGC via donations [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The list of donors since I took office stands at this: [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Joronimo 366700 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @PiBoy314 315500 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @neke86 253866 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Gravy 189205 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [14-Feb-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @DocWatz 87000 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Pantalaimon 54160 CIS * pending payment [14-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @daemeus 25050 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @McCowen 11680 CIS [14-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's everyone over 10k, there is a raft of smaller contributors I also appreciate! [14-Feb-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For perspective, all revenue collected for the same period was 412,060 CIS to date. [14-Feb-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: END. [15-Feb-22 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @neke86 Thanks for all your effort and the detailed information. I'll try to produce some OFF for the upkeep, so we don't have to buy it from market. [15-Feb-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks that would be great! [15-Feb-22 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 40 BHP available, because I’m not sure how many people need in any one sale I’ll stop posting sells and start filling buys (1800/u) [15-Feb-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to sell me some MCG on LM? [15-Feb-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have 124 at hand [15-Feb-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 18/u [15-Feb-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spoingo** left.* [15-Feb-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yes please, ill place buy order [15-Feb-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [15-Feb-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: For those in the market for GAL, I'm looking to do a one time sale of 2000 units at 50/unit. If you are interested please PM me in game or on discord [15-Feb-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MyMumIsAstronaut** joined.* [15-Feb-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gdocm2** joined.* [15-Feb-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone need H2O here? Send me a DM [15-Feb-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MyMumIsAstronaut** left.* [15-Feb-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: COGC is open for contributions folks, please drop by if you have RAT/DW/MCG/PE [15-Feb-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DanX**: Completed the DW needs (657) [15-Feb-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many thanks Dan [15-Feb-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Im over here wondering if my 50 will last my timers [15-Feb-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No need to donate if you're smaller businesses or hard up on stock :) Plenty of people on Katoa to help out, and of course, I'll cover us in the end [15-Feb-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I do appreciate and have noted your donations though @Chaldon [15-Feb-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: POPR just released and it's looking excellent. Unfortunately the PAR upgrade narrowly missed the deadline so comfort didn't get quite the boost we're after but it will be done in hours so definitely for next time. Health and safety are way up, and we welcome SIXTY new Engineers, which is 10 from education (a record) and 50 from the migration program. I'll be taking suggestions on what program to run next and favoring those that come pre-funded :) [15-Feb-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: get the production boosted? [15-Feb-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's no program for boosting production - that's handled by the COGC [15-Feb-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: @neke86 dropped 426 RAT and 488 MCG on the COGC. [15-Feb-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you! [15-Feb-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Don't have the PE at the moment... [15-Feb-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Actually I'll do the PE now [15-Feb-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rockrhino** joined.* [15-Feb-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The COGC is now funded, thank you to every contributor! [16-Feb-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adi_pl** left.* [16-Feb-22 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Can somebody sell me 20 EPO? [16-Feb-22 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: or 40 OFF :-) [16-Feb-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrustN00ne** left.* [16-Feb-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Just doin my part [16-Feb-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlfiePalfie** joined.* [16-Feb-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4793b636dd** left.* [16-Feb-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EcoRiptide** joined.* [16-Feb-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***czechtric** left.* [16-Feb-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TessaMae** joined.* [16-Feb-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xmanek** left.* [16-Feb-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Water has been reset at the CX at 20/u, I had to raise it temporarily due to shipping isses that have now cleared. I am still providing a 16/u price floor to try and attract supply from EW but generally speaking there is little/none coming. [16-Feb-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you ever have a ship free and wish to make an easy 10k on a 36hr round trip, I generally have a boatload of water requiring moving to benten station at any time [17-Feb-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StraightErro** left.* [17-Feb-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***swordcz** left.* [17-Feb-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got any spare NUT they could sell me on LM, messed up my production hehe [17-Feb-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***plmsw12** left.* [17-Feb-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: How much? [17-Feb-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: NUT [17-Feb-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much you got? and how much per unit? [17-Feb-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: CX price 91/u [17-Feb-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: say 50? [17-Feb-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: perfect yes ty [17-Feb-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: want me to place buy order? [17-Feb-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Yep [17-Feb-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: up [17-Feb-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [17-Feb-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: NP [17-Feb-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Corlis** left.* [17-Feb-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ctulu** joined.* [17-Feb-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: I've chosen FESTIVITIES II for the next Program to boost all workers happiness by 10% and funded it myself. [17-Feb-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: any PE available on LM? [17-Feb-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can do it for 3.5 save u the trip [17-Feb-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 10000? [17-Feb-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or any amount up tothat [17-Feb-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can only do about 5k sorry [17-Feb-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anymore will break my supply chain [17-Feb-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 5k is fine [17-Feb-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: which would cost about 5.5u :) [17-Feb-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: chuck up a buy [17-Feb-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: itsok i cna wait till tomorrow and grab from cxl, 5.5 is a bit expensive for me [17-Feb-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wait I meant anything over 5k units [17-Feb-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ah ok so 5000 at 3.5 ill add buy in a sec [17-Feb-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty governor [17-Feb-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was saying that if you wanted the next 5k, that would break my supply chain, buildings run dry etc [17-Feb-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so any sale would have to be at the marked up value [17-Feb-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sure np [17-Feb-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 500t/500m capacity available for Benten Station to Katoa if anybody is interested [17-Feb-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: need any C or BDE? [17-Feb-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not me, I've got a huge tidal wave of BDE coming :P [17-Feb-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh ok np, just checking befoe i ship to cxls [17-Feb-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will you have space to take cargo up to the CX? [17-Feb-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sorry was full so has headed out [17-Feb-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no worries [17-Feb-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cant believe nobody wants my LM DW [17-Feb-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***karr1981** deleted this message.* [17-Feb-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***karr1981** deleted this message.* [17-Feb-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***karr1981** deleted this message.* [17-Feb-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: When was the last time maintenance was done on your airlock pressure seals? I can send a team over to assist? [17-Feb-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i said nothing [17-Feb-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LOL [17-Feb-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ;-) [17-Feb-22 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: got 100-150 rats on planet if somebody wants them for 50 each. make purchase order at LM [17-Feb-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: gonna sit there a few days while my ships come back [17-Feb-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 750t/750m (500+250) carrying capacity sitting at Benten Station untasked. If anybody wants a lot of stuff moved, hit me up [18-Feb-22 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OmegaRP** joined.* [18-Feb-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VEB152** left.* [18-Feb-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aligallaton** joined.* [18-Feb-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stethomic** joined.* [18-Feb-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capt.Jurislav** left.* [18-Feb-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mystist** joined.* [18-Feb-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: who was the perso to speak to about potential ship purchase? [18-Feb-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @docwatz [18-Feb-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And if he likes, I can help speed the process [18-Feb-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (already enough LHP for a ship up on the LM if you’re keen) [18-Feb-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Im about to deliver my first glass engine in the next 24hrs, it’s built and being delivered! [18-Feb-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leanna** left.* [18-Feb-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im saving now but i suspect im a weke or so away from affording it [18-Feb-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone selling pwo on lm? [18-Feb-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NinjaCat** left.* [18-Feb-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeroxpalace** joined.* [18-Feb-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How many you need [18-Feb-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***exhausted.t.cell** left.* [18-Feb-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone would like LFabs made, I can potentially be tasked for competitive pricing I have 4 PP2 sitting idle [18-Feb-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or Bfabs even [18-Feb-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: actually, I have 100 BDE for sale if anyone is interested [19-Feb-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scuro** joined.* [19-Feb-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToHynt** left.* [19-Feb-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cxo05** left.* [19-Feb-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loewnzaan** joined.* [19-Feb-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TreasureTracker** joined.* [19-Feb-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Anyone have a small amount of LST they would care to part with? [19-Feb-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have, how much you need? [19-Feb-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: 10-20? [19-Feb-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: You can post for 10-20 at 65/u [19-Feb-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I can't post on LM. If you post to sell at 70/U to cover fees I will buy. [19-Feb-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: posted [19-Feb-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Paid [19-Feb-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: And collected. Thankyou [19-Feb-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: your welcome! [19-Feb-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: Ah i just realised this chat was even a thing ;) [19-Feb-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: So, Hello neighbors! [19-Feb-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi scuro [19-Feb-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome! It most certainly is a thing :) [19-Feb-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Keep an eye on it [19-Feb-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Does somebody have COT to sell? [19-Feb-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I took down my WPLs ages ago, price collapsed and wasn’t worth it [19-Feb-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **McCowen**: Got COT! [19-Feb-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: how much? [19-Feb-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: per unit? [19-Feb-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **McCowen**: cx - 750 [19-Feb-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Priority shipping requests up for MOR > KAT (posted to Katoa LM) 3,000 CIS for <150tm3 [19-Feb-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: 8( i dont have the rating for it [19-Feb-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do you have a ship in Moria right now? [19-Feb-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: its only half way there [19-Feb-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How long until it gets there [19-Feb-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: 1 day [19-Feb-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: would take 3 to fulfill [19-Feb-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: taking 1 day 20 hours on minimum to mor [19-Feb-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: if you dont get anyone by tomorrow update ur order and ill grab it [19-Feb-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure! [19-Feb-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TyrannussVictor** joined.* [19-Feb-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20-30 GL available by negoatiation if anyone is interested please DM me [19-Feb-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tex2063** left.* [20-Feb-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: i picked it up [20-Feb-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: LM LS-231b, dammit I found some great deals at this LM. [20-Feb-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: but tied up with fast ship tuns. Ya'll better grab one or 2 [20-Feb-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: *runs [20-Feb-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: 17,000 AIC [20-Feb-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It’s a fair bit of damage on that route (back to Katoa anyway) at 0.8% round trip, and fuel intensive if you want it done under 36 hours that’s probably why [20-Feb-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: especislly if you’re paying market FF [20-Feb-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMi** joined.* [20-Feb-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: if anyone can help me out, I'm 4 TRU and 150 MCG short for a building repair. posted ads on the LM [20-Feb-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daemeus**: problem solved, thank you! [20-Feb-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RokyiuSs** left.* [20-Feb-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***revanistT3** left.* [20-Feb-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: seems like I've stumbled into logistics / transport for BEN <> Katoa rather than producing. My (2) starter ships will be arriving at BEN in 8 hours will be happy to transport goods back from BEN to Katoa if there are any shipping contracts. [20-Feb-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apexia** left.* [20-Feb-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Most traffic is KAT > BEN [20-Feb-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: less goes in the other direction [20-Feb-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (I have two STL ships dedicated to just the run between Katoa and Benten Station) [20-Feb-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you want to make better money on shipping please DM me, I have multiple planets within a few hops and need starter ships to haul :) [20-Feb-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And they'll never be far from home [20-Feb-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: I've placed the following CX bids for upcoming upkeep items that I can't fulfill myself: [20-Feb-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 250 SUN @ 180/u = 45.0K [20-Feb-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 260 OFF @ 30/u = 7.8K [20-Feb-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 140 PFE @ 250/u = 35.0K [20-Feb-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Those are current bids on the CX but if you can help me fill them here please let me know and I'll place a buy ad. [20-Feb-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We'll also need DEC if someone can make it. [20-Feb-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nicrom** left.* [20-Feb-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kobix** joined.* [20-Feb-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SCP-Faudation** joined.* [20-Feb-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: anyone willing to sell me some h20? messed up on planning ang got an inactive food processor lol [20-Feb-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how much [20-Feb-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh nvm I dont actually have any one kat planetside [20-Feb-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but probably specify for the next person [20-Feb-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: i only need like 50 [20-Feb-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: or less [20-Feb-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: noob troubles ;P [21-Feb-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CajunBob** joined.* [21-Feb-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @Scuro I have sent you a PM regrading the request for H2O. [21-Feb-22 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user70f42ba148** left.* [21-Feb-22 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DieNRetry** joined.* [21-Feb-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone have 80 MCG to spare? [21-Feb-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ad up at 30/u [21-Feb-22 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many thanks [21-Feb-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Your welcome :-) [21-Feb-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: any PE available on LM if i place buy order? [21-Feb-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and PWO / KOM [21-Feb-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PE @ 4 up to 3,000 units [21-Feb-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PWO up to 100 @ 125 [21-Feb-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not heavily discounted sorry as it's from my own stash :P [21-Feb-22 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np will place buys shortly [21-Feb-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [21-Feb-22 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I could sell you up to 700 PWO 110/u [21-Feb-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill take 50 from you pantalaimon, adding buy now [21-Feb-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok its up [21-Feb-22 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I was too slow :) [21-Feb-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np, ill message you in a few days if ineed more that ok? [21-Feb-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Sure no problem [21-Feb-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***acidsh0t** joined.* [21-Feb-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sephiroth** left.* [21-Feb-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in 50 units of RG? [21-Feb-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***emanyalpsid** left.* [22-Feb-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: 300 rats @ 50, make order [22-Feb-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure [22-Feb-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted.. [22-Feb-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: sold, delivered [22-Feb-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zultor** left.* [22-Feb-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qarci** left.* [22-Feb-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodanCZE** left.* [22-Feb-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Huge POPR result today citizens. Safety, health, and comfort are all over 80%. We've steadily recovered our population from the 81k range to nearly 100k including record SET and TEC numbers and excellent ENG growth. The POPI groundwork should mean even the ENG are happy folk. [22-Feb-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I chose Planetary Festivites for a happiness bump to all worker classes, and will review other program options for next time but I'm leaning towards education/training growth [23-Feb-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Thank you for your dedication govna [23-Feb-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PanzerKadaver** joined.* [23-Feb-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***idontknow321** left.* [23-Feb-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jmWorks** left.* [23-Feb-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gdocm2** left.* [23-Feb-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Martino_C** left.* [23-Feb-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: If anyone has a spare ship, there is a shipping ad on the LM to Umbra. Lots of other ads to pick up between the two planets as well. Note the delivery time. [23-Feb-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***erkasdragur** joined.* [23-Feb-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bester** left.* [23-Feb-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc79a0367a1** left.* [23-Feb-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bowdown2q** joined.* [23-Feb-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: PE needed, who wants some money :-) [23-Feb-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What volumes and prices are you offering [23-Feb-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ideally 9000 @4? [23-Feb-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've 8,500 on hand you can have at that [23-Feb-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty, advert up [23-Feb-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AaltjeJansen** joined.* [23-Feb-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have stocks of BHP and H2O planetside, if you wish to purchase please DM me. [23-Feb-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-._..-_.-.._.-..** joined.* [23-Feb-22 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OnlyCowardsUse** left.* [24-Feb-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bit128DS** joined.* [24-Feb-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Economan** joined.* [24-Feb-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone got 2 LTA for sale? [24-Feb-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [24-Feb-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Katoa to Station, space available [24-Feb-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: 5 min to liftoff, 400t available [25-Feb-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can anyone fill my H order on the LM? 185u [25-Feb-22 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i accepted and will fill tomorrow morning when a shipload arrives [25-Feb-22 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: if you are in a pickle until then i can sell you up to 100 right now [25-Feb-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: tomorrow is fine! [25-Feb-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yeetman21** joined.* [25-Feb-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Thank you for the re-election and vote of confidence guys :) [25-Feb-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ill keep on a similar track to the last term [25-Feb-22 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svexel** left.* [25-Feb-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slipvic** left.* [25-Feb-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slipvic** joined.* [25-Feb-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Anyone have 4 TRU and 100 MCG available ASAP - ads up @ 300/TRU and 15/MCG [25-Feb-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Delivered [25-Feb-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc36faa8806** left.* [25-Feb-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cebos** joined.* [26-Feb-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OmegaRP** left.* [26-Feb-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many thanks to our COGC donors @Sarantia @5h4d0w and @DrMambo :) [26-Feb-22 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cebos** left.* [26-Feb-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3676db493b** left.* [26-Feb-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lem** joined.* [26-Feb-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: two PE buy orders up @4 [26-Feb-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mystist** left.* [26-Feb-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ctulu** left.* [26-Feb-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ResidualSpace** joined.* [26-Feb-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nohl** joined.* [26-Feb-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Anyone need anything shipped from Benton Station to Katoa? [26-Feb-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hubstar1453** joined.* [27-Feb-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tumaria_Steelsmith** left.* [27-Feb-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone has a single INS, I’m short one and have an LM ad up :) [27-Feb-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hi everyone, I will soon have an STL ship for sale in Benten space. It’s a Glass Engine, has 500/500 cargo capacity and can come in either LHP or BHP as you prefer. The last pieces will take 5-7 days so I’m sending it to market now. If you’re interested, please drop me a DM with your hull preference, delivery location and an offer (in CIS only sorry). [27-Feb-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: Currently have 2 ships idling at Moria Station. DM if you have need for shipment services from Moria to Benten. [27-Feb-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im workign on building funds for an stl ship but probably ewont have enough for this one coming up [27-Feb-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stethomic** left.* [27-Feb-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **5h4d0w**: Ship heading out very soon Katoa -> Etherwind [27-Feb-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unbandit** joined.* [27-Feb-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TreasureTracker** left.* [27-Feb-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSoce** joined.* [27-Feb-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HansFlamme** left.* [28-Feb-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baijiu** joined.* [28-Feb-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Agecom** joined.* [28-Feb-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolves_Byte23** joined.* [28-Feb-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Viloman17** joined.* [28-Feb-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaglak** joined.* [28-Feb-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: can anyone hel pwith the following on LM, i need 8 MFK, 6 TRU, 4 UTS and 5 BTA [28-Feb-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: to save me going to cxl [28-Feb-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you buy it on the CX I can bring it all back quickly/cheaply for you [28-Feb-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have a freighter there [28-Feb-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have everything but UTS actually [28-Feb-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: post some buys :) [28-Feb-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok one sec [28-Feb-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and TRU? [28-Feb-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep just chekcign price [28-Feb-22 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok tru up [28-Feb-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty sir [28-Feb-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can make you UTS, but 36hrs im afraid [28-Feb-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah thats fine, im happy ot pay now if you want ? [28-Feb-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ill setup a sell [28-Feb-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one moment [28-Feb-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [28-Feb-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [28-Feb-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got 10 MCG and 1 LBH? [28-Feb-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Doing a quick base re-org [28-Feb-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ads posted :) [28-Feb-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ========== [28-Feb-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP on fire sale, 24 units at 1600/u. Post buys and let me know. 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[01-Mar-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Just put up an ad and i will fullfill it [01-Mar-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***5h4d0w** deleted this message.* [01-Mar-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **5h4d0w**: Ad is up for 2 @ 720 @Pantalaimon [01-Mar-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Seems, someone was faster than me. :) [01-Mar-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Water and PIO/SET cons up on the LM :) [01-Mar-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All available for fulfillment [01-Mar-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and I also have >20 each of BBH, BDE, BSE, BTA [01-Mar-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And can do LFabs on demand at attractive prices [01-Mar-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HeilDaChief** left.* [01-Mar-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: If anyone needs anything from Moria, please let me know. I have 2 ships en route that may have cargo space available for return trip to Benten [01-Mar-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: i need someone to buy my C or AMM on lm, i do not have money to use my buildings xD [01-Mar-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Taxes here are dreadful you gotta watch ur cashflow [01-Mar-22 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you have feedback on this latest POPR please let me know :) [01-Mar-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Psyhisori** joined.* [01-Mar-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 500+250 t/m3 carrying capacity for the KAT > BEN CX route, and [01-Mar-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 150tm3 for KAT > PRX [02-Mar-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: its just i get payed mostly in NCC, its a little bit of a problem sometimes :D [02-Mar-22 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeefFlavor** joined.* [02-Mar-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VirtualVadim** joined.* [02-Mar-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CajunBob** left.* [02-Mar-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RealGuyBestGuy** left.* [02-Mar-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AsharaTheDeath** left.* [02-Mar-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone got a ship available for a 24hr round trip paying 6K ? 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[05-Mar-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **cesarGMFA**: hi, talk you tomorrow. i'm going to sleep [05-Mar-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ARS** joined.* [05-Mar-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***__Alex__17** joined.* [05-Mar-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seraph_Azaph** joined.* [05-Mar-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JuanCarlone** joined.* [05-Mar-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caoscat33** joined.* [05-Mar-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: About to depart BEN station for Katoa, anyone have anything they need shipped from their? 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I'm doing a big run down on my last shipment of AUO before I dismantle my SME's and FS's so chirp up if you want this [06-Mar-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Forza** joined.* [07-Mar-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ttok** joined.* [07-Mar-22 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Random3141** left.* [07-Mar-22 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jaimeempresario** joined.* [07-Mar-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frayson** left.* [07-Mar-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CARBONX** joined.* [07-Mar-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver2030** joined.* [07-Mar-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: anyone has GL here for sale? [07-Mar-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no stock on hand but I do make it [07-Mar-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nohl** left.* [07-Mar-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***byck87** left.* [07-Mar-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Destructor2462** joined.* [07-Mar-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Can anyone provide me with 23 LDE? [07-Mar-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: what time frame? [07-Mar-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: In the next three days? [07-Mar-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure, I just need to acquire some NL (which I can do) [07-Mar-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I have 16 NL in stock [07-Mar-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: How much do you want per LDE? [07-Mar-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll quote you based on the NL price when I secure it? [07-Mar-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cheaper for you that way :) [07-Mar-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 10 you can have right now for 3.300 ? [07-Mar-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the other 13 might differ slightly [07-Mar-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Won't be able to deliver within 3 days soz [07-Mar-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well, can't guarantee it anyway [07-Mar-22 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 3,000 DW coming to Katoa in 90 minutes [07-Mar-22 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you would like some, I'll fill any orders on the LM over 45 [08-Mar-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ritteruk**: @Aldin how much GL do you need, I have 700 sat on Umbra atm. [08-Mar-22 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baijiu** left.* [08-Mar-22 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: I managed to find a courier ctr for GL, thnx [08-Mar-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaimeba07** joined.* [08-Mar-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ttok** left.* [08-Mar-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FUSERat** joined.* [08-Mar-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc2939225ab** left.* [08-Mar-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cimborrio1** joined.* [08-Mar-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolves_Byte23** left.* [08-Mar-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have an STL ship for sale, if you're interested, I'm accepting bids over 475k CIS (I might accept NCC?) [08-Mar-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's based on LHP, though if you really want I can requote for BHP. All the items can be delivered within 2-3 days. [08-Mar-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lennyer** joined.* [08-Mar-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Very cheap DW.CI1 available [08-Mar-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ResidualSpace** left.* [08-Mar-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap RAT (40/u) up on the LM [08-Mar-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Compare to RAT.CI1 [09-Mar-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: Anyone make COF and PWO ? [09-Mar-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I can help with PWO [09-Mar-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brainiac** left.* [09-Mar-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user74b08819b9** left.* [09-Mar-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy ad up for 50 Mai as i messed up my farm orders haha [09-Mar-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Viloman17** left.* [09-Mar-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Anyone need anything brought back from BEN station? [09-Mar-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Anyone want to sell some C? [09-Mar-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Egeis is there still shipping availability [09-Mar-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSoce** left.* [09-Mar-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jogan3141** joined.* [09-Mar-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Sorry, ship has sailed till tommorow :-D [09-Mar-22 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ximumn** joined.* [10-Mar-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeefFlavor** left.* [10-Mar-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0cturnal** joined.* [10-Mar-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OfficerBurge** left.* [10-Mar-22 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0cturnal** left.* [10-Mar-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why is there no carbon for sale on the LM? [10-Mar-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: humph [10-Mar-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sorry im all sold out currently [10-Mar-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EternusTheWizard** left.* [10-Mar-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: let me check i may be able ot fill 1 order [10-Mar-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***juanix98** joined.* [10-Mar-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midships** joined.* [10-Mar-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Norantal** left.* [10-Mar-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a fairly premium O order on the LM too [10-Mar-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 60/u [10-Mar-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JMR** left.* [10-Mar-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: I have room for ~440mc3 / 470t from BEN station to Katoa, anyone need anything brought back, ship will leave in 30 minutes and arrive around this time tommorow, ill complete as soon as I am back online tommorow night. [10-Mar-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Psyhisori** left.* [11-Mar-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Very cheap AU and BGO on the LM [11-Mar-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and cheap FE [11-Mar-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryst** joined.* [11-Mar-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hi everyone: COGC is filled and taken care of; I've also covered what I can in POPI. But I need the following items (paid or donated): [11-Mar-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hi everyone: COGC is filled and taken care of; I've also covered what I can in POPI. But I need the following items (paid or donated): [11-Mar-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OFF (310 @ 40 for the INF) [11-Mar-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OFF (310 @ 40 for the INF) [11-Mar-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OFF (600 @ 40 for the SST) [11-Mar-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OFF (600 @ 40 for the SST) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SUN (Anything up to 300 @ 185 for the SST) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SUN (Anything up to 300 @ 185 for the SST) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: DW (500 @ market for the PAR) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: DW (500 @ market for the PAR) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FOD (380 @ 100 for the PAR) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FOD (380 @ 100 for the PAR) [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PFE, SOI, seeking donations for the PAR [11-Mar-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PFE, SOI, seeking donations for the PAR [11-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ===================== [11-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ===================== [11-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will not be seeking re-election when my term ends in two weeks - I've notified my major backers and the search for a replacement is on. I'll be seeing out my term and ensuring an orderly transition. [11-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will not be seeking re-election when my term ends in two weeks - I've notified my major backers and the search for a replacement is on. I'll be seeing out my term and ensuring an orderly transition. [11-Mar-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: two PE buys up [11-Mar-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: two PE buys up [11-Mar-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealGamer** joined.* [11-Mar-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealGamer** joined.* [11-Mar-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @Neke86 I've contributed 455 SUN and 510 OFF. Should i post a golden RAT for settlement? [11-Mar-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @Neke86 I've contributed 455 SUN and 510 OFF. Should i post a golden RAT for settlement? [11-Mar-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes please! [11-Mar-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes please! [11-Mar-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: damn it. 455 SUN isn't correct i think. That was my whole contribution until now... [11-Mar-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: damn it. 455 SUN isn't correct i think. That was my whole contribution until now... [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: i just filled the reserve of the SST, so i think i contributed the 300 SUN. [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: i just filled the reserve of the SST, so i think i contributed the 300 SUN. [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Your last SUN was 120 [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Your last SUN was 120 [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so 335 [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so 335 [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: ah thanks, is there a way to see this? [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: ah thanks, is there a way to see this? [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: My spreadsheet :) [11-Mar-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: My spreadsheet :) [11-Mar-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: i thought so [11-Mar-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: i thought so [11-Mar-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have transactional records for the entire governorship period [11-Mar-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have transactional records for the entire governorship period [11-Mar-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So your golden RAT should be 82,375 [11-Mar-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So your golden RAT should be 82,375 [11-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: [11-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: [11-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Yes, i calculated the same. [11-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Yes, i calculated the same. [11-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Always a pleasure [11-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Always a pleasure [11-Mar-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've collected 1.084m CIS in taxes so far, and I'm still 561K in the red >_< [11-Mar-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And that's _after_ donations of 958K from @Joronimo @PiBoy314 @Gravy @DocWatz [11-Mar-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Mind you, we are 7-30 days ahead of schedule [11-Mar-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So running a deficit makes sense [11-Mar-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've collected 1.084m CIS in taxes so far, and I'm still 561K in the red >_< [11-Mar-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And that's _after_ donations of 958K from @Joronimo @PiBoy314 @Gravy @DocWatz [11-Mar-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Mind you, we are 7-30 days ahead of schedule [11-Mar-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So running a deficit makes sense [11-Mar-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alexisdu7589** left.* [11-Mar-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alexisdu7589** left.* [11-Mar-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: PAR filled [11-Mar-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Furstenburger** left.* [12-Mar-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MohaHabbat** joined.* [12-Mar-22 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Veneficae** joined.* [12-Mar-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you @Gravy [12-Mar-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone can sell me some OVE on LM? [12-Mar-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy order placed @60/u [12-Mar-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zazeraz** left.* [12-Mar-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Watney** left.* [12-Mar-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FilliMan** left.* [12-Mar-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cyrusol** left.* [12-Mar-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEnchantedMango** left.* [12-Mar-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daxie** joined.* [12-Mar-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***caldito** left.* [12-Mar-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maxxx0101x** left.* [12-Mar-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dumped my surplus HE, O, H2O and BGO on the LM [12-Mar-22 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Aaaand got orders for over 500 C, and 500 H up if anyone is keen [12-Mar-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're looking to dump AL, hit me up :) [13-Mar-22 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: What happened to all the H on the Ben CX T_T lol, anyone selling any at a normal amount? [13-Mar-22 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterplanetaryWhisky**: have a request for 75 on the CX [13-Mar-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***__Alex__17** left.* [13-Mar-22 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: Anyone got RAT, OVE and maybe a tiny bit of DW to sell? :) [13-Mar-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seraph_Azaph** left.* [13-Mar-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JuanCarlone** left.* [13-Mar-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caoscat33** left.* [13-Mar-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [13-Mar-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BrigGenBuns** joined.* [13-Mar-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Looking for 18 RCO for immediate fulfilment, LM ad is up around 440/u [13-Mar-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 444.44444 to be precise [14-Mar-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: filled [14-Mar-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many thanks! [14-Mar-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got STL lying around [14-Mar-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP are back on the CX at more tolerable prices [14-Mar-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FUSERat** left.* [14-Mar-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: ive got 1k STL on KAT, if you need it [14-Mar-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rogelio3000** joined.* [14-Mar-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***irlwoolf666** left.* [14-Mar-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daxie** left.* [14-Mar-22 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nonretour** joined.* [14-Mar-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***senram** joined.* [14-Mar-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just to be clear, I mean steel (STL.CI1) not STL Fuel (SF.CI1) [15-Mar-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Forza** left.* [15-Mar-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4cbc57d560** left.* [15-Mar-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Anyone got some FE to sell? Accidentally made the wrong prefabs [15-Mar-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I bought out all the STL\ [15-Mar-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: :) [15-Mar-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.Kalen** joined.* [15-Mar-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver2030** left.* [15-Mar-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Destructor2462** left.* [15-Mar-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: If someone wants to sell me 50 x RAT @ around 3000 CIS, just post the sell order in the LM. [15-Mar-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Did you get your RAT? [15-Mar-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gandolf-B** joined.* [15-Mar-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1,500 MCG on the LM @ 14.60/u [15-Mar-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WildOnion** left.* [15-Mar-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Another solid POPR guys, including sturdy ENG unemployment [16-Mar-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 333.22t/397.90m3 to bring back from Moria, if anyone wants to bring it back hit me up to coordinate and set a price [16-Mar-22 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SevenFall** left.* [16-Mar-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CARBONX** left.* [16-Mar-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6d0e926f5e** left.* [16-Mar-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got 2 LTA on hand for sale? [16-Mar-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PeaChuckles** joined.* [16-Mar-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Still looking for some RAT [16-Mar-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: chuck a buy up, can fulfill now [16-Mar-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I saw someone else post a sell for you but I guess you idnt get it [16-Mar-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Can't post ads sorry. [16-Mar-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sell ad is up [16-Mar-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Need anything else? [16-Mar-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Thanks. Nope, that was it. [17-Mar-22 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm working to bring BHP back to the market, I'd appreciate pre-orders (deliverable here, Proxion, or Etherwind) to save me shipping to the CX. I'll offer discounts for pre-orders and bulk if anyone is interested [17-Mar-22 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: intended CX list price is ~1,950 [17-Mar-22 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: up front, 1,800 [17-Mar-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaimeba07** left.* [17-Mar-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nonretour** left.* [17-Mar-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berengar** left.* [17-Mar-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lennyer** left.* [17-Mar-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oh no no governor, will that impact us badly? [17-Mar-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll run again if no one else turned up with backing [17-Mar-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at least I can afford to lose moeny being governor [17-Mar-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i would run but would likely send us into a global recession hahahaha [17-Mar-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Neke needs to run a seminar on how to appropriate government funds [17-Mar-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: It sounds like he needs to attend one... [17-Mar-22 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahahaha [17-Mar-22 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ive run again [17-Mar-22 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lord help me [17-Mar-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jogan3141** left.* [17-Mar-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Looks like govna will be with us for a long long time [17-Mar-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Game's too addictive [17-Mar-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: deleting my base was pretty liberating I gotta say [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: now I just run 30 BMPs [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at ~170% eff [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so if uh [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you want anything made [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can get it done within hours probably [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and just for labor rates [17-Mar-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (if you have inptus) [18-Mar-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jaimeempresario** left.* [18-Mar-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nephthesis** joined.* [18-Mar-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midships** left.* [18-Mar-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***juanix98** left.* [18-Mar-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: need to buy some H2O, anyone have any i cna buy via LM before going ot CX instead?? [18-Mar-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KU5E** joined.* [18-Mar-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @knarr1981 How much do you need? Ich could give you around 500 [18-Mar-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: that would be great [18-Mar-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much you want or them [18-Mar-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: for [18-Mar-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bradleo** joined.* [18-Mar-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Shipping out 500 Rats tomorrow morning unless a deal is made (-12hrs) [19-Mar-22 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa I bring you a gift, it’s not the cheapest but it is a lot of volume - 1,900 KOM available. Hundreds more REP are coming as well so don’t pay up too much just yet. [19-Mar-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill take some kom please [19-Mar-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's all up on the CX :) [19-Mar-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anaklusmos** left.* [19-Mar-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shirase** left.* [19-Mar-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ruyagormeyenadam**: full load cargo from katoa to ben cx posted on LM [19-Mar-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 200C available, in 1 big order or happy to sell in batches of 50 [19-Mar-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gregro** left.* [20-Mar-22 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7b3d88395c** left.* [20-Mar-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: anyone have 1 BBH i can borrow ? :) [20-Mar-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: or buy [20-Mar-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yes [20-Mar-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: put a buy orfder up for 1 at 1, call it a gift [20-Mar-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: thank you :D [20-Mar-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfc70f8b62** left.* [20-Mar-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rumblebelly** joined.* [20-Mar-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yw [20-Mar-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bouskey** joined.* [20-Mar-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluyxx** joined.* [20-Mar-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in bulk MCG? [20-Mar-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 6,000 units available [20-Mar-22 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Hi My name is Karr the liquidator, ill give you 30k for the MCG [20-Mar-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha [20-Mar-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm not liquidating though [20-Mar-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: :-) [20-Mar-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok, 40k and a banana [20-Mar-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 84,000 and I give YOU two bananas [20-Mar-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hahahaha [20-Mar-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: damn COF is expensive atm [20-Mar-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: my worked will have ot drink water for now [20-Mar-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 333/u on the CX is pretty good.. [20-Mar-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone have some HCP to hand i could buy on LM? [20-Mar-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ideally 100 @90 [20-Mar-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JiJiNim** joined.* [21-Mar-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Expensive is the SF.CI1 [21-Mar-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: I'm in the wrong business. [21-Mar-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: someone must have Carbon for me [21-Mar-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got ads for three lots 180 units up [21-Mar-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: send me a DM to arrange other lot sizes/pricing :) [21-Mar-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: noone have any HCP for sale? [21-Mar-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: Sorry @karr1981, i use mine on almost a perfect scedule so they are made into C :O [21-Mar-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: same for me :-( [21-Mar-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah np, i messed up my farm production briefly so i rna out of HCP temporarily hahaha [21-Mar-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LazyG** left.* [21-Mar-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Sorry guys i moved all my agri stuff to pyrgos. :( [21-Mar-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can't quite believe I'm buying Carbon off the CX [21-Mar-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Does anyone have BMP inputs they'd like processed for just the cost of labour? [21-Mar-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 30 BMPs sitting idle [21-Mar-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Which basically means I can assemble anything you want in a matter of hours [21-Mar-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for the PIO rate of 8/hr [21-Mar-22 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Sorry, i own 7 BMPs myself so no need for production but the inputs myself. I'm always short of RCO.... [21-Mar-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm running two ships 24/7 and I don't think it's possible within the laws of the game to keep 30 BMPs fed on a permanent basis [21-Mar-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not with how the exchanges work [21-Mar-22 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I need OFF [21-Mar-22 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: if you want to produce some [21-Mar-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure thing [21-Mar-22 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sent you a DM [22-Mar-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DSaulius** left.* [22-Mar-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: PE buy up on LM [22-Mar-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [22-Mar-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much is h2o currently? [22-Mar-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gravy** deleted this message.* [22-Mar-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: H2O.CI1 [22-Mar-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Katsumi** joined.* [22-Mar-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gg2732** joined.* [22-Mar-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [22-Mar-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PotatoesInvasion** joined.* [22-Mar-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Petr2** joined.* [22-Mar-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Looking to fill your ship - a bunch of 100t adverts posted to the CX from Katoa [22-Mar-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rogelio3000** left.* [22-Mar-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xebius** joined.* [22-Mar-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: i have a FP that is currently idle if someone wants to use it for something? xD [22-Mar-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Katsumi**: What is FP? [22-Mar-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: Food processor [22-Mar-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: BUI FP [22-Mar-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: command* [22-Mar-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Katsumi**: oh [22-Mar-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Katsumi**: and how I use it? [22-Mar-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkyus** joined.* [22-Mar-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ttoxyf** left.* [22-Mar-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Primarily for making RAT and DW [22-Mar-22 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: no HMS on Ben shame on you!!!!! [22-Mar-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Pantalaimon [22-Mar-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a lot of OFF available and coming, so if you need some, ping me [22-Mar-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it'll find its way to the CX eventually [22-Mar-22 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: Have an idle ship and need some coin? Check out LM CB-282D for transport ads between there and Katoa! [23-Mar-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @Pleinair If you need some, just dm me. I've refilled the cx but i struggle with the logistics because i'm building my next base and have not enoug ships. [23-Mar-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pantron** joined.* [23-Mar-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Anyone got some BSE I can borrow or buy? [23-Mar-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have 4 you can buy, just put up an order ill fill it [23-Mar-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Willger** joined.* [23-Mar-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***planet_traveler** joined.* [23-Mar-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***senram** left.* [23-Mar-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 180 HCP on hand, will fill the highest LM order for it that I see [23-Mar-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy order up [23-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 83/u ? [23-Mar-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do I get to buy the ensuing C cheaply? [23-Mar-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: maybe ;-) [23-Mar-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehehe [23-Mar-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _grumbles_ [23-Mar-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive built another incenerator so up to 84 units a day trying ot meet increased demand [23-Mar-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: current goal is 100 a day but need to keep an eye on my Farms ot make sure icna keep up MAI GRN and HCP stock to keep the incenerators burning [23-Mar-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: pleae dont bring in pollution charges hahaha [23-Mar-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: >_< [23-Mar-22 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tcookie** joined.* [23-Mar-22 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gandolf-B** left.* [23-Mar-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What have you people done to the water market [23-Mar-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I turn my back for a fortnight [23-Mar-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you keep trying to buy water at basement prices, no one is incentivised to fly it here, people start producing DW or selling direct on EW (both of which actively happening right now) [23-Mar-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you want steady flow of H2O to the CX or here, you really need to keep demand up at ~20 or so [23-Mar-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: otherwise the H2O will flow straight into DW and off to NC1, or into HYFs etc [23-Mar-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sell 2,500 H2O in a matter of hours on EW for about 15/u [23-Mar-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's no incentive for me to fly it here for 16/u [23-Mar-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can process that same shipment of water into 1,750 DW and more than double the sales revenue [23-Mar-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Shipping is a major constraint, if I have to pay 10k to get it shipped to Benten (there's absolutely nobody on Etherwind idling with empty ships) then it's worth even less to shift the H2O [23-Mar-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And if shipping is a constraint I'm going to wait and ship 5,000 DW for over ~200k, closer to 250k on average, vs bringing a shipment of water here for 40k less shipping fees, leaving me with 30k sales [23-Mar-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In conclusion, bid higher for water if you want steady supply (I think it's cheaper than establishing your own base all te way up to 30/u) [23-Mar-22 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That concludes my TEDRant [24-Mar-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cid** joined.* [24-Mar-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SynAsilum** joined.* [24-Mar-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive had a h2o buy order on LM @20 for over 2 weeks unfilled, thought that was fair price hehehe [24-Mar-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: haha and here I am with an ad for 200@28.5/u and nobody is filling it either [24-Mar-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I agree with neke, i have 10K H2O sitting on Pyrgos but no shipping capacity to bring it over here. So i make DW and transport it for more profit. [24-Mar-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah, the water isn't currently here is the problem [24-Mar-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You're right in that those are good prices, now [24-Mar-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and I've despatched a ship just to bring H2O back here for that purpose :P [24-Mar-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh cool [24-Mar-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill getmy swimming pool ready [24-Mar-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CidDaBird** left.* [24-Mar-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera3cc0cbac1** left.* [24-Mar-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***horse6** left.* [24-Mar-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I don't produce too much excess h20 but when I have some accumulated, I sell to whatever is on LM [24-Mar-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posting water on LM, the delivert ti [24-Mar-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: time is 12h [24-Mar-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user21984e9641** left.* [24-Mar-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user01dca00f78** left.* [24-Mar-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The water ads are posted, and I've put up buys for Carbon @ 230 for anyone out there with INCs [24-Mar-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: thanks getting it over here! [24-Mar-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I just shipped 500 H2O to the CX and posted at 30. [24-Mar-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put up an order for 25,000 water on the CX to offer some liquidity [24-Mar-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Water suppliers can cash it immediately at 19.95 and I'll relist it, so you get liquid cash for reinvestment up front [24-Mar-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tcookie** left.* [25-Mar-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: need some STL Fuel, ad at LM ;) [25-Mar-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SlickbackThePimp** joined.* [25-Mar-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adnorig** joined.* [25-Mar-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MohaHabbat** left.* [25-Mar-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ant_Imony** joined.* [25-Mar-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: anyone have LST? [25-Mar-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I have some, post an ad [25-Mar-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polomanky** joined.* [25-Mar-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capitainetim** joined.* [25-Mar-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GGolden** joined.* [25-Mar-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XavBell38** joined.* [25-Mar-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarthHelion** joined.* [25-Mar-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lexar** joined.* [25-Mar-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thatguy1265** joined.* [25-Mar-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qaj** joined.* [25-Mar-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxN** joined.* [25-Mar-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_BRUH_** joined.* [25-Mar-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: wall of joiners welcome :) [25-Mar-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeathCafe** joined.* [25-Mar-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fanres** joined.* [25-Mar-22 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zo-Koh** joined.* [26-Mar-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Labyrinth_Conestllations** joined.* [26-Mar-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wow welcome all the new people, guess PrUn was mentoned somewhere hehe [26-Mar-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap nitrogen on the LM [26-Mar-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dumping excess stock [26-Mar-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fleak** joined.* [26-Mar-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nrikito** joined.* [26-Mar-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nephthesis** left.* [26-Mar-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Irazor56** joined.* [26-Mar-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xspot** joined.* [26-Mar-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***due_silv** joined.* [26-Mar-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MMOToaster** joined.* [26-Mar-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carnizjan** joined.* [26-Mar-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chankopek** joined.* [26-Mar-22 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carnizjan** left.* [26-Mar-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KU5E** left.* [26-Mar-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: is it faesible ot build base on a 0 pop planet, or does it need too much stuff built as planetary buildings? [26-Mar-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think if yoy keep it small its fine [26-Mar-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: First 200 pioneers is covered by the CM? [26-Mar-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh cool [26-Mar-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got say 50 OVE on LM i can buy? [26-Mar-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I sent mine to the CX sorry [26-Mar-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can give u 20-30 out of my stash [26-Mar-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Actually I can do the 50 and sort it later [26-Mar-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ad is up [26-Mar-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate [27-Mar-22 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azkar** joined.* [27-Mar-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bradleo** deleted this message.* [27-Mar-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bradleo**: Anyone have extra MCG? I made a goof and miscounted, Ad is up, paying extra [27-Mar-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: filled it [27-Mar-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amitiel** joined.* [27-Mar-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user98d6bcd071** left.* [27-Mar-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoSalmon** joined.* [27-Mar-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bradleo**: Thank you Dominaria! [27-Mar-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***simeon437** left.* [27-Mar-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crankypants** joined.* [27-Mar-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***perlimpinpin** joined.* [27-Mar-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got up to 3,500 MCG (13.5/u) and 10,000 PE (3.37/u) up for sale if anyone is interested. I've also got OVE, DW, and more REP headed to the CX [27-Mar-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Prices on any of my listed products are negotiable for Katoan residents, especially in bulk. [27-Mar-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You'll find my current large listings on PE.CI1, REP.CI1, OFF.CI1, BHP.CI1, and KOM.CI1 [27-Mar-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you would like any market gaps addressed, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do about providing liquidity :) [28-Mar-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: would anyone happen to be able to sell me some hydrogen? [28-Mar-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Lots of stuff up for sale on the LM [28-Mar-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PT, EXO, OVE, KOM, COT, REP, COF, DW [28-Mar-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and MCG [28-Mar-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: buy up if you need it, prices are fair(ish) [28-Mar-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All funds go to supporting the Governor ;) [28-Mar-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But this is better than donating, because you get actual goods in return! [28-Mar-22 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: bought as much as i can for now to help out, looka lik i missed the KOM :-( [28-Mar-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ive also got lots of KOM on the CX I can bring some back [28-Mar-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: much appreciated [28-Mar-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: nah its cool ill buy it from cxl [28-Mar-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rumblebelly** left.* [28-Mar-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordfracha** joined.* [28-Mar-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PPT** joined.* [28-Mar-22 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marckt** left.* [28-Mar-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bouskey** left.* [28-Mar-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks guys, I sold everything but the COT and everything bar 10 KOM has been delivered [28-Mar-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Another large run of REP is about to finish (800 units) which I will send to NC1, followed by some PT ~300ish, then a rather large (72k) batch of PE. If you wish to intercept any of these before market just drop me a line, I'll discount appropriately. [28-Mar-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm also assembling the inputs for an MCG run after that [28-Mar-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some days away though [28-Mar-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WetSparkz** joined.* [28-Mar-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Macster** joined.* [29-Mar-22 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kanick** joined.* [29-Mar-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***prefect3yg** joined.* [29-Mar-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiq** joined.* [29-Mar-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***broly** left.* [29-Mar-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Labyrinth_Conestllations** left.* [29-Mar-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 450t/m available for a flight to Moria station [29-Mar-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone interested? [29-Mar-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gofreza** joined.* [29-Mar-22 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zo-Koh**: Does anyone specifically sell Consumables on Katoa. Looking for a long term supplier, price isn't to worrying more so just the consistency [29-Mar-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zo-Koh**: I am new so I guess price is worrying for now lmao, but hopefully not for long [29-Mar-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I should have most of what you need [29-Mar-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just drop me a DM [29-Mar-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: preferable a few days before you need it :) [29-Mar-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I discount for Katoa taxpayers [29-Mar-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and saves u a trip to the CX [29-Mar-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same goes for anybody else reading this [29-Mar-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I also have limited SET CONS available, and make or obtain more [29-Mar-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CONS on the LM for PIO/SET [29-Mar-22 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The POPR looks abysmal, seeking guidance on forward steps. If you've recently downsized your SET/TEC/ENG populations, I'd love to hear why so I can understand these population movements and see if there is a theme that needs addressing. [29-Mar-22 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, looking for COGC donations, any and all welcome [30-Mar-22 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: donated what icna currently spare [30-Mar-22 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: BTA buy order up for 5 , offering 4500 total [30-Mar-22 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fanres9** joined.* [30-Mar-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: does anyone have two steel (STL) on hand for sale? [30-Mar-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1,200/u [30-Mar-22 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty neke [30-Mar-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf04f1401a7** left.* [30-Mar-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3cd886d70e** left.* [30-Mar-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackbiter** joined.* [30-Mar-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkyus** left.* [30-Mar-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***arb63** joined.* [30-Mar-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: i have a bunch of GAL if anyone wants to buy some :) [30-Mar-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItzCoco** joined.* [30-Mar-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***arb63** left.* [30-Mar-22 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roode** joined.* [30-Mar-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: anybody got 24 Hydrogen to get my refinery off the ground? I forgot it at the CX I left it [30-Mar-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [30-Mar-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can give you 24 H for 1 cis, then you just give it back when u bring it next time [30-Mar-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or I can just sell it to you at the ask price right now [30-Mar-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and replace it myself on the CX [30-Mar-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that might be simpler [30-Mar-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: @ 80 works [30-Mar-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [30-Mar-22 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: That was a big oops. my heart sank, lol [30-Mar-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Thx for watching the chat [30-Mar-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ^_^ [30-Mar-22 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I do it all the time, running four ships while half asleep on my mobile [30-Mar-22 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: need anything moved to the station? I'm headed out [31-Mar-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: all good thanks [31-Mar-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MCFCguy** left.* [31-Mar-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dumped my water in benten exchange, first come first serve [31-Mar-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RLD** left.* [31-Mar-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: looking for GAL. All of it. [31-Mar-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: looking for HAL. All of it. [31-Mar-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xebius** left.* [31-Mar-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pantron** left.* [31-Mar-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eliotL** joined.* [31-Mar-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Katsumi** left.* [31-Mar-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roode** left.* [01-Apr-22 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfcbeeca86f** left.* [01-Apr-22 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Piris** left.* [01-Apr-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Those REP I have on Benten will be the last of any significant bulk for some time. I’ve removed the rest to send it to other CXs, and the BMPs will be coming down over the coming days as I redeploy my base area. [01-Apr-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: guess i best buy some tyhen hehe [01-Apr-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: my Proxiom base should be starting in 1 hour :-) dunno how im gonna manage 3 bases with 2 ships hehe, I prob should have saved for a third ship before third base haha [01-Apr-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gentry** left.* [01-Apr-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GustavoRLC** joined.* [01-Apr-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***southwest102** left.* [01-Apr-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: I need to source up to 300 SUN, and 200 SOI. If you would like to bid on this Government tender, please do so here or send me a DM. I need the products no later than five days, three is better, lowest bidder wins the contract. Starting prices are SUN @ 240/u and SOI @ 300/u [01-Apr-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you for the COGC donations so far! [01-Apr-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Picarsan** joined.* [01-Apr-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chiton** joined.* [02-Apr-22 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I have 600 SUN at stock and can sell them to you for 240/u. [02-Apr-22 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll put up an ad now [02-Apr-22 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sorted thank you :) Just need SOI now [02-Apr-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: I have 203 C anyone want to buy it, make an ad on LM :) [02-Apr-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adnorig** left.* [02-Apr-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silenttelecast** left.* [02-Apr-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SlickbackThePimp** left.* [02-Apr-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***morsahipster** joined.* [02-Apr-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf27f2024d1** left.* [02-Apr-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useredb1e15cf2** left.* [02-Apr-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user474f6198cd** left.* [02-Apr-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polomanky** left.* [02-Apr-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GGolden** left.* [03-Apr-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***steven159** joined.* [03-Apr-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANTY_ua** joined.* [03-Apr-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Metze** left.* [03-Apr-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lexar** left.* [03-Apr-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fleak** left.* [03-Apr-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ant_Imony** left.* [03-Apr-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***therealfakemoot** left.* [03-Apr-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dionysus** left.* [03-Apr-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atomixwah** left.* [03-Apr-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Irazor56** left.* [03-Apr-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dead0fNight** left.* [03-Apr-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***due_silv** left.* [03-Apr-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stevendog98** joined.* [03-Apr-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MMOToaster** left.* [03-Apr-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: ouch...that's a lot of departures [03-Apr-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***looschap** joined.* [03-Apr-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bl4t4andtLier** left.* [03-Apr-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***racin36er** left.* [03-Apr-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZanRen** joined.* [03-Apr-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Badge_2812** joined.* [03-Apr-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SCP-Faudation** joined.* [03-Apr-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andyee** joined.* [03-Apr-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If ayone here is on Umbra, I've got an empty ship to bring back, looking for shipping at 5 cis/tm3 [04-Apr-22 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hydrvs** joined.* [04-Apr-22 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azkar** left.* [04-Apr-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Big new shopping list on the LM: MCG, H2O, COF, CAF, PT, OVE, BHP, OFF, REP, COT. [04-Apr-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Plenty more where those came from, prices negotiable and discounts for bulk orders. [04-Apr-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking to buy some RAt if anyone has any on LM [04-Apr-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: im stuck in a loop of creating 50 RAT and using 49.... xD what happens when my FP breaks down.. hmm xD [04-Apr-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: heheh sounds fun [04-Apr-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PredatorBeing** left.* [04-Apr-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @karr1981 I've put up some RAT Sell Ads if you are interested [04-Apr-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks, ivew grabbedonel ot and iwl lbuy more if i get some money in quickly [04-Apr-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive grabbed one lot , that should say hehe [04-Apr-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: My RAT are better, they are made with 100% Benton sourced food and packaged with sustainable eco friendly packaging you can eat. [04-Apr-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NGSilveira** joined.* [04-Apr-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Oh yeah? Well mineare made with Meth!!! [04-Apr-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoronoaDroagon** joined.* [04-Apr-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TehBadGuy12** left.* [04-Apr-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crankypants** left.* [04-Apr-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Well MY RAT are made from real rats. None of that artificial processed stuff. [04-Apr-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Rats feed with real organic food or Meth from Joekingdom? [04-Apr-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Rats fed on rats, there are plenty running around the warehouse. [04-Apr-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just make sure we export the rat-meat RATs to Moria please [04-Apr-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ScincillantApex** joined.* [04-Apr-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Honey Rats > Meth Rats = Rats in Sauce [04-Apr-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: So far im exporting RATs with the following flavor dust: Dill Pickle, Ketcup, Pecan Pie, King Crab, Seaweed, Garlic Butter, and Mao Cheese. The top seller in Moria is Prawn Cocktail for some reason. [04-Apr-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lol90** left.* [04-Apr-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kneeko** joined.* [05-Apr-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC was against sorted early thanks to some generous Katoan donors. In the coming COGC cycle please leave off adding to COGC unless you want to do an entire categoriy (i.e., all of the DW, or all of the PE) as this makes it much easier for me to track and administer and reimburse :) [05-Apr-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not that I'm ungrateful for contributed supplies, but you guys already pay taxes [05-Apr-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have several thousand OVE coming, I'm listing some on the LM at 44/u + listing fee. If you accept one of those ads, delivery will be in ~36-48 hours. [05-Apr-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***elptoalien** joined.* [05-Apr-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qaj** left.* [05-Apr-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is there anyone brave enough to be running SMEs here on Katoa? [05-Apr-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechonPanda** joined.* [05-Apr-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Building to an SME, hopefully more in the future [05-Apr-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Is our planet a higher damage to leave than some others? [05-Apr-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Once this game hits steam how long before contracts go from E and P to only A. [05-Apr-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Saw a comment on steam that someone wants to form a group to bring down exchange prices on Benten [05-Apr-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PPT** left.* [05-Apr-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **prefect3yg**: hehe the next one will be willing to lend his assets to short that movement [05-Apr-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***memoxX** joined.* [05-Apr-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flotschi35** joined.* [05-Apr-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: what's up with the heavy under cutting on prices?? [05-Apr-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Pretty much anyone trying to make any good is trying to lower the price of a good. But they need other items to make it (say they make DW but need RAT), so be curious what they can do [05-Apr-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I suspect the big undercuts might be from people a) want to avoid complaints about penny battles and b) wanting to move some good quicker [05-Apr-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I am both A and B but not in any coordinated Steam group? More details would be good [05-Apr-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: hmmm, okey, for currently long range shipping or buy - freight - sell is not even viable [05-Apr-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SPRAAY67** joined.* [05-Apr-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: There are still some juicey areas to make money between CXs. I had a lot of my KOM purchased here and resold on ANT [05-Apr-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF has had some nice spreads (I haven't looked lately) [05-Apr-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mostlywater** joined.* [05-Apr-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: hmmm, okey, so i basically just got to look through areas and see for price difference high enough to be worth a long trip around the day and half to two days mark and just go from there, and calculate the fuel usage in with it. [05-Apr-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im gona need some PE next day or so, anyone looking to sell a decent amount? [05-Apr-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah man drop me a line, I'm finishing my OVE run in ~10h, have 7k PE on hand and can make 30k+ per day [05-Apr-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Think I owe you a discount too [05-Apr-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much for the 7k [05-Apr-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryanfw22** joined.* [05-Apr-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dm [05-Apr-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: I admit to RAT undercutting by round numbers, I can wait. But to be fair that is what an open market exchange is for- I don't see anyone complaining about the LM orders set to high bid/ low asks. Let the little guys penny pinch for survival while you dump orders of 1k and kill the attempts [05-Apr-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Now that my peanut butter and bean sandwiches are in production I'll spread my asks into a ladder. Buy what you will [05-Apr-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: * low bid / high ask [05-Apr-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Disappointing POPR again, looks like we’re still losing population and players. Fulfillment is okay so it’s the high unemployment that’s causing the numbers. Again, if you’re leaving or downsizing I’d always like to hear from you so I can adjust [05-Apr-22 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: It's most likely the people that comes and goes, i had to do a restart myself due to being income blocked [05-Apr-22 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Small number of shipping adverts posted on LM for those with space going to BEN from Katoa [05-Apr-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: wooow, awesome [05-Apr-22 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: @Neke86, I think the POPR looks great, we have extra in each pool. Until that pioneer number drops a bit, those extra pioneers will soak up all the higher tier POPI anyways [05-Apr-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay fair enough! Any programs you think I should aim for? [05-Apr-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Feel like it's a bit of waste of cash at the minute with no clear objective and so much extra pop [05-Apr-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Macster** left.* [05-Apr-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Honestly, we need to loose a lot of pioneers and settlers. The engineers are the only ones we might actually be short on soon (not sure if the education program will be enough vs just running the engineer program) [05-Apr-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Lose numbers down to equilibrium you mean? [05-Apr-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Ya for the lower tiers, and just run programs to keep the upper ones from having open jobs [05-Apr-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Roger that [05-Apr-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: (also just my opinion) [05-Apr-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No one else in here giving me better ideas :) [05-Apr-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Once we loose 10k pioneers and a few k of settlers, maybe just running the POPI will be enough (and maybe even cheaper) [05-Apr-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And according to my little grey book you're one of the biggest supporters keeping the lights on [05-Apr-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Just glad to help keep BEN space prosperous [06-Apr-22 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emelryk** joined.* [06-Apr-22 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saluxette** joined.* [06-Apr-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap PT on the LM [06-Apr-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Along with some cheap REP [06-Apr-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap OVE are now deliverable [06-Apr-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tqre** joined.* [06-Apr-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Hi Katoa :) [06-Apr-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Looking to set up an engineer base in the future, maybe buliding an Art CafΓ© would be a good idea? [06-Apr-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve no way of supplying that at the current time [06-Apr-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not even sure it would be necessary? How many engineers are you planning? [06-Apr-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Could well be couple hundred in the future [06-Apr-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: I guess technician base should be healthy in the first place. [06-Apr-22 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes haha [06-Apr-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I could secure COF, DW, and GL to keep the upkeep chugging along just barely but it’s too large an investment for the time being [06-Apr-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Taxes cover about 80-85% of the current requirements [06-Apr-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Sounds like a small tax increase? I'll see if I can contribute some, atm busy with redesigning my bases... [06-Apr-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ainweiss** joined.* [06-Apr-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Well that RAT feeding frenzy didn't last long [06-Apr-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Has anybody done the math for the repeat cycle of shortest flight time to the CX? [06-Apr-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: depends on orbit location and fuel used [06-Apr-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordfracha** left.* [06-Apr-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user897ea77b8f** left.* [06-Apr-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mildnetic** joined.* [06-Apr-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gofreza** left.* [06-Apr-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Actively looking to buy FOD, SOI, let me know if you're selling! [06-Apr-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neharion** joined.* [06-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone here running an ELP that I might task (lucratively of course) [07-Apr-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TaxThePoor** joined.* [07-Apr-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bdea** joined.* [07-Apr-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalesKun** joined.* [07-Apr-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9539845cf5** left.* [07-Apr-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Selling some spare RATs and DW, will fullfil now if purchased if not wont be on again for 12 hours from now. [08-Apr-22 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hi Katoans [08-Apr-22 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I am working on delivering a steady flow of ALO to the CX, or here [08-Apr-22 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've settled KW-358b, and I'm funding an SST and COGC there eventually once my base fills out [08-Apr-22 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you'd be interested in AL/ALO and wish to assist me, please reach out to me directly [08-Apr-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll scale up production to meet demand [08-Apr-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: [08-Apr-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Seeking 442 RAT in donations or cheap sales for the COGC. The rest is funded. [08-Apr-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also still needing 340, which will be paid [08-Apr-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We've also only 10 days of SOI, so if you'd like to sell SOI to me, that would help as well [08-Apr-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap PE and BHP on the LM [08-Apr-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bealko** joined.* [08-Apr-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***David2468** left.* [08-Apr-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tritario** joined.* [08-Apr-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rpjunkie** joined.* [09-Apr-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tritario** left.* [09-Apr-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chentro** joined.* [09-Apr-22 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SickMinecrafter** joined.* [09-Apr-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GustavoRLC** left.* [09-Apr-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user544583f779** left.* [10-Apr-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***conglomerate** joined.* [10-Apr-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** left.* [10-Apr-22 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: What's up with all the leaving and joining all the time [10-Apr-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Leaving is usually [10-Apr-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: old accounts being cleaned out [10-Apr-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and when you see batches of new joiners, especially big batches, it’s usually so some new ad or video or something [10-Apr-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Bulk MCG and PE orders on the LM at competitive rates [10-Apr-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: oooh, okey, fair enough [10-Apr-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***morsahipster** left.* [10-Apr-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***conglomerate** left.* [10-Apr-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joyeuse** joined.* [10-Apr-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tojba** joined.* [10-Apr-22 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silki** joined.* [10-Apr-22 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ALO for sale a few hours flight away: LMA KW-358b/79 [11-Apr-22 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANTY_ua** left.* [11-Apr-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone selling C? [11-Apr-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: How many do you need? [11-Apr-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Anyone need hydrogen?? [11-Apr-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb2d40c7adb** left.* [11-Apr-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deadnightmer** joined.* [11-Apr-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userecf7626d42** left.* [11-Apr-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: depends on the price! [11-Apr-22 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @joekingdom everything you got [11-Apr-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***awesome_lewis207** joined.* [11-Apr-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6fdaaebd62** left.* [11-Apr-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user64042fffed** left.* [11-Apr-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Altrios** joined.* [11-Apr-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @neke86 I don't have much lol only 20 on hand [11-Apr-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lll take it [11-Apr-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In fact, if you sell anything that goes into BMPs, I'll probably take it at a good price [11-Apr-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: DM me to talk terms :) [11-Apr-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got ~2m cash available [11-Apr-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hot overworked BMPs in your area need your inputs [11-Apr-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dial +1 (800) GOVERNOR [11-Apr-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AMONGSTUS** joined.* [12-Apr-22 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ikillglitch** joined.* [12-Apr-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***paumarcb** joined.* [12-Apr-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Airbus391** joined.* [12-Apr-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***madlighthouse** joined.* [12-Apr-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mazon** joined.* [12-Apr-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've posted shipping if anyone has a free FTL ship? 1,500 cis to KW-358b (<12h away) and 5,000 cis back. 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[14-Apr-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EcoRiptide** left.* [14-Apr-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***i7089** joined.* [14-Apr-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **cbnoble**: @karr1981 check your messages [14-Apr-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaliDualGoddess** left.* [14-Apr-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***portamigra** joined.* [14-Apr-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m working on getting over 1k COF to the CX so don’t go panic over-paying [14-Apr-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ill be listing around 370-400 [14-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: If you demolish a building, how much parts do you get back? 1/2? [14-Apr-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: it says how much you will get back, it depending on the condition. [14-Apr-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: reclaimable materials [14-Apr-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: just cleared out my starting rigs last weekend since im importing water now [now that i can afford it] [14-Apr-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 2,000 water here on on Katoa waiting to fill LM orders btw [14-Apr-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill buy some if i can get some C sold quickly as spent all my money on prefabs haha [14-Apr-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got C buys up! [14-Apr-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much a unit for the h20? [14-Apr-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 18 on Katoa [14-Apr-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll fill any order I see above 18/u [14-Apr-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i put 1000 at 19 [14-Apr-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [14-Apr-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks gov [14-Apr-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ookay that water is sold, I'll notify this chat when more is planetside [14-Apr-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (or you can get it off me on the CX :)) [14-Apr-22 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: IBuyLocal [14-Apr-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: For corporate projects are there more projects than just the headquarters? [14-Apr-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neharion** left.* [14-Apr-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: In 1.5 hours my ship will be landing on Katoa, I need to send it to the Station to fetch a bunch of materials, does anyone need anything transported in either direction. Estimated Arrival will be 12 hours from now at station, then 12 hours later back at Katoa. [14-Apr-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackbiter** left.* [14-Apr-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: @Egeis - I have a few small ads up at a good price on the LM :) [14-Apr-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DocWatz**: Anyone have 8 BBH - ad up at 1200 each, but willing to negotiate a little on that price [14-Apr-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [14-Apr-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: UPKEEP: I've posted two 'E' rated ads for EPO and PG, this is to make OFF for the POPI upkeep. Please fill both if you're able! [14-Apr-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: As one term ends, another begins - thanks for the ongoing vote of confidence :) [15-Apr-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Does anyone produce BGO here in Katoa or has a good source of AU? [15-Apr-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Konco22** left.* [15-Apr-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I did briefly but it was too hard to source AU and BGO prices were, despite that, not great [15-Apr-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Kiruna was a good source of AUO iirc [15-Apr-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: after some wheeling and dealing [15-Apr-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or maybe it was cortez sorry [15-Apr-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just setup 10 SMEs, I can churn AUO for you if you find it [15-Apr-22 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garnin** joined.* [15-Apr-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **5h4d0w**: Could I buy 4 BTA from anyone on Katoa? [15-Apr-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RikiRakun** left.* [15-Apr-22 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BirtyDugger** joined.* [15-Apr-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Benjweb** joined.* [15-Apr-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bdea** left.* [15-Apr-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [15-Apr-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to sell a small amoutn of each sett supply, KOM, EXO, REP nd PT? just need say 10 of each [15-Apr-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalesKun** left.* [15-Apr-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can do everything but KOM [15-Apr-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Last thing we need is a bunch workers drunk off of Kombucha [15-Apr-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: :D [15-Apr-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ainweiss** left.* [15-Apr-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TempCorp** joined.* [15-Apr-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: cool can yo put sell up fo the others and ill buy now [15-Apr-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: I can do KOM... [15-Apr-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: 100 available. [15-Apr-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much per unit ryst? [15-Apr-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive put a buy up for 20 at 300 [15-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wasn’t online sorry [15-Apr-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Grabbed the EXO i saw, presume the others got filled [15-Apr-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: still need some REP [15-Apr-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much for 20? [15-Apr-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive put a buy up for it [15-Apr-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [15-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve got 400 on hand, 350/u is fine [15-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: cool will prob buy some more tomorrow [15-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can sort it now on long payment terms if you like [15-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: less clicking :) [15-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: just needed ot kickstart my new HYP [15-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok can igrab 100? [15-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure thing [15-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can also do EXO/PT to order [15-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 5-10 days payment is fine [15-Apr-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok buy order up for 100 [15-Apr-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: il lcheck my exo and pt needs later and let you know [15-Apr-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [15-Apr-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: easy [16-Apr-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainLama** joined.* [16-Apr-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill be looking to buy 16 MHL in next few days hopefully, so if anyone tihnks they could supply dorp me a dm and we can discuss / sort [16-Apr-22 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bealko** left.* [16-Apr-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***doid83** joined.* [16-Apr-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Metsa** joined.* [16-Apr-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Risal** joined.* [16-Apr-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user01f3605aff** left.* [16-Apr-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: First small batch of cheap ALO just hit the LM :) [17-Apr-22 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've covered COGC myself and posted 10k donation sells on the LM (look for the "F" rated ads). If anyone wishes to contribute it goes directly to the COGC upkeep accounting [17-Apr-22 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm posting another for 80k for the next ENG program funding, if you're benefiting from the ENG program please consider grabbing one of the 40k sells :) [17-Apr-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @Pantalaimon :) [17-Apr-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Sorry, i'm low on cash right now. I could donate in NCC, but that wouldn't be helpful right? [17-Apr-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not really, but taking one of the DWs is perfect :) [17-Apr-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The whole point is to spread it around! [17-Apr-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***F4tal3d** joined.* [17-Apr-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 2 golden DW purchased to help towards COGC [17-Apr-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you! [17-Apr-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SickMinecrafter** left.* [17-Apr-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sorrack** joined.* [17-Apr-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ericdot** joined.* [17-Apr-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you @Pantalaimon @karr1981 @knarfaction @BlueHeeler @Sarantia for the generous donations [17-Apr-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: >> LOCAL RULES CHANGE [17-Apr-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: >> LM daily rate reduced 63% from 8 CIS to 3 CIS per day. [17-Apr-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: >> PIO rate reduced 9% from 22 CIS to 20 CIS per day. [17-Apr-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: >> SET-SCI rates flattened by industry (previously Manufacturing paid more) with fees pushed higher to the TEC, ENG, SCI end of the spectrum. [17-Apr-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Over the last 80 days, Upkeep has been averaging ~250K CIS per week at near-market acquisition rates compared to dividend payments varying in a tight range from 220K to 230K per week. [17-Apr-22 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: After donations and at-value contributions of C$1.48m from 20 different players (most of which went to upgrades early in the term) the current account balance is negative C$234K (covered by me), but given we're about 3 weeks ahead on POPI we're doing quite well :) [17-Apr-22 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We also have our first taste of culture thanks to the players of FOWL and KAWA for Katoa's first Art Cafe! [18-Apr-22 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: We've come a long way thanks to Neke's governance! Three cheers for Neke! [18-Apr-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ^_^ [18-Apr-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And I haven’t even had to push anyone out an airlock for weeks [18-Apr-22 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I think you'd be the next out of an airlock from being overworked to death [18-Apr-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Anybody care to make an order of 50 or 100 H on the LM? I'll grab it in 8hrs [18-Apr-22 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: ya Neke, hip hip hooray! [18-Apr-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Airlock? wasteful, INC always needs feeding. [18-Apr-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahaha [18-Apr-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: can anyone sell me 1 BSE quickly on LM? [18-Apr-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***karr1981** deleted this message.* [18-Apr-22 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive placed a buy order [18-Apr-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [18-Apr-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty sir [18-Apr-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i was too impatient to wait a day for my bse shipment, wanted to build my second HYF now hehe [18-Apr-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Setting up ammonia flavored coffee on Katoa? [18-Apr-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehehe yep [18-Apr-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ikillglitch** left.* [18-Apr-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: typical the supply shortage seems to have ended now im producing it haha [18-Apr-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnknowableHobo** joined.* [18-Apr-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Netherphoenix** joined.* [18-Apr-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joyeuse** left.* [18-Apr-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoloboiNanook** joined.* [18-Apr-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tojba** left.* [18-Apr-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SteveDav** joined.* [18-Apr-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainRuka** joined.* [18-Apr-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snypes01** joined.* [18-Apr-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealGamer** left.* [18-Apr-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Auk** joined.* [19-Apr-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***skulley5923** joined.* [19-Apr-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: RATs for Sale, LM [19-Apr-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got 12 PSL on hand to deliver here on Katoa ? 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[19-Apr-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LHP available by special order. 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If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask and look up the good tutorial and handbook [20-Apr-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***C_Rhino** joined.* [20-Apr-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RawX** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saradomix** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grimwold** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leadcask** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pyrelinile** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6dc626dea4** left.* [20-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leadcask** left.* [20-Apr-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thanatos_Fola** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leadcask** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luckydux** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrMcG33k** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaese** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raya** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tets86** left.* [20-Apr-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Looks like the steam launch is going well [20-Apr-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **F4tal3d**: any corps here looking for new members? 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[20-Apr-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **cbnoble**: @F4tal3d check your PM [20-Apr-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I haven't noticed any differences [20-Apr-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sergio.arcos** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ROBOTOV** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: so its the chrome engine wrapped in unity, got it [20-Apr-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***p0p3** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Interesting! I wonder if you can still use the add-ons like fio.fnar.net [20-Apr-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: The Katoa Carbon consortium welcomes all the new arrivals [20-Apr-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***flxb** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CypherActive** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krimys** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amazon_Corp** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kukudas** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***p0p3** left.* [20-Apr-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Croll** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Juntness** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pokefire6406** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Patatras** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gott_Sieben** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Walord** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gforce725** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***edmund_dantes** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: So many new Katoans :D [20-Apr-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mart1JosephIII** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***22TwentyTwo** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greenbin** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dracon19762002** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TeddyD** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yoshino** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExsiliumGames** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***palmleafs** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CZEasar** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShovelTime** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Solomun** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Number1** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blindartgame** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ByGGyS** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MilkmanX** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trimble** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I have a DW and RAT buy order up on LM if anyone can meet it. Trying to re-ignite my production line after a long hiatus [20-Apr-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pav** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: o got ya mate [20-Apr-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I [20-Apr-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: get those workers working [20-Apr-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: thanks :] [20-Apr-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: they're working but very unsatisfied [20-Apr-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blindartgame** left.* [20-Apr-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Waroftime** joined.* [20-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pitou** joined.* [20-Apr-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unbandit** left.* [20-Apr-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ReapTheBlackSheep** joined.* [20-Apr-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***greenlikeme** joined.* [20-Apr-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brub98** joined.* [20-Apr-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garebear** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirJay** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osirisxp** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heccsicle** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drunaran** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrenana** left.* [20-Apr-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlanDrone** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yintae** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SiskABerry** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Winden** joined.* [20-Apr-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nirvana** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lukenukem** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***raicon** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tristicles** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ahlwen** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pyrelinile** left.* [20-Apr-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abyront** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abraxus** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nour** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrRetro** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phyraxis** joined.* [20-Apr-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilentFury** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RipSac** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PainfullyBad** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome all you new players [20-Apr-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dundee2007** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hopefully you're reading this COM buffer, some tips: [20-Apr-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dont burn much fuel flying to the station, fuel is very expensive [20-Apr-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Get yoruselves over to Discord as soon as possible if you're serious about hanging around, it's a lot easier to get advice there [20-Apr-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scottisheep** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrenana** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redblade** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hamiltonian** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Celerst** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ranch** joined.* [20-Apr-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spin271** joined.* [20-Apr-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dundee2007** left.* [20-Apr-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackhathall** joined.* [20-Apr-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raven1.17** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lauromine** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Necrot1c** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RogueBanana** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cookie_TK** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dps4140** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Celerst** left.* [20-Apr-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pencil** joined.* [20-Apr-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaddyBigBear** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CdnBass** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackDragon52** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baron-Vonbitch** joined.* [20-Apr-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gold-Fedora** joined.* [20-Apr-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hes_a_Brick_da_na_na_na_House** joined.* [20-Apr-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T-Rex_415** joined.* [20-Apr-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aleiizz** joined.* [20-Apr-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hog_8541** joined.* [20-Apr-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reyman** joined.* [20-Apr-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SWAP** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mazon** left.* [20-Apr-22 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hobominer** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LlamasAreSpies** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: KATOA NEW PEOPLE. Don't click the X in the top right of your buffer window before you know how to get the window back up. 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ApexChat#8127 ***OcelotMonkey** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: buy ordeorn LM for 2 BSE if anyone can help (as im too impatient to wait for myt next delivery of prefabs hehe) [21-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: got you [21-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and welcome to all the Steam Katoans, take your time, lots to learn [21-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate ( i tihnk you filled my LBHalso, if so thanks for that too) [21-Apr-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: if you need more LBH just ask me i have about 250 in stock [21-Apr-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: cool will do but in a few days, im building up HYFs os each one needs 16 MHL which isnt cheap hehe so controls how fast i cna build [21-Apr-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: also a long shot but just placed a NS buy order if anyone has some stock here [21-Apr-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have not lopked into MHL and HYFs hope its worth the investment [21-Apr-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah COF (and then form FP CAF) fluctuates but can get good price so i hoep its worth it in long run haha, even if i just keep my own CAf needs filled [21-Apr-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: maybe i should take a look at it aswell now that i have a base on Milliways (food cogc) it might be worth it to produce my own CO [21-Apr-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: COF [21-Apr-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitlia_Steele** left.* [21-Apr-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Argodex** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wingate.white** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***castorvx** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wilby** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlammaVarga** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: need COF irl [21-Apr-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rblake** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VonKronk** 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[21-Apr-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _sad empty tank noises_ [21-Apr-22 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: hey @neke86! I was a small fuel producer a few months ago but dropped of. I'm trying to get my production spun back up now :] [21-Apr-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rainy_Day** joined.* [21-Apr-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Probably don't need to re-purpose your base for it, I'm just used to posting LM ads and having them gone overnight ;) [21-Apr-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: our big local dealer @Sintheras hasn't replied yet [21-Apr-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Oh no worries here, all my buildings are still in good shape [21-Apr-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: minimal work to get it back up (i think) [21-Apr-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @rasd @tooslider @BlueHeeler @Solstone [21-Apr-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The usual suspects [21-Apr-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlammaVarga** left.* [21-Apr-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Super noob here. Just trying to get up and cooking. Went with the gas/liquid extraction. Anything I should know, other than watching tutorials? [21-Apr-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: If you haven't already, the Collector and Extractor buildings are probably what you need [21-Apr-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: But, you need to make sure you have enough essentials to keep your workforce happy (DW and RAT at mininum) [21-Apr-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm not sure about your plans but selling on the commodity exchange (CX) at Benten Station is probably where you'd want to take your goods [21-Apr-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: You might be able to sell on the local market (LM) here but I just know about the demand [21-Apr-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I have one of each. Got ammonia and water harvesting, wont have anything for about 8 hours. However, i would like to secure more DW and RAT [21-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm not particularlly good at this game but I ended up having to buy DW and RAT at the CX before I was able to produce any myself [21-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: You might be able to get some on the LM here to save on fuel [21-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: So, for now, Purchase supplies at CX? [21-Apr-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: DW and RAT are pretty easy to fill in the local market (LM), especially if you take into account the travel time from CX [21-Apr-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Okay, thanks [21-Apr-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Yea, figured that, lol [21-Apr-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I haven't done it before but I think that's someone giving another person money [21-Apr-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Ah, seems cheaty, but oh well [21-Apr-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: hehe [21-Apr-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: If you ever need a loan I think that's how to do it [21-Apr-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Or you can think of it like selling your old car to a friend for $1 [21-Apr-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I can see that [21-Apr-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Getting started in this game is definitely slow but things pick up over a few days [21-Apr-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I figured as much. Closest thing to this ive done was a rich economic focused Space Engineers Server [21-Apr-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: This seems much more complex [21-Apr-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Cool! I haven't really played another game like this before but agree it is complex [21-Apr-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rasdwatrium** joined.* [21-Apr-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bitchdredger** joined.* [21-Apr-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That’s me soliciting donations for a governance program, please don’t pay it if you’re new haha [21-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I dont need RAT that bad [21-Apr-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: πŸ‘ [21-Apr-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShinyGoldCoin** joined.* [21-Apr-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I highly recommend getting over to Discord too guys [21-Apr-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AutoBacs_7** joined.* [21-Apr-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and dont drink any water you buy from neke86 without boiling it thoroughly first [21-Apr-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's only a problem if you're opposing me for Governor [21-Apr-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ;) [21-Apr-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AutoBacs_7** left.* [21-Apr-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Looks like a whole new crowd for my meth-RATs [21-Apr-22 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: lol [21-Apr-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taluss** joined.* [21-Apr-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***leobrodo1912** joined.* [21-Apr-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: The Steam Launch is what got me to start [21-Apr-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome [21-Apr-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***justakvothe420** joined.* [21-Apr-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Thank you [21-Apr-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ColdTaku** joined.* [21-Apr-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epicanor** joined.* [21-Apr-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Neke, I don't have the company rating to qualify for your sells of overalls, so I placed an order for the same price [21-Apr-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay thanks for the warning, I'll change them [21-Apr-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Thank you [21-Apr-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Need anything else? [21-Apr-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I'll likely be buying more RAT and DW [21-Apr-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also if you want stuff taken to the Cx for sale, place a shipping ad [21-Apr-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: make it "A" rating [21-Apr-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I should have some H2O production coming [21-Apr-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dont be burning huge amounts of fuel [21-Apr-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pricing varies but you'll get picked up at ~5 cis per t/m3 [21-Apr-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Okay, I'll keep that in mind, thanks [21-Apr-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I run two ships constantly back and forth [21-Apr-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Awesome [21-Apr-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Are the prices I'm doing okay? I'm trying to reflect prices from the Benten station [21-Apr-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah if you aim around there should be fine [21-Apr-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Okay, thanks [21-Apr-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can try cheaper in bulk often [21-Apr-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Noted [21-Apr-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: I assume I should wait for now. Wait for production to process and then proceed with expansion when I can afford it? [21-Apr-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: prrrobably [21-Apr-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loganeubanks54** joined.* [21-Apr-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hooternanny** joined.* [21-Apr-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RobBosss** joined.* [21-Apr-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can anyone sell me.. 12 H ? [21-Apr-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: any price.. 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I can cover 12 [21-Apr-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [21-Apr-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: appreciated [21-Apr-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **cbnoble**: no problem [21-Apr-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: queueing up 80,000 PE hahahahaha [21-Apr-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 12 H short [21-Apr-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **cbnoble**: i love doing stuff like that :) [21-Apr-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Finishing 800 REP tomorrow, then a few days of PE, then a few days of MCG (10,000) [21-Apr-22 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So don't go over-paying for PE/MCG too soon :) [21-Apr-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldStir** joined.* [21-Apr-22 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arceeze** joined.* [21-Apr-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pro.BRgt** left.* [21-Apr-22 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldStir** left.* [21-Apr-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MWE3000** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T-Rex_415** left.* [21-Apr-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hendo** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stragenor** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berney** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thechair** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mosesslime** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hey Katoans, if any of you are running a smelter here please reach out to me [21-Apr-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ALO coming... [21-Apr-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: more than I can handle with my 12 smelters I think [21-Apr-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApexRex** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SuperSamwise** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KrazyKamikaze** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CADZILLA** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SaltyDog** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Cooked_Chicken_** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: I'll take a few. like 10 [21-Apr-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: but its the BSE's I'm needing. 21 [21-Apr-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: and low on cash [21-Apr-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: could use 1k PE [21-Apr-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: need 12 H? pop it up [21-Apr-22 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nimuri** joined.* [21-Apr-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Can anyone sell me some OVE? [21-Apr-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: TThanks [21-Apr-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: can do ya 50 at 54 [21-Apr-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: enough for a day or 2 right? 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Oh man, now I'm worried! [22-Apr-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: LOL [22-Apr-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: thanks @Knarfaction for filling my contract. That was my first one [22-Apr-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome [22-Apr-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @the new Katoans dont bother with the overpriced MCG on the CX just post a buy ad at what you think is a reasonable price and i will help you out [22-Apr-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: Sounds great, I'll definitely keep that in mind when I start to expand a bit [22-Apr-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***doskias2003** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jwkersey** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TomTomKastike** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***noobmaster21** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MasterLooser** joined.* [22-Apr-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Illmarin** joined.* [22-Apr-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thinkingLeymo** joined.* [22-Apr-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ajeas** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EndlessSiren** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KatraenVenteri** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kahove** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Smacd** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver21** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ClownStrike** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***goshawks** joined.* [22-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaucasianJuan** joined.* [22-Apr-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***necris66** joined.* [22-Apr-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***portamigra** left.* [22-Apr-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Can someone put 10 overpriced COF onto the LM, please? [22-Apr-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: maybe 5? [22-Apr-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheProphecy** joined.* [22-Apr-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stephendbeckman** joined.* [22-Apr-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Sorry mate, not a lot of coffee around I guess. You may want to ask in Discord too though. [22-Apr-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daniel.Leinad** joined.* [22-Apr-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoubleGreat** joined.* [22-Apr-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleBallek** joined.* [22-Apr-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XeontheMechdragon** joined.* [22-Apr-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***45neo** joined.* [22-Apr-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CvAmp** joined.* [22-Apr-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jonnn** joined.* [22-Apr-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scottisheep** left.* [22-Apr-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***linuxv** joined.* [22-Apr-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oops can anyone spare some HCP, say 100? [22-Apr-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: got my shipments a bit messed up and ran out before my next shipment arrives lol [22-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: If no one fills it, I have 50 I can sell (and don't need back) [22-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: could i buy it now and il change my buy order to 50? [22-Apr-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: yup [22-Apr-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks mate [22-Apr-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: NP [22-Apr-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zent75** joined.* [22-Apr-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsNiko** joined.* [22-Apr-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krisko2002** joined.* [22-Apr-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PVPMaster404** joined.* [22-Apr-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pivku** joined.* [22-Apr-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***THECAKEMAKER** joined.* [22-Apr-22 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ageudum** joined.* [22-Apr-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KlampK** joined.* [22-Apr-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirlelouch** joined.* [22-Apr-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polarosity** joined.* [22-Apr-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talsumi** joined.* [22-Apr-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talsumi** left.* [22-Apr-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 10,000 MCG completing in 29 hours, I am going to put them on the LM for pre-sale at 20/u to try and alleviate the price pressure from the CX. They will be delivered in 48 hours, but payment terms up to five days. Anything not pre-sold goes to the CX. [22-Apr-22 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I am doing similar for DW and OVE [22-Apr-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: sounds like it will be a great help to all us new players. Thanks! [22-Apr-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: sold my hcp yesterday [22-Apr-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Done, sorry for the LM spam [22-Apr-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The DW/OVE is deliverable immediately, on five day payment [22-Apr-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mainslynet** left.* [22-Apr-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SrJavi-Kun** joined.* [22-Apr-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MotherSoren** joined.* [22-Apr-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Faruzen** joined.* [22-Apr-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SkullWarrior569** joined.* [22-Apr-22 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magau** joined.* [22-Apr-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erdnaway** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NMNSHRMA** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazardous67681** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***seFEARoth_AlucarD** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uneik** joined.* [22-Apr-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kerplunk177** left.* [22-Apr-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***seFEARoth_AlucarD** left.* [22-Apr-22 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Winden** left.* [23-Apr-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aroud** joined.* [23-Apr-22 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DK_Belphegor** joined.* [23-Apr-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mranch4** joined.* [23-Apr-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mandos1407** joined.* [23-Apr-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ledger** joined.* [23-Apr-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @neke86 im sure 1000 MCG is a bit much for any new player [23-Apr-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ah well [23-Apr-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: After they expire I’ll try again [23-Apr-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What do new players need these days? [23-Apr-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I guess most new folk can’t even use the LM [23-Apr-22 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SayakaAndo** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OSOGR** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wiewior** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***842u** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cekir** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fev_** left.* [23-Apr-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nolcaj** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ALO on the LM @Sarantia @Tarnese @Loaf [23-Apr-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zevan** joined.* [23-Apr-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Made 5 GV I don't want, posted to LM for 800/u [23-Apr-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sir_Gideon_Ofnir** joined.* [23-Apr-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***120971944** joined.* [23-Apr-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: is anyone interested in PE on the local market? or should I take it to commodity exchange? 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[23-Apr-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: I know it took me like 2 weeks before i noticed it lol [23-Apr-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rj21**: Hey man [23-Apr-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: lol katoa has 0/387(+125) for plots does that mean we are 125 over the 387? [23-Apr-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I "Think" it means we are now at 0 ployts left, and we had 125 filled in last x hours (24?) but i could be completely wrong [23-Apr-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ie we were 125/387 and have had 125 new arrivals so now full [23-Apr-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Modhan** joined.* [23-Apr-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tons** left.* [23-Apr-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rj21**: I don't know what I am doing [23-Apr-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rj21**: Like, I am doing something, but that something is very vague for me [23-Apr-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rj21** left.* [23-Apr-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Let us know if you need some guidance :) [23-Apr-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***baheryes** joined.* [23-Apr-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spampii** joined.* [23-Apr-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***liamsix006** joined.* [23-Apr-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NPG** joined.* [23-Apr-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: what start did u choose Rj21? 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MS UV-351a [23-Apr-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Without the a - MS UV-351 [23-Apr-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hanzyfranzy**: yeah that worked [23-Apr-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hanzyfranzy**: not sure why click on the dots in the universe map doesn't open up the system map graphics though [23-Apr-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Obvious** joined.* [23-Apr-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarnum** joined.* [23-Apr-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Djfilthi** joined.* [23-Apr-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rahlekk** joined.* [23-Apr-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** joined.* [23-Apr-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Djfilthi** left.* [23-Apr-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trollcrafter** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rahlekk** left.* [23-Apr-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hanzyfranzy** left.* [23-Apr-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuroxy** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** left.* [23-Apr-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Voreden** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BelterOPA** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** left.* [23-Apr-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***D1ZZY** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kskefeafyonlu** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaveCoen** joined.* [23-Apr-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Admirall__Apollo** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll be keeping a bulk supply of ALO here: LM KW-358B [23-Apr-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The price will come down as my base develops experts and I get PIO filled [23-Apr-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It’s a short flight, 200 SF + 85 FF = about 11-12 hours [23-Apr-22 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ezverygood** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evolivolution** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evolivolution** left.* [23-Apr-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luzinga** joined.* [23-Apr-22 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evolivolution** joined.* [23-Apr-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dez_The_Dapper_Skaven** joined.* [23-Apr-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erol** joined.* [23-Apr-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freeb1rdzz** joined.* [23-Apr-22 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DropTea** joined.* [23-Apr-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***b5g6m9** joined.* [23-Apr-22 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PTR21** joined.* [23-Apr-22 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilargierdi** joined.* [23-Apr-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raieon** joined.* [23-Apr-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** left.* [23-Apr-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** joined.* [23-Apr-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***desertfox** joined.* [23-Apr-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***troqui111** joined.* [23-Apr-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vexal** left.* [23-Apr-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UtolWbeanU** joined.* [23-Apr-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sybaris** joined.* [23-Apr-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThornOnYT** joined.* [23-Apr-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rhizick** joined.* [23-Apr-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** joined.* [23-Apr-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coins** joined.* [23-Apr-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThomastheDankEngine** joined.* [23-Apr-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Catboy_Enjoyer** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iisGavin** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coxatrice** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpanDexDax** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @karr1981 nice C ads you have there but 250/C is a bit high if i have to wait up to 20d for delivery [24-Apr-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rusha** joined.* [24-Apr-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kolyakosnik** joined.* [24-Apr-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***uzi** joined.* [24-Apr-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cdog427** joined.* [24-Apr-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimTrinity** joined.* [24-Apr-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimTrinity** left.* [24-Apr-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimTrinity** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaPaolo** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tgo** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***twrhiten** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApxGeN** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: could anyone put 10 DW on the local market to help avert a micro famine caused by logistical error? ;) [24-Apr-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: oh wait ive got pro atm, ill post an ad myself and hope [24-Apr-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***puppetjam** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chill_Gates** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calamababa** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amanlu** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hota** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoTTorious** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BAKASUR** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Papermancer** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shaka** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StarFax** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brudigem515** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PiSKaczynski** joined.* [24-Apr-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChibiOmni** joined.* [24-Apr-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got a little bit of GRN i cna buy on LM to fill a shortage? only need like 50 - 100 [24-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trepanado** joined.* [24-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fortadupsa** joined.* [24-Apr-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grolok** joined.* [24-Apr-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimTrinity** left.* [24-Apr-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Friday** joined.* [24-Apr-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xus** joined.* [24-Apr-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kleinrohan13** joined.* [24-Apr-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pivku** left.* [24-Apr-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antario** joined.* [24-Apr-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***QJot** joined.* [24-Apr-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antario** left.* [24-Apr-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antario** joined.* [24-Apr-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoBCatt** joined.* [24-Apr-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ghent** joined.* [24-Apr-22 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Killergameplay7** joined.* [24-Apr-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hayser** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cardin** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zesortinge** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: can do 50, its my floor [24-Apr-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: *minimum qty on hand [24-Apr-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OGBerry** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: that's the reasonable price for 1t shipping contract to CI1? [24-Apr-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: *what's [24-Apr-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: between 3 and 5 per t or mΒ³ whatever is higher [24-Apr-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK ty [24-Apr-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreyOmnia** joined.* [24-Apr-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Northino** joined.* [24-Apr-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jarak** joined.* [24-Apr-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Metsa** left.* [24-Apr-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BotFr** joined.* [24-Apr-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** left.* [24-Apr-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpectrumGhost** joined.* [24-Apr-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bolton** joined.* [24-Apr-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’d also offer at least 50 cis [24-Apr-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for a 1t contract [24-Apr-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpectrumGhost** left.* [24-Apr-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpectrumGhost** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VorianAtreides** joined.* [24-Apr-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Risal** left.* [24-Apr-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: so if you goof on your start up can you reset? [24-Apr-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes, you can- COLIQ command [24-Apr-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApexRex** left.* [24-Apr-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shaka** left.* [24-Apr-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApexRex** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaoo** joined.* [24-Apr-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deputation** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Economan** left.* [24-Apr-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nhbg** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainStraz** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AstrumRemi** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eternal_tilted** joined.* [24-Apr-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***doid83** left.* [24-Apr-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I think this is my third attempt lol [24-Apr-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kirks** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Testosterone** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tuvok** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rexe21** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flingorin** joined.* [24-Apr-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bigdogbackstroke** joined.* [24-Apr-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Hehe yeah this game can be tough [24-Apr-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Sometimes you just gotta live with a mistake :] [24-Apr-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaxN** joined.* [24-Apr-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KastroXi** joined.* [24-Apr-22 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HighLevelNoob** joined.* [24-Apr-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: If you're on a planet that is within a couple system hops from a CX, there are very few mistakes that are *actually* worth a COLIQ. I know it doesn't *seem* that way when you're first getting into the game. But after a few months, you'll look back and chuckle. JMO. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ [24-Apr-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: In any case, welcome to the game! πŸ™‚ [24-Apr-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i made some bad decisions, but before i knew about coliq. i was already invested in my plan to mitigate those mistakes by the time i heard about coliq [24-Apr-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sid2784** joined.* [24-Apr-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ManCannon** joined.* [24-Apr-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crossfi73** joined.* [24-Apr-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Yeah Ryst, after a recent coliq i realize now that was probably a mistake [24-Apr-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: So I totally agree with what you said [24-Apr-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: RATs for sale, trapped locally at the Katoa spaceport. Served with a Spicy Honey sauce. [24-Apr-22 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **korvax**: how to make a shipping contract? [24-Apr-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @korvax open LMOS (Local Market) and choose Post Ad button near the top [24-Apr-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/local-markets/#example-placing-a-shipping-ad {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/local-markets/ 8. Local Markets :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [24-Apr-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **korvax**: thanks! [24-Apr-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: πŸ‘ [24-Apr-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hayser** left.* [24-Apr-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fmjshootersnipe** joined.* [24-Apr-22 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptObvious** joined.* [25-Apr-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Any demand for FE on planet? 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I'm curious [25-Apr-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Example: I'm a ration farmer [25-Apr-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Psycho994_GER** joined.* [25-Apr-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raug** joined.* [25-Apr-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PADOCA** joined.* [25-Apr-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buzzkill66** joined.* [25-Apr-22 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LetoThe2nd** left.* [25-Apr-22 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raug** left.* [25-Apr-22 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warrior19** joined.* [25-Apr-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warrior19** left.* [25-Apr-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FumingFrog21218** joined.* [25-Apr-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CheeseVehicle** joined.* [25-Apr-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: RAT farmer also, I also burn stuff to make carbon to keep myself from being carbon neutral. FYI there may be a bit of a Water shortage due to transport delays from KW-688, hopefully the extractors will start offering transportation and selling contracts on either LM. 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I hope we got some water pumps going, because have completely run out of H20 on BEN CX [25-Apr-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: oh wow, huge demand too [25-Apr-22 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Yeah, it's massive [25-Apr-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: It casually is being bought at $10+ more than current price [25-Apr-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: haha no worries, thought I would throw it up there and see if anyone bites. My ships are off running cargo [25-Apr-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: same [25-Apr-22 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: If anyone has a casual 22000 CIS, you could buy 1000 and ship it over to the CX [25-Apr-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Also, if anyone is new on benton and looking to make a quick buck, you could make a nice 1300CIS getting those shipping contracts done [25-Apr-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: those are nice looking shipping contracts [25-Apr-22 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: they really are [25-Apr-22 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: could take two of them at a time [26-Apr-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pantsentranced** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Outlook7** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Narrim** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxisPrime** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkarm** joined.* [26-Apr-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ph0sph0rus** joined.* [26-Apr-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wren** joined.* [26-Apr-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazelsaurus** joined.* [26-Apr-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jack-In-Irons** joined.* [26-Apr-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wasgood** joined.* [26-Apr-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kriegsspiel__** joined.* [26-Apr-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krayzee** joined.* [26-Apr-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you take ads to CB-282d (which I recommend) make sure you're not burning too much fuel. From memory, ~185 SF and ~100 FF was very close to optimal for speed there and back vs profit on a 10,000 CIS contract [26-Apr-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I see the H2O.CI1 shortage again and am redirecting resources. I'll have water coming in 48-72 hours, if you have ships available in +72h to assist rehydrating the LM please reach out to me to arrange shipping. [26-Apr-22 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The first 2,200 units hits Benten CX in ~14-15 hours [26-Apr-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BaalDL** joined.* [26-Apr-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I even pay 12k for the cb-282d contracts. Your fuel estimate is pretty good. i even got it to work with a little bit less fuel for a travel time of 24h per way. Thats what i base my profit estimation on. [26-Apr-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xbladeazz** joined.* [26-Apr-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: iirc 185/100 matched my wake windows and optimized β€œcontracts per week” [26-Apr-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yeah wake windows is a good point. no need for the ship to arrive at 4 in the morning :-). [26-Apr-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i dont see anything wrong with 4 am ;-) [26-Apr-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Actually what I meant is that it landed at 5 am [26-Apr-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: when my toddler wakes me [26-Apr-22 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yes knar, depends on your wake window :-D [26-Apr-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warrior19** joined.* [26-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Coxatrice**: Oh my, you can change how much fuel you burn. Reading this chat is excellent [26-Apr-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Coxatrice**: I have a ship which I can use to transport some goods if that's still needed, very new to the game though so you might have to help me a touch at first [26-Apr-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***giannismoll7** joined.* [26-Apr-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sugmidik** joined.* [26-Apr-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frizzx** joined.* [26-Apr-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoxNihili** joined.* [26-Apr-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morrays** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pirata.capitao** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QJot** left.* [26-Apr-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QJot** joined.* [26-Apr-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoxNihili** left.* [26-Apr-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Hello readers. COGC has just come due with the new numbers and I believe the market rate for that would be 285,000 - 300,000. This is substantially above the collected dividend of 240,000, and excludes all POPI. For the next 48-60 hours, if you can and wish to donate to COGC an amount for which you DO NOT require recompense, please go ahead and do so! After that, if you wish to supply for sub-CX rates or wish to donate cash, please let me know directly so I can deconflict and arrange payments. Hopefully this is not required next time as dividends catch up to the player base - hopefully. [26-Apr-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i took care of the MCG and PE [26-Apr-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ayanami**: Im sorry neke, i dont think i understand. Im still very new [26-Apr-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoxNihili** joined.* [26-Apr-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you Knarf! [26-Apr-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dont worry if you don’t understand guys and ladies it doesn’t apply to you! [26-Apr-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Put some water into the park as a donation. Could also contribute PE im the future but knar is always so fast :) [26-Apr-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @nicster can I get the payment in advance for your CB-282d -> Kotoa shipment? my ship is on its way, I'll pick it up in ~24h [26-Apr-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: and I could really use the money now to get some supplies and keep my production going [26-Apr-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Hah! Just figured out there was planet chat! Such a newb [26-Apr-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jimologist** joined.* [26-Apr-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Volsung** joined.* [26-Apr-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***karsten144** joined.* [26-Apr-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: I have 48 FOD to sell. Best to list on local market or transport to Benten Station to sell on CX? 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[26-Apr-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***df049967** joined.* [26-Apr-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rimjobbob** joined.* [26-Apr-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: @Merrich also note that it’s not worth it to fly your ship to the station with just your FOD in. Try to fill it with shipping contracts or then create your own shipping contract so someone else can transport your stuff to the station. [26-Apr-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: you can also check out other planets and it might be worth flying a bit further out to fill a whole ship and make some good early money. There’s eg a gas giant CB-282d that often has ads filling a whole ship and paying around 10k. Basically paying for you to fly there empty and come back full. [26-Apr-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IDaedalusI** joined.* [26-Apr-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FOD is low turnover, I’d focus on RAT if you have the infrastructure [26-Apr-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snypes01** left.* [26-Apr-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'm buying FOD regularly [26-Apr-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: as I'm trying to grow Engineers [26-Apr-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah you’re buying as Governor? Me too [26-Apr-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No one else buys FOD though except governors do they? [26-Apr-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I forget if it has applications other than park upkeep [26-Apr-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: no just governors [26-Apr-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YarhcazEcaps** joined.* [26-Apr-22 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Copperrrr** left.* [26-Apr-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warrior19** left.* [26-Apr-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leadcask**: No H20 available at Benton Commodity Exchange...Scary [26-Apr-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **F4tal3d**: I drank it all sorry :) [26-Apr-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leadcask**: I knew IT! [26-Apr-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NearNagol** joined.* [26-Apr-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainRuka** left.* [26-Apr-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Incredible effort from our donors. the entire COGC program is funded within hoursπŸ₯² [26-Apr-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve put 2,250 H2O on the exchange at 30/u. The price is to defer scalpers, more is coming and I’ll list it progressively cheaper but this will keep you out of the trouble until stock arrives [26-Apr-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: deter* [26-Apr-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Seems that our dear governor's trust rating is quite high [26-Apr-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: 3 cheers for Neke86. Thanks! [26-Apr-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hans1942** joined.* [26-Apr-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I got a ship headed to the CX by tomorrow. If anyone wants water, I can ship it back at net 10% [26-Apr-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: Thanks for the offer @seapear. Nothing for me just yet though, thanks [26-Apr-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MortemR** joined.* [26-Apr-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have a ship at the CX waiting for shipping posts to Katoa, BTW. There is one there but I need more to justify the fuel. [26-Apr-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Yeah, hot tip, post to the LM if you can justify fuel [26-Apr-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The one shipping post in the LM pays 100 CIS and 11 units of fuel would cost 1159.95 CIS if I was not making my own fuel. [26-Apr-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 111 units not 11. [26-Apr-22 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Where you getting your fuel? [26-Apr-22 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: 11 units of STL costs me 88NCC [26-Apr-22 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: or 88CIS* my pardon [26-Apr-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I make it. Typo 111 units CX price 10.45 CIS [26-Apr-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You can't go anywhere on 11 units of fuel. [26-Apr-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: economically speaking, yes. COGS of fuel yesterday was 8.19NCC / Unit [26-Apr-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: *Roughly speaking of course. Obvs not on the dot lol [26-Apr-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The point being. I have any empty ship sitting at the station. I have no credits at the moment to buy anything so I would need enough carg to justufy the trip. I'm just throwing up there for anyone that wants shipping. [26-Apr-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: yep, for sho :D [26-Apr-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I only have a little bit of fuel to sell because I have been making HE3 for a couple of days. [26-Apr-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: There's some FTL markets that might be interested in that HE3 [26-Apr-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Otherwise I would be jumping on that 9.01 CIS at the CX right now. [26-Apr-22 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I use it to make FF. [26-Apr-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When I am running low on H I make HE3. I have 3 refineries right now. [26-Apr-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm tight for credits because I just bought the parts to built another base. [26-Apr-22 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sriwee** joined.* [27-Apr-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drewbot** joined.* [27-Apr-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Farquaad** joined.* [27-Apr-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @Gilith sure, sent you the money :-). Thx for transporting for Stonemere Inc :-). [27-Apr-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: For everyone wanting to ship H for me from CB-282d, i can sell fairly cheap on Katoa. [27-Apr-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorsePerVita** joined.* [27-Apr-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eridus** left.* [27-Apr-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Coxatrice**: Does anyone need anything Hauled to Proxion or Kiruna? I have 300t spare on a shiping contract [27-Apr-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duke_Luke** left.* [27-Apr-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitsune** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bigbananas74** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fahrenheit512** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PencilXing** joined.* [27-Apr-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: thanks @Nicster much appreciated [27-Apr-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FarniteV** left.* [27-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***1drew** joined.* [27-Apr-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jwkersey** left.* [27-Apr-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harfung** joined.* [27-Apr-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taii_** joined.* [27-Apr-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BisialPL** left.* [27-Apr-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: AL, OFF, SIO, H all listed in small quantities on the LM. [27-Apr-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you can help me source cheap LST here on Katoa (or help me ship mine from Proxion cheaply) I can start production runs to alleviate the MCG price rise [27-Apr-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: My ships are currently on water hauling duties! [27-Apr-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MythosOfs** joined.* [27-Apr-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spyking62** joined.* [27-Apr-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spyking62** left.* [27-Apr-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***00VoxNihili00** joined.* [27-Apr-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elbillal** left.* [27-Apr-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spyking62** joined.* [27-Apr-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harfung** left.* [27-Apr-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **b5g6m9**: @neke86 How do I help get LST here? I have the starting license. Can I help you ship yours from Proxion? [27-Apr-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: What do you need to make a new base? [27-Apr-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: if you select the planet you want to settle you click start base at the bottom and the game will tell you what you need [27-Apr-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: but the planet needs to have free plots [27-Apr-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thanks Knarf! [27-Apr-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lellaraz** left.* [27-Apr-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @b5g6m9 I think you need a Pro license at least once to access the LM, where you would accept shipping ads and fly to and back from the destination. If you’re brand new though there are more lucrative contracts for shipping available :) [27-Apr-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Komas33** joined.* [27-Apr-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: I can ship LST over. How does 100 per week sound? [27-Apr-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: just no low ball f'g offers it's heavy stuff [27-Apr-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: if the CX is beter priced I'll just take it there [27-Apr-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ads up already, will be resuming my own flights in a week or so [27-Apr-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: mine are priced around 5/t [27-Apr-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: which is 12-14 per LST [27-Apr-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceManowar** joined.* [27-Apr-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: LST.CI1 LST.NC1 [27-Apr-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I just upgraded to pro, where do I find the LM ads? [27-Apr-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: at each planet (if built) and orbital exchange [27-Apr-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: lm uv-351a in buffer for us [27-Apr-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thank you both [27-Apr-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApexRex** left.* [27-Apr-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Small number of shipping adverts to BEN for those interested, LM UV-351a [27-Apr-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stek** joined.* [27-Apr-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: Thanks @Gravy [27-Apr-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mumbo** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vouke** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AcornWasTaken** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: What caused the large pioneer population increase on Katoa this last cycle and what concerns if any does this introduce? [27-Apr-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: Steam launch brought in a ton of new players [27-Apr-22 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok. Figured that was the reason. Guess we will see how many stick around and actually do anything. [27-Apr-22 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChewDada** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I'm guessing there will be a lot of unemployed pioneers in the not too distant future [27-Apr-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***trevor.gillen** joined.* [27-Apr-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***F0xx** joined.* [27-Apr-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Chaldon I was referring to shipping price, not buying it. I already have the LST on Proxion :) [27-Apr-22 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saradomix** left.* [27-Apr-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jay2smooth** joined.* [28-Apr-22 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tolerableship02** joined.* [28-Apr-22 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZeroTheory** left.* [28-Apr-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kairi** joined.* [28-Apr-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bokuto** joined.* [28-Apr-22 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pooslinger29** left.* [28-Apr-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Psilovybin** left.* [28-Apr-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AssassineMaxli** left.* [28-Apr-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kinski** joined.* [28-Apr-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RawX** left.* [28-Apr-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Veluth** left.* [28-Apr-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grimwold** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **b5g6m9**: @neke86 Got your message. Thanks. [28-Apr-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luckydux** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thanatos_Fola** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Good morning everyone [28-Apr-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrMcG33k** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kinski** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5dac2d0778** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: o/ Morning [28-Apr-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hi! [28-Apr-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: <- 4 pm good morning i guess [28-Apr-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***00VoxNihili00** left.* [28-Apr-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m in CET for the next ten weeks so should be around more [28-Apr-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _even more_ [28-Apr-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Ahoy Govna [28-Apr-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I started my first run on Vallis as manufacturing. Started looking around and decided to COLIQ and come here instead [28-Apr-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***T4RKUS** left.* [28-Apr-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korbin_Dallas** left.* [28-Apr-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome! [28-Apr-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Plenty of manufacturing going on here [28-Apr-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [28-Apr-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: buoyed by higher demand from the surge in new players [28-Apr-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UltimeCookie** joined.* [28-Apr-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have H2O on planet, 2,500 units [28-Apr-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: price is 25/u, I'll fill any ads I see [28-Apr-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Apologies for the price but it got tangled up in shipping [28-Apr-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 500 buy up [28-Apr-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Filled [28-Apr-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [28-Apr-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got 5 SIO lying about [28-Apr-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm short for a bulk order [28-Apr-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've left a buy ad up at 100/u [28-Apr-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @Knarf [28-Apr-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome [28-Apr-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I miss having 30 BMPs [28-Apr-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20 just doesn't hit right [28-Apr-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: what should i say with my 15 XD [28-Apr-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah we're in the casuals bracket [28-Apr-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have posted shipping ads for another 5,000 H2O if anyone would like to assist in flooding this place [28-Apr-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh wow, SIO.CI1 [28-Apr-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why would you even bother listing SIO at 168/u? [28-Apr-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: To store it? [28-Apr-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ROBOTOV** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krimys** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amazon_Corp** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CypherActive** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere1fb2d76c9** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilargierdi** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nommer_2l** joined.* [28-Apr-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I have 1 BMP soon to be 2 in regards to your casuals comment [28-Apr-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: i put a buy order for 100 mcg at 30 each if anyone can help me out, <-- dumb dumb just left station and forgot to get some for repairs [28-Apr-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Ooooof [28-Apr-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Patatras** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TamSchnow265** joined.* [28-Apr-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***4DIS** joined.* [28-Apr-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToothlessCharizard** joined.* [28-Apr-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotHello66** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***qawsedrftgzh** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***denis123** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sergo** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skallpadde** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crackability** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZenWhisper** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***flub3r** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qasz** joined.* [28-Apr-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YoeJates** joined.* [28-Apr-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alesann** joined.* [28-Apr-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone able to supply 16 MHL? 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[28-Apr-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: hi! [28-Apr-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: How is your business coming along. What do you make [28-Apr-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: good! i make fuel [28-Apr-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Me too! [28-Apr-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: specializing in STL [28-Apr-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I just started the game so I dont know what that is. [28-Apr-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Slower than light [28-Apr-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: think of it like gas vs. diesel [28-Apr-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Awesome [28-Apr-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I make gas [28-Apr-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: My first recommendation would be to figure out which one you want to produce [28-Apr-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: FTL or STL [28-Apr-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Okay thank you. [28-Apr-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: You'll need to head to the CX and pick up the required gases. [28-Apr-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: personally... STL is where it is at volume-wise [28-Apr-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Can i make contracts with companies and get special continuing deals? [28-Apr-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: How do i contact them and find them. [28-Apr-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Well, every player is a company [28-Apr-22 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: So, if you find a hydrogen producer that is willing to sell you hydrogen at a reduced rate... then yes [28-Apr-22 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Cool [28-Apr-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I'm a good negotiator. [28-Apr-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: So if you ever need help let me know. I've read books on negotiation. [28-Apr-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Whats the advantage of COF over water [28-Apr-22 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: well [28-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: COF.CI1 [28-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: DW.CI1 [28-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: you tell me lol [28-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: i mean like do i need cof [28-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: because id rather not [28-Apr-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: sounds like coffee [28-Apr-22 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: ah [28-Apr-22 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: no [28-Apr-22 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: it's not required [28-Apr-22 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: COF gives your workers more efficiency [28-Apr-22 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: In the beginning I wish I did not do COF early, i could have had one more construction instead of the 1hour imporvment to some of my queues [28-Apr-22 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Yeah... there's got to be a severe cost benefits to do COF [28-Apr-22 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Padded Work was only was the better way to go at the time they were cheaper than they are now [28-Apr-22 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: You hit your margins fairly hard with an expense like that [28-Apr-22 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: ok [28-Apr-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: I buy COF only occassionally when I need a queue to finish at specific times when I get online to handle contracts. or post new ones. [28-Apr-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: That's an interesting strat [28-Apr-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: do you get to talk to a lot of people? [28-Apr-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: You can... [28-Apr-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Okay. it is less financially desirable to do deals with people far away? delivery fees? [28-Apr-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blacksh33p** left.* [29-Apr-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Well COGS on STL are sitting at about 3.83 today, the spread for most FX is at about 0.5-.6 you can buy FTL at about 9.5. If you do the math, you can. Keep in mind that everyone is going to want margin [29-Apr-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: I try not to dead head my ships now, fuel costs have gone up. [29-Apr-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Costs are going up because of demand, cost to make has gone from approximately 4.05 -> 3.83 [29-Apr-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I cant change the bid/ask on my order. is that normal? [29-Apr-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: delete and repost. [29-Apr-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: i have trial [29-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: cxl [29-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: whats the lm [29-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Local Market [29-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Local Market [29-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: oh okay [29-Apr-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Use the CXOS command. That'll get you going on deleting your request on the CX [29-Apr-22 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: Katoa Local Market has buy / sell orders, as well as shipping. [29-Apr-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: it says illegal command [29-Apr-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: trying to get to local market, maybe cheaper [29-Apr-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: CXOS that's an O, not a zero [29-Apr-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Egeis**: not likely, the LM tends to be a bit more expensive but if your base is here it can save you on shippign if you are only looking for a few items. [29-Apr-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: yeah i put that [29-Apr-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Make sure to open a new BFR when you do this command [29-Apr-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: thank you [29-Apr-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Start typing in CX... and there should be an autofill for a "List of your Commodity Exchange orders" [29-Apr-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: i do buffer for lm [29-Apr-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: and it says illegal command [29-Apr-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: LM UV-351a [29-Apr-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Trials can't buy/sell/ship on the LM [29-Apr-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Keep in MIND!! If you don't have a ship or warehouse on the station the CX is located on, your buy order will remain dormant until you bring a ship to the station! [29-Apr-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: So if you think of trading commodities right off the hop, you can't as you need to get a ship there. [29-Apr-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: ooh i see shipping contracts [29-Apr-22 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: ok looks like the lm doesnt have everything i need [29-Apr-22 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Keep in mind that the LM is a very useful but also risky space to be in. There isn't any market forces or MM forces being applied to it, and you can lose a lot of money really quickly on the LM and you won't even notice [29-Apr-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: thanks [29-Apr-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: okay how do i move my ships [29-Apr-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: i want to buy consumables from the cxl [29-Apr-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Yup. Command FLT [29-Apr-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: in a new BFR [29-Apr-22 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: ok cool [29-Apr-22 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: You'll see two ships, and few commands. The one you want is FLY. What you'll then do is type into the destination BEN, which will autofill wit the Benten station CX. Then, put in the amount of STL you are willing to burn, and then set sail [29-Apr-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: If you are going to play in the LM space, have a calculator with you at all times. [29-Apr-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: ok [29-Apr-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: CX markets for day-trading-ish things are only valid for a couple of items, and most people post massive volumes which you can't buy. Personally... it's better to produce. If I could do it over again, I wouldn't send my ship to the station until I had some STL to sell [29-Apr-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Can players make basic structural elements and stuff? [29-Apr-22 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: yes [29-Apr-22 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: basic structural elements [29-Apr-22 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: yes [29-Apr-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lauromine** left.* [29-Apr-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: fairly good profit there too [29-Apr-22 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: looks like it's about 700-800 per a sale [29-Apr-22 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Probably looking about... i'd say 600. And the volume is healthy [29-Apr-22 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rajang470** left.* [29-Apr-22 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Byron90** left.* [29-Apr-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: awesome thank you [29-Apr-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Folks I'm looking to start an oxygen production company. [29-Apr-22 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: If anyone would like to join please private message me. I need to know our output so I can start negotiating with iron producers. [29-Apr-22 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: just two quick things. 1. You were talking about STL Fuel but the abbreviation is SF. Same for FTL Fuel which is called FF. It's very confusing because the abreviation STL stands for Steel :-D. Im just telling you this so that you don't buy Steel instead of SF by accident :-D. [29-Apr-22 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 2. I am one of the biggest H producers in Ben space, so if you need some H we can work out some deal :-). I gladly help newer players to get a bit of a head start. [29-Apr-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Groanish** joined.* [29-Apr-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Nicster that would be great! [29-Apr-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I just realized the only thing I can really do here is produce SF fuel. [29-Apr-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arthinis** joined.* [29-Apr-22 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Well Katoa is a manufacturing planet, so BMPs are also a good thing. But the strenght of Katoa is not it's resources but the closeness to the CX. I personally use as some kind of hub for all my bases. [29-Apr-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So I made my first ad in a local market. I see the fee deducted on the financials as well but when will I see the ad? [29-Apr-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Riflecat** left.* [29-Apr-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Should be instant [29-Apr-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhoebeBridgers** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MildlyVulgar** joined.* [29-Apr-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simonstok** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SkyRez** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lilith** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MichaelSixtyFour** left.* [29-Apr-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExtraDutch** joined.* [29-Apr-22 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChongJF** joined.* [29-Apr-22 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiwisniper** left.* [29-Apr-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: Need GAL. Posted on LM. [29-Apr-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Craplegend** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yuetau** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stefan23** left.* [29-Apr-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avgeek001** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is that reeeeeally necessary @Rasd ? [29-Apr-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bazz2201** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZedexJ7** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FazeDomTorretto** joined.* [29-Apr-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're interested in picking up cheap FEO, check out LM KW-358b, short flight away. [29-Apr-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VULCHOK** joined.* [29-Apr-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TDBlocks** joined.* [29-Apr-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone need OVE.CI1? [29-Apr-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can ship them to the CX for you if you like [29-Apr-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 70tm3 spare and literally about to fly [29-Apr-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i could fill that :-) [29-Apr-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay let me be more precise [29-Apr-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one second [29-Apr-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 62t, 66m3 [29-Apr-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I don't really have that many of them to make it worth it for either of us. More so only if someone needed them right now here at Katoa [29-Apr-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Or let me do some quick maths and get back to you in 30 seconds [29-Apr-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How many do you have [29-Apr-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: 22 lol [29-Apr-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Make some more first :P [29-Apr-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: posted :-) [29-Apr-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Yeah I'm churning them out now! I just need some capital to buy some more goods [29-Apr-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thx neke [29-Apr-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What do you need to buy? [29-Apr-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: LST and SIO now [29-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay, so you're running a BMP and want to make MCG? [29-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: But not enough to make someone's LM AD price worth it. I sort of took a gambit on building a new production line perhaps before I'm actually ready to supply it [29-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can give you SIO if you want. LST i am a bit short myself [29-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Buying LST at ~80, SIO at 100, and then having to ship that heavy stuff just isnt going to be be worth it [29-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: You can do what now [29-Apr-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I will find a way to pay you back @nicster [29-Apr-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How much SIO can you give him? [29-Apr-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have LST here [29-Apr-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: maybe 50 for starters [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can do 100 LST [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I would literally pass out [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But for one BMP thats a very long production time [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I have 2 that's kind of my problem I built it and have 4k in capital rn lmao [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ah [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure [29-Apr-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: But I have a winning plan! [29-Apr-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I am prepared to give my shark tank pitch [29-Apr-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pitch me [29-Apr-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Step 1 get SIO and LST Step 2 ??? Step 3 Profit [29-Apr-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: xD [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Step 1, buy SIO and LST off us on longer payment terms [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Step 2, make MCG [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Step 3, ??? [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Step 4 Profit [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Hahah [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have endless SIO on Etherwind [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Put up a buy ad for 50 SIO and one for 100 LST [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for the LST, make it 60 per unit (so 6,000 CIS) but on a 20-day contract [29-Apr-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: if you are willing to get it from there yourself, i am willing to give it to you for free for starters [29-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can pay it back after you sell the MCG [29-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ALTAR_BOI** joined.* [29-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yes make and ad for 1 CIS [29-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Oh interesting yeah a 20 day contract [29-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: or like that yes [29-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I hadn't considered that [29-Apr-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thats how i played for the first 2 months :-D. 20 day contracts all over the place [29-Apr-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Ok we've got some really solid deals here let me make sure I have this straight with Nic [29-Apr-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Nic you need me to go get the stuff from Etherwind but, you're willing to provide it at next to nothing? [29-Apr-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: "Free" sounds great but, I'd like this to be mutally beneficial [29-Apr-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can give you 50 SIO now on katoa with a 20 day contract. But in the future you can hit me up and if you are willing to get it yourself from etherwind, i can give it to you for next to nothing. i would also gladly fill your ship back from etherwind to katoa :-D [29-Apr-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: You are a saint [29-Apr-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you would help me in transporting my stuff to and from etherwind. [29-Apr-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'm going to create the LM ads. I think we have reached an accord [29-Apr-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Okay done [29-Apr-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Accepted and transfered [29-Apr-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Bless you good sir [29-Apr-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: @Nicster, I posted that ad. If you are able to fill it, I will get straight to work [29-Apr-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have up to 12 BHP for sale on Katoa as well [29-Apr-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dannn** left.* [29-Apr-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: accepted and transfered [29-Apr-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VULCHOK** left.* [29-Apr-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VULCHOK** joined.* [29-Apr-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***I-O** joined.* [29-Apr-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Astrogod_Official** joined.* [29-Apr-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zerozapper** joined.* [29-Apr-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wingate.white** left.* [29-Apr-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hmarka** left.* [29-Apr-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MapleBar** left.* [29-Apr-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hog_8541** left.* [29-Apr-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TG_GaymerKarl** left.* [29-Apr-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***durandal** left.* [29-Apr-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jgamer115** joined.* [29-Apr-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Thanks for the tip about the abbreviations. I'll make sure not to confuse people haha [29-Apr-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Also, whoever needs Galerite, I might recommend changing the price. Looking at a 30 day chart, GAL has never really gone for that cheap [29-Apr-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user994db3ce95** left.* [29-Apr-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sadavacado** joined.* [29-Apr-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VULCHOK** left.* [29-Apr-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***oscarbeadle7** joined.* [29-Apr-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BushyBandit** joined.* [29-Apr-22 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***22TwentyTwo** left.* [29-Apr-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EmperorNav** joined.* [29-Apr-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sycomaxle** joined.* [29-Apr-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sycomaxle** left.* [29-Apr-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lokitroy** joined.* [29-Apr-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xrgqlo** joined.* [29-Apr-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8a27b84357** left.* [29-Apr-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ume** joined.* [29-Apr-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc2bc6d896a** left.* [29-Apr-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pavlekagentek** left.* [29-Apr-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CmdrJorgs** left.* [29-Apr-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Satch** left.* [29-Apr-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dralhur** left.* [29-Apr-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fisheye** left.* [29-Apr-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChewDada** left.* [29-Apr-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChewDada** joined.* [29-Apr-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***milis3** left.* [29-Apr-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilentFury** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user631d8e00dc** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoshiU** joined.* [29-Apr-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userba87ed32f7** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XxFirexX** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dacur** joined.* [29-Apr-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Retros** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tristicles** left.* [29-Apr-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dzbanthedamned** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ember_188** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: "neke86: Is that reeeeeally necessary?" - Yes. I now own 28 SF REFs on Katoa. [29-Apr-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: @neke86 [29-Apr-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***castorvx** left.* [29-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cateyez** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OptExyz** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I'm looking for a large AMM supplier [29-Apr-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gold-Fedora** left.* [29-Apr-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lighning** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***7704** joined.* [29-Apr-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rasdwatrium** left.* [29-Apr-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Hey all, when creating a shipping contract on the local market, can I bundle a bunch of different items together somehow? Or do you need to make a contract for each unique item you want shipped? 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[29-Apr-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yintae** left.* [29-Apr-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I have 400+ LST on ementior if anyone wants to buy some just let me know [29-Apr-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: also looking to buy some PE [29-Apr-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I just started producing PE, so as of now I can only offer 1 000 [29-Apr-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: You interested? [29-Apr-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I can offer 1k PE too [29-Apr-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I can also offer 1k pe [29-Apr-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: @Gilith, TheNegotiator lets create union xD [29-Apr-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much you charging? [29-Apr-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: xD [29-Apr-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***C_Rhino** left.* [29-Apr-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 4CIS? [29-Apr-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taluss** left.* [29-Apr-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: we can charge it up a bit [29-Apr-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: 4,2 for 3 000 PE? [29-Apr-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh best i could do is 3.5 a unit and id buy all 3000 in 1000 orders [29-Apr-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: that owuld last me aobut a day hehe [29-Apr-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: 1000 orders of 3 each? [29-Apr-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I cant do that, even travel to Benten CX would cover the diff [29-Apr-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 3 buy orders for 1000 units at 3.5, il lplace now anyone can accept if they wantto fill [29-Apr-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Union holds xD [29-Apr-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehehe ;-) [29-Apr-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I posted selling ad [29-Apr-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: for 4,2 if you change your mind [29-Apr-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: same :) [29-Apr-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***justakvothe420** left.* [29-Apr-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: also i need to BTA if anyone has for a quick sale? [29-Apr-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 2 BTA [29-Apr-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: PE looksl ike a good market to focus on for new companies, i need a regular 5k a day supply so if anyone gets ot that level im happy ot discuss regular deal, also I run the Katoa Carbon Consortium so can help with C supply if needed [29-Apr-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Y, I have just started building around it. This planet is only missing hydrogen otherwise it is great. But I dont see having 5K/day of PE prod. in a near future. That is equivalent of 5 Basic Materials Plants and I cant see new companies having that. Or maybe I am just bad [29-Apr-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: nah your doing fine, companies do take a little time to scale up, dont worry it gets ncie and hectic :-) im up to 3 bases currently and my head hurts lol [29-Apr-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm turning my PE into SUN; not sure if it's viable yet, we'll see [29-Apr-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loganeubanks54** left.* [29-Apr-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***leobrodo1912** left.* [29-Apr-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: @karr1981 when will you run out of PE? [29-Apr-22 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: about 2 hours ago hahahahaha i was distracted on my C production didnt notice my BDE prod stalling [29-Apr-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Well, less profitable production is still better than none [29-Apr-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: just saying [29-Apr-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ;-) [29-Apr-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hooternanny** left.* [29-Apr-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I like your style, you will do well on Katoa :-) [29-Apr-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I think you should form a PE union [29-Apr-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have a ship leaving Katoa for Benton Station in about 2hrs. Still room for some cargo. [29-Apr-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spkywt** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Haha, I might :D. I was thinking and realized it is more of a cartel... the disapointed is immense [29-Apr-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: nothing wrong with a well organised cartel ;-) [29-Apr-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: at what time does the workforce consumption tick? [29-Apr-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: BBH, BDE and BSE sells up, if anyone needs more let me know [29-Apr-22 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***davidars123** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brewbeard** left.* [29-Apr-22 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mosquis25** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MortemR** left.* [29-Apr-22 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pakedskeezer** joined.* [29-Apr-22 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thereaperreality** left.* [29-Apr-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***General47** joined.* [29-Apr-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEarthIsFlat** joined.* [29-Apr-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arceeze** left.* [29-Apr-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***absolutehorizon** joined.* [29-Apr-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user331c67fc65** left.* [29-Apr-22 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Last call for cargo to go from Katao to Benton Station. Message me within 10 min or the ship sails. [29-Apr-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Grandpa waitt!!! [29-Apr-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I thought you dont do that grandpa? 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Ads are up. If the price is too low please contact me so you can sell me a golden DW to make up the difference. [30-Apr-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: Gastown hungers [30-Apr-22 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seraphsis** left.* [30-Apr-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***low_connection** left.* [30-Apr-22 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***A3802022** joined.* [30-Apr-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Leaving to Benten CX in a few minutes I can ship 350t cheaply if interested [30-Apr-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***arivez30** left.* [30-Apr-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magesty973** joined.* [30-Apr-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreemstait** left.* [30-Apr-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magesty973** left.* [30-Apr-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 3 buy ordrs up for BTA @ 2000, premium priced as urgently need [30-Apr-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thx [30-Apr-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sintheras**: np! 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[30-Apr-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: your choice [30-Apr-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: i’m on mobile so can’t check market easily [30-Apr-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: posted [30-Apr-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Thank you! 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[01-May-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Posting a buy for 50 RAT @ 70. Thanks for the notice. [01-May-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hackettmark** left.* [01-May-22 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd8fba5a09f** left.* [01-May-22 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera612012d8d** left.* [01-May-22 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Welcome all new players, can I please ask that you monitor this chat and participate where possible as well as seriously consider joining us on Discord. If you’re new here, make sure you participate in the COGC by voting in your best interests so I can see what our planet is doing. I use this information to inform a dynamic tax and population infrastructure policy and these should reflect the current interests of the Katoan companies rather than the incumbent economic powers in Manufacturing (myself included). I want to see Katoan remain a Manufacturing hub so please reach out to me if you’re struggling with your BMPs or getting started so I can offer advance or arrange assistance. [01-May-22 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: offer advice* [01-May-22 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: mobile autocorrect is brutal [01-May-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: vote using this buffer command: COGCPEX UV-351A [01-May-22 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user145653c4a5** left.* [01-May-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rag1** joined.* [01-May-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mandos1407** left.* [01-May-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ledger** left.* [01-May-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tymek** joined.* [01-May-22 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wiewior** left.* [01-May-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nekolas** joined.* [01-May-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drunaran** left.* [01-May-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nolcaj** left.* [01-May-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***felle29pelle** joined.* [01-May-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kahove** left.* [01-May-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jazziez1** left.* [01-May-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yawgmoth** left.* [01-May-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat5** left.* [01-May-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cabbage-** left.* [01-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LlamasAreSpies** left.* [01-May-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***embercoat** joined.* [01-May-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koffienoff** joined.* [01-May-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user452a0b26a6** left.* [01-May-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Oh shoot I think I missed the RAT shipment [01-May-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bromwell** left.* [01-May-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleBallek** left.* [01-May-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone sell RCO here? 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If you’d be interested in purchasing either of those (or a significant portion) before they go to an exchange, please DM me to discuss :) [02-May-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrypticAssault** joined.* [02-May-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The PE is sold. [02-May-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redblade** left.* [02-May-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jupiter_2007** joined.* [02-May-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sybaris** left.* [02-May-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BotFr** left.* [02-May-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Shoot, I missed it. Congrats on your business [02-May-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antario** left.* [02-May-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Anyone do the math/ or notice on how long it takes for Katoa and the CX take to come in close alignment? [02-May-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Incredible question ^ [02-May-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I am looking for a small RCO (Raw Cotton Fiber) supplier for the next few weeks. If you are interested DM me. Great for new starting players such as me, but every interested party is welcome. [02-May-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I sense OVE competitor :) [02-May-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: What can I say... :) [02-May-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoidsBard** joined.* [02-May-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Oh no you don't ;) [02-May-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: haha [02-May-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uzi** left.* [02-May-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkada** joined.* [02-May-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEarthIsFlat** left.* [02-May-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deputation** left.* [02-May-22 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rawn** joined.* [02-May-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainStraz** left.* [02-May-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grolok** left.* [02-May-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AstrumRemi** left.* [02-May-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eternal_tilted** left.* [02-May-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera0cf779e0b** left.* [02-May-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i see you formed the cartel Gideon :-) [02-May-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i mean legitimate corporation [02-May-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user278beb8012** left.* [02-May-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac82bb8606** left.* [02-May-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bigdogbackstroke** left.* [02-May-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flingorin** left.* [02-May-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rexe21** left.* [02-May-22 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueMush** joined.* [02-May-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: wow OVE's price [02-May-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I'd better get in on this lol [02-May-22 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MattPHS2002** joined.* [02-May-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HighLevelNoob** left.* [02-May-22 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: That won't last long. 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[02-May-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I guess I just have to beat you there before the price drops haha [02-May-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'm running OVE on my BMPs right now [02-May-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The demand is eternal, it ebbs and flows [02-May-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Anybody have an ELP on hand? [02-May-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can always pay someone to ship to another exchange for a better price too it’s very cheap to ship [02-May-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no ELP sorry [02-May-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They’re too hard to keep feed without your own pipeline [02-May-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: @neke86 how many BMPs do you have? A few thousand OVE is no joke [02-May-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20 [02-May-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yup, that's the problem with the electronics too complex supply chain, you need several bases dedicated to it. [02-May-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Still hoping that there is someone out there that can supply AARs. [02-May-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: used to be thirty but i made space for smelters and some other heavy industry [02-May-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Dang that's a bunch [02-May-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh i found someone for that.. was expensive though and in Moria [02-May-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: In your opinion does it make sense to build other things here a Katoa for example a Farm or just wait until you can build a base elsewhere with Water and extra fertility? [02-May-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Plus an Ag COGC [02-May-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ManCannon** left.* [02-May-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I started with a farm here, eventually specialized my bases. [02-May-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: same [02-May-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Roger that [02-May-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: @Sarantia I see you're on Proxion, you probably have some farms rolling over there right? [02-May-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Katoa is a good generalist planet but you will eventually want to specialize some more. [02-May-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Yup, a few. [02-May-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'm going to DM you real quick [02-May-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Use them to feed my 20 FPs here. [02-May-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: With BMPs you have two choices. 1) Build a big base to support a small number in a vertically integrated chain - ie 4 farms, 1 inc, 1 bmp. or 2) more bmps and you buy inputs but you must pay attention to pricing and be flexible [02-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I chose pathway 1 and free scale [02-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: grew in scale * [02-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I considered The first path. Path two has one challenge for my OVE production and it's the lack of RCO being supplied to the market [02-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hookem0** joined.* [02-May-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: need some RCO? [02-May-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: I can start producing more [02-May-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'm gonna DM you Tyrannuss [02-May-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zent75** left.* [02-May-22 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: Any1 have some NS to spare? [02-May-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UtolWbeanU** left.* [02-May-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrueWyvern** joined.* [02-May-22 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sqooq** joined.* [02-May-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Posh** left.* [02-May-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ozix** joined.* [03-May-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Arclight looking better and better for base 4 or 5 [03-May-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is it warming up out there? [03-May-22 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reivex** left.* [03-May-22 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've just commissioned my first Leviathan-class heavy cruiser, the SHAI-HULUD, which will set to the stars in 22 hours with 2000t/2000m3 carrying capacity [03-May-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: haha nice [03-May-22 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: ive heard people selling ships how does that even work? 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[03-May-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @drmambo might have some lying around you could talk him into selling [03-May-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok ill drop him a dm [03-May-22 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeDahu** left.* [03-May-22 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***angeloeves** left.* [03-May-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brudigem525** joined.* [03-May-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Verazon** left.* [03-May-22 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FLAMES** left.* [03-May-22 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhoisWailam** joined.* [03-May-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Froge** left.* [03-May-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***corvus606** left.* [03-May-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: 300m^3 free on a ship to benten station departing in about 12hrs, 1 day flght time [03-May-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KatraenVenteri** left.* [03-May-22 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peanut_Imperium** left.* [03-May-22 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: @xiq I DMd you [03-May-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***120971944** left.* [03-May-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brudigem515** left.* [03-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sid2784** left.* [03-May-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: all those shipping contracts disappeared fast :] [03-May-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: we need to survive on smth [03-May-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Speaking of, is my stuff form Moria arriving soon? [03-May-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: 6h 35min [03-May-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yassss [03-May-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Smoregold** left.* [03-May-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tuvok** left.* [03-May-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MacCready** left.* [03-May-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: @neke86 I have 144 FOD and a pipeline for more. Post buy orders as you need it for the price you want. I also have 60 SOI and 30 PFE, working to obtain more. [03-May-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks, I will post now! [03-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Posted, I genuinely didn't know what to price SOI/PFE at so DM any required correction and we can fix now with a magic DW [03-May-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Derssl** joined.* [03-May-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belligerence** left.* [03-May-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zorz** joined.* [03-May-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rollhax** left.* [03-May-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anplus** left.* [03-May-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: neke, provision from eth plz [03-May-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: @neke86 [03-May-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Actually, I was considering upgrading from Rations to MED's but looks like the local market is already started [03-May-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kanly** left.* [03-May-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PiSKaczynski** left.* [03-May-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ursag** left.* [03-May-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: provisioned sorry [03-May-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I've got Fermat covered with MED :) [03-May-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We've got a whole pipeline setup [03-May-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome to come compete with us though L:D [03-May-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panda885** left.* [03-May-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Graucoma** joined.* [03-May-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Best4Gamers** joined.* [03-May-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped form Moria Station? Got 400t/400m free [03-May-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***elchapita33** left.* [03-May-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Killerwaffle** left.* [03-May-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: ... I'll think about it. I'm liking my land and expand strategy atm [03-May-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Let me know if I can help at all [03-May-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And thanks for the shipping [03-May-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: @Joe do you make that trip often? [03-May-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AFKFrosTy** left.* [03-May-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm putting 240 TIO on the LM that I bought but just do not have the capacity to smelt [03-May-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***agamemomnom** joined.* [03-May-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Darn I'd have to get some NCC together to place an order on Moria Station. Maybe next time I can squeeze one in [03-May-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: On that note if anyone is coming from BEN back to Katoa and wants to pick up my tiny tiny shipment I posted an ad [03-May-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: If no one grabs it tomorrow evening (US time), I will [03-May-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Sounds good! [03-May-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Is there a way to extend a contract? If so I can make some terms that work for you [03-May-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Since the ad expires 5 days from now, it should be good [03-May-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: If someone else picks it up, its no worries and you'll just get it that much faster :] [03-May-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'm a dummy and it expires in 23h 48m [03-May-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I mis-clicked lol [03-May-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Oh well xD [03-May-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: whoops [03-May-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Flomme** left.* [03-May-22 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ivall** left.* [03-May-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lombardo** left.* [03-May-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OGBerry** left.* [03-May-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***p_rplerain** joined.* [03-May-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RiceBoat** left.* [03-May-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***s1lverhawk** joined.* [03-May-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freeb1rdzz** left.* [03-May-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Helium3** left.* [03-May-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcx** joined.* [03-May-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **agamemomnom**: i have a ship heading to ben, where would i go to pick up your cont? [03-May-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Hey @agamemonom, the contract is for BEN > Katoa, will you be there soon? [03-May-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Also it's on the local market [03-May-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kyra_Dusk** left.* [03-May-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **agamemomnom**: @jay2smooth eta 4 hrs to ben station [03-May-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: LM UV-351a [03-May-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I might be tossing some other ones up there before you arrive. I'll be back in about an hour [03-May-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: They are small orders tho might not be worth your time but def won't take your space [03-May-22 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **agamemomnom**: o7 [03-May-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kujak** joined.* [03-May-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ImAPapaya** left.* [03-May-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **agamemomnom**: oh i dont have a high enough of a rating for the job [03-May-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: half empty ship departing for BEN in about 9hrs, ill ship anything for 50CIS and up if it fits [03-May-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Civolized** joined.* [03-May-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mars6** left.* [03-May-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I can squeeze another small order in with you @xiq [03-May-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: .88mΒ³' [03-May-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Lol [03-May-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hekate_Lech** joined.* [03-May-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WFCrisp** left.* [03-May-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: @jay2smooth sure. earlier i said i was going to depart about now-ish but everyone made their contracts the default 3-days, and ill get one more production output in 8hrs so i'll wait [03-May-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***erkasdragur** left.* [03-May-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buzzkill66** left.* [03-May-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PADOCA** left.* [03-May-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Oh that's no worries buddy [03-May-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: You gotta maximize that profit [03-May-22 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coxatrice** left.* [03-May-22 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***icantthinkofagoodname** joined.* [03-May-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrMoo70** joined.* [03-May-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FumingFrog21218** left.* [03-May-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Palpatinaton** left.* [03-May-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fmjshootersnipe** left.* [03-May-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***L00py** left.* [03-May-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nhbg** left.* [03-May-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrCamels** joined.* [03-May-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IDKWMNI** left.* [03-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera4e3e9f7e8** left.* [03-May-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***troqui111** left.* [03-May-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhyRussia** left.* [03-May-22 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheGrubb** joined.* [03-May-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MattyH** left.* [03-May-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ohsoclose** joined.* [03-May-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shotgunbuddy** joined.* [03-May-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luceo** joined.* [03-May-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainRex** joined.* [03-May-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lamimsarker** left.* [03-May-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2bc50afd1b** left.* [03-May-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Casdeya** joined.* [04-May-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shotgunbuddy**: Don't mind me, just gonna scooch on in here and set up a lil' farm [04-May-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Narrim** left.* [04-May-22 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: howdy [04-May-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Outlook7** left.* [04-May-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deus_Res3133** joined.* [04-May-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Anyone needs to ship anything from benten station to katoa? [04-May-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user84a8aba953** left.* [04-May-22 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere901fb6056** left.* [04-May-22 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We always need more farmers :) [04-May-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c7daa7f20** left.* [04-May-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Still can provide shipping from benten station to katoa :) You save yourself a trip and i make a buck, winwin :D [04-May-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive put a few samall ship ads for ben to kat if you still have space [04-May-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: on kat lm [04-May-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [04-May-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: slided into ur dms [04-May-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***embercoat** left.* [04-May-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf1ef981f5b** left.* [04-May-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wasgood** left.* [04-May-22 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For those posting bids for various gases, I can sell both H and O, but not doing so at discounts to the CX after having shipped it here as well [04-May-22 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: H > 75/u, O > 70/u [04-May-22 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll fill those as I can [04-May-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bomberman4288** joined.* [04-May-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calamababa** left.* [04-May-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kriegsspiel__** left.* [04-May-22 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krayzee** left.* [04-May-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Does anyone here on Katoa produce ABH and ASE? I need 10 and 6 of them. [04-May-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 250t/m3 available on my ship leaving to Benten [04-May-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @neke86 when are you leaving? 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[04-May-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Deimos* [04-May-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: DM me [04-May-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hans1942** left.* [04-May-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah we need simple honest farmers lol [05-May-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Suggestion: If you want more farming done, cut the manufacturing bonus in exchange for something more equal to farmers and tax farm related production less. [05-May-22 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The bonus is 25% or 0, you can’t apportion it out [05-May-22 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StarFax** left.* [05-May-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nicster** deleted this message.* [05-May-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: 240 tuns of space from Benten Station to Katoa if anyone's interested [05-May-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PatrikoSK** joined.* [05-May-22 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Farquaad** left.* [05-May-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorsePerVita** left.* [05-May-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KosteQ** joined.* [05-May-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: little kat - ben shipment placed if anyone is headig that way and has some spare space [05-May-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CervenoBAF** joined.* [05-May-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reggie28** joined.* [05-May-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user32f51bb929** left.* [05-May-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user027d47654a** left.* [05-May-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: People can vote for the pioneer COGC. Not as juicey as a production COGC, but might help a lot more people a little instead of a smaller number a lot [05-May-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: But, there's also a reason manufacturing keeps winning. Perhaps with this new influx we may see a shift? [05-May-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive givne the pioneers a vote this time round, see what happens [05-May-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: What's it gonna cost to get you to change that vote xD [05-May-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: back to manufacturing? [05-May-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hmm lol [05-May-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im temporarily low on HCP so could be tempted with a gift [05-May-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: All those carbon inputs are getting so scarce! [05-May-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: ON the other side who's gonna be making some RCO and HCP if we go pioneer? [05-May-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah my 16 INC are burnign through everything haha [05-May-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: JEEEEZ that's a bunch! [05-May-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep lol [05-May-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: what buildings come under "mqanufacturing"? [05-May-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Yeah I def don't have enough HCP to sway you haha [05-May-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: BMP, Textile Manu, 3D Printer, Weaving Plant, Component assembly to name most [05-May-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: PP1? [05-May-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Then a bunch of spacecraft prefabs [05-May-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Haha no, that's construction [05-May-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh yes [05-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive been voting Manufacutring al lthis time and i dont tihnk i hav eanything benefitting :-S [05-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have COL, FP, HYP, INC. PP1 [05-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Karr where meh prefabs at [05-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: ;) [05-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: what you need? [05-May-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I need another 3 days, I just bought more inputs this morning [05-May-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Maybe 1 day. I've been trying to supply OVE to the pioneers. There's been a shortage [05-May-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i usually have some BBH, BDE and BSE on KAT spare os just drop me a dm when you need any and i can see whati have to hand [05-May-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i produce BBh and BSE on ementior, and my AGR production is on Proxion [05-May-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: to feed my INCs [05-May-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We all benefit from Manufacturing when I dump thousands of units of consumables into the bid instead of holding off for more profit [05-May-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Yesss, one of us, one of us [05-May-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ;) [05-May-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We've had PIO in the past, it’s underwhelming. The 10% benefit is negligible and spread thin, yielding little meaningful benefit [05-May-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Especially compared to nearby farming worlds, or high volume extraction planets [05-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Generally, the 25% boost to anything is a better option... Construction on Gibson, Agriculture on Nemesis, Food on Milliways and KW-602c, Resources on Etherwind. [05-May-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***1drew** left.* [05-May-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Agriculture on Proxion! [05-May-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Working on metallurgy on KW-689a. When that's complete (or getting close), we should discuss KW-358b going back to RE... [05-May-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I moved that conversation over to Geidi Prime for now [05-May-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DenisFan106** left.* [05-May-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CookyMellow** joined.* [05-May-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OnyxFinger** joined.* [05-May-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sageious** joined.* [05-May-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Just wanted to say hello to everyone. Newbie here. [05-May-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ahoy and welcome [05-May-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Welcome! [05-May-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Thanks! [05-May-22 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: What buildings are you running? [05-May-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: me? [05-May-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: welcome! [05-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Yea you @Sageious [05-May-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Is anyone available to post a small DW sell order on LM? I had someone liquidate in the middle of one [05-May-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: ~15 should be fine [05-May-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: just posted a DW ad for you. 15 @ 62 each based on current bid at Benten CX [05-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: thanks @Pav! [05-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Manufacturer [05-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: @bitrunnr, no problem, glad to help [05-May-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: I need 40 MCG anyone got a good deal on them? [05-May-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: oops sorry I need 80 [05-May-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MythosOfs** left.* [05-May-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: @Sageious i can sell you them if you haven't bought them already? [05-May-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: btw, do you have access to the local market? (you need to have/have had a PRO-license to access local market) [05-May-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Sorry I just realized I did not have access to that so I will be buying through the exchange [05-May-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: No problem :) [05-May-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taii_** left.* [05-May-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChaoticChappie** left.* [05-May-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Is there a way to cxl an order as a trial player? [05-May-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: To place an order on the commodity exchange? Yes, you just need to have it at the station either via your ship or a warehouse unit at the station [05-May-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: No I meant cancel the order but never mind [05-May-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pudgy** joined.* [05-May-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm browsing different planets and it seems that our production fees are relatively high- why? [05-May-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spunkyghost**: to pay for all the production benefits we have probably :) [05-May-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: wow some of our market value is crazy. [05-May-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi guys, hows it going? [05-May-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Postet two tiny little shipping ads if anyone is interested. Perfect for filling up the last bits of space in a ship [05-May-22 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sweater** joined.* [05-May-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KosteQ** left.* [05-May-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I raised the taxes to fund POPI and upgrades to the infrastructure. Currently even with the raised taxes we run a deficit, a bill that I cover, of 50,000-100,000 per week. [05-May-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Other planets are lower but things are handled by donations or just partial upkeep [05-May-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or large corporations bank roll the upkeep [05-May-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I blend the three, erring on the side of people contributing via tax, which is what it’s for. [05-May-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Gubment [05-May-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Once I become a little more financially stable I'd be happy to help out [05-May-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shotgunbuddy**: I think I've got about a week before I've got enough water and rations stockpiled to take a trip to the CX to sell and buy more overalls and maybe some coffee. [05-May-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @neke86 fair enough, thanks. what about scientists though? with 1000 fee it looks like they're not wanted here- why? [05-May-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: not that I'll have scientists anytime soon; just curious [05-May-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B136** joined.* [05-May-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dasTier** joined.* [05-May-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceManowar** left.* [05-May-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azy666** joined.* [05-May-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @Gilith you also pay taxes for the pops you could employ so for my SPF i pay about 320 CIS/day even though im not actualy employing scientists [05-May-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CosmicDisco** joined.* [05-May-22 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sweater** left.* [05-May-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeckClimber** joined.* [05-May-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leadcask**: Meant to build collector, built extractor. πŸ™„πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ [05-May-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leadcask**: Ah I can reclaim it all no loss, thank goodness [05-May-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Phew [05-May-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I just posted some cheap fuel orders in the LM. [05-May-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AcornWasTaken** left.* [05-May-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vouke** left.* [05-May-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dzambon** joined.* [05-May-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pav**: Thanks @BlueHeeler [05-May-22 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dzambon** left.* [05-May-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NearNagol** left.* [05-May-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***F0xx** left.* [05-May-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QIWUJE** joined.* [05-May-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kmod** joined.* [05-May-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CheeseVehicle** left.* [05-May-22 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaddyDarkXD_TTV** joined.* [05-May-22 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: taxes are not to discourage, they’re to support them. very expensive upkeep is required to support the comfort, culture etc. the tax is truly negligible even at these levels [05-May-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for perspective you can check [05-May-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: each time you produce something it tells you the fees being collected [05-May-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: compare that number to the cost of the inputs and the consumables and the value of the output and it’s a rounding error [05-May-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the charge for me to make 50 MCG is 5 CIS.. [05-May-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a tax rate of about 0.3-0.5% [05-May-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: How does the population work neke? Do we need more amenities on the planet to attract new workers? Are they taken from other planets? [05-May-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GUS_BOY44** joined.* [05-May-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG.CI1 [05-May-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: REP.CI1 [05-May-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fresh deliveries [05-May-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll explain population when i’m not on a mobile hahaha [06-May-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deepledi** joined.* [06-May-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***trevor.gillen** left.* [06-May-22 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Anybody at 282 got some H for an LM order? Ship standing by [06-May-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kairi** left.* [06-May-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bokuto** left.* [06-May-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KosteQ** joined.* [06-May-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: buy ads on their LM get filled pretty quickly [06-May-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tlar** joined.* [06-May-22 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HardNFast241** joined.* [06-May-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ~4,000 MCG here on Katoa that I'm willing to sell for 20/u [06-May-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 18/u if you take the lot [06-May-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lmk in dms [06-May-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***acerbic** joined.* [06-May-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HardNFast241** left.* [06-May-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: 2 beautiful empty ships on Kaota ready to make a shipping to the Benten Station [06-May-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: if anyone is interested slide into my dms [06-May-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Actually arclight or moria is ok too [06-May-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How much for a full cargo to Moria [06-May-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sanitylost** left.* [06-May-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thebastian82** joined.* [06-May-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Lost 400 FF to a liquidation ;_; [06-May-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Whew 10 more mins to Benten [06-May-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I can see a twinkle in the sky. Must be your ship coming in :] [06-May-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UltimeCookie** left.* [06-May-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: lol [06-May-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: I need to figure this game out I am coming back with some good that can last me a few days but I think I will be in the red before I even get a chance to get out of the red. [06-May-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Keeping up with the basic consumables can be tough at first [06-May-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: So if I am to understand this I will have to ship my goods to Benten so they can be picked up by the person who bought the product correct? [06-May-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I use the LM for DW/RAT often [06-May-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Yeah, the delivery of good has to be done at the station/planet where the buyer wants them [06-May-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: No chance of building another exchange perhaps? [06-May-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I think creating a new CX is a considerable effort [06-May-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: (if that's what you mean) [06-May-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Well I mean yeah why not not every planet should have 1 cx it would make sense if we have multiple where we can supply them at least it would help to reduce travel cost to each other. [06-May-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: ugh I have to send my other ship i forgot some materials. [06-May-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm about to send a ship from BEN -> Katoa now if you need me to deliver something [06-May-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: its flying back mostly empty [06-May-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Oh that would be great actually [06-May-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Can I do that as a trial player [06-May-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: hmm [06-May-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: It is also telling me I cannot make the purchase on it. I have already sent my 2nd ship there already should be there in 4 hours. [06-May-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Bah no, not a fan of that limitation on trial: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/pro-license/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/pro-license/ PRO License :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [06-May-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Me neither. [06-May-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: Might have to start back over I made too many mistakes [06-May-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I did that before hehe [06-May-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sageious**: I didn't build my resources building first and I ended up hurting myself. [06-May-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: How long does it take for your company to get rated? [06-May-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @Joekingdom just takes some time https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/#how-do-i-improve-my-company-rating {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/ FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [06-May-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: (And making sure you play some in that time) [06-May-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HardNFast241** left.* [06-May-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Debby** joined.* [06-May-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nommer_2l** left.* [06-May-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TamSchnow265** left.* [06-May-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToothlessCharizard** left.* [06-May-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotHello66** left.* [06-May-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The Manufacturing COGC is under threat and not just from new players, I’m seeing several established names leading the voting. If you’re active and benefit directly or indirectly from Manufacturing I highly suggest voting - I’m not keen on a return to the general mediocrity of Pioneering bonuses. [06-May-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The new COGC upkeep phase is open, I will source the majority of it - if you wish to contribute please reach out to [06-May-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: me to organise rather than contributing as hoc [06-May-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @bitrunnr thanks [06-May-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: looks to be a close vote. you know how many pro's on Katoa? [06-May-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: (Sorry already contributed a very small amount to upkeep adhoc) [06-May-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not sure how many pro accounts around [06-May-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: 1 ship with 500t cargo space available for long haul. 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Might be able to snag a deal [06-May-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sylsaint** joined.* [06-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rashi** joined.* [06-May-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEnglishSlav** joined.* [06-May-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fifthty2** joined.* [06-May-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lobsteroidz** joined.* [06-May-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: if anyone needs any thing hauled from Umbra to Katoa post an order. I will be arriving there in 8hrs [06-May-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zizz** joined.* [06-May-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aldricjoe** left.* [06-May-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can do bulk on Umbra but the price isn’t great, it’s easy to secure it cheap from CB-282d directly though @Chaldon [06-May-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kwyxl** left.* [06-May-22 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maneggsman** joined.* [06-May-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stablerhombus3** left.* [06-May-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG.CI1 stocked. 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Have 45t space open for cargo transport. Should be a 30 hour delivery. 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I dont really want to post in global [07-May-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: yeah system chat could work too,,, although then i'd be idling in 4 channels [07-May-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it would also be nice to have just one chat window, with tabs for channels, instead of separate win for each chat [07-May-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: that too would be nice [07-May-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: or atleast the abillity to group them [07-May-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***General47** left.* [07-May-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: and if the coms tab didnt blink for every message in a public group chat, but only if you are @pinged [07-May-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: so many QoL wishes [07-May-22 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OptExyz** left.* [07-May-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***superxz** left.* [07-May-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Click the "mute" link in the upper left corner of public group chats... [07-May-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Also, Unified Faction Operations (Discord) link for shipping (and more), if you haven't seen it yet: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP [07-May-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blundell2007** left.* [07-May-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***absolutehorizon** left.* [07-May-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shipping_Surveyor** left.* [07-May-22 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pyr** joined.* [07-May-22 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TsunamiEX** joined.* [07-May-22 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I dropped chat and took up discord [07-May-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you can also create a new screen with comm as you like [07-May-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OVE.CI1 and PWO.CI1 stocked. 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[08-May-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: real cheap, real fast :) [08-May-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: offer stands for the way back (400t) DM me if interested [08-May-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AshesOfThem** joined.* [08-May-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heldan97** joined.* [08-May-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaguar787** joined.* [08-May-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone in the market for COT, before I have it shipped off? [08-May-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gallium101** left.* [08-May-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Owengineer** left.* [08-May-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cuisinart8** joined.* [08-May-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***changooman** joined.* [08-May-22 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fuggenoob** left.* [08-May-22 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Griffon** left.* [08-May-22 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [08-May-22 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: send me pm with details? [08-May-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: flying a ship from benten to katoa (~24hrs) with 190m3/240t space. will take any ship offer over 100 CIS that fits. will obv favour higher offers if there's a bunch when i'm accepting, but mostly first-come-first-served. [08-May-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: *benten +station to katoa [08-May-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Traxxas** left.* [08-May-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANONYM0US** left.* [08-May-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @neke Sorry I posted an ad on the LM and it got picked up [08-May-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsIdeal** joined.* [08-May-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Haha I just saw that it was you that picked it up [08-May-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RubelliteFae** joined.* [08-May-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***legomaniac.em** left.* [08-May-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jerry435** left.* [08-May-22 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lilHedge** left.* [08-May-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Proxoria** joined.* [08-May-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Anyone want iron before I ship it out? [08-May-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: my ship's departing now-ish [09-May-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BishopHim** left.* [09-May-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MageWarren** left.* [09-May-22 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sergo** left.* [09-May-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What price for the iron? [09-May-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it's a pain to ship [09-May-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and where on earth are you getting ore from [09-May-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: are you smelting it here? [09-May-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So many questions [09-May-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Acesupreme** joined.* [09-May-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Indeed [09-May-22 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bomberman4288** left.* [09-May-22 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jacknps** left.* [09-May-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tymek** left.* [09-May-22 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nekolas** left.* [09-May-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***felle29pelle** left.* [09-May-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orin_Fortissimo** joined.* [09-May-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Guys, can we dial back the absurdly priced LM orders... they're a waste of space. At least try and make them close to the CX rates.. [09-May-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: I have contributed most of what's needed for the L3 Warehouse, I'm just short ~38 BDE. If anyone has them and would like to finish the warehouse off I can offer 700/u for BDE so it's not a total donation :) [09-May-22 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how quickly do you need them [09-May-22 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i can probably fill it tomorrow [09-May-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well it's not "urgent" :) [09-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***felle29pelle** joined.* [09-May-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koffienoff** left.* [09-May-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i contributed 31 BDE. that was my stock at katoa. [09-May-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i create a golden rat on the lm [09-May-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The WAR is now L4 :) Thank you [09-May-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Each player, for 200 cis / wk, can now store up to an extra 1,000tm3. Not as effective as your own [09-May-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not as effective as your own STO but a flexible way to increase space over the initial base capacity [09-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: cool! thanks gov [09-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Whats next GOV for public improvements? [09-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not much until we figure out the real balance of population after the wave of new players settles diwn [09-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: we're pretty good for infra at the moment, when I came onboard nearly ~1m went into getting things setup [09-May-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and like I've said before, tax doesnt actually cover upkeep [09-May-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so infra upgrades come from donations [09-May-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Did you calculate how much you would have to raise taxes to have these things covered? [09-May-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I didn’t, but I’m covering it easily enough myself, I think it would be another 25-40% [09-May-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Tax has only gone up from 224-240 to 265 with all the new players [09-May-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Yeah i guess its not a bad system, that the older richer players play more :-). [09-May-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But we’re over a month ahead of POPI so it’s not a problem ;) I can let it run for a fortnight to recoup some cash [09-May-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And I buy things off locals [09-May-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: seems to work, so no need to change :-) [09-May-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amogus_sus** joined.* [09-May-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Why are we charging 105 cis/unit for DW on the LM? We don't need to price gauge our own planet >.< [09-May-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I asked for that to stop, waste of time [09-May-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Yeah, i stopped looking at LM's on planets since most people uses the CX price they're withing. [09-May-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fairly priced buys will get filled quicky [09-May-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: usually [09-May-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: possibly, i'm only able to see what's there at the time i'm looking so yeah, i'm not watching stuff 24/7 [09-May-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: True, I haven't been able to make up my mind of which way to think of it. Like, who's getting the convenience benefit, buyer or sell, or both. [09-May-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I usually price around bid as well. [09-May-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Totally agree [09-May-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: We literally can't enforce a price so let them have at it :D [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Maybe new players don't realize that the CX pricing is also taking into account the shipping of products? The LM should be cheaper always because there is no fuel cost involved [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for the buyer also [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but yes [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I sell things cheaper here than the CX [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or try anyway [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Same [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it's not just fuel- saves lots of time for both sides [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Also very true [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ivanishappy** joined.* [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: you can make the argument that the goods should be more expensive because they are available quicker to the buyer. Many sellers don't care if it takes 1 hour or 5 days for their goods to sell (at least at a certain size). But I generally agree that LM ads should be priced around the bid price on the CX. [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if it sells, then the price is not too high. new players are still experimenting with LM- let them, it's the only way to learn. e.g even if the 10 COF offer is overpriced, it's still more affordable for new player than 100 COF at much better price [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: (and no, it's not my offer :) [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lokitroy** joined.* [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it would be nice to have some filters and sorting options for LM ads though [09-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: and 1 unit prices calculated too, for lazy people like me [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: HEY my 10 COF prices are fair GIlith (if you were referrinf to mine lol) [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: like I said, if it sells then the price is fine :) though it's cheaper on CI1 [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: thanks for the tip @Nicster, I'll try it out [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah its cool, if people gonna moan then prob best ot just ship to CXL and not sell on LM [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syllns** joined.* [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OfficialPlanet** joined.* [09-May-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: New players often don't have the cash to buy mid/large amounts so a smaller lot at a slight elevated price I can understand, especially is the good is not a stable price at the CXL. I try to sell local near the offer rates at the CXL buy even I would buy small amounts overpriced if I was desperate and could not afford lg order. [09-May-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: I don't sell much on the LMs, but when I do, I usually do something like: x10-20 units @ something slightly below CX Ask, x40-60 units @ 5-10% discount, x80-120 units @ 15-20% discount. It gives a discount for larger quantities while also giving a slight discount from CX prices for smaller/newer folks. [09-May-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: The larger orders are usually snapped up by older players fairly quickly. Sometimes the smaller ads sit there, sometimes they're picked up. 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[09-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: it's a small bundle... you okay with that? [09-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: 9.6t [09-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: no problem, say a flat 100? [09-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: k [09-May-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rag1** left.* [09-May-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vibes** joined.* [09-May-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrispiusBaconus** joined.* [09-May-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: ETA 12hours Antares Station and going back. 390t of space free for shipping. [10-May-22 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: @sir_gideon what's ur rate? 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[10-May-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: lol [10-May-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Wish someone told me that when I first started, spent way too many weeks making my own h2o when it was so cheap to buy [10-May-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Triorter** joined.* [10-May-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: plenty of water coming in from EW [10-May-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wordrc** left.* [10-May-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: There was a time when water was expensive as gold... or OVE and PWO [10-May-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In the bad old days [10-May-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And occasionally every now and then some minor drought conditions [10-May-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG now up to 4,500 units, no bids received. 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[11-May-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Will be going from Moria station to Benten station soon. The amount of free space I can provide depends on how much you are willing to pay :) (I can make stops in nearby systems etc.) [11-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FredyBobJoe** left.* [11-May-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TTB** joined.* [11-May-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @Nicster check priv [11-May-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Math009w** joined.* [11-May-22 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Possible trading opportunity for someone, I've listed 2 x 40 MFK.CI1 @ 150u on the LM, which is a discount to most traded CXs [11-May-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I also still haven't received any bids at all on cheap MCG.CI1 does nobody on this planet want to build a building? [11-May-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3,000 units sitting here in inventory just being fat and heavy [11-May-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: can you list smaller batch of MFK? I'd take 20, but 40 is too much for me [11-May-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No sorry, paying to delist them all isn’t worth it [11-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you’ve got several days to pay [11-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK, I'll take it [11-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragin** joined.* [11-May-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone wanna take a full shipment from Kat to Ben? [11-May-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure thing [11-May-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: am watching the LM [11-May-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: what is fair rate? [11-May-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im still learnign shipping contracts [11-May-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2.5 [11-May-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pay more and ill burn more fuekl [11-May-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ad is up, let me kow if i did it correct [11-May-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure did [11-May-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: perfect thanks [11-May-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: so wil lbe there in an hour right................................hehehehehe [11-May-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Arrives T+12h16m [11-May-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: perfect ty [11-May-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Graucoma** left.* [11-May-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Best4Gamers** left.* [11-May-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aspect102** joined.* [11-May-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrypticAssault** left.* [11-May-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WalkeR2489** joined.* [11-May-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeadJaneDoe** left.* [11-May-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HC7** joined.* [11-May-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ozix** left.* [11-May-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banan** joined.* [11-May-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***p_rplerain** left.* [11-May-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcx** left.* [11-May-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hekate_Lech** left.* [11-May-22 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***timothy.cauwe** left.* [11-May-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***icantthinkofagoodname** left.* [11-May-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dokarin** joined.* [11-May-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ruffle** joined.* [11-May-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enovo** joined.* [11-May-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorvoJavidan** joined.* [11-May-22 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ojayjuice** joined.* [11-May-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luceo** left.* [11-May-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone need fuel at Katoa? Will sell up to 200FF @ 11.85 each or 500 SF @ 8.75 each. [11-May-22 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Etzan** left.* [11-May-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluyxx** left.* [11-May-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On the LM here FF usually trades 9-10 and SF 6-8 [11-May-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can certainly post though, someone might grab it [12-May-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deus_Res3133** left.* [12-May-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Felon_Tusk** joined.* [12-May-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: T+6h to Moria, 100t of free space. DM if interested. apx. 1 day travel. [12-May-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kujak** left.* [12-May-22 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: REP.CI1 restocked at a lower price. [12-May-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And some lucrative shipping ads placed for KAT > BEN [12-May-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lolmamgamefr** left.* [12-May-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IkkiShaka** joined.* [12-May-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put a shipload of H.CI1 on the UMBRA LM for 50/u, the MM price, if you want bulk or want to flip it trading: LMA UV-351c/11435 [12-May-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I'm looking for a very small GRN buy order to be filled. Any takers? [12-May-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone here be interested in 150 units of FEO.CI1 @ 60/u delivered here to Katoa. [12-May-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Posted to the LM with a long payment period in case any newer players wish to utilise it [12-May-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: is anyone actually smelting FEO here? seems like there are better places for it, and this stuff is heavy... [12-May-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes here is not a great spot for it [12-May-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But if there is someone doing it, my offer is attractive :) [12-May-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Going from Katoa to Benten in an hour, DM me if anyone is interested in shippment [12-May-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: 345 tons of space [12-May-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HankySnow** left.* [12-May-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posting [12-May-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: think I came close to filling the 345t for 1,650 CIS [12-May-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: <3 [12-May-22 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: 20 more tons, lift off in 30 minutes :) [12-May-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jake4** joined.* [12-May-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: A new election is already upon us and I hope I can count on your votes for Governor again :) I’m always open to debate changes to Program (Currently ENG migration) and POPI (Stable and cruising with the population surge) and COGC (Currently staunchly Manufacturing). [12-May-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: You have my vote [12-May-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Axblade** joined.* [12-May-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you! [12-May-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you are doing a great job i hope i can do the same on Milliways :) [12-May-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you have my vote @neke86 [12-May-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many thanks! 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[12-May-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: I have any of them, but would prefer to part with HCP [12-May-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: cool [12-May-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Coming in clutch [12-May-22 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Niatroh** left.* [13-May-22 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhoulishWonder** joined.* [13-May-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlyssaJo** joined.* [13-May-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yuu** joined.* [13-May-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sleevesies** joined.* [13-May-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***andreotty** joined.* [13-May-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reggie28** left.* [13-May-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hauffmann.Koch** joined.* [13-May-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HolyShitMage** joined.* [13-May-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Ship going from BEN->Katoa in a few hours. There's 464m/458t free [13-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Another ship going from Umbra->Katoa in a few hours. There's 449m/495t free [13-May-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted one for 250 cis kat>ben [13-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: (If that was for me, wrong direction) [13-May-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It was, whoops [13-May-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll leave it there [13-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: np! [13-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For you I have something else then [13-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _rummages around_ [13-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ta daa! [13-May-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: woot [13-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: https://i.imgur.com/QeZdIv5.jpg {Embed} https://imgur.com/QeZdIv5 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CVYUDAQh8Cobk72AUZOjOoEIoEpQacrDkjz4PE1ZGLY/https/i.imgur.com/QeZdIv5.jpg [13-May-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Literally me 80% of the time I'm on here [13-May-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: still smilin' though [13-May-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OnyxFinger** left.* [13-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: ship full and leaving the station [13-May-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i also have something for umbra -> kat [13-May-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @Nicster cool my ship is still there. Post up the ad and i'll grab it [13-May-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thx! [13-May-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: πŸ‘ [13-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilikered** joined.* [13-May-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zekki** joined.* [13-May-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hauffmann.Koch** left.* [13-May-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fl4v14n** left.* [13-May-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilikered** left.* [13-May-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Last call for shipments from Umbra -> Katoa [13-May-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amageki** joined.* [13-May-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilikered** joined.* [13-May-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Practically Empty ship going to Etherwind. 450 available [13-May-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: I'll give an hour for a LM order to populate [13-May-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chaldon** deleted this message.* [13-May-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chaldon** deleted this message.* [13-May-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***O_JAVEL** left.* [13-May-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svekolochka** joined.* [13-May-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ADH** joined.* [13-May-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Do people actually buy RAT at 105/u? I keep seeing the ads. [13-May-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I was just thinking the exact same thing!!!! [13-May-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I think that buying off the cx and paying for shipping would be less expensive per unit [13-May-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: would take longer to get though [13-May-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Maybe there are people that need that emergency RAT and don't have the money for a larger order maybe... [13-May-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you mess up so bad you’re paying 105, you kind of earned it [13-May-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That said, I left very expensive BTA on some LMs for a while and they always get bought [13-May-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you price them normally someone will buy them. but if you make them very expensive they will only be bought in an emergency, which means you can essentially provide a safety buffer of those key item [13-May-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how many times do you see someone (or, me) asking for 1-2 BTA, or 10 MCG haha [13-May-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But rarely with RAT [13-May-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B136** left.* [13-May-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***x.ray** left.* [13-May-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowBrook** joined.* [13-May-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azy666** left.* [13-May-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CosmicDisco** left.* [13-May-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kik4s** joined.* [13-May-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeckClimber** left.* [13-May-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kmod** left.* [13-May-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gnevich** joined.* [13-May-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMurderUnicorn** left.* [13-May-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1eab4c4635** left.* [13-May-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GUS_BOY44** left.* [13-May-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainRex** left.* [14-May-22 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deepledi** left.* [14-May-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrocodileJim** joined.* [14-May-22 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dasTier** left.* [14-May-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jarne_Ghost** joined.* [14-May-22 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***acerbic** left.* [14-May-22 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: quick easy shiping contract to umbra up [14-May-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i dont need those expensive RATs but wil lbuy to help out new player [14-May-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: How long does it take Katoa to circle the sun? [14-May-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: All Katoans, it is that time again and while I am technically presuming a little on the outcome of the current election, I would like to take this opportunity to ask you contact me and tell me a little bit about what you do on Katoa, suggestions you have for taxation, programs, or POPI, and your thoughts on COGC and Katoan trade in general. Traditionally very few people have bothered reaching out to me, and so I largely set the tax, POPI and Program policy β€œby feel” but if you’re active enough to vote for me you should feel comfortable enough reaching out to me! These discussions may lead to trade deals, tenders, or finding new business partners. - All regards, Neke, Governor Presumpt. Katoa Chapter CHOAM. [14-May-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: couyld you encourage people to sell me super cheap agri products for my INCs? hehehehe [14-May-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: KCC supports your continued governance [14-May-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well if some farmers come forward the idea would be to help them line up with long term buyers. maybe not cheap, but at a sustainable price, neither party needing to ship etc [14-May-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep, i would be happy to support a farmer with prefabs in return for some secured supply [14-May-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: infact i may open the Katoa Prefab Bank lol [14-May-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: maybe ran as some sort of planetary company development fund [14-May-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone need MCG? I need a little spare cash [14-May-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how many and how much? [14-May-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I've got 300, 21.50/u [14-May-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Coming from moria to benten, 350 free tuns of space, ony offers? [14-May-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill take all 300 @20 if interested [14-May-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'd take that deal if you post the buy order [14-May-22 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok one sec [14-May-22 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: up [14-May-22 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Thanks! [14-May-22 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np [14-May-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’d be happy to support a building development program: I’ve got plenty of capacity to supply the MCG, and I can bring in FE and LST (if we’re organized in advance). [14-May-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: I put some RAT and RCOs on LM so take a look if you are interested :) [14-May-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Walrus-42** joined.* [14-May-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: got some FE up on on the LM [14-May-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Woah is RCO really going for over 600?? [14-May-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I took the iron thanks [14-May-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: lol [14-May-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve got a Moria > Katoa shipping contract up too [14-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InsanityGamer** joined.* [14-May-22 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ohsoclose** left.* [14-May-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Everlongg** joined.* [14-May-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: going from station to katoa in 20 min [14-May-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: 210t free [14-May-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: for a cheap price :) [14-May-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: 2cis/t [14-May-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aedric** joined.* [14-May-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Omuluc** joined.* [14-May-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VLEEQUE** joined.* [14-May-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamiblox** left.* [14-May-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***regam** joined.* [14-May-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8b06fcadc3** left.* [14-May-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: balancing goof again... anyone got spare HCP? paying CX ask price on the LM [14-May-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: anyone need anything shipped ->Umbra [14-May-22 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MisterMcStar** joined.* [14-May-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SageKhandr** joined.* [14-May-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paul-Krakovsky** joined.* [14-May-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShockerWolf191** joined.* [14-May-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sylsaint** left.* [14-May-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***disruptek** joined.* [14-May-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: if anyone has HCP or some other INC input spare, but wants a better price to part with it, DM me [14-May-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rashi** left.* [14-May-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cro_Low** joined.* [14-May-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fifthty2** left.* [14-May-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEnglishSlav** left.* [14-May-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Cro_Low**: I took the last available plot I guess [14-May-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lobsteroidz** left.* [14-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: starter planets have infinite plots for starter players (called ghost plots), but existing players can't move here [14-May-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Cro_Low**: i see [14-May-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zizz** left.* [14-May-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Typerion** joined.* [14-May-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***madmax64** joined.* [15-May-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I'm trying to get a second base as fast as I can before all the good planet plots are gone [15-May-22 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrostiitheCrow** joined.* [15-May-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: If someone could fulfill my DW order it would be appreciated. [15-May-22 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I've only got 50 on hand [15-May-22 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: if anyone has HCP or some other INC input spare, but wants a better price to part with it, DM me [15-May-22 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I got them :) [15-May-22 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i have a ad up buying some HCP at the CX ask price, or I can change it if you'd rather a different price [15-May-22 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have some HCP on the CX but it’s left overs from Etherwind, I don’t have any here sorry [15-May-22 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ah ok. trying to avoid the time of getting it from the CX. i've got 3 incinerators doing nothing, full of pioneers roasting mashrmallows [15-May-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That’s not great but it’s not a disaster, are they your only buildings? [15-May-22 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If they are your only buildings you could consider hiring a warehouse for 100/wk and moving all your consumables there. Workforce stops functioning but they can’t eat everything [15-May-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: I got the order. [15-May-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rarkasha** left.* [15-May-22 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: New dump of MCG.CI1 [15-May-22 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: thanks sarantia. no neke86, not my only buildings. i'd wondered what the side effects of starving out a whole base would be... not many times that would be useful though [15-May-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaSa2** joined.* [15-May-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belladonna** joined.* [15-May-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cleops** joined.* [15-May-22 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gizzix** joined.* [15-May-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DerogatoryNameForAfricans** joined.* [15-May-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have 100 ALO on KAT if anyone interested in buying? dm me and we can work out a price [15-May-22 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedMars** joined.* [15-May-22 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bazoomanu** joined.* [15-May-22 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schb3rg** joined.* [15-May-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaltenstein23** joined.* [15-May-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MikadoKyb** joined.* [15-May-22 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Threapster** joined.* [15-May-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jongleur** joined.* [15-May-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yrg** joined.* [15-May-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayKaySpace** joined.* [15-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreier234** joined.* [15-May-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Barium_** joined.* [15-May-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6e66228a6d** left.* [15-May-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JasonMoonshadow** joined.* [15-May-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QIWUJE** left.* [15-May-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Croceyon** left.* [15-May-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yrg** left.* [15-May-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DirtyScoundrel** joined.* [15-May-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zerggodmaster** joined.* [15-May-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krataar** joined.* [15-May-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Munku** joined.* [15-May-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if anyone actually smelts that ALO, I'd be interested in buying some AL [15-May-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I don't smelt it, but I get it fairly cheap [15-May-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I ship about ~300-600 a week, but I can increase that value if need be [15-May-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, at the moment I can afford 15, 20 maybe [15-May-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: but having small batches on LM would be useful [15-May-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I can split it [15-May-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: then please do, I will definitely be buying some regularly [15-May-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I mean AL, not the ore [15-May-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: ah [15-May-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: kk [15-May-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: welp, it's split regardless haha [15-May-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eltasil** joined.* [15-May-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordMcMoney** joined.* [15-May-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PeanutPal65** left.* [15-May-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***darklight2367** joined.* [15-May-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vengos** joined.* [15-May-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***12344man** joined.* [15-May-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maximusham** joined.* [15-May-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WaffenSS88** joined.* [15-May-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ragfijn** left.* [15-May-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8766748f5e** left.* [15-May-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSnattleRake** joined.* [15-May-22 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: anyone need anything brought to BEN? [15-May-22 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I could find something surely [15-May-22 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Not unless you are planning to leave tomorrow lol [15-May-22 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: i got some time. Need to head to gibson after that [15-May-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I've got a small shipment, and a slightly larger one what's it cost to get to BEN these days? [15-May-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Eh I have 27 hrs before I'll have anything ready, no sense waiting for me [15-May-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Was about 1300 in fuel by my last trip [15-May-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'll put up a few LM shipping orders now [15-May-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Ty @Klampk [15-May-22 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tylerXMD** joined.* [15-May-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: welcome [15-May-22 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***panterina103** left.* [15-May-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crispy_bacon609** joined.* [15-May-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DirtyScoundrel** left.* [15-May-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kupiter_K** joined.* [15-May-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsAshe** joined.* [15-May-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pyr** left.* [15-May-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TsunamiEX** left.* [15-May-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Littlepants** left.* [15-May-22 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***winterjam010** joined.* [16-May-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PotatoHam** joined.* [16-May-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MSN800** joined.* [16-May-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dr.pug.phd** left.* [16-May-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vantage** joined.* [16-May-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joseph0706** joined.* [16-May-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1237eed0f5** left.* [16-May-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sline** joined.* [16-May-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to umbra? I've got 300t/350m free for 1800 cis, ship leaves in about 8 hrs [16-May-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Offer is negotiable, that should go without saying [16-May-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Megadeath** joined.* [16-May-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: A lot of people offering nearly full cargo holds implies flying with very small shipments - make sure you’re crunching the costs of flying and comparing them to posting your own shipping :) [16-May-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user92729744cd** left.* [16-May-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IsNich** joined.* [16-May-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: T+6h to Moria, almost all available cargo [16-May-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zypherz** joined.* [16-May-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jazzy42** joined.* [16-May-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: full load contract to ben posted [16-May-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That was quick! [16-May-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prof.Zwerg** joined.* [16-May-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ? [16-May-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: relisted as i priced it a little cheap i think [16-May-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh right, thought someone had snapped it up [16-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Reposting this: [16-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: All Katoans, it is that time again and while I am technically presuming a little on the outcome of the current election, I would like to take this opportunity to ask you contact me and tell me a little bit about what you do on Katoa, suggestions you have for taxation, programs, or POPI, and your thoughts on COGC and Katoan trade in general. Traditionally very few people have bothered reaching out to me, and so I largely set the tax, POPI and Program policy β€œby feel” but if you’re active enough to vote for me you should feel comfortable enough reaching out to me! These discussions may lead to trade deals, tenders, or finding new business partners. - All regards, Neke, Governor Presumpt. Katoa Chapter CHOAM. [16-May-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flip26** joined.* [16-May-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VulcanB2Xh558** joined.* [16-May-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moffee** joined.* [16-May-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEvilBanana** joined.* [16-May-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @neke86 i belive you prety much know my base layout and im fine with your tax and COGC policies as long as i have all the workers i need im happy and if you ever need help with pop/COGC upkeep feal welcome to reach out :) [16-May-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: maybe consider switching COGC to pioneers? while 25% manufacturing bonus is nice, more people would benefit from 10% pioneers output, especially new players [16-May-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks Knarf and yes, absolutely! For anyone reading also feel free to reach me in PM - no need to divulge specifics here in main chat of course [16-May-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There is a cadre for the Pioneer bonus, it;'s actually where Katoa started @Gilith [16-May-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But 10% bonus across the board is essentially lost immediately [16-May-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa would revert pretty quickly to not being particularly good at anything [16-May-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @Gilith 10%pio bonus over my cold dead body [16-May-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: XD [16-May-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why not drop me a DM to discuss further [16-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're in non-manufacturing industries there are still gains to be had [16-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I don't understand. " lost immediately"? why? 10% is 10%- worse than 25, but useful for those not invested into manufacturing [16-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Because 10% doesn't out-compete anything [16-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure, it's better than zero [16-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The fact this is a manufacturing planet has benefits for non-manufacturers too [16-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Manu demand drives up the price of inputs [16-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Are you selling RCO at 500+ per unit? That doesn't happen historically [16-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Each BMP uses 100 PIOs, the most of any building - drives up the demand for all inputs [16-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: the same could be said about any other specialized bonus, construction, chemistry or whatever- it also drives up the input prices [16-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes [16-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but that's been done on better suited planets [16-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: so why manuf? [16-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Because this planet is a bit "jack of all trades" really only suited to inefficient fuel production [16-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Manufacturing isn't a common COGC, so we etched it out [16-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: everything else you can do better elsewhere [16-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There'd be no point doing agriculture with proxion and others nearby [16-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: construction is gibson [16-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moffee** left.* [16-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: food processing has two planets nearby now; along with water on etherwind [16-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What line of business have you setup [16-May-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm invested into construction, but that's not the point- I'm not pushing for construction bonus [16-May-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If we change to construction, you'll still be uncompetitive compared to Gibson [16-May-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sorry, if we change to -pioneer- [16-May-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if i have a kat warehouse and i put COF in there, can my sneeky employees stil lgrab a drink, or is it locked [16-May-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: its locked ;) [16-May-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: good [16-May-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Doesnt look good rationing coffee ;) [16-May-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehe ty [16-May-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: are they drinking the executive's coffee? ;D [16-May-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ooh NN is a new corp? [16-May-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I recognise most of these names [16-May-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there's one thing though: most new players don't know much about planet specializations when they choose their package and planet. I certainly didn't, otherwise I'd probably choose Gibson. I'm not complaining, I still make decent profits, but construction is not of much use to me, and many others are in a similiar situation probably [16-May-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: @neke yah relatively new. i was recruited by sir_gideon [16-May-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: just means i can keep customers products seperate fomr my own on planet, so thats good [16-May-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: nad yes, I do have one BMP so technically I still benefit- but generic10% would still be more useful [16-May-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: * I meant manuf is not of much use to me above [16-May-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oh Sir_Gideon, not that crook (joke seems a good guy tried to run up PE prices on me, perfect attitude for a corp leader) [16-May-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: hahaha [16-May-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silencus88** joined.* [16-May-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: also, I don't suggest changing into 10% pioneers forever- just let it run for a week or 2 to help the new citizenz, then switch it back to manuf [16-May-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why not encourage them to do manufacturing? :) [16-May-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Join the powerhouse [16-May-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ship our well-priced highly profitable goods across the void [16-May-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, you were asking for suggestion, so I gave you one. I'm a noob, you know better- fine ;P [16-May-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's a valid discussion [16-May-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I started on Vallis Gilith and I coliq to restart over here on Katoa for the Manufacturing COCG [16-May-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I agree you don't have all the necessary information when you first start out [16-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Gilith if you're in construction would you like purchase LST here on Katoa? I've 300 units to offload [16-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I've been considering coliq, but decided to stay. we'll see how it goes; maybe I'll move my construction facilities to a new base when I can afford to [16-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can charge a fortune for fabs here :D [16-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm also flying in some iron [16-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @neke sure, but I won't be able to pay for it until tomorrow probably [16-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I dmd u [16-May-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I'll take some of those leftovers if there are any ;) [16-May-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone need any ALO here? [16-May-22 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not much smelting here [16-May-22 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I moved mine off-plane [16-May-22 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: t [16-May-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krush** joined.* [16-May-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korvegan** joined.* [16-May-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Misha2s** joined.* [16-May-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm about to upgrade the WAR again. I will donate the MCG and TRU, the rest of the fabs amount to ~180k CIS to buy on the market (which I will be doing) [16-May-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you would like to contribute to this, I am posting six 30k magic RATs, that's what they'll be going towards [16-May-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Upgrade complete! 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If you contribute more than 50% of any required COGC hit me up to discuss reimbursement [16-May-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: donation made [16-May-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: gratefully received [16-May-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B13R** joined.* [16-May-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoganBoi** left.* [16-May-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SanguchitoDeJamon** joined.* [16-May-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Timinho** joined.* [16-May-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gr33k13** joined.* [16-May-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***insane_dev** joined.* [16-May-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SneakyJesus** joined.* [16-May-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-Zygote-** joined.* [16-May-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heldan97** left.* [16-May-22 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sageious** left.* [16-May-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SMR5000** joined.* [16-May-22 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***changooman** left.* [16-May-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NMT** joined.* [16-May-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maneggsman** left.* [16-May-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RubelliteFae** left.* [16-May-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Proxoria** left.* [16-May-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship headed to benten station with plenty of room, leaving in about an hour and eta to the station will be <20 hrs [16-May-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Today marks my first full load of mats for sale all the way to Moria without using shipping contracts to subsidize. [16-May-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Congrats! [17-May-22 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: what did you send? [17-May-22 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Last call for benten station [17-May-22 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nothing sorry [17-May-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kmoore197** joined.* [17-May-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP.CI1 on the LM @ 1950u [17-May-22 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Firelurch** joined.* [17-May-22 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dezron** joined.* [17-May-22 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST on the LM [17-May-22 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST.CI1 listed at 80u on the LM :) [17-May-22 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Damn that must not have lasted long [17-May-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nope [17-May-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There will be more [17-May-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: fret not :) [17-May-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***07** joined.* [17-May-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lolfactory1243** joined.* [17-May-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: KATOA PROJECTS: I've setup a CLR that I will use to continually keep a supply of Electronic Pieces on CI1. So far I am just rotating through SWF, TRN, and LDI. I also have two FS established, SFK is well covered on the market but as my steel comes in I can do MFK on demand, along with other FS/CLR items if you reach out to arrange it (I may need help sourcing inputs). [17-May-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Because of this, I am also the occasional buyer of CU and AU, or CUO/AUO, so if you'd like to sell me some at attractive prices, I'll put them back on the market equally fairly :) [17-May-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: put the outputs back* [17-May-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also somewhat excitingly (?) I've setup four WELs for turning out a HYF's worth of MHL every 2.5 days. This will commence in a day or two once my first CLI arrives. These MHL are available exclusively to Katoans :) [17-May-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Damn i needed those MHLs a couple of days ago before i shipped all the FE and I to ementior :-D. [17-May-22 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I made a timing oops at Katoa. I need a dozen H within 2 hrs. I have posted a small buy 12 for 720 credits if someone can assist I'd appreciate it. [17-May-22 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you got it [17-May-22 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Thanks [17-May-22 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: np [17-May-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nrikito** left.* [17-May-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Election ends in three days. I’ll post this occasionally until then: [17-May-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: All Katoans, it is that time again and while I am technically presuming a little on the outcome of the current election, I would like to take this opportunity to ask you contact me and tell me a little bit about what you do on Katoa, suggestions you have for taxation, programs, or POPI, and your thoughts on COGC and Katoan trade in general. Traditionally very few people have bothered reaching out to me, and so I largely set the tax, POPI and Program policy β€œby feel” but if you’re active enough to vote for me you should feel comfortable enough reaching out to me! These discussions may lead to trade deals, tenders, or finding new business partners. - All regards, Neke, Governor Presumpt. Katoa Chapter CHOAM. [17-May-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***felle29pelle** left.* [17-May-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: A fuel refining buff would be nice for us fuel providers [17-May-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not sure how many there actually are [17-May-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but my DMs are open! [17-May-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I am :V [17-May-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: thats all of the important ones [17-May-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ;) [17-May-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: maybe a tax subsidy [17-May-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: doesnt amount to much [17-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10,000 CIS for priority shipping MOR to Katoa [17-May-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 70tm3 [17-May-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mruczek** joined.* [17-May-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alpha_command** joined.* [17-May-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gabe1111111111** left.* [17-May-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gabe1111111111** joined.* [17-May-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone on Umbra have 12 PSL they could throw on the local market there? I foolishly left mine here [17-May-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***insane_dev** left.* [17-May-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Contact @DrMambo [17-May-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You might get luck [17-May-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: y [17-May-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thanks [17-May-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: full load shipment to BEN up on LM [17-May-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kjankj** joined.* [17-May-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @joekingdom - I am waiting for your cargo to go to Umbra. [17-May-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: How do you even create the shipping order without the cargo ready? [17-May-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Got it. [17-May-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Can't get the cargo set without the contract being accepted, sorry for the delay [17-May-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No problem - I have never been the shipee so I don't know what the process is. Your cargo is on its way. [17-May-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thank you! [17-May-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ivanishappy** left.* [17-May-22 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Ship leaving for BEN>KAT soon. It 300m/240t free [17-May-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have three contracts [17-May-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just need some minutes to post [17-May-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: scratch that sorry [17-May-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: no worries :] [17-May-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anyone here is able to sell me 8 RDE, I'm in the market :) [17-May-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: ship gone [17-May-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: buying 95 mcg for 3k, just missing some for building 8( [17-May-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Scuro still need? [17-May-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Accepted [17-May-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Got a ship (85% empty) getting ready to leave from Ben to Katoa. I'll wait a few hours, throw up contracts and I'll grab em. [17-May-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scuro**: yeah thx [17-May-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I take it the 1 dollar ads are the only way to help out friends or different accounts? [17-May-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for the most part yeah [17-May-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or barter agreements [17-May-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Makes sense. Does being incorporated allow for free trading between the umbrella companies? [17-May-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: No [17-May-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Dang [17-May-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Though I guess 1 cis on a trade is pretty great [17-May-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Hey @Joekingdom when is your ship getting to BEN? [17-May-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: <3hrs [17-May-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seppi2** joined.* [17-May-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lolfactory1243** left.* [17-May-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Hell yes Joe my boy [17-May-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Hey, anybody has 250 FF? Would pay for it tomorrow. [17-May-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syllns** left.* [17-May-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bear_boy187** joined.* [17-May-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: still need the ff? 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[18-May-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RiynPlayZ** joined.* [18-May-22 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TessaMae** left.* [18-May-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slaanesh** joined.* [18-May-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No Greater Chaos Daemons here please [18-May-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Unless you're here to collect ammonia, which is fine. Just keep the marauding to a pleasant minimum [18-May-22 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In six hours there will be a dump on OVE.CI1 [18-May-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Put your orders in :) [18-May-22 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Susp3kt** joined.* [18-May-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Budyni20** joined.* [18-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not long before I drop several thousand units on OVE.CI1 and it looks like @IDKAnything is going to reap the rewards [18-May-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Get your bids in, as low as you like. 4,000 OVE hitting the match. [18-May-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: You're dropping those on the CX? [18-May-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yea [18-May-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Roger [18-May-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They arrive in a few hours [18-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kjankj** left.* [18-May-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blitz0606** left.* [18-May-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone produce NS here? 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[18-May-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: nvm, all taken care of. Thank you though [18-May-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaeptenRimpels** joined.* [18-May-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***k0uala** joined.* [18-May-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ace1_____** joined.* [18-May-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jozah** left.* [18-May-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krakenns** left.* [18-May-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AbsoluteMaddLadd** left.* [18-May-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Anyone want to sell me some C? [18-May-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I've got 14 on hand [18-May-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: How much? [18-May-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I posted an ad [18-May-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Ok see ad, sorry [18-May-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: no worries [18-May-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Thanks [18-May-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: No problem! 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I have 196t and 222m3 free [19-May-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 5/t [19-May-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: filled [19-May-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schnunken** joined.* [19-May-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DevilAngel** joined.* [19-May-22 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC is funded. Thanks @Knarfaction for the major MCG donation and @BlueHeeler and @Belladonna for the assist. [19-May-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fresh deliveries: [19-May-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SIO.CI1 [19-May-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: H2O.CI1 [19-May-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VulcanB2Xh558**: where are they? [19-May-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VulcanB2Xh558**: tbh i might not be able to access them [19-May-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VulcanB2Xh558**: im stupid [19-May-22 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aldin**: on cx [19-May-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VulcanB2Xh558**: yeah i eventually found out [19-May-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5caff0213e** left.* [19-May-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuckyNya** joined.* [19-May-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lumyo** joined.* [19-May-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve just put 180 PT.CI1 into production, they will complete in 6h and I’m hoping to sell them all here starting at 295/u. [19-May-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you’re interested place an ad or send me a DM to arrange. 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[19-May-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 100 is barely enough for 1-way trip to BEN [19-May-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RacerMaus8833** joined.* [19-May-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Retterrudi** joined.* [19-May-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monka_Honka** joined.* [19-May-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RobertRoig** joined.* [19-May-22 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***slcrawfu** joined.* [19-May-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Welcome new CEO's! [19-May-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***luckyspec** joined.* [19-May-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RobertRoig** left.* [19-May-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vatar** left.* [19-May-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEyeOfZeb** left.* [19-May-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aspect102** left.* [19-May-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: To potentially assist new farmers on Katoa I’ve placed some ads for ag product I need (RCO) on ten day contracts. Payment will be up front giving you capital to invest now, with the RCO deliverable any time in the next ten days. I’ll keep this up ad infinitum and I’m open to potentially buying other products or quantities if you’re interested in the payment terms. [19-May-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I would also buy RAT, but we’d have to negotiate the pricing. [19-May-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: This is why you keep getting the votes, keep up the great work Governor [19-May-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Retterrudi** left.* [19-May-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HC7** left.* [19-May-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: BEN>KAT leaving soon. Any shipments? [19-May-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WalkeR2489** left.* [19-May-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joekingdom** deleted this message.* [19-May-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Had a bit of dyslexia there on destinations [19-May-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SerraPi** joined.* [19-May-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: np! i gotta leave the station now anyways [19-May-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: H buy order on LM. I just need a small amount to fill a logistical error in ship arrival time. [19-May-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banan** left.* [19-May-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adim2** joined.* [19-May-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hackerzrul** left.* [19-May-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hackerzrul** joined.* [19-May-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrKwint** joined.* [19-May-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Does anyone have some MG? I can offer good price and require very little. 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[20-May-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: The price is lower than the CX H.CI1 [20-May-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 55/u [20-May-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Soon i'm gonna have to start pretending i'm a new player πŸ˜‚ [20-May-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: coliq and you will be ;) [20-May-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Haha, nah, the offer is good, but not coliq-good 😁 [20-May-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: just take a batch UberGrunk :-) [20-May-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Katterton** joined.* [20-May-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: *lists some O on LM, throws a torch into the warehouse and starts to RUN [20-May-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OfficialPlanet** left.* [20-May-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Licrovan** joined.* [20-May-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Thanks @Nicster, but i'm just joking around :) I'll leave your generous offers to those who really need it :D [20-May-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: After all, we all benefit if new players have an easier time :) [20-May-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***afi** joined.* [20-May-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Guido_Mancipioni** joined.* [20-May-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fresh REP.CI1 @ 375 [20-May-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Florelle** joined.* [20-May-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Put on some DW.CI1 offers on LM [20-May-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Forzii** joined.* [20-May-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akiryu** joined.* [20-May-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Graveylegs75** joined.* [20-May-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hasheesh** joined.* [20-May-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Texinio** joined.* [20-May-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sinoptik** joined.* [20-May-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dokarin** left.* [20-May-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***puppetjam** left.* [20-May-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jake4** left.* [20-May-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dagda** joined.* [20-May-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you to everyone who voted for me :) I’ll carry on more of the same work and release an updated tax policy in the coming days. [20-May-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kouketsu_Blackthorne** left.* [20-May-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slysmoke** left.* [20-May-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone producing LSE? i need 12 [20-May-22 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or 1500 PG? [20-May-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm producing LSE, but 12 would take me a long time- how urgent is it? [20-May-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ideally a few days, how long would it take you? [20-May-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: with my current backlog, ~4 days [20-May-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and how much per unit? [20-May-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 5k/unit [20-May-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 4800 if you pay in advance- I need to fetch lots of PG [20-May-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok i cna do that, how does this sound, im happy to create 2 buy orders for 5 on 5 day at 24500, if yo uaccept both id pay one now to give you funds towards production, and will pay the second when you ready to deliver? [20-May-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: sure, sounds good [20-May-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok both up [20-May-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: wait, that's ~4k per unit... [20-May-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep i mad wrong one sec [20-May-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thereyou go, that should be right now [20-May-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: now it's on 3 days :) [20-May-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehe one sec [20-May-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'll accept it, but please extend if I don't make it on time [20-May-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill get this right [20-May-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i can change them [20-May-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK, up to you [20-May-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thirds times a charm [20-May-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: :) ty [20-May-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks [20-May-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapeSL** left.* [20-May-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KoiFarmer** joined.* [20-May-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AtheistOfFail** joined.* [20-May-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JustChance** joined.* [20-May-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***whitlockmatthew71** joined.* [20-May-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***timmythe1st** joined.* [21-May-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhoulishWonder** left.* [21-May-22 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlyssaJo** left.* [21-May-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***R3velaion** joined.* [21-May-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iamthedevil** joined.* [21-May-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hell2o** joined.* [21-May-22 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sleevesies** left.* [21-May-22 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***the000viper000** joined.* [21-May-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***andreotty** left.* [21-May-22 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yuu** left.* [21-May-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChongJF** left.* [21-May-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tfs011116** joined.* [21-May-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HolyShitMage** left.* [21-May-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** joined.* [21-May-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spice_Dandy** joined.* [21-May-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone have LST for sale here? [21-May-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hello Katoa family. I am a new shipping company in the area. I look forward to communicating with any of you needing stuff shipped. [21-May-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: ANNOUNCEMENT: My ship will be landing at Benten Station in 21h if you are needing to restock your stores you can purchase stuff at the CX and I can bring it back to KATOA. Just contact me if you are interested in my company picking up your stuff. [21-May-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LightningStormW** left.* [21-May-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amageki** left.* [21-May-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BulliedDog** left.* [21-May-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CMoneyTDG** joined.* [21-May-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm looking for PG supplier- 1-2k per week, maybe more, depending on my growth. PM [21-May-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PSA Player "FLAK_Construction" should be blacklisted for contracts ASAP, they are grabbing buy ads off the LMs left and right and never filling or responding, taking prepayments and letting them expire. [21-May-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I was afraid that was going to start happening with how many ppl have been joining [21-May-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: how do i do that? [21-May-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: UST FLAK_Construction, block [21-May-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: USR* [21-May-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: thanks [21-May-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: When you block, does it block thier posts in LM and them being able to pick up contracts from you? [21-May-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: when you click block is asks this: "Are you sure you want to prevent this user from accepting your local market ads?" [21-May-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: *is->it [21-May-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Awesome! Thank you! The more you know. [21-May-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: He did start 11 days ago. Someone may need to teach him. He may not really know what he is doing. 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Yeah I had to COLIQ after realizing how all this works [21-May-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: I did it a couple times myself [21-May-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I did it twice. first time I could not figure out how to get employees, second time I hated making carbon. Now I am a shipper that makes fuel. [21-May-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Going to setup warehouses all over and have one ship moving fuel and goods and the other just goods. [21-May-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMi** left.* [21-May-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Miowo** joined.* [21-May-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: Anyone got some rations they want to sell? [21-May-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: Need me some RATs [21-May-22 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I've got 30 I can part with [21-May-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: I'll take em [21-May-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I just threw up an ad [21-May-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: oh, so did I :-) [21-May-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: I'll keep the other up there [21-May-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: ty sir [21-May-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I'll start posting ads for rats more frequently [21-May-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: tx, I'm lazy and rather pay for them on planet in the comfort of my PJs. [21-May-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Again, you can find no better Meth Rats than Joeporium [21-May-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: nice, meth is a bonus [21-May-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: It's the secrect sauce [21-May-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TyrannussVictor**: I won't tell anyone :-) [21-May-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gnevich** left.* [21-May-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phoneurion** joined.* [21-May-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Landing at Benten Station in 8 hours if anyone needs stuff shipped back to Katoa PM before posting so I can help you. Figure 5CIS per ton. It takes about 21hrs to travel. I am working to make it faster. 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I have 1 1/2 ships to fill [22-May-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ivep ut a shipment fomr ben to kat on kat lm [22-May-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: THank you Karr [22-May-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thanks [22-May-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tekashibelike** joined.* [22-May-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laximium** joined.* [22-May-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AngryWidow** joined.* [22-May-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Last call before launching. Anyone else need shipping from Benten Station to Katoa [22-May-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ships have launched [22-May-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skjelly_fetti6** joined.* [22-May-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StormyOst** joined.* [22-May-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST available on LM UV-072c: 180 units at 70u. One jump away (6-12hr round trip). For immediate fulfillment. [22-May-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Agent53** joined.* [22-May-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Hi Katoans, I’d like to see an ELP on Katoa soon. I’m establishing the input pipeline now: I have a CLR, two FS, and a strong supply of metals including AL, SI, and CU. I can supply SCA+MCA, which in turn go into the ELP. I can’t do the entire chain though, so if you’d be interested in doing the last mile please contact me so I can scale [22-May-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: scale my operation accordingly. As this grows I would atep [22-May-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: step back from T1 manufacturing and let others take up the BMP mantle [22-May-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m already supplying at least one SCA on the planet that is going into high level consumables, and it’s time to diversify! 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Programs will remain focused on ENG immigration. [22-May-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: New players struggling with the Manufacturing package I recommend considering farming, if you want help making this switch please contact me directly and I will endeavor to assist you. 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Thanks for the lead on the RCO, I'll look into that [22-May-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hello Katoans, does anyone have 10 Units of AMM I can purchase? I would love to keep my refinary going. I have more being made now, but I wanted to make a bigger batch of SF. [22-May-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShockerWolf191** left.* [22-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: @SmittyVentures I have 5 AMM [22-May-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: ad posted on LM [22-May-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Two offers on LM [22-May-22 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thank you [22-May-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: ty [22-May-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: You all rock [22-May-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***disruptek** left.* [22-May-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: does anyone have a RIG setup on Katoa right now? I'm just looking for any reference to how much h20 you get per order for some math I'm trying to do [22-May-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have 7 RIGs running on Katoa [22-May-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: how much h20 do you get from a single order (on a single RIG)? [22-May-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 3 units every 3h 50m - however, I am running at 128% efficiency due to 5 experts [22-May-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: awesome thanks, the high efficiency is fine. i'm just looking for ballpark [22-May-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will relocate the experts and see what happens. [22-May-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 3 units every 4h 56m at 99% efficiency [22-May-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: many thanks [22-May-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My 7 RIGs easily supply 3 Farmsteads and 4 Food Processors with some extra to sell when people are stuck. [22-May-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: busy production line :] [22-May-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am mostly self-sufficient. main business is fuel production and shipping. [22-May-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: oh cool :] that's me. trying to focus on fuel and shipping (and eventually ship building) [22-May-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i'm putzing around with this thing called a Leontief model. I enjoy math, but don't know anything about economics so its all a little new lol [22-May-22 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, I would like to build ships eventually as well. [22-May-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Can't help there. I am doing it almost strickly by observation and simple math. [22-May-22 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: that's how i actually play right now. just doing some theory stuff on the side to learn some new math things. [22-May-22 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: I do a little on the master base planner. But my production lines are so simple now its easy enough to punch into a calculator [22-May-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I just recently heard about the browser plugin that makes watching things easier - less calculations. [22-May-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: is that the pmmg beautifier thing? [22-May-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: yes, very handy [22-May-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: oh nice, i will try to get it installed then. i was curious if it was helpful [22-May-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I turned off notifications though - didn't like the colors [22-May-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: heh noted [22-May-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: calculates ETAs and unit costs, etc. [22-May-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: run in the side bar by default [22-May-22 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: oh yeah this plugin is cool af [22-May-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, I wish I had heard about it a lot sooner. I've only had it for a month or so. [22-May-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Typerion** left.* [22-May-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: 30k for 1 RAT? [23-May-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***madmax64** left.* [23-May-22 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Donations to the Government [23-May-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For WAR upgrades that was [23-May-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (the upgrades are done now) [23-May-22 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nonexia** joined.* [23-May-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrostiitheCrow** left.* [23-May-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I see I see [23-May-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaSa2** left.* [23-May-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gizzix** left.* [23-May-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DerogatoryNameForAfricans** left.* [23-May-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: Hi, is anyone thinking about producing DDT.CI1 ? The price on the CXL is insane [23-May-22 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sadpan** joined.* [23-May-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belladonna** left.* [23-May-22 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @DrMambo might negotiate for it but the price is generally due to the problem sourcing inputs and the high demand for outputs. [23-May-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What are you trying to do though? It’s probably easier to source FIM, KOM or MED. [23-May-22 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bazoomanu** left.* [23-May-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: anyone flying BEN -> Katoa today? I'm looking for quick, below 12h shipment, 81t - can pay extra [23-May-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can make that flight, I ships there. Post an ad at A rating, will fly them free [23-May-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can take up to 750tm3 actually in batches of 250 [23-May-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: thank you, posted [23-May-22 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Horbel** joined.* [23-May-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaltenstein23** left.* [23-May-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Threapster** left.* [23-May-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedMars** left.* [23-May-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayKaySpace** left.* [23-May-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xpldrgmr** joined.* [23-May-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Looks like someone else got them? Not seeing anything BEN>KAT [23-May-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes, karr1981 picked them up a few minutes ago [23-May-22 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No worries the ships can remain for the next player! [23-May-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xpldrgmr**: hello [23-May-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hello! [23-May-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Brand new to PrUn? [23-May-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome to Katoa :) [23-May-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mackenziesmyth1** joined.* [23-May-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 224t of spare capacity for free shipping FROM Benten Exchange TO Katoa surface. [23-May-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Please place your ads with an β€œA” rating and at 1 CIS. Departure in 6 hours or when capacity is filled. [23-May-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: urgent RAT buy up on LM if anyone can help me out [23-May-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MisterMcStar** left.* [23-May-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: taken care of ^ [23-May-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CHOAM free shuttle service BEN>KAT leaves in 12 minutes. Arrival in T+12h. [23-May-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JasonMoonshadow** left.* [23-May-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 2, about to be 3, Benten based STL ships. New players should be using your extraordinary valuable starter ships for interstellar flight - find contracts, talk to me if you have idle ships I’ll task them or find you someone. Your FTL ships should be used flying to this CX with 40t of goods if you can help it when they can be earning 10k a job. [23-May-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: shouldn’t be used*** [23-May-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cro_Low** left.* [23-May-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: @neke86 advice on interstellar shipping contracts? My ships ain't doing a thing [23-May-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Send them my way neke ;) [23-May-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Curbmonkey** joined.* [23-May-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Message @Nicster @Sintheras @karr1981 [23-May-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And myself :) [23-May-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some people might leave large shipping contracts but a lot will want to arrange it - because too many new players make costly mistakes or simply quit without delivering. I’ll pretty much always have work for anyone who messages me but I’m not going to leave up dozens of jobs on LMs to be taken at random :) [23-May-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I do shipping contracts when it's up on the markets, but i can do customs too if i get contacted about freight. [23-May-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: i do my own calculation for cost in fuel consumption, but if it's a custom one all detailed usually needs to be talked/agreed upon in MSG. [23-May-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: But since there is a lot of back and fourth about actual cost per 1 Cargo it's a bit hard to have a actual freight standard. [23-May-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zerggodmaster** left.* [23-May-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tralen** joined.* [23-May-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krataar** left.* [23-May-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jodaaa** joined.* [23-May-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***darklight2367** left.* [23-May-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordMcMoney** left.* [23-May-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: A good place to also look is CB-282d which often has contracts for one-way shipping at around 10k per load. That basically compensates you for flying there empty [23-May-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: That’s e.g. where Nicster and Sinthreas have a lot of contracts [23-May-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: *Sintheras [23-May-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 50 CAF and 50 COF available if wante icna put up on LM, just let me know [23-May-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaguya** joined.* [23-May-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maximusham** left.* [23-May-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: @karr1981 I'd be interested in some CAF but im kind of a poor, only have 4000 cis to my name [23-May-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: so a small contract would work; my FP is idle [23-May-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: can do 8 for 4k if you want, cheaper than CX [23-May-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or 4 for 2k [23-May-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if you want just create a buy order and ill fill it when i see it for you [23-May-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSnattleRake** left.* [23-May-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: @karr1981 ad posted [23-May-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AideFinchew** joined.* [23-May-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kupiter_K** left.* [23-May-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fry2000** joined.* [23-May-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship going Ben>Katoa, got a couple hundred tons to spare if anyone needs anything shipped. Leaving in abount an hour. [23-May-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsAshe** left.* [23-May-22 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Munku** left.* [23-May-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Last call Ben>Katoa, ETA <48hrs [23-May-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: <16hrs actually [24-May-22 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PotatoHam** left.* [24-May-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: I'm looking for someone who could sell me just a couple OVE,KOM and REP on Katoa. [24-May-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: katoa - prox 436t and 469m3 free. leaving in the next 1-2 hours [24-May-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you place some ads Zenio I’ll try full them [24-May-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: ok [24-May-22 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: done [24-May-22 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: thx! @neke86 [24-May-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Short on funds, anyone need 10 rco? [24-May-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: @Sir_Gideon_Ofnir Will surely buy some [24-May-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: just text him firs [24-May-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Derssl**: t [24-May-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I'll take some as well [24-May-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Post an ad and I'll fill it =) [24-May-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vantage** left.* [24-May-22 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExtaZzZ** joined.* [24-May-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can almost always post an RCO sell and watch it taken within hours [24-May-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or minutes [24-May-22 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I got 250 Volume and 450 Weight open in a freighter coming here, anyone need anything moved/freighted over here?? [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: new H on LM [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone like SIO.CI1 here on Katoa? [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 168 units I'm willing to let go for 50/u [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If yes, just post a buy [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll sell it to the highest placed ad for 168 [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if you are strapped for cash, just date the contract longer for a later payment [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: I have just topped up the POPI for all managed infrastructure to 28-30 days of supply. The next COGC cycle opens in two days, so if you think you're going to be able to help with DW, RAT, MCG, or PE, please start preparing to donate (or soliciting me for recompense). [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I am also looking to purchase at least 60, and up to 180 FOD (150u) for the PAR. [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I can help with PE [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LOCAL RULES CHANGES: PIO and SET taxes in Agriculture, Construction, and Fuel Refining have been reduced to the minimum 10 CIS. Taxation on Manufacturing has been increased at all levels. Taxation on TEC, ENG, SCI have been raised across all industries. [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LM fees remain low. [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The WAR fees remain at the lowest and I encourage anyone needing more space, or simply wishing to contribute, to rent out those warehouses and fill them! [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you @Nicster [24-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SLiCER** joined.* [24-May-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Would someone who uses AIC like to sell me something for 150 AIC so that I can get rid if it. 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Please take what you need only :) [24-May-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wormfuneral** joined.* [24-May-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I can sell 54 COT within 3 days if interested DM. [24-May-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreier234** left.* [24-May-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jarne_Ghost** left.* [24-May-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dor_Ande** left.* [24-May-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 450tm3 free shipping BEN>KAT, departs 30 minutes on 12 hour journey. [24-May-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sline** left.* [24-May-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Timinho** left.* [24-May-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9e02a69c02** left.* [24-May-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leadcask**: Thanks for putting up shipping contracts Gov. 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[24-May-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hegemony** left.* [24-May-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: any one got some spare FEO im 5 short of running my next production [24-May-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Ben > Kat ship leaving in 30 mins...only about 5% full [24-May-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Or 95% empty depending on your outlook haha [24-May-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SneakyJesus** left.* [24-May-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***riley.swanson** joined.* [24-May-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [24-May-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: + [24-May-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Someone fell asleep at the keyboard.... and they only landed on the a somehow... [24-May-22 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NMT** left.* [24-May-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Astroblade95** joined.* [25-May-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kmoore197** left.* [25-May-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Firelurch** left.* [25-May-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asaru** joined.* [25-May-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MikadoKyb** left.* [25-May-22 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dezron** left.* [25-May-22 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedHotKomet** joined.* [25-May-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yucky** joined.* [25-May-22 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liebe** joined.* [25-May-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone able to sell me 6-8 FE [25-May-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need to kickstart a process [25-May-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can repay in FE, or I can pay 600u [25-May-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I can sell 2 if it helps [25-May-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It does, I will place a buy ad [25-May-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can sell the rest [25-May-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: would like to be repaid in FE :-) [25-May-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***07** left.* [25-May-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure! [25-May-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll post a tiny ad [25-May-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Posted [25-May-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: posted the return ad with 20 days [25-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: anyone got 5 FEO spare ill trade you a FE or return it when i get my FEO on site in 2days [25-May-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd be surprised if there is FEO floating around [25-May-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: i was hoping but i didnt expect [25-May-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can bring some in about 2 days [25-May-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or buying on the CX and ship it [25-May-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and I'll bring it back on one of my constantly running ferries :) [25-May-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got a ship landing at BEN in 3h50m that will be turned around for Katoa within ~11h after that [25-May-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Check your DMs [25-May-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***magnoroboto** joined.* [25-May-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AttilaTheHun** joined.* [25-May-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mruczek** left.* [25-May-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have two full shiploads of LST available a single 6hr jump from here, is anyone interested? [25-May-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 183 units per load [25-May-22 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 60 cis/u [25-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA UV-072c/106 [25-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA UV-072c/107 [25-May-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Go get em :) [25-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've made them long-dated contracts so payment isn't due immediately [25-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [25-May-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All you need is a ship and a few hours [25-May-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If someone wants to split a load of that Limestone I will pay 75 cis/u on delivery to Katoa. Message me for more info. [25-May-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BunBao** joined.* [25-May-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tflagg** joined.* [25-May-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1 batch has been taken second batch still available [25-May-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LM UV-072c folks [25-May-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4e86d4b9fc** left.* [25-May-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alpha_command** left.* [25-May-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neilatron** joined.* [25-May-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***poojansshukla** joined.* [25-May-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deadknife3** joined.* [25-May-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: neke86 look at DM [25-May-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SynAsilum** left.* [25-May-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got it! 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[25-May-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: That's something that needs to get addressed in an update [25-May-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cupa** joined.* [25-May-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: for realism you should have to put in a complicated compensation claim with the liquidator :P [25-May-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordCola** joined.* [25-May-22 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***king_jeff** joined.* [25-May-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IosefAugustus** joined.* [25-May-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @tesseractPurple I am sorry to hear about your loss. [25-May-22 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I made sure I finished my deliveries before I COLIQed. [25-May-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Have no intensions of evry COLIQing again [25-May-22 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Did the user actually COLIQ or did they just not complete the contract? [25-May-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Was the user name FLAK_Construction? [25-May-22 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You can block a user from taking you contracts with this command: USR username block [25-May-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have a block on FLAK_Construction. [25-May-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RemGidrine** joined.* [25-May-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***addama** joined.* [25-May-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TesseractPurple**: I mean. they are listed as liquidated now. The company was Chubb. I dont know what the user name is. [25-May-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: He probably was new and ran out of fuel and money at the same itme. [25-May-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: time [25-May-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I was lucky I had the smarts to sell everything to get fuel to finish my deliveries. [25-May-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Never want to screw over someone elses game [25-May-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: speaking of fuel, I m selling 1k STL for 9k ;) (please, god, I'm new and i have no liquidity) [25-May-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will buy it [25-May-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thanks I need it. [25-May-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: <3 thank you! [25-May-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: btw, i see that you have to pick it up, do you have to do anything for that if we're on the same planet? [25-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Nope [25-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Got it [25-May-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I had to fulfill [25-May-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: cool stuff, pleasure doing business with you. Yomomz' fuel is the best ;) [25-May-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone on Katoa have 12 or 14 BSE they can sell for 1300/unit? Message me please. [25-May-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fuzo** joined.* [25-May-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: is it feasible to extract ammonia on Katoa to supply a fuel refiner? [25-May-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: *collect [25-May-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fuzo** left.* [25-May-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fuzo** joined.* [25-May-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: sure? [25-May-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: hnb' [25-May-22 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: _yomomz, I have 3 collectors and 5 refineries. The 3 collectors supply me with more than enough Ammonia and when I have lots of Ammonia I collect Oxygen. Understand though that my refineries are making FF and HE3 in addition to SF. I change configurations depending on which resources that I have and need. [25-May-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: i see, thanks! [25-May-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: THank you BlueHeeler [25-May-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am looking to do the same to support my shipping company. [25-May-22 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andyee** left.* [25-May-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I should also point out that I have 5 experts on extraction giving me 128% production [25-May-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Takes time [25-May-22 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: You did not do it in your first month [25-May-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No, it has taken 419 days to get to this point. But I produce almost all of my personell requirements except for KOM and most of my raw materials. I have 3 bases. [25-May-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Nice [25-May-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: 291 days and I just got my second base, although it's just for storage, and this was my first month of a pro license... I can only Imagine where I would be if I hadn't been spending so much on fuel lol [25-May-22 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I the beginning I sold all of my FF and struggled to keep enough SF to get to the station. For months I never had full tanks. [25-May-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I COLIQd after the first week when I ran out of CIS and realized that I had to actually fly to the CX. [25-May-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: The value of the LM can not be understated [25-May-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When I started there was no LM. [25-May-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: That had to be rough [25-May-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Wow...yeah I only found this when Kyle Hill on youtube had an ad on a vid [25-May-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I find the LM mostly useful for selling and shipping. Buying not so much. Most people are asking too much and since I have to go to the CX anyway, that is where I buy most of what I need. [25-May-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NETSI** joined.* [25-May-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Yeah I try not to buy too much, and do my best to sell below cx prices [25-May-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am about to make a shipment to Umbra anyone need something shipped [25-May-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I took a contract and am on my way there now - full. [25-May-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Expensive trip right now. [25-May-22 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I wanted to get one at the bottom but they require a C [25-May-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, I took one of those and topped up with supplies for my workers. I will come back with a load Hydrogen. [25-May-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Watbex** joined.* [25-May-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I sell at the bid price or less if it lubricates another buy. [25-May-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I always have small amounts of essentials that I will sell if you are stuck. [25-May-22 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spice_Dandy**: Do people buy spicy herbs or are they a waste of time? [25-May-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: They probably don't pay for the CX price. I make all of my own spicy herbs. [25-May-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Goodnight Katoa! 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[26-May-22 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ^ on a completely unrelated note? :P [26-May-22 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes place ads [26-May-22 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ill grab asap [26-May-22 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeBread** left.* [26-May-22 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nabbit** left.* [26-May-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RiynPlayZ** left.* [26-May-22 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OSOGR** left.* [26-May-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OSOGR** joined.* [26-May-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vnyx** left.* [26-May-22 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: WATER: I've sent 3,700 units to the exchange, and have about 2,000 here on Katoa for sale [26-May-22 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20 is the target price [26-May-22 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In conjunction with the other CHOAM Guild member, @DrMambo, we're setting up a bit more capcity on EW to help feed Katoa+CX. [26-May-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aoikiri** joined.* [26-May-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gameupyourlife** joined.* [26-May-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***echo5229** joined.* [26-May-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: DM for DrMambo [26-May-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: He;s not going to supply water directly sorry [26-May-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We'll be arranging it via my large hauler :) [26-May-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have posted two more ads to (LM UV-072c). One of them is a 1,000 CIS shipping contract, and the other is 150 LST @ 50u. Combined they make just under 500t. If you collect the LST and bring me the SHPT, the LST works out at 43.3u :) [26-May-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I need DrMambo to make space available for a shipment that I am unable to transfer. [26-May-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll tell him right now [26-May-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: about to have a Zoom with him lol [26-May-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thanks neke [26-May-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 250t free space for BEN to KAT [26-May-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: mildly urgent need for RAT and DW. I have 2 orders up on LM but an open to negotiation [26-May-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got it :) [26-May-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: many thanks [26-May-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Want anything shipped free? 230t, 225m3 available [26-May-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: imminent departure [26-May-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Nothing here but thanks! 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[27-May-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Thanks for that, I haven't payed attention to DW prices in a while. Makes me wonder if Neke leaving the market caused a spike in prices or is it just coincidence? [27-May-22 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There’s just too much demand not enough raw H2O. I’m addressing the latter again but it’s a bit difficult on my shipping [27-May-22 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve got 3,800 more H2O leaving EW right now, and thousands more waiting for shipment [27-May-22 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If someone wants a shipping contract, please holler [27-May-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Sure, i can do one. currently have one just idling 500/500 is the carry cap [27-May-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay, I’ll post an ad now to collect it from Etherwind. When you fly there can you please use 180 SF and 100 FF on each leg. Should be about 17h travel time each way [27-May-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve paid a bit extra actually so if you could bump it to 200/120ish that would be appreciated [27-May-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Sure, will do, sending the guy over to EW now [27-May-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Awesome [27-May-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: No problem ^^ [27-May-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: is there a way to set a exact amount when it comes to fuel usage?? for the slider is not always okey to use!! [27-May-22 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No there is just the slider, it’s a massive pain [27-May-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Damn, oh well, i have done the closes i could get it, i'll set it to a bit higher usage on the way back since i got it just a tad bit under to it. [27-May-22 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I'm currently setting up a spreadsheet for the base consumption......have done it for most of the routes i use and stuff i produce too. XD [27-May-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GRVBBS** joined.* [27-May-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It doesn’t have to be precise that’s just roughly the efficient point [27-May-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it’s unhelpful when you pay 10-12k for shipping and someone stretches the delivery out to 4, nearly 5 days [27-May-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: when for just a bit of fuel you can get it done in 1.5 [27-May-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: oh, yeah, definitely, yeah, no that kind of stretching it like that is just bad. I'm just within +- of 5 or so unit of FF or STL so it's basically just down to a few minutes usually [27-May-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Perfection [27-May-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Yeah and thanks, i usually like to keep within a normal reasonable transport time, i follow the time i like to do for myself and that's around FF 150 and STL in between 50-180 depending on the route. 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[28-May-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just 200 actually [28-May-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i can do 200 [28-May-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: shall we say 2mill? :-) [28-May-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehehe chuck up a buy and ill fill it [28-May-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahahah [28-May-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Id have thought about it.. [28-May-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thunderpatty** left.* [28-May-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thunderpatty** joined.* [28-May-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Graveylegs75** left.* [28-May-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Varneshi** joined.* [28-May-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fudge_filled** left.* [28-May-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fanres** left.* [28-May-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: OMG for the second time trying to setup a base and I leave all my PSL behind. FOR THE SECOND TIME, HOW DID I NOT LEARN???????????? =((( [28-May-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exaron** joined.* [28-May-22 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hagenberg** joined.* [28-May-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tolerableship02** left.* [28-May-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ian_the_Great** joined.* [28-May-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KoiFarmer** left.* [28-May-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Barek_Obamer** joined.* [28-May-22 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: plenty of cheap water on the LM :) [28-May-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***whitlockmatthew71** left.* [28-May-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VyachesP** joined.* [28-May-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Guido_Mancipioni** left.* [28-May-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Palawan** joined.* [29-May-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Palawan** left.* [29-May-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***frostsmaker** joined.* [29-May-22 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eugenspiegel** joined.* [29-May-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fraggle** joined.* [29-May-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***frostsmaker** left.* [29-May-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liquidator** joined.* [29-May-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PyroIsGod** left.* [29-May-22 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8677a6b42a** left.* [29-May-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have an empty 500t STL cruiser available on Umbra looking for cargo to either Katoa or Benten CX. [29-May-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8d27b5be4e** left.* [29-May-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve put up quite a lot of RCO orders that should suit smaller players. [29-May-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And cheap water to support the same [29-May-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***the000viper000** left.* [29-May-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DDEXTER** joined.* [29-May-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tfs011116** left.* [29-May-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Liquidator**: Newbie question on Katoa: Why is the CoGC giving a manufacturing bonus, and not fuel refining? Isn't this the only decent fuel refining starter planet? [29-May-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I really need a form of words to paste for this [29-May-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: like this: [29-May-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: Katoa is good for doing refining poorly, but never at scale - large scale you need H from off planet and similar for GAL/AMM. You can make an okay start of it though Secondly on that point, because the bigger players who paid for the infrastructure, continue to support upkeep, and vote, seem to be in manufacturing. It is also in several corp interests to have a central manufacturing base, which is Katoa. There are other better refining centers in the universe But Katoa is centrally placed to benefit from H, C, proximity to farming and construction etc [29-May-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: took it from your post in the discord [29-May-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Couldn’t have written it better myself Knarf ;) [29-May-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you have written it XD [29-May-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Liquidator if you choose to refine here it won’t be very competitive but you’ll make plenty of money just fine, if for no other reason than many large manufacturers here buy thousands of SF/FF per week [29-May-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: The COGC is chosen by a vote, if people want something different it can happen [29-May-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Voting is in this buffer: COGCPEX UV-351A [29-May-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lukat** joined.* [29-May-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Liquidator**: You are probably right that Katoa isn't the best planet for fuel refining, but somehow it is the designated starting planet for it. In the new Company Creation Assistant it is actually the only one shown as 5 stars - great. [29-May-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Liquidator**: But maybe Fuel Engineer shouldn't be a starting profession at all ... [29-May-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wouldn’t put too much weight on that, you can profit and thrive without the COGC - CX prices for fuels are buoyant, and you can subsidize your own shipping costs of course [29-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There’s a steady supply of cheap H on this LM, if you have trouble sourcing it send me a DM and I’ll connect you with someone [29-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The GAL/AMM you can extract yourself here until you expand or doversifh [29-May-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: * [29-May-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: diversify [29-May-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***St0rm** joined.* [29-May-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JustChance** left.* [29-May-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***velipa1908** joined.* [29-May-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tarrin_chapman** joined.* [29-May-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wetbox** joined.* [29-May-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trazyn_the_Collector** joined.* [29-May-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hgoodliffe** left.* [29-May-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deathknightxd** left.* [29-May-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJFernik** joined.* [29-May-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kjolnyr** joined.* [29-May-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Node** joined.* [29-May-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toumakatsusa** joined.* [29-May-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toumakatsusa** left.* [29-May-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toumakatsusa** joined.* [29-May-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Does anyone have any CAF to sell? 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[30-May-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: how much? or do you put up sell contracts instead? [30-May-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***perkas9900** joined.* [30-May-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Z3nio** deleted this message.* [30-May-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoneDog** joined.* [30-May-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoneDog** left.* [30-May-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoneDog** joined.* [30-May-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: got some PWO on the market [30-May-22 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Someone willing to buy off me 500 PWOs? [30-May-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am only selling 6 I could not afford 500 LOL [30-May-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: buy mine and resell them as 506 [30-May-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: lol [30-May-22 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoneDog** left.* [30-May-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoneDog** joined.* [30-May-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why not send them up to the CX? [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I will have another 500 by the time it sells. If there will be no interest on Katoa I will sell it at CX. [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you put them in an A-rated shipping contract I'll fly them right now [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm about to leave [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: How much? [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or DM me the buy-it-now price :) [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Shipping for free [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All KAT<>BEN shipping I run for free [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: DM me price [30-May-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 3 STL ships [30-May-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: DANG I can't compete with that. LOL free shipping. [30-May-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am having to pause shipping due to going on vacation soon. [30-May-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's the point, don;'t waste your multi-million dollar starter ships puttering to the CX and back with 50t on board and competing with dozens of other players doing the same thing competing for shipping [30-May-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pay nothing, or 100 CIS and get it shipped direct [30-May-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I generally run 6-12h burns [30-May-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: When I get back from vacation I will be ready to make more runs for you. [30-May-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nice [30-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: When you buy COF and you add it to your inventory does it instantly apply to your people? [30-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes [30-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: should do [30-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Cause I bought some to use and some to sell and I think it used it all [30-May-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah that can happen if you bought less than a daily consumption [30-May-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I bought 10 [30-May-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And your daily usage? [30-May-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I thought it was 0.6 [30-May-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yeah 0.6 [30-May-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Maybe it's in the wrong inventory somewhere [30-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: on the ship still? [30-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: nope [30-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Cause I got it for 425 [30-May-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: was a good price [30-May-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Oh well my mistake. such is life. [30-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So where did it go? [30-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It won't have just glitched out of the game [30-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I know. [30-May-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: One of the employees must have stolen them [30-May-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Stealing coffee is an airlock offence. [30-May-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I agree [30-May-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Space them [30-May-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: kids want breakfast. Talk to ya'll later. [30-May-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 you really need 6 PWOs just so you know. [30-May-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at 360u? [30-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yup [30-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: asteroid belt robbery [30-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: is that high? [30-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I went off market. [30-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: plus some [30-May-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I took it because it was only six [30-May-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Generally speaking though, selling manufacturing items, on a manufacturing COGC planet, to a bunch of predominantly manufacturers, isn't going to go well :) [30-May-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: ah ok. [30-May-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: now I know [30-May-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put up buys for 400 Carbon @ 300u [30-May-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pls fill :D [30-May-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***camperking** joined.* [30-May-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AngryWidow** left.* [30-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Havachi** left.* [30-May-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hashishins** joined.* [30-May-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rippen_Gabriel** joined.* [30-May-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: @neke86 did you get all the C already? [30-May-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: also i have 141 BDE if anyon needs any hehe [30-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I got 400, would buy more if the price is lower though [30-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: otherwise need to wait [30-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If I keep buying expensive C it will mean adjusting my entire pricing model [30-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anybody want CAF or COF, have 50 of each available [30-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: before itake to cx [30-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***azraels** joined.* [30-May-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StormyOst** left.* [30-May-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @karr1981 I messaged you [30-May-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Does anyone here have a base on Prism (or in a corp that can help) and want to chat about getting HE to market? DM me please! [30-May-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***S1r** joined.* [30-May-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @karr1981 I have sent you a DM. [30-May-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goldwind** left.* [30-May-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaskmSmith** left.* [30-May-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone have 8 BBH available? [30-May-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [30-May-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will fill an ad at CX offer [30-May-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (if no one else chimes in) [30-May-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Posted, 16k a fair price? [30-May-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes, ad accepted [30-May-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thank you! 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[30-May-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dawikzard** joined.* [30-May-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***seblimonta21** left.* [30-May-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***piesky12** left.* [30-May-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: launching to BEN in 30mins, the trip will take 10.5h- ship is almost empty [30-May-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlazedGeek** joined.* [30-May-22 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***me.mee.me.mee.me.mee.me** joined.* [30-May-22 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Athenios** joined.* [30-May-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SweetBee** joined.* [30-May-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: shpment from BEN to kat posted on KAT LM,easy money for anyone coming back [30-May-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: literally seconds after i left ;) it would have just fit [30-May-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: damn sorry mate [30-May-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if literally just left you cna abort and fly back easily hehe [30-May-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: oh, 1 day though... hmm [30-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np if not [30-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oops 2.30am, time to sleep lol, night all [30-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: if you abort it finishes the current section.. so it will still spend 2 days flying to katoa and then turn around [30-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh damn [30-May-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: saves the fuel of landing, but it will take ages [30-May-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah no point, thanks anyway [30-May-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera952e4f64b** left.* [30-May-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: ^Tekashi do be like that [30-May-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrummandWester** joined.* [30-May-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrueSentrie** joined.* [31-May-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nonexia** left.* [31-May-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** joined.* [31-May-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 1,000 H2O available here on Katoa for 16/u. Max 200 per player. First 5 LM ads get filled, set the rating to A so I can see them easily. Payment time can be up to 10 days, the water gets flown to the CX in 24h [31-May-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if not sold that js [31-May-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: is [31-May-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** left.* [31-May-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** joined.* [31-May-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1 down, 4 to go [31-May-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lithandi** joined.* [31-May-22 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edeamn** joined.* [31-May-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I'll add another 3 packages of water with the same conditions [31-May-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: So 600 available at 16/u. same conditions as with neke's [31-May-22 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: noone taking shipments from BEN to KAT, i have one still live 1500 easy money :-) [31-May-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xMavOx** joined.* [31-May-22 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zekki** left.* [31-May-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Never thought I’d have trouble selling cheap water on the LM lol [31-May-22 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: People are running RIGs here on Katoa aren’t they.. [31-May-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khorus_Luperkal** joined.* [31-May-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: i have a small rat and dw order on lm if anyone has some to spare [31-May-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: neke put DW labels on your water and it'll sell ;) [31-May-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: lolll [31-May-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mackenziesmyth1** left.* [31-May-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exusiai** joined.* [31-May-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmiddySmall** left.* [31-May-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jenobi** left.* [31-May-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***__cookie__** joined.* [31-May-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jcrumpton137** left.* [31-May-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Texinio** left.* [31-May-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skjelly_fetti6** left.* [31-May-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***olaf-hahn-79** joined.* [31-May-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DataSmileGig** joined.* [31-May-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: What are the pro's of being apart of a corporation? [31-May-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: technically- just HQ building with 10% production bonus. and corp channel which makes it easier to coordinate and cooperate with corp members [31-May-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: depending on the corp also stable prices to sell and buy stuff availebility of loans and it transforms this game into a MMO what would a good MMO be without a guild/clan/corp ;) [31-May-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unidding** joined.* [31-May-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hexnaught** joined.* [31-May-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Badge_2812** left.* [31-May-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tralen** left.* [31-May-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: With or without a corp, working together with others on projects can have a massive benefit. That way each base can specialize and stack experts and you can share the savings [31-May-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jodaaa** left.* [31-May-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thank you all for the input! [31-May-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KotHN** joined.* [31-May-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone need shipments from Katoa to Umbra? Ship leaving very soon. Message me for arrangements asap. [31-May-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: Made some ads for ~100t each at 10/t [31-May-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: if you want to pick some of those that would be nice! [31-May-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: sorry 8/t not 10 [31-May-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ship has sailed [31-May-22 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapitolGaming** joined.* [31-May-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EbonX** joined.* [31-May-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am at Benten Station about to head back to Katoa. I have 319m3 and 218t left to fill. [31-May-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: price/t? [31-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: posted the 218t for 7.5/t [31-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: That is perfect. [31-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: thx! [31-May-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: no problem [31-May-22 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ship has left the station [31-May-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AideFinchew** left.* [31-May-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hellothere123** joined.* [31-May-22 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EbonX** left.* [31-May-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sadpan** left.* [31-May-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yebi** joined.* [01-Jun-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mewtwo** joined.* [01-Jun-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExtaZzZ** left.* [01-Jun-22 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaptainKasoy** joined.* [01-Jun-22 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meavic** joined.* [01-Jun-22 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SerAri** joined.* [01-Jun-22 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Very lucrative offer for 8 TRU on LM [01-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cradboard** joined.* [01-Jun-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LLTDmad** joined.* [01-Jun-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Got some Hydrogen for sell! 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[01-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user73e85ae342** left.* [01-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm just posting the prices elsewhere; decide for yourself where to buy it and if it's worth a short trip to Umbra or not [01-Jun-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there's also this :D [01-Jun-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 500 H for 21000.0ICA (42.0 ea) on Hydron VH-331i, 12 jumps from Katoa [01-Jun-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: too far, but still :P [01-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IAMGOOGLE** joined.* [01-Jun-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user25a6915d81** left.* [01-Jun-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfee798b2d** left.* [01-Jun-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xpldrgmr** left.* [01-Jun-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laximium** left.* [01-Jun-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***__cookie__** left.* [01-Jun-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: posted a bunch of shipping ads on Katoa and Umbra @250t towards Prox (4/t) and EW (5,2/t) [01-Jun-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: anyone need anything shipped BEN-> Katoa i have 400t free [01-Jun-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***haystack** joined.* [01-Jun-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pip626** joined.* [01-Jun-22 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: /me sure could use one of those 250t/m3 shipping jobs to BEN about now... *hint hint* :P [01-Jun-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buddha_Box** joined.* [01-Jun-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: i missed them [01-Jun-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buddha_Box** left.* [01-Jun-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user79b36ef45f** left.* [02-Jun-22 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user60021856ed** left.* [02-Jun-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user76dc939f33** left.* [02-Jun-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST and CLI available a few hours away on LM UV-072c [02-Jun-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leonard132** joined.* [02-Jun-22 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere8a26e34ae** left.* [02-Jun-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braver** joined.* [02-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siruss** joined.* [02-Jun-22 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skywalker0312** joined.* [02-Jun-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap ALO also posted to LM KW-358b [02-Jun-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 360 units at 60u [02-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: less than 24hr round trip [02-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MostlySilent** joined.* [02-Jun-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eagle4000** joined.* [02-Jun-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coke_Jaw** joined.* [02-Jun-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BunBao** left.* [02-Jun-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deadknife3** left.* [02-Jun-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***remi249** left.* [02-Jun-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arya_Fireheart** left.* [02-Jun-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Outerreach** left.* [02-Jun-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***awesome_lewis207** left.* [02-Jun-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxN** left.* [02-Jun-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wow wo just emptied Ben Station of C? and do you need anymore? [02-Jun-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: I thought you were making it...? [02-Jun-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sorry i meant who not wo, someone just bought ALL the C from ben station, ill haveot get more there asap lol [02-Jun-22 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: shipment fromKAT to BEN up on LM [02-Jun-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: it's on its way [02-Jun-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Revolt** joined.* [02-Jun-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***poojansshukla** left.* [02-Jun-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [02-Jun-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liebe** left.* [02-Jun-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IosefAugustus** left.* [02-Jun-22 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mya** joined.* [02-Jun-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordCola** left.* [02-Jun-22 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: There are a couple C ads on LM now [02-Jun-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pringl3s** joined.* [02-Jun-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RemGidrine** left.* [02-Jun-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***moroni** left.* [02-Jun-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NETSI** left.* [02-Jun-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Astroblade95** left.* [02-Jun-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Does anyone have 26 HE3 I can purchase right now? [02-Jun-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: nevermind. [03-Jun-22 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Valken** joined.* [03-Jun-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcanii_JP** joined.* [03-Jun-22 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone selling PWO? 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The flight is only 3-6 hours each way, it’s closer than Umbra ;) [03-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Closer than Proxion too for those flying there for LST [03-Jun-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWurm** joined.* [03-Jun-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sp33d** left.* [03-Jun-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***addama** left.* [03-Jun-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user36e50eb8a9** left.* [03-Jun-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11232cca63** left.* [03-Jun-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Araati** joined.* [03-Jun-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercc173cacd6** left.* [03-Jun-22 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd7e5665f47** left.* [03-Jun-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaleFire** joined.* [03-Jun-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user211c553963** left.* [03-Jun-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apolmas** joined.* [03-Jun-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PeeKaBoo** joined.* [03-Jun-22 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user404cbda281** left.* [03-Jun-22 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user838f2ff888** left.* [03-Jun-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tylerXMD** left.* [03-Jun-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraad1ecfb00** left.* [04-Jun-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***datcat31** joined.* [04-Jun-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jonndo** joined.* [04-Jun-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GRVBBS** left.* [04-Jun-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fliegenstube** joined.* [04-Jun-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scrtgntwlf** left.* [04-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Anyone selling NL? 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[04-Jun-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: yeah i was looking at those [04-Jun-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grandpa_Canuck** deleted this message.* [04-Jun-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: and we are away [04-Jun-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How long will your flight take? [04-Jun-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HolyRomanVampire** left.* [04-Jun-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: i just left [04-Jun-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am doing 5hr runs right now. [04-Jun-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I just took off too. full load 5hr to Ben sta [04-Jun-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: i am flying out sys but needed to stop at station [04-Jun-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***death13a** left.* [04-Jun-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Minze** left.* [04-Jun-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Araati** left.* [04-Jun-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xerofury** left.* [04-Jun-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crib474** left.* [04-Jun-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uvox** joined.* [04-Jun-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marxoo** joined.* [04-Jun-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***datcat31** left.* [04-Jun-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***karma3185** left.* [04-Jun-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.Maker1** left.* [04-Jun-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedHotKomet** left.* [04-Jun-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheKommissar** left.* [04-Jun-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marj00j** left.* [04-Jun-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-M-** left.* [04-Jun-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aoikiri** left.* [04-Jun-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: 5hr runs sounds expensive [04-Jun-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: time is money! [04-Jun-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @xiq I am doing 5 runs in just over 50 hrs that are 3,000 each way. [04-Jun-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I make all my own fuel so trust me I am making money [04-Jun-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Anyone need anything brough back from Benten Station? I will be landing in 5 hours [04-Jun-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I can handle 337t and 300m3 [04-Jun-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Please message me before posting, thank you [04-Jun-22 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I can now handle 275t and 266m3 Space is filling up. I am garunteeing a 10hr delivery. Message before posting please. [04-Jun-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: My ship is officially full for the return run. Thank you all for your trust in SmittyVentures. [04-Jun-22 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: There's only one Smitty I trust... and he was #1 [04-Jun-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShiCav** left.* [05-Jun-22 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***riley.swanson** left.* [05-Jun-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Markxal** joined.* [05-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lordtankalot** left.* [05-Jun-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: is anyone making RTA? 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[05-Jun-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: much* [05-Jun-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: pmd you [05-Jun-22 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***skywalker20202020** left.* [05-Jun-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OSOGR** left.* [05-Jun-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 100 BDE available , dm to discuss deal [05-Jun-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have a ship at ben station waiting to return to Katoa. 490t and m3 available. 5/u [05-Jun-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Master_Stiemie** left.* [05-Jun-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nullstring** joined.* [05-Jun-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kazumikazuyu** left.* [05-Jun-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wise__guy** left.* [05-Jun-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thepuzzler93** joined.* [05-Jun-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Somain** left.* [05-Jun-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: ATTENTION KATOA: I am making my last flight for this week. I have 487m3 and 485t left empty. Contact me if you need anything shipped in the next 3 hrs. [05-Jun-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ship is launching 1 hour early. [05-Jun-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: to where? [05-Jun-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Katoa [05-Jun-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: from ben [05-Jun-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: need something? [05-Jun-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh nah [05-Jun-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: check out LM UV-072c a second player is now listing LST cheaply [05-Jun-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: arranged for half loads [05-Jun-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: This is my last shipment before vacation. [05-Jun-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And manufacturers I have put a block sale of SIO.CI1 up, it’s not the cheapest but with cheap LST you can make some well priced MCG [05-Jun-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thunderpatty** left.* [05-Jun-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: [05-Jun-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC has been largely sorted thanks to donations from @Knarfaction and @Pantalaimon [05-Jun-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Im just short 1,000 MCG for which I have posted to the LM [05-Jun-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: can't fill the whole 1000, but I could sell 200 [05-Jun-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If it’s not filled tomorrow when I’m back online I’ll hit you up [05-Jun-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirskimore1** left.* [05-Jun-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Varneshi** left.* [05-Jun-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QuantumSp00k** left.* [05-Jun-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***henderb** joined.* [05-Jun-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: and its filled ^^ [05-Jun-22 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaidLeber** joined.* [05-Jun-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ian_the_Great** left.* [05-Jun-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Barek_Obamer** left.* [05-Jun-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnyA** left.* [06-Jun-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iRac** joined.* [06-Jun-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***h.** joined.* [06-Jun-22 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fraggle** left.* [06-Jun-22 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frilanski** joined.* [06-Jun-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XavBell38** left.* [06-Jun-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ikmuk** left.* [06-Jun-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alt-Trade** joined.* [06-Jun-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***magnoroboto** left.* [06-Jun-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hisokus** joined.* [06-Jun-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raubkater** joined.* [06-Jun-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andirion** left.* [06-Jun-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***St0rm** left.* [06-Jun-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackjack0929** joined.* [06-Jun-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragon1** left.* [06-Jun-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IgorArrrr** joined.* [06-Jun-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc0d6e7dd5e** left.* [06-Jun-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dazynersstudio** joined.* [06-Jun-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tarrin_chapman** left.* [06-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wetbox** left.* [06-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trazyn_the_Collector** left.* [06-Jun-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dserver** joined.* [06-Jun-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnyBlaze** joined.* [06-Jun-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Butxot** joined.* [06-Jun-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mystic999** left.* [06-Jun-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: OVE for 115CIS each? seems way to high [06-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: If anyone has some at a better price, I'm in the market for about 30 OVE. I'm pretty sure my last order isn't going to be fufilled after paying [06-Jun-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I'd recommend not buying consumables on the LM unless you are in a pinch [06-Jun-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I try to sell all basic consumables at the lowest cx offer, so if you need good prices you can reach out to me [06-Jun-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: ANyone need anything shipped from EW, got about 300m/t free [06-Jun-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Radioactove4001** joined.* [06-Jun-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eat_my_REDACTED** joined.* [06-Jun-22 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Node** left.* [06-Jun-22 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***madpraxis** joined.* [06-Jun-22 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luckiest** left.* [06-Jun-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***randomgmail** joined.* [07-Jun-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Derduher** left.* [07-Jun-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***madpraxis** left.* [07-Jun-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hello everyone. I have 16 MHL.CI1 coming available in 17 hours on Katoa and I'm selling them by silent auction. If you are interested, please direct message me your bid via COM or Discord. The winner is the person who offers the highest bid, but the final price will be the second highest bid received (So if you bid 1,000 but the next highest was 800, you win and pay 800). Bids are open for 36 hours from now. [07-Jun-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jamsjelly** joined.* [07-Jun-22 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amokkk** joined.* [07-Jun-22 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: New ads for LST.CI1 posted to LM UV-072c. Two ads for 180 units at 65u. [07-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have four competitive bids for the MHL so far and will likely bring forward closing time to T+6h. [07-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ciaone** joined.* [07-Jun-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***camperking** left.* [07-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone here running an ASM? [07-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or perhaps more importantly, who here would like to :) [07-Jun-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: not much TI on the market, without first securing TI supply it would be difficult [07-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: TI supply isnt an issue [07-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if you can build an HB4 and ASM [07-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It will be arranged [07-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK. well, I'm not going into metallurgy, I have other plans :) [07-Jun-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not sure if anyone uses the stuff, but I've put 200 units of NCS on the LM [07-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: As well as buys for H & C respectively :) [07-Jun-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marshimus** joined.* [07-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: can someone spare 5 MED i have a ad up [07-Jun-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***azraels** left.* [07-Jun-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yourshadow** joined.* [07-Jun-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yourshadow** left.* [07-Jun-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yourshadow** joined.* [07-Jun-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CdnBass**: Looking to buy 50 DW for 3,000 CIS, i did post an ad. 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[08-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I will have some in ~7h, I can sell it back then if you need [08-Jun-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nah all good [08-Jun-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got some up on the CX :P [08-Jun-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: in safe keeping [08-Jun-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user26d1376cec** left.* [08-Jun-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8ab56d274c** left.* [08-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zBETEPz** joined.* [08-Jun-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kernel-Panic** left.* [08-Jun-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khorus_Luperkal** left.* [08-Jun-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MeButtons** left.* [08-Jun-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @neke86 if you need OFF i have 2200 in stock [08-Jun-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Had a oops and could use 20 H20 and 15 H. Orders placed if people can help. Thanks in advance. [08-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CdnBass**: Filled the H2O contract. Always glad to help a fellow Canuck. [08-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Like thanks eh. [08-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: And sorry I had to post the ad eh. [08-Jun-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CdnBass**: no worries, Eh. [08-Jun-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @neke86 Sorry ship is in route already [08-Jun-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreyIllumi** joined.* [08-Jun-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DataSmileGig** left.* [08-Jun-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: If anyone needs anything shipped to ANT just msg me, i got a ship that's going out to it in not too long. 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Is there anyone here I can talk to about buying a ship or the components to build one? [09-Jun-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: STL or FTL? [09-Jun-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: FTL preferably [09-Jun-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Altho i have 3 bases here in this system so if i can't get my hands on an FTL then an STL might be considered [09-Jun-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah if you have 3-4m I can find an FTL supplier and you can join a weeks/months long queue :) [09-Jun-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Haha, you make it sound so tempting :D [09-Jun-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: @neck86 i've actually been wondering... why is it weeks-long? [09-Jun-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: @neke86* [09-Jun-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Because the corps that produce are building the ships for their members first :). And the production line is quite complex. [09-Jun-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: What would be the pricetag on an STL with medium cargo bay? [09-Jun-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GlitchedSalvation** left.* [09-Jun-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There’s a queue for them and they’re difficult to build [09-Jun-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: STL + MCB I suspect 500k + the cost of the MCB [09-Jun-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 100 BDE available, Dm to order [09-Jun-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @neke86 its actualy a little more becouse you wil need a CQS instead of a CQT so its probably 700k-800k [09-Jun-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah nice, I’d have guessed 800-900 [09-Jun-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so right answe wrong working [09-Jun-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: 280mΒ³/430t free space on my ship flying BEN to KAT in 10min. Let me know if you have anythin to transport. [09-Jun-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: but that 700k-800k is at KAWA corp price idk what it would cost at free market prices [09-Jun-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you might be better off just building a 500t stl ship and saveing up for a 2000t ftl ship afterwards [09-Jun-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***olaf-hahn-79** left.* [09-Jun-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE AND ELECTIONS: [09-Jun-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hello everyone! A new election cycle has begun. [09-Jun-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: After looking at your competition I have concluded your chances for re-election are looking dim indeed. [09-Jun-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehe [09-Jun-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m running again on a similar platform as previous terms: maintaining and strong and very well resourced POPI up to 20-30 days buffer at all times; support and foster the manufacturing COGC while reinvesting extensively back into local non-manufacturing industry (I think my carbon friends and the local fuel barons can attest). I’ll continue the growth in our engineering population and have contributed and am supporting an electronics chain to keep the ART POPI full. In the last term I funded local warehouse extensions (you can get three now) and major donors built the ART. [09-Jun-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: The Katoa Carbon Consortium will continue to support Neke86's Governance [09-Jun-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve invested in a few new players, usually with minimal or no interest repayments, and I regularly supply cheap and efficient system transport and shipping :) [09-Jun-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you KCC :D [09-Jun-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: you're welcome, ill await the brown envelope [09-Jun-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: I'm happy with the engineer situation :) [09-Jun-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dserver**: I guess I'm a fuel baron now ... [09-Jun-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh damn I forgot to add that I’ve been working on opening a local LST tap that is coming to fruition as we speak. I’ll be bringing a lot of LST from UV-072c to Katoa and Benten CX go benefit our manufacturers, constructors, and chem guys [09-Jun-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That was a substantial capital investment to help alleviate the price - it will take more time but getting there slowly [09-Jun-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone got OVEs at a reasonable price? 115/u is a bit steep [09-Jun-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CdnBass**: this is cool, we get to vote on Leadership of the planet. [09-Jun-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @joekingdom I’ll fill any smallish bid at sensible prices for most consumables [09-Jun-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 50/u for OVE would be okay? [09-Jun-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Perfect [09-Jun-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I check LM a few times a day so just post what you need :) [09-Jun-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Thank you! [09-Jun-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Any time, not just because it’s election period ;) [09-Jun-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: haha [09-Jun-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Little batch of LST on the LM [09-Jun-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you got my vote neke [09-Jun-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks! [09-Jun-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: anyone selling KOM? [09-Jun-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mobius69** joined.* [09-Jun-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KBT** joined.* [09-Jun-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KBT** left.* [09-Jun-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KBT** joined.* [09-Jun-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IDontNeedBatman** joined.* [09-Jun-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bradleyjhall29** joined.* [09-Jun-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ebaretta** joined.* [09-Jun-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pip626** left.* [09-Jun-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: KOM.CI1 is pretty competative :) [09-Jun-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I'm in the market for BSE, got an ad posted but if it's not enough you can dm me [10-Jun-22 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I am heading to Benten Station in 2 hours, has someone something to transport [10-Jun-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsFortes** joined.* [10-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can anyone sell me some O ? [10-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ads on the LM at 60/u [10-Jun-22 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Hi neke, sry no O in my Base Inventory. Not the business i am in [10-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All good [10-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will let the pioneers know there is no more breathing for the rest of the day [10-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I fly from Katoa to Benten Station. Start in 30 minutes. 380 t and 380 m free space to fill. someone need something to carry? [10-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Pioneers need O? [10-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No hahaha [10-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They know to bring their own if they want to breathe [10-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I supply rations, drinking water, overalls, some padded overalls, and caffeine to keep them working [10-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but breathing is on them [10-Jun-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you shocked me for a little moment. i thought i missed some supplies for them. [10-Jun-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I have to fly to the station and back to sell products and pick up some raw materials. shall i bring 20 O for you? [10-Jun-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I;'m hoping someone can fill it in the next hours [10-Jun-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and have ship myself coming later anyway thank you [10-Jun-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and your ship already has your needed oxy? [10-Jun-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It will do yes thanks [10-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i just wanted to help out my gouvernor :D [10-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ^_^ appreciated [10-Jun-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Filled [10-Jun-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank yoU! [10-Jun-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: No biggie gov [10-Jun-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leonard132** left.* [10-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sonicus83** left.* [10-Jun-22 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There a bit of cheap Iodine on the LM (3 * 600/u) and 60+ units hitting the CX in an hour or so for those interested [10-Jun-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThJester** joined.* [10-Jun-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braver** left.* [10-Jun-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siruss** left.* [10-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Neke, yesterday you bought stl fuel via lm. need more? [10-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a large order up for 5,000 units, waiting on @Sintheras or @Rasdwatrium to find it :) [10-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: err @Rasd [10-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah but only 7/u :-/ [10-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I am new and I need the money :D [10-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I took another batch of yours [10-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but not in volume :P [10-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: How can they produce for that low cost? is my spreadsheet wrong? what...how... [10-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: economies of scale I guess [10-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're extracting your own H, I think the price drops rapidly [10-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: even more if you have a corporation selling you cheap consumables [10-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But Katie haven't hydrogen. I need a second base on a near planet and this is out of my financial range [10-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes, that comes with scale [10-Jun-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you'll get there :) [10-Jun-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can also try buying H off the nearest gas giant, CB-282d [10-Jun-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There are some helpful players out there who might sell bulk [10-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Is there a command to find planets on the map? [10-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't really use the map sorry not sure [10-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: okay then ... where is cb-282d? [10-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: type PLI CB-282d in the buffer and you will get information about the planet [10-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: a that's the grey system up there [10-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i am one of the big H supplier of the Ben Space. How much H do you need per day? [10-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: thanks Nicster- PLI is the command. thanks [10-Jun-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I started fresh, I have only 3 Refinery at the moment. but the will to grow fast [10-Jun-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: this is so embarrassing. At the moment 65 hydrogen per day. I think you will not make it for this low amount [10-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: He can make it pretty cheap ;) [10-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: that sounds ambiguous [10-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ;) [10-Jun-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2 * 180 LST available on LM UV-072c [10-Jun-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eagle4000** left.* [10-Jun-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: You can contact me per DM and we can try to arrange something. [10-Jun-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PimaH** joined.* [10-Jun-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KBT** left.* [10-Jun-22 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadowithe** left.* [10-Jun-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m a bit surprised no small manufacturers are buying the SIO I block traded on the CX so people could have a shot at making decent margins on MCG via a BMP.. [10-Jun-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I'm not as cool as you @neke86 [10-Jun-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well, now's your chance [10-Jun-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ive bought a warehouse full to put towards my new mcg prod [10-Jun-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to Etherwind? [10-Jun-22 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UniCorp** joined.* [10-Jun-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Revolt** left.* [10-Jun-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***liki1** joined.* [10-Jun-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mya** left.* [10-Jun-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Les_Nessman** joined.* [10-Jun-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST ads posted on LM UV-072c again, please pay attention to the contract dates as they give an indication of when the LST will be available. 3 day contracts are ready now-24h and allow 2 days for your shipping, the 4 and 5 day contracts are one day later. [10-Jun-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So the LST is available in (ContractTime - 2 days) [10-Jun-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If people want CLI I can also discuss shiploads of that [10-Jun-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zer02** left.* [11-Jun-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Valken** left.* [11-Jun-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoMechanics** joined.* [11-Jun-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Lst is Limestone right? [11-Jun-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Good Morning Neke btw [11-Jun-22 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Torinarg** left.* [11-Jun-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***denlev3** left.* [11-Jun-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MystiskMarsvin** left.* [11-Jun-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fanres9** left.* [11-Jun-22 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***green.hand** joined.* [11-Jun-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST is indeed limestone :) [11-Jun-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and good morninf [11-Jun-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iv_bxm** joined.* [11-Jun-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hello Katoan's how was ya'lls week? [11-Jun-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Let's call it "interesting" and yours? [11-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I spent the week with 20 teenagers 16 girls and 4 boys out at camp in the hill country of Texas [11-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Oh. Who won the gender fight? Girls dissed the boys until they wear makeup? [11-Jun-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: No fighting. Was really good [11-Jun-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Really? [11-Jun-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Just sore from all the hiking and swimming and competitions. [11-Jun-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Was it a camping trip? or a blockhouse? [11-Jun-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: camping [11-Jun-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: like summer camp [11-Jun-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: slept in cabins [11-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Voluntary or is this your job? [11-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: volunter [11-Jun-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: couldn’t pay anyone enough right? ;) [11-Jun-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Just normal kids or "special" kids out of bad families or city parts? [11-Jun-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: bit of a slow week for my biz this week, but good timing as loads of new stock to book in and list! 200+ model kits [11-Jun-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: It was our church youth group. They had their drama, but they were really good. [11-Jun-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: There was another church youth group with 300 kids and I did not envy them. They had police out twice and an ambulance out 1 time. [11-Jun-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: They had broken into a 3 buildings and stolen stuff, and one kid went to the ER for substance abuse. [11-Jun-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I was glad I was not part of that group. [11-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @karr1981 I was showing my son your website and he thought all those models were so cool. [11-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I am new. What are 200+ model kits? [11-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Like models like cars [11-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Can I see that website too? [11-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: plastic / resin assembly kits, that you build and display [11-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: www.severnviewhobbies.co.uk [11-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Star Trek [11-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: how cool [11-Jun-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep, i do lots of scifi, actually justl isting some ST Voyager Delta flyer kits [11-Jun-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: as we speak hehe [11-Jun-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: My son kept asking does he have the International Space Station [11-Jun-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: He is 4 [11-Jun-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hes got good taste, bit of a rare kit now , Revell do one that comes up every so often in auctions etc [11-Jun-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am not putting the ISS together for him. LOL I have no patience for it. I would get it for him to do when he gets older. LOL [11-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have a kit that is all the rockets the US used up to the shuttle. [11-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: nice [11-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: redstone, mercury, and apollo [11-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m sorry but if you’re not modeling WW2 fighter planes is it even worth doing? [11-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im trying to get the various space X rockets as kits to sell, but no official ones i tihnk so ill have to get them fomr a small independant producer [11-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: redstone, mercury and apollo aren't the rockets [11-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: they are the space capsules [11-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: sshh gov go back to your rocking chair [11-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehe [11-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: "ooh look honey, vie built ANOTHER spitfire [11-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Those were the rocket types. Redstone was originally a missile they put a capsule on for a human to fit in. Then Mercury was designed for a human capsule. Then Apollo was to send man to the moon and eventually mars. [11-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Redstone yeah. But Apollo sits on a Saturn I, IB and V rocket [11-Jun-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yes [11-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: And Mercury first sits on the Redstone rocket and later on... [11-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Was it the Atlas rocket? [11-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I yeah atlas [11-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: redstone was not very large rocket. I have seen and touched it. [11-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: actually I have touched all 3 [11-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: So, Redstone, Atlas and Saturn were the rockets, mercury and apollo the capsules [11-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: and those F1 engines are INSANE [11-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: touched in a museum? [11-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I live in Houston. Johnson Space Center has all of them. [11-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i am on the wrong site of the Atlantic. I envy you [11-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ya'll have ESA [11-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: we only have the ariane [11-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking forwardto the Space Port opening in Cardiff / Wales, should end up hosting some launches here in UK [11-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: GNAH [11-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: now where uk is no longer member of the EU, it is a pain in the arse to travel to uk ;) [11-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or is it in cornwall sorry, but funded partly by cardiff company [11-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: wonder if there will be regular flights from spaceport to spaceport [11-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah dont try to come her,e we may deport you Rwanda (a genuine thing happening now!! :-( ) [11-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: What the hell. Why to Rwanda? [11-Jun-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: dunno, some inter country agreement [11-Jun-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i tihnk you are safe if you have a passport, but for illegals coming overo n boats, being put on flights straight to rwanda [11-Jun-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: crazy [11-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: got to go to the supermarket. see you later (hopefully) [11-Jun-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ClockwiseSymphony** joined.* [11-Jun-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vitus** joined.* [11-Jun-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XXXReaperXXX755** joined.* [11-Jun-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf0df574f70** left.* [11-Jun-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flabblegast** joined.* [11-Jun-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coke_Jaw** left.* [11-Jun-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***reiconrooc** left.* [11-Jun-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Les_Nessman** left.* [11-Jun-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Valid** joined.* [11-Jun-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***haystack** left.* [11-Jun-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usereceabaad97** left.* [11-Jun-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***timzon** joined.* [11-Jun-22 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lexander** joined.* [11-Jun-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user995f87028c** left.* [11-Jun-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shul** joined.* [11-Jun-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3650ab007a** left.* [11-Jun-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaleFire** left.* [11-Jun-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Wow lots of new ppl [11-Jun-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pencil** left.* [11-Jun-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scrof** joined.* [11-Jun-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes! [11-Jun-22 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: How long playing before you guys don't consider someone a new player? [11-Jun-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’d say 60-90 days [11-Jun-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but it depends [11-Jun-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PeeKaBoo** left.* [11-Jun-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: really i’d say a full 500 area base [11-Jun-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So at 48 days and an under 500 base I am still a newbie, ok got it. [11-Jun-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilverWolf022010** joined.* [11-Jun-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Heck, I'm at 300 days and I still feel like a newbie lol [11-Jun-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vixen** left.* [11-Jun-22 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I mean.. if you played an intense 48 days and understand the game and have trading partners then you’re probably not a newbie [11-Jun-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: alao it depends, are you using the term with a derogatory reference, or just to mean a β€œnew player” [11-Jun-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: because compared to people around >365d, 48 days is newer but it’s barely β€œfresh on the ground” [11-Jun-22 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ya, was just interested in how people playing here since the near start looked at it. I mean it as in new player [11-Jun-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Over 400 units LST available and ready on LM UV-072c, select from the existing sell ads :) [12-Jun-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: DW order up on LM if someone can cover it. [12-Jun-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Done [12-Jun-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Thanks, mis-timed that. [12-Jun-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meavic** left.* [12-Jun-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tooley** joined.* [12-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The COGC is arranged so don’t go donating when it opens in a few hours please. [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harx** joined.* [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Camyoyo** joined.* [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i fly from katoa to benten station. 298t and 298cm free. Someone need something to be shipped? [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: depature in t minus 62 minutes [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: No one? [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krabjuk** joined.* [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No sorry [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sunday morning, probably everyone asleep [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Good Day Neke [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ahoy :) [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ahoy. we have a sunny day today. so my wife told my I have to pull weeds in the garden today [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Tell them it's a wild native garden [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no need to pull anything [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i vote for a pool and a outdoor kitchen in the garden so that there is no space for weed I have to pull out [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But somehow, my wife has a bigger voting power as I have [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just like a PrUn democracy ;) [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ludvvigh** joined.* [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Hi all Katoans, COGC is coming up in three days. If you would like to sell me COGC supplies, please DM me. I need to purchase up to 1,500 DW (55/u), 2,000 MGC (16/u), 2,000 PE (3.0/u), and 1,000 RAT (55/u). [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It totals 175,500 CIS. If you wish to supply all of it, I'll pay a neat 180,000 with a magic RAT :) [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: yeah, I would sponsor that [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: that RAT better be shittin' gold tho! [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah you're keen to take the lot? [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll put up 1 CIS buy ads for the precise amounts on 5 day contracts [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @Rasd so thats why you bought the 1k RAT from me ^^ [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: or do you need another 1000 RAT now ;) [12-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDoctorK** joined.* [12-Jun-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: oh i was looking forward to that :( ... putting my PE and MCG back ito the closet [12-Jun-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's always next time :D [12-Jun-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can help fund the engineering program if you like :P [12-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: good thing i have a 16500 t closet on Katoa [12-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: sure post a golden rat [12-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh nice, 3 STOs? [12-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have way to much cis again XD [12-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [12-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: its my central hub so 3 STO is some nice quality of life [12-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks for that [12-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Once the tax dividend comes in I'll post a rough P&L snapshot to Discord [12-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: With the tax increases I am now covering the ART upkeep so still running a manageable deficit [12-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: P&L??? [12-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: profit and loss [12-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: ah ok [12-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well, it's just a Loss Statement [12-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: thanks [12-Jun-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apolder** joined.* [12-Jun-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr_Unicorn** left.* [12-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have a quesiton [12-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Have a buy up for a little 50-H2O & 20-DW. Help in averting a crisis by filling would be appreciated. [12-Jun-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: There is a shipment with 787t is there a way to split that shipment up or no? [12-Jun-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i think you need a bigger ship [12-Jun-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: with a bigger cargo load [12-Jun-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Maybe I can just ductape it to the sides of the ship. LOL [12-Jun-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: that would be a great option [12-Jun-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: DW will be ice when you arrive [12-Jun-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: You could overload your ship with the higher chance of loosing the extra t in space [12-Jun-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: or a random amout to loose [12-Jun-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yeah [12-Jun-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and how was your weekend smitty? [12-Jun-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I got back from camp late friday, worked yesterday, and headed to church in 30 min. Not bad, recovering from camp faster than I thought. [12-Jun-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you worked on saturday after one week camping with kids? [12-Jun-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nice recovery rate. i would fall to sleep for a week [12-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Dude you have NO IDEA [12-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: What time zone are you in? [12-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Europe [12-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ah [12-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yesterday was saturday for me [12-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: now i am on sunday evening [12-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i have no idea from what? ^^ [12-Jun-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That is a phrase hard to explain, but emphasizing how right you were that he had a busy week [12-Jun-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ah that phrase, in german it is a little bit others, depending on pronuncing it [12-Jun-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But i thought your kids was nice like lambs [12-Jun-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: So Thursday I woke up at 5 am (the beds SUCK for older people). That night finally got all the kids showered and it was just the pastor and I (only 2 male leaders) needing to shower. [12-Jun-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: the plumbing clogs and the septic backs up [12-Jun-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: at 3:30 am we had to wake everyone up and move them to another room. [12-Jun-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: ALL my clothes and toiletries and towel were in the flood. [12-Jun-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahahahaha [12-Jun-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hail satan [12-Jun-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ;) [12-Jun-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I had to wear the same clothes for the drive back in a van full of girls and no shower. [12-Jun-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: and on 3 hrs of sleep for a 5 hr drive. [12-Jun-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Voluntary sucks [12-Jun-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ;-D [12-Jun-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Nah, my time in the Navy prepped me for that. It was an adventure. Always have to look to the positive. [12-Jun-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: always looking on the bright site of life [12-Jun-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Oh, the wonderful memories & laughs you will have about it from now on. [12-Jun-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Better than looking at the dark side. We made so many CRAPPY jokes about it LOL [12-Jun-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: plus why let one night ruin an AMAZING week. [12-Jun-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I got to stay up all night with my absolute best friend. [12-Jun-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: because they habe cookies on the dark site!!! [12-Jun-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: LOL [12-Jun-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Anyone need anything shipped from Benten Station? [12-Jun-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: from the station to katoa or which direction? [12-Jun-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have a ship at Benten Station [12-Jun-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i now have a storage on station, it is brand new. i have to look if there is something that i can ship [12-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: do i have to post a single add for every material i want to be shipped or can i sum them up in one add? [12-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am not sure. [12-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: if you do, do them as the cheapest cause I will pick them up right now. [12-Jun-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I think each has to be done individually [12-Jun-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I could be wrong [12-Jun-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Post in on Katoa. I am watching it. [12-Jun-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ah in katoa, not the station. second [12-Jun-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: more people watch the satation [12-Jun-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: was it right? [12-Jun-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will launch when I get back it will take about 2 hours. [12-Jun-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i was not sure about the codes for the station and our planet [12-Jun-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will message you when I launch and land [12-Jun-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: do i have to click something when you land? [12-Jun-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ya'll have a good rest of the day. I should be back in about 3 hrs, then I will launch. [12-Jun-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: to get my stuff into my base storage or all goes automatic? [12-Jun-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: should go automatically. You will get a notice [12-Jun-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Post on Katoa so I get the fees ;) [12-Jun-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fees on the station get evaporates [12-Jun-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and it costs more [12-Jun-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PARADOX9512** joined.* [12-Jun-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dserver**: So neke you are like an IRS? [12-Jun-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dserver**: I dont care who the IRS sends, I am not paying taxes! [12-Jun-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: is that you wesley snipes? [12-Jun-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: lol [12-Jun-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: IRS? [12-Jun-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Heading back to Katoa from HRT with a half empty hold. Anyone need anything shipped or bought there? [12-Jun-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i haven't the right currency to buy something on HRT. Sry [12-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Yes [12-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: i'll setup a contract [12-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: it's a small amount of freight [12-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Great [12-Jun-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Contracts up [12-Jun-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Ooooh, wait your going from HOR?? [12-Jun-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Yes, Hortus Station [12-Jun-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: oooh, okey, yeah, no sadly i don't have anything from there sorry, i miss read. XD [12-Jun-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: np, thanks for trying. [12-Jun-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I usually do have stuff from there but not today. [12-Jun-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what was the command for the currency exchange market? [12-Jun-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: FX [12-Jun-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: FXOB CIS/ICA [12-Jun-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: or whatever currency pair you need [12-Jun-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Thanks! [12-Jun-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackjazz** joined.* [12-Jun-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @dserver not entirely like the IRS :) We don't take any % of your revenue, just a transaction fee off the LM and production fee based on the labour caste - however much profit you make off the worker is yours to keep [12-Jun-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And for clarity, the Katoan government does not "send" anyone to collect. We are not barbarians. [12-Jun-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what is an IRS? the equivalent of "Steuereintreiber"? [12-Jun-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But people who are non-compliant have a very high rate of airlock malfunctions, docking clamp accidents, oxygen bottle mismatches [12-Jun-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: lol [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Internal Revenue Service [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: tax colletors [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: that is a threat .D [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: A threat? [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Don't be silly [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've built so many extra Safety Stations and Infirmaries [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you threaten us with accidents :D [12-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No I just make observations! [12-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah yeah [12-Jun-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Same madness like Putin, mh? ;D [12-Jun-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahahah [12-Jun-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: None of my opponents have ever fallen out of a window or contracted radiation sickness thankyou [12-Jun-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it was just a joke, okay? [12-Jun-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's okay you've given me an idea [12-Jun-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: people can have FTL reactor shielding failures [12-Jun-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: damn and I bought drinking water from you, urgh [12-Jun-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahahah [12-Jun-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: with polonium or something [12-Jun-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Einsteinum [12-Jun-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MuricaLLC** joined.* [12-Jun-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am back. Anyone need shipping from Benten Station contact me for how much weight I can provide. Once I launch it will be just over 2 hours. [12-Jun-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BEN > KAT? [12-Jun-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yed [12-Jun-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yes [12-Jun-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: right now I only have 46t and 40m3 in it. [12-Jun-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: will you make him full? [12-Jun-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Turns out I need shipping elsewhere sorry [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will launch full or not, just want to make sure no one else needs something thispped [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: shipped not thispped [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ah neke, do i have to make a contract of every good I want to ship? [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes :( [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: One of the failings of the game [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: or can I sum uo some goods in one shipping cont? [12-Jun-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: okay [12-Jun-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Smitty, do you fly "regulary"? [12-Jun-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yes sir I do. [12-Jun-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Is it the price for shipping that is hard to cover? [12-Jun-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Just post for 1 day I will fly you for free this time. I understand [12-Jun-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: This time a have a bunch of 20 goods that I want to ship and my ship is in BEN in a few mins [12-Jun-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But if you fly regulary, next time I have no need to send my own ship and I will make the shipping contracts for you [12-Jun-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: ok. [12-Jun-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Then I am heading out. [12-Jun-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: no I don't want to negotiate about the price, but I had lunch and I am now to lazy to make 20 contracts ;) [12-Jun-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Just make the contracts I will bring it all to you. [12-Jun-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but I need to know If you are online, to make sure no one others will grab this contracts [12-Jun-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can post all the shipping at 1 CIS [12-Jun-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am right here ready to do it [12-Jun-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no one will take them [12-Jun-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and then when ur both online, arrange a magic DW to cover the lot [12-Jun-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (one mechanism anyway) [12-Jun-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but then you will get the fees of two adds ;) [12-Jun-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Just put it in Katoa. [12-Jun-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're posting 5-6 ads anyway it's just one more :) [12-Jun-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: is magic dw another name for the golden rat? ;) [12-Jun-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [12-Jun-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: AND LIFT OFF [12-Jun-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dserver**: @neke86 it's just a joke , but thanks for clarifying some moments [12-Jun-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***marine307** joined.* [12-Jun-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Mario Kart time [12-Jun-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaja-Inks** joined.* [12-Jun-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what the hell am I doing wrong. I want to buy something on the cxl. in the menu I choose the cargo of the ship and after pressing buy the material is in my warehouse [12-Jun-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @Christian the guys on planet and Global chat are all willing to help you out. They are a tremendous resource. Before I make big decisions I usually ask them. Does not mean I will do what they suggest, but just to see if someone did it and it not work out. This game is a long play game. [12-Jun-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yes, I know that they are very very helpful to us newbies [12-Jun-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but what did I wrong that you tell me this? [12-Jun-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and I am very glad that they help so much [12-Jun-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Has you ship landed? [12-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I only asked if I make something wrong. Yes, it is there. I can choose the warehouse or my ship cargo hold in the drop down menu for "storage location". Or is storage location only for selling? [12-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: not for buying? [12-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how do i know which cxl is closets to me? [12-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Benton [12-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Benton Station [12-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Look at the map, there is a symbol for your base and all commodity exchanges [12-Jun-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thanks [12-Jun-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: If you are selling you need to rent a warehouse. You can buy and have it go strait to the ship [12-Jun-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Okay, but I bought 3 times and I choose my ship in the drop down menu for storage location and every time I click "buy" it went to the warehouse and not in my ship. Did I missed something to click? [12-Jun-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am not sure. [12-Jun-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I wish you a nice day Smitty. I got to go. We have evening here and my wife want to look some show in tv [12-Jun-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dejarl** left.* [12-Jun-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Inevitable** joined.* [12-Jun-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrypticGnome223** joined.* [12-Jun-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***i7089** left.* [12-Jun-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uvox** left.* [12-Jun-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HiddenGuardian** joined.* [12-Jun-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***infiniteloop** joined.* [12-Jun-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I need oxygen immediately. I have posted a buy in the LM for 10 at 60 CIS. I will be deleting the post if not completed in the next 3 hours. [12-Jun-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SemIdeia** joined.* [12-Jun-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sg1113** joined.* [12-Jun-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yos233** joined.* [13-Jun-22 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: good morgning katoa! [13-Jun-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: hi [13-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Morning everyone [13-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Good morning Neke [13-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 48 Iodine temporarily on the LM for anyone who might like a stab at MHL manufacturing :) [13-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: deliverable in ~7h [13-Jun-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Not my business. sorry ;) [13-Jun-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: neke i have a quastion. yesterday i rent a warehouse on benton station. my ship was also on the station. I bought some AMM. In the drop down menu "Storage Loction" i selected my ship and then i clicked on "Buy". But it went to the warehouse and not to my ship. [13-Jun-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Have i missed something? Or is this normal that all boughts went to the warehouse, even when a ship is docked? [13-Jun-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Yes, that dropdown only seems to be working when selecting a source, like when you're selling things you can sell directly from the docked ship [13-Jun-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ah, my guess was right. it triggers only if i klick selling. Boughts everytime went in a warehouse if you have some. if not, the script is checking if a ship is docked [13-Jun-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: what grunk said :) [13-Jun-22 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah i got is. selling can have more scources, boughts always went in warehouse (if you have one, otherwise on ship) [13-Jun-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Now i have to punish my workers. they need to work harder and faster. If they want oxygen, i want to see results ;-) [13-Jun-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Wait, was it you who just filled my AMM contract? Thanks! [13-Jun-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Thanks yourself, needed to get rid of some AMM :) [13-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Do you have an overproduction? I have some refineries which will be very happy about a steady AMM supply ;) [13-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll always take any O being dumped cheap :) [13-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or even dumped at fair prices [13-Jun-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 24 SME eating 60-100 O per day [13-Jun-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Smelter on Katoa? We have no ore here [13-Jun-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No, on KW-358b, my hostile little metallurgy nightmare [13-Jun-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: hostile little nightmare? what the heck did you do? [13-Jun-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Ah the Harkonnen Planet [13-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: I usually have quite a lot of AMM available (when i can spare a ship to go pick it up at my base on Benten D) [13-Jun-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: If i have Pro Lic, i can trade on all LM or just where i have a base? [13-Jun-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: You can trade on all of them [13-Jun-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 7 days flight time? where.... how far is D from A (Katoa) away? [13-Jun-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: That means i could pick it up if i have a free ship? [13-Jun-22 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Haha, yeah, it's usually faster to jump to a neighbouring system (Proxion for example) and then back to Benten D, it's very far out [13-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Yes, and if you put up buy ads for AMM out there, chances are i'm not the only one overproducing out there :) [13-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but if i put buy orders, then you have to deliver i thought. when i want to pick up, you have to sell. Or am i wrong? [13-Jun-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: or can i rent a warehouse on D, you deliver it in the warehouse and i pick it up from there? [13-Jun-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: If you put a Buy order you are buying at the planet where the LM is located so anyone filling the order would "deliver" it there on that planet(make sure you have storage available locally to accept it) [13-Jun-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Exactly [13-Jun-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ah. i understand. and again a productive day where i learn something about that game. ;) [13-Jun-22 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Yes, there is a lot to learn in the beginning :) [13-Jun-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: After some confusion I have again re-listed government purchase orders for upcoming COGC materials. They are list on the LM with the rating "D" for visibility, and include 1,503 DW, 1,002 RAT, 2,004 PE and 2,004 MCG [13-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: What went wrong? [13-Jun-22 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was offered cash payment to cover the goods, not the goods themselve [13-Jun-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: filled PE [13-Jun-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can fill DW as well but my shipment arrives tomorrow morning. Is that okay? [13-Jun-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap [13-Jun-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: accepted [13-Jun-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you :) [13-Jun-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG and RAT to go [13-Jun-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: for a prosperous katoa [13-Jun-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [13-Jun-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Tax revenue came in and the snapshot is available on Discord [13-Jun-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855507080021671979/985811966754947082/unknown.png {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855507080021671979/985811966754947082/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855507080021671979/985811966754947082/unknown.png?ex=681520b0&is=6813cf30&hm=6d0351dcc0a1fce265a0b41efc91de601efe300a1b73ca70a43866231397e3d3& [13-Jun-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think anyone can view it there [13-Jun-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Does anyone got some FTL fuel on Proxion?? managed to get myself stranded there with no fuel XD got a small contract up there for it. [13-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PSA: Please ensure you block company code IONS from taking your LM ads. Use "CO IONS" in a new buffer, then click on the Managing Director's name and hit the Block User button. [13-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They're a prolific pirate (check out their "F" rating) and have hit shipping ads exiting Katoa. [13-Jun-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Off, that's bad, thanks for the heads up, just blocked him [13-Jun-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: the damn pirate has a better financial stability ratin as i! Damn! [13-Jun-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well no wonder [13-Jun-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: hey, i am financial stable! I just have some Liabilities! Thats all. ;) [13-Jun-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Hahaha [13-Jun-22 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Holy crap! Company existed for only 2 weeks and already rating down the drain, he can't be doing anything but pirating :O [13-Jun-22 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Yeah, it's not good [13-Jun-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWurm** left.* [13-Jun-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i just baught stuff from the exchange and the orders are filled how do i get it on my ship as its not in my warehouse or on my ship that i said it must go into [13-Jun-22 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you must fly a ship to the exchange and then pick the goods from the contracts buffer [13-Jun-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: my dhip id in that location and the cont buffer is empty? [13-Jun-22 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: is the ship cargo also empty? [13-Jun-22 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yip weight and volume are 0 [13-Jun-22 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: then orders are not filled? [13-Jun-22 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: are you sure you bought anything? [13-Jun-22 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: they are filled [13-Jun-22 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i bought 12 bsc and 40 mcg [13-Jun-22 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: then it must be in the ship cargo (if the ship is at the station and you choose ship cargo when you created the order) otherwise it should be in CONT (contracts) [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: it says the amount is 0(40) and the other is 0(12) [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's not filled [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you have to wait for someone to sell at that price [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: or [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it is [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: very strange then [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: but status says filled? [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: yes, that is correct [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: nothing in contracts? [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: as i put the buy up at someones selling price as i wanted it now [13-Jun-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I see [13-Jun-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and cont buffer is just blank [13-Jun-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: other ship? :D [13-Jun-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: both ship and warehouse is empty and i only sent one ship to benten station [13-Jun-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I never seen this before [13-Jun-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: maybe try to close the browser then login again [13-Jun-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: let me try that brb [13-Jun-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: if you have a warehouse and you buy something then it is in the warehouse [13-Jun-22 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it only goes to the ship if you have no warehouse on the cx [13-Jun-22 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thats it found it now X_X sorry [13-Jun-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: perfect [13-Jun-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: forgot about warehouse at cx, I just use the contracts if the ship is not at the station [13-Jun-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: renting one isnt that pricy if im making less then 100 c a week i have biger problems LUL [13-Jun-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: if you want to sell on the cx then a warehouse is nice to have [13-Jun-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: if you are placing an sell order to a given sell price that not leeds immediatly to a clearing [13-Jun-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: if I put something for sale then fly away will the order be canceled? [13-Jun-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: so ask price is the cheapest sale up the the bid is the highest buy price correct? [13-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: ask = people that have goods are asking that price [13-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: ask is the lowest price to which you can buy [13-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: bid = people that don't have goods will buy from that price [13-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: cool time to sell things to cover cost lol [13-Jun-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: do i need to use a rig to get water to keep farming or does it use natural resource by itself? [13-Jun-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: afaik you need a rig for Water [13-Jun-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Or buy it from cx [13-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ok cool then i didnt waste buying these construct mats [13-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You did if you're going to make a RIG with it [13-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: buy? you should have a starting pack of materials? [13-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea i used the starting mats to make 2 farms and incinerator [13-Jun-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: else whaat would be the next recomended step? [13-Jun-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I ever thought farming on Katoa is suboptimal because of the soil fertility? [13-Jun-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: The yellow bar is left from the middle. [13-Jun-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Or did i misunderstand the manual? [13-Jun-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it depends on CX [13-Jun-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you get a little less efficiency [13-Jun-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Buying water at 30/u sucks but it's probably a better idea than RIGs on Katoa [13-Jun-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I am planning to make a farm [13-Jun-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: according to my calculations, I can extract one unit of water for ~9 CIS on Katoa [13-Jun-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: but that is just a profit of around 200 per day [13-Jun-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: well if i make 40 water i make up all the mcg with proffit [13-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you need to account for time @marine307 [13-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: repairs [13-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: oh no!!! [13-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: The Margin and profit per Day discussion again xDD [13-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [13-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: haha [13-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's a big deal :D [13-Jun-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: opportunity cost [13-Jun-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: well i was looking at if i invest on the rig now i would make my money back someday where buying the water will be great for now nbut end up adding up later in cost [13-Jun-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: water won't cost that much forever [13-Jun-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it ranges between 16 and 40 [13-Jun-22 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: if your further production line requires water, I think it can make sense to have stable supply but if you plan to sell it on the market probably not the best planet [13-Jun-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but he can make water, out of water plants and out of plants RAT and this totally autarc [13-Jun-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Is autarc a english word? [13-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: not planning on seling water i need it for the farms [13-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I don't know it :D [13-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and there is water plants? [13-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: self-sufficient [13-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: yes, that is the path I am somewhat following [13-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: quite sure it's not the fast line to get rich [13-Jun-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: put water into the farm and the farm will make plants out of it [13-Jun-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: water->plants->RAT [13-Jun-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but a quite save path because nearly everyone needs RAT and DW [13-Jun-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: with today prices it is looking promising [13-Jun-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: and by making your own consumables you save quite a bit on production costs [13-Jun-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: im working on making the carbon base as it allows more advanced production later [13-Jun-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i am a complete newbie and my workers already need 18 RAT per day [13-Jun-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: carbon market also looks good [13-Jun-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ye just smelting it from HCP to C triples the price [13-Jun-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I am at 8 currently, planning to expand soon [13-Jun-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and then i can still move the carbon into high tech goods at one stage [13-Jun-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: @marine307 there are more expenses, also you don't thake time in consideration [13-Jun-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it tripples the price but look at the profit per day! [13-Jun-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you only produce 1 production cycle per day. so 4 C. [13-Jun-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** deleted this message.* [13-Jun-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: well processing it for a day extra it triples the valuse and it is a 1for 1 conversion [13-Jun-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: C.CI1 CI1.C [13-Jun-22 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Make sure you are accounting for the fact the INC has 40 PIO who cost about 8 CIS/day to supply. [13-Jun-22 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: HCP.CI1 [13-Jun-22 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and you need to repair it every 90 days, so half the building materials cost / 90 [13-Jun-22 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: well just stop taxing us so hard gov :P [13-Jun-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Farmers pay barely any :) [13-Jun-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you can sell the C for 1600 and have materials for around 500. + 500 for the workers. You will make 800 per day per production building [13-Jun-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LR UV-351a you can see the rates [13-Jun-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i know its not steep LOL [13-Jun-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Hey, he did lower the taxes on agro things [13-Jun-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how do you know the cost of your work force? [13-Jun-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: spreadsheets [13-Jun-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yea, Katoa is paid for by people running TEC/ENG, and manufacturinf [13-Jun-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: everyone else is close to as low as possible [13-Jun-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Γ€hm i am an fuel producer here [13-Jun-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Not a Tec Eng guy ^^ [13-Jun-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So I would like to see lots of Ag, Carbon, and Fuel please :) [13-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: OK, a newbie question: How often is the consumables taken and at what times? 1 time per day or more? [13-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 1 time per day [13-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: at what time---like from now till next distribution [13-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: starting with the time they get the consumables first time [13-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok [13-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: The first full amount of any consumable required for the following 24 hours (e.g. 4 RAT for 100 Pioneers) is claimed by a base’s population (and thus disappears from the inventory) as soon as the commodity becomes available in the base’s inventory. The same happens again 24 hours later, again and again until the consumable is used up. This goes for each type of consumable individually: If a population starts consuming DW at 12 PM and RAT at 4 PM, the next batch of DW will be used up at 12 PM the next day, and the next batch of RAT will be used up at 4 PM the next day. Note: No production needs to be running for a population to be consuming resources! Idle workforces have the exact same needs as active ones and will still use up consumables in the base’s inventory. [13-Jun-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: manual copy^^ [13-Jun-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok, I must of missed that.. But makes sense. I was confused as buildings made at different times of day. Any way of seeing when those times are? [13-Jun-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: there was a discussion about it, apparently there is no way to see them in the UI [13-Jun-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: would be nice to have [13-Jun-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: yes. I was caught short the other day. If I was aware of the times the consumables were used I would of planned better when running so close to needs on demand [13-Jun-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: neke, the repair (costs) only for production facilities or for housing too? [13-Jun-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: so how long has everyone here been playing? [13-Jun-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 49 days for me [13-Jun-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 14 days [13-Jun-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: you can click on peoples names and it tells ya about them [13-Jun-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: neke, our gov, for nearly a year [13-Jun-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 8 days [13-Jun-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***marine307** deleted this message.* [13-Jun-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Only production buildings need repairs [13-Jun-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's hard to see who is on the planet in any meaningful way [13-Jun-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: okay, and back in my spreadsheet calculating that [13-Jun-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but you can look at the plots on the map in PLI UV-351a [13-Jun-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: This chat also has a user list [13-Jun-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: probably a good approximation [13-Jun-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: obviously who is active is a different matter [13-Jun-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: wharg, that are 328 CIS every day and each facility for maintenance reserves [13-Jun-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: assuming the prices are still the same in 90 days as they are today when I calculated it [13-Jun-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: are all periods per day? [13-Jun-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes it's not nothing lol [13-Jun-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I usually just calculate based on slightly inflated pricing for inputs [13-Jun-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: then not worry too much about market movements [13-Jun-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: which intereset rate for inflation and interest per week/month/year? [13-Jun-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In fact what I actually have, is a master price tab that has all the CONS, and all the FABS [13-Jun-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and then I make these named ranges in excel [13-Jun-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and then for every building/material calculation I reference these named ranges [13-Jun-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so I just change them in one place and keep them updated [13-Jun-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and it flows all the way through my spreadsheets [13-Jun-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so I can change the cost of RAT from 50 to 75 and it flows through increasing the cost of ALO coming out of the EXTs, to increasing the cost of smelting it into AL, into increasing the cost of the HWPs turning that AL into BHP [13-Jun-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a 20% increase in the input RAT price from 60 to 72, for example, increases the ultimate selling price of AL by 1.19%, and BHP by 1.24% [13-Jun-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not huge, just an example of changing a single input price [13-Jun-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: if you sell or buy something on the local market you dont have to send a ship for it right? [13-Jun-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no [13-Jun-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but you do pay listing fees [13-Jun-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so just be mindful that doing lots of LM transactions could cost more than a ship [13-Jun-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (could) [13-Jun-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah i have something similar but only for my field of business [13-Jun-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but i update prices every day manually [13-Jun-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i already asked in globald if there is a mechanic to update it automaticly but this ends up in a 2 hours technical discussion [13-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i can't follow them, so i still do it manually [13-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Me too [13-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hasnt stopped me :) [13-Jun-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: so as gov you want carbon production and fuel? [13-Jun-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: he has so many ships, he need cheap fuel on mass [13-Jun-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: lol [13-Jun-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They are the lubricant on the gears of trade :) [13-Jun-22 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and how do you get into a corp is it only invite? [13-Jun-22 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and what are teh benifits of them? [13-Jun-22 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i have no idea. i am still solo. only 14 days of living [13-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/corporations/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/corporations/ 7. Corporations :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [13-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: Once corporate headquarters become active, they provide a 10% productivity boost to all bases of members of the owning corporation. Please note that corporate headquarters cannot be built on starting planets. [13-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: this looks like huge benefit [13-Jun-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it is like a guild [13-Jun-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea i just read that now aswell [13-Jun-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: in future corporate shares will be traded on exchanges [13-Jun-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but not on starting planets [13-Jun-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: do this mean i have to move to another planet to find one where i can get a bonus from the crop. hq? [13-Jun-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: seems like a good balance decision [13-Jun-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: corps on starting planets would be too strong [13-Jun-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: HQ [13-Jun-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I guess [13-Jun-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah but if we (i) now want the bonus, i have to change the planet. even if i found a corp here on Katoa, i will not be able to build the hq [13-Jun-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: nope [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's for more "advanced" stage of the game [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: so, it is a "yes": i have to change my planet [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: no you can stay [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: but open another base [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: second base on a planet with HQ [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: and get the bonus there [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i think you can make one here as yyou can have bases on mutiple planets so you wont gain the boost here but on the other planet [13-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: start a new industry [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: by make one i mean a corp [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: just the hq will be somewhere else [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but the bonus will only count on the other planet, not for all my planets [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: exactly [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: and I think that is a good thing [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: :D [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its a way to force lots of players too group together on one planet [13-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: universe wide bonus is too much [13-Jun-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: that is my understanding on corp as well, make a team and supply a production line, maybe ships etc advanced, or high supply in some industry [13-Jun-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its like you would have one person produce stuf for workers and another everything for ships and another for construction in basic terms [13-Jun-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and on other planets you have other supply lines to make profit but the HQ is for big goals as a team [13-Jun-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: When they add the feature of buy/sell shares of corps that will change the game for sure. Should be interesting [13-Jun-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: do you get some dividend from shares then? [13-Jun-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: there are some things on roadmap of this game that are very promising [13-Jun-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: yes, with dividents [13-Jun-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: Allows players to sell their APEX license keys to or buy them from other players. [13-Jun-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: and [13-Jun-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: Introduces military conflict into the game, allowing corporations to conquer the infrastructure of planets. Players with bases on these planets will only be affected indirectly by changes in policy, but will never lose property. [13-Jun-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I don't want to be conquered [13-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Does anyone? [13-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: then conquer yourself :D [13-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: first things first is conquer the market LOL [13-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I like the idea because it adds a lot more action and increases demand [13-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: wars are EXPENSIVE [13-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and will lead to destruction of goods at a higher rate [13-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: imagine being a missle producer lol [13-Jun-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Trade blockades would be interesting [13-Jun-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: bases are not affected [13-Jun-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: but policy [13-Jun-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: yes [13-Jun-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's a fun money sink for the rich and that should make room for the new players [13-Jun-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: plus will help lower inflation or devaltion of goods values [13-Jun-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: war fleets need fuel .... i see my chance xD [13-Jun-22 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: @Marine What is your business plan now? [13-Jun-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: @Neke Can i see my AfA in my financial report or does it appear the first time after i spent something to repair? [13-Jun-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @christian just starting up carbon but will branch to food very soon [13-Jun-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: the depreciation [13-Jun-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: only food plants or also RAT.CI1 [13-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: up to rations [13-Jun-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its not no get rich quick scheme for sure [13-Jun-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: found it. but last week i had depreciaton and 2 weeks ago i had none? but i had buildings for 2 weeks. [13-Jun-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but you can sell it directly here on the local market (if you have a pro or basic licence) with no need to fly to the cxl [13-Jun-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you save time and costs for fuel [13-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i could buy 18 RAT everyday from you and this will go up [13-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: what’s β€œAfA” ? [13-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: And neke needs thounds of them if he starts a gov. project [13-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: of RAT? [13-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: epreciation [13-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: depreciation = AfA [13-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: depreciation is calculated somewhere in FINBS or FINIS but I don’t really pay attention to it [13-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the automated accounting is not very good [13-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it tells me i paid depreciation in last period, but non depreciation in the period before the last one [13-Jun-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea thats what im hoping to do is sell rat just local and get rich that way saving travel costs [13-Jun-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Honestly I'd ignore it [13-Jun-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you don't pay depreciation anyway its just a calculation off the value of your buildings [13-Jun-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I suspect in the last period it was your start buildings, which are "free" [13-Jun-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Keep that in mind, anything you make is zero value in those FINIS/FINBS buffers [13-Jun-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so not terribly useful [13-Jun-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @marine307 selling RAT will rarely go wrong :) [13-Jun-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: great basis to build on from here i i just saw u can make carbo off maze aswell so can produce two product off producing a bulk base product [13-Jun-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: your suspect went wrong, i bought some prefabs and expand my starting package to something that i thought would work better. So i already had building costs in the first week, exactly on the first day. ;-) [13-Jun-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Back when I started I think I got to three farms as fast as I could then made BEA+NUT+GRN in sync [13-Jun-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: they line up, you can make twelve at a time on the exact same time frame [13-Jun-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it uses low water [13-Jun-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and will support 2-3 FPs iirc [13-Jun-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you diversify early and spend some time on C, some on RAT, you'll end up out of sync with random surpluses [13-Jun-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The other way to go was 4 FRM and 1 INC [13-Jun-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and pump out Ag for the fast C recipe [13-Jun-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but 3 farms and 3 FPs are a huge invest for a fresh starter [13-Jun-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah you can't build it at once [13-Jun-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea im at 2 frm and one inc right now [13-Jun-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd keep adding farms until you can support one INC doing the fast recipe [13-Jun-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, I'd consider contacting the Katoa Carbon Consortium [13-Jun-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if you want a corp anyway [13-Jun-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but, you;'re what, one day old [13-Jun-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: plenty of time to experiment and plan :D [13-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Marine why do you ask me about my fuel type? need some for your ships? their fuel tanks can't be empty [13-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: hi attila [13-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Katoa question: I've got 1 COL, 1 EXT, 1 RIG & 1 REF. Been going fine make SF. Trying to decide if I should start farming or double up on refining. Thoughts? [13-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Hi Christian [13-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What is the RIG for if you're making fuel? [13-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: I had 20 idle pioneers. Thought I'd put them to use making H2O. [13-Jun-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: What does your spreadsheet says about this problem? [13-Jun-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Figured I could sell the H2O if I don't farm. [13-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: LOL, my spreadsheet doesn't have an opinion :-) [13-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Marine is a new farmer on Katoa, eventually he needs some water [13-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: I'm wondering if mid-long term it's better for self-sufficiency or single product focus. [13-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: With that did you start? what are your 2 starting experts? [13-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: long term is world domination xD [13-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: I have 2 fueld and 2 extraction experts [13-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Damn @Sintheras just dropped lucrative shipping and I've no ships available [13-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: really? I only have to fuel experts Oo [13-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Oh, thanks for pointing that up. I'll pick up one of those. [13-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: how you can drop a shipping contract? [13-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: dropping = placing? [13-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Yes [13-Jun-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: If you have some overproduction in AMM or GAL, I would be a glad customer [13-Jun-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: I have a bit of both. I'll arrange details w/ you directly. [13-Jun-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Neke you should leave those anyway :-D [13-Jun-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @AttilaTheHun When i started I also did a bit of everything but soon discovered that specialization is the way to go because of experts. there's nothing wrong with diversifying and beeing self sufficient, but to be optimal you should split that between bases and try to choose planets which are good for the things at hand. for example a RIG in Katoa is doing practically nothing. If you want H20 you could settle Etherwind. But seeing that you want to go the Fuel way, i'd say you could try getting your own C or H production line going if you want to become self sufficient. [13-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Thanks Nicster. That's very helpful. [13-Jun-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I gave the tip with the experts too ;-/ [13-Jun-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: C production for fuel? [13-Jun-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Lol, sorry, i was just planing my next PG extension when i wrote this :-p [13-Jun-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you don't need C of course [13-Jun-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nister, how long do you travel between Katoa and your H planet? [13-Jun-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nicster, damn auto correction [13-Jun-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: depends on the amount of fuel you use. but with a reasonable amount of fuel you can make the round trip in 2 days [13-Jun-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i do most of it with shipping but since i am swimming in fuel i sometimes also to the roundtrip in a bit more than one day :-). [13-Jun-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: shipping contracts that is [13-Jun-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: with one of your 2000 tons big carrier or the starting ships? [13-Jun-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: or do you have a specialized Gas ship with high volume cargo bay? [13-Jun-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i do not have a bigger ship currently but i am in the process of building one. It will be 2000/2000 because i will continue organizing the gas giant with shipping contracts, since it's low maintenance and it is a good opportunity for newer players. [13-Jun-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: as i started i shortly thought about starting with hull plates. seems to be a interesting market. but as newbie with non connections, i discard that plan [13-Jun-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: AMM for sale on LM, 10/u cheaper than highest bid on CX. [13-Jun-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: No money for it. First i have to sell my production on CX. [13-Jun-22 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: just want to make sure there is no way of seing how much RAT i need per24 hours ? [13-Jun-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The workforce tab in your BS buffer [13-Jun-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thanks i know it was said before but couldnt find it [13-Jun-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone have water to sell on the lm? [13-Jun-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you can't trade on the LM without rating [13-Jun-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: need at least a month of PRO [13-Jun-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welp guess buying from the station lol [13-Jun-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: plan ahead as much as possible [13-Jun-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea thats what im doing a ship left a while back but want him asfull as possible to come back [13-Jun-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it is difficult to have it full with starting capital [13-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea i just want it full enough to make the trip worth it [13-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: shipping would be a nice activity but it is restricted on trial [13-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: same LM rating [13-Jun-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: at least you start with plenty of fuel, so don't cheap out too much on flying [13-Jun-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: make sure your lines are working 24/7 [13-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I sold half of my fuel to get cash for investments [13-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: that does sound like a good idea lol [13-Jun-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: fuel is cheaper then water lol [13-Jun-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 10k+ cash is better than some fuel in a depot [13-Jun-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: when does the workforce redistribution happen? [13-Jun-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dimitri21** joined.* [13-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I've demolished some buildings, but my unemployed pioneers still use the supplies; I want them gone... preferably without incinerator "accidents" :> [13-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cobbrou** joined.* [13-Jun-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: they would probably leave at next cycle of consumption [13-Jun-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: already ate for the day :D [13-Jun-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: nope, they've been sitting there for 3 days already [13-Jun-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: so I guess workforce redistribution shuffles them [13-Jun-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: then prob never [13-Jun-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: employ them or demolish the building and build again? [13-Jun-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: "ATTENTION: all personel not at their workstations, please gather around the incinerator immediately" [13-Jun-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: lol [13-Jun-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: stash the food for a day [13-Jun-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: they will run ! [13-Jun-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what the heck ships sintheras to the station? [13-Jun-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: so many shipping contracts [13-Jun-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thepuzzler93** left.* [13-Jun-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Fuel, a lot of it :-D [13-Jun-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: really? [13-Jun-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Yeah he's the biggest SF producer together with Rasd and me and my friends :-). [13-Jun-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: there are already 150.00 fuel from hin in the order book of Benten [13-Jun-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: is there a chance that your elite community will accept a newcomer like me in your lines one day? :D [13-Jun-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Good thing about fuel is, there will always be demand and now that more and more ships are getting build that demand will also rise. [13-Jun-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: That answer ignores my question completely ;) [13-Jun-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But the demand will not rise, if there aren't any goods to be transport [13-Jun-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: looking at the chart fuel is on a up trend [13-Jun-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: looking very hot on hortus CX [13-Jun-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: why [13-Jun-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: free market knows why :D [13-Jun-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I don't get the point sry [13-Jun-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but you have to take attention to the higher fuel consumption to fly to hortus [13-Jun-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: the time (opportunity costs) and then the currency exchange rate [13-Jun-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: fuel cost benten-hortus ~ 4.5k (both ways), 8.3k cargo STL, profit ~ 33.2k [13-Jun-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I don't know exactly how is the FX situation but they seem around 1:1 [13-Jun-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 1 CIS = 1.0000 ICA [13-Jun-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: but volume is very low [13-Jun-22 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 1 ICA = 0.9500 CIS [13-Jun-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: if you can find something worth buying from there, like consumables since they have fertile land, you could spend the ICA there and make some extra profits at home [13-Jun-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: flight time 2d 11h, if I had the capital and one ship is just parked, I think it is worth it [13-Jun-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***repulzed59** joined.* [13-Jun-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: that is with MIN usage [13-Jun-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I make the trip out to moria every so often to sell GAL, takes more time but selling in another system can be very profitable [13-Jun-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: nice, just need to save some cash and try it out, I have one ship just sitting [13-Jun-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Ben Stn shortly. Have 65t /175m space open. Contact me to book the space. [13-Jun-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 8.3k stl as cargo was your plan? @nullstring [13-Jun-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it was a rough estimate [13-Jun-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 8333,33 is right yes [13-Jun-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: exactly [13-Jun-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you may want to use some for the trip back [13-Jun-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: refuel with own fuel [13-Jun-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what is the fuel consumption for that trip? [13-Jun-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you wrote 2 days, but what was .. oh wait. 4k for one way? [13-Jun-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: There is no club of fuel producers or something. It's just about knowing whos in the space as you. If you grow your operation and regularly sell your product your name will also gain fame :) [13-Jun-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: FAME! I wanna live for ever. [13-Jun-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: The fame thing didn't work even with my AI thing. :D [13-Jun-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: both ways 4.5k CIS on fuel [13-Jun-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it was 198 FT and 22 ST [13-Jun-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I just sent a 10% loaded ship from station to home :D [13-Jun-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: a misstake? [13-Jun-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: not a mistake [13-Jun-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's a poor manager activity [13-Jun-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 1084 CIS left [13-Jun-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: living on the edge [13-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: and production lines needs materials [13-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rockoon** joined.* [13-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 254 CIS left at the moment .D [13-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: save for fees! :D [13-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i have consumables and materials for 7 days. [13-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I got around the same [13-Jun-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: if I could plan my trips once per week [13-Jun-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: that would be something [13-Jun-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Esuna** joined.* [13-Jun-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 60t space still. Leaving in 5 min. contact asap to get your shipment included. [13-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ship has sailed [13-Jun-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i don't even know in which direction your ship will leave [13-Jun-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: up :) [13-Jun-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: to or from katoa [13-Jun-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: down would be destructive [13-Jun-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have 249t/249m3 left on my ship heading TO Benten Station [13-Jun-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ah u took the other one lol [13-Jun-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Leaving in a few minutes From Katoa [13-Jun-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I know the real money is in ftl, but right now I like the short trips [13-Jun-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: same can make money back easy [13-Jun-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: prepping launch now. [13-Jun-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Takeoff [13-Jun-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: See ya'll in 4 hours [13-Jun-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: safe journeys [13-Jun-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just between you, me, and everyone else in here: there is a lot of H2O headed to the CX. Will take a few days.. but.. [13-Jun-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: is it from etherwind springs? :D [13-Jun-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It is.. [13-Jun-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ive sent off three ships to collect, and have another cache one jump out [13-Jun-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I want to put 25,000 units up there [13-Jun-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you could reset the price to MM with that volume alone :D [13-Jun-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah, won’t be pushing that far - I need to find a balance between crushing price speculation and feeding everyone. [13-Jun-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: dam i just bought 200 [13-Jun-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 200 is a drop in the sea [13-Jun-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I thought you are going to make a rig @marine [13-Jun-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yeanke** left.* [13-Jun-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i thought a rig on katoa is worthless [13-Jun-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: if we get a stable supply from etherwind it is [13-Jun-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Yeah, I'll probably demolish my RIG when I need the pioneers for something else. [13-Jun-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Yeah I moved all my rigs to EW, slowly transitioning my farmsteads as well [13-Jun-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @nullstring i did [13-Jun-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: but need a boot strap [13-Jun-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoctorG** joined.* [13-Jun-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hueban** joined.* [13-Jun-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bayraktar** joined.* [13-Jun-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qoinn21** joined.* [13-Jun-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Attention: SmittyVentures is now taking orders for the flight FROM Bentenstation back TO Katoa. [13-Jun-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: The first ship will be launching in 1 hr. [13-Jun-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: The second ship will be launching 4 hours later. [13-Jun-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MikesMagic** joined.* [13-Jun-22 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: what are your rates smitty? [13-Jun-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SMitty [13-Jun-22 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have FTL work for your ships if you want more coin than CX<>KAT ferries [13-Jun-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got three Proxion>Katoa contracts on the LM, and if someone wants t fly there empty I can send shipments in that direction to by arrangement [13-Jun-22 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Get your orders in for water on the CX folks, 13 hours. [13-Jun-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST @ 50/u (LMA UV-072c/149) Few hours flight away. [13-Jun-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Closer than the CX even :) [13-Jun-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I don't have the cash on hand, are this LST supplies regular? [14-Jun-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [14-Jun-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: very :) [14-Jun-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can do one with a longer payment term if you like [14-Jun-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I just realised I am not ready right now [14-Jun-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I could consume 20 per day [14-Jun-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: and need PRO for LM [14-Jun-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: only have cash left for fees [14-Jun-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: need to stabilise a bit my operations :) [14-Jun-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Good morning Katoa! [14-Jun-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scrof**: good morning! [14-Jun-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No worries [14-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: No worries about good morning? [14-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Good morning neke [14-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: How is Gov life? all stable here on Katoa? [14-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha sorry was replying to the LST discussion [14-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All stable on our planet [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I run a very stable benign dictatorship with a flourish of corruption to support it [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so no wild swings here [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I heard something about a little rebellion on, was it Moria, yesterday in the global chat [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: good quality of life [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Moria? [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In an election? [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: is this really possible that my workers can resell? [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: start a rebellion? [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Um [14-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need to see this discussion [14-Jun-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scrof**: are you buying votes per chance? [14-Jun-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can you give me a name/timestamp [14-Jun-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't pay for votes with CIS if that's what you're asking [14-Jun-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 3:53 PM yesterday. @neke [14-Jun-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: It was on Vallis [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Lhokee asked [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: mmmd answered [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: looking now [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Why are the peasants errrr people on Vallis rioting? [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: The beatings will continue until morale improves. [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scrof**: favors then huh, good dictator [14-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay what happened is it looks like the COGC went on strike [14-Jun-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: "The Vallis peasants have not been fed appropriately" [14-Jun-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The Governor failed to put all the materials in, and the COGC "goes on strike" which means you lose the bonus [14-Jun-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Okay and did this effect my production? I mean effect more then the lost of bonus? [14-Jun-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Something like "Production time doubles while strike"? [14-Jun-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well, losing a 25% bonus is noticeable [14-Jun-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but there's no other extra effects [14-Jun-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Of course if you literally dont feed your own PIOs they will stop working [14-Jun-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but not a planet issue [14-Jun-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yes, 25% is really noticeable. But here in Katoa we have a bonus for manufacture and I am a fuel cooker, so the bonus effect me not really [14-Jun-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah you wouldn't notice [14-Jun-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Is there even a planet with a bonus for me? [14-Jun-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fuel? [14-Jun-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Probably [14-Jun-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I checked some systems in the near and all have manufactury, Metall, extraction or chemistry [14-Jun-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: https://fio.fnar.net/planetsearch?COGC=true&Rocky=true&Gas=true&LowGrav=true&HighGrav=true&LowPres=true&HighPres=true&LowTemp=true&HighTemp=true [14-Jun-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Looks like the nearest is Cortez [14-Jun-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: good morning all [14-Jun-22 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got a ship here available to do a 24hr return shipping job? [14-Jun-22 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i think for base fuel look for a planet that will tax you the least as it seems like they put the bonus to attract the rich people that give lots of tax [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @neke how much space do you need ? and can a ship with 1500 fuel do that trip? [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need all 500tm3 [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and yes, if you have FF as well? [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's two jumps away [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but I can provide Fuel [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 300 ff [14-Jun-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: more than enough [14-Jun-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: then i can do it for ye [14-Jun-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay [14-Jun-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: let me work out numbers, stand by pls [14-Jun-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: cool dm me [14-Jun-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackhathall** left.* [14-Jun-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: There are still "D" rated buying ads for 2,004 MCG and 1,002 RAT for the upcoming COGC. Please participate if you would like payment for COGC support! [14-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how do i gain voting rights? [14-Jun-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can you not vote using the buffer "ADM UV-351a" ? [14-Jun-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: when i try vote it just says you dont have voting tights on this planet [14-Jun-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well, put your voting tights on and try again [14-Jun-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh it's possible your account is too new [14-Jun-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Maybe have to wait a week or omething [14-Jun-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I can [14-Jun-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i left those in the drop ship [14-Jun-22 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: maybe it has a week timer or something you right [14-Jun-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it does not seem like much competition anyway :D [14-Jun-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: rigged elections [14-Jun-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea pay to win elections :P [14-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: we should change the governance to monarchy [14-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :P [14-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Empire please [14-Jun-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: we shall call his majesty "Neke86 The Emperor" [14-Jun-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [14-Jun-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Emperor Paul Muad'Dib Atreides [14-Jun-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: this guy gets it [14-Jun-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: There is only one Emperor and Empress in my universe xD [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: why do people overprice the LM LOL [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: over and under [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's very rare to see something worth [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's annoying because it means stupid priced orders sit there cluttering up the list [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Those A rated ones are probably arranged though, is the actual answer [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: you would think ad fee will discourage but no [14-Jun-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: like the one i looked at the cottone is 400 each more then the standard price [14-Jun-22 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I ratcheted the ad fee right up one term but it didn't discourage it [14-Jun-22 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah that's @Rasd being very cheeky [14-Jun-22 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and the buying rock at 1 cis hmmm [14-Jun-22 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That will be an arranged trade [14-Jun-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: look like arranged [14-Jun-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: since we don't have smarter contracts [14-Jun-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ior even interpeerson trades [14-Jun-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i would love to trade directly to someone [14-Jun-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: something like future contracts would be nice [14-Jun-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: recurrent deliveries for fixed price [14-Jun-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's on the roadmap [14-Jun-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: Flexible Contracts - More control over the contract system, allowing to design custom contracts, for example loans or supply contracts including delivery locations and dates. [14-Jun-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone have Mai to sell me? [14-Jun-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I only stock for my own needs [14-Jun-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: started a farm today for test [14-Jun-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's not great :D [14-Jun-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: but could make around 500 profit per day [14-Jun-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 24 days ROI [14-Jun-22 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Is there some kind of flight planner to calculate times between routes? [14-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can use BLU buffer, create a test flight [14-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I still have 3 transport contracts from Proxion that need attention, and I need to ship stuff there [14-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: does anyone have a freighter on Katoa? [14-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Really? I was always scared on clicking "test". I don't want some test pilot dying due to my incompetence in building a ship [14-Jun-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The default blueprint is the same as your starter ship [14-Jun-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: can u buy built ships from people? [14-Jun-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes, about $4m [14-Jun-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ouch k ill get back to that idea some day [14-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: hypteticly: If I settle on a complete new planet with no population. how long will it takes until I get some workers to run my buildings? [14-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: more then you are wiling to spend on upkeep? [14-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you get 200 PIO basically straight away [14-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and then it grows slowly [14-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Wait, is marine new in a company? did I missed something? [14-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes he joined the Katoa Carbon gang [14-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sorry not gang, consortium [14-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 200 pio by start, and what means it grows slowly? 1 a week? 10 a week? [14-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I dont know off top of my head [14-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but not that littler [14-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: mh okay, so colonization is hard? [14-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Should get on Discord mate, there's entire channels of senior players answering questions most of the day [14-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no colonisation is easy [14-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but it's expensive :) [14-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea i joined a carbon consortium for guidence in m field lol [14-Jun-22 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: okay if you tell me it is expensive, then I am scared. no clue what you define as expensive :D [14-Jun-22 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: depends on the planet [14-Jun-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 700-800k to get a foothold on a hostile world [14-Jun-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iRac** left.* [14-Jun-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Yaks, really? scares me even more [14-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Focus on maximising and optimising one base here [14-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And the profits will roll in [14-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: so that Emperor can collect his fees :D [14-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Again you guys barely pay anything :P [14-Jun-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah, I focus on that. but I made thoughts about the future.... [14-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I pay about 28K in fees myself every week :P [14-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but these future scares me [14-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Which means I paid 6.6% of the tax received [14-Jun-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [14-Jun-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: more actually, because it's 33K including transaction fees [14-Jun-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I think @CA wants a planet for himself [14-Jun-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's not impossible that's for sure [14-Jun-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would take a few months though [14-Jun-22 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: No not for myselfe [14-Jun-22 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But I looks around [14-Jun-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and saw something worth trying it, if I would know the costs for colonization [14-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you can use Rains sheet and see what it would cost you to colonize the planet [14-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AT0EC3aB3SoXBIMHzqchvSw0MLD4IJdcKhPT7YzCniY/edit#gid=1884208544 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AT0EC3aB3SoXBIMHzqchvSw0MLD4IJdcKhPT7YzCniY/edit Master Base Planner v2.0f x FIO Base Planner Planet,VH-331a,VERSION 2.0f,HELP / INFO - HOVER HERE,Habitation,INFO Fertility Bonus,12.00%,Count,Habitation,Area,Pioneer,Settler,Technician,Engineer,Scientist,Total Price Source,IC1-ask INFO RESOURCES,Planet,Resource,Type,Conc,u/day,0,CM,25,0 RIG,VH-331a,H2O,LIQUID,52%,36.40,HBB,1... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5KOylKPg2RAdpWD0NjEe4majJO2zOvXXJKuTB0jY-Ik/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/tWIgYFQ0yyYKj780rCoS7VREMNMk7IhohlJlr2P5zJLfuoVk-cJcl5bb3kdV2fCUVEO5RzvoIuD5Ig%3Dw1200-h630-p [14-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you can make a copy of this sheet [14-Jun-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what the hell [14-Jun-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: the map doesn't show the faction colors [14-Jun-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: my apex don't connect to the global chat [14-Jun-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea the server is being funny [14-Jun-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea the cons has dropped from 300odd to 100 od [14-Jun-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: they had to restart the servers. it generally gets announced in the official discord [14-Jun-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nicster! Help! The sheet tells me that i produce 307 GAL a day, but in revenue/day still a zero [14-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Found my Error [14-Jun-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: the sheet is very well documented, you can hover over most important fields. [14-Jun-22 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yes, i missed one field in recipe options [14-Jun-22 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Have the production times and flight times shifted due to the server failure? [14-Jun-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what the hell is going on with the STL fuel price on moria? [14-Jun-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** deleted this message.* [14-Jun-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** deleted this message.* [14-Jun-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: SF.NC1 [14-Jun-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: The bid price is down to 6 [14-Jun-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Where is should be [14-Jun-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: muaha [14-Jun-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why sell in Moria though [14-Jun-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Benten is right here, and a firmer price point [14-Jun-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: It's a losing proposition [14-Jun-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i always look around. look in every cx. oppertunities [14-Jun-22 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yesterday you could sell SF for 14 on HRT and buy for the foreign currency cheep H, which is much more expensive here in Benten [14-Jun-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FastFreight** joined.* [14-Jun-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welcome fastfreight [14-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: for PRO people just a reminder, there is a really nice window that shows prices across all CX [14-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: CXM STL [14-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: for example [14-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I mean SF for fuel [14-Jun-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: was thinking about our discussion @Christian-Alexander [14-Jun-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: thats so much easier Oo [14-Jun-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its such a great feature almost will to pay prem just for it LOL [14-Jun-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I can only imagine :D [14-Jun-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: but will get myself a month probably when I can get most value out of a PRO and a rating [14-Jun-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I the meantime made a separate screen with all exchanges [14-Jun-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: there is an error in the master base planner Oo [14-Jun-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashburnh** joined.* [14-Jun-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alt-Trade** left.* [14-Jun-22 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Why the hell this price dumping @Vitus [14-Jun-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: haha competition is rough [14-Jun-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vitus**: heheh, sorry pretty new to this game [14-Jun-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yeah but 10.43 would be enough, that is still under my price and set you to the first place [14-Jun-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: everything under 10.43 is burning your profit [14-Jun-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vitus**: Hmm, I shall change my order. Thank you for the advice [14-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: undercutting by 0.01 might make sense in case of fuel, but in most cases it's just annoying [14-Jun-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: ^ [14-Jun-22 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: maybe, but Vitus and I are both two new fuel producers [14-Jun-22 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i am not talking about ship parts or something [14-Jun-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: just don't be surprised when someone undercuts _you_ 5mins later. waste of time [14-Jun-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: could have bought at 9.9 and take the spread as proft but I don't have the cash :D [14-Jun-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and if I go down for 5 CIS, there is exactly the same chance to be undercut! [14-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: nope- 5 is really low, most people will just wait it out and let you sell at a loss [14-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: depends on the volume [14-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ture [14-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: true* [14-Jun-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 5 was "Brain make me a random number. thanks" [14-Jun-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: This will only works with rational homo economicus. but the truth is, most people are simply to stupid to know economic mechanisms [14-Jun-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: that sounds a bit rude [14-Jun-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: truth [14-Jun-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I prefer to think they just excel at something else :D [14-Jun-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Most people pretend to be able to make rational decisions, but in the end they are emotionally satisfied [14-Jun-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: yes, emotions are strong, but arguably they find a reasonable balance between rational and emotional given the time constraints [14-Jun-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: without at least basic understanding of economy, most people would quit this game after a few days [14-Jun-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jackrann** joined.* [14-Jun-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Know or think they know? [14-Jun-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: this game would be considered as a job by most people I would guess :D [14-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raubkater** left.* [14-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: @Christian-Alexander I think you're over simplifying the matter. Selling at a higher price is not necessarily the most beneficial in all scenarios, there are many other aspects to take into consideration. For example it might be more beneficial to move product quickly, get an earlier(but slightly lower) payout so that you can reinvest that money into your business so that maybe you'll be able to make even more product to sell in the time you otherwise would've spent fighting for pennies [14-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: In the mass it is not fighting for pennies [14-Jun-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But your scenario implies that your complete liquide assets are gone [14-Jun-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: that you are broken [14-Jun-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Well, especially in the beginning you rarely have the liquid assets for your next expansion just laying around [14-Jun-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and that you are able to reinvest the money in a better activity ... better in the meaning better interest as the fighting for pennies [14-Jun-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: my price was 10.40 and his 9.40. That is nearly 10% down [14-Jun-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and not a fight for pennies [14-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: fyi, being in a bigger corp with set corp prices makes things a lot easier [14-Jun-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: 9.40? That doesn't make sense with the current order book [14-Jun-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: That is a difference in EBIT marge from nearly 8 percent points [14-Jun-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: @Rasd was this a hidden recruitment? [14-Jun-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: Depends [14-Jun-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: do you want to contest with my 29 SF REFs on Katoa on the CX (: [14-Jun-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***universe04644** joined.* [14-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Am I not already doing this in some way? [14-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: are you though? :V [14-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: but joking aside, we are always happy to take in new players and help them with, well, everything [14-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I think so, Grunk says I fight for pennies [14-Jun-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Are we talking about the Benten CX? Because the highest buyer is currently at 9.86 so if his price was 9.40 he would've sold [14-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: we have for example a good stream of AMM, GAL and H sorted out in corp [14-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: CURRENTLY, as I said this to Vitus it was under it [14-Jun-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: and my big ship might or might not be on its way to the CXL with 2000 H its gonna dump there [14-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: And he placed for 9.40, where all others are 10.45 10.44 ... [14-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: oh, and we have cookies [14-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: And again I feel so insignificant and small [14-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Are you sure about 9.40? Because there are a total of 12 buy orders for 9.40 or above [14-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: ah dont worry, everyone started small [14-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: for the first two months or so I was happy with 500 CIS profit a day [14-Jun-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yes [14-Jun-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: as I told him, he goes up to 10.40 [14-Jun-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Better get used to penny pinching on the CX guys [14-Jun-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: two months sounds like a long time [14-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: or 9.60. He put it for the price in the third column, the [14-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wouldn't worry too much though, people regularly buy large sums in batches [14-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: ye..its very hard to get over 100k so you can build more production in any proper scale [14-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: nowadays I buy HQ level ups and slap everything on the planet at once lol [14-Jun-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: awww yeaah [14-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: planning a whole 500 base deployment myself [14-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hit and run [14-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: that's more or less my target, 100k seems like a good capital to arrange a business [14-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: it feels pretty good to, for example, slap in 3 FRMs instead of just one and see the production per day rise :) [14-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need someone to fly some stuff to Proxion, and then bring back a full 5,000 CIS load to Benten [14-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone got an FTL ship lying about [14-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: but I am also quite the bottom feeder, doing only simple stuff like fuel, agriculture or water [14-Jun-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Rasd, that's what keeps the economy moving [14-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you stop filling my fuel bids at low prices [14-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: my shipping grinds to a halt [14-Jun-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and then OVE, PWO, BHP, LHP, a dozen electronics items, and a lot of ores, metals, and minerals, all drop by noticeable percentage points [14-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: hehe [14-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hisokus** left.* [14-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I am in a bit of a pickle because 1) molp is on vacation rn which means 2) I have no HE3 which means 3) no new FF. But I buy some on the CXL [14-Jun-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: better slow my burn down hahaha [14-Jun-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I mean, I have 19k FF on EW if that helps? :V [14-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: 12k on Katoa..but Umbra and Prox are pretty much empty [14-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sounds awful [14-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: my fuel bunker is 4,800 FF and 19,800 SF right now [14-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: should last a bit :p [14-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: more on the station and traces on my various planets [14-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah at least a week [14-Jun-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: but, yeah, to the two new players, I recommend a corp because most trading is done in corp, to affordable prices and with fairly stable demand and supply [14-Jun-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or, don't join a corp, free lance, befriend all and become a superpower anyway :) [14-Jun-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: "You can certainly try" - Matt Mercer [14-Jun-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: :D [14-Jun-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well I did :) [14-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Same here! Lone wolfs FTW! XD [14-Jun-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: At least i don't have to worry about molp going on vaccation ;P [14-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: 10% bonus is tempting at some point [14-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @neke86 what's your BHP price? I will need some in a few days [14-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: more advanced contracts would help with stable demand and supply [14-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Isn't more advanced contracts the next big thing they're currently working on? [14-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: it's on the roadmap [14-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: More control over the contract system, allowing to design custom contracts, for example loans or supply contracts including delivery locations and dates. [14-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcanii_JP** left.* [14-Jun-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Will be sweet for sure [14-Jun-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've run dry of AL and still completing an order but in a few days might be okay for BHJP [14-Jun-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP* [14-Jun-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: quite sure it's going to be PRO gated :D [14-Jun-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Without PRO i wouldn't be playing this game still XD [14-Jun-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: I like it so far, probably will get one month once I feel ready and they deserve it [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, I have 80AL for sale :) [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yoiu have my attention [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: (well, not yet no Katoa, but in 2d) [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 48 hours [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's several lifetimes away [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: haha [14-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nullstring**: activate hyperdrives D: [14-Jun-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyway, market reference price for BHP given the shortage of AL is about 2,200-2,600 per unit [14-Jun-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pleasingly, for some bizarre reason, STL is available in abundance below 900 [14-Jun-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: On Arclight the 22nd of April some lucky bastard bought 5500 AL for 275/u :'( [14-Jun-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That has to be arranged? [14-Jun-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: AT no point was 275 a fair price for market AL [14-Jun-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And Arclight is hardly a proper CX [14-Jun-22 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Well, on arclight it probably could be arranged without too much risk of someone sniping the deal [14-Jun-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah if you're the only bid [14-Jun-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK, actually I'll have 80AL here in ~32h. anyone wants that for 520/u? or should I fly to ben cx? [14-Jun-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 500 and it's a deal [14-Jun-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK, post it [14-Jun-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well bargained and done [14-Jun-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sooho** joined.* [14-Jun-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***opeatomic** joined.* [14-Jun-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackjack0929** left.* [14-Jun-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Are we lacking AL? I can pump out a bit if we need some [14-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***opeatomic** left.* [14-Jun-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We do [14-Jun-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FastFreight** left.* [14-Jun-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnyBlaze** left.* [14-Jun-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Butxot** left.* [14-Jun-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gioni** joined.* [14-Jun-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***noname6548** joined.* [14-Jun-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nathanralph** joined.* [14-Jun-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sanderp1** joined.* [14-Jun-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 300 C in stock for immediate delivery, dm me if you wish to buy any [14-Jun-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CthulhuTimes** joined.* [14-Jun-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***randomgmail** left.* [14-Jun-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fwoeni** joined.* [14-Jun-22 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CBIX** joined.* [15-Jun-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grinny** joined.* [15-Jun-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Safe-for-work-name** joined.* [15-Jun-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hades0248** joined.* [15-Jun-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jamsjelly** left.* [15-Jun-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone want anything taken to uv-072c [15-Jun-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***h.** left.* [15-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: H2O.CI1 [15-Jun-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Get in while you can guys [15-Jun-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Before the day traders turn up to gIvE tHe mArkEt mOrE LiqUidiTy [15-Jun-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nicster** deleted this message.* [15-Jun-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: haha neke, i am so sick of this argument as well :-D [15-Jun-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just going to drown them myself. [15-Jun-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: NeOLiBeRaLiSm yay! [15-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: *coughs* [15-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I won't say anything about that now [15-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I am to tired for that ^^ [15-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hey if free market economics allows for that, it allows for irrational mega corporations to rapidly oversupply the market and drive down prices just because they can [15-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: all's free in capitalism baby [15-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nur der KostenfΓΌhrer ΓΌberlebt [15-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahahahahah [15-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I don't say anything against it [15-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: You support a mass of small companies with cheap water [15-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: H2O.CI1 [15-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: So they can make cheap RATs out of it [15-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: And cheap DW [15-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and that's good for me [15-Jun-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: or their margin [15-Jun-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [15-Jun-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but now, I need more coffee. preferred as an IV directly in my veins [15-Jun-22 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: amen christian [15-Jun-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 3...2...1...rain storms into the room :-D [15-Jun-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: he can't get us here [15-Jun-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: we're safe neke [15-Jun-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: he can't destroy our dreams of helping smaller companies in here :-D [15-Jun-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Exactly [15-Jun-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: btw, i who wants cheap PE? [15-Jun-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hey thats my line of work! [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: woops sorry, i said nothing, go to neke for cheap PE [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nah it's fine ;) [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's what Katoa is for :D [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what's your price neke? [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 4.2 on the cx [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can sell for the same, without undercutting you [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was joking man [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: :-D [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: there's so much PE [15-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: i have another 37K here [15-Jun-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: who destroyed you dream of helping? [15-Jun-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: What do you make out of so much PE? [15-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hard to say.. [15-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: oh come please no sextons or something kinky like that [15-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: maybe 50-52K profit [15-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: for trading, not for production? [15-Jun-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh that's profit from selling PE [15-Jun-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You mean, what would you construct out of it? [15-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I thought you bought it to build some high tech components or so [15-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I use a lot of my own stuff making OVE, STR, BGC, BCO [15-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wouldn't buy that much PE, but others woud [15-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it certainly sells [15-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its a base to lots of recpies [15-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The ads for MCG and RAT have expired un-taken, so I will be contributing those myself [15-Jun-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Wait, I wasn't on LM. You have some MCG and RATs? Wait, where is my spreadsheeeet [15-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I would take 70 RATs and 120 MCG. Is that possible? [15-Jun-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No, I was asking for 2,000 MCG and 1,000 RAT [15-Jun-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: To supply the upcoming COGC [15-Jun-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: whooop, misunderstanding SRY [15-Jun-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can fill the mcg if there is nobody else [15-Jun-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i wanted to let someone else take it since i took PE and DW. [15-Jun-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [15-Jun-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll re-post it [15-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [15-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: my 200RAT buy ad is still hanging on LM - can anyone fill it today please? I have supply for 1d only so it's an emergency [15-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if 65/u is not good enough, let me know [15-Jun-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ty @neke86 [15-Jun-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: filled [15-Jun-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: appreciated [15-Jun-22 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aerouant** joined.* [15-Jun-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tugnut** joined.* [15-Jun-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LhatsDlopoel** joined.* [15-Jun-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ciaone** left.* [15-Jun-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Is there anyway I can add a construction efficiency gain to my HQ? [15-Jun-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: hq in another faction region [15-Jun-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Then add more HQ permits to scale it up [15-Jun-22 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Better off moving nearby to Gibson where the COGC is construction.. [15-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Gotcha. Trying every way possible to increase my efficiency. Thanks for the response. [15-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: AS you get experts keep adding them on [15-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you get to four quickly, which is about 19-20% [15-Jun-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LulzwhatX** left.* [15-Jun-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marshimus** left.* [15-Jun-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how do i delete a add on the LM [15-Jun-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: accept my own contract?? [15-Jun-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: LMOS [15-Jun-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: there you find all your ads [15-Jun-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thanks [15-Jun-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: much better lol [15-Jun-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST on the market, 20-30% discount to CX [15-Jun-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything taken to the station leaving in a hour [15-Jun-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banana_Lynx** joined.* [15-Jun-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: I posted an add [15-Jun-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: rating is to high :( [15-Jun-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: stupid stability [15-Jun-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: give me a second [15-Jun-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: <3 [15-Jun-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have a full cargo hold to go up [15-Jun-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and 480/480 to bring back down [15-Jun-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: have 356/356 to head to the station in less then 30mins [15-Jun-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: How long will you need to the station? [15-Jun-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: eventually I have something else to transport [15-Jun-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 3 hours but leaving in 10mins so if its a bit longer i can wait [15-Jun-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: still have space [15-Jun-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: is out [15-Jun-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 228 space for anyone leaving soon [15-Jun-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: is out [15-Jun-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ship full [15-Jun-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: you're welcome ;) [15-Jun-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: lol if u have anything u want from the station down ill have a ship in 3 hours there [15-Jun-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 480/480 from ben to katoa if anyone needs anything moved [15-Jun-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: leaving in 2 hours [15-Jun-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ALPACA** left.* [15-Jun-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: thanks for that fast delivery [15-Jun-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 480/480 from the station down to the planet leaving in 30 mins [15-Jun-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: no prob christian we strive for speed [15-Jun-22 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: how is your C business going? [15-Jun-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: growing this trip up to the station was to get the build mats for a second incinirator [15-Jun-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: inc was for making C out of plants, right? [15-Jun-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea [15-Jun-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have enough farm just not enough burning [15-Jun-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: burn baby burn [15-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @gilith if u lower the rating ill bring that down now [15-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: my finances havent been rated so i cant :( [15-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: why? you're reliability A [15-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: overal [15-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ah, OK [15-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: im still p [15-Jun-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 480 /480 if u have more to send [15-Jun-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: space left [15-Jun-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: how long will the flight take? [15-Jun-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 2-3 hours [15-Jun-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: perfect, then I can build one more farm before I sleep :) [15-Jun-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone else want to ship stuff from station to the planet [15-Jun-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: What else should I be making (agriculture) besides RAT? What should I expand into that is profitable and helps? [15-Jun-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: more rats or water [15-Jun-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you could also run INC [15-Jun-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aibwa** left.* [15-Jun-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: leaving station now last call [15-Jun-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Markxal** left.* [15-Jun-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sahru** joined.* [15-Jun-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***albionmage** left.* [15-Jun-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have accidently received payment in other currencies. Is there anyone here that would like 150 AIC and or 2250 NCC as payment for some consumable? [15-Jun-22 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapCarCap** joined.* [15-Jun-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alpineBLVCK** joined.* [15-Jun-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YourThrow** left.* [15-Jun-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZhigZhog** joined.* [15-Jun-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is someone available to do a fast burn KAT > BEN ? [15-Jun-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 500t, 2,500 cis [15-Jun-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: actuallyy nvm [15-Jun-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: new plan [15-Jun-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: list it here on LM [15-Jun-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put 1,250 H2O.CI1 on the LM with 10-day payment terms for smaller players [15-Jun-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Available for immediate fulfilment [15-Jun-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've also posted BHP.CI1 [15-Jun-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The 210,000 CIS COGC upkeep bill has been satisfied, and all other major POPI is steady at +26 days of supply. [16-Jun-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What's the actual german? Ueberbringer? [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 65 space left kat>ben [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call for ship heading to ben from kat [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: got 65 space left [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah ill send some [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one moment [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ah thats too big damnit [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: will i can send another ship too [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeh just take that one [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMOS isnt loading [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can't fix any ccontracts [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: to high rating -_- [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: neke is fio.fnar down? if i click on planet search and there on the search button, nothing is loading [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: mine won't even load search [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: gets stuck on 71% loading data [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PSA: Just be aware that the C-rated shipping contracts on the LM are: [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1. At a terrible rate, and [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2. In a different currency [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: NCC is moria, right? [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: He ships GAL [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: You can change NCC in CIS nearly 1:1 [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can quite comfortably be getting 2-3K per shipload though, not 1,000 [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and NCC isn't worth near as much as CIS [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's basically monopoly money at this point ;) [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what? [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Inflation over on Moria CX is quite high [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So low-balling people here with an inflated currency is insult to injury [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: no, they have a deflation, not inflation [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Fuel prices dropped 18% last two days [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and I try to sell fuel in ben for around 3 days and no one is buying. they undercut my prices, or if I am the cheapest for a few hours, no one buys [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it's annoying at the moment [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sf? [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's nearly infinite demand about 9/u [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just sell it [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i want more! more profit! more more every time more! [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it's only a few percent [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you can sell SF at 9 right away. If you can wait put it at 10 and in 24h you should sell it [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sell it at 10 right away [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: list it at 10 it'll disappear [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and hope Hyperion doesnt get bored and permanently keep the price at 6.01 [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: lol [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: with his production quantities its quite possible :) [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: time to pay back the loans and delete the account .... O.o [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but it would kill all smaller producer. When you start price lower then 8 is hard to accept [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: then he can raise the price again [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: It is really time to payback loans and delete account Oo. That aren't very good chances for the future [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahaha [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think you need a H supply you control [16-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a base on CB-282d, or a regular supplier [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GothaXI** joined.* [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nicster is my regular supplier [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: finding supplier is not the problem. the problem is that refining makes no money if Hyperion dump it down to 6 [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: lets all hope that Hyperion is nice enough to not do it :) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: if he is cost leader, he could kill every small and middle fuel producer with one giant hit [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: at that point i would just play dead and stock pile [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I'm not sure if he can supply demand for all CXs [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: there is space besides Hyperion for sure. You just can't insist on selling SF for 10-11. SF has been around 7 historically and you can defenitely make profit around that price. you just have to do it at scale. There will always be people buying fuel. So i would say you started at e very good moment to sell fuel. [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: It is a slow game at the beginning and one hast to accept that. no need in rushing everything. You will all find your niche and your profits. [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I remember that when I started 60 days ago price was around 7 and it was better to use your fuel to do shipping runs then to sell it [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: shipping contracts from Nicster keeps me running :) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: even at 6 there's profit and at some point you won't have the shipping capacity to do contracts :-) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Nicster, we had that discussion a few days ago. ;-) 7 is under Material costs. With 7 it is more efficient to produce the materials and sell them instead of making fuel out of it. The profit you made comes from the materials you produce yourself, and not from refining it [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and scale effects, well... a newbie hasn't 5 experts in fuel refining and 5 in extraction [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's why it's a very good time to be starting in Fuel :) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes, those SF prices right now are crazy :) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and if you check Moria price... :D [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: talking about shipping i have a free ship to take cargo :P [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: it's not that simple. you can't sell infinite amounts of the inputs, so at some point you will need to refine some of it. good example is PG (well not at the moment). But there were times where you had to refine PG and sell the products for a lower margin than the PG itself. but in the end you made more profits immediatly. [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: well the high prices brings me nothing if no one will buy at that price. since yesterday I have ask orders for around 100.000 cis. [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is buy request in BEN for 14k SF at 9.9 [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: or just post it at katoa LM. I sell around 1-2k SF for 10 per day here [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: yes you can do! you can sell infinite amounts of the inputs! with no problem. but at some point, when no one is buying the inputs, the input price will fall and the sf price will raise... so that refining is worth it again.... coming to the point where the fuel price is falling and input prices are raising, refining is unworthy.... and we begin from the start [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Or you will find an equilibrium... [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: neke, 1DW for 189k? It's water from Arrakis? :) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it is the golden rat [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: in form of DW [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: it is a loan or a special extra payment for something [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I know. But it looks funny [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha yes! it's the water of the maker :) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: from the depths of sietch neke [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: the water of life? [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Shai-Hulud! [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but isn't it the water of the bringer, not of the maker? or is an translate issue? [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's the water of life, from the bile of drowned sandworm [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: possibly a translation thing [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Shai-Hulud! [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: in German he is the bringer [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: is in English he the maker? [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That.. makes sense [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Okay i wanna see you sell infinite amount of SIO :-D. If you found out how, tell me :-D [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: "The Fremen also refer to the sandworms as "Makers" or "Shai-Hulud"." [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I guess the point is that it's a very very poisonous DW and you shouldn't take it unless you know exactly what to do with it ;) [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Okay. Maker in English. I know bringer from german translation [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: For Shai-Hulud and Muadβ€˜Dib! [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can see thematically that's a pretty good translation [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: in PL translation it's also maker [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Poland? [16-Jun-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: bringer… bringer of the spice… i think the translation is okay [16-Jun-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 497 space left from ben to kat leaving in about 2 hours [16-Jun-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere162590086** left.* [16-Jun-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ship leaving in 10 mins from ben to kat 497 space left [16-Jun-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I might have some contracts one second [16-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Two up [16-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call leaving in 5mins [16-Jun-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IAMGOOGLE** left.* [16-Jun-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I need 2 LSE. I am sure someone on Katoa can give me a better price than the CX at the Station. Message me please with an offer. [16-Jun-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Don't forget there is nearly 1,000 H2O.CI1 available here on the LM with 10-day payment terms. [16-Jun-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Priced the same as the CX. [16-Jun-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IsaKobe** left.* [16-Jun-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CdnBass**: Looking for 50 DW will pay 60 per or 3,000. I screwed up and picked up an order when all I wanted to do was read it. I will be posting a ad in a few minutes. [16-Jun-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if I build a storage facility, does it require repairs? [16-Jun-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: no [16-Jun-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benton Stn for Katoa. Anyone need shipments? Lots of space open [16-Jun-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Guess not, I'm away then. Catch ya next time. [16-Jun-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf97473fbad** left.* [16-Jun-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2b7bd22a28** left.* [16-Jun-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreyIllumi** left.* [16-Jun-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***looschap** left.* [16-Jun-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ronaldo.yuri28** joined.* [16-Jun-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N3mo333** joined.* [16-Jun-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CdnBass**: Looking to buy 3 - BBH will pay 4,500. Already an Ad Posted. [16-Jun-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DansM26** joined.* [16-Jun-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chroma** joined.* [16-Jun-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone ened shipping done give me a dm have two ships on standby [16-Jun-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why yess [16-Jun-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Are they here? [16-Jun-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea they are on kat [16-Jun-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: DM [16-Jun-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plu** left.* [16-Jun-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tims20165** left.* [16-Jun-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OcelotMonkey** left.* [16-Jun-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 500/500 x2 open heading to KW-688 - Etherwind (KW-688c) leaving in 30 mins [16-Jun-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: from kat [16-Jun-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trajan_The_Conqueror** left.* [16-Jun-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NopeRope** joined.* [16-Jun-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***feistdabeast** left.* [16-Jun-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Albatross34** left.* [16-Jun-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exaron** left.* [16-Jun-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call for shipments to KW-688 - Etherwind (KW-688c) [16-Jun-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N1KE** left.* [16-Jun-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frienz11** left.* [16-Jun-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eat_my_REDACTED** left.* [16-Jun-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeltaSwing** joined.* [16-Jun-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stragenor** left.* [16-Jun-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CielBleuPs2** left.* [17-Jun-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stefanakisgr** left.* [17-Jun-22 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: neue, do you have some TRU on Katoa or BEN? [17-Jun-22 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: neke, sry auto correction [17-Jun-22 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Or someone else? [17-Jun-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: hi C-A, i have some at umbra, have a ship that will come tomorrow from umbra to katoa [17-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HaildatGunpoent** left.* [17-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Hey Wilger, no inconveniences. If you come anyway, then gladly. [17-Jun-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone going from BEN to Katoa? I need 30m3 shipped here in next 12h [17-Jun-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dark_Soul** joined.* [17-Jun-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ive got TRU [17-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SIO.CI1 slowly getting more affordable on Benten for my fellow manufacturers [17-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will bringing several hundred more units over the coming week or so [17-Jun-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Trying to seal in that price ceiling of ~60/u [17-Jun-22 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: aiming to do similar with LST.CI1 but people are scooping it off my LM fast as I extract it [17-Jun-22 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So just message me if you wish to book cheap shiploads of LST. [17-Jun-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Anyone making any flux? There seems to be a shortage for it [17-Jun-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***adrisaw019** left.* [17-Jun-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Are any KCC players online? [17-Jun-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: hi ? [17-Jun-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Glowe** joined.* [17-Jun-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hi [17-Jun-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vladlen** joined.* [17-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: >MANUFACTURING> Price ceiling on SIO.CI1 dropped to 50/u for over 1,000 units. [17-Jun-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 12 BHP.CI1 on the LM at the moment and 96 more coming in 48 hours. CX price is 2,500; I'll fill buys here at 2,250, or lower for established trading partners. Long payment times are available for all buyers. Send me a DM if you wish to purchase before the CX. [17-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dps4140** left.* [17-Jun-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PoppaZy** left.* [17-Jun-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Has anyone got RFabs for sale here on Katoa? [17-Jun-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Excuse my ignorance.. I'm a noob. What is an RFab? [17-Jun-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a reinforced prefab for constructing buildings [17-Jun-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: RBH, RDE etc [17-Jun-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Ok thanks.. Don't have have any. [17-Jun-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6c920769e1** left.* [17-Jun-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christian-Alexander** deleted this message.* [17-Jun-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ReaperOfSouls** joined.* [17-Jun-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSpaceXplorer** joined.* [17-Jun-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks for the vote of confidence Katoa :) [17-Jun-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krait86** joined.* [17-Jun-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver21** left.* [17-Jun-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I just made enough money to start building another collector. [17-Jun-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am so happy [17-Jun-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TorgerNosoTTV** joined.* [17-Jun-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 You are doing a great job running Katoa. I have no complaints. I have not voted on anything, because I do not understand it enough. I will chat to learn more later so I can start voting and helping with stuff. [17-Jun-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Anyone flying Umbra -> Katoa soon? Have a small shipment. [17-Jun-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: full load? [17-Jun-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I got you [17-Jun-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Thanx [17-Jun-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have 20 FLX and would like to trade it for 5 CAF. Anyone interested message me. [17-Jun-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user00c605668b** left.* [17-Jun-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae19f619bd** left.* [17-Jun-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: OK, I'm going dark for a few months. [17-Jun-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: Should I sell everything and retain MATS and ship repaid stuff? [17-Jun-22 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Chaldon**: or just quit because the cleaner will remove my acct after 2 months? [17-Jun-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6cb9217f06** left.* [17-Jun-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***steelchopstick** joined.* [17-Jun-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do you have PRO @Chaldon? I don’t think they ever get deleted [17-Jun-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: even if you stop paying [17-Jun-22 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***steelchopstick** left.* [17-Jun-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Graufalke** joined.* [18-Jun-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EugisOne** joined.* [18-Jun-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***InterplanetaryWhisky** left.* [18-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fishguts** joined.* [18-Jun-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6a93ecb805** left.* [18-Jun-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userabff2ec643** left.* [18-Jun-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything taken from ben to kat? [18-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyven** joined.* [18-Jun-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deaders** joined.* [18-Jun-22 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edenhall** joined.* [18-Jun-22 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user857d4e8c8f** left.* [18-Jun-22 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need more stuff taken from ben to kat [18-Jun-22 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes, 114t [18-Jun-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: post it [18-Jun-22 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: posted [18-Jun-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 320 space left leaving in 15mins from ben to kat [18-Jun-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: If I knew how I would probably say yes. But just started :D [18-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: Think you'd need pro to post a contract for marine to accept anyways [18-Jun-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Ah okay! [18-Jun-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: *think* [18-Jun-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: The fact that my workforce hasn't gone on strike yet amazes me. They've been working for about an hour now and have no coffee. *shock* [18-Jun-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: wait...To place an ad, you must own a base or warehouse unit on the planet where the market is located. However, ads can be accepted by anyone (with a PRO or BASIC license). [18-Jun-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: PRO user companies are assigned trust ratings and can place or accept orders on the local markets. This includes posting and accepting shipping contracts. [18-Jun-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: Yea, so you would need pro [18-Jun-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Aha okay, thanks Tugnut :) [18-Jun-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: Just to double check! [18-Jun-22 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: A bit surprised theres no command for a calculator. [18-Jun-22 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: "basic" is expired pro, you don't have basic @Tugnut [18-Jun-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: just need one month pro then once it expires you are basic for ever [18-Jun-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone have anything from ben to prox dm me have a full ship emtpy [18-Jun-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tugnut**: I never said I had basic? [18-Jun-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamer_dog** joined.* [18-Jun-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IXTO** joined.* [18-Jun-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Can TS be collected here? [18-Jun-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: or is it collected somewhere else? [18-Jun-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: somewhere else [18-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hello Christian! [18-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: xh-594c [18-Jun-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: 5 jumps from here [18-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: has a concentration of 20% [18-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Hi Smitty [18-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: THank you. I might setup my second base there. [18-Jun-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: How is life? [18-Jun-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: argh, it has low gravity and low temps. you need building materials for it [18-Jun-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: No problem. Making some good money right now. [18-Jun-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: how is business? how is life? [18-Jun-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: For what do you need TS? HE3? [18-Jun-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: But the TS has a high weight. You can ship only 208 at once. [18-Jun-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I plan to make FTL next. I want to fully fund my shipping company [18-Jun-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: fund = autarc? [18-Jun-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: self-sufficient [18-Jun-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: exactly [18-Jun-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: cool, so production for sel-sufficiency and money making with your shipping company? [18-Jun-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: exactly. [18-Jun-22 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Then I can import more items cheaper to help our planet. [18-Jun-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Not the planet, more the people on it. [18-Jun-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: lets make katoa great again [18-Jun-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Wait, that was someone else [18-Jun-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Katoa has been and always will be GREAT! [18-Jun-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: thanks to neke for that! [18-Jun-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: he does a great job as leader and manager [18-Jun-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yes he does [18-Jun-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: hi neke [18-Jun-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: An Emperor’s first duty, is to his people after all. [18-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: i thought world domination?! [18-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Look after your people and they look after you empire, and then it grows :) [18-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: philosopic [18-Jun-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: but really, thanks for your good job and all your help and wisdom for us newbies [18-Jun-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: Will someone fly from katoa to ben station today? i will have a small package to transport. if someone have a little niche left on his ship [18-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will tomorrow. Sorry not today. [18-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: and now he is to shy to say something? [18-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: no problem. it is really a small package. nothing for what i will send my whole ship. so i asked [18-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have 3t empty on my ship when it launches in 5 hrs [18-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: okay, this is really full. ;) [18-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Christian-Alexander**: what are you transporting, if i may ask [18-Jun-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: 2 shipments for people. 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[19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: good afternoon [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How was your day Gilith? [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: good so far, thank you :) [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thats awesome! [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: What did you do today? [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: working on a script for trading between CXes [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: actually, on a UI for it [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: FIO APIs being down make it difficult though :/ [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Samoth** joined.* [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: All that stuff is big brain to me. [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thats why I stick to shipping and making fuel. [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Kinda like being your own drug dealer. [19-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same as making RAT/DW [19-Jun-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yup [19-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AranCortez** left.* [19-Jun-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: About to leave Benten Station back to Katoa, I have 480m3/469t left to fill. Anyone need anything shipped? [19-Jun-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: alright Launching [19-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Etc_ICE** joined.* [19-Jun-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ClockwiseSymphony** left.* [19-Jun-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: what are your shipping rates smitty? [19-Jun-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iv_bxm** left.* [19-Jun-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalentFrei** joined.* [19-Jun-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: selling 800 fuel cheap @ less than 9 per [19-Jun-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_yomomz**: ad up on lm [19-Jun-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Have any FTL to sell? 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[19-Jun-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 470 space [19-Jun-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flabblegast** left.* [19-Jun-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ex-Executioner** joined.* [19-Jun-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MysticWyer** left.* [19-Jun-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deathscithe** joined.* [19-Jun-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilverWolf022010** left.* [20-Jun-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deej0** joined.* [20-Jun-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrEastwood** joined.* [20-Jun-22 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jezika6** left.* [20-Jun-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone want 120space of stuff moved from prox to kat leaving in 20 [20-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deej0** left.* [20-Jun-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrEastwood** left.* [20-Jun-22 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Camyoyo** left.* [20-Jun-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: morning everyone [20-Jun-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Hello Marine [20-Jun-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how are u doing [20-Jun-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: carbon for sale on LM dm free to neg [20-Jun-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krabjuk** left.* [20-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***elena197519751** joined.* [20-Jun-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Good Morning my fellow Katoan's! [20-Jun-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: hi smitty, what are you shipping rates? [20-Jun-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: *your [20-Jun-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: 7 per ton [20-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ok thanks [20-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will be making runs all day today [20-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How much are you needing shipped. [20-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: nothing at the moment, but i keep missing you when i need to ask [20-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: And if you are just asking cause you plan to start doing shipping I am more than happy to help you get started. [20-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How are you doing xiq? [20-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: well i used to do shipping but *someone* is taking all the jobs :P [20-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Who would do a thing like that?!!!! [20-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: lol [20-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Want to know a future shipping seceret [20-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: secret [20-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ? [20-Jun-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I think that shipping company will be closed for 5 days coming up. [20-Jun-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Starting Saturday at midnight (Texas Time) till Thursday! [20-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: but don't tell anyone. [20-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: its just between you, me, and the logs [20-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I got one more camp to do coming up. 2 weeks ago it was Youth camp, this time it is kids camp. [20-Jun-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Atleast the kids entertain themselves. Youth you have to entertain them. [20-Jun-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: non-youthful kids? kids wise beyond their years then [20-Jun-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I love kids, they are so brutuly honest. It really pains me when parents let them grow up too fast. [20-Jun-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: xiq what are you making currently? [20-Jun-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: mostly carbon [20-Jun-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How well are you doing selling carbon? [20-Jun-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: havent COLIQ'd yet.. so okay? :P [20-Jun-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jonathon** joined.* [20-Jun-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I COLIQ'd twice on carbon. First time cause I did not understand how to setup. The second time I just did not understand the game mechanics and did not like carbon. [20-Jun-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: it seems to be slow but that suits at the moment. can maybe buy a new building a week [20-Jun-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ive done only minimal spreadsheeting so there are plenty of surprises, like running out of storage [20-Jun-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have not hit storage limit, but I also move the fuel I make to other places so I have refueling stations. [20-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i started extracting GAL and AMM but havent build facilities for processing it info fuel yet [20-Jun-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: So you need a refinery [20-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: yeah, and im short an HB too [20-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i run a sloppy operation :P [20-Jun-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Eh you learn as you go [20-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***I-O** left.* [20-Jun-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyoen need anything taken from kat to ben [20-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 267/289 left [20-Jun-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apolder** left.* [20-Jun-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StormBastion** joined.* [20-Jun-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***QJot** left.* [20-Jun-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***collinvc** joined.* [20-Jun-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6956dbd32e** left.* [20-Jun-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***masterwis** joined.* [20-Jun-22 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0bbf2eac8d** left.* [20-Jun-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThemEmers** joined.* [20-Jun-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rater193** joined.* [20-Jun-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asuramaru** joined.* [20-Jun-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfbc51ee07** left.* [20-Jun-22 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyper4K** joined.* [20-Jun-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9394907539** left.* [20-Jun-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gammalaser** joined.* [20-Jun-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user630c8b1e7d** left.* [20-Jun-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ludvvigh** left.* [20-Jun-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 2000 MCG available, dm if interested (minmum order 500) [20-Jun-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: anyone selling FLX? 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[21-Jun-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have something for ben from umbra [21-Jun-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: very small [21-Jun-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: two things actually. posted them [21-Jun-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: on umbra [21-Jun-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ikbenjamin** joined.* [21-Jun-22 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call leaving in 20 from umbra to ben have 401t and 433m3 left [21-Jun-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ikbenjamin**: hey, I just joined and am watching the tutorials, does this planet have a commodity exchange, I dont know where to find that [21-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: There is one in system [21-Jun-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Psycho994_GER** left.* [21-Jun-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: On the universe map it is the hexogen shape, should be near the triangle (as we are in the same system as it) [21-Jun-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ikbenjamin** left.* [21-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: There are systems (Sun with planets) and planets that are within a system. 6 systems in the universe also have commodity exchanges that go around the star like planets. So in terms of flying to the cx it's the same as if you would fly to a planet. The Benten System which Katoa is part of has a CX. [21-Jun-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Remley** joined.* [21-Jun-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nikitatishchenko9** joined.* [21-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitsune** left.* [21-Jun-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FOD buy ad up for POPI, please fill if you can! 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[22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how ye doing gov? [22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Good thanks mate [22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you? [22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: na all good just freezing this side [22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Any manufacturers here able to get REP on to the market or shall I do it? [22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't want us all to see the gap and then all get REP there at the same time [22-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***botondmester** joined.* [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need stuff moved from ben to cb282d? [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: Anyone need anything hauling from benten station? [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: To katoa I should add [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: looking for PWO, ad at LM ;) [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wow when did PWO come down so low in price [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: and who is pushig it up? ^^ [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _coughs nervously_ [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @neke I can switch from PWO to REP a little bit [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've begun, if u haven't switched, no need [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a pile of INS [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and good eff. on those FS on Geidi ;) [22-Jun-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need stuff moved from ben? 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[22-Jun-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ja12craft** joined.* [22-Jun-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm bringing in 1,000 COF for sale [22-Jun-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll sell it on the LM at 400/u at up to 100 units per player [22-Jun-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can't take it to the CX without it landing in the hands of Mikal, who will immediately re-list iit at 600/u [22-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you have LM access and want COF, place A-rated buys for 0-100 COF at 400/u [22-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: on 3-day contracts [22-Jun-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: I wish I could, but only have 200 CIS to my name right now :( [22-Jun-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Probably going to be a week before I have produced a decent enough load of fuel to be worth shipping to the exchange [22-Jun-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do you have LM? [22-Jun-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: LM? [22-Jun-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: local market access, have you paid for PRO [22-Jun-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: (Sorry newbie here) [22-Jun-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 200 CIS is dangerously low for paying production fees [22-Jun-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Ah no not gone pro just yet, still seeing if I enjoy this. So far I love it, but it's _very_ slow to get started with. I have some resources just not a lot yet. [22-Jun-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Heck actually I might grab pro, I am quite enjoying this. [22-Jun-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: The first week or slow was slow for me too, but with 2 months in now I have many options and my initial "enjoyment" level has only increased. Welcome Deaders. [22-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Put a COF order up for a majestic 3. =P [22-Jun-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sorry Neke, Ulricia Inc was faster :p [22-Jun-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Argodex** left.* [22-Jun-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: everybody wins [22-Jun-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything taken to ben have half a empty ship [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: There we go, pro now ^^' [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: And thank you! I have a lot left to learn, I decided to go down the fuel production route. Sounded like a safe bet with consistent demand. [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: Yeah, focus on improving your profit output. [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: more profit = faster expansion [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Yeah right now I'm importing Hydrogen to make STL fuel the rest I'm producing myself [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: yeah, I do that myself to double my incinerator output [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're enjoying the game, PRO makes it sliiiightly more enjoyable :) [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyway, now you have PRO, you can sell on the LM here for a small fee rather than shipping [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just bought your FF to celebrate [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: welcome to Katoa friend refiner [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ayyy @Thoern the first to follow written COF instructions [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Oh wow! Thanks!! ^_^ [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And someone else got it! (even better) [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I sell all the consumables you'd need too, so drop me a line when u need to go grocery shopping [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deaders**: Excellent! Good to know! [22-Jun-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Do I smell COF? [22-Jun-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone have PE to sell onLM? [22-Jun-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Manfriendly** joined.* [22-Jun-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I need 1 BBH to complete a project. Ad posted if someone can spare it. Priced at 1250 let me know if this is not reasonable. [22-Jun-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Manfriendly** left.* [22-Jun-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: done mate [22-Jun-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Thanks [22-Jun-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You still need PE? I have 300 [22-Jun-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 1000PE listed [22-Jun-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well I cant beat that lol [22-Jun-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm tired... posted buy ad instead of selling. fixed now [22-Jun-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nathanralph** left.* [22-Jun-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rohan032j11** joined.* [22-Jun-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aligallaton** left.* [22-Jun-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hatlessdog** joined.* [22-Jun-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CthulhuTimes** left.* [23-Jun-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Serene** left.* [23-Jun-22 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Serene** joined.* [23-Jun-22 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Safe-for-work-name** left.* [23-Jun-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: anyone here on katoa got a few carbon i can buy off them ships wont be back until late tomorrow [23-Jun-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grinny** left.* [23-Jun-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fwoeni** left.* [23-Jun-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: if anyone needs anything moved from ben to KAT ship leaving in under a hour [23-Jun-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: marine, I have 6t from ben to kat. Ad posted [23-Jun-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: got it [23-Jun-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thx [23-Jun-22 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: have 440 space still [23-Jun-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TempCorp** left.* [23-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why are you wasting your multi-million dollar starter shifting 60t of gear BEN> KAT still :) [23-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ships can do that for 300 CIS for you while I pay you 10K CIS to retrieve stuff six hours away [23-Jun-22 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: oi neke stop trying ot poach my courier :-) [23-Jun-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: KARR FOR GOVERNOR [23-Jun-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ;-) [23-Jun-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Keep him properly entertained then ;) [23-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i give him full loads from prox to kat for Β£3k, seems fair [23-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah that's good [23-Jun-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 100 CAF for sale, dm if interested [23-Jun-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pirata.capitao** left.* [23-Jun-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST: LMA UV-072c/155 [23-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: neke i want LST, where is the LST on Katoa [23-Jun-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: give me LST [23-Jun-22 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @karr1981 i have 10k PE available if you want [23-Jun-22 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call for ben to KAT [23-Jun-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: hey hey ladies calm down no need to fight @karr19821 and @Neke86 [23-Jun-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i had a last stop on ben so need to get them back to kat [23-Jun-22 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: and for all the newbies, 12k shipping contracts available on LM CB-282d. The money is calculated for both ways, you fly there empty, come back with a shipload to KAT or BEN. Profit per day is around 3-4k depending on the speed you fly. A good speed is one day to go there and one day to come back. [23-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: how much space do you have @marine307? [23-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can fill your ship [23-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 443 m3 and 453 t [23-Jun-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and then if u really need lots moved to kat i do have a empty extra ship @nicster [23-Jun-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: LMA BEN/2972 [23-Jun-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: can i fill that too? [23-Jun-22 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: sure wanted to bring it back to kat [23-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: LMA BEN/2973 [23-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thx [23-Jun-22 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: Carbon for sale on KAT LM [23-Jun-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Got a ship ready to come to katoa from benten anyone need anything moved to here msg me got 480 remaining to be filled if needed. [23-Jun-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aerouant** left.* [23-Jun-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: up to 12 BHP.CI1 available here on Katoa [23-Jun-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: thnx neke for remembering me to buy BHP ;) [23-Jun-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Julian_Falcon** joined.* [23-Jun-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sooho** left.* [23-Jun-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: From me, right? [23-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Goodmorning Neke86 [23-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ahoy smitty [23-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How are you doing? [23-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well thanks [23-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: avoiding my day job [23-Jun-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: governing this ammonia pit [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ;) [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Noooo not you! [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I jest [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Well this ammonia pit is pretty awesome! [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: this is the finest planet in the universe [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I agree [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Full POPI, refiners, farmers, and manufacturers [23-Jun-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: even electronics, and some niche metallurgy [23-Jun-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: very healthy planet<>CX shipping logistics and a good currency [23-Jun-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sign me the fuck up to that [23-Jun-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And water absolutely pouring in from EW thanks to politics, investment, and logistics [23-Jun-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Free medical and dental too [23-Jun-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: absolutely [23-Jun-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I am finishing up some cb-282 d runs for shipments. Those take a while. [23-Jun-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I leave for my last camping trip on saturday for another 5 days. [23-Jun-22 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Got my collectors/extractors/and refinery all set for my time away. [23-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sanderp1** left.* [23-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @neke86 you forgot about the conglomerates like Stonemere Inc who use Katoa as a Hub for everything :-D. [23-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LhatsDlopoel** left.* [23-Jun-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Stonemere is one of my best shipping clients [23-Jun-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: It's my company ;-) [23-Jun-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have messaged you plenty of times on shipping updates. [23-Jun-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i know, i appreciate those messages! [23-Jun-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: When I get back I will have 2000 units of FRESH FTL so I will be ready for more shipping [23-Jun-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***razorsia** joined.* [23-Jun-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deMangler** joined.* [23-Jun-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Multiple FTL shipping contracts posted, including a short-range jump and back to UV-072c paying 6k CIS [23-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @mariners ! [23-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Two more EW contracts available :) Water for the thirsty masses [23-Jun-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything else taken to uv-072c have 470t and m3 open [23-Jun-22 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bluebobz** left.* [23-Jun-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BaronIsh** joined.* [23-Jun-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrRetro** left.* [23-Jun-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evolivolution** left.* [23-Jun-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gioni** left.* [23-Jun-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PizzaCow** joined.* [23-Jun-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoSalmon** left.* [23-Jun-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sahru** left.* [23-Jun-22 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapCarCap** left.* [23-Jun-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alpineBLVCK** left.* [23-Jun-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AyeegaJim** left.* [23-Jun-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CBIX** left.* [23-Jun-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThomastheDankEngine** left.* [23-Jun-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RandomSirNameDotCom** left.* [23-Jun-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZhigZhog** left.* [24-Jun-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sumitsatyajeet** left.* [24-Jun-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abdicate** joined.* [24-Jun-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abdicate** left.* [24-Jun-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reddog** left.* [24-Jun-22 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Need some BFabs quick. LM with top prices are at the LM. [24-Jun-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: filled [24-Jun-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***P_K_Blinder** joined.* [24-Jun-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_BRUH_** left.* [24-Jun-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: thanks [24-Jun-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Helotrix** joined.* [24-Jun-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ritteruk** left.* [24-Jun-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Quite lucrative shipping contract from ben d to prox if somebody is interested. LMA UV-351d/304 [24-Jun-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I got you [24-Jun-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***noname6548** left.* [24-Jun-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***w4e** joined.* [24-Jun-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: about to leave from KAT to etherwind [24-Jun-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: have a full empty ship if anyone wants [24-Jun-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm looking for 1-2k of PG; please PM your offers [24-Jun-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Think that's a bit of a seller's market there.. [24-Jun-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you might have to make an offer [24-Jun-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I did, it has expired though. I'm looking for regular supply, 1-2k/week [24-Jun-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I don't expect LM LG-418b prices, but at 25/u it's expensive [24-Jun-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, ad posted [24-Jun-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WellFedCat** joined.* [24-Jun-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Anyone need 100 Oxygen? [24-Jun-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N3mo333** left.* [24-Jun-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I think I am going to just make fuel and continue shipping hardcore when I get back. [24-Jun-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Need to make more fuel so I can run my ships a bit harder. [24-Jun-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wow maybe i shoulfd list my bargain RATs, only 150/u...............lol [24-Jun-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I have about 10 days to convince my pioneers to start eating OVEs :D [24-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: About to make a run from Katoa to Benten Station, anyone need anything shipped? [24-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: RAT.CI1 [24-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: all supply below mm price is gone... [24-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: Jesus christ, you're right. what the heck lol [24-Jun-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehehe [24-Jun-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: start with the PWO [24-Jun-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: nah, no PG, can't produce PWO [24-Jun-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Fixed it. [24-Jun-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hades0248** left.* [24-Jun-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ty. still more expensive than OVE though ;) [24-Jun-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: is there a corp here that I can appy? [24-Jun-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: apply* [24-Jun-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: what do you produce mainly adonis may help people to invite [24-Jun-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need something moved from ben to kat? [24-Jun-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to EW? [24-Jun-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skycrafter** joined.* [24-Jun-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NopeRope** left.* [24-Jun-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rawn** left.* [24-Jun-22 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: SmittyVentures is closing shipping for the next 6 days. I look forward to handling your shipping needs when I come back. 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Chose the fuel refiner's starting package, wondering if its too soon to join a corp. [26-Jun-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSpaceXplorer** left.* [26-Jun-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: one advice i got give was you dont need a corp to be good in the game as the gov neke has never been in a corp and he is doing great [26-Jun-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: on the other hand make sure the corp never holds you back and is still beneficial to you [26-Jun-22 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svyatislov** joined.* [26-Jun-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere8986c55ec** left.* [26-Jun-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dark_Soul** left.* [26-Jun-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4bd45e5d23** left.* [26-Jun-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quarasique** joined.* [26-Jun-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is there a guild of small fuel refiners here yet? There probably should be, there’s a few of you now [26-Jun-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: were are an illustrious bunch [26-Jun-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone looking for carbon pm me [26-Jun-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: what if we're looking for water [26-Jun-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: do we pm you as well @marine307 [26-Jun-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: na na im a carbon seller neke might be able to help [26-Jun-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chamuel** joined.* [26-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: water? [26-Jun-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _opens jacket to reveal sample tubes of clear water_ [26-Jun-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: straight from etherwind, no trace ammonia, 100% pure [26-Jun-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: COGC purchase contracts are up on the LM with the rating "E" for visibility. 189,000 CIS offered in total for the RAT, DW, PE, and MCG. [26-Jun-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've also added FOD and SUN orders [26-Jun-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: So... is there a famine going on or something? lol [26-Jun-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: more carbon on the LM [26-Jun-22 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks everyone, COGC is sorted! 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[27-Jun-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: hi @marine307. Is the flight to manifold boring you :-D? [27-Jun-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: meh my pilot put it on auto and havign 3 days leave [27-Jun-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: wouldnt mind a job like that to be honest lol [27-Jun-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yeah, reading a good book in outerspace, what do you want more out of life :-D. [27-Jun-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: exactly and getting paid to do it too [27-Jun-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: the joys of forgeting extra cost lol [27-Jun-22 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stek** left.* [27-Jun-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vitus**: Thanks for the advice @marine307, guess I'll continue chugging along with my little fuel refining operation and see what a trial license has to offer. :P [27-Jun-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: CAF and COF available, dm me to discuss [27-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amiX4** joined.* [27-Jun-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spyking62** left.* [27-Jun-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I need 4.8m3 moved from Ben to Kat in next 12h, ad is on LM. Anyone going this way with some free space? [27-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can take it [27-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: got a spare ship I need to relocate back [27-Jun-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: great [27-Jun-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [27-Jun-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goldstash** left.* [27-Jun-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NODDAR** joined.* [27-Jun-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korinel82** left.* [27-Jun-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sriwee** left.* [27-Jun-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thiranoyama** joined.* [27-Jun-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ex-Executioner** left.* [27-Jun-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Etc_ICE** left.* [28-Jun-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: good morning KAT [28-Jun-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything moved from ben to kat i have 495m3 and t left [28-Jun-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @marine307 already on the way? I have two things to get moved from BEN to KAT [28-Jun-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: no leaving in 5 hours [28-Jun-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: great [28-Jun-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: still have 375 space left for anyone else [28-Jun-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah I just posted one [28-Jun-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for 143t [28-Jun-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can you get it to Katoa in ~6h? [28-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Samoth** left.* [28-Jun-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xKilroyx**: Hello all. So for startup/company base other than resource buildings and habs. What would be most useful early on or in general? [28-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What start did you take and what buildings have you built so far? [28-Jun-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa is a bit of a funny planet, it so far has a manufacturing COGC (+25% to manufacturing) but it has only deposits for doing fuel refining (poorly) [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Other common starts include Carbon farming, for which there is a useful and active Guild centred here (KCC @karr1981) [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: btw, who decided its a manufacturing planet? [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: thats bullshit [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: it should be a fuel planet, clearly [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: People struggle with manufacturing start as it can be a bit complex [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not again @Rasd :P [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: haha :)\ [28-Jun-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: Yes again, me [28-Jun-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: with current fuel prices you dont need fuel planet bonus to get great profit to be honest [28-Jun-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Are junior refiners finding it easy enough to source H? [28-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: if they know about CB-282d planet and cheap H you can get there they shouldn't have any probolems [28-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah fair enough [28-Jun-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I was buying H there on LM without the problem before I set my own base [28-Jun-22 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So Fuel Refining and Carbon are viable early starts [28-Jun-22 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it's a healthy shipping centre, so you can make decent money shipping [28-Jun-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is like 0,01% chance for fuel production bonus happening on Katoa because I'm sure that 5 minutes after changing it all the big corps that do manufacturing here would kick Neke from his sit and reverse change back to manufacturing :D [28-Jun-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Haha, well the people vote on COGC, not the Governor [28-Jun-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But I do advocate strongly for manufacturing and multiple large corporations have setup high-end manufacturing with TEC/ENG here (incidentally, this is where the tax burden falls too) [28-Jun-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: stupid people! D: [28-Jun-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There are other Fuel Refining COGCs in the region too I believe [28-Jun-22 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: not gonna transport GAL lmao [28-Jun-22 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Besides which, if everyone here becomes a refiner I'd have to change myself and then I'd have no need of buying 200-220k CIS of SF per week :) [28-Jun-22 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but moving GAL in large quantities is a problem and last I checked it planet with fuek ref COGCs dind't had GAL [28-Jun-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and as I said before as long as SF price is around 10-11 in Ben we don't need fuel COGC [28-Jun-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd argue it's that high BECAUSE you don't [28-Jun-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes, It would drive the price down for sure [28-Jun-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC Manu is keeping consumables affordable on the CX. It completely withstood the massive player influx in a way that Fuel, Water, and even RAT did not [28-Jun-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or Fabs [28-Jun-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: lets be real, combusion engines are really bad for the space enviroment and the prices for SF should be much higher! [28-Jun-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah I just spent 600 SF to travel BEN > KAT to meet a production queue dead line >_< [28-Jun-22 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Obviously, we should vote pioneers:D [28-Jun-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToastInTheUniverse** left.* [28-Jun-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: amen lol [28-Jun-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If we vote pioneers I'll shift the tax burden back accordingly [28-Jun-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [28-Jun-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol [28-Jun-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in purchasing 240 MFK? [28-Jun-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, assorted LST on the LM @ 59.83/u [28-Jun-22 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything moved from ben to kat? [28-Jun-22 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah, looks like 240 MFK hahaha [28-Jun-22 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can u give me ~16mins ? [28-Jun-22 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***elena197519751** left.* [28-Jun-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: cool i have 375 space [28-Jun-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted :) [28-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: did it get accepted? [28-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: im comming from ben to kat not kat to ben [28-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh [28-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: got nothing then soz [28-Jun-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: no prob lol [28-Jun-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call for shipments from BEN to KAT [28-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay [28-Jun-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how much space u got [28-Jun-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 375 [28-Jun-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [28-Jun-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: off the ship goes [28-Jun-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Lol it only took me 24 days to realize there is a chat for my how town (planet) [28-Jun-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welcome to the chat and the rest of the planet you are not alone on this space rock lol [28-Jun-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: I figured [28-Jun-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Nice to have some neigbours [28-Jun-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and most of us dont bite :D [28-Jun-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: just watch neke he has that crazy look in his eyes [28-Jun-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: O beleef me he all ready gave me a sorta welcome [28-Jun-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: lol so what do you create? [28-Jun-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Fuel [28-Jun-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marxoo** deleted this message.* [28-Jun-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: lol [28-Jun-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: And i like the transport part of the game [28-Jun-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ah ok so fellow shipper [28-Jun-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: I just need to figure out how to get more ships [28-Jun-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Sofar i understand i can only make them myself, there doesn't seem to be a option to buy them [28-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: you need a boat load of mooney for them tho [28-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i mean to get the starter ship again so exactly the same as the starter ship will cost near a mil [28-Jun-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: And making myself also doesn't seem to work becausse a few items are simply not availible [28-Jun-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: So for now the plan is optimize my Fuel production keep Hauling and make some money on the run [28-Jun-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I haven't checked for a while, but there was a group listing all the parts on the ANT CX for a ship. But yes, a STL only bird is under 1 million and millions for a FTL bird [28-Jun-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea im doing that with my carbon now when i saw the price of the ships [28-Jun-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***masterwis** left.* [28-Jun-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rater193** left.* [28-Jun-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asuramaru** left.* [28-Jun-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***collinvc** left.* [28-Jun-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: WHAT ARE U BUILDING NEKE LOL [28-Jun-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyper4K** left.* [28-Jun-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What do you mean?? [28-Jun-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, 16 cheap MHL on the LM. [28-Jun-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: all that ISU [28-Jun-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Cheap MHL? Where? I need 2 more [28-Jun-22 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Suislide** joined.* [28-Jun-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***comicalfire** joined.* [28-Jun-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5c97a3abe5** left.* [28-Jun-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Beggs** joined.* [28-Jun-22 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slovo** left.* [28-Jun-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MilkmanX** left.* [28-Jun-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ErdzyTV** left.* [29-Jun-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It’s sold, I don’t sell odd quantities just in batches of 16. [29-Jun-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Speaking of odd quantities though, would anyone like FE hand delivered here on Katoa for 400/u? [29-Jun-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SN00B** left.* [29-Jun-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: How about I sell you some FE instead neke? I'll even make them extra rusty if you want to launch them at someone [29-Jun-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MysticFireFox1** left.* [29-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hahaha, I have perfectly shiny new FE arriving from my smelting planet [29-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and thought I'd offer it uo [29-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: before consuming it [29-Jun-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: seeing as its a bitch to transport and I'm bringing in 128 [29-Jun-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JochumMajorDwarf** joined.* [29-Jun-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need stuff taken to etherwind from KAT leaving in about 3 hours [29-Jun-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FYSA: I'll be putting at least 1,000, likely 1,500 or so OVE on the CX in 36-48 hours and dumping down to 50/u. Don't go paying >100/u if you can wait two days. [29-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: neke our shield in these trieing times [29-Jun-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: will you be putting REP too? I'd make my own but there's no INS on the market [29-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes, REP is on my list as well, but another few days [29-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It will also be listed at the lower end of the spectrum [29-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've left the existing stuff at >400 to stop a wholesale buy [29-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: before reserves arrive [29-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PWO.CI1 looks healthy enough that it doesnt need intervention [29-Jun-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: good to know, thanks [29-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And we can rely on @Pantalaimon keeping PWO well-listed [29-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COF.CI1 I can't really help with directly [29-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skyppie** left.* [29-Jun-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i can od some COF on lm at 550 if anyone needs, i have 200 [29-Jun-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need C have 48 to go RN [29-Jun-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST on LM UV-072c again. [29-Jun-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone need any BDE? 100 available [29-Jun-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: lol, and I hoped to sell my 7 BDE :) [29-Jun-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Maybe someone is in need of 107 [29-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, let me know if so, otherwise I'm hauling it back to antares [29-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh NICE [29-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Marxoo you joined Katoa? [29-Jun-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: HAHAHA [29-Jun-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: I joined Katoa? mmm yeah i have bean here for the last 25 days [29-Jun-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: It's kinda my home base [29-Jun-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Bud as you all ready know that [29-Jun-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah, I'm leaving you on block for the LM ads anyway. Not risking you getting anywhere near my shipping :) [29-Jun-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: I can see where you comming from and as the manager of you'r firm do what is best for it. [29-Jun-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: FWIW, @Marxoo did deliver MCG for me yesterday [29-Jun-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Yeah i know [29-Jun-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You told me you had no relation to MRXT / Marxo Trader [29-Jun-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But that was a lie. [29-Jun-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: @neke86 i think you had answer from the Dev maybe we should rest the case [29-Jun-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah, the Dev confirmed everything I thought. All that remains unknown is exactly how many contracts were lost in the process. At least one from my Guild-mate, another from a prominent Katoan, and Nirces said four such contracts. [29-Jun-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Then you or your other friend had the hide to complain to the devs about me "stalking" you. [29-Jun-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Again the dev only confirmed that there has been a misunderstanding [29-Jun-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay [29-Jun-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If there was an honest misunderstanding the time to explain that was before you spent quite some time telling me you had no relation to that account or any idea what I was talking about. [29-Jun-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :) [29-Jun-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: If you took the decencie to talk in private i could have explaint [29-Jun-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I did DM you first [29-Jun-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You said "Nope, just doing my thing." when I asked, then gave me some winding story about the names being a coincidence. [29-Jun-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: And i was told not to say anything during the investigation [29-Jun-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: I had all ready a Discord and DM from dev [29-Jun-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay [29-Jun-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well, welcome to Katoa. The Ammonia stinks, the Galerite is heavy, the Water is stubborn, and manufacturing is the COGC. [29-Jun-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: And i to be honnest like the game and i also made the promisse one month ago to test the game as how i played Eve, i'm more the happy to explain you what i tested and why i did so just not in public. [29-Jun-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: And thanks for the welcome [29-Jun-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm not interested [29-Jun-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: np [29-Jun-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Your testing cost around 300-500k in damages -at least- [29-Jun-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: That i highly doubt [29-Jun-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Bud if you say so i gonna beleef you [29-Jun-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: One of the contracts you defaulted on was a full boat load of CL [29-Jun-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: there were at least five other contracts on top of that [29-Jun-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrMambo**: yeah, that was mine, 156 CL lost [29-Jun-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrMambo**: youll also be remaining on my block list [29-Jun-22 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: What did I wake up to? [29-Jun-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: #BlockFest [29-Jun-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: What is off course you'r good right [29-Jun-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrMambo**: to clarify @Marxoo, CL at 1,500 per unit, lost me 234,000 CIS [29-Jun-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Sounds like you deserve it, but I'm an outsider who is biased to @neke for being a great govenor [29-Jun-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: @Joekingdom i see it a bid diffrent bud that should be my good right [29-Jun-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Long story short, this guy was multi-accounting, the account that got deleted had a lot of open shipping contracts. When initially approached, he lied about it and pretended he had no relationship to it. Then someone, either this guy or his friend @robbintje90 complained to the devs about me questioning them - so Molp contacted me and we had a chat. I didn't realise until the beginning of this conversation that the remaining account was on Katoa. [29-Jun-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Lol and not responding to if Neke is a good gov [29-Jun-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: i have no idea yet sofar he seems a good guy/girl [29-Jun-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anywho [29-Jun-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: well just to clearify @robbintje90 has nothing to do whit it and that i reported you to a dev was clearly becausse he didn't like you'r convos [29-Jun-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: People can make up their own mind [29-Jun-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Can't blame him he didn't do anything wrong [29-Jun-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm not blaming him for anything relating to the lost contracts [29-Jun-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Actually, if he didn't complain, molp wouldn't have contacted me to explain and confirm everything [29-Jun-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So works for me :) [29-Jun-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Yeah, thats somthing the Dev's should work on ;) [29-Jun-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So people like you can get away with bad behaviour? Sure, put in a complaint to them. [29-Jun-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: I mean no harm if you wanna solve stuff bud a story always has 2 sides which you do not like or whant to see [29-Jun-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You've had ample opportunity to tell your side, you're still insisting on taking it offline, evading explaining yourself [29-Jun-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Nope it's the only and normal way [29-Jun-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: If i IRL have problems whit someone it will most likely not help when i attack him in public [29-Jun-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You lied to me repeatedly in DMs, don't pretend like that wasn't where I started :) [29-Jun-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Yes i did and explaind you here in public why [29-Jun-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I don't want to say you're getting close to burnning bridges on katoa with this convo @Marxoo, but you may want to take a step back from chat for a bit [29-Jun-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: @karr1981 are you here? [29-Jun-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Alright, setting aside this discussion - people can judge for themselves. [29-Jun-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On to brighter topics [29-Jun-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Who wants some RAT. [29-Jun-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 800 here, I'll fill small orders (up to 100) at 50/u for any relatively small player who posts a buy on the LM. Mark it "A" rated so I can see them. [29-Jun-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Thanks @neke86 i can appriciat it you let everyone make up there mind [29-Jun-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarnum** left.* [29-Jun-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I'll place an order, @neke86 , thanks. [29-Jun-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure [29-Jun-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Katoa -> Umbra 350 free space, place your shipment ads ;) [29-Jun-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: departure in 2h [29-Jun-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: @neke86 I would love some RAT, I've been struggling to fill an order for the last 5 or so days on it. I'll put up an order [29-Jun-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: Actually wait, nvm... I forgot I ended up tying up my available funds in a shipment that I still have to wait another day on. Oops [29-Jun-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: Wait, buy orders on the LM can have delayed payment right? I've never actually used buy/sell orders, only shipping contracts so far. I imagine they work the same [29-Jun-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tloof** joined.* [29-Jun-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes they work the same, you can delay the payment [29-Jun-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have posted some cheap bfabs in the LM. [29-Jun-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I put some cheap full up as well. [29-Jun-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I need some credits to pay taxes. [29-Jun-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpectrumGhost** left.* [29-Jun-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***toor** joined.* [29-Jun-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Perspicacious_D** joined.* [29-Jun-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Perspicacious_D**: so after building a base what do i do next (im new) [29-Jun-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, setup production queue and wait... then sell your product [29-Jun-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you could look for shipment ads, but that requires pro account [29-Jun-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: what's your starting package? [29-Jun-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pakedskeezer** left.* [29-Jun-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbf5962dd34** left.* [29-Jun-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm missing 50 MCG, does anyone have some? ad posted [29-Jun-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: :) [29-Jun-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ty [29-Jun-22 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draco_The_Ceo** left.* [29-Jun-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***myrdurgamez** left.* [29-Jun-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: can I join a company under trial license? [29-Jun-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You are a Company - you mean a Corporation. I don't know if trial license will restrict you but you will have to find a Corp willing to take you on. [29-Jun-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: mb I meant Corporation [29-Jun-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: tbh wording is quite similar [29-Jun-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, a Corp is like a guild in this game. [29-Jun-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: so can you join 1 with trial?, I was messing around base planner excels and thats where I found out you get %10 efficiency bonus to your Corparation HQ as well as Company HQ [29-Jun-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't know. [29-Jun-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: since you are in kat a starting planet a corp cant build a hq here [30-Jun-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PLES86550** joined.* [30-Jun-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MonkeyNutHead3** joined.* [30-Jun-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MonkeyNutHead3**: this seems cool... [30-Jun-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marxoo**: Good morning [30-Jun-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***miffyisthebest** joined.* [30-Jun-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: hey all [30-Jun-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: hi marine [30-Jun-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how ye doing thoern? [30-Jun-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: good, thank you. Fuel price is still high :) [30-Jun-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: as the sky its just climbing honestly just went up 3cis the past 4 days [30-Jun-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its actually at a all time high for ben [30-Jun-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes, it's getting closer to price in all other CXs [30-Jun-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: 2-3 weeks ago price in antares and moria was around 14-15 while in ben it was still at 10 [30-Jun-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: now price difference between CXs is no longer so huge [30-Jun-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and how is your C trade looking? [30-Jun-22 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: not to bad lowest the carbon price has been in a month but still climbing from 90 days back and more then enough to keep growing [30-Jun-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Undo** joined.* [30-Jun-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: carbon for sale on the LM [30-Jun-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: LF corporation that resides in Katoa [30-Jun-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: what do you produce adonis? [30-Jun-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @adonis_nicholas as a side note since you asked this eairler since you are in kat a corp cant build a hq here [30-Jun-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: atm I'm only using Basic Manufacturing Plants [30-Jun-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nice [30-Jun-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: tbh I run the numbers but coudnt find any good T2-T3-T4 plants [30-Jun-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/corporations/ this would help you understand adonis {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/corporations/ 7. Corporations :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [30-Jun-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: thanks [30-Jun-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: does anyone use t3 t4 plants? [30-Jun-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i know there is one planet at the edge of the galaxy [30-Jun-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: because KAT is a starting planet [30-Jun-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: I didnt knew that, thanks [30-Jun-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ombre** joined.* [30-Jun-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I put some cheap FE on the LM. [30-Jun-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If anyone wants a smaller lot I will split it up. [30-Jun-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heronn** joined.* [30-Jun-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Heronn**: hey [30-Jun-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: hey there heronn [30-Jun-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Heronn**: new to the game, just joined [30-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Heronn**: woah i imagine the learning curve is pretty steep heh [30-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welcome to the game most of us dont bite but neke has sharp teeth [30-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea it is kinda steep but the comunity is always more then willing to answer any questions [30-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It moves slowly so there is lots of time to learn [30-Jun-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Look for the browser extension: PMMG Extended. You will find it very helpful. [30-Jun-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Heronn**: i'm playing on the steam version [30-Jun-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: or even join discord channels there is always someone to help out there [30-Jun-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea i found it on steam and move to browser very quick [30-Jun-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sharp please! [30-Jun-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: you know im joking neke ur like a giant teddy unless someone gets on ur bad side lol [30-Jun-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***robinb_** joined.* [30-Jun-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need carbon? [30-Jun-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FougerePilote** joined.* [30-Jun-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cute._.Femboy** left.* [30-Jun-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: SmittyVentures is back shipping. [30-Jun-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mop-92** left.* [30-Jun-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ja12craft** left.* [30-Jun-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: awww yesss [30-Jun-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: where da fleet at [30-Jun-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: is anyone making FLX nearby? I've tried Umbra discord channel, no answers so far [30-Jun-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @Glith I'm doing some FLX, but my main production ist CL and IND. Why? [30-Jun-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'd like to buy 100 FLX [30-Jun-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Neke, the other day someone was asking about 2 MHL. Do you remember who that was? Did you provide them? [30-Jun-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: the ad is on Umbra LM; let me know if the price is not good enough [30-Jun-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I was looking for 2 MHL a few days back. I solved my issue and no longer need them. [30-Jun-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Ok [30-Jun-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @Gilith I have 40 Flux I can sell if you really need it [30-Jun-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I already bought from Pantalaimon, but if you have them ready, I'll take those 40 too [30-Jun-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: price? [30-Jun-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 80/u? [30-Jun-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ad on the LM now [30-Jun-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ty Grandpa [30-Jun-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I usually make NS but when spare time I make Flux so time to time I have 50 or so if ya ever desperate k [30-Jun-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'll be on vacation next week so I needed to stockpile to keep my smelters running [30-Jun-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ya, being away for a few days creates issues lol. A few weeks back I was away 3 days and I had to plan a whole week ahead to not stop my production from shortages. [30-Jun-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: Anyone need anything else pulling from Benten to katoa? 446m3/413t left over [30-Jun-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No but wouldn't mind sending something KAT > BEN [30-Jun-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: preferably someone doing the run with delivery <9hrs [30-Jun-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have a small item for Stn to Katoa posting soon [30-Jun-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: onlt 3,7 tons [30-Jun-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 3.5 [30-Jun-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody available to take KAT > BEN? [30-Jun-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @BlueHeeler [30-Jun-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also posted a small BEN > KAT @Swizzles [30-Jun-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: Cheers, may as well make use of the ship while its there [30-Jun-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for sure [30-Jun-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PWO.CI1 is stinking cheap [30-Jun-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Given that COT hasn't really come down, and neither has PG [30-Jun-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AebyS** joined.* [30-Jun-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [30-Jun-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delenoru** joined.* [30-Jun-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shotgunbuddy** left.* [30-Jun-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Ugh why won't my lic switch over to pro? 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I have 138t that need moving there [01-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can do KAT>BEN>KAT [01-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Launched, 4h40m there [01-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Then I'll turn it around and come back [01-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thx neke [01-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have 48 space from ben to PROC leaving in 2hour 30mins [01-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: PROX by the way sorry [01-Jul-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: @marine307 have a ad for 41 [01-Jul-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: just left and aborted and its still going all the way to daikoku sorry i tried [01-Jul-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: ok, no problem ;) [01-Jul-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i thought if i cancel it on the take off phase i can just land again but no it wants to jump [01-Jul-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: process is process :D [01-Jul-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***b5g6m9** left.* [01-Jul-22 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: when you abort it will finish the current leg of the journey, so if you are jumping to a system it will finish that jump and then just orbit, [01-Jul-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: but what if you interrupt one of the jumps in longer route? orbit what? the star? random planet? [01-Jul-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: probably the closest planet in that particular system [01-Jul-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: closest to what? :) the star I assume? [01-Jul-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or maybe actually the farthest one from the star? [01-Jul-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: also, what happens if you interrupt the CHRG step? will still jump? or stay in the current system? [01-Jul-22 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: When I did abort in the middle of jumps I ended in location described but only system name without planet designation, like CB-282. I didn'e check it on system map but I quess that my ship ended in outer space on sun orbit. [01-Jul-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I was able to jump again from there without need of any SF use [01-Jul-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: sometimes I would like to change the destination to e.g BEN instead of Katoa, or increase the burn mid-flight to reach the destination faster, but not sure how much additional fuel would be lost [01-Jul-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: and I don't want to risk getting stuck somewhere without enough FF to reach the destination [01-Jul-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: well i messed up today and a flight that normally cost me 40 ff and 120 sf and 7 hours cost me 400sf and 40 ff and 11 hours [01-Jul-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: as i aborted mid flight [01-Jul-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: so no FF lost, but an additional SF burn? [01-Jul-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea it jumped me to the star but lots of extra sf burn [01-Jul-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: and time [01-Jul-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoshiU** left.* [01-Jul-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xrgqlo** left.* [01-Jul-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cekir** left.* [01-Jul-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FedeInBlanco** joined.* [01-Jul-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sildarya** joined.* [01-Jul-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***COLAB** joined.* [01-Jul-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BaronIsh** left.* [01-Jul-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Casdeya** left.* [02-Jul-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scott_E.** joined.* [02-Jul-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve loaded a bit of DW on to the CX. Can’t do it much cheaper without handing it directly to the guy buying and reselling. Check out DW.CI1 [02-Jul-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also full boatloads of LST and CLI on LM UV-072c [02-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***P_K_Blinder** left.* [02-Jul-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Helotrix** left.* [02-Jul-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Anybody here making DDT? 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[03-Jul-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Swizzles**: Running low on DW/RAT with the flights being stuck lol [03-Jul-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Swizzles, how much DW/RAT do you need to get by today? [03-Jul-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I just put some spare input materials (C,PE,HE3,LST) on the LM at station ask prices in bite-sized chunks to help people keep their lines running. [03-Jul-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I also put a buy order for 10 THF at station ask price since I'll have a line down in 11 hr. If you have it to spare it would be appreciated. [03-Jul-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Added selling OVE and INS to the LM. [03-Jul-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thanks for the ove zen life saver [03-Jul-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: np, just doing what I can. [03-Jul-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tyrannosaurus_Flex** joined.* [03-Jul-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Someone just took all five of my 10 OVE ads, so if people need some OVE put in a Buy order because I have some left but don't want it all to be snapped up by one person. [03-Jul-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i took one hehe [03-Jul-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: FLY FREE ALL THE SHIPS ARE WORKING [03-Jul-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeremoph** joined.* [03-Jul-22 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Ships are working! [03-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Took down my INS from LM since it's a niche market. Will leave the friendly LM prices up until they expire tomorrow since some people may still be far from base. Will switch back to my normal markups tomorrow. :) [03-Jul-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ammekof_SEC** joined.* [03-Jul-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexJB22** left.* [03-Jul-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***7704** left.* [03-Jul-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped from Ben? [03-Jul-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SainTech** left.* [03-Jul-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Primefunction** left.* [03-Jul-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: What happened to the PE market @ Benten Station. No supply. Wow. [03-Jul-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You need some at Katoa? How many and what will ya pay? [03-Jul-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: I don't need any now fortunately.. but I will need some in about a week. [03-Jul-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am sure the shortage is because of the ships not working. I bet it return to normal soon [03-Jul-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Yeah true. [03-Jul-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eador** joined.* [03-Jul-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rusha** left.* [03-Jul-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: If anyone actually needs PE today, I still have five 200 unit ads in the LM which have turned into bargains considering what has happened at the station. [03-Jul-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I went for a walk so I got all the PE I need. LOL [03-Jul-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Anyone can sell me my 10 THF buy order in KAT LM? [03-Jul-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Thanks Zen.. I'll keep the PE for a rainy day. [03-Jul-22 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: My PE ads have just been taken. [03-Jul-22 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: np PaidLeber. Hopefully we won't have another ship outage anytime soon. [03-Jul-22 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: anyone have any H they can spare? [04-Jul-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything from BEN to KAT \ [04-Jul-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: leaving in a hour [04-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call for BEN to KAT [04-Jul-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: thers an ad on ben lm [04-Jul-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: ty [04-Jul-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: no prob thanks ship has left [04-Jul-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 8 hours to land [04-Jul-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Looking for PWO, ads at LM [04-Jul-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: shiip leaving from KAT to uv-072c in 30 mins if anyone needs anything taken there [04-Jul-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BirtyDugger** left.* [04-Jul-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ladulala** joined.* [04-Jul-22 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae8fbfd45d** left.* [04-Jul-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbec24f1414** left.* [04-Jul-22 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hey Katoans! If you are enjoying Prun and are quite active, don't forget to join up to the Discord (both Prun and Unified Faction Operations) and join Katoa channels [04-Jul-22 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or find me on Discord at "neke86#0082" [04-Jul-22 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: https://discord.gg/yEsubrcS << Discord link to Prosperous Universe [04-Jul-22 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: https://discord.gg/CVZAwpnk << Unified Faction Operations [04-Jul-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Upcoming COGC purchases are now on the LM with rating "E". 900 RAT @ 75/u and 1,750 MCG @ 20/u [04-Jul-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got DW and PE already covered [04-Jul-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ============ [04-Jul-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 48 BHP.CI1 available on the LM in various payment options [04-Jul-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: what is the right % to repair ships? [04-Jul-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well performance drops off rapidly from 80% [04-Jul-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But each hull plate repairs a little over 2% so it doesn't matter when you repair it per se [04-Jul-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Generally, around 85% needs 7-8 BHP and that's a safe zone [04-Jul-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's why I list them in arrangements of 4/16 :) [04-Jul-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vreemdevince** left.* [04-Jul-22 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thanks for the info. I am at 86% guess time to repair. [04-Jul-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 6 or 7 plates? [04-Jul-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Then you qualify for the 16 plate package at 1750/u :D [04-Jul-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or 3*4 [04-Jul-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: you have them? [04-Jul-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They're on the LM ready to go [04-Jul-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: THank you [04-Jul-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: don'tyall monitor the LM all day every day? [04-Jul-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Not when I am running shipping contracts. [04-Jul-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: too tempting to pick up shipments I can't run [04-Jul-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahahaha [04-Jul-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What about buy/sell arbitrage? [04-Jul-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I guess people don't really dump cheaply on the LM like used to happen more frequently [04-Jul-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks for the patronage [04-Jul-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I usually do but that money was set aside to build a second refinary. But repairing my ship was more important. Especially for a person who's job is shipping. [04-Jul-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah, can let it get right to 80% but doesnt change how many plates you need [04-Jul-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Next time can reach out with a buy ad and let me know exactly what you need [04-Jul-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will do a better price next time for my regular shippers too [04-Jul-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: yeah I am at 86 and 87% [04-Jul-22 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: 16 BHP would be 160t/160m3 right? [04-Jul-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah [04-Jul-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Right now I am running shipments from cb-282 d for firefreak. He is keeping me real busy. [04-Jul-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And CB-282d will cause some damage I believe [04-Jul-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 0.4% each leg? [04-Jul-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: That is good to know. [04-Jul-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 0.32% [04-Jul-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: He pays about 7,000 a shipment. [04-Jul-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So each trip there is ~0.64% [04-Jul-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or about 28% of one BHP = approx 500 CIS [04-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: one trip is 500 cis just for BHP? WOW [04-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well [04-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think so? [04-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I was going to start figuring out that stuff this week. [04-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1 BHP = 100/43 = 2.33% [04-Jul-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: A landing is 0.322% damage, same for take-off, so call it 0.64% [04-Jul-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 0.64 / 2.33 = 0.275 * 1800 = 494 CIS [04-Jul-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Double check the landing and takeoff damages though [04-Jul-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I might be wrong, I just used BLU to test [04-Jul-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am about to setup my raspberry pi to run this game on it and nothing else. [04-Jul-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Then I can have all the spreadsheets open for this stuff. [04-Jul-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svyatislov** left.* [04-Jul-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Oxygen cheap for sale [04-Jul-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ammonia too [04-Jul-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Galerite also [04-Jul-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thanks Smitty [04-Jul-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thanks Neke for the BHP [04-Jul-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: No problem I needed to free space in my inventory. [04-Jul-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Build a STO, why not. [04-Jul-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will next. My ships are out hauling. [04-Jul-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Let me know when and I will sell you cheap BBH, BSE and BDE. [04-Jul-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Awesome thank you [04-Jul-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: do you need anymore gal? I can sell more [04-Jul-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No, I took it because is was so cheap, but I have tons and I thought you might need the CIS. Thanks. [04-Jul-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I can always use the CIS, but really just needed room for my GAL to leave the extractor [04-Jul-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I could use some cheap GAL [04-Jul-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: neke tell us what you have done XD [04-Jul-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Due to healthy revenue collections the past fortnight I have trimmed the taxation on all industries for PIO and SET to the minimum (10/day). The tax base is now entirely funded by Manufacturing and TEC or above. [04-Jul-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @SmittyVentures Thats why Stonemere Inc pays you 12k ;)! [04-Jul-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: For your cb-282d shipments that is [04-Jul-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Those new warehouse fees are going to put me out of business \o/ [04-Jul-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The warehouse fees didn’t change (you were already going out of business ;) [04-Jul-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: oof [04-Jul-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have a empty ship heading to etherwind in 30 mins anyone need anything taken there [04-Jul-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: @[GOV] neke86 you're right lol [04-Jul-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: I could have sworn they were 100.. guess that's @ the station. [04-Jul-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yea the station is 100 :) [04-Jul-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fdas** joined.* [04-Jul-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 my extractor makes 180 units ever 12 days. [04-Jul-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @nicster that is why I snatch your jobs asap [04-Jul-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StTechMachine** joined.* [04-Jul-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [04-Jul-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [04-Jul-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: After 20-30 units [04-Jul-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah i got a few minutes [04-Jul-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how much per unit for 30 and is 5 days okay? [04-Jul-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How often do you need GAL? [04-Jul-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not very [04-Jul-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: need it for electronicsrarely [04-Jul-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I have 32 right now. You can have it. [04-Jul-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [04-Jul-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [04-Jul-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: price? [04-Jul-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: what you think is fair. [04-Jul-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I need the storage anyway [04-Jul-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posting [04-Jul-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thank you. [04-Jul-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: much obliged [04-Jul-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: so civl [04-Jul-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 you on right now. [04-Jul-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: message him on discord maybe? [04-Jul-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I will be on all day. About to play this while I play some fallout 4 [04-Jul-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user53f0c96fc1** left.* [04-Jul-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draxzter** joined.* [04-Jul-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Virap** left.* [04-Jul-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crashofgame** left.* [04-Jul-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bradleo** left.* [04-Jul-22 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tag44** left.* [05-Jul-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sqooq** left.* [05-Jul-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ship ben to KAT have 397 space left leaving in a hour [05-Jul-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***orzergrau** joined.* [05-Jul-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***orzergrau** left.* [05-Jul-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueOri** left.* [05-Jul-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heezerius** joined.* [05-Jul-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rockphyton** joined.* [05-Jul-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welcome all [05-Jul-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rockphyton** left.* [05-Jul-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC is open and sorted [05-Jul-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rid** left.* [05-Jul-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: have 98 space to go to ben if anyone needs [05-Jul-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: ad up if you havent left yet [05-Jul-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: last call about to leave [05-Jul-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thiranoyama** left.* [06-Jul-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ume** left.* [06-Jul-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RissaSpibeis** left.* [06-Jul-22 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: leaving ben to KAT in 1 hour have 158t/304m3 cargo space left [06-Jul-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: marine, I posted 3 small shipping ads on LM [06-Jul-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: have 150t/297m3 left [06-Jul-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KUROTECH** joined.* [06-Jul-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone selling FF? [06-Jul-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Hooli sells FF on Katoa. [06-Jul-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Company code HL [06-Jul-22 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thought u were away nic:P [06-Jul-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ff buy contracts up need it asap [06-Jul-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dokutaah** joined.* [06-Jul-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Checking in from time to time on my mobile phone. Just shipping logistics is a bit hard on the phone [06-Jul-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: fair enough i try dodge it too [06-Jul-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3a12f0c6d3** left.* [06-Jul-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VScorpion** joined.* [06-Jul-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercd23e14344** left.* [06-Jul-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yayimspecial14** joined.* [06-Jul-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bun1227** joined.* [06-Jul-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: looking for 1 BTA, ad at LM. [06-Jul-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: mat ns [06-Jul-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: have u always been on KAT seapear? [06-Jul-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: ha... didn't realize I popped that command into chat lol [06-Jul-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: and yus! [06-Jul-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: never knew all those famous vids were filmed right here on my home planet [06-Jul-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ah C r a p---Just realized I left Benten Stn for Katao and didn't load the cargo onto my ship. GRRRR! [06-Jul-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Ouchh.. [06-Jul-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Anyone here knows Tony Stark? [06-Jul-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Not personally, but we float around the same social circles [06-Jul-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Oh good.. then let him know I'm looking to buy some FE :p [06-Jul-22 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fry2000**: in dire need of 2 EXO and 2 PT on LM cause my guys are whining [06-Jul-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [06-Jul-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fry2000**: ty! [06-Jul-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crispy_bacon609** left.* [07-Jul-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone know the player "Rasd"? Started 334 days ago. He took a contract a few days back and it is up for expire a second time now. [07-Jul-22 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: contract for fuel i assume? [07-Jul-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: any H producers please contact me when you can [07-Jul-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Beggs** left.* [07-Jul-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: You should just check CB-282d, it's the biggest planet for H in the area. Basically everyone with a base there will have a lot of H and many players will sell you H directly from there at a very cheap price if you go pick it up [07-Jul-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AtlaS-** left.* [07-Jul-22 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @rasd is good for it. If he breaches it's most probably something to do with real life. [07-Jul-22 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @marine307 I am a big H supplier :) [07-Jul-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: yea @rasd is really well known and not flaky at all [07-Jul-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: nic ill speak to ye on discird [07-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: huh [07-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: oh [07-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: uhm [07-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: riiiight, no that was a misclick :x I thought you wanted t buy H [07-Jul-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: but I can bring some H2O to Katoa and fill it [07-Jul-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: how much h20 was it? [07-Jul-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: at what price ill place some so u can fill it now [07-Jul-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dokutaah** left.* [07-Jul-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordanoii_tkto** joined.* [07-Jul-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: 50 xD [07-Jul-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: for 1k [07-Jul-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: but my ship mis en route [07-Jul-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DOPE** left.* [07-Jul-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wolfinrulez** left.* [07-Jul-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to EW? [07-Jul-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes actually [07-Jul-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how much space you got? [07-Jul-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: 470 [07-Jul-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one moment [07-Jul-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [07-Jul-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got it! [07-Jul-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PeaChuckles** left.* [07-Jul-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRaven** left.* [07-Jul-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Anyone here I can buy FE directly from in the future? I'll pick it up. [07-Jul-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone comming froom prox to KAT? [07-Jul-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Anyone got Hydrogent? I could use 30-40 units [07-Jul-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: HCP? [07-Jul-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: lol I see now it was just a 't' added to hydrogen >< [07-Jul-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qasz** left.* [07-Jul-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ethe** joined.* [07-Jul-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilikered** left.* [07-Jul-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Perspicacious_D** left.* [07-Jul-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mortality** joined.* [07-Jul-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsMulters** joined.* [07-Jul-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I will be at Prox in under 2 hrs and expect to leave for Kat in a few hours or so after that [07-Jul-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Furykhai** joined.* [07-Jul-22 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: got a shipper already thanks grandpa [07-Jul-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how much iron @PaidLeber ? 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[08-Jul-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh and most importantly, big fresh water dump H2O.CI1 [08-Jul-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10,500 units at 18/u [08-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Linkyle** joined.* [08-Jul-22 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_coindexter_** joined.* [08-Jul-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I'm in route with another 1.8k that I will throw up at the same price [08-Jul-22 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: H20 that is [08-Jul-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MilleniuM_SSA** joined.* [08-Jul-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Is a low H2O price desirable? [08-Jul-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Finally back after some jobs. [08-Jul-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: For new players, yes [08-Jul-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VRBSN** left.* [08-Jul-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome [08-Jul-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: back [08-Jul-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bolton** left.* [08-Jul-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: So neke, any campaign promises you want to make? [08-Jul-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same as always [08-Jul-22 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Manufacturing and high tier workers foot the COGC and POPI bill. POPI relatively stable, no significant upgrades planned until we see a change in demand. Manufacturing is the preferred industry but with buying support and low tax for Carbon Farming, Fuel, and Victuallers. And so long as those conditions are stable I’ll keep doing what I’m doing to ensure availability of cheap H2O, LST, CLI, discounted hull plates for local shipping and stepping in when things like DW get too high on the CX. [08-Jul-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve also setup an electronics (CLR) and metallurgy pipeline (multiple FS) to support SCA/MCA/ELP owners here on Katoa but that’s mid-tier stuff really [08-Jul-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh and corruption, as much as I can get ;) [09-Jul-22 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maffrejal** joined.* [09-Jul-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Yes [09-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Free Taco Thursdays needs to be instituted planet-wide, and a secret police force to crack down on people selling tacos on that sacred day. [09-Jul-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: You want to move Taco Tuesday to Taco Thursday?? Controversy strikes Katoa! [09-Jul-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will treat with the winners of the Nascent Civil Taco War [09-Jul-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Tuesday? Thursday? You all are forgeting about Weedy Wednesday, the day we all should get free herbs....home grown of course. Katao grows some of the best! [09-Jul-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I grow mine mixed with maize and veg so people can't find them. [09-Jul-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toki-3** joined.* [09-Jul-22 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user064003cd7c** left.* [09-Jul-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd37c1336a9** left.* [09-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: what about smog sundays where plants burn faster in burners 😜 [09-Jul-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peso205** joined.* [09-Jul-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped from Ben? Got 450 free [09-Jul-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thomas1112097** joined.* [09-Jul-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Last call, departing benten in about a half hour [09-Jul-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eruannon** joined.* [09-Jul-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MachMen** left.* [09-Jul-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ramarl.me** joined.* [09-Jul-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlfonsX31** joined.* [09-Jul-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: emergency above market DW posted much thanks [09-Jul-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: "emergency" is overstating it :P I am mildly inconvenienced :) [09-Jul-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: thank you [09-Jul-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I have 50 more if you need it [09-Jul-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: sure posted...let my people eat ALL weekend i gues [09-Jul-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: tthanks [09-Jul-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Anyone selling FF on Katoa? I need to give you some of my money. [09-Jul-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: You know where to reach me.. I'm the guy playing the flute next to Jabba the Hutt. [09-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: BUYING 200 FF @ 13 on the LM [09-Jul-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jeannlukk** joined.* [09-Jul-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***comicalfire** left.* [09-Jul-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ankou29000** joined.* [09-Jul-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FedeInBlanco** left.* [09-Jul-22 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CleansandBurn** joined.* [09-Jul-22 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: \o/ [09-Jul-22 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsIdeal** left.* [09-Jul-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone online right now with a ship to arrange some lucrative short distance shipping? [09-Jul-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sorted [09-Jul-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Can anyone fill my buy of 2 LBH for 4000? If price not acceptable message me [09-Jul-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sell out of my stockpile but the average unit cost of that is 2650 o_O [09-Jul-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I tihnk i cna in 12 hours if nonone has by then [09-Jul-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone want to buy 100 CAF? [09-Jul-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or 100 COF [09-Jul-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or both hehe [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 2650 for LBH is higher than all markets. Why your costs so high on them? [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: because thats what it was when I bought them [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you can check [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: in your inventory, look where it says ABC CAT AMT TCK etc [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: on the left of that is a little icon with three dots and three lines [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: click that [09-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and it tells you total CIS spent on each pile [09-Jul-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ooh i didnt know that lol, is that te total for the quantity in the pile [09-Jul-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and how cna some be minus? [09-Jul-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: The ones I have cost me less than 2100 each from that chart [09-Jul-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not sure about minus, but it doesnt work for anything you make yourself [09-Jul-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that shows as zero [09-Jul-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Guess I bought them at a better price that you found [09-Jul-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah I bought hundreds of fabs a while ago [09-Jul-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put up a govt contract for 400 SUN @ 200/u on the Katoa LM. Due in 7 days. [09-Jul-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @pantalaimon perhaps? [09-Jul-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FM-00z** joined.* [09-Jul-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***agamemomnom** left.* [09-Jul-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera808372ccd** left.* [09-Jul-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10k CIS MOR>BEN shipping ad placed on LM BEN [09-Jul-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Bringing RAT to this exchange [09-Jul-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: Rats infest orbital station, news at 11 [09-Jul-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am having a Star trek tribble flash back [09-Jul-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: haha [10-Jul-22 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmallKittyPaws** joined.* [10-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's a bit of cheap TRU.CI1 on the market. I can't list much lower without scalpers taking it. If you wish to place orders for >100 TRU reach out to me directly [10-Jul-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in turning some of my PE into BDE for me? [10-Jul-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scott_E.** left.* [10-Jul-22 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @neke86 how many BDEs? [10-Jul-22 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 100 [10-Jul-22 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have 9 pp1 free currently [10-Jul-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not all at once obviously [10-Jul-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I only have one PP1, that would take too long; let @karr1981 handle it [10-Jul-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: shall we say start with 45 then? that’s probably a full days production right? [10-Jul-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I do have 15 BDEs for sale though [10-Jul-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: put up a 1 cis as for 29,250 PE :) [10-Jul-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and let me know a price for the BDE labour etc [10-Jul-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i udnno, whats fair [10-Jul-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 1 mill per BDE :-) [10-Jul-22 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ad up :-) [10-Jul-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gancho** joined.* [10-Jul-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svekolochka** left.* [10-Jul-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ankou29000** left.* [10-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bluelikesfood** left.* [10-Jul-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jeannlukk** left.* [10-Jul-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Hmm.. I have a fair amount of RAT on Kat. If I put it up on BEN it will probably just get scalped. If anyone wants some just put up an order on the LM. 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CLF, Manufacturing, requires complex inputs but we have a few people here who can make them. Don’t build this without securing your inputs though. [10-Jul-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2. WPL, Manufacturing, a timeless classic consuming RCO and PG for the infamous COT/NL markets. [10-Jul-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3. GF, Metallurgy. This one I’ll support myself - if you setup a GF here I’ll bring you the all the SIO you’ll ever need. I’ll also contract for TUB and occasionally for Glass and Glass-derivative products. If a few of you do this we can even collectively start turning out Glass STL engines in bulk as it only requires 4-6 to do this quickly and efficiently. [10-Jul-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And we can obtain the TI/THF, the rest comes entirely from within the GF. [10-Jul-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Are you confident there are good profit margins in them? [10-Jul-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In which? [10-Jul-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I list 3-4 things [10-Jul-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1. CLF. Margin might be difficult, this would be for larger, or established players, or those with resources and connections for the inputs. [10-Jul-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2. WPL. If you can make PG, then NL is a definite winner. There is almost no supply, and regular ongoing demand that is only going to increase (as it is required for LDE, HSS/HMS). Then there's KV, which is crucial to mid and later stage development. [10-Jul-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3. GF. Margins less attractive here on GL+ and TUB, however, it would be offset by SIO supply and relatively low effort maintenance. Margins on the STL engines can be good, yes. [10-Jul-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vonze** joined.* [11-Jul-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TiredCanadianBeaver** joined.* [11-Jul-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrmc_dee** joined.* [11-Jul-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need anything moved from prox to KAT [11-Jul-22 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: filled [11-Jul-22 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thoern** deleted this message.* [11-Jul-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone going from Ben to Kat? I have ad for 30t shipping on LM [11-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mason4TheWin** joined.* [11-Jul-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [11-Jul-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [11-Jul-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: what are the differences between STL engine types? glass engine is the cheapest, but what are the drawbacks? [11-Jul-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: It is very slow, and burns more fuel. Though the slowness is not as noticeable with smaller ships. [11-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It’s not meaningful on a 500/500 STL only freighter [11-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not a meaningful draw back [11-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: compared to price [11-Jul-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: It is rather noticeable on a 2000/2000 FTL freighter though. [11-Jul-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: But yeah smaller ships it is worth it. [11-Jul-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah but you wouldn’t save cash on a $3m build and that’s not what i was proposing [11-Jul-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a lot of the corps have stopped building STL to just do FTL, there’s a gap [11-Jul-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Undo** left.* [11-Jul-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: I wonder what the impact the announced ship upgrades will have on the STL market? [11-Jul-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: parts are going to sky rocket i think honestly [11-Jul-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LastShadow22** left.* [11-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alterlego** joined.* [11-Jul-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ammekof_SEC** left.* [11-Jul-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***minmpaf** joined.* [11-Jul-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ship upgrades? [11-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AttilaTheHun** deleted this message.* [11-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Ship upgrades were mentioned in Global Chat for the next release. 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Will leave when it’s full and burn quickly. Post β€œF” rated transport ads and I’ll collect the first 250tm3. [12-Jul-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to EW or Umbra. Making a stop to both and have 400 m/t free [12-Jul-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nogr03** joined.* [12-Jul-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone need shipments Benton Stn to Katoa? Will be under 1 day trip. Lots of space still. Leaving within the hour. [12-Jul-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: want me to just bring it back on one of my ships? [12-Jul-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhantomDD** joined.* [12-Jul-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrausAlbar** joined.* [12-Jul-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warrior19** joined.* [12-Jul-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Anyone looking to make some money shipping? [12-Jul-22 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Benten Station has 10,000 full loads from CH-115 b to Benten Station. Good money maker. [12-Jul-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phoneurion** left.* [12-Jul-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put cheap FE for sale on LM KW358b. Compare FE.NC1 and FE.CI1 to 19.000 for 64 only a short jump away. [12-Jul-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for 63* [12-Jul-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you purchase the FE off me, I can arrange LST to be here on Katoa for 55/u to accommodate PP1 recipes in the ratio you need. [12-Jul-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: make it 50/u [12-Jul-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FloridamanCoke** joined.* [13-Jul-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi there. I am new and still try to get along. I see some people offer shippings. How does this work? [13-Jul-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If you view the Local Market under the SHIPPING tab you will see any currently offers listed. Open a buffer and use the command LM UV-351a [13-Jul-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hm... it say my company rating in insufficient [13-Jul-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: the B one yes.... [13-Jul-22 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Being new trust in you has not developed and some players choose to ship with only known provewn shippers. Look for one with a P rating [13-Jul-22 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: the P one too [13-Jul-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Do you have trial licence? [13-Jul-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yes [13-Jul-22 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: you need better licence [13-Jul-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see. First I want to learn to know the game before I buy something. I guess the only alternative to sell something is to wait some weeks, until I have produced enough stuff for an own shippment? [13-Jul-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What package did you start with and what buildings have you constructed? [13-Jul-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: yes, the start is slow [13-Jul-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I started as manufacturer. I did build an extractor and a rig. at the moment I produce Oxygen, Ammoniak and water [13-Jul-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay [13-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: As a manufacturer on Katoa you have a few challenges. Firstly, the starting guide is completely wrong. [13-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Secondly, we have no native resources for you to exploit. [13-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thirdly. You've come to the right place :) [13-Jul-22 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I already realised, that I need different materials. I thought according to the intro that I need to harvest gases and produce something from it. But seems like I need different materials [13-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How much fuel you got? [13-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Two ships with full tanks? [13-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yes [13-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okayt [13-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: here's my advice [13-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But I don't want to wast fual byd them half empty. that's why I was asking about shipping [13-Jul-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Demolish those buildings right now, take all the things you extracted, along with the fuel from one ship (both the SF, and FF) and fly up to the CX. When you fly to the CX, you only need to move the fuel slider a few notches and spend about 150-200 SF (of your tank of 1500). When you get to the CX, sell the spare fuel, sell your FF, sell the extracted materials. You'll have some pile of cash now, and hopefully no buildings and one ship with a mostly full SF tank. [13-Jul-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Check out the recipes in the BMP, and the basic manufacturing plant [13-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd consider.. MCG for isntance buy some SIO and LST, take it home, THEN build the BMP [13-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and get it started :) [13-Jul-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Ok. Thanks for the advice. I will try to figure it out. [13-Jul-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can also buy some STL (Steel) to make power tools. It's usually trading around 800/u [13-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or you can bring home Carbon and Hydrogen, to make PE [13-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: The advice is good. neke is the Governor of Katoa and an experienced & helpful player. [13-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You've picked a difficult start but it's rewarding and not impossible, and the complexity is fun [13-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The important thing is not to burn half a tank of fuel getting to the CX [13-Jul-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, not sure what consumable supplies you have for your workforce, but I'd probably run with just RAT, DW, and OVE for now [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yes I started with these, but I guess I need more. [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not for now, they're too expensive [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I mean, they're worth it, but not relative to the precarious start position [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I never moved a ship till now. I need to figure out how it works [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and what you need to spend funds on [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Remember to load the ship with your cargo before moving it. [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Go to the FLT buffer [13-Jul-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and remember to check [13-Jul-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes hahahahaha [13-Jul-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: remember to check the inventory OF THE SHIP [13-Jul-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: before flight [13-Jul-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the second you hit fly, the ship is gone [13-Jul-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: btw by accident I removed on my base screen the tap with the buttons HQ, Buildings, Construct, ... and so on. I found out how to open it temporary as buffer. But how can I reintegrate it in my base screen? [13-Jul-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I dont fully understand the question but there are tutorials on how to use buffers and setup screens and windows [13-Jul-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: best invest some minutes in those [13-Jul-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: because it'll make gameplay a lot easier and enjoyable [13-Jul-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: In the upper right of each buffer you will see a cog. Move the curser over it and select the line either across or down. this will divide the area in 2 [13-Jul-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Now resize as you want. Then drag the window you opened to see the Base into this new empty box [13-Jul-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You can add more screens and make th3 data displays as you want by repeating this, just when you copy a screen rename it before altering it [13-Jul-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If I did not explain well watch the tutorial. [13-Jul-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ie: the Transmissions [13-Jul-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah I see. Thanks. :-) [13-Jul-22 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: There are many here who will assit you to understand things, if they are around...Just ask\ [13-Jul-22 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhantomDD** left.* [13-Jul-22 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alterlego**: With the current price of hydrogen and he3 and of ff I lose a lot of money making fuel [13-Jul-22 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alterlego**: Why is that [13-Jul-22 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alterlego**: at least gal is free to make [13-Jul-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's not free, you pay upkeep to the PIOs to extract it :) [13-Jul-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @alterlego look at this fuel guide made by some one its pretty good https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JJe2kjcXU7Y_CJrHS5lgFdB9R_DtkXkqAncgOSNW3c/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JJe2kjcXU7Y_CJrHS5lgFdB9R_DtkXkqAncgOSNW3c/edit Fuel Refiner tutorial Starting as a fuel refiner in Prosperous Universe. Basics 1 Choosing a starting region 2 Hortus 2 Moria 2 Benten 3 Antares 3 What to do after you start 3 GAL planet (Boucher, Katoa) 3 BOR planet (XG-430c, Electronica) 4 Close to CX planet 6 Frontier start 7 Basics Primary export: STL Fuel (... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6EqJawHY3iVBSkLuksc7S7mqx6wS7zPgXps3xOgkdIY/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/kSDpubiOY3tDob9DDr9-4aIiXY-zRUYcRJN9uR5_gOV2DOYfIBRdt_IuoY40mk5hhJ9to0W74iZV0g%3Dw1200-h630-p [13-Jul-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alterlego**: ohyeah mb i can actually turn profit [13-Jul-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alterlego**: thanks for the link [13-Jul-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SonOfJef** joined.* [13-Jul-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tark** joined.* [13-Jul-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SonOfJef**: Looking for a corp I can join for free. Please invite me. Thank you. [13-Jul-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: for a chance of someone inviting you it would be best to state what you produce [13-Jul-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SonOfJef**: I'm collecting Ammonia and refining STL Fuel. [13-Jul-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SonOfJef**: Flying to Benten Station from Katoa planet would take 1d 3hrs. Is this a bug? [13-Jul-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tark**: use more fuel [13-Jul-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SonOfJef**: Oh gosh. Fuel costs 11+ CIS. I'll go bankrupt. [13-Jul-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: The planets (and stations) are constantly orbiting the star of the system so sometimes the trip is closer, sometimes it's further. Right now the distance between Katoa and Benten Station is about as far as it ever gets [13-Jul-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you can still make it below 12h with about 250SF [13-Jul-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Yeah, Benten Station isn't very far even at its furthest. Try flying to Benten D :( [13-Jul-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: you need to find a balance of fuel used and time taken [13-Jul-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone need anything moved from benten to katoa? moving at 1pm eastern, have 450 V/W [13-Jul-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Agent53** left.* [13-Jul-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alterlego** left.* [13-Jul-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loco.** joined.* [13-Jul-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thefallen.tj** joined.* [13-Jul-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: 3 BHP for sale. Good price! [13-Jul-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jvandillen** joined.* [13-Jul-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eilyn** joined.* [13-Jul-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eilyn** left.* [13-Jul-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirHardbass** joined.* [13-Jul-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Equinox6464** joined.* [13-Jul-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNMENT UPKEEP: [13-Jul-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm posting a FOD contract for 600 units, due in 20 days. [13-Jul-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd prefer that delivered in 14-20 days, it'll be for the following month of supply. [13-Jul-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same story for PFE [13-Jul-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, quite a premium on 18 UTS (3,000ea) also on 20 days. [13-Jul-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Payment for these Govt contracts is up front [13-Jul-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay, that's all of them. Please don't touch the MHP/HOG orders, they're arranged for someone. The other four (UTS, DW, PFE, FOD) I'd be grateful if people took them on. Many thanks! [13-Jul-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ectoplasma** left.* [13-Jul-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fresh BHP.CI1 listed here on the LM [13-Jul-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at 1800/u [13-Jul-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Awe man Ectoplasma left. I was about to call the Ghost Busters!! [13-Jul-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Quick baseline check for any junior manufacturers. With LST at 40/u on UV-072c (+5,000 for shipping) and SIO at 50/u (+5,000), BMP @ 130% efficiency and PIO/d = 8. Total cost of MCG should be 11.80 - 11.95 vs market rates of ~18-25/u. [13-Jul-22 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm going to start tracking and periodically releasing the Katoa Manufacturing Index (KMI). The KMI will track the cost of a unit of MCFG as manufactured by a relatively new player on Katoa with no special access, vertical integration, or corporation support. The KMI takes into account: daily conumables at market rates, BMP efficiency of COGC + 3 experts, production fees, cost of LST and SIO, as well as market-priced fuel if you spend 400 SF collecting SIO from the exchange and 300 SF and 50 FF collecting LST from UV-072c. [13-Jul-22 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Today the KMI is << 11.84 >> [13-Jul-22 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: This will also be tracked in Katoa UFO Discord [13-Jul-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Neke runs the best beginner campaign. No wonder the airlock never gets used these days [13-Jul-22 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Fill your tank for a good price. [13-Jul-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [13-Jul-22 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I got 300 FTL for 3,3000. [13-Jul-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Headed to bed. Will fill the order in the morning. [13-Jul-22 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***madjrod55** joined.* [13-Jul-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: @neke86 I'm planning on building a GF (not girlfriend the other one) currently I am missing the 6 LSE and 5 TRU I think I might finish it in five ish days if I can get LSE's for cheapish [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay, you can accept ad? [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: yeah [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: aight, better be fast [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: fastest in the relative east [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: Ill let you know when im set up with the GF so I can order some SIO from you [13-Jul-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: Thanks again [13-Jul-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can do you 5 TRU right now [13-Jul-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 200/u [13-Jul-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not even I have purchasing power to do LSE haha [13-Jul-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: lol it would be much appreciated [13-Jul-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if u put a buy ad on LM i'll fill it [13-Jul-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: im just a basic [14-Jul-22 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Danger-chan** left.* [14-Jul-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TaxThePoor** left.* [14-Jul-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***suckLULU** joined.* [14-Jul-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you @Sarantia for picking up the FOD and PFE contracts :) [14-Jul-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Selfkiller102** joined.* [14-Jul-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: thats a rough name [14-Jul-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I can spare 5 LSE, drop me a PM. [14-Jul-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone here running 20 BMPs or more? [14-Jul-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: 20bmp's? thats crazy [14-Jul-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I had 30 at one point [14-Jul-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: had to scale back to make room for side gigs [14-Jul-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I want to scale from 20 down to 12, but I kind of want to make sure there's another couple large manufacturers [14-Jul-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There are significant gaps on the CX [14-Jul-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FolkloristOfTheFuture** joined.* [14-Jul-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KUROTECH** left.* [14-Jul-22 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Etherium** joined.* [14-Jul-22 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I will scale up in the next couple of weeks. Where do you see the most urgent gaps on the cx? [14-Jul-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm about to fuck Mikal on REP again, and I can keep that. PWO is generally well under hand, OVE is a permanent struggle, hard to source RCO permanently. EXO/PT wax and wane. [14-Jul-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We also never really expanded over to NC1, which, if more people were manufacturing should be _easily_ achieved [14-Jul-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Lets coordinate on monday when im back from my vacation [14-Jul-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You, me, Sarantia and Pantalaimon are all on Discord, we should get a manufacturing channel going or something [14-Jul-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i might have some spare ove soon too [14-Jul-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And see who else here is running 5-6 BMPs at a minimum [14-Jul-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We don't have to form a corp, but a manufacturers guild thats at least informed about what others are doing etc [14-Jul-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eldaran** joined.* [14-Jul-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: I have 7 BMPs running here on Katoa, with some Textile Man. and Weaving Plants. Rest is mainly electronics. [14-Jul-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: A Man. Guild Channel sounds interesting. [14-Jul-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***s13a46m79** joined.* [14-Jul-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have 7 BMPs as well, but as i said i will expand soon. And also 2 WPL [14-Jul-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Discord channel is a good idea [14-Jul-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: 15 BMPs 9 PPFs 1 SPF and 7 WPLs here so i guess id also join that channel [14-Jul-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Anyone have some DW they can fill on the LM. [14-Jul-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Just filled ya up [14-Jul-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: With 200 DW, that's all I can spare... [14-Jul-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have 1 LSE laying around? [14-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Yes ;) [14-Jul-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Does everyone just by He3 off the lm/cx, or is there a good supply of TS somewhere? [14-Jul-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: I put an Ad up Nicster thank you [14-Jul-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hello @nicster [14-Jul-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: TS is not readily available around here at a reasonable price. [14-Jul-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: At least on the LMs close by or the CX [14-Jul-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Hi @SmittyVentures! [14-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hope all is going well with you and your family [14-Jul-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I bring TS back from Hortus as part of my back haul sometimes, if you want a lot thats an option or if stuck and just need a little I always have some floating around (though I've moved my refining from Katoa to Umbra now so the last of the TS will follow that soon). [14-Jul-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I generally fly/ship HE3 in from Moria. If you are bored, you can pay 12/unit to have someone ship it from MOR to BEN and make a consistent profit above what you need. [14-Jul-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeaPear** deleted this message.* [14-Jul-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fry2000**: where is a good place nearby to buy H? [14-Jul-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prosha** joined.* [14-Jul-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @Fry2000 LM CB-282d [14-Jul-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve put small lots of cheap OVE on the LM. Please only take one. [14-Jul-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And preferably only if you’re a smaller player; any large trade partners who want to arrange cheap OVE, DM me directly [14-Jul-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: so what ur saying is... [14-Jul-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: It isn't for me? [14-Jul-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you’re not a small player but that’s fine :D [14-Jul-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: most of the real small players can’t use LM anyway [14-Jul-22 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah can take one of course [14-Jul-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yayimspecial14** left.* [14-Jul-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: twas making a joke lol [14-Jul-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Nah. @newplayers, Neke is a really solid guy. He's offering RAT at super cheap prices, you should take him up on his offer. 20 OVE can last you a week or two [14-Jul-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Any GIN distillers here? [14-Jul-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The Katoa Manufacturers Index is up to 13.31 with minor rise in the cost of LST.CI1 and sustained high market pricing in RAT.CI1, OVE.CI1, and COF.CI1. LST, RAT, and OVE are all available locally to small manufacturers to alleviate this margin pressure. [14-Jul-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Daily BMP profit per the KMI would be 1,740.89 CIS. [14-Jul-22 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Sure I make some GIN but just shipped off some off. [14-Jul-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can you keep me some of your next batches pls :) [14-Jul-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sarantia**: Sure, any other ENG upkeep you need? [14-Jul-22 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nah that's my main problem, need 1.5/d and the CX is le fucked [14-Jul-22 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: The problem with GIN is the ES. None sold at the local CX in over a month and the stuff listed there is 3750 each.If ya can find cheap ES I could make a few batches but no way I am paying that price when I can make more coin selling lesser drinks. [15-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KillerBush** joined.* [15-Jul-22 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KillerBush** left.* [15-Jul-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: That was a quick turn around lol [15-Jul-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc4fdd99733** left.* [15-Jul-22 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spunkyghost** left.* [15-Jul-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordanoii_tkto** left.* [15-Jul-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have pt and exo? just looking for 5 each [15-Jul-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KlampK**: i have the PT [15-Jul-22 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: exo posted [15-Jul-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeltaSwing** left.* [15-Jul-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeleCheesecake** joined.* [15-Jul-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeltaSwing** joined.* [15-Jul-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0266c5ba6d** left.* [15-Jul-22 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: Much obliged [15-Jul-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vassago** joined.* [15-Jul-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have some 40k PG on Katoa if you need some just place a buy ad at a reasonable price ;) [15-Jul-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ill take 150 [15-Jul-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: done :) [15-Jul-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: thanks [15-Jul-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ReapTheBlackSheep** left.* [15-Jul-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ascarppy** joined.* [15-Jul-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BelterOPA** left.* [15-Jul-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doctor_Goat** joined.* [15-Jul-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsMulters** left.* [15-Jul-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Furykhai** left.* [15-Jul-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***matt0817** joined.* [15-Jul-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RatchetOrion** joined.* [15-Jul-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yezzed** joined.* [15-Jul-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have brought some TRU.CI1 supply in [15-Jul-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Starting at 295 and will slowly bring it down, need to avoid it getting flipped by a parasite [15-Jul-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I mean, trader [15-Jul-22 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fudge_filled** joined.* [15-Jul-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiq** deleted this message.* [15-Jul-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i've been thta parasite before. i had mixed feelings. on the one hand, a jerk move, but on the other, i felt i was doing ruthless space capitalism right for once. [15-Jul-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That’s the game [15-Jul-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But there’s a difference between β€œoffering liquidity” to markets, or helping even out lumpy supply and demand, and simply buying out every item in a shortage and then reposting them at a higher price [16-Jul-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: about shortages, where the hell is KOM? :) [16-Jul-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Now that one I inadvertently contributed to [16-Jul-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have 15 for sale on the LM for the last several hours [16-Jul-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: any chance for more Grandpa? [16-Jul-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I've been putting up 15 to 20 every 2nd day incase of emergency or small users [16-Jul-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I woud buy abother 50 [16-Jul-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can fill 50 [16-Jul-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: price? 325 is ok? [16-Jul-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: All I can spare is another 5 now. A few more within 24 hrs but only 15 then I think [16-Jul-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: you want me to list the 5? [16-Jul-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hang on lmc what I paid [16-Jul-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 349 [16-Jul-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: If neke can supply all 50 then keep it for smaller player [16-Jul-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah all 50 [16-Jul-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok, means I can put up 15-20 again tomorrow [16-Jul-22 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ad is up [16-Jul-22 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thx guys [16-Jul-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: there is also 5 COF on the LM from me if any use [16-Jul-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Untill I can make larger amounts Ill list small abount of both these daily [16-Jul-22 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I hope to start doing the same for FIM soon as well [16-Jul-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: btw, @neke86 do you have some BHP right now? I need another 8pcs [16-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: would be 12-14 hours [16-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just shipped to the CX [16-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure, I can wait [16-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1800u [16-Jul-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll fill any LM orders for BHP at 1,800u or better, and LHP at 1,500u. On the CX I charge 1950/1650 [16-Jul-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have resting quantities on the CX but at a premium, to stop _traders_ buying them all and pRoVidiNg LiQuiDiTy [16-Jul-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: similarly I'm building up stocks of SSC.CI1 [16-Jul-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Once ship upgrades are available, almost every blueprint modification will require some base structural change (BHP+SSC) [16-Jul-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So ensuring there's stock for Katoans to do upgrades with [16-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also started my first baby steps in a long production line to making AST available for ship kit building [16-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But that will be a collaboration with FOWL :) [16-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A small step for you and FOWL a big leap for us all. [16-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Heh [16-Jul-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Probably the other way around - a huge amount of effort for us, to bring everyone a small step closer :D [16-Jul-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Those Magic DW sells are to fund components for the PAR upgrade, they're donations to infrastructure, please only take them if you can afford it :) [16-Jul-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Further discussions for this are in the katoa-politics Discord channel on UFO. [16-Jul-22 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dead_Person** joined.* [16-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So how do I get access to appropriate channels on discord? [16-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The Unified Factions Discord is here: https://discord.gg/sEAavjtc [16-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Then you want to tell the UFOBot "!join katoa" [16-Jul-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I will also be able to provide lhp/bhp and ssc. But i don't want to eat into nekes profits :) [16-Jul-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: nekes profit is the friends they made along the way [16-Jul-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crazy-Dave** joined.* [16-Jul-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: everyone coordinating amazing things in Katoa and I'm just running so my workers don't have to eat overalls today [16-Jul-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Don't hesitate to ask questions @hackerzul, everyone on katoa has been great at giving advice. Also check out the discord [16-Jul-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***onebyte_games** joined.* [16-Jul-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I feed my workers overalls all the time, they say they're very healthy for you [16-Jul-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: they're all droids anyway; don't even need oxygen [16-Jul-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I fine overalls are tastier if you spill a little COF on them first and the workers prefer that over plain overall flavour. [16-Jul-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: sounds too expensive [16-Jul-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: COF? we don't have budget for PWO [16-Jul-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Just rub a few beans over some used sweaty overalls. [16-Jul-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_coindexter_** left.* [16-Jul-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: More KOM.CI1 is coming, about 600/day, but it won’t arrive for 48 hours. Please don’t knee jerk react and start building FER/DDT pipe line because Gravy will have the exchange flooded at cheap prices as soon as possible [16-Jul-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some big buyers caused an availability shock due to shipping, not supply. There is KOM, just needs to be brought in. [16-Jul-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: down with the KOMmunists ;) [16-Jul-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Y'all can make KOM. I just try to set the price at 350 or less. And we had that since the end of May. [16-Jul-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I legit sold thousands of KOM in 5 days. My normal listings, safety stock and shipments that came I. All sucked up [16-Jul-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: who's so thirsty? [16-Jul-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: A lot of the big guys buy in bulk. Just happened a few did all in quick succession [16-Jul-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: That plus I think we are seeing a nice uptick in KOM usage with the lower price [16-Jul-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I honestly didn't use KOM until I made it, just didn't make enough extra production [16-Jul-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: But at 350 (or lower) it starts paying off [16-Jul-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone have N here? [16-Jul-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: We need DDT as well for us smaller KOM producers. Seems it dried up as well [16-Jul-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: @knarfaction do you have any PG left? [16-Jul-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa Manufacturing Index has risen to 14.59 due mostly to a spike in the CX Ask price of SF.CI1. CONS are slightly down, except for PWO, and LST/SIO are steady in the 50-70/u reference range. Locally supplied fuel where the going rate is ~10/u would lower this appreciably. [16-Jul-22 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: With the Index at 14.59 and a fair CX asking price for MCG being 22/u, the reference daily profit for a BMP running at 153% eff. is 2,266 CIS/day. [16-Jul-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bun1227** left.* [16-Jul-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antheraxlemonaid** joined.* [16-Jul-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slcrawfu** left.* [16-Jul-22 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: ... @neke86, Carbon price go BRRRR [16-Jul-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Looks like the KCC have upped the benchmark price to 350 [16-Jul-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That must just be trying to balance supply and demand? [16-Jul-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Actually, seems about right given sustained high CONS pricing [16-Jul-22 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone have anything to go from Katoa to Proxion? Have a good amount of space for trip there, but limited for the way back later. [16-Jul-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Guess not, I'm away. [16-Jul-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: C was cheap at Hortus, so I picked up a stack as part of my backload. [17-Jul-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone going from ben to katoa with 312t of empty space? shipping ad on LM [17-Jul-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ive got a ship there ill do it [17-Jul-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thx [17-Jul-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ill just do some shopping and then ill depart [17-Jul-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: wouldnt it make more sense for extra cheap fuel corp to do its own shipping? :P [17-Jul-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: logistics are a bottleneck [17-Jul-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sadly I'm not extra cheap ships build corp :) [17-Jul-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Margins on fuel right now are above 50%. Nice time to sell some fuel lol [17-Jul-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: my ships are 90% of time moving mats between my bases [17-Jul-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and I'm too poor to buy third ship :( [17-Jul-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i guess im an underachiever because i only have one base still [17-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: having one base is great for logistic [17-Jul-22 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: but i made a minimal SF refining as a side hustle and its sweet [17-Jul-22 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes, at current prices its just pure profit [17-Jul-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adim2** left.* [17-Jul-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so you’re saying you could sell it cheaper.. [17-Jul-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I'm already selling it cheaper :) [17-Jul-22 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I sell it for 10 on LM despite ben price of 11.50 to 12.50 [17-Jul-22 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and I won't even mention moria SF price tag :) [17-Jul-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kukudas** left.* [17-Jul-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I can ramp up fuel production if driving the price down really is desirable, just got a nice balance being self-sufficient with my 3 refineries currently. [17-Jul-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MilleniuM_SSA** left.* [17-Jul-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toki-3** left.* [17-Jul-22 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: lower prices = higher volumes / more flying [17-Jul-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: My flying is need dependent not price impacted. Apart from when I'm doing a Hortus run, I normally just use the one ship for now. [17-Jul-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: I hope you're entirely self sufficient or you'll also feel the rising prices of other materials. High fuel prices will naturally drive up the cost of everything on the markets [17-Jul-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Regardless, good on you for making good profit [17-Jul-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Adding another refinery or two isn't hard if there is a real fuel shortage, I can supply them via the CX while my existing 3 are supplied from my own extrations. [17-Jul-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJ_Panncake** joined.* [17-Jul-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DJ_Panncake**: hi there [17-Jul-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Hey DJ! [17-Jul-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Hi @DJ_Panncake [17-Jul-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welcome dj_panncake [17-Jul-22 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Hi DJ! [17-Jul-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: damn i wish i could count lol, any one got one BDE they can spare on LM [17-Jul-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I have few extra [17-Jul-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: post ad [17-Jul-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much you want? [17-Jul-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: 1,4k. I don't make those [17-Jul-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i piut 1500 thanks for the help [17-Jul-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: np [17-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 have some H on Katoa to sell me? [17-Jul-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: i ran out of it and will need few days to get more. 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Rated "A" for visibility. [17-Jul-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***12344man** left.* [17-Jul-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vollix** joined.* [17-Jul-22 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freel** joined.* [18-Jul-22 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caylus** joined.* [18-Jul-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmallKittyPaws** left.* [18-Jul-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 10 packages of 50 SIO on the LM for 50/u (SIO.CI1). These are intended for newer players wanting to run BMPs. The payment period is at 10 days and i will deliver immediatly. Please do not bulk buy :-). [18-Jul-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you Nicster :) [18-Jul-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: while u are buying that there are PWO's that will increase the speed of ur workers [18-Jul-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: they are under the cx price and no shipping [18-Jul-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @VerdeV I don't think there is a real fuel shortage. The demand is just controlled. [18-Jul-22 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Supply is artificially constrained maybe? [18-Jul-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: also its hard to build realy big fuel refinery for new player. I make 6k SF per day and I hit the wall. I can't make more with only 2 basic ships. Already one of my ships is doing contant trips to cb-282d and back to supply H. [18-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 6k SF per day is no joke for a new players [18-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's a great effort [18-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and if you are flat out with logistics that means you've optimized well, and its time to expand [18-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: either a base on CB282 yourself, or a permanent supply arrangement [18-Jul-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone for KAT > BEN shipping imminent departure [18-Jul-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: fast burn [18-Jul-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1,300t avail [18-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1,200t [18-Jul-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @Nicster can I get 2 of those SIO packages? I'm preparing to make SI, 50 ore won't last long [18-Jul-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's also _a lot_ of SIO on the CX at 60 [18-Jul-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or just geve me the price for a shipload of SIO [18-Jul-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I brought a lot of sand with me from Etherwind for this purpose [18-Jul-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: right, that works too, I'll hit the CX later [18-Jul-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gancho** left.* [18-Jul-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Annopedia** left.* [18-Jul-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @neke86, yeah of course i meant to say supply :-D [18-Jul-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @Gilith yeah of course, just take them of the LM :-) [18-Jul-22 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i also sell at 40 for katoans on Etherwind, but then you have to ship it yourselves [18-Jul-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: shipload of SIO on EW is 11160 [18-Jul-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Florelle** left.* [18-Jul-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***marine307** deleted this message.* [18-Jul-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bear_boy187** left.* [18-Jul-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: thanks, ad posted on Etherwind LM [18-Jul-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redshock** joined.* [18-Jul-22 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hariharalaya** joined.* [18-Jul-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: moving BEN>KAT 450t space available [18-Jul-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Is there a way to destroy a production building? [18-Jul-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes. open your base buffer, BS UV-351a [18-Jul-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: click buildings, and there are demolish buttons for each building [18-Jul-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Is there a faster way to get more BSE or do I have to fly to the station and buy them? [18-Jul-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, you could buy on LM but that requires basic+ license. or make them yourself :) [18-Jul-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or demolish a building you don't need to reclaim some, but not all, of its prefabs [18-Jul-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hariharalaya** left.* [18-Jul-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: So for me yeah. I got to fly and buy. I tried deleting one but still need more. lol. [18-Jul-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: as you're a new player, you should actually reclaim all of the materials when demolishing for the 1st day [18-Jul-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: what's your starting package and what are you trying to build? [18-Jul-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FoxGloved** joined.* [18-Jul-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Sorry. Not my first day. its my second. I am a fuel engineer and I need to build the mineral extractor and refinery. I have the collector. [18-Jul-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: did you offload your stuff from your ship? [18-Jul-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Yeah and I used it not knowing what to build. Now I have to buy more BSE to build stuff. [18-Jul-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: COLIQ [18-Jul-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: liquidate and start again before you get to far in to have the best start [18-Jul-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: How do I do that? [18-Jul-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: click new buffer at the bottom left and then type coliq [18-Jul-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vollix** left.* [18-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ducksrule** joined.* [18-Jul-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vollix** joined.* [18-Jul-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: instantly missing some after liquidating and building only one collector. Am I doing something wrong? Because if i still have to fly to the station to buy some i just lost a half a day in flight time liquidating. [18-Jul-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: check this https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JJe2kjcXU7Y_CJrHS5lgFdB9R_DtkXkqAncgOSNW3c/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JJe2kjcXU7Y_CJrHS5lgFdB9R_DtkXkqAncgOSNW3c/edit Fuel Refiner tutorial Starting as a fuel refiner in Prosperous Universe. Basics 1 Choosing a starting region 2 Hortus 2 Moria 2 Benten 3 Antares 3 What to do after you start 3 GAL planet (Boucher, Katoa) 3 BOR planet (XG-430c, Electronica) 4 Close to CX planet 6 Frontier start 7 Basics Primary export: STL Fuel (... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6EqJawHY3iVBSkLuksc7S7mqx6wS7zPgXps3xOgkdIY/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/kSDpubiOY3tDob9DDr9-4aIiXY-zRUYcRJN9uR5_gOV2DOYfIBRdt_IuoY40mk5hhJ9to0W74iZV0g%3Dw1200-h630-p [18-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: thank you [18-Jul-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: build extractor and refinery, and habitat. you won't have enough prefabs for collector [18-Jul-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: start with the above, then go to cx and buy materials for collector; you may have to sell some fuel to afford it [18-Jul-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: a settler habitat? [18-Jul-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: because i need settlers for the refinery [18-Jul-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: no, pioneer [18-Jul-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you need both pioeers and settlers, but you can't afford both. start with pioneers [18-Jul-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: your refinery won't run at 100% efficiency, but it will still run [18-Jul-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: ok. I might have to liquidate again just because I built the collector first before I saw your build order. [18-Jul-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: build settler hab when you can afford it- don't forget to also get consumables for settlers [18-Jul-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: jus demolish it then [18-Jul-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: So do I need to start a ship towards the station now to buy stuff since it is a day trip each way? [18-Jul-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it depends on how much fuel you use. burn more fuel to get there faster- you're a fuel producer after all :) [18-Jul-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: with 185 fuel you can cut it down to about 12h one way [18-Jul-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i use about 250 a trip as my time is worth more to me so you have to find ur sweet spot [18-Jul-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: but before you launch, build your extractor, refinery and habitat, queue some SF fuel and make sure the production line is running [18-Jul-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I have 500 unites of SF queued up and 45 GAL queued up [18-Jul-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: units* [18-Jul-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I will need to buy hydrogen. Only thing I can't collect from here. [18-Jul-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes, you'll need to buy H soon. you should have some included in your starting package [18-Jul-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I do. Just something I noticed. So start a flight now so i can go buy stuff or wait for some fuel to finish first? [18-Jul-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: up to you. I'd fly now, you have 40k cash, should be enough for some basics [18-Jul-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Ok cool. Thank you for everything. This is a little overwhelming but seems fun! [18-Jul-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: try to get the collector first (you'll need another pioneer habitat too), then settler habitat and consumables for settlers [18-Jul-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: good luck! fuel prices are high, you'll do fine [18-Jul-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: so 10h 26m is going to cost me 214 fuel. one way I am guessing. lol [18-Jul-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: follow that fuel guide it will help lots [18-Jul-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I got it. the time is shorter now. I didnt realize they were already full. So I was basing it off my storage. we all good now. I am learning. lmao [18-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone have anything from Katoa for Benton Stn? Leaving soon with well over 100 space. [18-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Quick trip [18-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: sure [18-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok post it, up to 200 weight [18-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: posted [18-Jul-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: that was small, anyone have anything else? [18-Jul-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: thx [18-Jul-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joronimo**: 1 more [18-Jul-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Loaded, last call for about 100 weight or less. [18-Jul-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ok she is gone. Will deliver there in about 9 hrs [18-Jul-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mad_Maxima** left.* [18-Jul-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bmarinov** joined.* [18-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** joined.* [18-Jul-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bmarinov**: hi [18-Jul-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Welcome bmarinov. Any questions? [18-Jul-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking to buy 1 CQT and 1 BRS, have buy up on cxl but happy to buy here also [18-Jul-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bmarinov**: yea well..what is best to start with for fuel? [18-Jul-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: SF if you get most of the inputs yourself [18-Jul-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You will need to buy H [18-Jul-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Slower than light seems consistently good, though for some reason faster than light has ticked up at Benton atm. [18-Jul-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: would recommend reading https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JJe2kjcXU7Y_CJrHS5lgFdB9R_DtkXkqAncgOSNW3c/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JJe2kjcXU7Y_CJrHS5lgFdB9R_DtkXkqAncgOSNW3c/edit Fuel Refiner tutorial Starting as a fuel refiner in Prosperous Universe. Basics 1 Choosing a starting region 2 Hortus 2 Moria 2 Benten 3 Antares 3 What to do after you start 3 GAL planet (Boucher, Katoa) 3 BOR planet (XG-430c, Electronica) 4 Close to CX planet 6 Frontier start 7 Basics Primary export: STL Fuel (... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6EqJawHY3iVBSkLuksc7S7mqx6wS7zPgXps3xOgkdIY/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/kSDpubiOY3tDob9DDr9-4aIiXY-zRUYcRJN9uR5_gOV2DOYfIBRdt_IuoY40mk5hhJ9to0W74iZV0g%3Dw1200-h630-p [18-Jul-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chiton** left.* [18-Jul-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Catshot89** joined.* [18-Jul-22 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SanguchitoDeJamon** left.* [18-Jul-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: How do I know if the resources I bought are on my ship? [18-Jul-22 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I thought I bought some from the market. It took my money. [18-Jul-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Check the ships inventory [18-Jul-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If the ship wasnt there when the transaction occurred, and you had no warehouse at the station, check the CONTS (Contracts) buffer [18-Jul-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: there is probably one there waitinfg for you to collect [18-Jul-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone running a TNP here or in Benten space? [18-Jul-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: KOM.CI1 [18-Jul-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: back to where it should be. With a lot more enroute [18-Jul-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I did put my price below the asking one. So am I waiting for someone to sell it at that price before it gives it to me? [18-Jul-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes [18-Jul-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: My two ship windows have no resources in them. [18-Jul-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: oh ok. cool [18-Jul-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What resource are we discussing, and what exchange [18-Jul-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If the ask is 1000 and you offer 800, the money is escrowed but no, you haven't bought anything [18-Jul-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you go to CXOS buffer you will see the in progress order, and can cancel it to free up the cash [18-Jul-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: H, MCG, and BSE at the benton station market. [18-Jul-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I see the orders still there on the market [18-Jul-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: They'll fill eventually [18-Jul-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: oh ok. You think better to wait or go buy asking price so I can build and grow faster? [18-Jul-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Given that you're waiting to save some cents, I'd just buy the products [18-Jul-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Ok cool. Thank you! [18-Jul-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Seriously. Thank you for all of the help. This game seems awesome just a lot to take in. [19-Jul-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benton Stn very soon. space for about 300 in shipments. Will be under 24hr trip. Anyone wanna ship anything? [19-Jul-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Going to Katoa of course [19-Jul-22 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: No takers, I am away then. [19-Jul-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c3909458c** left.* [19-Jul-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MHL.CI1 and TRU.CI1 listed on CX :) [19-Jul-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell some DW on katoa? [19-Jul-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: how much do you need? If it's emergancy I can share some of my own stock [19-Jul-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but I'm not making DW myself [19-Jul-22 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: yea..well for day or 2 till i can deliver [19-Jul-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: 30 per day..so nything you can will be great [19-Jul-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure, post ad. price will be 50 because I will have to buy it again in ben [19-Jul-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: sure. how much to ad? [19-Jul-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: i can spare 60pcs [19-Jul-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: posted [19-Jul-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: ty m8 [19-Jul-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: np :) [19-Jul-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userada2791346** left.* [19-Jul-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2bfcb31a3e** left.* [19-Jul-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ove and pwo on the LM cheaper then CX [19-Jul-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sogsy1106** left.* [19-Jul-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mason4TheWin** left.* [19-Jul-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TiredCanadianBeaver** left.* [19-Jul-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Hey Everyone! How are you? [19-Jul-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Good! How are you? [19-Jul-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Im going good. Wishing my ship would fly faster. I need some money. lmao [19-Jul-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: doing* [19-Jul-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Lol [19-Jul-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: boy I can not wait to be able to have multiple refineries going. lmao. I am slowly getting the hang of this and now I want more! lmao [19-Jul-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: lol---BIGGER BETTER FASTER lol [19-Jul-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: STRONGER^ [19-Jul-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I want it all! Lmao [19-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Real question. How do I refuel my ship? I havent seen just a button. [19-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ya ya, build your own ship, feed the world, make millions selling. We all there with ya. [19-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caylus**: "fuel" button opens the fuel tank, then drag from cargo/base [19-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Ok cool. Thank you! [19-Jul-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: I just have to wait like 3 days worth of production to refuel my ships. lol. [19-Jul-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***minmpaf** left.* [19-Jul-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Salio** joined.* [19-Jul-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berichtin** joined.* [19-Jul-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: @tark are you here? [19-Jul-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aralito99** joined.* [19-Jul-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr-Wednesday** left.* [19-Jul-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RacerMaus8833** left.* [19-Jul-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dulloils** joined.* [19-Jul-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: @Hermanek Need me to relay a message? [19-Jul-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No takers for 16 MHL @ 2.500/u ? [19-Jul-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LM Sell is up [19-Jul-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: stock on hand [19-Jul-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10-day payment for anyone slightly illiquid [19-Jul-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Im am trying to get a second base up, so 40k is a little much for me to do along with that right now. [19-Jul-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Miowo** left.* [19-Jul-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Anyone here sells H? I need a cargo hold full. [19-Jul-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LM CB-282d [19-Jul-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Oh thanks. [19-Jul-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @PaidLeber - I sent you a PM about Hydrogen [19-Jul-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone running a BMP might wish to get some EXO.CI1 and PT.CI1 up to the CX if you can do it easily [19-Jul-22 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: thanks for the heads up [19-Jul-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: POPR. POPR came in strong again. I won't be running the ENG program unless people contact me and let me know they've opened new ENG requirements. There are again no open jobs and we'll be pushing from 5 towards 10% unemployment without it. I'll continue to watch SET numbers and ensure they don't overburden the Safety score, and I'm making steady progress to a PAR upgrade to bolster comfort with minimal extra burden on POPI. [19-Jul-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: @BlueHeeler Got it [20-Jul-22 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf265619ee** left.* [20-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lupitu** joined.* [20-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm looking for TCL acid. is anyone making it in benten space? [20-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: how much are you looking for? [20-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: depends on how much I an afford... 50, maybe 100 [20-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: can* [20-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cannot believe there are no takers for 16 MHL at a discount to every CX during a CAF/COF shortage [20-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wtf [20-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I do not understand business good [20-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Where are they listed? I only need 1 as I shut down my hydorponics when the NS proved overly expensive. [20-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It just expired off Katoa LM, now they’re on a ship to EW [20-Jul-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will set them up myself [20-Jul-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: @neke86 I'm a little short on a cash right now but, I do want those [20-Jul-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: I don't even know what they are.. but I want them also! [20-Jul-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Hey everyone! [20-Jul-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balthazar** joined.* [20-Jul-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: So do we ever go to war? I take over the grey planents on the map? Is that a thing? [20-Jul-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***x86Cow** left.* [20-Jul-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: War is on the roadmap, but it will not destroy production. Definitely not Eve [20-Jul-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: @neke86 i was told about a factory discord? [20-Jul-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Anyone have a better deal on coffee than 550 cis? [20-Jul-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will sell you 10 for 5000 [20-Jul-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dagda** left.* [20-Jul-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @blueheeler I messaged you [20-Jul-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dracoian** joined.* [20-Jul-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: How do I add a Buffer to my screen permanently? [20-Jul-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: its easy, just split one of your windows and drop the tab in your buffer in the empty window [20-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/apex-overview/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/apex-overview/ 1. APEX overview :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [20-Jul-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crazyabeldog** left.* [20-Jul-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mumbo** left.* [20-Jul-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: SmittyVentures, are you ready. [20-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SIres** joined.* [20-Jul-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maceo** left.* [20-Jul-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone have UTS on planet? [20-Jul-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***devvywevvy** left.* [20-Jul-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Is there a buffer that tells you all the abbreviations of the materials? [20-Jul-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don’t think so, I end up using the CX for thst [20-Jul-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Ok cool. Thank you! [20-Jul-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: nope. check all the categories in CX AI1 buffer if ou really want to browse them all [20-Jul-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nogr03** left.* [20-Jul-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrausAlbar** left.* [20-Jul-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4a2eb9b98a** left.* [20-Jul-22 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kelphir** joined.* [20-Jul-22 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone need stuff shipped from Benton Stn to Katoa? 1 day trip or less and have just over 300 space open. [20-Jul-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No thank you [20-Jul-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap SIO listed on the LM here [20-Jul-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If someone wants all 250 units, I'll do 38/u [20-Jul-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nehemjad** joined.* [20-Jul-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mkasu** joined.* [21-Jul-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: LM is unlocked for Pro License players only, right? [21-Jul-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Or to accept contracts if you're on Basic (went pro at some stage). [21-Jul-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [21-Jul-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greensman** joined.* [21-Jul-22 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Tof_** joined.* [21-Jul-22 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kjolnyr** left.* [21-Jul-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yeah, my first PTs are finished produced. It took me 2 weeks only. XD The start of this game is really slow [21-Jul-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yes, slllooowwww. It is not for people who want boom boom fast arcade stuff. [21-Jul-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hehehe. I am not looking for fast arcade. But at least once per day something to do would be fine. At the moment the Pro License seems quite expensive considering that at I my actual state logging in for 3-4 time a week for 5-10 mins is enough to do all I can do. But let's see. I can be patient. Maybe it will become more worth the money later :-) [21-Jul-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have 87 days in now. U waited a week till I got the Pro license. I lost money my first 2 weeks as well. Now I have a base over 500 in size with 23 production buildings. Today I will build my second base. I am busy now but in the first month it was very slow. Lots of time to over analyze the numbers lol. [21-Jul-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see. [21-Jul-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I still feels small though against the long time players. [21-Jul-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: First couple weeks you are playing Excel the video game [21-Jul-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: There are always big players. But I don't expect to compete them. If I have fun playing my small company, then it's enough for me [21-Jul-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and after those couple of week you just play excel...not even video game edition :) [21-Jul-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Agreed. Setting personal goals is very rewarding here. [21-Jul-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Lol @Thoern [21-Jul-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hehe.. I can understand this with excel. actually it took me almost one week to find out how much money I have. XD [21-Jul-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Now I need to see if my first PTs make some profit or are just a waste of money [21-Jul-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If I survive the first month without going bankrupt, then I will thin about a Pro Lic [21-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It really changes the amount of things you can do to make money. [21-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Yes. I saw. For example now I needed to send my half empty ship to Benton CX, since I cannot make a transport job [21-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: the thing with PRO is that it allows you to accept shipping contracts, which are in my opinion one of the most lucrative way to earn money in the beginning. plus it's an additional aspect of this game :-). [21-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yes [21-Jul-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: so, shameless plug: check LM CB-282d for lucrative contracts :-) [21-Jul-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: at start shipping is best income possible [21-Jul-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: good old CB-282d shipping contracts for 12k :D [21-Jul-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: my way of giving back to the people :-D [21-Jul-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Hello Nicster [21-Jul-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Hi smitty! [21-Jul-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: half of my industry was build on those shipping contracts from CB-282d [21-Jul-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But I don't want to spend this much money, if I am not sure, that it's worth it. I want to learn about the game first. It has some good and interesting aspects. But I will wait for 1-2 more weeks until I make the decision. [21-Jul-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: There is defiantly one thing new players have that all long term players do not. Time and space to ship items themselves. [21-Jul-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yes... and now my half empty ship is on the way, wasting fuel just because I need the first income to buy new raw materials for the production XD [21-Jul-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I remeber the first day I just could not transport all I needed and had to make shipping contracts to make things work for needed deliveries. [21-Jul-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A real eye opener and strategy changer. [21-Jul-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: While we're reminiscing. @Grandpa_Canuck took the first shipping contract I ever made [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yeah when i started, i also couldn't fathom the logistical nightmare bigger players have. now i understand :-D [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I can't wait to see this coming update. Ship upgrades and specialized contracts will open up a lot of posibilities. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @nicster I messaged you [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @DasRallum That is a good idea. But so you know. When you have Pro Once and go back to not paying you will have BASIC, which allows you to accept contracts and not post. This is already sufficient to accept shipping contracts [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah my pro just expired last night, I will be renewing at the start of the month. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I understand [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: This game seems to draw in good people. I find the chat totally non toxic and almost everyone has good input. After 3 months few games can claim that in their online chat rooms. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I agree Grandpa! [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Ah that is nice to say, Grandpa! [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Sorry, I grew up with both my Grandpa's and they were awesome! Kinda miss them. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I think players drawn to this game understand the concept of "business to business" relations and likely most have some practical experience in it. Well us over 60 people like games too and have the time to play a lot. Enjoy the interaction with people across age groups and world locations. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My name was chosed to expres who I am, an old Canadian guy. Hate being taken for a young 'merican tween in gaming groups. No offence intended to any of those here. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I figured you were an older Canadian dude! Still worried your a Canucks fan though. Maple Leaf fan here! LOL [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: No, not big on hockey anymore. But I was around when the leafs won the cup! [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Best hocky ever was the 72 USSR Canada series. Real COLD WAR on ice. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Oh I bet! [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Seeing Hendersons goal in game 8 was the best ever hockey thing. Crosby in that Olmpic game as a distant second. Ok enough hockey. Lets get back to trading. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am a first Generation American/Texan my mom is from Canada and lives there again now. That is why I am a Leaf fan. [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Flyers fan here :-) [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: although i am from switzerland :-) [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I saw Bobby Clark play live in the Junior B Championship way back when he was with Flin Flon [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: nice :-D [21-Jul-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i became a flyers fan because Danny Briere came to play in switzerland during the lockout and he was lighting the ice on fire :-D [21-Jul-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I have never been into hockey. But I watched two games of the Frankfurt Lions, when I lived close to this town. [21-Jul-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But I think this doesn't count [21-Jul-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrBu** joined.* [21-Jul-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: hey smitty check DM's [21-Jul-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hamidaziz** joined.* [21-Jul-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Does anyone want 3 Nylon @2500 each or shall I send to the CX? [21-Jul-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CameronMinsk** joined.* [21-Jul-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill take it [21-Jul-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loco.** left.* [21-Jul-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadBurns** joined.* [21-Jul-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thefallen.tj** left.* [21-Jul-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ludaduma** joined.* [21-Jul-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeathCafe** left.* [21-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shopped to Umbra? [21-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Shipped* [21-Jul-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I have 280 available [21-Jul-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Equinox6464** left.* [21-Jul-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WNPC** joined.* [21-Jul-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Local_Failure** joined.* [21-Jul-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BonniexLancerDsergal** joined.* [21-Jul-22 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's at least 5 full shipments for KAT > BEN on the LM for anyone looking to make 2500-3500 CIS. [21-Jul-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Wish I had an available ship. :( [21-Jul-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R01DS0Z** joined.* [21-Jul-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M.Lee** joined.* [21-Jul-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: anyone need anything moved kat->prox? [21-Jul-22 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***madjrod55** left.* [22-Jul-22 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I need urgently 42t moved from kat to umbra. Ad is on LM, payment 1k. [22-Jul-22 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dracoian** left.* [22-Jul-22 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dracoian** joined.* [22-Jul-22 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 130 units of MHL.CI1 at 2,500/u [22-Jul-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***something_whole** joined.* [22-Jul-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Has the .CI1 any meaning or is it simply that the system recognize it a a link/cmd ? [22-Jul-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it's the ID of Benten CX. see CXL buffer [22-Jul-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Ah I see. Thnaks [22-Jul-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cpt.Socke** joined.* [22-Jul-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: My first produced PTs, now aviable on Benton CX [22-Jul-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaoo** left.* [22-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpanDexDax** left.* [22-Jul-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone need shipments from Benten Stn to Katoa? Leaving soon with over 250 space open. [22-Jul-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Shipment always goes per shippemtn contract, which costs a fee creating it? [22-Jul-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Yes [22-Jul-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ads are up Grandpa :) [22-Jul-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I got 4 small one [22-Jul-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Still space open [22-Jul-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see. So it's not worth it to make a contract for a tiny shipment then [22-Jul-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If you need it bad enough/soon enough it is [22-Jul-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [22-Jul-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: The ad is only part of your cost. Paying for the shipping is low if it is light weight. [22-Jul-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: better a small contract than sending a whole ship for the same [22-Jul-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: true [22-Jul-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Pioneers don't die from starvation, correct? XD [22-Jul-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes, I just paid 1k for shipping of 4 small items. If I would send my own ship I would burn fuel for 5k [22-Jul-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: They just work less efficiently, or not at all if you don't provide anything [22-Jul-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ok, if it is only this, I can live with that. [22-Jul-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Last call for shipments from Benton Stn to Katoa. Will be a 1 day or less trip. Space open 200+ a little. [22-Jul-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nothing here [22-Jul-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: LOL everyone wants stuff the other way today. [22-Jul-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeap [22-Jul-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I'm gone. Lets see if I can get to Katoa and there still be any contracts left lol. [22-Jul-22 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 15k CIS shipping contracts for EW>KAT on flexible 5-day delivery terms. Payment up front naturally. [22-Jul-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: What isa EW? Different system? [22-Jul-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yes, Etherwind. See the Local market shipping contracts. [22-Jul-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [22-Jul-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thank you all. I slowly get into the game. :-) [22-Jul-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d6fae1966** left.* [22-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xenith** joined.* [22-Jul-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Does anyone have some ammonia they can sell to me? [22-Jul-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***s13a46m79** left.* [22-Jul-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Still looking @blueheeler [22-Jul-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: yes [22-Jul-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I've got 40 units on hand [22-Jul-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'll buy those. Cost? [22-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: say 90/u? [22-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Great, shall I post the buy? [22-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I just posted a sell ad [22-Jul-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Got it thanks. [22-Jul-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: No prob [22-Jul-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TanRT92** joined.* [22-Jul-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***R01DS0Z** left.* [22-Jul-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: selling 200 GRN on LM in 4 batches of 50 [22-Jul-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R01DS0Z** joined.* [22-Jul-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lukat** left.* [22-Jul-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FloridamanCoke** left.* [22-Jul-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Mikal just bought the 139 MHL I listed for 2500 and immediately re list them for 4000 [22-Jul-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cakepomme** left.* [22-Jul-22 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Do you have the capacity to "break the bank" - keep throwing more up at 2.5k so nobody ever buys his and eventually he has all his capital tied up in unselling MHL? [22-Jul-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No but i’ll send another batch and just keep it under his [22-Jul-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looks like hes trying ot control the market on his own [22-Jul-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On many items [22-Jul-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: well good luck to him [22-Jul-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: He's providing a valuable service. Hes giving a seller and immediate sale and a reserve of last resort for many people (at a price that he determines people will still pay) [22-Jul-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I've burned him a few times, so I can be smug [22-Jul-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That would be easier to accept if I could sell the products to whoever I wanted, but with the LM restrictions that’s not possible [22-Jul-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: what's MHL? [22-Jul-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: ahh found it [22-Jul-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ludaduma**: hey all [22-Jul-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: It would be an interesting feature to be able to make a list of people who get a discount on your goods (eg. 10% off frequent customers) and a list of people who have to pay extra (+50% bad guy fee) [22-Jul-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Muertedeloto85** joined.* [22-Jul-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapitolGaming** left.* [22-Jul-22 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: still have 20 OVE cheap on the LM [22-Jul-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mysterious_ask2732** left.* [22-Jul-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking to buy 1 BRS [22-Jul-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuang_Eleven** joined.* [22-Jul-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Anyone have a shipment from Katoa to Benton Stn? I oopsed and missed someone's order there and need to hurry back. Leaving very soon for a fast trip. 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[23-Jul-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemony** joined.* [23-Jul-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doctor_Goat** left.* [23-Jul-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asaru** left.* [23-Jul-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vikn** joined.* [23-Jul-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***matt0817** left.* [23-Jul-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RatchetOrion** left.* [23-Jul-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Cold_Mace** joined.* [23-Jul-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowBrook** left.* [23-Jul-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***I-suck-At-Economy-Games** joined.* [23-Jul-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anybody need anything shipped to EW? [23-Jul-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: got 450 free [23-Jul-22 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have 2 LDE ? [23-Jul-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have 1 I can spare. Whats the rate today? [23-Jul-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 5200 at BEnton I will sell it that low, it been selling for a lot more [23-Jul-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: sounds good [23-Jul-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: post the buy and its yours [23-Jul-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: up, thank you [23-Jul-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Done [23-Jul-22 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am leaving Benton with a ship right now..there is one here at 5200 [23-Jul-22 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If you buy it I can bring it back in under a day for the shipping [23-Jul-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: alright picked it up but I also have a ship at benten [23-Jul-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: i already* [23-Jul-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok then cool [23-Jul-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: I appreciate it anyway [23-Jul-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: No problem. If I have something needed I almost always will sell it at the ask [24-Jul-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera19ccfbfbd** left.* [24-Jul-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I posted few small shipping ads from ben to kat. [24-Jul-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***exoplanet** joined.* [24-Jul-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: anyone sell glass ships in this system? [24-Jul-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Probably not, ship builders switched to FTL ships for the large part. However, you can generally source them with some patience and luck from the various exchanges [24-Jul-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can make your hull plates and structural components [24-Jul-22 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GEN are actually quite easy, but you need about four glass furnaces to get the process done in a timely manner [24-Jul-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap(ish) BHP on the LM [24-Jul-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb5d4f6484f** left.* [24-Jul-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Commander-AK** joined.* [24-Jul-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BluMarlow** joined.* [24-Jul-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user50672568a8** left.* [24-Jul-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EXPLANABLELNVERSE21** joined.* [24-Jul-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5a7e82ba1b** left.* [24-Jul-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EXPLANABLELNVERSE21** left.* [24-Jul-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EXPLANABLELNVERSE21** joined.* [24-Jul-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mathew.666carpio** joined.* [24-Jul-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anybody producing RCO? [24-Jul-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user515a905c44** left.* [24-Jul-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I use mine to make cotton and OVE [24-Jul-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You after a long term contract? [24-Jul-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: Maybe, for the same reasons obviously [24-Jul-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5515fca23e** left.* [24-Jul-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EXPLANABLELNVERSE21** left.* [24-Jul-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am going to STREAM my game on TWITCH. Join me Grandpa Canuck if you wanna watch, ask questions or critique my operation. [24-Jul-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would love to one time but in can’t be online for another 3 hours! (Sydney time) [24-Jul-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Another time NEKE. If people join and participate I may do this once a week. [24-Jul-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Next time! [24-Jul-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user51ce8c8ec0** left.* [24-Jul-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Link to stream? 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I think I need an explaination, what this statement means. [25-Jul-22 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I intermittently provide an update to junior manufacturers, tracking the cost of making one basic item, MCG [25-Jul-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That number assumes 100% market sourced consumables [25-Jul-22 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Based on the cost of DW, RAT, OVE, COF, PWO, having three experts, having purchased one shipload of LST and SIO in the correct ratio, and used 400 SF to get there and back, making about ~306 MCG in 24 hours and selling it at the middle of the bid/ask spread = 2,001.39 CIS per day per BMP [25-Jul-22 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Actually I have running MCG running in my little BMP. This means I will make maybe make around 2k CIS profit manufactuing day? [25-Jul-22 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It excludes two things, hull damage to the freighter, and the trip to take the MCG back to the CX [25-Jul-22 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I guess less, since I have 2 experts only [25-Jul-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I understand now. Thanks [25-Jul-22 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [25-Jul-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Anyone have 100-200 GAL for sale? BEN cx is almost empty :( [25-Jul-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: One boatload of materials (136 LST, 68 SIO), 5.56 days running the BMP, three flights using 200 SF each, and selling the resulting 1,700 MCG on the CX for 20/u = 10,161 CIS net profit over 5.56 days [25-Jul-22 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thank you :-) [25-Jul-22 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Looking for 1 BBH, ad at LM ;) [25-Jul-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ARCC** joined.* [25-Jul-22 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: thnx @marine307 [25-Jul-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: no prob wans sure i got you or someone else [25-Jul-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJ_Panncake** left.* [25-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Is it a bad bahavior to accept a deal which I cannot fullfill right now but in a few days (but within set time)? Or is it common to do so? [25-Jul-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How many days? [25-Jul-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RNGzero** joined.* [25-Jul-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's a bit a case of "depends". If you're selling an item, your buyer probably expects the item sooner rather than later. If you're buying an item, then within the time limit is usually accepted. Just remember that the default is 3 days, so people may not change it - but if they DO change it, then they probably mean that limit. [25-Jul-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I just saw a buy order for 300 MCG to be delivered within 5 days. My production still takes 1.5 days. So I considered if it might be ok to accept such a contract [25-Jul-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've just put MHL on the market with 10 day contracts, I'll deliver them within 24-36 hours, but I've deliberately extended the contract so people can pay up to 10 days later. [25-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If someone deliberately changed it to 5 days, they should expect non-instant delivery [25-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Especially if its just 36 hours [25-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Yes!!! I've made it in!! [25-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome! [25-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi RNGzero [25-Jul-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: been watching Katoa's ghost plots diminish for 2 weeks... and waited patiently for my chance [25-Jul-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap H2O.CI1 and MHL.CI1 on the LM. [25-Jul-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm late, all H2O is already sold? [25-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: welcome to the best planet in the galaxy @rngzero [25-Jul-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I think it's been a decent while since a non-starter base was placed here [25-Jul-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Marine307, Thank you! It certainly can be! [25-Jul-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: dont make ur workers work in those cheap OVE buy some padded ones on the LM today [25-Jul-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: (PWO on sale on the LM) [25-Jul-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LtDansMagicLegs** left.* [25-Jul-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Good idea! [25-Jul-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Can yoy write notes to yourself like as a to do list? [25-Jul-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: kinda- you can create a new com channel and invite only yourself [25-Jul-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Cool. Thanks! 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Planetary Projects :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [25-Jul-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: They are what provides the efficiency bonus to manufacture on Katoa [25-Jul-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It is chosen by popular vote [25-Jul-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: weekly [25-Jul-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: most vote's aren't close... but sometimes it can change depending on the governor or future plans. [25-Jul-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Montem's COGC changes quite often [25-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Flying from Umbra to Katoa in ~4-5 hours with ~250/250 free if anyone needs shipping. [25-Jul-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nippleslet** joined.* [25-Jul-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Have space for 300+ for Katoa to Benton STN under a day then onto Antares Stn some space. Contact me if want shipment [25-Jul-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eduardo09eduardo09** left.* [25-Jul-22 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***goto64** left.* [25-Jul-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***playmarkh** joined.* [25-Jul-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **playmarkh**: build a machine [25-Jul-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kurisu_Makise** joined.* [25-Jul-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jamespi** left.* [25-Jul-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AttilaTheHun**: Umbra -> Katoa departing in one hour [25-Jul-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***beatmaker** left.* [25-Jul-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jumbles** left.* [25-Jul-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***luismibaq** joined.* [25-Jul-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyon have any excess HCP they want to sell me on K [25-Jul-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: KAT? 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[26-Jul-22 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: When I get a chance I will drop the fee from 250 to 200 per week, so renting the full 2ktm3 would only cost 800 CIS/wk [26-Jul-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @Crackerjack685 can you stop literally flooding the LM [26-Jul-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If those are all arranged, do them in bulk or something [26-Jul-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if they're not arranged, literally no one is going to fill those prices :\ [26-Jul-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xensored** joined.* [26-Jul-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***minestreamer3** joined.* [26-Jul-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Travin** joined.* [26-Jul-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @karr1981 - I have messaged you. [26-Jul-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: replied [26-Jul-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redshock** left.* [26-Jul-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Does anyone need around 150t be shipped from Umbra to Benton Station? I will leave in 15 minutes [26-Jul-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: I could send some stuff [26-Jul-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ok [26-Jul-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: How much room and weight do you have free? [26-Jul-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: 179t / 170mΒ² [26-Jul-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: You have room for 88m3 / 148.5t? [26-Jul-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yes [26-Jul-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Ah ok, perfect, i'll post it in Umbra LM [26-Jul-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: What's your fee? [26-Jul-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hm... what is usual? [26-Jul-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: give me a moment [26-Jul-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: 600 [26-Jul-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Ok, i'll give you a bit of a premium :) [26-Jul-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Posted [26-Jul-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thank you :-) [26-Jul-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: otw [26-Jul-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UberGrunk**: Perfect, thank you :) [26-Jul-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braxis** left.* [26-Jul-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @DasRallum figure about 7cis per t/m3 [26-Jul-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HypenauticPulse** joined.* [26-Jul-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thanks for the tipp [26-Jul-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: but your calculation doesn't take the distance into account [26-Jul-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TV-94** joined.* [26-Jul-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capitainetim** left.* [26-Jul-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: how do i sell stuff on CXL? I have a ship that flew there with stuff in its cargo but it says i can unload due to no storage [26-Jul-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TV-94** left.* [26-Jul-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Open a buffer with the appropriate "Order Bok" and sell it [26-Jul-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: I think that is where I get confused. I have the order book open for the appropriate trading spot, but i cant unload to be able to sell the items, its like im missing an intermediate step [26-Jul-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: with the order book open to you see the command to click on ? the right most one [26-Jul-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: This opens a buffer with a PLACE ORDER screen [26-Jul-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: I am completely blind and missed that, thank you so much! [26-Jul-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Make sure in the yellow area marked STORAGE LOCATION you change it to your ship. Set the quantity and the price you want to sell at. then hit SELL [26-Jul-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: You are awesome! [26-Jul-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: I just realized I was not on the help channel either, sorry about that [26-Jul-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: this is what I get for trying to play while on a meeting [26-Jul-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: All ok. Many helpful people here will always help ya. [26-Jul-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Georgous** joined.* [26-Jul-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: you need to rent warehouse space on CX [26-Jul-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If you look for benten station warehouse, there is an option to rent 500mΒ³ [26-Jul-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aidenster** joined.* [26-Jul-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5abeb44463** left.* [26-Jul-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoosterNL** joined.* [26-Jul-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***demiguru** left.* [26-Jul-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: basic consumables are pricey right now. Glad I bought yesterday. [26-Jul-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: OVE especially [26-Jul-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: someone just bought all 3.800 of my remaining OVE [26-Jul-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I bought 1 month worth of all my needed supplies [26-Jul-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Made me feel so special. [26-Jul-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its a good feeling [26-Jul-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: it's such a good feeling to know your alive. It's such a happy feeling. [26-Jul-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Sorry got you confused with Mr. Rodgers. [26-Jul-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thelegend69** joined.* [26-Jul-22 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol [26-Jul-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Catshot89** left.* [26-Jul-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: COGC upkeep ads have been placed on the LM under the rating "F" for visibility. Please DO NOT donate directly to the COGC, as you'll leave me carrying stock I don't want. Please take the LM ads if you can deliver within 5 days. [26-Jul-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: @neke86 MCG add will be filled in 24 hrs [26-Jul-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks [26-Jul-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: PE is filled already [26-Jul-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: that shows me i need to move more of mt stock from prox lol [26-Jul-22 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah thanks for the PE too, moved it direct to the COGC rather than sit on it [26-Jul-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can fill these but I like to offer decent rates from govt coffers back to tax payers :) [26-Jul-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: finally going to have some buildings here in 2 1/2 hours xD [26-Jul-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: yeah anytime something for PE or MCG is needed for cogc just lemme know those are my 2 primary outputs [26-Jul-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: 4 ad's on LM for RAT my peeps are starting to starve [26-Jul-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fadedsliver** joined.* [26-Jul-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped from ben? [26-Jul-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got 450t free [27-Jul-22 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OUQUO** joined.* [27-Jul-22 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So whats up with H coming from CB-282D? No sell orders and no shipping orders. Has some sort of cartel to control prices been formed? [27-Jul-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: wow... 32.25 H/day at 100% efficiency... [27-Jul-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: one of the bases there has 99% area developed... so that means they have ~22 COLs on that base [27-Jul-22 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah.. likely a highly organized corp runs it. [27-Jul-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: check who is selling over 100k SF on CXs and you will know where all that H is going :) [27-Jul-22 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver94** joined.* [27-Jul-22 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will fly from Umbra to Benten Station in 5 hours. I will have a lot of space left. [27-Jul-22 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I just posted two small shipping ads for umbra->kat trip [27-Jul-22 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I just noticed that you want to go to ben, nevermind then :) [27-Jul-22 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will also go to kat later, maybe tomorrow.I will ask then again [27-Jul-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: There is no cartel in place. For transparency. I have a fully developed 500 area base on CB-282d with 22 COL and make about 1100 H per day. 700-800 H is immediately used for SF, FF and PG production per day. So not that much left for the CX since from time to time i also sell to other players in corp. If you are in need of H on Katoa, drop me a PM and we can work something out if i have the capacity. but ads for 55/u are just too low atm. [27-Jul-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Nice to have you comment. Thanks. [27-Jul-22 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you can also try to post ad for H directly at CB-282d. You can get it cheaper there but of course you will have to move it [27-Jul-22 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and I confirm that Nicster aka H Lord is the guy you want to contact when you need some H :) [27-Jul-22 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: XD [27-Jul-22 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My comment earlier was simply a query of why no more shipping orders of late and the noticing of the fact the price has jumped 20 over the last few weeks. Not a jab at anyone, just looking to see what changed. [27-Jul-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: dm'd ya @Nicster [27-Jul-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If anyone was offended I apologize. [27-Jul-22 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: hell i think it was a spot on assumption, i could see it happening just as the pirating was [27-Jul-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: my personal teory about H but also lack of GAL is that Hyperion just got back from vacations and now is refreshing his stockpiles of basic mats :) [27-Jul-22 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: yeah we lost a member of fowl, who just so happened to be our GAL person, [27-Jul-22 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: so theres another vaccuum [27-Jul-22 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yea, there is like no GAL at all on the market right now. Last couple of days I had to double my own GAL extraction since I coudn't buy it [27-Jul-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: price on cx skyrocket from 80-100 to 300 [27-Jul-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Weeks ago I closed my extractor as well, but had to put it back up. We all feeling the GAL situation [27-Jul-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: thats one reason im vaccuming up H and C for fabs we have someone able to fill the void its just a matter of fabs [27-Jul-22 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Great discussion. Now we all know the effects a major producer of an item has on us all. [27-Jul-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: yeah no kiddin [27-Jul-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Supply is not elastic, easily disrupted [27-Jul-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can bring in some expensive GAL from my CLI tap [27-Jul-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll leave an LM ad up, if anyone actully take it then I'll extract and ship it in [27-Jul-22 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: that is another problem with GAL, 2.5t per unit so it's expensive to ship anywhere [27-Jul-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: yeah that it is [27-Jul-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: cant wait for aug 3rd lol [27-Jul-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What's then? [27-Jul-22 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: the next update, ship upgrade system if im not mistaken [27-Jul-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nice, yeah I'm stocking SSC/BHP for the wave [27-Jul-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: i havent even began lol [27-Jul-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Am making 48 BHP per day [27-Jul-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: well i know who to hit up when i get ready for that lol [27-Jul-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap [27-Jul-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: come to me! [27-Jul-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I leave stuff on the CX at a premium [27-Jul-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but I'll sell here on the LM by order [27-Jul-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can't sell cheap on the CX becuase as soon as I do, scalper take it and re-list it higher [27-Jul-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: need anything off hand on prox? [27-Jul-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You about to fly PRX>KAT? [27-Jul-22 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: in about 6 hrs [27-Jul-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: ill have 200t open [27-Jul-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hm... is there a downside of placing a buy request on CX beside blocking your money? [27-Jul-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: only waiting time for someone to fill you order [27-Jul-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Ok. So it might be a good strategy to place a buy order and later cancel it if it is not fullfilled and you need the stuff soon. [27-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Another question. How much ship damage does 1 BHP repair? 2%? [27-Jul-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think 2.4 [27-Jul-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JTech** left.* [27-Jul-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 43 plates = 100% I think [27-Jul-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see. I just thought about, whether I need to consider ship damage with the transport cost. But it seems it's too small to be part of the calculation. [27-Jul-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's small cost for each trip but it adds up. Your ships will get to 80% condition faster then you think and paying 20k for 10BHP will be a nasty surprise [27-Jul-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yeah, I need to save up some money for this. [27-Jul-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and for some shippings runs it's not so small cost. For example trip to CB-282d and back to Katoa will be 0,63% od your ship hull so 500-600cis of BHP cost only [27-Jul-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Basically 0.3% dmg per trip between Katoa and the station is ~250 in repair costs [27-Jul-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @neke86 where do you store this quantity of BHP :-D [27-Jul-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: my ementior base is overflowing with hull plates :-D [27-Jul-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Ah I just realize I did a little mistake. Actually I need to add it to the calculation. [27-Jul-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: mcg filled @neke86 [27-Jul-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thanks! [27-Jul-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I sell them @Nicster [27-Jul-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can barely keep up lol [27-Jul-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxoux** joined.* [27-Jul-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: should i help you out a bit? [27-Jul-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah bring it in the CX always needs it [27-Jul-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If I want to offer MCG on the LM. what bulk size does make sense? [27-Jul-22 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: 2x450? [27-Jul-22 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: people will take anything at the right price :D [27-Jul-22 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hehe ok. So I hope the price will be ok. Since I am still struggeling with the start, I cannot offer it very cheap. XD [27-Jul-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Somehow I still need to figure out how to calculate my production costs. It seems like a complicated calculation. [27-Jul-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Shouldn't be too hard [27-Jul-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: figure out your cost of labour [27-Jul-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ingredients [27-Jul-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: building repairs [27-Jul-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: those are the main ones [27-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: welcome to excel world :D [27-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Is there a conter that shows how much dmg a building get per working hour? [27-Jul-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: XD hehehe [27-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're buying all your inputs, your BMP is costing ~850-900 per 24h [27-Jul-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: say ~36/hr [27-Jul-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: add another 5/hr for the repairs [27-Jul-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: round it to 40/hr for the sake of sanity [27-Jul-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if you paid 60 for LST and 50 for SIO [27-Jul-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I already calculated arround 1000 per day for RAt, DW and OVE o.O [27-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: but I took the CX prizes [27-Jul-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (60 * 4) + (50 * 2) + (6hrs * 40) = 580 / 50 MCG = 11.6 eacj [27-Jul-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: So without repair ended up with 2720 cost for 200MCG per day. [27-Jul-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: still fine [27-Jul-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But maybe I calculated to pessimistic [27-Jul-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 13.6/u [27-Jul-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: let's see [27-Jul-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: thank you :-) [27-Jul-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: as your expert go up [27-Jul-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the production time comes down [27-Jul-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: more MCG per day etc [27-Jul-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I also just realised there is a base Upgrade I could by, which gives 1.7% additional efficiency. Is it worth to purchase it? Or are there negative side effect, as increased repair costs? [27-Jul-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not worth it for just that [27-Jul-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: buy [27-Jul-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but eventually you'll want to expand and need it [27-Jul-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [27-Jul-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will fly von Umbra to Benten Station in 30 min. I still have 100t left. [27-Jul-22 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schlaumeier22** joined.* [27-Jul-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sorrack** left.* [27-Jul-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Silver94**: is it normal for my ship to take almost an entire day to fly to a station in the same system?? [27-Jul-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it depends on how much fuel you use [27-Jul-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Also the postion of the 2 locations relative to each other. As they rotate around the sun the distance changes so it is not consistant travel time for a given amount of fuel. [27-Jul-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Silver94**: okay cool thanks. def gonna take a minute to figure this "game" out [27-Jul-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: the position is pretty good at the moment. e.g with ~180 SF fuel you should be able to cut it down to 8h [27-Jul-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: This game required a lot of calculations so if you enjoy math, spreadsheets and logistical problems---you gonna have a great time! [27-Jul-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I didn't realize, that you can change the fuel consumption. I thought this traveltime is normal. o.O [27-Jul-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Now you know.. and knowing is half the battle. [27-Jul-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: unless you want to use generational ships of course [27-Jul-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LoneDoIT** joined.* [27-Jul-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hagenberg** left.* [27-Jul-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: As long as you have the materials you can have more than one base right? [27-Jul-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yes [27-Jul-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: but currrently only one per planet [27-Jul-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: No thats cool. I am learning there is more money is supplying the materials to make fuel then there is in the actual fuel. lol [27-Jul-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: cool, finding a niche is a great start, then expand from there [27-Jul-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Prefabs is where it is at. I should of started there. lol [27-Jul-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aidz1** joined.* [27-Jul-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wozzie** left.* [27-Jul-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HidSquid** joined.* [27-Jul-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MightyJackson** joined.* [27-Jul-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aralito99** left.* [27-Jul-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: How do you guys handle the needs of your population when just starting out? Setting up the entire chain or by purchasing them or somewhere in the middle? [27-Jul-22 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: purchasing; unless you've started as victualler or manufacturer, then you can covert that part yourself obviously [27-Jul-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I think each player makes different choices. Some make all their own needs. Some buy it all as much in bulk as possible. Some Only provide essential items. You need to find what worls for you I think. [27-Jul-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rebelepik**: thanks guys, i again forgot i was not in the help channel lol [27-Jul-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I think several help questions are better answered by players on the same planet as you. So this is often the right place to ask for help. [27-Jul-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @rebelepik, if you are just starting out, you could sell some excess fuel to afford supplies or another building. Generally players try to have 5-7 days of consumables stocked so they can send a ship every 5 days and make it back before things run out [27-Jul-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apolmas** left.* [27-Jul-22 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HarshTarsier290** joined.* [27-Jul-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***somethingmorelogical** joined.* [27-Jul-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Latro** joined.* [27-Jul-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dulloils** left.* [27-Jul-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** joined.* [28-Jul-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Can it be, that the planet movement is not included in the travel time calculation? My real traveltime sometimes differs from the estimated at start. [28-Jul-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaptainKasoy** left.* [28-Jul-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **whip616**: always play with your slider, 'ie' click on it in the same spot a few times,you are likely to find a better flight time, [28-Jul-22 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **whip616**: i think planet movement is calculated, as for changing when you hit start ill have to pay more attn to that and see if i see it i have never noticed it [28-Jul-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: fire your navigator... out of the airlock ;) [28-Jul-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: XD [28-Jul-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Janikpease** joined.* [28-Jul-22 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: or problem is caused by weak fuel. You should buy my special premium FF, only 19.99 :p [28-Jul-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: "Sir, I'm sorry, I didn't see there was a minus in the calculation. We ended up at Yannick instead of Benten Station. But on the bright side, I heard it's a nice place for vacation." [28-Jul-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or strap him to the hull outside, with enough oxygen for the calculated trip time... :> [28-Jul-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: lol [28-Jul-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: @ Kaese [28-Jul-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: @Kaese [28-Jul-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirDiu** joined.* [28-Jul-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonJoin** joined.* [28-Jul-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone flying to ementior? 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[29-Jul-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eel_Scientist** joined.* [29-Jul-22 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: @Grandpa_Canuck 2 ads at LM ;) [29-Jul-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to EW? Got to pick up some product but have 500t free headed there [29-Jul-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: anyone has CLI at UV-072c, buy ad at LM ;) [29-Jul-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: If anyone needs anything shipped from ANT then it's just to msg me, got a empty freighter there. [29-Jul-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Flying Katoa to Umbra, Starting in 15 minutes. [29-Jul-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Is there a possibilities to activate auto-delivery on arrival, in case my ships arrives while I am sleeping? [29-Jul-22 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If youi have PRO, yes [29-Jul-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I have PRO atm [29-Jul-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: On the flight screen of the ship when you're makign the route... there is a toggle for unload on arrival [29-Jul-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It'll only work if your base has enough room for the cargo [29-Jul-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Ah... somehow I've overseen it. thx [29-Jul-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: anythign else I can assist with? [29-Jul-22 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: This will automatically fullfill contracts, correct? [29-Jul-22 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I've been planning my Katoa operation out for a while... and just decided on what I'll do [29-Jul-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @DasRallum, for contracts... I don't believe so (I'm not PRO) [29-Jul-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that requires an attempt to fulfill [29-Jul-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hm... but this the the important. for myself I don't care whether it arrives while sleeping. but to fullfill the contract on time it might be important [29-Jul-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you have any doubts, just send the other party a message about what is going on [29-Jul-22 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: They want the stuff just as much as you want to deliver them [29-Jul-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I realized, that the people are friendly here, especially to newvies like me. But I still don't want to let them wait too long XD [29-Jul-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: which is why communication is so important. It's in both parties interest that this goes through.. and they're likely to make it work regardless [29-Jul-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: So what you will do, if I may ask? You said you've planned your operation. Or is this a company secret? [29-Jul-22 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Katoa is my 3rd base within 90 days of play... I'm quite honestly scared to get into low level manufacturing [29-Jul-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm willing to bet there are bases on Katoa made entirely of Hab1s and BMPs... and I don't want to compete vs that [29-Jul-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: so I've decided on doing some Tech level manufacturing [29-Jul-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see. Sounds like a good idea, from my newbie point of view [29-Jul-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the recipe is a pain in the rear... but I've talked to a couple other players and I believe I can make it work with some Refineries on the side [29-Jul-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If it doesn;t go as well as expected... at least I'll be producing STL fuel xD [29-Jul-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hm... I guess you'll need to import a lot of the needed electronics from the recipes? [29-Jul-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah, may ships visit Ant frequently already.. and I have a base on Deimos that does a bit of that on the side [29-Jul-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: so it'll work out a bit easier utlizing soem of that space over there [29-Jul-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: PP2s are making the required B & L pre-fabs and it should come together sometime mid next week [29-Jul-22 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Oh wow... I'm glad I was able to snag a Katoa plot... it's back up to +5 ghost plots [29-Jul-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: same here. had a base kit lying around for a month to get a plot. Now I have a base but without any buildings :) [29-Jul-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Yeah... I already realized that the planet is full blue, which means there is no aviable base spot, right? [29-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @xensored, I did that same on Monday [29-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: So maybe I am lucky that I did get a spot, when I started the game [29-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: begginer players can place their 1st plot anywhere [29-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that is why there are +5 more plots than avalibale space [29-Jul-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: even if the planat is full? [29-Jul-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes [29-Jul-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [29-Jul-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: which is why Promitor had 500+ ghost plots [29-Jul-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: has* [29-Jul-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah, this means it's overgrowded at the moment? [29-Jul-22 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that is why it's difficult for players with bases already to get on starter planets [29-Jul-22 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes [29-Jul-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I would say xensored, myself, and likely 1-2 others are lucky to have snagged one during a very brief window [29-Jul-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: but since I do have a plot now... I've ordered a STL ship for this system [29-Jul-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: since I'll pickup an Umbra base as well [29-Jul-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: those are my short-term plans.. anything else you'd liek to know? [29-Jul-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tirandus** left.* [29-Jul-22 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: No. I am still learning about the game. I am happy already if I could produce anything for a little profit or if I could make a profitable delivery run. XD [29-Jul-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: So it will take some time until I understand everything. [29-Jul-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Lots to learn; so ask as many questions as you can! [29-Jul-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I have already an idea, where I want to create a second base. But I guess I am still far away from it. [29-Jul-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: never hurts to get some advice/help on your options [29-Jul-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I realize that planets with liquid water and therefore fertile soil are rare of course. Is it effective to produce your own food, if you can, even if it's not your expertise? Or are there enough farmers, so that it is just better to buy it? [29-Jul-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It depend what you'll do with it [29-Jul-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: a planet's fertility is less important than it's H2O availability [29-Jul-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: in regards to growing crops* [29-Jul-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: So you can grow crops even on planets with no fertility, if there is water maybe in form of gas or ice? [29-Jul-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: on Proxion.. I only do RCO because that is very H2O efficient compared to other crops [29-Jul-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [29-Jul-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes, that is what players do on eitherwind for COF and other hydroponics plants [29-Jul-22 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah. Yes I saw etherwind on map already. that caused my question [29-Jul-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you want an agriculture base close to Ben... check out Nemsis [29-Jul-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: It's not about Ben. I just think, if I want to have a second base one day, I need to supply it with RAT and DW [29-Jul-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Proxion is a good choice as well... but has more options for chemistry [29-Jul-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: btw I just improve my APEX design and made a communication screen. I started with Global and Katoa Comm. Are there other useful puplic com channels, like one for Benten System? [29-Jul-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Katoa is the most active planet chat I've seen in-game [29-Jul-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: What is this United Factions Operations? I guess it's for more sttled in players, is it? [29-Jul-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: on my main dash... I have the communication (COM) menu up.. so the channels flash when new posts are there [29-Jul-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hm... but I am not very interested in the global chat atm. it's falshing quite often [29-Jul-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: The UFO server is for players that want more out of their gameing experience on PrUn [29-Jul-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: many corps recruit, discuss trade, and plan stuff there [29-Jul-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I found a company to build my STL ship there... which was very helpful! [29-Jul-22 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone got any H they could sell on LM? [29-Jul-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: how much do you need karr? I can spare some of my stock if its emergency [29-Jul-22 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but I don't have much surplus since my fuel ref are eating a lot [29-Jul-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I saw the question of auto delivery and i am not sure if it was already answered, so i will. Auto unload does NOT fulfill contracts. It just unloads into your inventory if there is space. To fulfill a contract you still need to push the button in the contract. [29-Jul-22 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thank you [29-Jul-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Tof_** left.* [29-Jul-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I want to buy large amounts of GAL, please DM me [29-Jul-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: and with large I mean at least 1000 [29-Jul-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***468984027** joined.* [29-Jul-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone got 2 BMF on hand? [29-Jul-22 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: what do you need them for neke i have 2 and depends if u need them perminatly [29-Jul-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes I'd need them permanently haha [29-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Emergency MCG buy on the LM [29-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 68 units, 3,000 CIS [29-Jul-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: what do you plan to do with those bmf? bitcoin mine? :p [29-Jul-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Expand a very nasty planet so I can extract more CLI, LST, and GAL :) [29-Jul-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If I can get the MCG I fly tonight, the BMF upgrade the final part of the HQ [29-Jul-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I have 49 MCG only. But maybe someone has the missing 19. [29-Jul-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: somebody somewhere has 68 MCG [29-Jul-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: oh,s ide note, if I dont get any GAL I wont be able to sell SF [29-Jul-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is no GAL on market for about a week now [29-Jul-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sevak** joined.* [29-Jul-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I have over 100 MCG sitting around. Just put down a buy order in LM. [29-Jul-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: There was a buy order. It's already fullfilled I think. [29-Jul-22 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nusoos** left.* [29-Jul-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheTheoRex** joined.* [29-Jul-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @rasd I've got 100 units of GAL, if you want to throw up an ad [29-Jul-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hamidaziz** left.* [29-Jul-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrBu** left.* [29-Jul-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadBurns** left.* [29-Jul-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Prices on the LM have been all over the place recently [29-Jul-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RestfulAtol** joined.* [29-Jul-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leadcask** left.* [29-Jul-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rionan** joined.* [29-Jul-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paulo_Henrique_P_Moura** joined.* [29-Jul-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SIres** left.* [29-Jul-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mecatius** joined.* [29-Jul-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LightningLava78** joined.* [29-Jul-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apollo12Ol** joined.* [29-Jul-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lamppost982** joined.* [29-Jul-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Local_Failure** left.* [29-Jul-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BonniexLancerDsergal** left.* [29-Jul-22 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WNPC** left.* [29-Jul-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Making money in the beginning is hard. [29-Jul-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Things are a bit slow until you've fleshed out your base [29-Jul-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raoulin** joined.* [29-Jul-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoonCorp** joined.* [29-Jul-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ogizzle** joined.* [29-Jul-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [29-Jul-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [30-Jul-22 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 on katoa can sell some H please? [30-Jul-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***00daytrading00** joined.* [30-Jul-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NonExisting** joined.* [30-Jul-22 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NonExisting** left.* [30-Jul-22 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NonExisting** joined.* [30-Jul-22 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***something_whole** left.* [30-Jul-22 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cpt.Socke** left.* [30-Jul-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: The PAR has been upgraded and stocked for six weeks. All other infrastructure is stocked for 30 days again (the maximum). [30-Jul-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm eyeing off another Comfort/Culture upgrade to bolster those two stats. Safety and Health are still well in the green-zone, especially with the population reducing a bit and a healthy unemployment buffer in place (the target is 10%) [30-Jul-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ealius** joined.* [30-Jul-22 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Salio** left.* [30-Jul-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TanRT92** left.* [30-Jul-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deliriouspsycho2** joined.* [30-Jul-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harrisonbobo** joined.* [30-Jul-22 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: So something like the Art CafΓ©? I still don't have much, but if I can I will contribute a little bit too next time. [30-Jul-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Does anyone have 40 HE-3 I can buy? [30-Jul-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Willing to pay 85000 cis [30-Jul-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @smitty i have some he3. Ad is on LM [30-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: lol ... 40 HE3 costs are 8-9k on CX [30-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: And not 80k [30-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: OH NO I put the wrong ammount 8k not 80 k [30-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am sorry [30-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I got 0 happy [30-Jul-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I'm sorry [30-Jul-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: let it fall on non payment from me [30-Jul-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: surprised no one else jumped on 80k LOL [30-Jul-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: 80k for 40 HE would be ridiculous ;) [30-Jul-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah I am not that rich [30-Jul-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: can I buy it for 8,500? [30-Jul-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: lol [30-Jul-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: make up for the posting price. [30-Jul-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** left.* [30-Jul-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** joined.* [30-Jul-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Game_Addict** joined.* [30-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** left.* [30-Jul-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** joined.* [30-Jul-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Game_Addict** left.* [30-Jul-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Game_Addict** joined.* [30-Jul-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes, something like the art cafe @DasRallum but will wait for now, no need to donate. Might be easier to do another of what we have [30-Jul-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: simpler upkeep then and easier to build [30-Jul-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone sellign any HCP? [30-Jul-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: not HCP, but I could sell some GRN [30-Jul-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [30-Jul-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yw [30-Jul-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LacSlyer** joined.* [30-Jul-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeGalerien** joined.* [30-Jul-22 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LacSlyer** left.* [30-Jul-22 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LacSlyer** joined.* [30-Jul-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mildnetic** left.* [30-Jul-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST posted to LM UV-072c [31-Jul-22 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Game_Addict** left.* [31-Jul-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmallKittyPaws** joined.* [31-Jul-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thsyrus** joined.* [31-Jul-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Machi** joined.* [31-Jul-22 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Muertedeloto85** left.* [31-Jul-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xenith** left.* [31-Jul-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zorz** left.* [31-Jul-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SurealAlucard** joined.* [31-Jul-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userff323f556c** left.* [31-Jul-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sold already? [31-Jul-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Never mind. Mixed up my am and pm. [31-Jul-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArclightAZ** joined.* [31-Jul-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SOLDAT28a** joined.* [31-Jul-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I'm buying 1 BBH @2000 on LM. Messed up timing on production. My mistake is your gain. [31-Jul-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: filled, thanks [31-Jul-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped from Ben? Got 180t free [31-Jul-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I will be STREAMING on TWITCH shortly. Come join in for Q&A, discussions or critique my setup. Look for Grandpa Canuck on TWITCH. [31-Jul-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Live within 5 minutes. [31-Jul-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: HI MUM, IM ON TWITCH! :-) [31-Jul-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Last call for Ben>Katoa [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: how much free ben-katoa? [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much space Joe? [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: lol [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: :) [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: jinx [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: 180 [31-Jul-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: mine isn't urgent, so you can have the space @karr [31-Jul-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i cna fill it with H2O, let me know how much you want and ill put up ship ad [31-Jul-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: 500 cis? [31-Jul-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty, ad up on kat lm [31-Jul-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: got it! [31-Jul-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etothepi** joined.* [31-Jul-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: jesus how do you play with so small buffers [31-Jul-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I see [31-Jul-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: KCC is recruuting C producers, drop me a DM to discuss [31-Jul-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: Hey guys! [31-Jul-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: I'm new here [31-Jul-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Hi, welcome. :-) [31-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there! [31-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Glad to have you. Any questions ask us. Many helpful players here. [31-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: will do [31-Jul-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: it's pretty complicated! [31-Jul-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ya, hope you like math and spreadsheets. [31-Jul-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: following along with the handbook can be veyr helpful: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/apex-overview/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/apex-overview/ 1. APEX overview :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [31-Jul-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: yeah I'm doing that! [31-Jul-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fry2000**: what are you producing? [31-Jul-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: Right now PE and O [31-Jul-22 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: and C [31-Jul-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fry2000**: not bad, though don't diversify too much at the very beginning. good luck! [31-Jul-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: thanks! [31-Jul-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: I have 400/400 free place on a ship from ben to kat if anybody needs it. Leaving in 30 min. Delivery tomorrow. [31-Jul-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: @Hermanek shipment ad at BEN LM [31-Jul-22 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Floretta** joined.* [31-Jul-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got two ships getting ready to leave Katoa. One is bound to EW and has 450t free. The other is headed to Umbra with 160t free [31-Jul-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XX_MYHTIX_XX** joined.* [31-Jul-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Cold_Mace** left.* [31-Jul-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone got 10 BBH? Have an ad up on the LM for 15k cis [31-Jul-22 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MikeNapss** joined.* [31-Jul-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IcarusRenatus** joined.* [31-Jul-22 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***I-suck-At-Economy-Games** left.* [01-Aug-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draz0000** joined.* [01-Aug-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***madgrinch109** joined.* [01-Aug-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***exoplanet** left.* [01-Aug-22 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thsyrus** left.* [01-Aug-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SerAri** left.* [01-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Have a ship ready to leave Katoa to Benten Station - have around 300t & 400mΒ³ free. But I am a noob, so you will have to tell me where to click ;) [01-Aug-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Would leave in ~ 30 mins [01-Aug-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AndrixKing23** joined.* [01-Aug-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Commander-AK** left.* [01-Aug-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: still there? [01-Aug-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I could send around 100t over to BEN [01-Aug-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: ADs are up [01-Aug-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MCSTIE** deleted this message.* [01-Aug-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: ok np ... isn't urgent. Someone will take it for sure [01-Aug-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: ok (y) [01-Aug-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soapbox** joined.* [01-Aug-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soapbox** left.* [01-Aug-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loco_tazz** joined.* [01-Aug-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BluMarlow** left.* [01-Aug-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RealTaxPayer** joined.* [01-Aug-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: 470 mΒ³ leaving Benten station to Katoa, ready to go any time [01-Aug-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: disregard [01-Aug-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: Man all I can really make rn is PE [01-Aug-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: what do you mean? [01-Aug-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: that's all I have the materials for right now lol [01-Aug-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sounds like a manufacteror start [01-Aug-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: bingol [01-Aug-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: bingo [01-Aug-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: when you're grabbing stuff at the CX, see what recipes you can make [01-Aug-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: yeah got some useful stuff [01-Aug-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: may want to sell some fuels for more money for a building or stockpiles [01-Aug-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etothepi** deleted this message.* [01-Aug-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: there's an idea [01-Aug-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: new players get a lot of fuel... so selling a good bit works out [01-Aug-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: this game is a slow start for everyone, me too. But I believe it will get better. :-) [01-Aug-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Katoa is a great starting planet [01-Aug-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can get into fuel production or manufacturing easily [01-Aug-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: actually it seems so, since you can get easily all needed stuff here to survive. [01-Aug-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: that's my hope [01-Aug-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: but still the start is slow. XD [01-Aug-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: trying to be self sufficient is really tough (and not very profitable)... I just do what I don't want to pay for [01-Aug-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Trying to be self sufficient too early will leave you with a large diverse base that produces a small amount of one thing [01-Aug-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I think there is no need to be self sufficient here most of the time. But most actions takes days until finished. So the start is like logging in every 2-3 days to make a few clicks... and then wait again for 2-3 days [01-Aug-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: unless you’re farming [01-Aug-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But it seems like to get better already after one month :-) [01-Aug-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: if you are active, you can grow pretty fast! [01-Aug-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 4-12 weeks [01-Aug-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Just always use one of your starter ships for shipping contracts [01-Aug-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: search FIO for the best contracts available [01-Aug-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: FIO? [01-Aug-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ Community Resources :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [01-Aug-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: under tools [01-Aug-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: FIO has a shipment finder under https://fio.fnar.net/shipmentfinder [01-Aug-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Select "all" in the search box insert * and search ... after that sort by payout [01-Aug-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see. Actually I did some good contracts here in benten. But of course there is some luck needed. Actually there are good contracts and Benten Station. [01-Aug-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But unfortunately my ship is still one day away [01-Aug-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LM UV-072c is back in business! 4 * 183 LST sell ads, cheap. [01-Aug-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: At the moment good contract have a payout between 12-15k [01-Aug-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: thanks for the tip. I will take a look. [01-Aug-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etothepi** deleted this message.* [01-Aug-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etothepi** deleted this message.* [01-Aug-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: didn't realize someone would actually sell me the herbs... [01-Aug-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bmarinov**: hey all. any1 can sell 30/40 FTL on Nemesis? got stuck here [01-Aug-22 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bmarinov**: any1 can help? [01-Aug-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm not sure how many players here have bases on Nemesis [01-Aug-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: you may want to ask in help or global in general [01-Aug-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: seems like @bmarinov received the fuel [01-Aug-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MamaGoose** joined.* [01-Aug-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: lots of waiting... [01-Aug-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: start building your spreadsheets and base planning :D [01-Aug-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: lol [01-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: my ships are *almost* there [01-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sevak**: would probably be noob friendly if they start you off with trade missions or something like that to give them something to do [01-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: that would be nice [01-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: oh well [01-Aug-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: bought some important materials [01-Aug-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: should be able to set up an extractor soon [01-Aug-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: A good exercise to early is calculate the travel times and costs [01-Aug-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: understand how travel time decreases with fuel usage [01-Aug-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: yeah that's huge [01-Aug-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so you can compare hours spent flying vs fuel costs vs cargo value [01-Aug-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: Should I keep my production queues full? [01-Aug-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: for my collector, at least [01-Aug-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: use x1 recipe batches... going above that isn;t goign to work out well for you [01-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: for the collector, just make it recurring [01-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: Oh I didn't even notice the order size option [01-Aug-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: ok so I have AMM and O recurring [01-Aug-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: should I incinerate all my starting HCP? [01-Aug-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: what's your business? do you actually need both O and AMM? [01-Aug-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you have an incinerator, yes [01-Aug-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: manufacturing [01-Aug-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there's not much use for O or AMM in t1 manufacturing. consider scrapping it, unless you're making fuel or running a smelter [01-Aug-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etothepi** deleted this message.* [01-Aug-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're in manufaturing scrap the COL [01-Aug-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Its terrible guidance based on Hydrogen being available, which it isnt [01-Aug-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: ah I see [01-Aug-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: demolished [01-Aug-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: take some time to familiarize yourself with the recipes available in pioneer or settler buildings, it really helps in the long run [01-Aug-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: yeah I'm beginning to see the tree now [01-Aug-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: trees [01-Aug-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: if you like trees, look here ;) [01-Aug-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: https://prosper.run/production-chains/OVE/1 {Embed} https://prosper.run/production-chains/OVE/1 Prosper: Production Chain Viewer Production chain viewer for Prosperous Universe [01-Aug-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: neat [01-Aug-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: ah but Umbra has hydrogen! [01-Aug-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: that's helpful! [01-Aug-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: can't get a base there yet though [01-Aug-22 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I did the same mistakes and build and extractor as manufacturer. [01-Aug-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Actually an extractor is nor bad. But it doesn't help much with manufacturing something [01-Aug-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: it but it can be some side income [01-Aug-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in MHL.CI1 @ 2,200 ea? [01-Aug-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobManSvK** joined.* [01-Aug-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: If you take AIC for payment --- yes I would take some MHL ;) [01-Aug-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: Anyone have GAL for sale in Katoa? I have SF as payment.. [01-Aug-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ah AIC, that don’t spend round these parts [01-Aug-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KitRedgrave** joined.* [01-Aug-22 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moe.** joined.* [02-Aug-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toor** left.* [02-Aug-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mobiuzz** joined.* [02-Aug-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***heehee46** joined.* [02-Aug-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pelocho44** joined.* [02-Aug-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lowkey11** left.* [02-Aug-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MasterChaotics** joined.* [02-Aug-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes, the blueprint screen (new buffer -> BLU) [02-Aug-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: thx [02-Aug-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***warhog** joined.* [02-Aug-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: Anyone have 5 COF ? [02-Aug-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: yes [02-Aug-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: Contract is up on LM [02-Aug-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DasRallum** deleted this message.* [02-Aug-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chariot** joined.* [02-Aug-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: done [02-Aug-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere33bf52790** left.* [02-Aug-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zeetu** joined.* [02-Aug-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: hello [02-Aug-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zeetu** left.* [02-Aug-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hit here [02-Aug-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hi there* [02-Aug-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: how's it going? [02-Aug-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: doing well, getting stuff built [02-Aug-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: niec [02-Aug-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: nice [02-Aug-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: still figuring stuff out [02-Aug-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: all good, just ask if you have questions or need advise [02-Aug-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zeetu** joined.* [02-Aug-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sylektis7** joined.* [02-Aug-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: will do [02-Aug-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: churning out more PE and hoping to get a base on Umbra to extract H [02-Aug-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: or should I just buy H? [02-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You have to consider the cost of getting the H and transporting it vs the ease of buying. for every player that choice is different. [02-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: hmmm I see [02-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: volume timing and worker needs all are considerations. [02-Aug-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ask 3 people and ya will likely get 5 answers. [02-Aug-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: checks out [02-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So as for H. Players do both..just buy and provide their own. [02-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: the real question is why we can't make H from H20 [02-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: like, that's basic chemistry [02-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: lol yes I agree. [02-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: oh well [02-Aug-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: would be nice, but recipes and buildings would likely need changes with it [02-Aug-22 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: anyone remember AstroEmpires? This is like that, but on steroids. [02-Aug-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Hey if Matt Damon could separate H from H20 with his poop potatoes on mars, I think we can handle it here lol [02-Aug-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It would require a huge amount of energy and time, energy isn’t in the game at all [02-Aug-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: all we need is like some batteries [02-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: to extract hydrogen by the ton? [02-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: big batteries [02-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: or electrodes [02-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: admittedly batteries are in the game [02-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I'd prefer a hydro-electric dam so the water is right there already. [02-Aug-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It doesn’t exactly matter though, if they introduce electrolysis everyone will have it, you’ll have cheap H, fuel becomes cheaper, plastics, you make less profit because everyone can do it cheaply together [02-Aug-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: find yourself in the same boat except constantly needing to find batteries, copper, etc [02-Aug-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: that's true [02-Aug-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: agreed. Having electrolysis would be a big game balance change. i am sure the devs looked at it in early game creation. [02-Aug-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: there are a lot of things missing or that don’t quite make sense if you look closely :D [02-Aug-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well, games can't be 100 percent realistic and still be balanced for fun [02-Aug-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you’re looking to upgrade ships in the coming future and wish to purchase SSC, drop me a line. I’ll be selling them for 250. I had listed 700 in advance of the update but they were just bought and re-listed by a scalper. Don’t pay 450/u, I can easily service what you need for upgrades. [02-Aug-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah... players are speculating about ship upgrades... saw a 400k bid for an MCB the other day [02-Aug-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorgiCamando** joined.* [02-Aug-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***luismibaq** left.* [02-Aug-22 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: this game is like if a bloomberg terminal ate eve online and i kinda love it [02-Aug-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: all the best parts of eve right here! [02-Aug-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: also adhd hack for early game i stumbled into... start as a fuel refiner, use it to subsidize flying *everywhere* [02-Aug-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yup, just trade between CXs [02-Aug-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: yup. now i want more ships, but 'spensive. [02-Aug-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah, FTL ships are expensive... STL ships are ~500-600k [02-Aug-22 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: at that point worth taking the time to build a lot of it yourself. and oops now that's a busiiness plan [02-Aug-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: many players do SF on Katoa... market is soo large [02-Aug-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: there's a whole world to exploit. was there a reset lately? [02-Aug-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: no reset... this universe has been going for 515+ days [02-Aug-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: no reset in sight as well [02-Aug-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: ah okay. just a *very* marathon game [02-Aug-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: the economy is so, so hosed rn for settlers [02-Aug-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nwingrovekamphorst** joined.* [02-Aug-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: settler economy seems fine [02-Aug-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: huh. maybe i was lookin in the wrong place/time? [02-Aug-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: plenty of money to be made out there [02-Aug-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: oh, yeah. like. you'd kinda have to make the consumables yourself just to sustain it long term [02-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: players don;t have to make their own consumables... it helps reduce expenses... but not manditory [02-Aug-22 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: yeah. i'm just sayin', right now the numbers point that way imo [02-Aug-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheLoneWolfAlex12** joined.* [02-Aug-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Have 120 space left for shipments. Leaving Benton STN within 30 min for Katoa. [02-Aug-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nejc112** left.* [02-Aug-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***liki1** left.* [02-Aug-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Super_Yoplait** left.* [02-Aug-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lina.** joined.* [02-Aug-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thiodolfr** joined.* [03-Aug-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd58570b061** left.* [03-Aug-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackSurimi** left.* [03-Aug-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soapbox** joined.* [03-Aug-22 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want to shed light on the H.CI1 price? There's no way we're consuming more than CB-282d can export surely? [03-Aug-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there are a lot more ppl that produce fuel because of high price? [03-Aug-22 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I can shed some light on this. We recently increased fuel production on Katoa massively and 70% of my stock goes into my own production. the rest is sold in corp or under the hand. Not much H from me on the CX. I am considering increasing capacity on the GG. [03-Aug-22 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Also i increased PG production as well. [03-Aug-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Fair enough, I’m not seeing anything from the other major producers either, likely similar story or maybe inactivity [03-Aug-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Is there an ingame clock somewhere? [03-Aug-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no [03-Aug-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: time stamps on chat? [03-Aug-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: your phone? [03-Aug-22 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: INS shortage makes it hard to build up GG. But we are working on an INS supply chain. [03-Aug-22 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hm... since all players of this game can be in different time zone, it's always good to have a valid ingame time that counts for all. [03-Aug-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: But I guess it's not implantet yet [03-Aug-22 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***marine307** deleted this message.* [03-Aug-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Can I see somewhere how much, for example basic overalls, were used in the last X days? [03-Aug-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I only know that you can see how much you actually need per day. [03-Aug-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurealAlucard**: Is there an automated way of pulling bid/ask prices from certain exchanges? [03-Aug-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Yes [03-Aug-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: FIO does that through an Add-on, you need to be using browser version [03-Aug-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurealAlucard**: oh cool, I assume you can import said list into excel through some form of API? 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[03-Aug-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: you'll want to transport to the exchange [03-Aug-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zeetu**: thank you [03-Aug-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: just keep your fuel expense low [03-Aug-22 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: I really gotta keep notes. Sent my ship to Umbra yesterday but can't recall why [03-Aug-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: nvm I remembered [03-Aug-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: they have good mac n' cheese? [03-Aug-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: exactly [03-Aug-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: nailed it [03-Aug-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Are the personal contracts now working? [03-Aug-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes, use CONTD to open that menu [03-Aug-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: OK done that but how do you send it to someone? I can't seem to enter that. [03-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: create new.. view... insert terms... recipient at bottem... send [03-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: once youve filled it in, should be space at bottom for receipient name [03-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: they'll need to review it and accept the terms [03-Aug-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I see the boxes but I can't seem to get the SEND button activated. [03-Aug-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: if yo uwant to practice Grandpa feel free ot send me a 1CIS contract [03-Aug-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: have you saved the first 2 sections? and filled in the prices and bits [03-Aug-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok seems to work for you karr the send button highlights. Maybe I just did the persons name wrong or something. Thanks for the help all. [03-Aug-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: np, received, all looks like it worked, yes names are case sensitive also i found out [03-Aug-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: at least seemed to be for me when trying to ad dosmeone it didnt auto find thme at first [03-Aug-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***echnaton** joined.* [03-Aug-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NosferaLuk** joined.* [03-Aug-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***counterkill** joined.* [03-Aug-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XXXReaperXXX755** left.* [03-Aug-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArtificialOwl** joined.* [03-Aug-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Taken me a moment but I'm finally producing a decent amount of goods on Katoa! [03-Aug-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangria** joined.* [03-Aug-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GUGHTY** joined.* [03-Aug-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OLDPERFECT** joined.* [03-Aug-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap OVE.CI1 while they last [03-Aug-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: those are really cheap xD [03-Aug-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Eat up [03-Aug-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shabababalaba** joined.* [03-Aug-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Is anyone else having trouble with ship flight control? [03-Aug-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Never mind it is working now. [03-Aug-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***skettiesandwich** joined.* [03-Aug-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fadedsliver** left.* [04-Aug-22 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have 600 MG here on katoa. If anyone is interested, maybe for a little PG production, hit me up. price is 50/u [04-Aug-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone selling DW on kat hit me up need it urgent [04-Aug-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeathRoams** joined.* [04-Aug-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got DW [04-Aug-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: post a buy for whatever you need [04-Aug-22 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have 260t free to ben station. anybody need a lift? [04-Aug-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: shipping ad posted [04-Aug-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 2 tiny shipments from me [04-Aug-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone flying imminently BEN to KAT [04-Aug-22 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Komas33** joined.* [04-Aug-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Anyone have some BSE left over and wants to sell via local market? [04-Aug-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: if it's urgent I can sell some of my stock for repairs. But I'm not making prefabs so price will be close to CX, 1200 [04-Aug-22 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Nah nothing urgent - still many thanks :) [04-Aug-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok :) [04-Aug-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeathRoams**: Hello im new and i added new production orders on an extractor and it says halted how do i fix that? [04-Aug-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: did you build habitat? [04-Aug-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/#why-does-my-production-line-show-as-halted {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/ FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [04-Aug-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Felix3Lindo** left.* [04-Aug-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera2f3432c2c** left.* [04-Aug-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frilanski** left.* [04-Aug-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Loco_tazz**: anyone a spot in a corporation? have been playing for few days now and think the game is kinda fun [04-Aug-22 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tap9** joined.* [04-Aug-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @loco_tazz what are you producing would help corps know [04-Aug-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Loco_tazz**: Just starten with [04-Aug-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Loco_tazz**: STL fuel [04-Aug-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Loco_tazz**: and will expand when i can but not sure to what yet [04-Aug-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***REDNAX** left.* [04-Aug-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vikn** left.* [04-Aug-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Loco_tazz**: Is this chat a little active normaly? [04-Aug-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: its middle of the work day in eu night time in asia and eaarly morning in USA kinda a dead time around the world for online games [04-Aug-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: oh and check ur com tab loco i sent you a dm [04-Aug-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Loco_tazz**: okay was just interested [04-Aug-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: but do keep active in here lots of people hop in and out of game constantly as the game isnt a min to min game [04-Aug-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Worst part of game is you cannot cancel ads in local market [04-Aug-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you can do it [04-Aug-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: how? [04-Aug-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: new buffer LMOS [04-Aug-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: use buffer LMOS and threre you can delete it [04-Aug-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: or the button top of the LM tab called LMOS [04-Aug-22 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: got it. Thanks [04-Aug-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Shipping is so costly in this game and LM is slow. [04-Aug-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: if price is good most ads will be accepted in 24h max [04-Aug-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: especialy for goods like fuel [04-Aug-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Well let's see than, posted 200STL @ 10 per unit a couple hours ago as a test :D [04-Aug-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: But looks like margin is low on them. [04-Aug-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: It's not much, but it's honest work [04-Aug-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: In this game you cannot be dishonest :) [04-Aug-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Yeah sorry I was just meme-quoting :D [04-Aug-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill buy it [04-Aug-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: I made OVE and market crashed :) [04-Aug-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and il lbuy the ove too [04-Aug-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just cut my BMPs by 40% so there’s going to be a lot less OVE, REP, PE, and MCG floating around [04-Aug-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: @karr1981, there is much more fuel where that came from, feel to ping me :) [04-Aug-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: and many thanks :) [04-Aug-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: just stl or you doing ftl also? [04-Aug-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: il lbe sure to drop you a message when i need some , jsut bought loads recently but burn through it hehe [04-Aug-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: mostly STL because it's easier to produce and I just started 2 days ago [04-Aug-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh cool [04-Aug-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Sounds good, looking forward to it :) [04-Aug-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: well im happy to support new businesses [04-Aug-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: *inser heart smiley here* [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***marine307** deleted this message.* [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: back off this is KCC territory [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehehe [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: jk [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: lol [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone need some C [04-Aug-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: go away [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: ILL CUT YOU KARR [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: lol [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: we will have the coal wars [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: now now [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can consume enough C for both of you [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: LOL [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill buy all the C you have , 200/u? [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: il lthne sell it tto Neke at 400 [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i was about to say thats rigged [04-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll buy it all for 300 hahah [04-Aug-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i know that i have black diamonds in my storage look at the CX [04-Aug-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: C.CI1 [04-Aug-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ship with embarassing 498m3/499t cargo leaving benten for katoa NOW if anyone wants to ship. 1 day journey, any price, firstcomefirstserved [04-Aug-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: @deliriouspsychoo2 check dm [04-Aug-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have some stuff at ben to come ot Kat [04-Aug-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh me too I think.. [04-Aug-22 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hehe [04-Aug-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i have as much C in storage as the cx has total LOL [04-Aug-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah CX is empty pretty much atm [04-Aug-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have some dude buying up my supply atm [04-Aug-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hes a bit dodgy [04-Aug-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i know that neke guy is a bit dodgy typical goverment :P [04-Aug-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve posted shipping. Also I accidentally made more HCP so will bring that back one day too [04-Aug-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 464m ship contract placed on Kat Lm, Ben to Kat, if you want it @xiq [04-Aug-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Last time I bought C in the market it was over 1,000 units iirc [04-Aug-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: KCC pay day [04-Aug-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep [04-Aug-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: ok. ship pretty much full, thanks. departing. unless someting has something tiny. (3t left) [04-Aug-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: *someone has something tiny [04-Aug-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: departed [04-Aug-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Neke has something tiny........;-) [04-Aug-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: so the C price cahnged quite quick up to 600 is the cheapest LOL [04-Aug-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: only for a day or so then i should be back to supply the CX at 350 [04-Aug-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i should have asked here i put my C on a ship earlier.. but it feels weird asking ppl to put up buy orders "'cause i'm basic" [04-Aug-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i think C is what people are willing to jump though hoops for at this stage [04-Aug-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: oh well, im making fuel on the side now so burning it on superfluous transport is not a problem [04-Aug-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: thE KCC is stil lrecruting member,s os if you decide to do C production as a ongoing thing fel free ot consider joining us [04-Aug-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: is it coordinated on discord? or on here? [04-Aug-22 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: we have a discord, stil lfairly new alot of new members etc but starting to get a bit organised, im helpign members with cheap Pfabs to hel pthem grow [04-Aug-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: im too socially avoidant to be in a corp, methinks [04-Aug-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoosterNL** left.* [04-Aug-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thoern** deleted this message.* [04-Aug-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chew_Crew_GMM** joined.* [04-Aug-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chew_Crew_GMM** left.* [04-Aug-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chew_Crew_GMM** joined.* [04-Aug-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemberg** left.* [04-Aug-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IMP_Killer69** joined.* [04-Aug-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANYJT** joined.* [04-Aug-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***levin1208** joined.* [04-Aug-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: hello guys [04-Aug-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANYJT** left.* [04-Aug-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hi there [04-Aug-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: how's it going? [04-Aug-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: markets have been busy... and prices are kind of wild atm [04-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***levin1208** left.* [04-Aug-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***p4zuz** joined.* [04-Aug-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grazul** joined.* [04-Aug-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANYJT** joined.* [04-Aug-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: I see [04-Aug-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver94** left.* [04-Aug-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Threw up some AL.CI1 for pretty cheap on the LM [04-Aug-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***crossfi73** left.* [04-Aug-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LoneDoIT** left.* [04-Aug-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AE_VITAS** left.* [04-Aug-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver94** joined.* [04-Aug-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dome21321** joined.* [04-Aug-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobTheGreat** joined.* [04-Aug-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mobius69** left.* [04-Aug-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MightyJackson** left.* [04-Aug-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sevak**: gotta send out my appreciation that somebody immediately made CHOAM in this game [04-Aug-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sevak**: good book [04-Aug-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [04-Aug-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I created the all encompassing trade network to go with it :) [04-Aug-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have an SKF here on Katoa. If you have inputs, I can rent it out to help you build parts. I am not taking SKF orders in general from the public though. [04-Aug-22 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tillmc** joined.* [04-Aug-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terysek** joined.* [04-Aug-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **terysek**: i guess this is little more complex than airlinesim [04-Aug-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJFernik** left.* [04-Aug-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: spice must flow :3 [04-Aug-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Now there's a mechanic we need! 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I broke them up into smaller lots to make them more accessible to small players at the higher government rates. Please do not donate to the COGC, fill the LM ads, get paid. [04-Aug-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Curbmonkey** left.* [05-Aug-22 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ANYJT** left.* [05-Aug-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bohicag** joined.* [05-Aug-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adelas** joined.* [05-Aug-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zeetu**: How do you tell what is in the manufacturing sector? for the COGC [05-Aug-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: When you construct a building it says the Expertise [05-Aug-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: underneath the Workforce requirement [05-Aug-22 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: At the pioneer level, it's just BMPs [05-Aug-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Would have a ~400t free on a flight to benten station - please ping me, if you need some transport, please give me a ping. [05-Aug-22 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Or the other way around - just posted a shipping ad for 4.8t from benten station to katoa @400 CIS. Easy earned money if you have some free space on your ship. [05-Aug-22 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 490t free from ben to kat [05-Aug-22 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeathRoams**: Is every base area 500?? [05-Aug-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: yes with option to increase (max. 3 x 150 per account) [05-Aug-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jmcraptor** joined.* [05-Aug-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeathRoams**: Willger how do you increase it [05-Aug-22 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: open base (BS) .. change permits ... to increase you must have a open base-Slot [05-Aug-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Isn’t it 2x250 base increase?? [05-Aug-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone flying from umbra to KAT and is 250 per permit added to your base to a max of 1000 [05-Aug-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: yes, sorry 250 ... [05-Aug-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: phew [05-Aug-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone running an APF here?? [05-Aug-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Disregard [05-Aug-22 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snixtruth** joined.* [05-Aug-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone want to take a full load from BEN to Ementior? if so dm me with price and ill discuss [05-Aug-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone have some KOM for sale? Benten again is empty :( [05-Aug-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: how much will you take at 400/u? [05-Aug-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: 50 [05-Aug-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: i posted ad [05-Aug-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Peregrine Void Marine Industries is proud to announce our first ship kit item, an SSL, will be rolling off the production line in a few hours time. Listed on the LM already. [05-Aug-22 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i need an LFE Neke [05-Aug-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Requires an ELP sorry [05-Aug-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got HWPs, WELs, SKF [05-Aug-22 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can do all plates, structural components, cargo bays, and STL tanks. FTL tanks if you bring me ZR [05-Aug-22 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have ship being built this week ,after that ill look into upgrading other 2 and wil lbe in touch [05-Aug-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rayzhong2021** joined.* [05-Aug-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just picked up 10 ZR so good for the first two SFL or one MFL [05-Aug-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vernoli** joined.* [05-Aug-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **vernoli**: hi [05-Aug-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AngryJoint** joined.* [05-Aug-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: good timing neke, just needed an SSL :-) [05-Aug-22 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Perfect! [05-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurealAlucard**: Is there a website or program that lets you pick what you want to produce and shows you the supply chains needed to produce that item? [05-Aug-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: the fun of the game is largely about worrying about these things, why don't you find a tool that plays the game for you? [05-Aug-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: https://prosper.run/production-chains/RAT/1 closest you will get @surealalucard {Embed} https://prosper.run/production-chains/RAT/1 Prosper: Production Chain Viewer Production chain viewer for Prosperous Universe [05-Aug-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurealAlucard**: Fun of the game is subjective to the person really. I enjoy other things about this game. Thanks Marine, thats exactly what I was looking for. [05-Aug-22 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: nobody using any MG on Katoa? [05-Aug-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0752b2afa9** left.* [05-Aug-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I have 100 MG on Katoa. [05-Aug-22 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @nicster if you need MG I can bring you some from Umbra [05-Aug-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: also using MG on Kat is not the best idea since you have Umbra so close with chemistry support there [05-Aug-22 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: anyone flying ben -> katoa today? I have 100t shipment [05-Aug-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurealAlucard**: I will be doing a 12h flight today [05-Aug-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurealAlucard**: ben station to katoa [05-Aug-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***el_keko** joined.* [05-Aug-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I brought MG to katoa because i have more than enough on Umbra, because I thought some newer people might produce some PG here on their first base. I know that it's better on Umbra, i have a massive PG plant there :-D [05-Aug-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MAVERICKOLI** joined.* [05-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and im happy to agree to buy PG here from any new producers at good rate [05-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 35/u [05-Aug-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship ready to leave Ben with 360t free [05-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yes [05-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ill take all that space [05-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much for the 360? [05-Aug-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: 1000cis? [05-Aug-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ok gimme 1 min ill create shipment on kat lm [05-Aug-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: up [05-Aug-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got it [05-Aug-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [05-Aug-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: ETA 3hrs [05-Aug-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ty [05-Aug-22 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aquazen** joined.* [05-Aug-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FeverIma** left.* [05-Aug-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epithemius** joined.* [05-Aug-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lulle2345** left.* [05-Aug-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raicus** joined.* [05-Aug-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrimsonCoder** joined.* [05-Aug-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userebabcea52e** left.* [05-Aug-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AggisTheFab** joined.* [05-Aug-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mythicpunk** joined.* [05-Aug-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fry2000** left.* [05-Aug-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4b3e33571** left.* [06-Aug-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***madgrinch109** left.* [06-Aug-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***orrybaby** joined.* [06-Aug-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***468984027** left.* [06-Aug-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daggie** joined.* [06-Aug-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Domtex** joined.* [06-Aug-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***m991** joined.* [06-Aug-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xYzI** joined.* [06-Aug-22 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***terysek** left.* [06-Aug-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gernald** joined.* [06-Aug-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheTheoRex** left.* [06-Aug-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banana_Lynx** left.* [06-Aug-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking to buy an LFE, dm me ot discuss price [06-Aug-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saint_arcadius** joined.* [06-Aug-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheW4tcher** joined.* [06-Aug-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten Stn in 5 min for Katoa. Have a bit over 300 in space open. Message me if you want a shipment. [06-Aug-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonJoin** left.* [06-Aug-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RestfulAtol** left.* [06-Aug-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: damnit i always miss these shippers [06-Aug-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paulo_Henrique_P_Moura** left.* [06-Aug-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0400a19b11** left.* [06-Aug-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: There are so many people going from Katoa that you should just throw it up if you need one. [06-Aug-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PoperahWinchrist** joined.* [06-Aug-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RurouniKenji** joined.* [06-Aug-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mayflower1492** joined.* [06-Aug-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apollo12Ol** left.* [06-Aug-22 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Does anyone have 2 MCG I can buy off them? [06-Aug-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***orwellianjelly** joined.* [06-Aug-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Travin** left.* [06-Aug-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: I do [06-Aug-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emix** joined.* [06-Aug-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: hello there [06-Aug-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ogizzle** left.* [06-Aug-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emix** left.* [06-Aug-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [06-Aug-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Sorry I am here [06-Aug-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I messaged you @etothepi [06-Aug-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: ok [06-Aug-22 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm looking to purchase 55 STR for the Government of Katoa, and infrastructure upkeep on other local systems. If you wish to tender for the provision of the STR at a price to be negotiated, please drop me a line :) [06-Aug-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm looking to pay ~1,350 [06-Aug-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TyrannussVictor** left.* [06-Aug-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dead_mans_army** joined.* [06-Aug-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slyz** joined.* [06-Aug-22 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **orwellianjelly**: looking for shipment work [06-Aug-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **orwellianjelly**: leaving ben in 10 mins with over 450t [06-Aug-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ill put an ad up [07-Aug-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 216 HCP on the LM @ 100u [07-Aug-22 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA UV-351a/35670 [07-Aug-22 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: buying 2 MGC for 100ncc [07-Aug-22 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thanks [07-Aug-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Now I can build my rig for H20. I repaired all my buildings today too. [07-Aug-22 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Night everyone! [07-Aug-22 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why are building a RIG on Katoa when water is available for so cheap on the LM? [07-Aug-22 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *CX [07-Aug-22 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've spent .. hundreds of thousands, ensuring there's water on the CX hahaha [07-Aug-22 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: ummm [07-Aug-22 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: [07-Aug-22 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I didn't do it, I swear it! [07-Aug-22 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am going to bed to sleep this one off. [07-Aug-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: A thousand area base, funded by CHOAM, putting 27,000 units of water on the CX at 20 or lower [07-Aug-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: [07-Aug-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: How do you get more area for your base? [07-Aug-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: permits [07-Aug-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: each permit gets +250 [07-Aug-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: max 1000 [07-Aug-22 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I just found it on the wiki >.< lol [07-Aug-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Good thing I am working on upgrading my hq [07-Aug-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just got my 17th permit [07-Aug-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Dang... just trying to get my 4th lol [07-Aug-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CodeSniper** joined.* [07-Aug-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KreaeTerra** joined.* [07-Aug-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i also hve 17 permits but produceing/buying the Afabs for more upgrades is a pain [07-Aug-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I think I’m at my natural limit [07-Aug-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: im working on the supply chain for a few more PP4s and with my 3rd 2k/2k ship in the queue i will keep growing at a slow but steady pace [07-Aug-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I saw your LCB orders up [07-Aug-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have one on order, should be able to make one every ~5 days [07-Aug-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have to be ready to upgrade my ships asap when the update goes live [07-Aug-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: and since a few milion cis are no concern to me i thought i migh place an order [07-Aug-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: wdym? ship upgrades update is already live [07-Aug-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: realy? [07-Aug-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: Yes [07-Aug-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i was on vacation for the last 2 weeks [07-Aug-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Pretty sure [07-Aug-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: damn your right [07-Aug-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @Knarfaction I can show you how it goes if you give me all your collected components :). I'm missing a few essentials parts. [07-Aug-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: seams im a bit late then XD [07-Aug-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: nah i dont have that much redy im afraied [07-Aug-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: ready [07-Aug-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tqre** deleted this message.* [07-Aug-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: @neke86 Scientist would be nice. How about building an UNI? [07-Aug-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: an = a ... [07-Aug-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: I can provide the electronic bits, afabs can't do [07-Aug-22 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Can probably build those LU's aswell in the future [07-Aug-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Upkeepwise, I can probably provide the HD's and TUBs [07-Aug-22 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***motykus** joined.* [07-Aug-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think upkeep is well with capacity [07-Aug-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: let me crunch numbers tomorrow [07-Aug-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cof, tub, hd in those numbers might be a problem [07-Aug-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not to mention the sheer cost of building one [07-Aug-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the two sci level manufacturing buildings are mostly using eng too [07-Aug-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it’s really only for an SL? [07-Aug-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: looking at least 2 SLs [07-Aug-22 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: I'll ask in corp if other peeps need scientists. Prox scientis situation is bit bad, but FOWL is working on that ;) [07-Aug-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Can also provide some cash for the project ;) [07-Aug-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I don’t want to compete with a reinvigorated proxion for scientists, not then for t electronics [07-Aug-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yissadon** joined.* [07-Aug-22 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3e9a033db9** left.* [07-Aug-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: anyone can spare 400 MCG? AD is up [07-Aug-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: about to depart ben->kat 50% cargo, 1day trip, anyone got anything to ship? [07-Aug-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yourshadow** left.* [07-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorpseChain** joined.* [07-Aug-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OUQUO**: Hello there, anyone interested in joining a corporation? FIO Corporation is looking for new companies to join our ranks. If you are willing to cause, or If interested in joining PM me or join our discord and read through our #welcome channel πŸ™‚Β https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [07-Aug-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Janikpease** left.* [07-Aug-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: (departed) [07-Aug-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: thx @ BlueHeeler [07-Aug-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: KCC is also recruting if you want to become a profitable C producing company, we will hel pyou with the building fabs [07-Aug-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***01010100** joined.* [07-Aug-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: WANTED: Weekly supply of 15 FE and 30 AL. Available to trade small amounts of PE LST GAL SF C KOM FIM MED NL and GL/RG. Message with preliminary trade offer. [07-Aug-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: Any1 can sell some BHP around Katoa? [07-Aug-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***timzon** left.* [07-Aug-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @bojidar008, seems a bit early to repair a ship. They can get to 80% before seeing fuel or speed loss due to condition [07-Aug-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: [GOV]neke86 sells BHP [07-Aug-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That’s right :) Drop me a DM [07-Aug-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Remember my cut lol [07-Aug-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: haha [07-Aug-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Odd way to get a commission? Ask to be knife slashed. [07-Aug-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: *dagger dagger dagger* [07-Aug-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: please, nothing so crude from my security service [07-Aug-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: people have accidents, it can’t be helped [07-Aug-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the void is unforgiving after all [07-Aug-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yes, it is amazing how many people accidently fall out of 6 floor windows. [07-Aug-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: air locks were a dangerous place there for a while [07-Aug-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol [07-Aug-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @neke86 did you get that production mix up solved. The one where the glass production and the ration production were getting cross fed inputs? [07-Aug-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: yummy glass [07-Aug-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahah [07-Aug-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: no one at the CX would notice a bit of silicon on the RATs [07-Aug-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: unrelated by anyone have BDE, BTA, and TRU they wanna sell me? Just need 2 of each [07-Aug-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: actually nvm lemme hold off on that [07-Aug-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: just an FYI... Benten any many other CXs are just about out of Sulfur [07-Aug-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: That stinks. [07-Aug-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It's not a populr resource to extract for a reason xD [07-Aug-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: truly [07-Aug-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ronaldo.yuri28** left.* [07-Aug-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CLU** joined.* [07-Aug-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AggisTheFab** left.* [07-Aug-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AggisTheFab** joined.* [07-Aug-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jinzey** joined.* [07-Aug-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxxSavage** joined.* [07-Aug-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GigiSan** joined.* [07-Aug-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've put up small ads for MED and HSS if someone's able to fill, much appreciated [07-Aug-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrustMe707** joined.* [07-Aug-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Your offer for MED is too low. The ask and offer at Benten are 650 and 750. [07-Aug-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sylektis7** left.* [07-Aug-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And cost is about half that and 400 is what I pay my regular supplier :) It’s all relative, the ads filled now [07-Aug-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sort of like paying 30 for SIO on Katoa :P [07-Aug-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd be pressed to get MED cost of production down to 200ea w/o a LAB [07-Aug-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And you shouldn’t try hahaha [07-Aug-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dont fight vertically integrated large players on their own turf [07-Aug-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: probably even need reliable source of AL too [07-Aug-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but the COT is the killer no? [07-Aug-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends if you're basing it off the 400/rco MM or not [07-Aug-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's doable... but.. it;s cuttign it thin xD [07-Aug-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship headed for EW with 450t free, if anyone needs it [07-Aug-22 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoonCorp** left.* [07-Aug-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Last call for EW [07-Aug-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one moment.. [07-Aug-22 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [07-Aug-22 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got it! [07-Aug-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: I have posted a taxation and upkeep update to the Katoa Politics discord channel. Hopefully this imgur link works for those without Discord: https://imgur.com/a/tdE1frl {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/tdE1frl Untitled Album https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lk4oRtUgkxr78piaeStAGtcYcsniRuv0tezJ2WfY6f4/https/i.imgur.com/CBk6E5Bh.jpg [07-Aug-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: tl;dr we're going well. running a deficit of ~100K, but that's to be expected with the PAR upgrade and the over-market rates I paid for COGC. [07-Aug-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm taking a vote on where the next small tax hike should fall in the Discord channel. The options are: [07-Aug-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Pioneers, Settlers,Technicians, Engineers, All Manufacturing + 10%, All PIO+SET +10% [07-Aug-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Please vote by DM'ing me, or joining the Discord [07-Aug-22 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll wait 24 hours, if voting is inconclusive or non-participatory I'll do what's in my best interests. [07-Aug-22 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 23:59 [07-Aug-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I've voted for O [07-Aug-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: considering consumable price increases [07-Aug-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't disagree! [07-Aug-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I didn't realize Katoa has more Tech and Engi as Proxion [07-Aug-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We don't advertise :) [07-Aug-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol [07-Aug-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: heh [07-Aug-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: houston, we have a problem [07-Aug-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: H.CI1 [07-Aug-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: is this the part of the show where shit hits the fan? [07-Aug-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enasins** joined.* [07-Aug-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I bought it all [07-Aug-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: all good. We didn't need to produce SF anyways [07-Aug-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: I mean I need for my SF production [07-Aug-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Doesn't everyone have a base on Umbra farming H =p [07-Aug-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: haha, all good [07-Aug-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Enasins**: u guys are all nerds lol [07-Aug-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: are you? [07-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Enasins**: no im gay [07-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: alright [07-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: We'll see if H fixes itself [07-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: Umbra H isn't that good [07-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Enasins**: pee ness [07-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: True, but it gets the job done [07-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: if it doesn't... I'll just stop producing... Isn't the end of the world [07-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: but if you are desperate [07-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: nah [07-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: H shipment is inbound.. don't ask me how I know. [07-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: How much? [07-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: How do you know? [07-Aug-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: I'm hauling for a producer. [07-Aug-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: ohhh [07-Aug-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: how much tho? [07-Aug-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: time for a custom contract [07-Aug-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: probably around 500 units of H [07-Aug-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: gone pretty fast. [07-Aug-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: maybe we pay him to name his producer... [07-Aug-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frostwood**: @PaidLeber I send you something [07-Aug-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah, I'm planning out an Umbra base... not likely to happen till mid-week.. may route some H from Hrt.. [07-Aug-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: hydrogen must flow [07-Aug-22 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 183 LST for sale on the LM! [08-Aug-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akrosh** joined.* [08-Aug-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got an urgent BEN>KAT shipping ask, 5K CIS. Please take it if you can get it done in a few hours [08-Aug-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Shipbuilding project at Benten - Yannick completed. :-) [08-Aug-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: only an stl hauler for now [08-Aug-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Congrats! I'm working towards eventually building a STL ship like that, which is why I'm working on getting a FE and AL base producing. [08-Aug-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: nice! [08-Aug-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I have one of those ordered...goign to take a while to reciev it tho [08-Aug-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fundator_Unum** joined.* [08-Aug-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I am gonna increase H capacity at cb-282d, but it will take some time, since INS is so damn scarce. [08-Aug-22 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How much do you need [08-Aug-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: for this update 2650 [08-Aug-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: But i am also missing AEF and fabs, since i am doing a lot of remodeling, expanding and fixing atm :-D [08-Aug-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha okay [08-Aug-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NovaStarpaws** joined.* [08-Aug-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***p4zuz** left.* [08-Aug-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToasterB** joined.* [08-Aug-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nullstring** left.* [08-Aug-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldenG** joined.* [08-Aug-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bridgman94** joined.* [08-Aug-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raoulin** left.* [08-Aug-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** left.* [08-Aug-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArclightAZ** left.* [08-Aug-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Having fun building spreadsheets. Now to earn 118,000NCC [08-Aug-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: That is just PHASE 1 [08-Aug-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SOLDAT28a** left.* [08-Aug-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN for Katoa within an hour. Lots of room for a quick trip. Message if interested in shipping. [08-Aug-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RighteousEvil** joined.* [08-Aug-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ship is full, departing. See ya all next trip. [08-Aug-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sagest** left.* [08-Aug-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Well that H on the CX did not last long :) [08-Aug-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: H planet expansion is in the works, fear not you thirsty fuelers. [08-Aug-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackwolf1473** joined.* [08-Aug-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackwolf1473** left.* [08-Aug-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NonExisting** left.* [08-Aug-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Machi** left.* [08-Aug-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Floretta** left.* [08-Aug-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spooksy** joined.* [08-Aug-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***guten** left.* [08-Aug-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LMA KW-358b/128 << Cheap ALO on Geidi Prime [08-Aug-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***null_anomaly** joined.* [08-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: taken [08-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks [08-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Was running out of space [08-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: thanks neke [08-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: accidentally took too much smelting supply there [08-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: drowning in oxygen [08-Aug-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Now I feel bad because I can't get it right away. [08-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh its koay [08-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay* [08-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll skim along for days but need to buy some breathing room eventually [08-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: some of the metals I smelt create mass out of nothing [08-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: AU/BGO for instance [08-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: fucking stupid [08-Aug-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How expensive is it to fly to Hortus station from here? [08-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: 200 FTL 125 STL time 2 Days 8h [08-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Thank you. [08-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: 8 hours and I am headed there. [08-Aug-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I hate exchanging money. [08-Aug-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: It is like I have to learn how to everytime. [08-Aug-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: That's why I made a screen for it [08-Aug-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** joined.* [08-Aug-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** left.* [08-Aug-22 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** joined.* [08-Aug-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** left.* [08-Aug-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** joined.* [08-Aug-22 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Benten STN in 5 minutes. Have space for 80 tons more. Will transport for $4/ton. Message me if interested. [08-Aug-22 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: ad up [08-Aug-22 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Got it. 70 tons left [08-Aug-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving. See ya all next trip. [08-Aug-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Just missed you [08-Aug-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Just pushing the button. Ill hold [08-Aug-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Nice! okay [08-Aug-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: TY [08-Aug-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Got it. I am now away. [08-Aug-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eel_Scientist** left.* [08-Aug-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theguard67** joined.* [09-Aug-22 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship bound for Umbra with 450t free, let me know if you need anything shipped [09-Aug-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @Joekingdom LMA UV-351a/35852 [09-Aug-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got it! [09-Aug-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thx [09-Aug-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syorx** joined.* [09-Aug-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snakeaim** joined.* [09-Aug-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingCorny** joined.* [09-Aug-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RealTaxPayer** left.* [09-Aug-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN for Katoa within 30 minutes. Have room for 350 tons. Will be continuing to Proxion within 3 days total. Less room but some open. [09-Aug-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9e188d2bcf** left.* [09-Aug-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: There are no commodity exchanges in XH-594? :\ [09-Aug-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: did a shipment to kiruna but I don't have enough fuel to get back [09-Aug-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Have you tried the LM's on each planet? [09-Aug-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **etothepi**: yup. I guess I can fly my other ship out there with fuel [09-Aug-22 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Sorry I can't eb of more help, I don't have anything near there [09-Aug-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9507c1578** left.* [09-Aug-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Narr** joined.* [09-Aug-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Croll** left.* [09-Aug-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crashmatic** joined.* [09-Aug-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theguard67** left.* [09-Aug-22 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything brought over from Umbra? Got 290t free [09-Aug-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moe.** left.* [10-Aug-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Proxion soon. 400 space open for shipments. Message me if interested. [10-Aug-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can send some small stuff [10-Aug-22 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: won't be much sorryu [10-Aug-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am usually booked solid when I do this run. This is an odd thing with so much space. guess my timing is off the regular shippers. [10-Aug-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted [10-Aug-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Got 2. Thanks [10-Aug-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 3? [10-Aug-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 4 [10-Aug-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: one more [10-Aug-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 4 ok [10-Aug-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Still 360 space open [10-Aug-22 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Firster** joined.* [10-Aug-22 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gen.Bonaparte** joined.* [10-Aug-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Master_Grid** joined.* [10-Aug-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davvyk** joined.* [10-Aug-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user827d47d27c** left.* [10-Aug-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Hello, looking for cargo Kat > Ben 400/350 free. Start in 20 min. [10-Aug-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: LMA UV-351a/35967 [10-Aug-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: LMA UV-351a/35966 [10-Aug-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i can fill that :-) [10-Aug-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BIGBOYREEE** joined.* [10-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***warhog** left.* [10-Aug-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***arcelo** joined.* [10-Aug-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: hey guys..need some 60H till my delivery on Katoa..any1 can sell me that much? [10-Aug-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: posted an ad [10-Aug-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleFinger** joined.* [10-Aug-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Any EXO or REP incoming on the CX? [10-Aug-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: how many do you need? [10-Aug-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Anyone have 10 Hydrogen I can purchase? [10-Aug-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure [10-Aug-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: post ad [10-Aug-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How much? [10-Aug-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: 80 [10-Aug-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: No problem [10-Aug-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: posted [10-Aug-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Gave you a 20ncc tip [10-Aug-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: eee....you missed one 0 in price :p [10-Aug-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: oh 80 each [10-Aug-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: also why ncc? [10-Aug-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I dunno I am off today [10-Aug-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: One of those days [10-Aug-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: posted [10-Aug-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: also gave a conveince fee [10-Aug-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: My fingers hate me today [10-Aug-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: :) [10-Aug-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorvenDallas** left.* [10-Aug-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5c32e49ede** left.* [10-Aug-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sg1113** left.* [10-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @Loco_tazz unless you have a buyer lined up for your H order, you're like 7k short on an order like that [10-Aug-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Probably not gonna get filled [10-Aug-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***flutui** joined.* [10-Aug-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: anybody have some GAL for sale ? [10-Aug-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorgiCamando** left.* [10-Aug-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MamaGoose** left.* [10-Aug-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **orwellianjelly**: yes but I'm new, how do I sell it to you? [10-Aug-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **orwellianjelly**: I have 30 [10-Aug-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nwingrovekamphorst** left.* [10-Aug-22 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cr0ss0vr** joined.* [10-Aug-22 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: how much do you want for that ? [10-Aug-22 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have GAL that i will sell. Up to 100 units at 77 CIS per unit. [10-Aug-22 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: 65 ? [10-Aug-22 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't sell under current bid amount at the CX. [10-Aug-22 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: ok [10-Aug-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Is that ok, you're going to put a buy up on the LM? [10-Aug-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: I am getting filled in 50-60 range [10-Aug-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Ok [10-Aug-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just post the ads, doesn’t really need coordinating unless they’re expiring [10-Aug-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: people will fill them [10-Aug-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** deleted this message.* [10-Aug-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: Leaving for Ben station in 30 mins with 428t space. Let me know what you need shipped [10-Aug-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lina.** left.* [10-Aug-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XX_MYHTIX_XX** left.* [10-Aug-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hey I just made this for someone the other day but thought I'd share it here. It's a simple plot of a real flight from Katoa to Benten Station. Helps visualise fuel expenditure vs flight time. Obviously the orbital mechanics change and the numbers will vary slightly, but the curve is essentially the same all the time in my experience: [10-Aug-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: https://imgur.com/a/ogTYXfg {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/ogTYXfg Example Flight Data: Katoa to Benten Station https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PgQLUq7ms1wB6oSYTSf-I8Nl9gf6ZLK_a8SiWR3siZU/https/i.imgur.com/Y1mlx4sh.jpg [10-Aug-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Stupid ship manufature sent out a new flight controls for my ship and they are bugged again. I told my pilots to stop updating in ports. [10-Aug-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: lol [10-Aug-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 thank you that is interesting. [10-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The x-axis also happens to be the amount of slider clicks [10-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so between 8-10 clicks (for a full tank) on the STL slider and the time savings are rapidly diminishing [10-Aug-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: unless the orbits are very wide, I find 180-200 SF is optimal [10-Aug-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: because you can generally do one leg in the morning and onein the evening [10-Aug-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and be cruising 24/7/365 :) [10-Aug-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Trips taking 4-6h ea. is quite different than my usual CX to CX runs [10-Aug-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 4-6h each would be a lot of fuel haha [10-Aug-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's worth building one of these for your CX-CX runs, because those should be far less variable [10-Aug-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: What is a CX to CX run? [10-Aug-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: from benten station to moria station for example [10-Aug-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not touching a planet [10-Aug-22 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: CX to CX takes me at least a day + hours per trip... but having ships make some credits is nice [10-Aug-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: What reason do people have for going from one CX to another? [10-Aug-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: Wouldn't it cost them FTL? [10-Aug-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: buy low at one.. and sell it higher at another [10-Aug-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: as long as you make more than it costs in repair, fuel, etc.... [10-Aug-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: yeah they might make a big amount of money in this way [10-Aug-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: but its risky i suppose [10-Aug-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: One of the largest players in the game got there basically trading that way I believe [10-Aug-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the CXs are a lot closer in pricing now though [10-Aug-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: used to be fabs in Moria were substantially lower than anywher else [10-Aug-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: now its hit and miss [10-Aug-22 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raesins** joined.* [10-Aug-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Raesins**: Guys I am new and am trying to send my ship to a station. My problem is it won't let me select fuel usage or anything like that so I can't send it [10-Aug-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah the flight system is currently down [10-Aug-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a bug [10-Aug-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Raesins**: Oh ok [10-Aug-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Raesins**: Thank you for the quick response! It is much appreciated! [10-Aug-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thiodolfr** left.* [10-Aug-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Raesins**: Well, I guess there isn't really a whole lot I can do at the moment if flight is down lol. Production for now and I will check on the game later! [10-Aug-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeap :) [10-Aug-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome to Katoa btw [10-Aug-22 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Benten STN within the hour. Lots of space. Can carry over 400. Rate 5/ton or m3. [10-Aug-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***00daytrading00** left.* [11-Aug-22 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Why is it that I couldn't find what I've bought? [11-Aug-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Was it at Benten STN or a LM ad? [11-Aug-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WaffulDwagoon** joined.* [11-Aug-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: So ...i am a bit confused...building my space base, to refine fuels I ploppedd down a collector but apparently refiners for making space fuel are not accessible to pioneers? [11-Aug-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: was i supposed to make a basic materials plant instead? [11-Aug-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you can sell some you our fuel from ships tanks and build HAB2 for settlers [11-Aug-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: yea, but wasn't being a fuel selling supposed to be one the easier routes? Did it change? Or am I supposedd to be extracting ores to smelt for making fuel? [11-Aug-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Refineries are under settler because they do need 20 to run at 100%, but you can run a refinery without the settlers [11-Aug-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Benten STN [11-Aug-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: hrm...but it didn't let me build it part of the tutirual, just gave me enough materials to construct a basic materials plant [11-Aug-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @Gen.Bonaparte check your CONT tab to the left [11-Aug-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: More here use Extractor for GAL, a Collector for AMonia and buy H [11-Aug-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @ Gen. Bonapart. Is your ship at the Station to get it? [11-Aug-22 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Do ytou have a warehouse there? [11-Aug-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Waff---did you start as a manufacturer or a fuel maker? [11-Aug-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: That's where it seems wired, I find nothing in the CONT bar. [11-Aug-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: so in other words, i can't start from scratch and build a refinery from the start . I started fuel maker [11-Aug-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: I don't have a warehouse there [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: is it a must? [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Waff you should be able to I did [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But there should be a contract with the station in CONT [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: unless i needed to build one pioneer and one settler hab to make it...hrm [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Wafful you can demolish all your buildings [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and get all the resources back [11-Aug-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you're less than an hour old right? [11-Aug-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: less then 8 mins into turitual [11-Aug-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Okay, I suppose I should rent a warehouse first and try again [11-Aug-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A refinery uses 60 pioneers and 20 settlers. I works with only pioneers just not as efficient [11-Aug-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: leaving in 40 minutes from Umbra to Katoa with 400t free space. Fast trip, around 3,5h. [11-Aug-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @Gen. Bonapart anything seen using the command--- CXOS? [11-Aug-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dimitri21** left.* [11-Aug-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: basic materials plant demolished :) and yes, seemed i am wrong, i managed to get a refinery built and one order of FTL for 500U [11-Aug-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: That's it! [11-Aug-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: CXOS! [11-Aug-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Thank you bro! [11-Aug-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @Gen.Bonapart so the cargo is waiting at the station for your ship to pick it up then I assume. [11-Aug-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Um, I don't even know how to @ someone [11-Aug-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Yeah I'll see how to fetch them back [11-Aug-22 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: hrm...definately much more confusing then Virtcaller...but not too hard [11-Aug-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yes this game has a lot to learn to master for sure [11-Aug-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Make sure you aren't burning through your fuel too quickly [11-Aug-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: nah, plotting to try an sell it at least enough to figure how to make helium-3 isotope. Which I assume ts is a minedd product [11-Aug-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @Gen.Bonapart I suggest take the fuel outh of your second ship and place as cargo in the first, along this anything else that may be surplus. Then travel as a slow/not using too much fuel rate to the Station. Sell the extra fule and things, picj up the thing ya bought and buy things ya gonna need, like H [11-Aug-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: oops did I message that to the wrong person.. i should not have 2 converstaions on at the same time this late at night. [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: anyway that was for the fuel maker person [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: hehehe :D i learned quickly going bankrupt on virtcaller, due to fluctuating rates on beans :) this is a first for fuel attendant :) [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Gen.Bonapart I started a private converstaion with you you can see it under the COM marker at the far left of the screen. [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: You're best off buying either the TS or the He3 in the beginning, you'll need to set up a new base to mine your own [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: hrm good info [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Good luck all I am off for the night soon. See ya all another time [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WaffulDwagoon**: have a good night :) [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Szard** joined.* [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can an authorised rep from the KCC contact me about negotiating to purchase 1,000 C within the next week? [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Could someone tell me how to deliver the commodities onboard my ship? I've flied my ship to the CXL station. [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If you buy something there is a drop down menu to choose the destination for the goods. [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If it is already in your warehouse storage you can simply open the storage and the cargo hold of your ship and move it by drag and drop [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Oh I see. [11-Aug-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gen.Bonaparte**: Thx [11-Aug-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cobbrou** left.* [11-Aug-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Have 325/325 free on a KAT->BEN run, leaving in an hour or when full. Flight time expected to be 90 minutes because I'm in a hurry with this shipment. Let me know if you want to be added to this fast bus. [11-Aug-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: 357.44m/338.92t free to be precise. [11-Aug-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Down to 189.44m/170.92t free. 45 min til take off or when full. [11-Aug-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Only charging higher of 6/m or 6/t. Bargain price for 90 min flight time. [11-Aug-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemony** left.* [11-Aug-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Flight leaves in 30 min. [11-Aug-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Flight leaves in 15 min. [11-Aug-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheLoneWolfAlex12** left.* [11-Aug-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Boarding has closed. Flight has left for BEN. ETA 90 min. Thanks for flying ZIPP. [11-Aug-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone making bbh? [11-Aug-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kewko** joined.* [11-Aug-22 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: fulfillment attempted - I guess this means I cannot deliver, because not enough space in target storage left? [11-Aug-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yep usually thats the reason [11-Aug-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blancobrunob** joined.* [11-Aug-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: any AMM for sale? [11-Aug-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: How much you need? [11-Aug-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship headed to EW with 380t free, gonna leave in ~30min [11-Aug-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user72096f0ea8** left.* [11-Aug-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user77850cd2ed** left.* [11-Aug-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: What's Katoa's Available plots of "0 / 387 (+27)" mean? [11-Aug-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It means no other players (expect for new players) can have a base on Katoa until there are avalible plots [11-Aug-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the planet is essentially full [11-Aug-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: The '+27' is because there are special plots for new players [11-Aug-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Basically means 28 people would have to destroy the bases here before a veteran player could get a plot [11-Aug-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: destroy their* [11-Aug-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonnyDKS** joined.* [11-Aug-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: Are new plots ever added or it has to be an existing one that gets demolished to free up space? [11-Aug-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: plots aren't added... just freed up by [11-Aug-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangria** left.* [11-Aug-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship leaving ben with 470t free, gonna be a quick flight [11-Aug-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raieon** left.* [11-Aug-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bavell** joined.* [11-Aug-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***null_anomaly** left.* [11-Aug-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GUGHTY** left.* [11-Aug-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KlvBass** joined.* [11-Aug-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***null_anomaly** joined.* [11-Aug-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kurisu_Makise**: I was lucky to get a plot here before [11-Aug-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kurisu_Makise**: what's a good niche to try here? A local carbon farm? [11-Aug-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah, Carbon is selling well and water is cheap [11-Aug-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can start with FRM+INCs then either develop further that way or add a BMP later [11-Aug-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: Anyone leaving from Katoa to BEN station got room? [11-Aug-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kurisu_Makise**: gotcha. Moria is my main region, so I can't afford to send ships here often XD [11-Aug-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kurisu_Makise**: So I thought of a carbon farm that seems to be self-sufficient in the region, and I'll try it. [11-Aug-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I mean if you have the FRMs then you just need to occasionally ship H2O down ffrom the CX, should be easy [12-Aug-22 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yellerer** joined.* [12-Aug-22 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***null_anomaly** left.* [12-Aug-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draz0000** left.* [12-Aug-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Flying Kat>Ben, starting in 30 min. [12-Aug-22 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: 95t left [12-Aug-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArtificialOwl** left.* [12-Aug-22 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve got COF for sale, DM me if you’re interested [12-Aug-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chew_Crew_GMM** left.* [12-Aug-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IMP_Killer69** left.* [12-Aug-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Extremely_Boring** joined.* [12-Aug-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sagaofsin** joined.* [12-Aug-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grazul** left.* [12-Aug-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zatal** joined.* [12-Aug-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dome21321** left.* [12-Aug-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobTheGreat** left.* [12-Aug-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver94** left.* [12-Aug-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeenSeal** left.* [12-Aug-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tillmc** left.* [12-Aug-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Slyz**: Are the servers slow or is my internet slow? 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He's building ELP right now [13-Aug-22 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: needing to fly ben->kat and looking for shipping jobs [13-Aug-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AngryJoint** left.* [13-Aug-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***evaK** joined.* [13-Aug-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: n00b question, does enviroment of planet effects cost of hq upgrades? [13-Aug-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok, discord confirmed that cost of hq upgrades does not change :) [13-Aug-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeekIiroz** joined.* [13-Aug-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lorenz_H** joined.* [13-Aug-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bazkizz** joined.* [13-Aug-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mingxin080417** left.* [13-Aug-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MCSTIE**: Would send a ship to Benten Station in a couple of mins.. anyone needs a lift? [13-Aug-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***skettiesandwich** left.* [13-Aug-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: space elevator, that's what we need [13-Aug-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Minerik** joined.* [13-Aug-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: Can you convert other currency to the type in your home system? [13-Aug-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/foreign-exchange/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/foreign-exchange/ 5. Foreign Exchange :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [13-Aug-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: the exchange is only for pro licenses. you can trade between CXes; buy what's cheap in that currency, sell for the one you want in another CX [13-Aug-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship leaving ben with 270t free, leaving in about an hour [13-Aug-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userce113cd0f0** left.* [13-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BAKY** joined.* [13-Aug-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shabababalaba** left.* [13-Aug-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liam726** joined.* [13-Aug-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mythicpunk** left.* [13-Aug-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epithemius** left.* [13-Aug-22 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MasterChaotics** left.* [13-Aug-22 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deathscithe** left.* [14-Aug-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GoldenG**: That hydrogen price at benten :'( [14-Aug-22 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Hopefully that'll help push the STL fuel price up! 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[14-Aug-22 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sent a lil package for 400 CIS [14-Aug-22 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: This package is from Katoa to Station, but I will fly in the opposit direction, sorry [14-Aug-22 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For Thoern :) [14-Aug-22 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: ah, ok, sorry [14-Aug-22 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Captain_Khar** joined.* [14-Aug-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daggie** left.* [14-Aug-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theythemDanham** joined.* [14-Aug-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **rogervergespizarro**: how do i farm fuel if i just started? [14-Aug-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: you would needto build a refinery and find source of the materials needed, AMM and NAB for SF or HE3 and H for FF [14-Aug-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i would say its probably a tricky thing for a new company [14-Aug-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: GAL for SF [14-Aug-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh yes that recipe prob easierm AMM GAL AND H [14-Aug-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **IcarusRenatus**: I use the AMM GAL H recipe, you can buy H at the station when you're starting out [14-Aug-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dervy** joined.* [14-Aug-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***el_keko** left.* [14-Aug-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Buying 32 LBH, does anyone have any? [14-Aug-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i have 6 here [14-Aug-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: have put them on LM [14-Aug-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **blancobrunob**: is there a way for free users to make shipping contracts? im tired of having to do trips with 1% cargo xD [14-Aug-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gilith** deleted this message.* [14-Aug-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cecem** left.* [14-Aug-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: not shipping contracts... but players can get involved with CX to CX trading for some extra creadits [14-Aug-22 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: basically take cheap goods at one CX and sell for more in another [14-Aug-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Go Pro, it's worth it [14-Aug-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Getting your production lines automated is amazing [14-Aug-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: Free can make shipping contract to and from CX [14-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: does anyone have 2 MCG? :D [14-Aug-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: thanks, that saved me 4 hours [14-Aug-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: NP [14-Aug-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: WOW The Gravy Company has CRASHED the price of Galite. [14-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I saw that, I'm sure it will go quick though, and get resold at the higher prices [14-Aug-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***darksideangel51015** joined.* [14-Aug-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN for Katoa within 10 minutes. Have a little space, 55 tons, if interested. [14-Aug-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I'm away. see ya next trip. [14-Aug-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user624bfbc2c0** left.* [14-Aug-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bleek** joined.* [14-Aug-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wqfles** joined.* [14-Aug-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1d31941bd1** left.* [14-Aug-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6c696d06f9** left.* [14-Aug-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleFinger** left.* [14-Aug-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleFinger** joined.* [14-Aug-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Leaving Katoa in 10 min headed for Benten Station [14-Aug-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: anyone else getting really long server-side ui delays? maybe cuz it's near weekly reset? or is that just me? [14-Aug-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: No [14-Aug-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dzentak** joined.* [14-Aug-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saint_arcadius** left.* [14-Aug-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: server was reset eariler today.. [14-Aug-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dzentak** left.* [14-Aug-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: LAST CALL! Leaving for Benten Station [14-Aug-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think navigation is dead [14-Aug-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 I do not want to hear that! [14-Aug-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: lol [14-Aug-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I told those pilots they are to not upgrade the navigation system anymore. [14-Aug-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've already spaced two pilots but the union isn't backing down [14-Aug-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: lol [14-Aug-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Yeah it is down [14-Aug-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: Cmon neke, we need you to be our union busting governor [14-Aug-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll send a team over to Molp's headquarters [14-Aug-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: yeah i'm having trouble plotting, like, the easiest flight course ever [14-Aug-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Serene**: We all lost favor with the Spacing Guild [14-Aug-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: can't even do benten -> katoa, rip [14-Aug-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shawng2003** joined.* [14-Aug-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: @smittyventures - it is not a long term supply unfortunately. So those selling GAL will have their prices back - but at least some refiners will get a deal for a while [14-Aug-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snixtruth** left.* [15-Aug-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sucripino** joined.* [15-Aug-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Peregrine Heavy Industries is proud to announce the delivery of our second special order cargo bay! [15-Aug-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you are looking to upgrade, or for new builds, we make fuel tanks, cargo bays, hull plates, structural components and potentially also field emitters. Lead times vary but consider Peregrine Heavy for your shipwright needs today (we also gladly work with other shipwrights to help expedite existing orders). [15-Aug-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Current order book: [15-Aug-22 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1x MCB for 190,000 CIS (27-30hrs delivery time) [15-Aug-22 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1x LCB for 360,000 CIS (80-90hrs delivery time) [15-Aug-22 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There's already an SCB on the CX, and an SSL, both of them more than suitable for an in-system STL ship. [15-Aug-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Nice advertisement. Changing my ships is still beyond my possibilities, but it made my play arround with the simulation a little bit. :-) [15-Aug-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3a8a8ef443** left.* [15-Aug-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: dm sent Neke for a MCB [15-Aug-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chuck.Norris** joined.* [15-Aug-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaKatze** left.* [15-Aug-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have any KOM on kat? [15-Aug-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I am sure I don't have it. But what is a KOM? [15-Aug-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: It stands for Kombucha, which is a luxury consumable for settlers [15-Aug-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah thx [15-Aug-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NosferaLuk** left.* [15-Aug-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf33aeb44c3** left.* [15-Aug-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sceleton** joined.* [15-Aug-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DansM26** left.* [15-Aug-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5246d9eda8** left.* [15-Aug-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***louix.meltdown** joined.* [15-Aug-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2b2a9d7be5** left.* [15-Aug-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***21002070** joined.* [15-Aug-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VictorAmorim** joined.* [15-Aug-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***samohtGTO** joined.* [15-Aug-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fl0wey** joined.* [15-Aug-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0bae2edfbb** left.* [15-Aug-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4e68144f26** left.* [15-Aug-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera1de1f3635** left.* [15-Aug-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melman** joined.* [15-Aug-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user886726ca92** left.* [15-Aug-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf022eb1be** left.* [15-Aug-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rhzovin** joined.* [15-Aug-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Anyone has 300 MCG? AD is up [15-Aug-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have 230 I could sell [15-Aug-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: fullfilled [15-Aug-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aerosfilis** joined.* [15-Aug-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: thx [15-Aug-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COGC is due. If anyone would like to contribute before I organise it, please contribute directly and send me a CONTD at the following prices: [15-Aug-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: DW 50/u [15-Aug-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: RAT 80/u [15-Aug-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG 30/u [15-Aug-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PE 4/u [15-Aug-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Your assistance greatly appreciated in slightly reducing my administrative work :) [15-Aug-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: have private contracts assisted in organizing the governmental workload? [15-Aug-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: How do I donate 50 DW [15-Aug-22 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The buffer command to see the COGC is "COGCU UV-351a" [15-Aug-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enasins** left.* [15-Aug-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZeroProxy** joined.* [15-Aug-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: There you go @neke86 all I can donate for now. [15-Aug-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: After my next 5 runs I can hopefully help more. [15-Aug-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sell me a corresponding magic DW via CONTD and I'll pay :) [15-Aug-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: @neke86 I messaged you. [15-Aug-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Signing off for the night. Chat with ya'll later. [15-Aug-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN for Katoa in 10 minutes. Have room for 70 tons and 260 m3. Contact me is you want a ship,emt. [16-Aug-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akrosh** joined.* [16-Aug-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Anyone with spare HAL for sale? I need long term supplier with around 40-50pcs per day [16-Aug-22 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CodeSniper** left.* [16-Aug-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: also if anyone has a spare gold fountain I’d need some regular supply of that too ;) [16-Aug-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you don't want that- too heavy ;) [16-Aug-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What I actually need is CUO [16-Aug-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have CUO on Manifold. Beautiful 6 day ride :-D. [16-Aug-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: useless hahahaha [16-Aug-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NovaStarpaws** left.* [16-Aug-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BunBao** joined.* [16-Aug-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToasterB** left.* [16-Aug-22 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrHelixPHD** joined.* [16-Aug-22 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: need 6 MHL if anyone selling [16-Aug-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Ask @Dominaria. He has a production line for MHL [16-Aug-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I have 6 MHLs [16-Aug-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I produce 16 MHL/day btw [16-Aug-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Torciq** joined.* [16-Aug-22 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bridgman94** left.* [16-Aug-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user29f99b60b9** left.* [16-Aug-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheYetti** joined.* [16-Aug-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fl0wey** left.* [16-Aug-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toby24569** joined.* [16-Aug-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZeroProxy** left.* [16-Aug-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship leaving for EW in about an hour, 450t free [16-Aug-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MidasPL** joined.* [16-Aug-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RighteousEvil** left.* [16-Aug-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Shipping Proxion --> Katoa still have 275/275 open, leaving in 30min. [16-Aug-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hawk0ne** joined.* [16-Aug-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user67b39ae858** left.* [16-Aug-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KillerXNO** joined.* [16-Aug-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowThorn** joined.* [16-Aug-22 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want 106 ALO? send me a CONTD at a fair price and I'll fill it here on katoa presently [16-Aug-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Did you get an offer on the ALO? [16-Aug-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dont see anyway [16-Aug-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: any* [16-Aug-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: was just gonna close on the first CONT to come through the door [16-Aug-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Closed [16-Aug-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks @BlueHeeler [16-Aug-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If I occasionally have more of that can I just send it your way? [16-Aug-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: you can always reject it [16-Aug-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, I am always willing to buy ALO. [16-Aug-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome.Thanks for the ore. [16-Aug-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: anyone have any CL? [16-Aug-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QrazyAbc** joined.* [16-Aug-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blood_God** joined.* [16-Aug-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***boathull** joined.* [16-Aug-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***martineeez** joined.* [17-Aug-22 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cosmic_warlock** joined.* [17-Aug-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiao_lv** joined.* [17-Aug-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordMM** joined.* [17-Aug-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: in 45 minutes I will go from benten to katoa, 250t free space [17-Aug-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will set up some cont [17-Aug-22 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @dasrallum you will have your goods delivered in 3h. ship just left BEN [17-Aug-22 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spoingo** joined.* [17-Aug-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Does anyone have 16 LDE on Katoa? [17-Aug-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: wow, this is fast [17-Aug-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: are you in hurry? [17-Aug-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: usually I calculate one day for the shipment. XD [17-Aug-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: with only 2 ships and 4 bases I can't do slow trips :p [17-Aug-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hehe, I see [17-Aug-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamer_dog** left.* [17-Aug-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I just realize that one of our planets was named recently. [17-Aug-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: guys [17-Aug-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: is there any way to remove pop fro m my base? [17-Aug-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: there are like 80 idle workforce just using up my supplies [17-Aug-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: demolish habitat? :) [17-Aug-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: oh [17-Aug-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: but then my workforce will also get removed + i cant rebuild the hab cuz no monie [17-Aug-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: maybe i should try that when i get some money tho [17-Aug-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: then just wait, they will leave on the next pop update [17-Aug-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: oh ok [17-Aug-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: which should be soon, today or tomorrow I think [17-Aug-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: k thanks [17-Aug-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there was pop raport 10h ago, so you will have to wait a week for next one [17-Aug-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: still fine [17-Aug-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: guess i should just feed them before that [17-Aug-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Population will only consume if they are employed. If you have housing but don't employ them.. they don;t consume [17-Aug-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: o ok [17-Aug-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorpseChain** left.* [17-Aug-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Benten STN in 30 minutes and have 80 space for shipments. Contact if interested. [17-Aug-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [17-Aug-22 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Currency? [17-Aug-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Nope [17-Aug-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: It is not on our planet. It is on CB-282 D. It will not let me rent a warehouse and I have before. [17-Aug-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: NVM they are out of warehouses [17-Aug-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vanc** left.* [17-Aug-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***brekokrys** joined.* [17-Aug-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** joined.* [17-Aug-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** left.* [17-Aug-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** joined.* [17-Aug-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** left.* [17-Aug-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***samohtGTO** left.* [17-Aug-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***samohtGTO** joined.* [17-Aug-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** joined.* [17-Aug-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** left.* [17-Aug-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Any PG on Katoaß [17-Aug-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: ?* [17-Aug-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** joined.* [17-Aug-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** left.* [17-Aug-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** joined.* [17-Aug-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingCorny** left.* [17-Aug-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DK.Ezo** joined.* [17-Aug-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spice_Dandy** left.* [17-Aug-22 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: hi all [17-Aug-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hey there [17-Aug-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: hello there [17-Aug-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: i think i messed up my game what to do? [17-Aug-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: what do you mean messed it up? [17-Aug-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: like you want to reset? [17-Aug-22 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: yes to restart [17-Aug-22 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: to rip off help chat "Tief bottom left screen click new bfr then type coliq in the new window. You are limited to about 3 coliq before you are stuck for a month]" [17-Aug-22 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: also NEW BFR COMP HELP gets you to the help channel [17-Aug-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: ok thanks [17-Aug-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: Did you get it figured out? I didnt realize you asked that question in help chat to begin with. [17-Aug-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: nope it won't let me [17-Aug-22 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DK.Ezo**: when you open the COLIQ buffer and you click the grey text that says click here what does it say? [17-Aug-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: i have pending contracts [17-Aug-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST/CLI posted to LM UV-072c, three orders total. [17-Aug-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crashmatic** left.* [18-Aug-22 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: guys when is a good time to start on pro license subscription? [18-Aug-22 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It depends on you... but I'm months into the game and only now considering it [18-Aug-22 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Access to the LM and a shipping is nice.. but there are other things later into the game that are very impactful. (Ship upgrade, HQ level, building new ships, etc.) [18-Aug-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: dont forget repeating production orders [18-Aug-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: ok thanks [18-Aug-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: i was trying to build a ship for intersystem travel [18-Aug-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: and i realized my starters are too slow [18-Aug-22 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: starter ships are quite fast [18-Aug-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's ll about how much fuel you're using per trip... and making fuel can reduce that price [18-Aug-22 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: k thanks [18-Aug-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: leaving for BEN in 10mins, ~440t free. it'll be an express flight, 3.5h [18-Aug-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davvyk** left.* [18-Aug-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0905818d73** left.* [18-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: heading back to katoa soon, again- express flight, below 4h. ~330t free [18-Aug-22 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user65571d5420** left.* [18-Aug-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Shipping 200/200 Katoa>Proxion, leaving in 30 min [18-Aug-22 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: guys is there a way to get experts faster? [18-Aug-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: build more buildings from that expertise and keep them running 24/7 [18-Aug-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/#expert-spawn-rates--bonuses {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/ Efficiency factors :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [18-Aug-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 3 experts can be recruited relatively fast, 4th takes much longer [18-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bananadan4** joined.* [18-Aug-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: if anyone have AMM for sale here or on Benten-d DM me [18-Aug-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Omanyte** joined.* [18-Aug-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lodiz** joined.* [18-Aug-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4e644be2f6** left.* [18-Aug-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alt278** joined.* [18-Aug-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skippy_A1C** joined.* [18-Aug-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ParryH** joined.* [18-Aug-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mario13219** joined.* [18-Aug-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skippy_A1C** left.* [18-Aug-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BIGBOYREEE** left.* [18-Aug-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: got a ship headed to umbra with 460t free [18-Aug-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: I hope i get better at this 40,000 in the red. [18-Aug-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ahmurhama** joined.* [18-Aug-22 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Only one way to go from the bottom @coolwave8 [18-Aug-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Didn't even know you could go into debt? [18-Aug-22 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Is that a new worth -40,000 or a loss to date of 40,000? [18-Aug-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I had a new loss my first 2 weeks. [18-Aug-22 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah but not in actual cash balance right? [18-Aug-22 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Right. I was still new worth like 110,000 [18-Aug-22 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: net worth [18-Aug-22 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It all came togeth on week 3 and I have had a profit every week since. [18-Aug-22 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its certainly easy to have down weeks when ur starting out, with lots of investment and maybe less sales [18-Aug-22 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: my expenses is more than my revenue [18-Aug-22 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Been there, lost that. lol [18-Aug-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You have been playing 2 days. Give it some time. Have a plan and work that plan. [18-Aug-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: working on the plan [18-Aug-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: OK I am sure ya will get lots of advice. For every 5 people ya ask I am sure ya will get 7 answers all good, just find whats right for you. [18-Aug-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: ok [18-Aug-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If ya can't see a bright light at the endof the tunnel after 2-3 weeks. then worry. Thats my advice. [19-Aug-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WaffulDwagoon** left.* [19-Aug-22 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aceplanes** joined.* [19-Aug-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **aceplanes**: can someone help me im new to this [19-Aug-22 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: This video series has good info: https://youtu.be/5jkQvL7xDL4?t=51 {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=51 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [19-Aug-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **aceplanes**: thanks [19-Aug-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: If you will have more questions, just ask. The community is friendly. In this game will nobody shoot you. :-) [19-Aug-22 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you can still shoot yourself in the foot though ;) [19-Aug-22 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icefeet** joined.* [19-Aug-22 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Depends on your price for PWO. :-D [19-Aug-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeekIiroz** left.* [19-Aug-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ...which depends on your price for RCO :) [19-Aug-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kapitn_cutler** joined.* [19-Aug-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lolcomig_021** joined.* [19-Aug-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN for Katoa in 5-10 minutes. Have space for 260 tons. Contact soon if you need a shipment. [19-Aug-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: Hi [19-Aug-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Greetings and salutations coolwave8. Do things look any better for you now? [19-Aug-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: nope [19-Aug-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: ships are low on fuel and no money to buy fuel [19-Aug-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if you want some advice, tell us more about your business- what's your package? which buildings did you build? what are you producing? [19-Aug-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: Fuel Engineer, base module, one pioneer hab, collector, extractor and refinery [19-Aug-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: that's 170 pioneers, and you only have one hab... consider demolishing the collector [19-Aug-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you only have 100 pioneers so your efficiency suffers badly [19-Aug-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: build another hab if you can, wait for your refinery to produce some SF, refuel and sell the rest. don't burn too much fuel for the CX trip [19-Aug-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Are both your ships at Katoa? [19-Aug-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: one is docked the other is returning from the CX [19-Aug-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: How much fuel on each? You can take fuel from 1 and place in the other and only use 1 ship till you have more fuel [19-Aug-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You must have some FF [19-Aug-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: hey @coolwave8, I'm also getting started as fuel refiner and yeah it's a bit tough... I'm just starting to make some money. try to spend as little on fuel going back and forth from CX as possible and make sure your building efficiencies are as high as possible [19-Aug-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: the docked has 527 units, the one that is returing has 168 units [19-Aug-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: and FF? [19-Aug-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: had to sell it from both ships [19-Aug-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 527 SF is more than enough for 1 round trip from Katoa to Benten STN at a good slow profitable speed. [19-Aug-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: what did you buy then? [19-Aug-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: building materials [19-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: good, build another HB!, and also HB2 if you have enough [19-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: *HB1 [19-Aug-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Are you making SF at your refinery now? How much supplies do you have left? H AMM and GAL? [19-Aug-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Also for your workers DW and RAT? [19-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: 5 AMN 8 GAL 35 DW 35 Rat [19-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: hydrogen? [19-Aug-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: With 100 pioneers that should be enough DW and RAT for a bit over 4 days. [19-Aug-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: 36 H [19-Aug-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: that's enough to make 500 SF. probably more - you still have a collector, so you can extract enough AMM [19-Aug-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: What building materials did you get and what do you intend to build? [19-Aug-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: i tink i used those materials to build the collector [19-Aug-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: i want to build another hab for the pioneers but im missing 1 BSE and 2 BBH [19-Aug-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Is your ship returning to Katoa empty then? [19-Aug-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: has 200 units of SF fuel in the cargo hold. [19-Aug-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: And 168 in the tank [19-Aug-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: yes the fuel tank has 168 units of fuel. [19-Aug-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: OK. So in total you have about 900 SF and the supplies to make about 500 more. [19-Aug-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: and not enough pioneers [19-Aug-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: How long for your next fuel to be made? [19-Aug-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: 7h 14 m [19-Aug-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: how old is your collector? what materials would you get back by demolishing it? [19-Aug-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: 21 hrs 15 BSE 59 MCG [19-Aug-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: coolwave8, you are using a FREE license correct? Not PRO. [19-Aug-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, time for decisions... :) if I were you, I'd demolish it, fuel one ship to 500SF (that's enough for 2 round-trips), fly back to CX and sell 13 of those BSEs. buy what you need for HB1. that will increase your refinery efficiency [19-Aug-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: yes free planning on buying pro license but can't untill next week. [19-Aug-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: don't sell those BSEs at bid price though. try to go a bit below ask price, e.g 1400, and wait for it to sell [19-Aug-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: but it's your business. think, plan ahead :) [19-Aug-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: And return with any needed supplies for all your workers. Then wait as long as you can so your next trip your ship is as loaded as it can be. I advise. [19-Aug-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: And go slow so you don't burn a lot of fuel [19-Aug-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I think you can manage and turn this around still, just gonna take several days. [19-Aug-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Best of luck. [19-Aug-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kewko** left.* [19-Aug-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: red numbers in the CX means buy price, green numbers mean sell price. [19-Aug-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: On the CX, red numbers = listing prices.... Green numbers = bid prices [19-Aug-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: bids will always be lower than listings [19-Aug-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DieterDerBoss** joined.* [19-Aug-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: anyone have 8 tru for sale? [19-Aug-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: make that 16 [19-Aug-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I do. do you still need them? [19-Aug-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theythemDanham** left.* [19-Aug-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship leaving Umbra with 350t free, leaving in about a half an hour [19-Aug-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***5h4d0w** left.* [19-Aug-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: Hi [19-Aug-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheGoldenShard** joined.* [19-Aug-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: hi again @coolwave8 [19-Aug-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheGoldenShard** left.* [19-Aug-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: I decide to take your advice that you gave me this morning. [19-Aug-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: OK, and how did it work out for you? [19-Aug-22 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: still working on it ship is in route to the Cx 24min untill my ship lands [19-Aug-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: good luck then :) [19-Aug-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonnyDKS** left.* [19-Aug-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***arcelo** left.* [19-Aug-22 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadMonk2022** joined.* [19-Aug-22 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***booorg** joined.* [19-Aug-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Suislide** left.* [19-Aug-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb45e74ec0d** left.* [19-Aug-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone want NS? drop me a message [19-Aug-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: got a few hundred lying around [20-Aug-22 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yellerer** left.* [20-Aug-22 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cypherlulz** joined.* [20-Aug-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saibot2** joined.* [20-Aug-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dumped a bit of RAT.CI1 down to 80ish [20-Aug-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Does anyone have 300 FF on Katoa for sale? [20-Aug-22 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JGatlik** joined.* [20-Aug-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @Balthazar if you try to buy FF for 7.8 then I don't think you will find much when cx price is around 11 [20-Aug-22 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: at that price its better to just sell mats then do FF. 2xHE3 costs 500 plus 4xH for 400 so everything below 9 is a loss of profit [20-Aug-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ahmurhama**: are there any local corps that want to invite a nooby? I just started a cpl days ago but i play often and i lean fast :) [20-Aug-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ahmurhama**: learn* [20-Aug-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell some BBH on katoa? [20-Aug-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: anyone selling AMM on Katoa? got a load of ads [20-Aug-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Balthazar**: Going 400/400 Katoa>Proxion leaving in 30min [20-Aug-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: good morning [20-Aug-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Hello @coolwave8 [20-Aug-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***merigue** joined.* [20-Aug-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: got my 2nd pioneer hab built [20-Aug-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***joe_crowley** joined.* [20-Aug-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: great! what's your refinery efficiency now? [20-Aug-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: went from 34% to 69% [20-Aug-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: still need a hab for the settlers [20-Aug-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes, but it's already double. keep making fuel, try to get hab for settlers and maybe rebuild the collector for ammonia. good luck! [20-Aug-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: best income on fuel early on is using it on shipping contracts. but you need basic or pro account for that [20-Aug-22 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: i just have the free license [20-Aug-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's harder so just make fuel for as long as you have materials and then do trip to benten station, sell all fuel and buy new batch of materials [20-Aug-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: just don't rush travel times. keep it slow. 24h travel time is ok for starters [20-Aug-22 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: ok thx [20-Aug-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's not the best time to start as fuel maker with H price so high but it still can be done [20-Aug-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: started three days ago [20-Aug-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sagaofsin** left.* [20-Aug-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snoopi** joined.* [20-Aug-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Snoopi**: Friggin 'ell this is a lot of info to take in [20-Aug-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Don't be afraid to ask for advice @snoopi [20-Aug-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: It really just feels overwhelming at first, once you get everything organized the way you want will help [20-Aug-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: how many times people go bankrupt still you get the hang of it [20-Aug-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: during first 30 days I was on the egde of bankrupcy all the time :) [20-Aug-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I lost money for the first 2 weeks but never had to restart. You need to have a plan and work the small numbers at first to make sure you become profitable. Things like speed and how often you move a ship are very important [20-Aug-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: interesting thx [20-Aug-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If you have questions ask. Mny here will help. But remember there is no golden rule on what is correct. We all play a little different and all plan a little different. But some early tricks work for all...Like selling fuel from one ship and only using the other till you have more money. [20-Aug-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I am in this game since 5 weeks now and I survived somehow. [20-Aug-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: the first 3 weeks I needed a lot of patience. [20-Aug-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: afterwards it became better [20-Aug-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yes the game is very very slow the first few weeks and trying to speed it up my moving ships too fast is a common way new players loose money. [20-Aug-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I know I blew a lot of cash flying mostly empty when I realised I needed just 1 thing after first starting, so back to the CX mostly empty my ship went. [20-Aug-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf94514f850** left.* [20-Aug-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I made very early a little excel calculation, to be able to guess the costs of a flight. [20-Aug-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Government contract: 160 PFE @ 450/u (LMA UV-351a/36673) [20-Aug-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdc6842a750** left.* [20-Aug-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: where are those gov contrs? [20-Aug-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: On the LM, that's the buffer command [20-Aug-22 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: i cant find that..or more like i dont know how to get that [20-Aug-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its just an ad on the lm [20-Aug-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueStream** joined.* [20-Aug-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meph** joined.* [20-Aug-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: hi all [20-Aug-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Greetings [20-Aug-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I see your new. This game has a lot to it so ask any questions ya need to. there are many here to help ya. [20-Aug-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: ok thx [20-Aug-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: need some advice started as fuel engineer [20-Aug-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Make 1 refinery a HB1 and a Collector. Unload all fuel from 1 ship and put on the second. Take anything you not gonna use and slowly take the stuff to the CX at Benten STN. Sell it for not bottom price and buy supplies you will need in coming days. Slowly return to your base. [20-Aug-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Make SF with H you buy, GSL you mine and aMM you collect [20-Aug-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Repeat till you are rich and find a path to grow [20-Aug-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Keep your workers fed with RAT and DW [20-Aug-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ask another 5 people and I am sure you will get 8 answers. [20-Aug-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: how slow is slow? [20-Aug-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: 24h flight time should be slow enough [20-Aug-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A few notches to the right. As you change it your time on travel goes down and fuel use goes up but it is not a linear line. So ever notch to gain speed uses more fuel than the notch before. Your choice really. But maybe 3-5 notches. The planets rotate arond the sun so never the same distance 2 trips in a row. [20-Aug-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Look at the amount of fuel and judge it for yourself. Save time=loss of money. Save money=loss of time [20-Aug-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: ok thx [20-Aug-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TornBreeze** joined.* [20-Aug-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: side note. right now start as fuel engineer is a realy bad choice. H for 175 is killing blow to starting new players [20-Aug-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: What should i have done then? [20-Aug-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you can liquidate you current company and start a new one with different starting package [20-Aug-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: try manufacturing start; it's more advanced than fuel refining, but with BMP building you have several options for producing consumable goods, and you can be more flexible. or carbon farmer- pretty straightforward, decent profits [20-Aug-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: and this planet has a bonus to manufacturing, making it even better [20-Aug-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes, carbon farmer sound good to me too, with C for 450 right now [20-Aug-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or just continue as fuel refiner- but you've been warned, it'll be tough with current prices [20-Aug-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Now there is the delema. What will the pries of H C and H2O be next week. lol [20-Aug-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: like you said Grandpa, too many advices :D [20-Aug-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yup. Ask 5 people, get 8 answers. [20-Aug-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: going to switch to manufacturing then [20-Aug-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueStream** left.* [20-Aug-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is huge increase in H production but it still didn't lowered H price. Number of workers on CB-282d, local H mining hub, went from 8,5 to 12,6k during last 4 weeks [20-Aug-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Sounds like more private deals must be happening. Likley with the new personalized contracts. [20-Aug-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: because of SF price month ago I think that half of the players have fuel refineries right now :P [20-Aug-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeaPear** deleted this message.* [20-Aug-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueStream** joined.* [20-Aug-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: for manufacturing which buildings should i build [20-Aug-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: BMP and HB1 [20-Aug-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: INC and another HB1 if you can afford it [20-Aug-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: H2O will always be around 20 [20-Aug-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CHOAM invested quite a bit, a large freighter and a full rig base on EW a that will only ever service the CX [20-Aug-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: built 2 HB1 BMP and INC [20-Aug-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Therefore, C should only be driven up by demand - not inputs (assuming a C producer is also somewhat vertically [20-Aug-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: integrated [20-Aug-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: H is the challenge [20-Aug-22 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CHOAM can’t solve everything for you ;) [20-Aug-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @BlueStream browse the recipes in BMP and choose something; everything should be profitable right now. easy and safe: MCG. risky: OFF [20-Aug-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: But DAD, I WANT I WANT I WANT NOW NOW NOW PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. [20-Aug-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueStream**: it looks like the only thing i can make is PE [20-Aug-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Hm, and you will need to buy H for that, go figure. [20-Aug-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: do not try to be self-sufficient. you can buy the materials in CX. e.g C + H -> PE, + RCO -> OVE [20-Aug-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or just buy LST and SIO [20-Aug-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Whatever you do you will need to buy and sell. You pick. [20-Aug-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I don't think any player can be self reliant on all inputs for their entire operation. [20-Aug-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: WANTED: Regular supply of NS. I need 20-25 per week and am willing to trade more consumables or other goods or even CIS for a renewable weekly contract. PM for queries. [20-Aug-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** joined.* [20-Aug-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: i've been eyeing a second base just for hydrogen, and it seems more urgent now [20-Aug-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @KitRedgrave same here but I just ran the numbers and looks like starting a new base on CB-282d with 1 HB1 + COL would cost ~$300k at current market prices... long way off for me lol [20-Aug-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Don't forget to include your RAT/DW/OVE into that pricing [20-Aug-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: and shipping costs on getting the H back here [20-Aug-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I went for Umbra since it is close even if far less productive. Means the STL fuel I make is good for shuttling between it and Katoa. [20-Aug-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueStream** left.* [20-Aug-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I did the same, fuel cost is negligable with the price of H being what it is [21-Aug-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbb28330a88** left.* [21-Aug-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: true, thanks for the input! [21-Aug-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ktosik4** joined.* [21-Aug-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NerfOli016** joined.* [21-Aug-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac93949380** left.* [21-Aug-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bazkizz** left.* [21-Aug-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jon1** joined.* [21-Aug-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Benten STN with 450 space for added shipments. Will be well under 1 day delivery. Anyone need shipping? [21-Aug-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: 425 space now [21-Aug-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Have to depart. See all next trip. [21-Aug-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***demnicat** joined.* [21-Aug-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: STREAMING soon on TWITCH. Topic today is playing without joining a Corp. Guest speak RNGzero. Come join to listen, ask questions or critique by operation. Hope to see you soon. I am Grandpa Canuck on TWITCH. [21-Aug-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Start in 2 1/2 min [21-Aug-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user788bf2c649** left.* [21-Aug-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yuggoth** joined.* [21-Aug-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChemMasta** joined.* [21-Aug-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KVIcon** joined.* [21-Aug-22 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flotschi35** left.* [21-Aug-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BAKY** left.* [21-Aug-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone need anything shipped to EW? Got 450t free [21-Aug-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***talisson_prado** joined.* [21-Aug-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wilburh** left.* [21-Aug-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: thanks for the insight @neke86! [21-Aug-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It'll take a while to [21-Aug-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: get enough resources for another base... but it can be worth it. Just depends what you want out of it [21-Aug-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: yeah as soon as I looked into it I knew it was a long way off. REF just sitting idle until H comes down or my ship makes it back in 4 days :( [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Umbra a very attractive choice for H right now. The cost of putting down a 500-area base on CB-282d is about 1.9m CIS at the moment, assuming you can even find the materials. With a few experts, paying for shipping, and a 30-day ROI payback, H would need to be sold in the 120-150 range. You can setup a base on Umbra for far less, cheaper and more readily available shipping. Don’t get blinkered into just calculating max extraction rates especially if you don’t have the capital to lay down full size projects. [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: keeping up with exporting from a gass giant is a lot of transport without larger cargo bays [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: guys what do wee need to setup a base in umbra? [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: oh nvm i see [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Stuff for a core... Umbra is an MCG planet... nothign exotic [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: k thanks [21-Aug-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Where did your ship go that's four days away? [21-Aug-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd8936ed69a** left.* [21-Aug-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that seems like a long ways off [21-Aug-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've just put up 375,000 CIS worth of Carbon buys (1,200 units in total) with a varying price curve against delivery. All payments up front, delivery any time in the contract period. Hoping to get these cleared over the next 24 hours :D [21-Aug-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also, if you're really struggling with fuel refining, instead of competing in a saturated market against massive players why not fill the horrifying gap in prefabs? even purchasing FE off the CX, then importing cheap LST from UV-796b LM (40-50/unit) or UV-072c (45-70/u) you'll be flipping a profit and controlling your own building costs. [21-Aug-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or go into Carbon? People complain about it a lot but it has one steady and reliably priced input (H2O.CI1) and you could make money off it even if dropped to the market maker of 225/u (especially if you have one FP making your RATs alongside INC inputs) [21-Aug-22 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hell, you can just get started with FRMs given the prices RCO and HCP are trading at, and then expand from there to your own INCs/FPs eventually [21-Aug-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: C, HCP, RCO, RATs, all of these things would sell right here on the LM and wouldn't even need transporting. [21-Aug-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you ask the right people, you can even get water delivered here! [21-Aug-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Which frees up your ships to earn 5-10k per trip hauling [21-Aug-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Tread lgihtly in the RAT trade... wouldn't want to muscle anyone out of my "distrabution" area [21-Aug-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: ;D [21-Aug-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I see the price has softened a bit, but it keeps fluctuating [21-Aug-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anything over 40 is great [21-Aug-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: iirc [21-Aug-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: especially vertically integrated [21-Aug-22 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: guys when is a good timing to start expanding your first base? [21-Aug-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: as in, building out the first base? [21-Aug-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: some players don't expand the sizeof their first base and instead settle bases on other planets [21-Aug-22 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pipeweed7** joined.* [22-Aug-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd be filling out my first base tbh [22-Aug-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: servers going down in 7 minutes [22-Aug-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UncleBocephus** joined.* [22-Aug-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Yes get those CB-282d contracts as long as they are still there, 3000m3 ship is incoming on my side. will still post in the future but maybe not as often as now. [22-Aug-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 200 units of H.CI1 listed; I'm not a producer, had to move that from Antares so price is high but still better than 200 [22-Aug-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: would you take 130/u? [22-Aug-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fecksu** joined.* [22-Aug-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @karr1981 PM me for some small amounts of H [22-Aug-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user323cc705fc** left.* [22-Aug-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yehaw** joined.* [22-Aug-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Byggis** joined.* [22-Aug-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: hey @neke86, really appreciate your thoughts, thanks! my ship is 4 days out because it's around a 2d trip one-way to AI1 where H is reasonably priced lol. I'd love to diversify outside of fuel but I don't have the funds to respec... I'm considering COLIQ but would prefer not to if I can help it. can't take shipping contracts because I'm on the free license but I'm considering upgrading. I'll look into the trade routes you suggested, thanks for the tips! [22-Aug-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rogervergespizarro** left.* [22-Aug-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: thankfully I picked up a little H at BEN so my REF has something to do while I secure more supply [22-Aug-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lundrad** joined.* [22-Aug-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cattopewpew** joined.* [22-Aug-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tugnut** left.* [22-Aug-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **coolwave8**: Hi all [22-Aug-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hey there [22-Aug-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will fly Katoa > Betnten Station, starting in 1h, 340t free. [22-Aug-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Savion** joined.* [22-Aug-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I realize I just reached a stable point with my company. So it seems like my patience paid out. :-) [22-Aug-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yippy! congratulations. [22-Aug-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wqfles** left.* [22-Aug-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mrmfm** joined.* [22-Aug-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DukeBad** joined.* [22-Aug-22 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: @bavell in case it hasn't been said, you only have to pay for PRO once to do shipping, and when it times out you will fall back to a BASIC license which still allows accepting LM contracts (ie. shipping) [22-Aug-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shawng2003** left.* [22-Aug-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bleek** left.* [22-Aug-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ElasticFox**: 340m3/450t space available to ship from BEN to Katoa. Whos needs supplies [23-Aug-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: looking for 6 C pm me [23-Aug-22 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Any FEO miners out there? [23-Aug-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I could cook some up on Geidi Prime [23-Aug-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Is there some place for corporation advertising? I mean, I am not sure if it is worth to join one. But I am still interested to learn more about the existing ones. [23-Aug-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeadBanana** joined.* [23-Aug-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @DasRallum UFO discord [23-Aug-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah ok, thank you [23-Aug-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rutu132** left.* [23-Aug-22 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ayanami** left.* [23-Aug-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: in 2h I will go from Benten Station to Katoa with 400t free. It will be fast trip. Post ad if you need anything moved [23-Aug-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: well the H bubble crashed H.CI1 [23-Aug-22 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's only ~600H before we are at 150 again [23-Aug-22 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I can assure you, the H bubble is very much intact :-p. my 500 H lasted a total of 10min on the market at 149. [23-Aug-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: someone is making big bucks :-P no doubt [23-Aug-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I mean as neke already said, it's probably a good idea to set up an H base on umbra atm. When H starts coming down at some point you can retool it to a chem base of your liking. [23-Aug-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone have 15 BBH? Ad posted on the LM [23-Aug-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***louix.meltdown** left.* [23-Aug-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***21002070** left.* [23-Aug-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VictorAmorim** left.* [23-Aug-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @xiq good to know! ty [23-Aug-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: out of the H.CI1 frying pan and into the AMM.CI1 boiler [23-Aug-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Easy enough to make your own AMM on Kat. [23-Aug-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: thankfully I've got my own supply but sure wish I had a nice stockpile to unload [23-Aug-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: My spreadsheet now says making STL fuel is a loss maker if I was going by market prices rather than being self-sufficient. [23-Aug-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: yeah it's brutal out there, hopefully we see some price stability soon [23-Aug-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: AMM.CI1 seems like a low volume very temporary proposition, but what do I know I'm new [23-Aug-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: definitely a bubble but yeah I'm too new to know how long it'll last... can't imagine long with those margins [23-Aug-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: BTW this market PVP is brutal, I thought EVE trading was interesting, this game is really nice [23-Aug-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: yeah I'm really liking the economic sim MMO aspect [23-Aug-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I'm just glad I was already diversifying before the margins disappeared. [23-Aug-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: yup, glad I just built my second COL [23-Aug-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: fuel market has certainly been interesting. Been good for the traders buying the cheap SF [23-Aug-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: and bringing it to Ant and Mor [23-Aug-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: I was thinking about making those trade runs but... idk how long the price difference will last [23-Aug-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Mor and Ant are thirsty for fuel [23-Aug-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: I can't be the only one and I need cashflow more than profit rn [23-Aug-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: fuel market just reversed itself during last month or so. Last month we had SF for 15 and realy cheap mats so half of the server build fuel refineries but materil production didn't expand as much [23-Aug-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: @Bavell same here its because we are too new [23-Aug-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well if you can spare a ship for a few days I believe it is worth it to make the trips [23-Aug-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Thoern, not on Katoa tho... Katoa has been full for the last month [23-Aug-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: @Grandpa_Canuck @RNGzero good tips and talk on twitch the other day thx for the introduction to the game [23-Aug-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Thanks. I think I will do a weekly stream like that [23-Aug-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: really liking the community here so far [23-Aug-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Thinking next topic will be about upgrades for the started ship [23-Aug-22 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it was really fun [23-Aug-22 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: very interesting how players develop differently [23-Aug-22 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @Grandpa_Canuck I'd watch that [23-Aug-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: @Bavell I would recommend it, for me it was iluminating on the possibilities of development [23-Aug-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: before ship upgrades... ships and ship parts were strictly late game [23-Aug-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If anyone wants to watch it you can find that stream on TWITCH. look it up through me or just the game. It will stay up for about 2 weeks. [23-Aug-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: now there are viable mid-game options [23-Aug-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @Thoern I picked an interesting time to start as a fuel eng lol [23-Aug-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: me too! :D [23-Aug-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @Grandpa_Canuck @joe_crowley thanks, will do! [23-Aug-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @joe_crowley we shall struggle together lol [23-Aug-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: going to link the VOD in case anyone want to see it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1568568582?filter=archives&sort=time {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1568568582?filter=archives&sort=time Playing not in a Corporation. Guess speaker RNGzero. Questions welc... grandpacanuck went live on Twitch. Catch up on their Prosperous Universe VOD now. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4eUd9POawty3kD9U3epq2KEDxFWxM6Oe0Leh-1sNoqE/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/cf_vods/d1m7jfoe9zdc1j/78ad29a90997ae3a21e4_grandpacanuck_40103476841_1661102801/thumb/thumb0-640x360.jpg [23-Aug-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: lots of good info for newer players [23-Aug-22 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It broke into 2 vids as my software crapped out part way through [23-Aug-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: thanks guys! [23-Aug-22 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: of all the planets I'm on (not many) katoa is by far the most active [23-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: you mean in chat? or overall? [23-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: chat... Proxion's chat was wild during the last election tho [23-Aug-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: between the starting agriculture planets... proxion isn;t that popular [23-Aug-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: BTW @RNGzero having 4 bases in 117 days is impressive. and without pro account. nice job! [23-Aug-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: soon to be 5 bases [23-Aug-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm settling my 3rd tomorrow [23-Aug-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah.. I've done quite well without PRO [23-Aug-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: lots of opprotunity to be had out there [23-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: been trying to convince Grandpa_Canuck to give Deimos a try as well [23-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can always pick-up the base at a later time if it doesn;t work out [23-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: Deimos is really good. round trip katoa->deimos->katoa takes about 3 days [23-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the trip isn;t bad... but opening up more trade options is nice [23-Aug-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: logistically it's a challenge [23-Aug-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I've been runing my 4 bases with 1 ship.. the other is just out there trading [23-Aug-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it hobbles back to Ben/Ant eventually xD [23-Aug-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I hope to get WCB upgrade soon, that'll make it easier [23-Aug-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah! ...would love a MCB or WCB... [23-Aug-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the Large Emitter is pricy as well [23-Aug-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes. though LFE.NC1 price seems decent, I just got one today [23-Aug-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that isn;t bad for an LFE [23-Aug-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Ant has one for LFE.AI1 [23-Aug-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rhzovin** left.* [23-Aug-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Urgent shipping AD up, would be happy if someone can take it. 5k for 2.75t ;) [23-Aug-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Darn, I left 10 min ago with space for that [23-Aug-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: yeah I'm an idiot. forgot a small thing I need really urgent. shit happens [23-Aug-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user14faa06457** left.* [23-Aug-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Holy hell, look at that stack on H2O.CI1 at exactly 20 CIS [23-Aug-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: ppl already bought up my 1.5k @ 19cis [23-Aug-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: It'll be a bit before I get out there again and dump some at lower than offer [23-Aug-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hot top... Moria is looking for H20.NC1 [23-Aug-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hmm. H2O.NC1 [23-Aug-22 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20 is a solid price [23-Aug-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it is... but Moria is in the 30s. Could make some decent trade credits [23-Aug-22 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: however... there isn't much on Moria back to Ben. for profit atm [23-Aug-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there is [23-Aug-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: MCG.CI1 MCG.NC1 [23-Aug-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I wouldn't trust it...Ben. drops MCG fast [23-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: CX to CX trading is a game of musical chairs... I wouldn't want to be left without a seat when the music stops [23-Aug-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kik4s** left.* [23-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: huh, random question... does it take less fuel and time to land at a base that's somewhere with lower gravity? that seems like it could be a big deal for some business models [23-Aug-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: traveling from a station to a planet is less fuel.... but from a planet to a station takes more because the ship needs to overcome the planet's gravity [23-Aug-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: some planets have more/less gravity... so that could factor into fuel costs.... but I believe it's mostly a differnce in repair costs [23-Aug-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ferrandusqui31** joined.* [23-Aug-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user38e38d199b** left.* [23-Aug-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Got a ship leaving for Umbra in ~1hr with 450t free [23-Aug-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KennyJ** joined.* [23-Aug-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IncarnatePotatoe** left.* [23-Aug-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tethra** joined.* [23-Aug-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xman2006** joined.* [24-Aug-22 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackHack** joined.* [24-Aug-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BanFSOG** joined.* [24-Aug-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BunBao** left.* [24-Aug-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **m991**: TD [24-Aug-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN shortly. Have space for 180 tons/275 m3 if anyone has shipments. 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[25-Aug-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: answer is as always 'it depends' :). You will save some $ by doing that, but at the same time maybe you will earn more by just expanding your fuel production. You need to do calc yourself [25-Aug-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: diversifying is always an option [25-Aug-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: not really. Having 4 expert in one main production is much better then 1 in 4 lines [25-Aug-22 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you can't really be self-sufficient. build FP- now you need farms... build farms- now you need water. and OVE, etc to supply your growing population. you've solved your food issue by creating a few more issues ;) [25-Aug-22 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if you really want to make your own food, there are planets better suited for it [25-Aug-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taco_suave** joined.* [25-Aug-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd say grab the FP and just buy the agriculture inputs off the market you need [25-Aug-22 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: no need for a FRM but it'll save you quite a bit instead of buying RATs [25-Aug-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: RAT prices in Benten went up again.. and it's going to be a longtime before that 4th expert shows up [25-Aug-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: as I already told....'it depends'. you will get 4 answers from 3 ppl you ask :) [25-Aug-22 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Exactly! Which is why I provided my thoughts on the matter as well as reasons supporting it. [25-Aug-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: expanding fuel production for a player 12 days into the game may not be wise considering the current prices. An FP reducing expenses would do well [25-Aug-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I agree that it's really bad time to start as fuel eng. [25-Aug-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but I still think that you should not diversify too much in a base [25-Aug-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: going to be a long road before H is back down below ~100/u [25-Aug-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: for players with more time and resources.... sure... but newer players don;t hjave much of a safety net if things don;t work out [25-Aug-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but if you are new player you can just start from a fresh start in different route [25-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: for example C farmer sounds great right now with C at 400+ [25-Aug-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: very true. I'd just rather newer players learn and make as many mistakes as possible before COLIQ... So they are better prepared for their next start (if they do restart) [25-Aug-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: i started as a carbon farmer that also grew my own RAT, DW, COF from CAF when i can get it,.. then i started making SF as a side hustle and it's easily my biggest earner [25-Aug-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Farming right now (both carbon and Rations) is very appealing in Benten [25-Aug-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: or at proxion, which is even better [25-Aug-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hopefully @Knuckles2095 has enough information to make an informed choice now [25-Aug-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hmmm... Moria still in drought... H2O.NC1 [25-Aug-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @knuckles2095 as you see ask 5 people and you get 8 answers. Please try to adapt and not restart. Find the path that looks good for you. There is no set best way. Just find one that at least makes a little coin and move on. [25-Aug-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taco_suave** left.* [25-Aug-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lundrad**: hey guys, how do you expand to a second planet? [25-Aug-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you need to expand your HQ to lv 2 and then you can make new base [25-Aug-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lundrad**: its my 4 or 5 day here and i am thinking about a future second base. Katoa is my main base right now [25-Aug-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lundrad**: thank you thoern, it seems to be a little expensive for me right now, but i can plan it slowly analizing the options [25-Aug-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @Lundrad. Good plan. [25-Aug-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: np, there is also cost of the base construction. It depend on environment of the planet [25-Aug-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Starting players have 2 permits... so upgrading the HQ for another isn;t mandatory [25-Aug-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lundrad**: despite the materials or the materials for buy the base depend of the enviroment? [25-Aug-22 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lundrad**: oh so i can have a 2 base right now then @RNGzero? [25-Aug-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if you have the resources to do so... sure. Permits have other uses as well that you may consider first [25-Aug-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: such as expanding your first base to 750 area or keep it unused to improve your faction's modifier [25-Aug-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: new bases are expensive though... [25-Aug-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @Thoern 'As always, it depends' Are you Attorney Tom?? [25-Aug-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it depends :p [25-Aug-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: touche lol [25-Aug-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: :D [25-Aug-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: but no, I'm not [25-Aug-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: My mom used to say I should be an attorney the way I argued when I was a kid. Maybe I should identify as an attorny. LOL [25-Aug-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KalashRu** joined.* [25-Aug-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MidasPL**: Can confirm that starting as FP right now is hard, but actually I'm starting to finally get some profits. Although from what I've noticed, you can just simply not care about production and play the market. [25-Aug-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yup, trader can be considered a valid starting profession [25-Aug-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***brekokrys** left.* [25-Aug-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***assassinmonkey** joined.* [25-Aug-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ALO available on Geidi Prime, two shiploads [25-Aug-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: gone [25-Aug-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khaoss** joined.* [25-Aug-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lopliok** joined.* [25-Aug-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duck3608** joined.* [25-Aug-22 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: about to fly BEN>KAT with 200m3 free if anyone wants to put up something to ship. ill take any price, just trying to be efficient [25-Aug-22 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rohan032j11** left.* [25-Aug-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***indep** joined.* [25-Aug-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: patience expiring.. departing imminently ;) [25-Aug-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBossDG** joined.* [25-Aug-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gabe1111111111** left.* [25-Aug-22 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigSam** joined.* [26-Aug-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Good morning [26-Aug-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** left.* [26-Aug-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** joined.* [26-Aug-22 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JaceTheBlu** joined.* [26-Aug-22 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Glowe** left.* [26-Aug-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Torciq** left.* [26-Aug-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Captin_planet** joined.* [26-Aug-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Small but urgent Oxygen order on the LM, can anyone fill 20? [26-Aug-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: offering 200/u [26-Aug-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bananadan4** left.* [26-Aug-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ferrandusqui31**: Hello [26-Aug-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Hello :-) [26-Aug-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BanFSOG** deleted this message.* [26-Aug-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lodiz** left.* [26-Aug-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lukas_3007** joined.* [26-Aug-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mario13219** left.* [26-Aug-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xxW00fxx** joined.* [26-Aug-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowThorn** left.* [26-Aug-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user796d3d62b7** left.* [26-Aug-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sucripino** left.* [27-Aug-22 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: @neke do you have any TRU for sale by chance? [27-Aug-22 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: or anyone for that matter lol [27-Aug-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeathRoamz** joined.* [27-Aug-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alt278** left.* [27-Aug-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Freight contract from BEN to KAT up, added pay since it's a urgent shipment. [27-Aug-22 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Awesome thanks ^^ [27-Aug-22 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Will get it there for ya. [27-Aug-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not as cheap as the CX [27-Aug-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sorry, I have TRU here on Katoa, but I'd not part with them for as cheaply as you can buy them on the CX [27-Aug-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Seems to be a disconnect between AL and TRU pricing [27-Aug-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OUQUO**: Hello there, anyone interested in joining a corporation? FIO Corporation is looking for new companies to join our ranks. If you are willing to cause, or If interested in joining PM me or join our discord and read through our #welcome channel πŸ™‚Β https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [27-Aug-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lolcomig_021** left.* [27-Aug-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heronn** left.* [27-Aug-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mirage_NA** joined.* [27-Aug-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mirage_NA** left.* [27-Aug-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mirage_NA** joined.* [27-Aug-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banglaboy09162** joined.* [27-Aug-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khendon** joined.* [27-Aug-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadMonk2022** left.* [27-Aug-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***booorg** left.* [27-Aug-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving soon from Katoa for Benten STN. Have 205 open space. Contact me is you want shipping. [27-Aug-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cuild** joined.* [28-Aug-22 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** joined.* [28-Aug-22 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell some 6xBDE on Katoa? [28-Aug-22 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: Any1 awake here :) [28-Aug-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: nvm i.m ok now [28-Aug-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***godddd** joined.* [28-Aug-22 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm in the market for 180 PFE, if anyone is interested in delivering that here on Katoa within three days, please drop me a dm :) [28-Aug-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Government contract, 800/u for delivery <72h. [28-Aug-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yahia** joined.* [28-Aug-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liquidmack** joined.* [28-Aug-22 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saibot2** left.* [28-Aug-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're interested in cheap LST closer than the CX, please check out LM UV-072c. 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[28-Aug-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch Starter Ship Upgrades-Come All questions on game items welcome. Noobie questions welcome. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9ZOIjsOXdpEwjXExk_-L4aO1z5EFJd7pD1KJJ0QoaxM/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/db4cdf84-4d72-4c90-9932-cd5ef5aa577f-profile_image-300x300.png [28-Aug-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: STREAM over, thanks all who watched. [28-Aug-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TornBreeze** left.* [28-Aug-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone interested in bidding on an MFL before I take it to market? [28-Aug-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Taking bids by DM, Vickery auction :) [28-Aug-22 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ducky124** left.* [28-Aug-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RiftWalker** joined.* [28-Aug-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DangerousMarker1010** joined.* [28-Aug-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anybody have 2 BBH? add up [28-Aug-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** deleted this message.* [28-Aug-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: COOLIQ FIRESALE! [28-Aug-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: Draxzter [28-Aug-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I messaged you [28-Aug-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Proxion in 10-15 minutes. Have 60 tons open for shipment. Contact me if interested in booking it. [29-Aug-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @Crackerjack685 I have a lot of TRU for sale on Katoa. How much are you looking for? [29-Aug-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlickeringIRoam** joined.* [29-Aug-22 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: could anyone tell me what the permit things is in the base screen? [29-Aug-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you can add up to 2 more permits to a base to get another 250 area for each [29-Aug-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: and what does area do? [29-Aug-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: and do you have to pay for the permits? [29-Aug-22 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: all your buildings occupy some area you start with 2 permits and to get more you have to upgrade your HQ [29-Aug-22 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: ok thx [29-Aug-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you can also place new bases on other planets with permits [29-Aug-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: which will get you a 500 area base [29-Aug-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BanFSOG**: I've discovered that i am, in fact a moron [29-Aug-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BanFSOG**: Doing stuff for a whole week not noticing that i have half the capaciity a need for my workforce [29-Aug-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BanFSOG**: Damn [29-Aug-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***doctors_HATE_him** joined.* [29-Aug-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cenaris** left.* [29-Aug-22 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ANNOUNCEMENT: I would like to inform all that I now am making GENs and have completed my first sale. A new GEN will be available about every 10-12 days. Contact me if interested in purchase or trade possibilities. [29-Aug-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***breisbrenny** joined.* [29-Aug-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***crazytowncrazy** joined.* [29-Aug-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackTheJackhammer** joined.* [29-Aug-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackTheJackhammer** left.* [29-Aug-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackTheJackhammer** joined.* [29-Aug-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2ba7033af8** left.* [29-Aug-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DopeCalypso** joined.* [29-Aug-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***N1kolai007** joined.* [29-Aug-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***veryfight4** joined.* [29-Aug-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useracdb6ef9d0** left.* [29-Aug-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **veryfight4**: this games learning curve is a cliff eh? [29-Aug-22 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: hehe yeah, there is a lot to learn. But I think if you are patiant enough it alos tolerate some little mistakes [29-Aug-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Learning curve is high, but start is really slow. Dont worry. [29-Aug-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: but how do you use the permit to get a second base? [29-Aug-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You need an unused permit first. Then look at the planet information you want the new base on. There must be an open plot. You will see a yellow button on lower right to start the base and see the requirements that must be in place to make the new base's hub. [29-Aug-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arod1204** left.* [29-Aug-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***starswordsg1** joined.* [29-Aug-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jon1** left.* [29-Aug-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **veryfight4**: so if im understanding the beginning right the first monthish is gonna be selling raw rss at a pittance to eventually afford prefabs for a construction line? [29-Aug-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **veryfight4**: production line not construction [29-Aug-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Relatingcone3** joined.* [29-Aug-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbc4cc016fe** left.* [29-Aug-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user267edca818** left.* [29-Aug-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SKPNeon** joined.* [29-Aug-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: @veryfight4 if you have a pro lic. but with a free account it can take a couple of months [29-Aug-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Take your time on the cx, don't just sell at whatever the highest bid amount is, it's okay for your auctions to sit for a couple days [29-Aug-22 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Can you reset your profile? [29-Aug-22 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***glitchhappens** joined.* [29-Aug-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap fuel on the LM. [29-Aug-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***talisson_prado** left.* [29-Aug-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orbiter_** left.* [29-Aug-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SmittyVentures**: I am not sure how long this message will be on here, but I wanted to thank each of you I have dealt with on this game. It has been fun hanging out with ya'll chatting. I am COOLIQing cause my IRL company is growing and needs more of me. Enjoy this awesome game and hopefully one day will be able to come back. [29-Aug-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: GL out there @smitty [29-Aug-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmittyVentures** left.* [29-Aug-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ElasticFox**: 400m/380t available, about to run from Ben Station back to Katoa. Throw up a con if you need anything shipped. Leaving in about an hour. [29-Aug-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***diyumowang8** joined.* [29-Aug-22 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TYKUHN2** joined.* [29-Aug-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grimgamer3456** joined.* [29-Aug-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pipeweed7** left.* [29-Aug-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InItForCash** left.* [30-Aug-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maffrejal** left.* [30-Aug-22 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have an idle ship at ben flying to katoa. Whole cargo bay is empty. i ship for free. send me shipping contracts and i will fill the first i receive up until the ship is full. [30-Aug-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: what is the quickest way to look for potential planets to build another base on? [30-Aug-22 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: likely https://fio.fnar.net/planetsearch or https://aeryen23.github.io/yapt/#/planetsearch [30-Aug-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: planets that need MCG and/or SEA are the easiest to settle. The others get expensive quick [30-Aug-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user85be0e558c** left.* [30-Aug-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: but why? [30-Aug-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/building-costs/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/building-costs/ Building costs :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [30-Aug-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: The extra construction materials add up quickly. That'll tell you how many of each you'd need per building then check the prices for each on the market [30-Aug-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: what if the, for example pressure, is in the middle? [30-Aug-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if the pressure is within normal range, than a building material isn't nessicary to make the base/building habitable [30-Aug-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that goes for each of the planetary conditions... but at minimum MCG for rock and AEF for gas giants are needed [30-Aug-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: ok thxs [30-Aug-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: A planet requiring INS alone will add ~15k to each building's cost [30-Aug-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Thats why I ended up building a PP3, to make my own INS. [30-Aug-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc7ac47e72f** left.* [30-Aug-22 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm just avoiding planets requiring INS. I'm not giving into the vicious INS <-> AR cycle xD [30-Aug-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: The market price for INS is more than double the cost of its materials. Surplus makes me money, what I use saves me money. [30-Aug-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: but that leads to you settling INS worlds... thus you'll never be able to give up the INS/AR habbit [30-Aug-22 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I need RAT, DW etc too (which I also make for myself), whats a bit more? [30-Aug-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: INS is practically required to extract some resources though [30-Aug-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I started as a fuel producer, but the margins are getting low enough I'm tempted to just walk away from it. [30-Aug-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: we'll see who an weather this market as a fuel producer. I expect quite a few to get out [30-Aug-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm just sitting on 1 REF for personal consumption... so it hasn't be bad (with H from Umbra) [30-Aug-22 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I build a 4th when there was high prices, but recycled it. Still have 3 refineries going atm though. [30-Aug-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm considering 1 REF on Umbra as well... since I'm using NAB [30-Aug-22 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I make AMM and GAL on Katoa and ship it to Umbra to refine using the H extracted there. [30-Aug-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that works! i just needed more area on Katoa instead of EXTs [30-Aug-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Are all Katoa plots gone until people leave/COLIQ? [30-Aug-22 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: As I know, yes. Only new players get an overlap space as far as I know [30-Aug-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user94ff6333c8** left.* [30-Aug-22 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordbreaker** joined.* [30-Aug-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: @Nicster why for free? [30-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordbreaker**: Hello. In order to add fuel to my ships, do I just need to drag the fuel to the inventory? [30-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordbreaker**: The cargo of the ship [30-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: nobody wants a free shuttle from ben to katoa? [30-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordbreaker**: Nevermind, I found the fuel tab. [30-Aug-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordbreaker** joined.* [30-Aug-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: because i am a generous person :-D. i mostly ship to the CX and don't want to fly back empty and want to help out other people [30-Aug-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: so if you have something to ship, just send me a shipping contract for 1 CIS [30-Aug-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Big_Black** joined.* [30-Aug-22 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TxCowboy** left.* [30-Aug-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ruckus202X** joined.* [30-Aug-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yehaw** left.* [30-Aug-22 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ElasticFox**: .. hmm.. sounds like a scam. Nothing in this Universe is free. Whats your game?! Spill it!! 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[30-Aug-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: This universe is not cold or indifferent. It harsh but welcoming, and as the Governor of Katoa I welcome you, you've landed well. [30-Aug-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Drop me a line if you have any questions and I'll do my best to help, or connect you with other players that might be able to! [30-Aug-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArmchairBob** joined.* [30-Aug-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: He's the best governor in the universe. [30-Aug-22 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChazSimpleton** joined.* [30-Aug-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: And he does not pay us to say that. He has helped me several times, so do ask him when you need to. [30-Aug-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: anyone making PSL? [30-Aug-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @DrMambo might interrupt whatever hes doing for the right price [30-Aug-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: @Grandpa_Canuck you have an eta on BEN to kat by chance? [30-Aug-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: no. I am about to leave Katoa for Proxion shortly. Next Ben to Katoa will be a day away. [30-Aug-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: ok [30-Aug-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Oh, have a ship in to Benten STN in 14 hrs. I have not yet set where it will go. [30-Aug-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I could do Katoa for 8-12 from there. [30-Aug-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: ur good i was just curious yougrabbed one of mine from there earlier [30-Aug-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: just doing a little planning [30-Aug-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @Crackerjack Yours is the only one I have at Benten STN right now...Will likely be to Katoa in 26hrs or so. 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[31-Aug-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: to sustain supply and keep a lid on pricing [31-Aug-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yeah problem is not all are big producers, and i think some have left / moved into other fields [31-Aug-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im workign to recruit more now [31-Aug-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: but my RL biz is keepign me quite busy atm [31-Aug-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: well even then the demand is crazy for C im nearing producing 1k a day and i still cant keep up with people i know let alone the CX [31-Aug-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hackerzrul**: C production is all broken [31-Aug-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThatWontFitOwO** joined.* [31-Aug-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Quite a few players just buy what they need off the market [31-Aug-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaliDualGoddess** joined.* [31-Aug-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** left.* [31-Aug-22 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xman2006** left.* [01-Sep-22 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd5ab02ad43** left.* [01-Sep-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArcturusTruth** joined.* [01-Sep-22 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusTruth**: Is there a way to completely reset the tutorial so the tasks popup again in order? 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Vote for me, I've kept accidental deaths to a minimum for months now and plan to keep it low. Not zero, obviously that's not possible, but very low. [01-Sep-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***astraya_** joined.* [01-Sep-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: slow orders today for CI1 [01-Sep-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: if you need it fast, match an existing offer/request [01-Sep-22 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Why this sentences with "accidental" death sounds like a threat? XD [01-Sep-22 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's not a threat, it's a promise! [01-Sep-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will be bringing 150 CAF to Katoa in a few days time, I've put up LM ads in batches of 50 at 600/ea. Will be doing this from time to time, and could also arrange occasional batches of HCP (160/u) or RCO (550/u) [02-Sep-22 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Divirex** joined.* [02-Sep-22 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cardensuric** joined.* [02-Sep-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dat1nelightskin** joined.* [02-Sep-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: From time to time I will need RCO. But atm I am good for several days. [02-Sep-22 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I usually have some on hand, not much though [02-Sep-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I usually try to have around 100 RCO in stock for COT production and can also spare some if needed [02-Sep-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I will also take the RCO off your hands :-) [02-Sep-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lubexx** joined.* [02-Sep-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: How hard is it to sell GAL? [02-Sep-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***breisbrenny** deleted this message.* [02-Sep-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: wrong button haha GAL.CI1 [02-Sep-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davin** joined.* [02-Sep-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: I'm not making GAL so grain of salt but it didn't look as easy to profit from vs AMM or O [02-Sep-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Linkyle** left.* [02-Sep-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If brought to Moria or Ant, you'll get a better price [02-Sep-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KalashRu** left.* [02-Sep-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone managing FTL ship builds on Yannick? id like to discuss buying one [02-Sep-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Can you sell/buy other peoples ships instead of heading to a shipyard yourself? [02-Sep-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: No [02-Sep-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spaceman14** left.* [02-Sep-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I built a 2k-2k ship on Yannick a month ago [02-Sep-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: no you cnt but some people manage the produciton of al lthe parts etc into a basic building service [02-Sep-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: how much was it xensored? [02-Sep-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: how much would you expect to pay for that? [02-Sep-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***u10** left.* [02-Sep-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zep147** joined.* [02-Sep-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***daniel.serrano25** left.* [02-Sep-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: You can get most of the parts on ANT just count them together. I made some parts myself like BR1, CQM, SSC and had sources within corp….so my costs are different. But no problem to buy the parts and put them together on Yannick. But I would always prefer to build the ship on a planet with shipyard where you have a base like for example Proxion, Etherwind or Ementior. Because then you can fill it with fuel immediately from your base and fly away. [02-Sep-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: FYI I am making GENs now. A lower upfront cost for engines. IContact me is any interest. They are made on Katoa but I will deliver to Proxion or Benten sTN. [02-Sep-22 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raven-62** joined.* [02-Sep-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Raven-62**: what do i do? [02-Sep-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Watch the tutorials [02-Sep-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: This video series helps a lot: https://youtu.be/5jkQvL7xDL4?t=42 {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=42 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [02-Sep-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***assassinmonkey** left.* [02-Sep-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Anyone have some HAL for sale? I can pick it up from different planet [02-Sep-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: @Thoern check COM :) [02-Sep-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yetAnotherCompany** joined.* [02-Sep-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yetAnotherCompany** left.* [02-Sep-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yetAnotherCompany** joined.* [02-Sep-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JellyDoughnut** joined.* [02-Sep-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KotHN** left.* [02-Sep-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lopliok** left.* [02-Sep-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Anyone in Katoa able to loan 33k CIS for building materials to expand production? It's for another EXT, REF and HB1 :) [02-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Should be able to start making returns within days and payout in ~2wk and can pay interest [02-Sep-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you have extra fuel from starting, you could sell 1/2 to help save for expanding [02-Sep-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I've gone through most of it and now I've started using FTL fuel [02-Sep-22 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Selling GAL+RAT soon STL+RAT but I want to get production going a bit faster [02-Sep-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: wait... in 4 days you've used most of that fuel (without selling any)? 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I'm a heretic using NAB on Katoa [03-Sep-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GuardianK** joined.* [03-Sep-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fenix160** joined.* [03-Sep-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ThreeEyedMagpie**: Anyone here I can talk to about getting a weekly supply of FEO? [03-Sep-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GenericBread** joined.* [03-Sep-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khaoss** left.* [03-Sep-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***garlando1994** joined.* [03-Sep-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dgox** joined.* [03-Sep-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: You can look at the FEO orders on cx to see who sells and contact them [03-Sep-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: H2O.CI1 DW.CI1 [03-Sep-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: Yeah. What is up with that? [03-Sep-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yup.. drought from Moria has spread to Ben and Hortus [03-Sep-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the traders siphoned H2O from Hortus and Benten... but those CXs didn;t have enough to satisfy Moria [03-Sep-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: now only Antares has decent supplies of H2O on the CX [03-Sep-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: Its stuff like this that makes me love this game :D [03-Sep-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: If H2O was extracted from the Benten CX, should that not be visible in the amount of orders? Ie. Going up drastically [03-Sep-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Maybe neke is having a break from supplying H2O to cx [03-Sep-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: maybe some sell orders were cancelled and moved to moria [03-Sep-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there's no real spike in traded volume [03-Sep-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: quite a few players saw this coming... and raised their prices pre-emptively just like Antares did [03-Sep-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: How we see how many stop buying and made personal mass warehouses of H2O. [03-Sep-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I was part of the traders bringing H2O to Moria... the 4k H2O I took over from Benten felt like throwing a bucket on a wildfire [03-Sep-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: then I turned around and brought Moria RATs to a starving Benten xD [03-Sep-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A true capitalist there RNGzero [03-Sep-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ebb and flow. Over time a new universal balance will be found. [03-Sep-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Indeed! I had business in Moria anyways... so things just happened that way [03-Sep-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: we should supply our workers with stillsuits instead of PWO :D [03-Sep-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chat_Volant** joined.* [03-Sep-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well, I think lawn watering will be banned and swimming pools closed anyway. [03-Sep-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: So you're saying... "pool's closed" ? What a shame [03-Sep-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: when pools start cooking swimmers... they better close xD [03-Sep-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Outlawing washing and laundry could happen too. [03-Sep-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Gotta make em use less water somehow. [03-Sep-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: blow up some storages with H and O [03-Sep-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well, everyone enjoyes a good explosion. It may keep them happy over all the other things. [03-Sep-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm expecting the number of bases on Eitherwind to increase [03-Sep-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpyGeorg** joined.* [03-Sep-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiritwo** left.* [03-Sep-22 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***L0Heek** joined.* [03-Sep-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***milesswgrc** joined.* [03-Sep-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’d been working to keep Benten water cheap but we won’t be able too anymore especially if we’re just sending it to Moria. New water is coming in but the pricing will be higher [03-Sep-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @neke86, you have DM [03-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CarlVon** joined.* [03-Sep-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sekercin** joined.* [03-Sep-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user24791c41de** left.* [03-Sep-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xxW00fxx** left.* [03-Sep-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BingWinger_The_Brave** joined.* [03-Sep-22 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ph0sph0rus** left.* [03-Sep-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duck3608** left.* [03-Sep-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: How to I cancel a trade order? [03-Sep-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: CXOS [03-Sep-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vollix**: thank you [03-Sep-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: gives you a list of you own Commodity Exchanges Orders [04-Sep-22 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: At 30CIS, H2O is about the worst thing I could use spare land for on Katoa, so the price will need to go up for it (or maybe the new upgraded ships will haul it around from more efficient locations). [04-Sep-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: H2O on Katoa breaks even around 24/u, however H2O is fairly easy to transport in-mass. If I do put up a rig (or two) on Katoa.. I'm not sure if it'll have time to ROI before this drought ends or enough water is transported in. [04-Sep-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That seems like a very low b/even cost [04-Sep-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***suckLULU** left.* [04-Sep-22 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will pay market rates for the COGC MCG ago be filled, please donate direct and I’ll send cash :) [04-Sep-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: You can't make me ask you for money!!!!! [04-Sep-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoistSlabOfMeat** joined.* [04-Sep-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SecretShinobi** joined.* [04-Sep-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: damn it you’re right [04-Sep-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: a loop hole on my [04-Sep-22 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: in my plan! [04-Sep-22 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Checked in Prunner about H2O on Katoa which says 16.8/u is breakeven (nearly zero profit). Taking the opprotunity cost of the consumables... it would be 18.97/u of H2O. [04-Sep-22 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Labor cost of 1 pioneer (9.3) * rig pioneers (30) = 279 credits/day to operate a rig for 24h. 279 / 14.7 H2O/day (100% eff.) = 18.979/u [04-Sep-22 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: of course... cost of consumables matters a lot in this case... so I used CX ask prices. [04-Sep-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah of course nice [04-Sep-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: what about building repairs [04-Sep-22 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and the opp cost of not making anything else [04-Sep-22 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that's up to the players to decide if it is worth it. (I don't think it will be, but I could be wrong) [04-Sep-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Its why I have mixed feelings about the expert system. Having 5 v 1 or 0 makes a massive impact on profitability. [04-Sep-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: with etherwind so close I don't think that extracting H2O on Katoa is agood idea. There are a lot more profitable options here [04-Sep-22 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 204 MCG contributed. should I send you a contract @neke86? [04-Sep-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes please [04-Sep-22 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JammyDobbie** joined.* [04-Sep-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dendavid** joined.* [04-Sep-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VaZZoN** joined.* [04-Sep-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: hey all. need 2 BBH. Any1 can sell? [04-Sep-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: ? [04-Sep-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VaZZoN**: Hey guys, I am new to this game :D [04-Sep-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: hey :) welcome [04-Sep-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there! [04-Sep-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Benten STN shortly. Have volume open of 240 for shipments if anyone interested. [04-Sep-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell 1xBBH??? [04-Sep-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VaZZoN**: Is there any detailed tutorial on this game? Wiki doesn't help much [04-Sep-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: there are videos [04-Sep-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If you look on top right, at help, there should be a link [04-Sep-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @VazzoN in a empty buffet type help [04-Sep-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Also people here are very helpful. So if you have any questions, just right them. [04-Sep-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: What is general cost to create same ship provided in starter package? [04-Sep-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: about 2-3 million [04-Sep-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: ships without FLT engines are 600k to 1m or more depending on the STL engine and other goodies [04-Sep-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: no1 have 1xBBH on katoa to sell? [04-Sep-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A GEN engine is cheaper [04-Sep-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: FYI I make them. Next one available in 3 days. [04-Sep-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Someone surely has a BBH on Katoa... they just my not be on atm [04-Sep-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: @bojidar008, I think its easier if you put up a contract that people can see. [04-Sep-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: ok, if I am loosing 1 percent durability of ship then I losing around 20-30k [04-Sep-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Can ship be repaired [04-Sep-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: yes, do it before it reaches 80%. thats when it really hurts [04-Sep-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: How it can be repaired? [04-Sep-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: Early repairs are often repaired with BHP only, so if you repair in time, it is not that bad [04-Sep-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So aquire BHPs have them on the same planet as the ship. [04-Sep-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: BHP to repair a ship cost ~2k and repair ~2.08% damage each [04-Sep-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Ohk. how much 1 unit of bhp repairs? [04-Sep-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Click in the ships transponder number in the FLT report [04-Sep-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: got it [04-Sep-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: really depends on supply vs. demand tho [04-Sep-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: ohk 1k for 1 percent around [04-Sep-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Needs to repair will be listed and if you have the supplies the option to repair will be there [04-Sep-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Got it. Thanks [04-Sep-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: You have to be careful though. It will cost the same to repair from 99.999% as 98.5%. So you want to time it [04-Sep-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: different destinations have different conditions... so some trips damage ships less than others [04-Sep-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Agreed. Wait till you need 4-5 BHPs [04-Sep-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: May be weeks if you travel little in safer areas [04-Sep-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 have 1xBBH on katoa to sell?i have ad on [04-Sep-22 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My weekly STREAM on TWITCH starts soon. Todays topic--H2O:Crisis or Opportunity. Discussion. Noobie questions welcome. Come join https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream once or twice daily with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9ZOIjsOXdpEwjXExk_-L4aO1z5EFJd7pD1KJJ0QoaxM/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/db4cdf84-4d72-4c90-9932-cd5ef5aa577f-profile_image-300x300.png [04-Sep-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: should be fun [04-Sep-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***landeks** joined.* [04-Sep-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***josh_1VBCZWQ** left.* [04-Sep-22 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banglaboy09162** left.* [04-Sep-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My stream is over. If you missed it and interested seeing the video look for it here--- https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Thanks to all who watched/connected and listened. {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch H2O:Crisis or Opportunity. Discussion. Noobie questions welcome. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9ZOIjsOXdpEwjXExk_-L4aO1z5EFJd7pD1KJJ0QoaxM/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/db4cdf84-4d72-4c90-9932-cd5ef5aa577f-profile_image-300x300.png [04-Sep-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joe_crowley**: Couldnt be for all of it, but thx it was really interesting [04-Sep-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Katoa for Proxion soon. Space open for over 250 is ya need a shipment. [04-Sep-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Johnny_Balls** joined.* [04-Sep-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tarvagus** joined.* [04-Sep-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I had to dip early as well @Grandpa_Canuck, but it was a good stream! [04-Sep-22 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it was fun! [04-Sep-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cuild** left.* [05-Sep-22 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 300 ALO available. Price is whatever's @neke86 is charging usually :-) [05-Sep-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***godddd** left.* [05-Sep-22 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: heh whatever you like, haven’t sold any in weeks [05-Sep-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: okay let's say 90/u [05-Sep-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TJunkie** joined.* [05-Sep-22 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yahia** left.* [05-Sep-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DominicTorreto** joined.* [05-Sep-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***maxtiang** left.* [05-Sep-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fudster** joined.* [05-Sep-22 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xYzI**: I am just out of RAT at my base, when will the satisfaction update? [05-Sep-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fudster**: hello all [05-Sep-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spontaneous-Nonexistence** left.* [05-Sep-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: @xYzl 24 Next time they try to consume the consumable. 24 hours after the last consumable [05-Sep-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: consumption ticks once per day, or when you change something in your base, e.g build something [05-Sep-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dawikzard** left.* [05-Sep-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xYzI**: thanks [05-Sep-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fudster**: does this game take a long time to build wealth when you are just starting out ? [05-Sep-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It depends. Some style of play are more efective than others [05-Sep-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: https://youtu.be/X3FGxS5DeQM?t=25 {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3FGxS5DeQM&start=25 Prosperous Universe - The Secret Profession to Quick Wealth What if I told you a world, where work that would take weeks... can take days? Arbitrage Scanner: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1llgYSnuOyaD4tjlkzM33e3PNeS6zRbeC6N3C_se43Z0/edit?usp=sharing Join our Discord at Nascent Merchantile: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/61v47Gf88f5SEAHk6jKlu4IUDjebaBWxtEbDaklZNa4/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/X3FGxS5DeQM/maxresdefault.jpg [05-Sep-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Destructor2461** left.* [05-Sep-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jonathon** joined.* [05-Sep-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell 1xBSE plz? [05-Sep-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: have ad on [05-Sep-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1? [05-Sep-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: plz help me 1 by 1..not all together same time :)..though still need 1 BSE [05-Sep-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lobbyh** joined.* [05-Sep-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cranc** left.* [05-Sep-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FM-00z** left.* [05-Sep-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Hi, I'm heading to Benten CXL, I have empty ship [05-Sep-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Am I the only one that gets annoyed when the LM is flooded with low ball buy orders? [05-Sep-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: dont look at the LM [05-Sep-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @joekingdom --Ya annoying. I mean if it is to another player deal then use a contract. Do people honestly believe others will fill those lowball ads? [05-Sep-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: I'm going to BEN CXL shorty, the ship is empty. Btw I just got PRO licence. If you do contracts does it gives REP for LM? 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Have 220 tons/360 m3 available for shipments is anyone interested [05-Sep-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gasrat** joined.* [06-Sep-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RocketRidah** joined.* [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: How can you bring up PSI for your own site [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell only 46xMCG plz?really need [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Sure! [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: by clicking on the globe in PLI UV-351a but why would you ever need it? [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: not what i meant but it's fine doesn't matter all too much haha [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: i have ad on on Katoa..plz 46MCG needed [06-Sep-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Check your dms :) [06-Sep-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I can sell you some [06-Sep-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah, breisbenny was fast I guess? [06-Sep-22 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlickeringIRoam** left.* [06-Sep-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***doctors_HATE_him** left.* [06-Sep-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheShyWalrus** joined.* [06-Sep-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Someone was even faster on katoa local market haha [06-Sep-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***crazytowncrazy** left.* [06-Sep-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: For sale or trade: one GEN. Available at Katoa in 18hrs. Message me to make an offer. [06-Sep-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: can barely comprehend the fact that you even made a GEN [06-Sep-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Why? [06-Sep-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: i was joking i'm a week into PU haha [06-Sep-22 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have 134 days in [06-Sep-22 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You will get there to bigger projects. This game takes time [06-Sep-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I'm aware, it's a grind :) [06-Sep-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You wanna see my operation I have TWITCH streames the last 3 weeks on Sundays. Look over the video and see what i have and do with it. [06-Sep-22 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I've seen you talking about it [06-Sep-22 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My operation is small compared to the active players with 300 plus days in [06-Sep-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I've only got EXT FRM and FP going prod wise [06-Sep-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Selling RAT+GAL atm [06-Sep-22 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well, I was not much different when I started with a Refinery [06-Sep-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Haven't even got a REF at the moment [06-Sep-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: progress is slow won't have the money to buy the construction parts for a few more days [06-Sep-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You dont need one, fuel is cheap right now [06-Sep-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: so im just sittin garound [06-Sep-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: yeah [06-Sep-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I got a FRM + FP instead when I saw SF.CI1 prices [06-Sep-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: There is a lot of "Hurry up and wait." in the early game weeks. [06-Sep-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Aware and it sucks haha [06-Sep-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: looking for someone who can make BRS, DM me [06-Sep-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordbreaker** left.* [06-Sep-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noxpor** joined.* [06-Sep-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedoOfStanley** joined.* [06-Sep-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackTheJackhammer** left.* [06-Sep-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc80c5704a0** left.* [06-Sep-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: RAT.CI1 [06-Sep-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My next GEN is ready in 8 hours. I am taking bid and trade offers now. PM if interested. [06-Sep-22 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tethra** left.* [06-Sep-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***luckyjman** joined.* [06-Sep-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tethra** joined.* [06-Sep-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2ba1e7b50b** left.* [06-Sep-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grimgamer3456** left.* [06-Sep-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm putting out to tender an upgrade of the Safety Station to level six. If you might be interested in supply the building materials please drop me a line. The project is here: POPID p-UV-351a t-SST [06-Sep-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm not looking for cheap or heaviily discounted materials, jsut someone to sort out the whole build at roughly the price I could do it for. 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But for the POPI if you wish to be reimbursed please contact me first to ensure the supply is not already arranged. [07-Sep-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Current open POPI tenders include: STR (up to 50), UTS (at least 20) and PFE (up to 300) [07-Sep-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: leaving from Katoa to Umbra in 30 minutes with 400t empty space [07-Sep-22 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chamuel** left.* [07-Sep-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thoern, did you start already? [07-Sep-22 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will put some contracts on LM [07-Sep-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ah no. Sorry. I just read Umbra [07-Sep-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok :). I will start in 5 minutes [07-Sep-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN -> Katoa if anybody wants anything [07-Sep-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: 482t/482m3 left [07-Sep-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: send a pm [07-Sep-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Feonor** joined.* [07-Sep-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alfku06** joined.* [07-Sep-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Could someone with a base in Umbra can sell me 120 SF at Umbra? [07-Sep-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: This is the Katoa site owners [07-Sep-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Ask Umbra site owners [07-Sep-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: I cant access that channel and since a lot of people have base here and there I asked here [07-Sep-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: COMG pl-uv-351c [07-Sep-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: or not [07-Sep-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: That's odd [07-Sep-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: is fuel a good industry to get into? [07-Sep-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: at the moment... not really [07-Sep-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can certainly profit as a fuel engineer... but there is a lot of fuel on the market currently [07-Sep-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: i see, well i might just start up a side hussle until its the big hit [07-Sep-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I just run 1 Refinery myself... quite enough for running around the system. [07-Sep-22 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: what is a good market to get into then? [07-Sep-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Aside from fuel.. most do manufacturing here. Farming is fine as well.. but not great compared to dedicated argiculture worlds. [07-Sep-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: k, thanks [07-Sep-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Textiles is fairly easy to get into and it doesn't look like demand is going to be met anytime soom. [07-Sep-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: thanks for metting me know, thats what i was thinking to get into, and that just confirmed it [07-Sep-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: letting* [07-Sep-22 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: textile fluctuates but generally is quite consistent. [07-Sep-22 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: II have a weaving plant running 24/7 just becasue of those fluctuations. I was happy to just buy but fluxuations two months ago made me build a WPL just to keep my manufactuing lines going. [07-Sep-22 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: ill get one going to get in on the market [07-Sep-22 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Keep an eve on prices in other stations too. The price delta is unusually large. If I could afford to sell what I make I'd move it around to take advantage of that. [07-Sep-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alfku06**: k, ill keep that in mind [07-Sep-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Big_Black** left.* [07-Sep-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kubu_84** left.* [07-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: FOR SALE: One GEN, available at Katoa. Private message with bid or trade offer. [07-Sep-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Gotta be making bank selling those this is the second one I've seen in the past few days from you [07-Sep-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: This is the same one. I make 1 every 8-10 days right now. I have bid on next one but no one has sent me a proper bid yet on this one. I will send it to Benten STN tomorrow for listing is no trade/buy offer by then. [07-Sep-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***McFriendly** joined.* [07-Sep-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hope that goes well! [07-Sep-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ElcidBarrett** joined.* [07-Sep-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Euven** joined.* [07-Sep-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I think the time for GENs is already over. Just built a STL ship but of course with FSE engine because that is the best one. I assume nearly everybody will use FSE for their ships. GEN is slow and costs a lot of fuel. [07-Sep-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: But there're still some bids on MOR for them I see, but you'll need to produce everything yourself to meet the price [07-Sep-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: what's the difference production wise [07-Sep-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: The cost of a GEN is about half of a FSE [07-Sep-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So for fist time buyers it makes their first ship purchase a little bit more affordable sooner. [07-Sep-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well a lot less than half really [07-Sep-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: A ENG is 3 times the expense of a GEN and a FSE 4 times. [07-Sep-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: In corp the price for a FSE is 250k, then you'll buy a FSE ;) [07-Sep-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Is that an internal price? I know some corps have a much higher listing for outside corp players. [07-Sep-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: sure, ship building is internal in most cases [07-Sep-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I don't expect to sell to corps making ships...I expect to sell to smaller operators. [07-Sep-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So far I have a sale and a order for a future unit when the player can afford it. So different market of players. [07-Sep-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: before ship upgrades you would go straight for FSE I guess, but now it makes sense to start with the cheaper engine [07-Sep-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It is all options available to the individual players situation. A GEN is an entry level product. [07-Sep-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Corp prices are good.. but there is also wait time involved as they are made to order. [07-Sep-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: But if you want to use your ship a lot especially in system, you'll have really a lot more fuel costs with a GEN after short time [07-Sep-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: with a GEN.. they are cheap enough to keep in stock [07-Sep-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: True RNGzero. And this one is available right now. [07-Sep-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Fuel is cheap in Benten area [07-Sep-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: GENs have their uses... as not everyone is in a corp nor have the million or so they're askign for them [07-Sep-22 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: an engine made of glass? dang. someday i'll afford one [07-Sep-22 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: for FSE* [07-Sep-22 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @RNG I don't agree on "cheap enough to stock". I took for example responsability for LFE in corp and keep 10 LFE in stock. And a well organised corp has most ship building parts available in stock or in less than 3d [07-Sep-22 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: btw, anyone knows when can I buy BRS for stl ship? [07-Sep-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: *where [07-Sep-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @Thoern I used my last BRS a week ago. But I could make you one [07-Sep-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: LFEs are about the same price as GENs anyways [07-Sep-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sound great [07-Sep-22 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Will take some time, because UPF is occupied with TCU, CQM, BR1, HABs first [07-Sep-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok, I can wait a bit. What will be the price? [07-Sep-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thoern** deleted this message.* [07-Sep-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I can do it for 160k [07-Sep-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok, I will send you contract [07-Sep-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I make it here on Katoa, pout it into the queue, will be ready in 12d [07-Sep-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: *put [07-Sep-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: If you find one in the meantime, no problem to cancel the contract. I can just kepp it in storage [07-Sep-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure, I will let you know [07-Sep-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: ok [07-Sep-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @xensored what would be your FSE price for outsiders? [07-Sep-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: I don't produce FSE [07-Sep-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bawbandit** joined.* [07-Sep-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taiz** joined.* [07-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Anyone from Icarus Legion here? [07-Sep-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: whats wit all the stupid 1cis LM orders? isnt that what Private contracts are for? [07-Sep-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: It's the same with all the low prices buy orders on some planets for corp players to fill (no other will do for that price). Useless LM fillers .... [07-Sep-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Last call for BEN Station to Katoa [07-Sep-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: got 470t left [07-Sep-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: also sending Katoa to BEN now too [07-Sep-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maurogaido2014** left.* [07-Sep-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tanis_the_wise** joined.* [07-Sep-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oblip21** joined.* [07-Sep-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want an SSL before I send it off to market? [07-Sep-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 45K on Katoa [07-Sep-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DelosDHarriman** left.* [07-Sep-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I want it. [07-Sep-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Give me 2 hrs, [07-Sep-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: i am just going out and will return shortly. [07-Sep-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChazSimpleton** left.* [07-Sep-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jmcraptor**: Got 500t going from Umbra to Katoa in 30min. Pm if you want anything shipped. [07-Sep-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***diyumowang8** left.* [07-Sep-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2094ca5d14** left.* [07-Sep-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***profileNamesAreBoring** joined.* [08-Sep-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SSL all yours gramps [08-Sep-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yello** left.* [08-Sep-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station -> Katoa and Katoa -> BEN Station leaving at 2200 (UTC), contract or PM 450t available each way [08-Sep-22 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I did send you a contract for 60t. It's my first direct shipping contract. [08-Sep-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: As soon as you've provisioned the shipment I'll have it picked up [08-Sep-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Both ways leave at 2200z and will arrive in 12h [08-Sep-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: You need to close the contract first [08-Sep-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: my shipment is not urgent. So if you want to safe fuel, you can take your time. [08-Sep-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: A direct contract, as I did send to you, need to be closed (akzepted) first. Afterwards I can provide the shipment. [08-Sep-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ElasticFox**: 270m/390t space available from BEN to KAT. Throw up a Con if you need anything moved back, and ill scoop it. Prob leaving in a few hours [08-Sep-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: breisbrenny, i just realized, I did a mistake with the destination in the first contract. That's why I did send you a second one [08-Sep-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Shippinhf from Katoa to Katoa doesn't make sense.... or it's just easy money XD [08-Sep-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhostTownCowboy** joined.* [08-Sep-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhostTownCowboy** left.* [08-Sep-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user85c7c83924** left.* [08-Sep-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***breisbrenny** deleted this message.* [08-Sep-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station -> Katoa (383t/383m3 remains) today 2200z [08-Sep-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Katoa -> BEN Station (450t/450m3 remains) tomorrow 1200z [08-Sep-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Open a contract with me, will close before or at 2200z :) [08-Sep-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I did send you another small one [08-Sep-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: it's only 18t [08-Sep-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Send whatever you want :) [08-Sep-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I'm running these every couple of days, one in each direction [08-Sep-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chankopek** left.* [08-Sep-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station -> Katoa (383t/383m3 remains) today - dep. 2200z/arr. ~0800z [08-Sep-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Pay what you want, 1 CIS or 1000 :) just open the contract with me [08-Sep-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Katoa -> BEN Station (450t/450m3 remains) tomorrow - dep. 1000z/arr. ~2300z [08-Sep-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would any locals be able to sell me 200 AMM on the cheap? I need to make our own REA>PFE to fill the PAR POPI as I've been unable to buy it for weeks. [08-Sep-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station -> Katoa is gone [08-Sep-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***breisbrenny** deleted this message.* [08-Sep-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah the market on CI1 is currently a bit broken [08-Sep-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Posted it, saw that, deleted it [08-Sep-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: haha [08-Sep-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap :) [08-Sep-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Wish you luck! [08-Sep-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sorted thank you! [08-Sep-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Station departed, Katoa -> BEN Station (450t/450m3 remains) tomorrow - dep. 1000z/arr. ~2300z contract me and I'll accept in the morning, pay what you want :) [08-Sep-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Correction* 350t/416m3 [08-Sep-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kadaire** left.* [08-Sep-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morphine** deleted this message.* [08-Sep-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dimjulskur** joined.* [09-Sep-22 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: looking for someone who can produce 50BHP in about 2 weeks time [09-Sep-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll procure STL and get it done, but I’ll need to check where pricing is at [09-Sep-22 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok, send me DM with price and I will make contract for it [09-Sep-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jonrod** joined.* [09-Sep-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aeren551** left.* [09-Sep-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: A last call for Katoa -> BEN Station (350t/416m3 remains) [09-Sep-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***breisbrenny** deleted this message.* [09-Sep-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Contract me, any price, any weight. [09-Sep-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: ^ gone next runs 11/09/2022 feel free to put jobs in please assign 5 day delivery though :) [09-Sep-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: 50t left for the next run though to the Station (11/09) [09-Sep-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***miguedark5555** left.* [09-Sep-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BiddySlayer** joined.* [09-Sep-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Anyone have 4 UTS.CI1? [09-Sep-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TwstdK9** joined.* [09-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: Im selling BBH and BSE on local market btw [09-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I will look [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Can you do 8 BBH? [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: I have 2 orders of 4 [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: BBH [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: at the same price [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: ah see it [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: i wasnt sure how many people need/want [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Check PM :) [09-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: I also have 9 BDEs if anyone wants to buy [09-Sep-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I took 4 BBH. If this was here 2 hrs ago I would of taken a lot more, but I bought a bunch at the CX then. [09-Sep-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: ah im sorry just decided to sell them im making more atm [09-Sep-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: No problem...my loss not yours lol [09-Sep-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: yea :( was at work 2 hours ago [09-Sep-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: im also just getting back into the game [09-Sep-22 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It is terrible when real life interferes with your gaming career. lol [09-Sep-22 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ajm896** joined.* [09-Sep-22 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Is someone able to supply 4 BBH with terms on the credit though, need them asap but need a day or two to pay [09-Sep-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArmchairBob** left.* [10-Sep-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dat1nelightskin** left.* [10-Sep-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9e1a25d21** left.* [10-Sep-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unsore** joined.* [10-Sep-22 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThatGuyAgain359** joined.* [10-Sep-22 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lolmuele** joined.* [10-Sep-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lolmuele**: wtf is this bro [10-Sep-22 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Space, the final frontier [10-Sep-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **akatham**: Where noone can hear you screem [10-Sep-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nox-iv** left.* [10-Sep-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rejuice** joined.* [10-Sep-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Can anyone do 4xBBH @ 1490 CIS a unit [10-Sep-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lolmuele**: hbkdyvbhkfydhbkydvhbkydvs [10-Sep-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: yeah [10-Sep-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Katoa to Station shipments, Contract me, any price, any weight. [10-Sep-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Katoa -> BEN Station (450t/450m3 remains) leaves 11/09 - dep. 2300z/arr. ~1000z [10-Sep-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station -> Katoa (380t/210m3 remains) leaves 11/09 - dep 2300z/arr. ~1000z [10-Sep-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kipieslim** joined.* [10-Sep-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lolmuele** left.* [10-Sep-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.KatPie** joined.* [10-Sep-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kushkat** joined.* [10-Sep-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoblePierre** joined.* [10-Sep-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tanum** joined.* [10-Sep-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera55d92e07b** left.* [10-Sep-22 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raven-62** left.* [10-Sep-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: anybody produce BCO here? [10-Sep-22 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: maybe.. but it's unlikely considering FS are metalury buildings and there isn;t any local CU/CUO around Benten [10-Sep-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: saw CXOB then that makes sense [10-Sep-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: market prices are broken haha [10-Sep-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can make BCO [10-Sep-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: drop me a dm [10-Sep-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slibye** joined.* [10-Sep-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station -> Katoa (380t/210m3 remains) leaves 10/09 - dep. 2300z/arr. ~1600z [10-Sep-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Katoa -> BEN Station (450t/450m3 remains) leaves 11/09 - dep 1630z/arr. ~1000z [10-Sep-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Moving early :) [10-Sep-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: ben sts -> kt today 11pm utc, contract me any price [10-Sep-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ConvelTenebris** joined.* [10-Sep-22 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aedis** joined.* [10-Sep-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yezzed** left.* [10-Sep-22 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Anyone able to sell me H at the moment? My current contract supplier is...unenthusiastic. [10-Sep-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Knaju** joined.* [10-Sep-22 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: ZenWhisper. I have sent you a PM. [10-Sep-22 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Thx [10-Sep-22 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pixeldeath799** joined.* [10-Sep-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Urbanto** joined.* [11-Sep-22 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skyking_eric** joined.* [11-Sep-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skyking_eric**: Hi everyone :) [11-Sep-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hey there [11-Sep-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedEye659** joined.* [11-Sep-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you are new, this video series helps: https://youtu.be/5jkQvL7xDL4?t=41 {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=41 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [11-Sep-22 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skyking_eric**: Thank you! [11-Sep-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETHANDUPUIS** joined.* [11-Sep-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koshkasa** joined.* [11-Sep-22 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POsted lots of shipping BEN > KAT [11-Sep-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCheezels** joined.* [11-Sep-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: If you lower the rating I'll take a few :) [11-Sep-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: 430t/450m3 free [11-Sep-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Theoretical-Theory** joined.* [11-Sep-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user688268b35e** left.* [11-Sep-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Katoa -> BEN Station (450t/430m3 remains) leaves today - dep 1630z/arr. ~1000z [11-Sep-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Contract me, any weight, any price [11-Sep-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Can also offer full 500t to Umbra or out of system, pm for details - price is negotiable, sadly not any price ;) [11-Sep-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: stability rating could not be any slower [11-Sep-22 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shionsniper** left.* [11-Sep-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GuardianK** left.* [11-Sep-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fenix160** left.* [11-Sep-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pacosis** joined.* [11-Sep-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***garlando1994** left.* [11-Sep-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rimu** joined.* [11-Sep-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpyGeorg** left.* [11-Sep-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: could someone spare 3x AL for me. I put ad for 1750 (585ea) [11-Sep-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***L0Heek** left.* [11-Sep-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: if nobody can, can ship from cx check pm :) [11-Sep-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: thx for the rescue [11-Sep-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dovis** joined.* [11-Sep-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: UV-351 to XH-594 500t, leaving soon pm [11-Sep-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crazy-Dave** left.* [11-Sep-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sekercin** left.* [11-Sep-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Two emergency fab purchases up on LM (20 BBH, 20 BDE) paying over market, need immediate fill :) [11-Sep-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same for 350 MCG [11-Sep-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: MCG done [11-Sep-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you [11-Sep-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted for Oxygen as well [11-Sep-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: my logistics a shambles this morning [11-Sep-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: shipping to cx from katoa [11-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gilgamesh_the_Unwise** left.* [11-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BingWinger_The_Brave** left.* [11-Sep-22 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***acidplay** joined.* [11-Sep-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HydraulicPress** joined.* [11-Sep-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMurderUnicorn** joined.* [11-Sep-22 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ACreativeUsername** joined.* [11-Sep-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SuperPancreas** joined.* [11-Sep-22 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QrazyAbc** left.* [11-Sep-22 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Wanted 2 SAR per week. Can trade or buy if well priced. Message direct if interested. [12-Sep-22 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SecretShinobi** left.* [12-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Drop @pantalaimon a dm [12-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: he may be able to help [12-Sep-22 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JammyDobbie** left.* [12-Sep-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CarlVon** left.* [12-Sep-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tiszr** joined.* [12-Sep-22 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobbyCarDay** joined.* [12-Sep-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ccccchris** joined.* [12-Sep-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bananone** joined.* [12-Sep-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ElasticFox**: Have an empty Ship 500/500 at Moria Station, if you need anything hauled back to KAT. Throw up a Con [12-Sep-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PepeIsLepen** joined.* [12-Sep-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jonasty** joined.* [12-Sep-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfd9d42b328** left.* [12-Sep-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***empty100101** joined.* [12-Sep-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***A-Corporation** joined.* [12-Sep-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Johnny_Balls** left.* [12-Sep-22 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **johnclark**: I have 3 BBH, 6 BDE, 4 BSE and 1 BTA if anyone is interested [12-Sep-22 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: New drastically reduced tax package going to run for a while. Electronics Engineers (aka anyone farming EDC) will be paying, along with adjusted manufacturing tariffs modelled on the cost of employee maintenance. [12-Sep-22 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoistSlabOfMeat** left.* [12-Sep-22 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Saw notif :) [12-Sep-22 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't know how sustainable it will be given how expensive all inputs are, but I'll give it a week anyway [12-Sep-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: im burning cash rn expanding so every little helps, don't mind if it goes back up and i don't think many others will, you're a giant contributor to katoa basically running every project [12-Sep-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone here running more than 12 BMP and be interested in leasing them to me for a bit? [12-Sep-22 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would supply materials and pay labour+margin [12-Sep-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: what are you lookin to do @neke86 [12-Sep-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: borrow someones BMPs to process items for me [12-Sep-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so I can play catch up [12-Sep-22 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: turn 150 CLI into 50 I [12-Sep-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: i can help with that [12-Sep-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: awesome [12-Sep-22 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Does anyone have 5 to 14 TRN rdy at hand? [12-Sep-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just put 282 on the CX :) [12-Sep-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nothing local sorry [12-Sep-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: ok, np [12-Sep-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm keeping steady supply on CI1, cheapest public market rates in the universe :) [12-Sep-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for SFK, MFK, TRN, SWF and occasionally MWF [12-Sep-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: planning to get in smelting business too, just forgot the get TRN for PT this time [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Someone able to do payment terms on 28 BSE [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Smelting here on Kat? [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: no no, in Kiruna [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: surely Kiruna is full of smelters [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: I've been running ships up there [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: it is [12-Sep-22 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: not that bad though [12-Sep-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crackerjack685**: so full of smelters its causing global warming lol [12-Sep-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Heating up entire universe is one of the solutions in Stellaris, quite fun to mess up everyone when you have political power of Senate [12-Sep-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Who needs green environment when you can have more factories. [12-Sep-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: thats the spirit [12-Sep-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakejakejake999** joined.* [12-Sep-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Hello all Katoans. It has been my privilege to govern this fantastic planet for the last six months. In that time we have massively expanded the infrastructure, grown the population, and stabilised it at a healthy level. In the same time frame CI1 has become a major CX, often offering materials that NC1 doesn't have and illiquidity events for major consumables are now rare thanks to our investment in players and commodity pipelines. Katoa is now a stalwart manufacturing hub with a thriving set of secondary industries (Carbon, Fuel, Electronics, Smelting). However, I have things coming up in the real world in the next weeks that mean I'll be playing PrUn far less and so I will be looking to hand over the seat of Governor to someone to carry on maintaining the rich legacy we've built together. [12-Sep-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We have 16 days to find a replacement for the next election, which will give me a good week or more to do a live hand-over and transition. [12-Sep-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Although I haven't been here long, you've done an excellent job with the place as governor! [12-Sep-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kushkat**: Agreed, another newbie here - thanks for getting the planet up and running [12-Sep-22 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unfortunot** joined.* [13-Sep-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: You did really a great job. You, along with two others, are the reason that I was patient enough to stay with this game despite the very slow start :-) [13-Sep-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJAK.** joined.* [13-Sep-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thank you Neke for all the help and support [13-Sep-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: in 3h I will fly from Katoa to Umbra with 400t of free space. Post ad if you need anything moved. Flight time will be around 8-10h [13-Sep-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: Always been impressed by the way you help Neke. How much work (hours a week? shipping capacities?) is needed to be gov of Katoa? [13-Sep-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamoDragon** joined.* [13-Sep-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apatxe** joined.* [13-Sep-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marine307**: i think we should patition to the devs to get a neke statue on KAT gov buildings [13-Sep-22 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: fr [13-Sep-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: oh wait they're leaving [13-Sep-22 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you for the kind words :) [13-Sep-22 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Being governor isn’t THAT time consuming. Most of the hard work and relationships are now established. @Pantalaimon supplies niche electronics for the POPI. Marine307 supplies SUN, and I can do OFF. DW will need to be obtained at some scale. COGC is relatively easily filled by the population if you offer to pay which saves you tracking down MCG/PE/RAT/DW but it sometimes needs you to sort it yourself. I always struggle a bit with STR and UTS, but I have my own infrastructure to supply [13-Sep-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the governor with UTS, STR, OFF. [13-Sep-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have a large stockpile of SOI already banked in the POPI, but PFE/SOI (or the component BRM) is a bit of a challenge sometimes [13-Sep-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FOD is easily acquired on the market if you offer 150 on the CX it gets filled [13-Sep-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have the CHP to backstop PFE/SOI in a pinch [13-Sep-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I won’t be quitting the game so this infrastructure remains available to the Governor [13-Sep-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at least until you build or acquire your own network [13-Sep-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve just cut the taxes for a week to see what happens but I’ll put them back to normal for the handover so then it’s safe to assume that 90-105% of all needs are covered nicely by taxation [13-Sep-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone selling FF? [13-Sep-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes [13-Sep-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: how much do you need? [13-Sep-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: It's been an honor to have you as my governor neke86. Learned a lot from you. cheers mate. 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[13-Sep-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kevlbrrn** joined.* [13-Sep-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: sure [13-Sep-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @breisbrenny Make an AD within 5min and I'll fill it immediately [13-Sep-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: after that I'll be sleeping ;) [13-Sep-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kevlbrrn** left.* [13-Sep-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yetAnotherCompany** left.* [13-Sep-22 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Milopetilo** left.* [13-Sep-22 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrispiusBaconus** left.* [13-Sep-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jettisond** joined.* [13-Sep-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Anybody have BSE? 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[14-Sep-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: up to 4k profit per day per ship [14-Sep-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: +1, I was one of the shipper and those contracts saved my cash balance more then once :) [14-Sep-22 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i pay upfront :-) [14-Sep-22 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Leviathan is on the way @Nicster 15hrs :) [14-Sep-22 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3614174e1c** left.* [14-Sep-22 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thx @neke86! [14-Sep-22 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfb8bac0fe1** left.* [14-Sep-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sevak**: Any BDE I can buy? [14-Sep-22 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sevak**: I just need 1. I miscalculated apparently. [14-Sep-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LooseMoose** joined.* [14-Sep-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1c737ba9d1** left.* [14-Sep-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DominicTorreto** left.* [14-Sep-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedoOfStanley** left.* [14-Sep-22 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have processes that are idle because I cannot buy LST and HAL. Does anyone have some to sell? [14-Sep-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: try uv-072c [14-Sep-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: they sell in bulk there. [14-Sep-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have, nothing available for days. [14-Sep-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: or the governor. [14-Sep-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Neke is on UV-072c and I buy from him often. [14-Sep-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: HAL is the real problem [14-Sep-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (New LST/CLI posted) [14-Sep-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: \o/ [14-Sep-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I probably need to spend some time shipping it to the CX and pushing down the price tbh [14-Sep-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Instead of bulk offloading it at the tap for 40-50/u :P [14-Sep-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shokng** left.* [14-Sep-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Nooo.. I'm addicted to the tap lol [14-Sep-22 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :'D [14-Sep-22 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thanks neke. [14-Sep-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I see that H20.CI1 is still way up there, would it be a good idea to just invest heavily into rigs (etherwind specificly) at the moment? Or is there any hope in bringing the price down? [14-Sep-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Absolutely. [14-Sep-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was unable to keep a lid on pricing using just my base and DrMambo, so we've pulled back a bit [14-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (he's Fermat Farming) [14-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I see. Well looks like I know what I will be planning out now [14-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You've got a base there already which is a great start [14-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd be happy to fund some investment [14-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: That is on my to-do list, but I have 2 other planets I need to secure before etherwind. :( [14-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so long as we see H2O hit the market, rather than DW/HYF products [14-Sep-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell 1000 H2O for 18 in Katoa if someone wants it. [14-Sep-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: I just built 2 more rigs, and I have a ship headed there with mats to build 3 more. I'll see how that affects my H20 to DW ratio, might pull back one of my FPs [14-Sep-22 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I also have 1000 on Etherwind that I will sell for 18. [14-Sep-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone have LST? [14-Sep-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The is 206 available on UV-072c [14-Sep-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It looks like it is gone. I can't access the post. [14-Sep-22 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: could someone spare me 3x FE pls, posted a buy order for it in Local Market [14-Sep-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Done [14-Sep-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: thank you [15-Sep-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Royal_Respects** joined.* [15-Sep-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_yomomz** left.* [15-Sep-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rhys-Baker** joined.* [15-Sep-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have 3 carbon? [15-Sep-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure, post ad [15-Sep-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: thank you [15-Sep-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: np [15-Sep-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neskartu** joined.* [15-Sep-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jrod** joined.* [15-Sep-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jrod** left.* [15-Sep-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lore** joined.* [15-Sep-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neskartu** left.* [15-Sep-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrKhan** left.* [15-Sep-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Smalls177** joined.* [15-Sep-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dgox** left.* [15-Sep-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krimys** joined.* [15-Sep-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Euven** left.* [15-Sep-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***playmarkh** left.* [15-Sep-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tanis_the_wise** left.* [15-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***1011morefm2** left.* [15-Sep-22 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Charvaka** joined.* [15-Sep-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oblip21** left.* [15-Sep-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FiniteCloud** joined.* [15-Sep-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***profileNamesAreBoring** left.* [16-Sep-22 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRandomAffect** joined.* [16-Sep-22 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mihirdesai_1** joined.* [16-Sep-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DEVIL_12** joined.* [16-Sep-22 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone have 10CU for sale? [16-Sep-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: on prox yes [16-Sep-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you can send me a contract for whatever you pay usually [16-Sep-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thx [16-Sep-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CameronMinsk** left.* [16-Sep-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***M.Lee** left.* [16-Sep-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeadB4U** joined.* [16-Sep-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sheo** joined.* [16-Sep-22 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sheo** left.* [16-Sep-22 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sheo** joined.* [16-Sep-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Anyone know if you can start a base from a warehouse on a planet by dropping the base supplies there or do you need a ship's cargo hold? [16-Sep-22 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It can be done from a warehouse [16-Sep-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Thanks! Will save me a 6 hrs. 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Having a LM is bonus. You can get both orders into a ship. [17-Sep-22 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Katao -> BEN 400 free space. Leaving in 20 minutes [17-Sep-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RYAN01** joined.* [17-Sep-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ech0-9** joined.* [17-Sep-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can occasionally start bringing ALO here if that’s a thing now? Do we have smelting going on here? [17-Sep-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: There should be some players with 1-2 SMEs... but a larger operation is unlikely [17-Sep-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuniqueGamus** joined.* [17-Sep-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gamerlud** joined.* [17-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Feonor** left.* [17-Sep-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Infermer** joined.* [17-Sep-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Penrose** joined.* [17-Sep-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: Can anyone supply 36 DW / 36 RAT to pay in 5 days, in a bit of a situation rn, couldn't come on due to some personal stuff and completely forgot to queue up something for myself and I'm dead in the water [17-Sep-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: dm me [17-Sep-22 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeChinoiiis** joined.* [17-Sep-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamafire201** joined.* [17-Sep-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gforce725** joined.* [18-Sep-22 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xinon** left.* [18-Sep-22 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0c2a91a919** left.* [18-Sep-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThatGuyAgain359** left.* [18-Sep-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pieddy** joined.* [18-Sep-22 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rejuice** left.* [18-Sep-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.KatPie** left.* [18-Sep-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoblePierre** left.* [18-Sep-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neuermann3300** joined.* [18-Sep-22 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karrmyk** joined.* [18-Sep-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tanum** left.* [18-Sep-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: STREAM starting. Topic is Gov & You. Noob questions welcome. Come join us. https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream once or twice daily with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9ZOIjsOXdpEwjXExk_-L4aO1z5EFJd7pD1KJJ0QoaxM/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/db4cdf84-4d72-4c90-9932-cd5ef5aa577f-profile_image-300x300.png [18-Sep-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Stream back up [18-Sep-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slibye** left.* [18-Sep-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ConvelTenebris** left.* [18-Sep-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emma_Ruwood** left.* [18-Sep-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aedis** left.* [18-Sep-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: STREAM over. Thanks all who were there. 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[19-Sep-22 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***acidplay** left.* [19-Sep-22 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dominaria**: Ah I just realized that you’re not a new player so you can probably afford that… sorry [19-Sep-22 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bipolar_Bear** left.* [19-Sep-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bipolar_Bear** joined.* [19-Sep-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user45c7819226** left.* [19-Sep-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LiontAKA** joined.* [19-Sep-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0b26b3de4d** left.* [20-Sep-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3138894a85** left.* [20-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Nothing to worry about, and yes, i can ^^ [20-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonman** joined.* [20-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I still have 200 ALO laying around [20-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I can take it. Send me contract for all 200 [20-Sep-22 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what do you usually pay? [20-Sep-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: no idea :) I'm just starting with smelting industry. Just send me contract with proce that you consider fair [20-Sep-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: price* [20-Sep-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ahmurhama**: leaving benton station with 400/400 free in 10 mins if anyone needs something shipped [20-Sep-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrCane** joined.* [20-Sep-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ccccchris** left.* [20-Sep-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Umbra -> Katoa; empty cargo room, leaving in appr. 30 minutes [20-Sep-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NO-X** joined.* [20-Sep-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DCLXVII** joined.* [20-Sep-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Janitor** joined.* [20-Sep-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TapWatr** joined.* [20-Sep-22 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thelegend69** left.* [20-Sep-22 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unfortunot** left.* [20-Sep-22 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Bix** joined.* [20-Sep-22 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Can anyone spare 1 BSE? LM ad up for just over CX ask. [20-Sep-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sure thing which planet? [20-Sep-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: here at Katoa [20-Sep-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: LM ad is there [20-Sep-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sorry, I don't have any BSEs on Katoa [20-Sep-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok. thanks for looking. Just one needed somebody [21-Sep-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I have 1 BSE if still needed [21-Sep-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I just filled his order [21-Sep-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I'll send you a contract. If you don't need it anymore, just refuse it [21-Sep-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I see [21-Sep-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ok [21-Sep-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakejakejake999** left.* [21-Sep-22 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJAK.** left.* [21-Sep-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apatxe** left.* [21-Sep-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Michael_Le41** left.* [21-Sep-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***exubrify** joined.* [21-Sep-22 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kipieslim** left.* [21-Sep-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Onxyeus** left.* [21-Sep-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MalGen06** joined.* [21-Sep-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***empty100101** left.* [21-Sep-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haestrom** left.* [21-Sep-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamoDragon** left.* [21-Sep-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: How do you send someone a contract? [21-Sep-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **into0rbit**: And how do you make that contract? [21-Sep-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: CONTD buffer. you need pro license though [21-Sep-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamoDragon** joined.* [21-Sep-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evoras** joined.* [21-Sep-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8068defc44** left.* [21-Sep-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamoDragon** left.* [21-Sep-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamoDragon** joined.* [21-Sep-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GemminiRuby** joined.* [21-Sep-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shul** left.* [21-Sep-22 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TWG** joined.* [21-Sep-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fundator_Unum** left.* [21-Sep-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HydraulicPress** left.* [21-Sep-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TimeDese** left.* [22-Sep-22 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8abcc90f3e** left.* [22-Sep-22 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9bc8b55755** left.* [22-Sep-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Droo** joined.* [22-Sep-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got 160 ALO here for whoever sends me the first contract at 100/u or better [22-Sep-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: In 7 days the next election cycle begins, I will be voting for @SeaPear and should they prove the successful candidate, work closely with the handover. I encourage all my current voters to support SeaPear in the upcoming election :) [22-Sep-22 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Any hint on what the local ruses change was? [22-Sep-22 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: *rules [22-Sep-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: tax changes? looks like electronics techs are being screwed :/ [22-Sep-22 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CenturyFox** left.* [22-Sep-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOtherSeid** joined.* [22-Sep-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: 5x tax increase for resource extraction, not sure what else [22-Sep-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: @neke86, why tax resource extraction more? Not that taxes are a big hitter, but i thought the push was for the groups using the POPI and COGC. [22-Sep-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Somehow it is strange, that you get the info that there are new taxes, but you cannot directly see the difference to before. [22-Sep-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snurp1** joined.* [22-Sep-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **kushkat**: "Read my lips: no new taxes" [22-Sep-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **kushkat**: JK Neke we love you <3 [22-Sep-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wesdknapper21** joined.* [22-Sep-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LooseMoose** left.* [22-Sep-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The only thing I changed was Fuel and Chem settlers from 10>18 and Elec TECs back to 200. [22-Sep-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Elec ENGs farming the MM and Manufacturing seem to account for >90% of revenue so broadening that a bit as it’s a brittle. [22-Sep-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I alone make up 11% of the last tax dividend and i’m about to become significantly less active :) [22-Sep-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***A-Corporation** left.* [22-Sep-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hendrix** joined.* [22-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobManSvK** left.* [22-Sep-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MunchieUK** joined.* [22-Sep-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobbyCarDay** left.* [22-Sep-22 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @neke86 thanks for the tax reduction sved me 20k Cis XD [22-Sep-22 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: last week alone [22-Sep-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah the net benefit should still be savings across the board :) [22-Sep-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TobiasMage23** joined.* [22-Sep-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rebelepik** left.* [22-Sep-22 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Smiles** joined.* [22-Sep-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maxkablaam** joined.* [23-Sep-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma** joined.* [23-Sep-22 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Yeah. Hi everyone! I actually just finished a podcast episode with Lex where we talk about taxes. I plan on raising taxes slowly, but I will also raise and lower taxes dynamically. If prices are good, we will keep the taxes a bit higher, but if prices are lower I will offer tax relief. [23-Sep-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: If people are very very strong about this raise in taxes, help me afford this planet. :) [23-Sep-22 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma** left.* [23-Sep-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Taxes have traditionally been high :) [23-Sep-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Royal_Respects** left.* [23-Sep-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I think it sounds fair. I can imagine that the upkeep of the planets infrastructur isn't cheap. [23-Sep-22 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***matt101408** joined.* [23-Sep-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **matt101408**: is this game worth playing for free [23-Sep-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: it is more challenging and you definitely have a much slower start because you cannot accept transport contracts from local markets, but you can still play [23-Sep-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Passerby** joined.* [23-Sep-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **matt101408**: ok [23-Sep-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **matt101408**: ill probaly buy pro [23-Sep-22 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Droo** left.* [23-Sep-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have any lse? looking for 3 [23-Sep-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EMERALDFARMER** joined.* [23-Sep-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lajiaopi** joined.* [23-Sep-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PepeIsLepen** left.* [23-Sep-22 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Umbra -> Katoa; empty cargo room, leaving in appr. 30 minutes [23-Sep-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Smalls177** left.* [23-Sep-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma** joined.* [23-Sep-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krimys** left.* [23-Sep-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***habibihany** joined.* [23-Sep-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Wow... Katoa's POPI are stuffed. Almost everything has ~30 days of reserves [23-Sep-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MinasOrDie** joined.* [23-Sep-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Sounds like a resposible government knowing it is leaving and not wanting to cause problems till a new gov settles in. [23-Sep-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: haha! [23-Sep-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have kept it in 20-30 range for most of my tenure [23-Sep-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve even more stock for the handover [23-Sep-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and already arranging supply contracts to pass hand [23-Sep-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I think I have one of those small supply contracts. Well, we will miss your leadership but I personally hope you are around for some interactions at least and a few message chats from time to time. [23-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fox_Fire** joined.* [23-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That’s the plan! [23-Sep-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capuccino** joined.* [23-Sep-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capuccino** left.* [23-Sep-22 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Charvaka** left.* [23-Sep-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cyraga** left.* [23-Sep-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: Hello new guy here on the planet just saying Hi [23-Sep-22 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there [23-Sep-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: hi [23-Sep-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: nice to meet you [23-Sep-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: this planet has quite a lot to offer [23-Sep-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: hope so [23-Sep-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: most starting planets do xD [23-Sep-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i just picked one that didnt have a bunch of warnings on it [23-Sep-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: seems nice though [23-Sep-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: lots of nice and experienced players here that can answer questions [23-Sep-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: oh great ! [23-Sep-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: think i got most of it down basic market/gamer stuff the UI was a little tricky to understand at first [23-Sep-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: UI is very flexible [23-Sep-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ya but is neat was alot of information at first though [23-Sep-22 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it certainly can be [23-Sep-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i will have made my first SF in 25 mins ! [23-Sep-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: had to do maths and make a spreadsheet alot for a "game" but yea [23-Sep-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Nice! If you need some extra funds for another building or supplies, you can sell 1/2 your starting fuels (both kinds) for a decent amount [23-Sep-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: dope i uhm used allot of it though try to learn stuff [23-Sep-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: lol [23-Sep-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: but good to know\ [23-Sep-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: There are quite a few tools and spreadsheets that can help in the Community resources section of the wiki [23-Sep-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ohhh nice i will need check that out thanks [23-Sep-22 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd reccomend Prunner or Rain's Base spreadsheet [23-Sep-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah... just be careful with how much fuel you use flying about [23-Sep-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: yes lol [23-Sep-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i spent way to much picking up some coffe yo [23-Sep-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: like way to much [23-Sep-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: this is a slow burn game... but speeds up as you pickup more and more bases [23-Sep-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ya i figured as much [23-Sep-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: most games is slow at start [23-Sep-22 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if you want to play risky... you could start as a trader [23-Sep-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: the lack of speed controls is pain thouhg [23-Sep-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: this video covers it... but you could always get into trading later https://youtu.be/X3FGxS5DeQM?t=55 {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3FGxS5DeQM&start=55 Prosperous Universe - The Secret Profession to Quick Wealth What if I told you a world, where work that would take weeks... can take days? Arbitrage Scanner: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1llgYSnuOyaD4tjlkzM33e3PNeS6zRbeC6N3C_se43Z0/edit?usp=sharing Join our Discord at Nascent Merchantile: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/61v47Gf88f5SEAHk6jKlu4IUDjebaBWxtEbDaklZNa4/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/X3FGxS5DeQM/maxresdefault.jpg [23-Sep-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i mostly play singleplayer games so im spoiled witht those fast forward buttons [23-Sep-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: oh yea i saw that one [23-Sep-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: economy games are always more fun with more players [23-Sep-22 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: sounds like way to much maths [23-Sep-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: since everyone developes differently and has different goals and objectives [23-Sep-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: yea cant argue with that [23-Sep-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can still do very well in this game without spreadsheets [23-Sep-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ya but it helps [23-Sep-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it can... it can also hurt at specific times [23-Sep-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i guess i dont like to do math so if it can keep me from doing the same math over and over agian then great [23-Sep-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: this seems like a math heavy game [23-Sep-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Math is your friend. Cooperate with it and don't abuse it and it will do wonderful things for you. [23-Sep-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: yea [23-Sep-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: we just dont always agree on things [23-Sep-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: lol [23-Sep-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Math can get pretty fussy over small--differences. lol [23-Sep-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: yup [23-Sep-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Best of luck. See ya around the universe. [23-Sep-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: thanks same to you friend [23-Sep-22 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: Local market is so dull now. Not able to sell OVE even now. [23-Sep-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: OVE? ovaries? [23-Sep-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: oh! Basic Overalls! [23-Sep-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: lol [23-Sep-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: selling manufactured goods on a manufacturing planet [23-Sep-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: like trying sell cheap plastic toys in china [23-Sep-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i would buy them i need stock up but no pro licenses yet [23-Sep-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: omg i have made STL fuel! finaly [23-Sep-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: muhahahaha [23-Sep-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: plenty of opprotunity without being PRO or Basic licenses [23-Sep-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Zoom Zoom! You're off into the business world. [23-Sep-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: yes and soon the we will use it to burn the world! [23-Sep-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: or fuel ships whatevers easier [23-Sep-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FiniteCloud** left.* [23-Sep-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: those ships can burn a lot of fuel quick [23-Sep-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: oh yes i have learned [23-Sep-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: is no joke [23-Sep-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i like how the plantes looks like a golf ball lol [23-Sep-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: with enough meteor stricks they'll have just as many dimples [23-Sep-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ya [23-Sep-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vitus** left.* [23-Sep-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moustache** joined.* [23-Sep-22 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: how much fuel does it take to fly from BEN to Proxion in 12 hrs? [23-Sep-22 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Depends on what you want to burn/use [23-Sep-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: minimum [23-Sep-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: 151 STL and 31 FTL for a flight from BEN KATOA so from BEN It'll be less STL [23-Sep-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: those figures give me a 10H 10M time frame [23-Sep-22 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: BEN to Prox? [23-Sep-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: BEN KATOA to PROX [23-Sep-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: uhh im confused, why are you saying katoa [23-Sep-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Because they're in the same space [23-Sep-22 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: It's to give you a general idea [23-Sep-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: is there anyway to simulate this ingame? [23-Sep-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: from x to x..without my ship flight nav [23-Sep-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: not that i know of no [23-Sep-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: els than experience that is [23-Sep-22 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: i see ty [23-Sep-22 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i think the ship itself also plays a part in it i could be wrong though [23-Sep-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: No problem, i know it's not much info to go on but yeah, yes that is also true but most people use the vanila ship still so i'm just going of of the base figures [23-Sep-22 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ye [23-Sep-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: The upgraded/costume made ones are quite expensive to build so yeah [23-Sep-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: fuel in the ship plays a huge part [23-Sep-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: fuel weight [23-Sep-22 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ya makes sense [23-Sep-22 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I always go from full tank [23-Sep-22 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: uhhh that uses way more fuel then [23-Sep-22 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: i know ease of mind without refueling but check your fuel usage, its a huge diff [23-Sep-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ya thats stuff not cheap [23-Sep-22 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: It's alot less than you think [23-Sep-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: i close to emptied one and tested and that was minor differences [23-Sep-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: but hey if it saves a dollar thats a dollar earned my friend [23-Sep-22 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: or something like that [23-Sep-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: im poor so yea every dollar helps [23-Sep-22 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: True true, but i'm also a established player too so a few STL's here and there does not do much of a difference for me, especially since i produce my own fuel [23-Sep-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: right right [23-Sep-22 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: do you ship your own fuel to your other bases [23-Sep-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Moustache**: When it say 3 days 2hr to reach destination.. is it game day or real days? [23-Sep-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: real time [23-Sep-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: game days are real days yo [23-Sep-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Moustache**: omg.... [23-Sep-22 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ye [23-Sep-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: the real game is planning the game outside of the game which only takes maybe 30min-1hr [23-Sep-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: for the actual game [23-Sep-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: while you do want to save fuel... you want to use enough not to take forever [23-Sep-22 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I only got one base but when i get two yes i'd be shipping my own if it's something that is needed with speed, if it's something that is not vital or of haste i sett up contracts for others to do [23-Sep-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: do ppl actually do shipping contracts [23-Sep-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes [23-Sep-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: how much are going rates from x to x etc [23-Sep-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Benten is one of the best systems to have others ship stuff for you [23-Sep-22 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends.. usually I see players offering 6 creadits per ton or m3 (whichever it larger) [23-Sep-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: hm no shipping contracts on benten from what i can see [23-Sep-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: i see 2 [23-Sep-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: at the station [23-Sep-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: ohh nvm im looking from katoa [23-Sep-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ah [23-Sep-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: there was one or two poping up [23-Sep-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: need keep awn eye on it [23-Sep-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I have a overall calculation that i have setup for myself on a spreadsheet....so i go out from the amount of fuel used per trip and then i set additional earning on top of that for other players [23-Sep-22 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: 10,000,000? [23-Sep-22 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BananaRammaLammaPajamaJamma**: ill do it for 10,000,00 [23-Sep-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: lots of ships traveling around Benten system. Usually only shipments that are not offering enough per ton or m3 aren't taken [23-Sep-22 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peipol** joined.* [23-Sep-22 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Shipping Katoa -> Ben with 200/200 avalible leaving in ~12 hours. [24-Sep-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRandomAffect** left.* [24-Sep-22 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mihirdesai_1** left.* [24-Sep-22 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user21c9f985f5** left.* [24-Sep-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spits** left.* [24-Sep-22 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magyk** joined.* [24-Sep-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2f40d076a0** left.* [24-Sep-22 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DopeCalypso** left.* [24-Sep-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Leaving Benten STN for Katoa within 30 min. Have over 400 space available. contact if you need a shipment. Will be under 1 day trip. [24-Sep-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: new ALO stock landed. 648 to sell. gonna do it the same as neke. first contracts with 100/u or better will be filled. [24-Sep-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AppleRez** joined.* [24-Sep-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: Shipping contract from BEN > Katoa up. I have another to put up after as well. [24-Sep-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Shipping Katoa -> Ben 40/40 remaining and leaving in ~10mins. [24-Sep-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOgTSM** joined.* [24-Sep-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeadB4U** left.* [24-Sep-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cupa** left.* [24-Sep-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.ender** joined.* [24-Sep-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tulak_Hord** joined.* [24-Sep-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kothev** left.* [24-Sep-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OLDPERFECT** left.* [24-Sep-22 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: anyone want something shipped from BEN->KAT? leaving soon 440m3/435t available. no fee limit [25-Sep-22 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kylysta** left.* [25-Sep-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xiq**: thanks @blueheeler [25-Sep-22 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Echo-3** joined.* [25-Sep-22 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ech0-9** left.* [25-Sep-22 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ech0-9** joined.* [25-Sep-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've started making BHP again, let me know if you're interested [25-Sep-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Trying to gauge volumes to make before I switch off them again, so if you want any in the next 10-14 days, let me know nowish [25-Sep-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (You dont have to buy now) [25-Sep-22 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: RRP is 2,250 CIS/BHP [25-Sep-22 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'd buy 20 BHP [25-Sep-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure, send me through contracts with 7-day terms [25-Sep-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (I'll fill them much sooner, but you can pay whenever and covers me in case people send large orders) [25-Sep-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I'll also take 20BHP, contract send [25-Sep-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: THanks gents [25-Sep-22 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have also placed a fair bit of COF @ 450/u on the LM in small and large batches for different player sizes, got even more coming [25-Sep-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apex_Aspera** joined.* [25-Sep-22 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blunder** joined.* [25-Sep-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tflagg** left.* [25-Sep-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bespoke** left.* [25-Sep-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gingernuts** joined.* [25-Sep-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RYAN01** left.* [25-Sep-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: easy shipping contract up BEN to KAT [25-Sep-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hmm [25-Sep-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd likely take that if it had 2 days because I'm stopping at Umbra first. I'm sure someone else will take it [25-Sep-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: ah yea normally i would set 2 days, but forgot im in urgent need [25-Sep-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: you know what ill change it to 2 days [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: would cost you more to do that xD [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: ugh as it is then :P [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm sure it'll move quick enough as is [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: wasnt sure bout shipping rates [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: thought someone say 5-7 CIS per T/m3 [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: usually arounf 6 per ton or m3 (whichever is higher) [25-Sep-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: for fast delivery your rate seems ok [25-Sep-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: and only ok not good lol [25-Sep-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: someone will take it. My ships are not in position or I would of picked it up [25-Sep-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: enough ships pass between.. someone is bound to take it [25-Sep-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My weekly STREAM is starting. Topic today is Shipping &CX Trading with guest RNGzero. Noobie questions welcome. Come visit at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [25-Sep-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EvilPla** joined.* [25-Sep-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuniqueGamus** left.* [25-Sep-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ghedemonas** joined.* [25-Sep-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***friedwater9** joined.* [25-Sep-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theking_220** joined.* [25-Sep-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TutorialAccount** joined.* [25-Sep-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Infermer** left.* [25-Sep-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***H0RUS** joined.* [25-Sep-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: STREAM over. If you missed it you can watch it here over the next 2 weeks. Thanks RNGzero for being my guest and tanks to all those who tuned in. [25-Sep-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: thx canuck [25-Sep-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Glad to do this. See ya around. [25-Sep-22 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it was a fun stream [25-Sep-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am gonna go play with your spreadsheet some RNGzero. [25-Sep-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: was able to go over the spreadsheet I use (and put together) [25-Sep-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Grandpa_Canuck, go right ahead [25-Sep-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: for anyone else, just file -> make a copy and mess around with it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XiljK-Pe5BGu8Xu5vnJsRTl8LKSk4iqHp1x0GE-nBds/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XiljK-Pe5BGu8Xu5vnJsRTl8LKSk4iqHp1x0GE-nBds/edit?usp=sharing Prosp.Uni.PriceRecipe v 0.05 Sort-Prices Pio.,Set.,Tec.,Engi.,Sci.,Lux 1,Lux 2,R.Eff,Custom Price INC,POL,100 PP1 Sort,Eff. Profit/H,100 Market (CX),Production Ben-CI1,Ben-CI1 BUI,Product,Output,Time (H),Labor,Total Cost,Cost/u,Bid,Diff.,Ask,Profit/u,Total Profit,% Profit,Profit/H,Demand,Input,#,Price,Input,# INC,C ,4,7.9... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/il6JUpdpowV5bezXrAm1_0c1SkrxASUFh10uervMHLw/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/HN0WID8EI5MQ5aUuI9n8bRfl4LheIMXvCBO4hsiLL03vNmuvVcWwR4nGh8gn7uXD2O8pDyCDrIxe5A%3Dw1200-h630-p [25-Sep-22 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TutorialAccount** left.* [25-Sep-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: here's my approach to CX trading: https://github.com/gilith1/PrUn_scripts/blob/main/CX_Trader.py {Embed} https://github.com/gilith1/PrUn_scripts/blob/main/CX_Trader.py PrUn_scripts/CX_Trader.py at main Β· gilith1/PrUn_scripts Prosperous Universe scripts. Contribute to gilith1/PrUn_scripts development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/acovzO0hj2_79l4dLq5lWZmBZl1M8Et5y3DDshQt68k/https/opengraph.githubassets.com/f60ba6e2d70acfcb1a5e9be49563abd50f00a9ff5aadd8b0afc05e0677e56119/gilith1/PrUn_scripts [25-Sep-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: just install Python to run it, then select the starting CX and destination CX [25-Sep-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: going to check that out! [25-Sep-22 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: let me know what you think. it's pretty basic but useful- finds all the goods with lower ask at the source CX and higher bid at destination, matches bids with asks to determine how many can be traded profitably, then sorts it all by profit potential [25-Sep-22 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah.. I have no idea what I'm doign to run it [25-Sep-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: download python from https://www.python.org/downloads/ {Embed} https://www.python.org/downloads/ Download Python The official home of the Python Programming Language https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3ySfWfvhv6j0ycZwm6fYA7jcOfrzST69owF2zCYu30I/https/www.python.org/static/opengraph-icon-200x200.png [25-Sep-22 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: install it. I assume you're on win? then download the script, right-click on the file, select open with -> python [25-Sep-22 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I had an oops with PT at Katoa. Can somone spare 4 to sell me? [25-Sep-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Just need a day to get it straighened out. I usually sell the stuff [25-Sep-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sure thing, send a contract [25-Sep-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Will do thanks, I only need 4 [25-Sep-22 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***V3RR3Z** joined.* [25-Sep-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olslacken** joined.* [25-Sep-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamafire201** left.* [25-Sep-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhoenixCorp** left.* [25-Sep-22 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jay2smooth**: Anyone have H2O for sale? [25-Sep-22 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you some water. 500 or less at 35 CIS per unit. [25-Sep-22 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_mort_** joined.* [25-Sep-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: shipping ads up on katoa [26-Sep-22 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bolgar** joined.* [26-Sep-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bolgar** left.* [26-Sep-22 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bolgar** joined.* [26-Sep-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bolgar** left.* [26-Sep-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chainmech12** joined.* [26-Sep-22 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ManBad** joined.* [26-Sep-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: anyone has some PWO for sale please? [26-Sep-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: how many you need? [26-Sep-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: 2-3 [26-Sep-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I will send a contract [26-Sep-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: thank you! [26-Sep-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: sent [26-Sep-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: thx, it waits for you provisioning [26-Sep-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You need to accept the contract [26-Sep-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: i cant, only CLOSE and REJECT. status is pending on #1 provisioning [26-Sep-22 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: strange XD [26-Sep-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: done [26-Sep-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: lol, i had to press the CLOSE button to be able to pay!? [26-Sep-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: yep [26-Sep-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: interesting wording :) [26-Sep-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: close accepts the contract [26-Sep-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ie: close the deal [26-Sep-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Z3nio**: ok, i understand...thx again! :) [26-Sep-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sildarya** left.* [26-Sep-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***QuarkNexen** left.* [26-Sep-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodMagician** joined.* [26-Sep-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Shipping Katoa -> Station with 250/250 avalible leaving in ~1 hour. Post on LM or send contract [26-Sep-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: 50t / 200m3 left... leaving in 10mins [26-Sep-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: I have stuff listed in LM for your return flight if ya have room.... [26-Sep-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: likely the return flight will go Umbra -> Katoa -> Station. [26-Sep-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: The stuff will likely get to Katoa quicker on another player's ship. If they are still avalible later, I'll pick them up [26-Sep-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xaviar** joined.* [26-Sep-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EMERALDFARMER** left.* [26-Sep-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karrmyk** left.* [26-Sep-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: No worries, figured I'd throw it out there if you were just doing a turnaround. Someone will grab them [26-Sep-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xaviar**: Why does my new order say "halted"? [26-Sep-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xaviar**: Ah, nevermind. No workers. The tutorial doesn't really cover that. [26-Sep-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/#why-does-my-production-line-show-as-halted {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/ FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [26-Sep-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epiphsny** joined.* [26-Sep-22 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Allmaker** joined.* [26-Sep-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AcidEgoist** joined.* [26-Sep-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_mort_** left.* [26-Sep-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KOBRA_INDUSTRIES** joined.* [26-Sep-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: Hello [26-Sep-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there [26-Sep-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: this game is incredible [26-Sep-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: there is quite a lot going on [26-Sep-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: yeah its really good im setting up a gas production right now [26-Sep-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Fuel is a solid maket.. it's recovered a bit of it;s price over recently [26-Sep-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: thats good everyone needs FTL fuel! [26-Sep-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: a lot of players think that which leads to quite a bit of competition on those [26-Sep-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: ive never been one to play things on easy mode lol [26-Sep-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: need to make space OPEC [26-Sep-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's still a good place to start and helps new players get into the many industries [26-Sep-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'm sure there are already players doing that xD [26-Sep-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: i heard the browser game is better? something about mods and more commodities? [26-Sep-22 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I use the browser version because I zoom in a tad (10%) to make everything easier to read [26-Sep-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: yeah the font is pretty small [26-Sep-22 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: there are extensions on browser that do help with QoL stuff [26-Sep-22 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the next update (once Molp returns from paternity leave) seems to be for QoL features [26-Sep-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: sweet its pretty solid so far im sure ill notice things as time goes by [26-Sep-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: link for that: https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2022/09/26/quality-time-354/ {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2022/09/26/quality-time-354/ Quality Time - Development Log #354 | Prosperous Universe With everyone else gone or busy with other projects, Fabian managed to spend some quality time. Quality-of-life time to be precise... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WAiDYBKsBxqq7foni4z5b22q4lzQqXdUPEK9VeTGuC4/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/release_presence.jpg [26-Sep-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: some advice: focus on making SF, it's easier to make here on Katoa with local resource extraction; for FF you'll have to import the materials [26-Sep-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: thank you that is the goal! [26-Sep-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: I have ammonia extracting and my workers housed now i have a good 3 hours before i can pick up some BSE and fly it back before i go to work tomorrow lol i love how long things take its like real its amazing [26-Sep-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KOBRA_INDUSTRIES**: i work a lot so this is so perfect [26-Sep-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrimsonCoder** left.* [26-Sep-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dingel** left.* [26-Sep-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: this game really respects your time. So can still get things done while out and about [26-Sep-22 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vengerr** joined.* [26-Sep-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap SIO on the LM [26-Sep-22 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: need to clear space [26-Sep-22 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christmas** joined.* [26-Sep-22 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Christmas** left.* [26-Sep-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MFL and SSL on the CX for anyone building new ships. Prices for the MFL are negotiable, have set it that high to avoid scalping. [26-Sep-22 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also taking orders for MCB, 250,000 CIS and next available in ~46-48 hours. [26-Sep-22 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Driventerror** joined.* [26-Sep-22 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swiftbiscuit** joined.* [26-Sep-22 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DepressedAF** joined.* [26-Sep-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MidgeeDaniels** joined.* [27-Sep-22 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***2bulldog25** joined.* [27-Sep-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodMagician** left.* [27-Sep-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magyk** left.* [27-Sep-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Hello all, I am looking for BSE supplier. Want to buy 90 pcs. If the price will be good, even more. :-) Please send your offers to dm. Thank you. [27-Sep-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have that in stock [27-Sep-22 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emrule** joined.* [27-Sep-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeneralEmu23** joined.* [27-Sep-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeneralEmu23** left.* [27-Sep-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gernald** left.* [27-Sep-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PezAlpha** joined.* [27-Sep-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atomraider1** joined.* [27-Sep-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: hi [27-Sep-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: i'm new here [27-Sep-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: any idea what shld i do [27-Sep-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there [27-Sep-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you are new, this video series helps a lot: https://youtu.be/5jkQvL7xDL4?t=40 {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=40 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [27-Sep-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: thanks [27-Sep-22 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: i'll check it out [27-Sep-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Ask questions when you need to. This is a god place for questions relating to the planet. Always someone like RNGzero or I around. [27-Sep-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: This is a slower paced economic game... so having ships or buildings take hours to days to do things is normal [27-Sep-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: yea i'm cool with slow manufactoring cause i used to play eve [27-Sep-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: btw ur youtube link doesn't work [27-Sep-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: perfect! [27-Sep-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: wait, really? [27-Sep-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: uh yea its youtu.be [27-Sep-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: it worked for me:) [27-Sep-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&t=40s {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=40 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [27-Sep-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: thanks [27-Sep-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: this one works [27-Sep-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: i'll check it out [27-Sep-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: so its cheaper to make your workers faster with padded overalls compared to coffee? as each unit is cheaper and is consumed less? [27-Sep-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: ah, I see. When I right clicked the video for the time stamp it went to the .be url [27-Sep-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @emrule. PWO is always great to use (and cheap). COF can be used as well (multiplicative bonus) but is usually more expensive [27-Sep-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: it gives me the idea of resetting and making a coffee company:) [27-Sep-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: COF is difficult to manufacture [27-Sep-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I would suggest looking into it once you are using settleds [27-Sep-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: settlers* [27-Sep-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: generally.. I'll use COF if I can get it for ~400/u [27-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: COF production takes a lot of water... which is in short supply on the Benten CX [27-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: COF is very dependant on H2O so if H2O costs are high the margin on COF drops a fair bit. [27-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: wow i legit blindly picked out the same class same planet as the dude at the video [27-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: i think i'm gonna just copy him [27-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: why is H2O so expensive at benten? there is a water planet in the system [27-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: fuel engineer on Katoa is a solid start [27-Sep-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Emrule, yes... there is a great H2O planet nearby... but... not much of it is making it to market [27-Sep-22 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: people are using it all for their own stuff? [27-Sep-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: very likely... or processing it into other stuff to sell... or privately selling it [27-Sep-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: H2O has been adjusting price for a month on Benten. Before that it was a stable 20. Amonth ago demand went up/traders moved out the overstock to places to make money/suppliers may of stopped delivering as much because of value on other planets and because it was so cheap at 20 many depended on that will little or no self supply. [27-Sep-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Now it is a good day if you can get H2O for 30 there. Someone paid over 87 for some the other day [27-Sep-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: so just water extraction and selling wouldnt be the worst business? [27-Sep-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah... I'm considering getting a base on Eitherwind for H2O... or Nemesis [27-Sep-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends on the deposit being extracted [27-Sep-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: There are better planets to set that up on rather than Katoa [27-Sep-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: on Eitherwind.. players can extract their own water for ~6 credits per unit [27-Sep-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: at the current prices... extracting water on Katoa is fine [27-Sep-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: the margins on producing it and shipping it would still be really good though? [27-Sep-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes... the margins would be very very good [27-Sep-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well, ask 5 people about that and you will get 8 answers. [27-Sep-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: so this game has lots of "it depends" [27-Sep-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: yes [27-Sep-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: each rig on Eitherwinf make like 42 - 50 H2O/day [27-Sep-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: and how much would it cost to ship all that [27-Sep-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends... but likely under 2k in fuel/repairs [27-Sep-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercc4b8ef654** left.* [27-Sep-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: like a couple per unit? [27-Sep-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am getting 17 1/2 per day from RIGS on Katoa as a comparison [27-Sep-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: let me check. Players can do test flights in the blueprints menu [27-Sep-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah.. under 2k a trip. So as long as you have ~100 H2O onboard (costing 6/u and selling for 30/u) you'd break even on the trip. Needless to say... you could extract and carry much much more than that [27-Sep-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: thats really neat. im guessing theres stuff like that for all raw resources [27-Sep-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: numbers would be different.. but you could certainly breakdown cost/etc. for other materials [27-Sep-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: there are community tools out there as well that help plan stuff out [27-Sep-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd suggest Rain's base planner (w/FIO) or the PRUNner tool from https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/#spreadsheets {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ Community Resources :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [27-Sep-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: There are several planets that specialize in a raw product. So one thing you need to decide is what ones to produce and what ones to buy. [27-Sep-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: what is the constraint on how much i can produce myself. investment into gatherers? [27-Sep-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: guys question i need 60 pioneers and 20 settlers for a refinery [27-Sep-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: but i just have 200 pioneers [27-Sep-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Remember to consider distance/time/speed as well as cost. in your decisions. [27-Sep-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: where do i get the settlers from [27-Sep-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @emrule, you can play however you like. The main constraints are shipping and base area [27-Sep-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Atomraider, your refinery uses both pioneers and settlers [27-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: you'll need a seperate habitat for the settlers to live [27-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: yes but the game gave me just 200 pioneers when i started off? [27-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: And different consumables for them somewhat. [27-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: if i build a habitat will the settlers automatically spawn [27-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: your refinery works without settlers at a reduced speed [27-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: this is a starter planet... once you build a settler habitat your building will use settlers [27-Sep-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: oh cool [27-Sep-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: thanks guys [27-Sep-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Usuallt more settlers will come. This opens a new area for you calle dpopulation reports and related things [27-Sep-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: The fuel refiner profession starts a bit differently than others [27-Sep-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: the dude in the video seemed to have 120 pioneers and 20 settlers [27-Sep-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: so that got me confused [27-Sep-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: This game is like an onion, many layers. Once you think you understand there often is another layer deeper in. [27-Sep-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Have you watched many of the tutorial viseos? [27-Sep-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Check the "CONSTRUCT" button on your base page. When you look at a building, it will tell you how many you need vs. how many are available to you on the planet. [27-Sep-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomraider1**: not really i just finished the second one [27-Sep-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Watch any that you need. They will answer a lot of your questions. [27-Sep-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Learn the concepts not the specifics. [27-Sep-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: anyone have 1 BTA? [27-Sep-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: i do [27-Sep-22 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: you sure you don't need it? you just started [27-Sep-22 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: i dont want anything that it builds into for the next while. if i do ill just go buy one [27-Sep-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: sent you a contract just hit close on it [27-Sep-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: oh i don't have pro so i cant lol dont worry [27-Sep-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: alright [27-Sep-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Draxzter**: ad is up if anyone has it [27-Sep-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thomas1112097** joined.* [27-Sep-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Trying to use the PRUN tool, where do I find my API? [27-Sep-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alcarin7865** left.* [27-Sep-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lottan1992** left.* [27-Sep-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: discord is very active to help [27-Sep-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: https://discord.gg/p9E9R8mg [27-Sep-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station to Katoa (490/490 left) [27-Sep-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Derssl** left.* [27-Sep-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dmwin1** joined.* [27-Sep-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AtiLion** left.* [27-Sep-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xxgucci100xX** joined.* [27-Sep-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: easy shipment posted Kat to Ben, less than 1t [27-Sep-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there's tiny shipment in the opposite direction too [27-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: and my ship is up in Umbra at this time xD [27-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: depends on the reference point ;D from Benten station, it would be down on Umbra [27-Sep-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: let me just.... flip... and turn this maps a bit.... and yes! It's now down! [27-Sep-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: fold the map just the right way and it'll be closer to the destination [27-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: oh have I tried doing that! [27-Sep-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Error in your favor: 1 hour trip between Ben CX and Ant CX... in my dreams [27-Sep-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: haha I wish [27-Sep-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: Deimos -> Ant CX can be done under 3h though [27-Sep-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if you have money to burn.. yes [27-Sep-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaskStrength** joined.* [27-Sep-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***warsaw221** left.* [27-Sep-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LiontAKA** left.* [28-Sep-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rakkzi** joined.* [28-Sep-22 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rakkzi** left.* [28-Sep-22 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonman** left.* [28-Sep-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: no interest in ALO? [28-Sep-22 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: ALO demand has been dropping slightly over the last few weeks around Benten. [28-Sep-22 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that has been what I've been seeing [28-Sep-22 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Yeah seems that way. there are quite some bids on the CX but i wanted to give katoans first dips :-) [28-Sep-22 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bananas43** joined.* [28-Sep-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sheo** left.* [28-Sep-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Axxiff89** joined.* [28-Sep-22 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: @Neke86? [28-Sep-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pobidowski** left.* [28-Sep-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: BEN Station to Katoa 490/490 left pm or contract :) [28-Sep-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vassago** left.* [28-Sep-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KekitusKek** joined.* [28-Sep-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone selling KOM and PT? [28-Sep-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: and REP [28-Sep-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 80 BDE available if anyone needs any @1500 each (cheaper than CXL) offer open to all Katoans [28-Sep-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrCane** left.* [28-Sep-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: karr, do you still need KOM, PT and REP? [28-Sep-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: BEN to KAT ship ad up [28-Sep-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AndrixKing23** left.* [28-Sep-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: @Blueheeler yes please [28-Sep-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Anyone need shipping from Umbra -> Katoa? [28-Sep-22 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: karr, I will DM you [28-Sep-22 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: new ads up [28-Sep-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Who’s this stepping on my REP turf [28-Sep-22 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *cracks knuckles through exosuit* [28-Sep-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: **looks around the room to see who has their hand up or is hiding in a corner** [28-Sep-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Axxiff89** left.* [28-Sep-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahhaha [28-Sep-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: lolol [28-Sep-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Janitor** left.* [28-Sep-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I just gave him some of my stash. Not trying to compete :) [28-Sep-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: However, I will be putting a base on UV-072c any day now. [28-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: To meet my own needs. [28-Sep-22 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jedikight13** joined.* [28-Sep-22 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I welcome all to the hostile reaches of Benten space! [28-Sep-22 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: What Benten space lacks in resources is made up with sheer capitalism [28-Sep-22 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well I will have a sale on capitalism. I am offering half off of twice the original price of all my goods. [28-Sep-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just put 1,200 LST into the CX and it barely moved the price [28-Sep-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yikes [28-Sep-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (more coming) [28-Sep-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TapWatr** left.* [28-Sep-22 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jedikight13** left.* [28-Sep-22 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jedikight13** joined.* [28-Sep-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that is a lot of LST [28-Sep-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: BEN > Katoa ad up [28-Sep-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: 1 ad on Katoa > BEN [29-Sep-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ragorix** joined.* [29-Sep-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RushOnly** joined.* [29-Sep-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scarecrow_**: How efficent is RAT and DW producition on this planet [29-Sep-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scarecrow_**: ? [29-Sep-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's ok-ish. Proxion is better for RATs and Etherwind is better for DW for sure. But you can still make profit here [29-Sep-22 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: RAT is not bad, current prices are good. Problem is water. Water sources on Katoa are not good. Best way is mine water on Ehterwind and grow stuff on Proxion. [29-Sep-22 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Rig on Etherwind mine 42 H2O per day, here on Katoa only 14,7 H2O [29-Sep-22 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scarecrow_**: How much h20 does a farmstead use? [29-Sep-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***24** joined.* [29-Sep-22 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***apolasterkaria** joined.* [29-Sep-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***exubrify** left.* [29-Sep-22 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends what kind of crops you are growing on that farm [29-Sep-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Benten Station -> Katoa; 340mΒ³/270t free; departue in app. 30 minutes [29-Sep-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: As the election starts soon, I would just like to formally announce my election campaign slogan: [29-Sep-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: A Vote for Pear, is a Vote for Higher Taxes. [29-Sep-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: My PR team came up with that one [29-Sep-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Oh no, high taxes on ecumenopolis. What could go wrong? [29-Sep-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: on a side note CoCG upkeep is due mid election (in 4 days) [29-Sep-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: PT buy posted at large markup over CXL. Looking for a fast flip to get ref back going. Thanks [29-Sep-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: LMA UV-351a/39309 100/u? how is that "at a large markup over CX"? [29-Sep-22 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that is a different one [29-Sep-22 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the higher priced one was already filled [29-Sep-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kylejeffery81** joined.* [29-Sep-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0c1e5a8a72** left.* [29-Sep-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AcidEgoist**: Hello there. I have a question. Am I doing something wrong? Just started playing and my collector making 5u per 9h. Is that all right and I'll will grow production later or I've srewd it all? [29-Sep-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: This is slow game. [29-Sep-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: A collector on Katoa isn't the best money maker either [29-Sep-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: on other side, prices of O are quite good now and it is stable way to make some money [29-Sep-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AcidEgoist**: yeah, price is good, but 1000cis w/ fuel cost in 9h... I feel, like more collectors will make it a little sweeter [29-Sep-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: how much profit will you make if you mine galerite and ammonia and then import hydrogen to make fuel in katoa? [29-Sep-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AcidEgoist**: I haven't figured out yet how i can build more buildings like refinery. Is it something with experts? [29-Sep-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user90bc9e9f8c** left.* [29-Sep-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: VOTE SEA PEAR [29-Sep-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **breisbrenny**: already did :) [29-Sep-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Good stuff :D [29-Sep-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***superpoopgames** joined.* [29-Sep-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: My vote is always available to the highest bidder. :'D [29-Sep-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf33b91e35** left.* [29-Sep-22 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user84df00eaaa** left.* [29-Sep-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SearAgate** joined.* [29-Sep-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olslacken** left.* [29-Sep-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Shipping Katoa -> Station with 300/300 avalible leaving in ~1 hour. [29-Sep-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: what exactly is happening with the benten water market, for there to be no sellers at all? (besides me, who's gouging) [29-Sep-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it is rather weird considering Etherwind is close... but it's gone on long enough that it's not an accident [29-Sep-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: ah. well, a good reason to have some local production too :p [29-Sep-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Katoa H2O is quite decent... much better than some agriculture planets (Proxion) [29-Sep-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: has* [29-Sep-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: i'm looking to go in that direction :) annoying to keep having to burn fuel to get DW and RAT [29-Sep-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KitRedgrave**: expensive even if you make the stuff yourself [29-Sep-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What's happening is for the last 2-3 months, DrMambo and I were keeping water flowing, one way or another, to Benten [29-Sep-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and thenwe stopped and within five days this happened [29-Sep-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Someone else is gonna have to step up :) [29-Sep-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Traders are taking water directly via the EW LM to NC1 [29-Sep-22 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: wish i could afford an EW base [30-Sep-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Remember everyone! A Vote For Pear is a Vote for Higher Taxes! [30-Sep-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm sure KAWA could afford an EW base :) [30-Sep-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It would cost a fraction of one ship [30-Sep-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: oh yeah, i prefer building up to it myself though [30-Sep-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 500 are base on EW would be 1 CM, 1 STO, 11 HB1 and 35 RIGs. With three experts it would generate 2,500 H2O per day, exactly one load for a regular 500t starting ship. It would cost about 800K I think [30-Sep-22 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: eh, closer to 1.1m buying direct of CI1 with no regard for price [30-Sep-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So, CHOAM basically setup a 1,000 area base and a 2kt ship to haul :) [30-Sep-22 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Don't even know what it really cost all up [30-Sep-22 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warkhos** joined.* [30-Sep-22 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i would help sponsor such a base for someone. neke you chip in as well? [30-Sep-22 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah if the intent is to send that water to the CX [30-Sep-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: does anyone need LFEs for ship upgrade / new ship? [30-Sep-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NexVeridian** joined.* [30-Sep-22 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: @neke86 so i guess anybody who is willing to supply the CX with H20 can write an application to me and neke :-) [30-Sep-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: which CX? ;D [30-Sep-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: BEN [30-Sep-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im working on a etherwind base but stil la weke or so away [30-Sep-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: My Etherwind base is firing up in a few hours... 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[30-Sep-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZestyBreakfast** joined.* [30-Sep-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: I don't think I understand what I've done wrong, but I'm out of money, and don't see how I can keep up with the workforce items past the next 3 days :sigh: [30-Sep-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Explain some. [30-Sep-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: I am on Katoa, I have 1 collector, 1 extractor, and 1 refinery... i have 175 CIS (I've traded all the other starter capital already)... I have 9ove, 7 rations, and 7 DW remaining [30-Sep-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Do you have fuel on both your ships? And where are they? [30-Sep-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Also assume you have a free account not PRO [30-Sep-22 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: yes, i have thats full and has remained at base, the other is full FF, and half on SF, and has been used to buy workforce items at the CX (is currently at my base)... i AM A PRO SUBSCRIBER [30-Sep-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: how often do you fly your ship back and forth? [30-Sep-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: sorry for capslock [30-Sep-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: only if I have something to sell, or need those items [30-Sep-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: like once a week? [30-Sep-22 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: yeh about [30-Sep-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: cos the only way i can see you going bankrup is flying back and forth twice a day to pick up random shit you forgot [30-Sep-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: no, i guess i shouldnt have setup the refinery?!? [30-Sep-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: im not buying fuel, because i make SF... but I did buy H for the refinery [30-Sep-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok. Transfer all the fuel from your unsed ship and leave it alone till you have more money to fuel. Take all that fuel and anything you can sell to the CX but move slow so you use little fuel. Sell as much fuel as you dare but ask for a penny less than the current buy. Wait till it sells. But materials you need to make more fuel and any building Fabs you can as cheap as you can to make another production item. Slowly return to Katoa. Make fuel and another production if you can. Repeat. [30-Sep-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: You did right buying H [30-Sep-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Travel as slow as you can to save fuel so you can sell more [30-Sep-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: ok... i will keep going and try to slow it down... thank you!! [30-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: is it worth it to setup orders at the collector/extractor that more or less time? [30-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I lost money my first 2 weeks and didnt see any real success till weeks 3. but I saved my downfal and have prospered since. Trick is to made mmore items you can sell and not waste fuel. [30-Sep-22 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: keep the batches to 1 [30-Sep-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: ok, that makes sense... its really the cost and use of workforce items to keep things going that has held me back so far [30-Sep-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Put up cheap shipping contract between BEN and KAT to move your supplies. People are making trips all the time and will pick up your stuff for you cheap/free. [30-Sep-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If COF is expensive, don't use it [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: He does not have a PRO licence [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: a shipping contract?? ... this may be a thing I am not understanding [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: I DO [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Yeah he does [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Camo has a rating... they have PRO [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: sorry [30-Sep-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: np [30-Sep-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Open the LM-live market and look for contracts you can do to make money. [30-Sep-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/local-markets/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/local-markets/ 8. Local Markets :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [30-Sep-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: Section in there regarding shipping contracts [30-Sep-22 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: thank you [30-Sep-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I wouldn't point new players toward the Local market early into the game [30-Sep-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: i will be conservative and careful now; but thank you for the information [30-Sep-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: and as Merrich said you can send your goods with a contract. RNG me and many others would move your stuff as well for like 5 cis/ton [30-Sep-22 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Merrich**: For shipping contract, hell yeah [30-Sep-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Just need to be careful with the LM. [30-Sep-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: true. [30-Sep-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: for some reason LM and LMA are illegal commands... am doing it wrong? [30-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: LM is an abriviation for Local market... not a command xD [30-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: yeh, i thought it was the buffer command too, sorry [30-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: to access those.. click on the planet.. and select the local market [30-Sep-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: ty [30-Sep-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: You can view all your bases by selecting BS on the left sidebar [30-Sep-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Also people may deal with you by contracts. I will send you a contract for 1000 FF and I will offer the same rate as at the CX as an example ok. [30-Sep-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: wow, ty guys/gals you have opened up my world here, i really appreciate it [30-Sep-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: sure, i think i have that available [30-Sep-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you are new, this video series helps a lot! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&t=41s {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=41 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [30-Sep-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: We all knew that was coming xD [30-Sep-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: ok great, thx RNG [30-Sep-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I sent a contract. Did you get it? [30-Sep-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: I did.... sooo, what do I do, LOL [30-Sep-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: reject or close to accept...if you like the conditions [30-Sep-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: now you have 1 day to send me the goods by using the contract [30-Sep-22 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: yayyy... that freaking rocks OMG, gamechanger [30-Sep-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ok, party on. Many people will help you understand things. Just ask and if we are around you will get help. many help here on Katoa. [30-Sep-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: yeh oits been great, everyone is super helpful, I really appreciate y'all, TY! [30-Sep-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So make a plan, work the plan. Learn and enjoy. [30-Sep-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: See ya around the universe [30-Sep-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CamoDragon**: for sure! :-) [30-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: BEN > Kat contract on LM [30-Sep-22 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrPorkchop** joined.* [30-Sep-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TobiasMage23** left.* [30-Sep-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midnyte** joined.* [30-Sep-22 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midnyte** left.* [30-Sep-22 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midnyte** joined.* [30-Sep-22 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0ead4fa8a6** left.* [30-Sep-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: buncha BEN > KAT contracts on LM [01-Oct-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some sizeable fuel purchases on the LM for any of you barons out there :) [01-Oct-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OUQUO**: Hello there, anyone interested in joining a corporation? FIO Corporation is looking for new companies to join our ranks. If you are interested in joining PM me or join our discord and read through our #welcome channel πŸ™‚Β https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [01-Oct-22 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sladkaya0401** joined.* [01-Oct-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jazzistik** joined.* [01-Oct-22 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c9f4705de** left.* [01-Oct-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kekekea** joined.* [01-Oct-22 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ve got a batch of MFL coming and have resources to do more SSL for anyone building or upgrading ships. Likewise the queue for cargo bays has shrunk down to about 7-10 days so please reach out if you’re interested. MFL 120k, SSL 40k, MCB 200-250k, LCB 350-400k [01-Oct-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can also arrange LFE, but similar wait times and not sure on price yet. Of course still also taking hull plate and SSC orders :) [01-Oct-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP 2250, LHP 1800 (bulk price), SSC 250 [01-Oct-22 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercfc5f79919** left.* [01-Oct-22 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: is biogenesis settled for the nitrogen, ammonia, or both, and is it a good location to mine ammonia compared to katoa [01-Oct-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf1b07c95b9** left.* [01-Oct-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0566d92db1** left.* [01-Oct-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfad41a1562** left.* [01-Oct-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user061ce57316** left.* [01-Oct-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: DW posted @ CXL ask. Any help appreciated thanks :) [01-Oct-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tooslider**: save yourself a delivery :) [01-Oct-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I also can make LFE, with wait time of ~3 days, price to be negotiated [01-Oct-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera586b201cd** left.* [01-Oct-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbbc5254e05** left.* [01-Oct-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user49d50ecb84** left.* [01-Oct-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: Evil C0rp is recruiting! we're a small but active corporation. we offer internal discounts on all the consumables for PIO, SET, TECH (except ALE and SCN), prefabs and some ship parts (e.g all you need to double the cargo capacity of starter ships). requirements: 30d+ basic or pro account, presence on our discord, willingness to offer discounts to corp members on your goods. please message me if you're interested [01-Oct-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ah, and base on Katoa is also a requirement, that's where most of our internal trades happen [01-Oct-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: become EV1L, we have cookies :) [01-Oct-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: and rumours about slave labour in our mines and cotton farms are just that- rumours ;) [01-Oct-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrOceanic** joined.* [01-Oct-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4f1bcd43cb** left.* [01-Oct-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: BEN > PROX ads up [01-Oct-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What ship parts are you guys selling? Have you got bridges or engines? [01-Oct-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1706654a7d** left.* [01-Oct-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Strangenewbie** joined.* [01-Oct-22 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FireFighterX919** joined.* [01-Oct-22 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userff71eb7aa7** left.* [02-Oct-22 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: for now we make LFE and cargo bays plus fuel tanks [02-Oct-22 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All the easy stuff same as me then :P [02-Oct-22 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes :) [02-Oct-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Slave labour? When I joined you told me the Pioneers I harvest and sell the organs from, where free people. I mean, I did put on my label "Organs from former free and happy pioneers". Noone told me that I sell battery-caged stuff. [02-Oct-22 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: ssshhhh.... nobody can prove anything [02-Oct-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: Living up to the Corp name I see :) [02-Oct-22 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: morning all [02-Oct-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: anyone need any BDE? [02-Oct-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: or ALO [02-Oct-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaese**: I can take some BDE. How many and at what price ? [02-Oct-22 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: me too :-D [02-Oct-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll always take BDE :) [02-Oct-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SHADNOST** joined.* [02-Oct-22 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: I have 27 available currently, 1200 each [02-Oct-22 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: i will take 12BDE, contract send [02-Oct-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***4F** joined.* [02-Oct-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user41dd38fd06** left.* [02-Oct-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Djarus** joined.* [02-Oct-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nikova** joined.* [02-Oct-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My weekly TWITCH stream starts shortly. Topic today is Feast & Famine: Strategies to deal with the supply of goods. Q & A, Noob questions welcome. Come join at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [02-Oct-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1ebcda4f36** left.* [02-Oct-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My TWITCH stream is over. If you wanna see it look here---https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [02-Oct-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morphine**: KAT > BEN ads up [02-Oct-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc4014027c0** left.* [02-Oct-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***w0lf3k** joined.* [02-Oct-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***w0lf3k** left.* [02-Oct-22 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***houc** joined.* [03-Oct-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8b4ebe3dff** left.* [03-Oct-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rayzhong2021** left.* [03-Oct-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apex_Aspera** left.* [03-Oct-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Midnyte**: Heading to BEN here shortly if anyone wants anything shipped out [03-Oct-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Insanium** joined.* [03-Oct-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lucutz** joined.* [03-Oct-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***egor** joined.* [03-Oct-22 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user775e798fbd** left.* [03-Oct-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11b9cce650** left.* [03-Oct-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raesins** left.* [03-Oct-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userffebedab08** left.* [03-Oct-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user42c412742f** left.* [03-Oct-22 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** left.* [03-Oct-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** joined.* [03-Oct-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user313215f70b** left.* [03-Oct-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T1mothi** joined.* [03-Oct-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vespukki** joined.* [03-Oct-22 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pypyo** joined.* [03-Oct-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vespukki**: damn daniel [03-Oct-22 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1eeb365943** left.* [03-Oct-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Midnyte**: Anyone need anything shipped from ben to Kotoa? 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[04-Oct-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: yes we have been able to get production up on C so are trying to bring the price down for customers [04-Oct-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wel lfor you still 500 :-) [04-Oct-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've always been special, it's true [04-Oct-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Get it down low enough I'll buy the whole lot again :) [04-Oct-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: :-) [04-Oct-22 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol [04-Oct-22 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nikova** left.* [04-Oct-22 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere0265d88c5** left.* [04-Oct-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Evil C0rp is recruiting! we're a small but active corporation. We offer internal discounts on all the basic consumables, prefabs and some ship parts. Requirements: 30d+ basic or pro account, presence on our discord, willingness to offer discounts to corp members on your goods. Please message me if you're interested [04-Oct-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deliriouspsycho2**: I would be willing to join. But dont have much idea, how to apply :) [04-Oct-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: join our discord [04-Oct-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: https://discord.gg/awMSAtry [04-Oct-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8f24d07219** left.* [04-Oct-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yesotope** joined.* [04-Oct-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epiphsny** left.* [04-Oct-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Allmaker** left.* [04-Oct-22 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb53d5fd1f1** left.* [04-Oct-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: the benten water crisis is still going strong damn [04-Oct-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: It is not a crisis...its an opportunity! Many are enjoying this and making good money. But, you and I are not amoung them lol [04-Oct-22 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RainWalker** joined.* [04-Oct-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soraphale** joined.* [04-Oct-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Posted four A-tier micro hauls from KAT to UMB at crazy price (2000 for 9m3 total) because I'm in a bit of a hurry. [04-Oct-22 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx for fill [04-Oct-22 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DepressedAF** left.* [04-Oct-22 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MidgeeDaniels** left.* [05-Oct-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2c0b5ab225** left.* [05-Oct-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: nobody came to me or neke for a etherwind base to supply the cx :shrug: [05-Oct-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Maybe in some weeks I would feel confident enough to try such thing. [05-Oct-22 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im saving up the BSEs needed for my ETherwind base plan 444 needed lol [05-Oct-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 33 BDE available, dm to buy [05-Oct-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmallKittyPaws** left.* [05-Oct-22 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nice, we’re planning another water base on another planet. CHOAM will deliver eventually for the masses, will be my third or fourth drought breaker lol [05-Oct-22 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But might be a while yet.. [05-Oct-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If I would join on Etherwind to provide water for the cx. What would be the conditions? I mean I could keep one of my ships running constantly there and back and could calculate a fair price. [05-Oct-22 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I guess [05-Oct-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera531ea5ffb** left.* [05-Oct-22 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RainWalker**: how do you make drinking water [05-Oct-22 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: As far es I now you need a food processer (factory). There are several recipes how to make DW from H2O [05-Oct-22 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user92f789f088** left.* [05-Oct-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dratir** joined.* [05-Oct-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DreenWorm** joined.* [05-Oct-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordBecher** joined.* [05-Oct-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***x-axis** joined.* [05-Oct-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4bf14fac84** left.* [05-Oct-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hoboman** joined.* [05-Oct-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Foolinq2** joined.* [05-Oct-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spas** joined.* [05-Oct-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm looking for 10k PE - ad is up, or send me your own proposal [05-Oct-22 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user62a74864d3** left.* [05-Oct-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere04e53ee89** left.* [05-Oct-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spacemochi** joined.* [05-Oct-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Does anyone know the XIT command to display the settings dialog for PMMG Extended? [05-Oct-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Got them... [05-Oct-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koschinovs** joined.* [05-Oct-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doner_Meat** joined.* [05-Oct-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***betocorp** joined.* [05-Oct-22 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7f2c13c43a** left.* [05-Oct-22 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaskStrength** left.* [05-Oct-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: GOVERNANCE: Taxes have been reverted on Manufacturing across the board and higher tier Electronic ENGs to catch the COGC beneficiaries and MM farming. This level of taxation is where it was some weeks ago before I cut it briefly before the handover so let's not gripe too much. [05-Oct-22 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The reduced taxation meant we're running a $300k loss, which is not what I want to hand over to @SeaPear. 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[06-Oct-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: He did campaign with the promise to drastically increase the taxes, once he took over the government. :-) [06-Oct-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sounds like valid strategy to win some votes :) [06-Oct-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol yep [06-Oct-22 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh ok, in that Case KCC will support his campaign, lets see how he does [06-Oct-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: I have a strange feeling here. Like we are the only living company and all others, except a few exceptions like Neke, Karr and a few others are bots. [06-Oct-22 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Have you talked to your therapists about these feelings? [06-Oct-22 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: "hello, people and bots"... [06-Oct-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I just listened to this in the last hour :) [06-Oct-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: anyway, The Rapist won't help here [06-Oct-22 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sceleton** left.* [06-Oct-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlanGreenspan** left.* [06-Oct-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8d514c1911** left.* [06-Oct-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: That's therapist mr. Connery [06-Oct-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RavenCZ** joined.* [06-Oct-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***riceProblem** joined.* [06-Oct-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***riceProblem** left.* [06-Oct-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FireFox_Is_Here** joined.* [06-Oct-22 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdf7f256e62** left.* [06-Oct-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Shipping Ben -> Katoa with 400/400 avalible leaving ~1 hour. Post ad or let me know [06-Oct-22 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: im sure i would be doing much better if i was a bot haha [06-Oct-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Bot, people---we all want to have a prosperous universe [06-Oct-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: wait isnt this a single player game? [06-Oct-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Tellt hat to your corp mates. [06-Oct-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: hahaha your auto correct changed slaves to mates, right? [06-Oct-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: :-) [06-Oct-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dead_mans_army** left.* [06-Oct-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone have spare VG for sale? I would need 2pcs [06-Oct-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user62645d8058** left.* [06-Oct-22 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user09384257f6** left.* [06-Oct-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraca286e5ce** left.* [07-Oct-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6c33b0cd5a** left.* [07-Oct-22 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RainWalker** left.* [07-Oct-22 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Election ends in 13h30 I want to thank everyone for the strong show of support for SeaPear ! [07-Oct-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm going to go to bed and wake up not Governor [07-Oct-22 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: _sniff_ [07-Oct-22 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've paid for one last Planetary Festivity III so we can all party through the transition with a very happy workforce [07-Oct-22 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: Just think, when you wake up, there will be higher taxes [07-Oct-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: My first order of business will be to fill a pool with all my tax money and swim in it [07-Oct-22 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZtrouchnivelyAstronaut** joined.* [07-Oct-22 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: works for me! [07-Oct-22 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: πŸ˜… [07-Oct-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfdb1c043bc** left.* [07-Oct-22 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd5abff2140** left.* [07-Oct-22 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercb956dd0c5** left.* [07-Oct-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8028dbfd93** left.* [07-Oct-22 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: any Katoans interested in grabbing LFE before I move it to CX? [07-Oct-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: how many do you have? [07-Oct-22 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 2 queued currently, potentially 6 within a few days [07-Oct-22 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Just had a look and realized that I have everything to produce 4 units myself. but thanks anyway [07-Oct-22 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: :D [07-Oct-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8a652199a7** left.* [07-Oct-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4917918260** left.* [07-Oct-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TastyBacon** joined.* [07-Oct-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EdHunter91** joined.* [07-Oct-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3c96ebf735** left.* [07-Oct-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Le roi est mort, vive le roi! [07-Oct-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: oh, a new govenor? [07-Oct-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yup! [07-Oct-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tollhouse** joined.* [07-Oct-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: congratulations @SeaPear [07-Oct-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user822e385080** left.* [07-Oct-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Gilith, I'd be interested in a LFE, sent a PM [07-Oct-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beinded** joined.* [07-Oct-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb77df1a577** left.* [07-Oct-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: why? [07-Oct-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I stepped down :) [07-Oct-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: why? [07-Oct-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: busy irl, playing less [07-Oct-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: > > Cheap CLI on UV-072c. Three lots of 206 units (500t) for 10k neat. [07-Oct-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: do you sell Iodine too? [07-Oct-22 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsMellowMan** joined.* [07-Oct-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I think there is "cheap" iodine for 300/u over at Ant... [07-Oct-22 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can sell Iodine [07-Oct-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I dont usually keep large stock of it though [07-Oct-22 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cos I make MHL out of it in bulk [07-Oct-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: happy to supply MHL [07-Oct-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not much economic incentive to sell Iodine at 300/u [07-Oct-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: got 32 MHL here can sell them for 1600 each [07-Oct-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I use iodine to keep my WEL busy when not using it for other things; I'd take up to 30 of it- please send me the contract with whatever price you think is fair [07-Oct-22 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***United_Federation** joined.* [07-Oct-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **United_Federation**: Havnt figured this out yet. Can't figure out where to begin [07-Oct-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: The handbook or the videos are a good way. Or the discord [07-Oct-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you are new, this video series helps a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&t=41s {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=41 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [07-Oct-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: in an empty buffer use the command HELP and watch the videos. They are old but will get you starting to understand. [07-Oct-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: also as you see several here will help you [07-Oct-22 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1b36ec92cf** left.* [07-Oct-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb03527fe09** left.* [07-Oct-22 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sparker5055N** joined.* [07-Oct-22 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sparker5055N**: LO [08-Oct-22 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hey there [08-Oct-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9149a195aa** left.* [08-Oct-22 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***saywhat** joined.* [08-Oct-22 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user263343faa5** left.* [08-Oct-22 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user169275daab** left.* [08-Oct-22 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2acc6de8ee** left.* [08-Oct-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sangreal** left.* [08-Oct-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jet4687** left.* [08-Oct-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DesertFox7679** left.* [08-Oct-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZestyBreakfast** left.* [08-Oct-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mike0xlong** joined.* [08-Oct-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc4bcb31328** left.* [08-Oct-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1f001fd7d4** left.* [08-Oct-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5023306fe0** left.* [09-Oct-22 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: oh wow... Katoa down to +16 Ghost plots. [09-Oct-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Max_Matheny** joined.* [09-Oct-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jda1** joined.* [09-Oct-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Benten Station -> Katoa; 400 free cargo space; departing in appr. 30 min [09-Oct-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yawnder** joined.* [09-Oct-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Landstradd** joined.* [09-Oct-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***heehee46** left.* [09-Oct-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Archael** joined.* [09-Oct-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My weekly TWITCH stream is about to start. Topic: That new Base. When where & how. Q&A Noob questions welcome. Come watch it at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [09-Oct-22 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: TWITCH stream over. If you wanna see it you can see the video here: https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [09-Oct-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userccf182c61f** left.* [09-Oct-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I had an out of area player contact me about STR. I don't mave a lot of BMPs. If anyone here has a few BMPs they wanna put to use message me and I will forward this players contact info. He wants a weekly regular supply. [09-Oct-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wonder why [09-Oct-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: they're of literally no use except as infirmary upkeep [09-Oct-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: who is it? [09-Oct-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: thats what they want them for. You interested in supplying? [09-Oct-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not really, more interested what planet its going to [09-Oct-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thye might use other stuff as well [09-Oct-22 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I' [09-Oct-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have buy orders for STR up myself [09-Oct-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well then looks like someone needs to start a production of them as there are 2 or more looking for it [09-Oct-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh I make my own as a last resort [09-Oct-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and offer premium bid on the CX for them [09-Oct-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: my AL needs to be spent on hull plates and other things [09-Oct-22 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: ^ [09-Oct-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I have a very good idea who that may be [09-Oct-22 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: as for that STR bid... I had a couple about xD [10-Oct-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yawnder** left.* [10-Oct-22 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Duwen_Blade**: 7.5 for 100 STL someone grab it pls :D [10-Oct-22 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'm waiting for the news reports about someone loading steel into the fuel tank ;) [10-Oct-22 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I was so curious that I accepted this ad. Now I wait for goods to arrive. I will let you know what was inside :) [10-Oct-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I hope for enough steel to make a profit :) [10-Oct-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bipolar_Bear** left.* [10-Oct-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BabyYoda** joined.* [10-Oct-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elssuy** joined.* [10-Oct-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirBananaShadow** joined.* [10-Oct-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kylejeffery81** left.* [10-Oct-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zeetu** left.* [10-Oct-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FireWinja** joined.* [10-Oct-22 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AngrySaxon** joined.* [10-Oct-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have two FTL ships available for shipping jobs while I have a pause in my logistics. One is 1000/1000 and the other is 2000/2000. If you'd like to contract either or both of these in the next 24hrs let me know. [10-Oct-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Both ships are here on katoa [10-Oct-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maey** joined.* [10-Oct-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draxzter** left.* [10-Oct-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chrispytoes** joined.* [10-Oct-22 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***saywhat** left.* [10-Oct-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coldslaw** joined.* [11-Oct-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PinkZanny** joined.* [11-Oct-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cinviens** left.* [11-Oct-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBigRig** joined.* [11-Oct-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3634d632c1** left.* [11-Oct-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7dcf10ff9d** left.* [11-Oct-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theoldshadow** joined.* [11-Oct-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theoldshadow** left.* [11-Oct-22 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theoldshadow** joined.* [11-Oct-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 63 BDE available @1500/u, dm to order [11-Oct-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***4F** left.* [11-Oct-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Actiongameinc2** joined.* [11-Oct-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @neke, please check your DM. I would like to rent one of those ships. [11-Oct-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: aye mate will do, need to get to a laptop [11-Oct-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: too hard to calculate on mobile [11-Oct-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ok :) [11-Oct-22 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T1mothi** left.* [11-Oct-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have one GEN availabe and for sale at Benten STN CX. If you don't like the price contact me for a fair trade offer. Will accept part coin/part trade. [11-Oct-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want free shipping TO benten station? [11-Oct-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: imminent departure [11-Oct-22 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 800tm3 available [11-Oct-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: departing [11-Oct-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Duwen_Blade**: im late huh :D [11-Oct-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah all gone sorry [11-Oct-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone is free to send me shipping contracts KAT<>BEN, either direction, any size, at 7 CIS/tm3 and it'll be shipped within 50% within 12 hours, 95% within 24 hours and 99% within 48 hours. No need for arranging, just send contract at right price no questions asked. [11-Oct-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We haul anything you need using a heavily vetted crew of ex-Government contractors who know all the ins and outs of Benten and Katoa customs clearing, shipping lanes, security protocols and more. We'll never question your cargo so long as you never question our methods. Delivery is guaranteed. [11-Oct-22 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I've sent you one, please accept now so that I can provision it; sadly, auto-provisioning doesn't work for private shipments [11-Oct-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chrispytoes** left.* [11-Oct-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chrispytoes** joined.* [11-Oct-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeap that's okay, it's a bit of a pain but I will always factor it into shipping concerns :) [11-Oct-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just gotta make sure the contract you send allows for that [11-Oct-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tezyr** joined.* [11-Oct-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***electron** joined.* [11-Oct-22 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vespukki** left.* [11-Oct-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ibebad77** joined.* [12-Oct-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’ll be bringing some LST via Katoa in 12-18 hours, would be 60/unit, not sure exact quantity but if you want some drop me a DM in the next 12 hours otherwise it’s off to the CX [12-Oct-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aaahhhheggss** left.* [12-Oct-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Angin** joined.* [12-Oct-22 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yardonvanzijtveld** joined.* [12-Oct-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***anshhhhhh1234** joined.* [12-Oct-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AggisTheFab** left.* [12-Oct-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jebsovelcharnesky** joined.* [12-Oct-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Ok. 1000CIS per electronics job for my engineering labs... I'll move my electronics production somewhere else. I would understand it if we had electronics bonuses. [12-Oct-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Greedy governors... [12-Oct-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I hear ya. I had intensions of electrical expansion on Katoa but with that 1000 tax NO WAY. I will set up electronics elsewise. Unfortunately a lot of my other support things are leaving Katoa as well. [12-Oct-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: I'm setting up some manufacturing stuff here, as 20% is quite a bit bonus. Maybe Canuck should run for gov? :D [12-Oct-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Not enough time for me atm [12-Oct-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I am not interested in gov of such a big planet [12-Oct-22 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Well yea, it's quite a handful. Neke did an ok job, but he retired unfortunately [12-Oct-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Lets see how the next few weeks go. The elec tax has been in placefor several weeks so thats not on our new gov. [12-Oct-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Yea, that kind of tax cuts down profits real bad. I have most of my software stuff soon running in Malahat [12-Oct-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: No tax + elec bonus [12-Oct-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: And possibility for scientist stuff,as I want to do some WAIs :) [12-Oct-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Neke didn't want to go for scientists [12-Oct-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Has anyone noticed the unemployment numbers are up for settlers, techs and engineers? I know the number of them is up a little but I think a few are removing production out. [12-Oct-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Yea, I used to have around 500 engs [12-Oct-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: down to 170 now [12-Oct-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: But it looks sustainable now, I'll be needing some still for my APF's [12-Oct-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I have been moving chem operations to Umbra so I have 300 or so less settlers. [12-Oct-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: But I intend to add manufacturing to get some back in a week [12-Oct-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Aye, I'm in a process of complete rehaul of my bases... Chems to Umbra is part of it :) [12-Oct-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Just looking at a logistics nightmare... Prolly want another ship :D [12-Oct-22 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Don't we all. lol [12-Oct-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: haven't really changed facilities except for adding another COL. I've already calculated my tax burden if it was set to max.... and I'd still not change anything [12-Oct-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yesotope** left.* [12-Oct-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Just the Elec/eng being at max, I can cut down my overall production fees over 50%. Then when the planet is electronics focused, additional 20% production is really nice [12-Oct-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I bet it would be. Malahat isn;t exactly close though [12-Oct-22 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Thought about moving for a while, as the location is really good here in Katoa with CX and other good planets close by. [12-Oct-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Thing is with elecs, you don't have to make supply runs that often [12-Oct-22 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Yes, agree. Katoa is a great place, just bad for upper electronics. [12-Oct-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: electronic's looks nice, but I'm not eager to jump down that money pit [12-Oct-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Yea, repairs get really expensive... [12-Oct-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: lol, well tqre guess I'll see ya at the botton [12-Oct-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: have enough planets to sort and build-up as it is [12-Oct-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: going to stick to manufacturing.. I've set myself up for it [12-Oct-22 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Djarus** left.* [12-Oct-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I was looking into making some LCs, but between the HDs and PCBs... there isn't room for profit unless you're vertical [12-Oct-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: lets just give the weak AIs the right to vote and the gov and taxes will change :D [12-Oct-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ellie5235** joined.* [12-Oct-22 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: survival of the fittest will determine which WAIs will fully become ALs [12-Oct-22 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: AIs* [12-Oct-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: exactly. humans might become obsolete in the process, but it's all for the better ;) [12-Oct-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: lol. For the better, really. I see George Orwell's "Animal Farm" here somewhere. [12-Oct-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Orwell is also obsolete. Check out Quantum Thief from Hannu RajamΓ€ki [12-Oct-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tqre**: Rajaniemi actually, always confuse them [12-Oct-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: This sounds worse than Isaac Asimov'sIsaac Asimov's "I, Robot" [12-Oct-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I'll throw Charles Stross, "Accelerando" onto that pile [12-Oct-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: No, not a pile of books. now we heading for Ray Bradury's "Fahrenheit 451". [12-Oct-22 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: haha true [12-Oct-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I need a vacation...I am off to Larry Niven's "Dream Park". See you all when I get back. [12-Oct-22 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SHADNOST** left.* [12-Oct-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I'm gonna side with SeaPear on this one. Anything running above techs is super expensive for population infrastructure. [12-Oct-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: And the cost per day for just consumables for engineers is crazy high. If $1k/day is gonna break your engineers, something else is wrong [12-Oct-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: If a few engineers leave, less burden for the tax base [12-Oct-22 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melman** left.* [12-Oct-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: So says the man you constantly votes against Manufacturing for the COGC. Also by having harsh tax on elec engineers about 150 other space production gets moved away of support industry. So there goes a lot more tax. [12-Oct-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Proxion is just across the way xD [12-Oct-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I hope everyone votes for what best suits them. I used to run pure GAL extractors, now farms and FERs so Manufacturing does nothing for me. [12-Oct-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: well, engis upkeep is expensive anyway, the tax is not that bad. what is unfair IMO is high taxes only for electronics and manufacturing eng. not that I care, I don't maintain engineers at katoa [12-Oct-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Maybe Neke or Seapear can pipe in with the costs for running the Art Gallery? [12-Oct-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: All OK Gravy it was not a personal shot just letting people know where your view stands against the majority on the planet. I also votes for pioneers when I was very new as it would of been better for me. I can respect voting as you see best for you [12-Oct-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: The KOM must flow! (it's critical to Benten) [12-Oct-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: FYI: By my calculation if the Art Galery relied on taxes spent on the needed items at the CX the maintenance is 6450 per day [12-Oct-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I know both SeaPear and neke got the maintenance supplies usually lower than CX price. [12-Oct-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: With 1080 working engineers thats 6-7 cis per day needed to run it. So say 650 CIS per 100 engineers. the working engineers are paying a lot more than that. [12-Oct-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grandpa_Canuck** deleted this message.* [12-Oct-22 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RallyPandaTV** joined.* [12-Oct-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mooiwijf** joined.* [12-Oct-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What ENG electronics are people running that are being hampered by the 1k tax bracket? [12-Oct-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: specifically [12-Oct-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not "was thinking about" or "soon" or "I just disagree" [12-Oct-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm running a few hundred ENG in SEs and paying the bill no problems, with a healthy profit margin. [12-Oct-22 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Same for the 4 CLRs and SD that I run :) [12-Oct-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The last time I calculated actual POPI costs in a spot check for the handover to SeaPear, the ART cost ~82,000/week for 12 MHP, 12 HOG, 7 UTS per week. [12-Oct-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But on top of that was the ENG Immigration program that had usually been running [12-Oct-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: which was 80k neat [12-Oct-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I had been paying proper rates to regular local suppliers, there's no corp pricing and no scrambling to find resources. If you wish to move high end electronics off to another planet that actually suits whoever remains, less competition ;) [12-Oct-22 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: drives prices up, and usually far more than 20% + fuel and time [12-Oct-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: Does efficiency effect tax? For example I pay 540 CIS a day for APF. 20 ENG / 60 TEC. Running at %160 efficiency [12-Oct-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [12-Oct-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [12-Oct-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [12-Oct-22 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That was incorrect actually, it's tax per order [12-Oct-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: actually I just checked the tax rates, its double for 24h please correct me if I'm wrong on the math [12-Oct-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes, efficiency effects tax [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: It takes 30h for me to craft RCS, taxed 675 CIS for it [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the taxes shown on the local rules are for 100% eff. [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: so 540 CIS per 24h [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Have you tried changing efficiency and checking order fees? [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just moved experts around and the fees didn't change [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: yes let me type it out [12-Oct-22 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: APF takes 20 ENG / 60 TEC [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: ENG 600 CIS * 0.2 = 120 [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: TEC 250 * 0.6 = 270 [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: %100 speed sum is 270 [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: but my production line is at %160 [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: yet I pay double of %100 rate [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: 540 a day [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: what am I missing? [12-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes that's right, because it's tax per order [12-Oct-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nothing, you got it [12-Oct-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I had it wrong in the deleted messages [12-Oct-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: its off though, my daily tax is 540 it should be 270 * 1.6 [12-Oct-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: 430 a day [12-Oct-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Where are you getting the daily tax number from [12-Oct-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: just getting from RCS, it costs 675 CIS and takes 30h to complete = 540 CIS a day for my %160 production line [12-Oct-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: keeping it easy: local manufacturing tax is 100/day.. at 160% eff. that is 160/day (per building). [12-Oct-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: my settler manufacturing buildings reflect that adding their taxes up for the day [12-Oct-22 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I'm confused now too, can't make my CLR fees line up for the 25 SET and 15 TEC [12-Oct-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: I checked the other buildings. BMP, PFF and WPL all work according to %100 * efficiency factor [12-Oct-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh I have it, was a spreadsheet error [12-Oct-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sounds like it [12-Oct-22 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not something a Governor can fix with tax brackets :P [12-Oct-22 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: its SeaPear's problem now xD [12-Oct-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: we need capitalism, %20 tax on PIO, %30 SET, %40 on TEC and %1 for the ENG, SCI [12-Oct-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: 20%/30% Tax on PIO/SET we would need some CoGC benefits. [12-Oct-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Unlike real capitalism though, if you massively underfund ENG/SCI, it is the upper classes taht fail [12-Oct-22 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not the lower :) [12-Oct-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **adonis_nicholas**: we all know upper %10 pays %1 tax IRL :D [12-Oct-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: lol true [12-Oct-22 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody need to sell me some Oxygen cheap? [12-Oct-22 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***evaK** left.* [12-Oct-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: I'll be honest and say that if you think I read this, or catch up on this daily, I don't. If you have a real issue, most of you know where to reach me on discord, so please do. Lets keep this civil, i listen to all opinions. [12-Oct-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrustMe707** left.* [13-Oct-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jordhey** joined.* [13-Oct-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone like to place an order to my SKF? The queue is finally done. [13-Oct-22 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I would like to buy MFL [13-Oct-22 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will take some SFK [13-Oct-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DasRallum** deleted this message.* [13-Oct-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: oh.. SKF... sorry I misread [13-Oct-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user23f4bde380** left.* [13-Oct-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***badbadtoad** joined.* [13-Oct-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***roydavidson73** joined.* [13-Oct-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***x-axis** left.* [13-Oct-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user52363b523a** left.* [13-Oct-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userea931746b9** left.* [13-Oct-22 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6551553b70** left.* [13-Oct-22 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spacemochi** left.* [13-Oct-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh I have plenty of FS outputs too @DasRallum [13-Oct-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SFK? [13-Oct-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ibebad77** left.* [13-Oct-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: send me a DM [13-Oct-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***electron** left.* [13-Oct-22 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doner_Meat** left.* [13-Oct-22 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***betocorp** left.* [13-Oct-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***moneybagboyz** joined.* [13-Oct-22 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Szard** left.* [13-Oct-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thanks for the offer, but someone was faster this time. 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I sent you a DM [15-Oct-22 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: 13@2600 H buy order up in LM. Backfilling for a missed delivery. [15-Oct-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DogeGejmrYX** joined.* [15-Oct-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thanks for filling. 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Topic: "Pass your Gas". Open discussion, Q&A on all things gas. Noob questions welcome. Come to https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck to watch. {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [16-Oct-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Stream over. If you missed it look it up on my TWITCH homepage. [16-Oct-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3857e6d311** left.* [16-Oct-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Taking orders for LHP/BHP. First come, first served. [16-Oct-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BHP @ 2,200 [16-Oct-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LHP @ 1,800 [16-Oct-22 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***indep** left.* [16-Oct-22 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just send contracts, 3-days length for orders <24, 5-days for >24 units. I'll get them done much faster [16-Oct-22 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Playing from mobile these days, cutting down on admin and overheads :) [17-Oct-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have a ship on BEN bound for Katoa with 1600t free. does anybody need anything shipped? [17-Oct-22 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: send me contracts for 3/u [17-Oct-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cavemanshotyou** left.* [17-Oct-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bananas43** joined.* [17-Oct-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Max_Matheny** left.* [17-Oct-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb161123712** left.* [17-Oct-22 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jda1** left.* [17-Oct-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheExcalibur** joined.* [17-Oct-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mike0xlong** left.* [17-Oct-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ni26680874** joined.* [17-Oct-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2399a7efee** left.* [17-Oct-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RavenCZ** left.* [17-Oct-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Archael** left.* [17-Oct-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JulianB2** joined.* [17-Oct-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: LST 183@7500 on Proxion LM. excess inventory. [17-Oct-22 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: Sold. [17-Oct-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stereotypicalsam** joined.* [17-Oct-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***coolwave8** left.* [17-Oct-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 22 BHP and 42 LHP in stock [17-Oct-22 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: up to 40 units of STL (Steel) as well [17-Oct-22 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Listed on the LM @ 900/u, compared to STL.CI1 [17-Oct-22 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And sold :) [18-Oct-22 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Evil C0rp is recruiting! We're a small but active corporation. We offer reasonable internal discounts and mutual support, without limiting the freedom of each member. Requirements: 30d+ basic or pro account, presence on our discord and of course willingness cooperate. Please message me if you're interested. [18-Oct-22 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: There is no truth to the rumours that our RATs contain chicken meat. 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[19-Oct-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cka1228** joined.* [19-Oct-22 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3d6eedb87** left.* [19-Oct-22 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @karr1981 I have them on BEN [19-Oct-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: on cxl? none available [19-Oct-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: ahh you filled my buy, ty [19-Oct-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: yw [19-Oct-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mutavault** joined.* [19-Oct-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazmat** joined.* [19-Oct-22 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Shipping Ben -> Katoa 200t/200m avalible. Leaving in ~1 hour. [19-Oct-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: nvm.... that was quick [19-Oct-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiegoRey** joined.* [19-Oct-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Beanieman**: hello people, I am new to this game [19-Oct-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome to Katoa [19-Oct-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there [19-Oct-22 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Beanieman**: hi [19-Oct-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Beanieman**: how do I tell what a resource extractor creates before I make it? [19-Oct-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Beanieman**: or build it? [19-Oct-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Welcome. [19-Oct-22 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Beanieman, extractors can only hit deposits on the planet. [19-Oct-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: so if you build a COL you can get either AMM or O [19-Oct-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: If you open a new buffer na use the command PLI UV-351a that will show you the planet info [19-Oct-22 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Check out what resources this planet has [19-Oct-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Beanieman**: thx bro [19-Oct-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: the info will show you Katoa has O and AMM in atmosphiric so can be gathered by a collector [19-Oct-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: If you are new, this video series helps a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&t=41s {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=41 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [19-Oct-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: best of luck. [19-Oct-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Beanieman**: k thx for the help [19-Oct-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***strictlySpeaking** joined.* [19-Oct-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Actiongameinc2** left.* [19-Oct-22 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: who has the keys to my bimma? 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[19-Oct-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone be interested in selling me AMM at, uh, friendlier prices than the CX [19-Oct-22 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Exchange favours can be arranged [20-Oct-22 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @neke sure ... write me in discord ;) [20-Oct-22 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done deal [20-Oct-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: mmm [20-Oct-22 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that is some quality ammonia [20-Oct-22 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi @ everyone [20-Oct-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hey there [20-Oct-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ahmurhama**: hello! [20-Oct-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi [20-Oct-22 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Angin** left.* [20-Oct-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***anshhhhhh1234** left.* [20-Oct-22 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ballschungus** joined.* [20-Oct-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yardonvanzijtveld** left.* [20-Oct-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazmat**: Hi there neighbors anyone willing to sell BSE BBH BDE and/or MCG locally? [20-Oct-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DonnerBoss** joined.* [20-Oct-22 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **cka1228**: is there a good starting guide yall would reccomend [20-Oct-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&t=41s {Embed} SeaPear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4&start=41 Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire! Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q_e6-VcxFstRhfaGjSifPnCLkL2XMBXY1e2DFNUQT-Q/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5jkQvL7xDL4/maxresdefault.jpg [20-Oct-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Katoa is not know to be prefabs production center but if you post ad with decent price I'm sure someone will sell it [20-Oct-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ellie5235** left.* [20-Oct-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jmcraptor**: Hi neighbors. I'm currently a fuel refiner but I'm thinking about expanding into a different industry here on katoa or in a nearby system. Any recommendations? [20-Oct-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: @jmcraptor same here, fuel refiner looking to expand to my first base and another industry. I'm currently looking at either producing some basic consumables or going into prefabs [20-Oct-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: you would get the most benefit (planet bonuses) from manufacturing. [20-Oct-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: prefabs is a good idea and it will save you a lot of money on expansion. [20-Oct-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: not to mention there is low supply and high demand. [20-Oct-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: as for nearby planets- umbra is good for chemistry, and as a bonus you can get hydrogen there for your fuel production [20-Oct-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jmcraptor**: Thank for the advice. In that case I'll look into doing prefabs [20-Oct-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vanadiom** joined.* [20-Oct-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaliDualGoddess** left.* [20-Oct-22 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can bring LST down for your prefabs [20-Oct-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m looking to purchase PG. I need (eventually) 5,600 units but I’d take any amount in multiples of 400 [20-Oct-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you can supply, hit me up to discuss price :) [20-Oct-22 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @neke DM send [20-Oct-22 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***glitchhappens** left.* [20-Oct-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mooiwijf** left.* [20-Oct-22 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RallyPandaTV** left.* [20-Oct-22 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***agrippa1307** joined.* [20-Oct-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDementedSpidey** left.* [21-Oct-22 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DheTwenty** left.* [21-Oct-22 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***motykus** left.* [21-Oct-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jordhey** left.* [21-Oct-22 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yissadon** left.* [21-Oct-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Ship going from Umbra to Benten Station, 350t/400mΒ² free space [21-Oct-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: starting in 1 hour [21-Oct-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gec** joined.* [21-Oct-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: ok, ship full and started already. [21-Oct-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera41ec64e4a** left.* [21-Oct-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BanFSOG**: Am I insane for doing farming on Katoa? Just starting out [21-Oct-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: @BanFSOG check your dirrect messages [21-Oct-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JGatlik** left.* [21-Oct-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stevendog98** left.* [21-Oct-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Farming can be good. it's not as effective as on other planets, but there is definitly demand here for it. So you can sell it derectly instead of import it. [21-Oct-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: No if you're doing it to cut your opex on your starter planet. Yes if that's the only product you're selling. [21-Oct-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jebsovelcharnesky** left.* [21-Oct-22 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I started out doing Agriculture here :) It’s a flexible start [21-Oct-22 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can sell high margin grain and HCP to the Carbon makers usually, RCO is selling for a fortune, and with a single FP you can feed yourself for a long time [21-Oct-22 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There is obviously better farming elsewhere but if you’re doing it here you can cut down transport costs and there’s less competition [21-Oct-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: My first 2 months of play I successfully farmed on Katoa. [21-Oct-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **VerdeV**: I still produce a lot of RAT/DW on Kat, though not enough to meet all the needs of my other two bases. [21-Oct-22 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that eventually happens as you expand outwards [21-Oct-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I stil produce much of my DW on Katoa. [21-Oct-22 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: and I have 10 rigs there still as my major water supply [21-Oct-22 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wish I could tax buildings specifically [21-Oct-22 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I wish I could put electronics buildings on Katoa without getting taxes as much as manufacturing buildings. [21-Oct-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What do you want to put down? [21-Oct-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have four CLRs, they pay about ~108 CIS/d in taxes [21-Oct-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (each) [21-Oct-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: ELP [21-Oct-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ah yeah all TEC [21-Oct-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll fix that shortly :) [21-Oct-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Although I think I had it around 100-200 iirc, with Manufacturing higher [21-Oct-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but an ELP should be turning out 60-200k/d in revenue [21-Oct-22 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 270 CIS shouldn't really matter :) [21-Oct-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I understand the tax of elec engineers because of the SE but taxing them hard stops me from putting a DRS up [21-Oct-22 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well, a DRS contributes nothing anyway [21-Oct-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it's for MM farming and nothing else [21-Oct-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Is I wanna set a larger electronic group then I can move alll to another place easier. [21-Oct-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well less tax on elec than manufacturing for techs is half my worry [21-Oct-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Manufacturing should be the highest, I definitely agree [21-Oct-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: agree [21-Oct-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm building a matrix so when I set them next I can see exactly what it is per building [21-Oct-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The current system is really quite counter intuitive [21-Oct-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: makes it difficult to get anything right, exacerbated by there being ZERO visibility into what's on the planet [21-Oct-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I ran surveys twice and both times go tless than a dozen replies [21-Oct-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Well my production is an open book. Just load up a past TWITCH stream I did and skim for when I show my bases. [21-Oct-22 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Want another ship? Troubled by the amount of cash ya need to do it? Well come and offer me a trade of products for a GEN and save your hard earned coins. Now taking offers of bulk goods, semi products and ship parts. [21-Oct-22 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gluttony** joined.* [21-Oct-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anyone running smelters here? [22-Oct-22 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Goresh**: I have 2 SME for my own prefab needs [22-Oct-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***A-Non** left.* [22-Oct-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mallum** joined.* [22-Oct-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user705f439e35** left.* [22-Oct-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SRS-RTS** joined.* [22-Oct-22 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: You want to upgrade your starter ship with bigger cargobay? 1000t? or maybe 3000t? I can provide all key components for that. Send DM for more details. 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Topic: Ship Building Bottlenecks. Discusion, Q&A, Noob questions welcome. Come join us at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [23-Oct-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hexLuci** left.* [23-Oct-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fjolnir** joined.* [23-Oct-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Stream over. If you midded it you can see the vid here: https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [23-Oct-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldenG** left.* [23-Oct-22 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SKPNeon** left.* [23-Oct-22 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: 380 t cargo space from Katoa to BEN leaving in 40 min. Arrival in 13 hours. 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[24-Oct-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: The RAT strikers are being punished with lower DW allocation so we're good for the time being :) [24-Oct-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Very well. Best of luck. [24-Oct-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bavell**: I appreciate the quick fulfillment! [24-Oct-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YetAnotherSlave** joined.* [24-Oct-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hawk0714** joined.* [24-Oct-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: I have 600 OFF I need to sell if any governors want to help a guy out. [24-Oct-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @Daharius Price? [24-Oct-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: wow, xensored is quick! [24-Oct-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: need to buy 500-1000 OFF next days, so I was happy to read this ;) [24-Oct-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: That would certainly do it. [24-Oct-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: There was a lot of volume at 100-150 for OFF in BEN recently, Id be happy to get around 100. [24-Oct-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Do you have them here on Katoa? [24-Oct-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: yes [24-Oct-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: er, no. [24-Oct-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: I could though, im on the way back [24-Oct-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Where do you have them? [24-Oct-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: BEN [24-Oct-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: On CX right now [24-Oct-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: ah ok, on CX [24-Oct-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: ok thanks [24-Oct-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: Appreciate it! 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[25-Oct-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: πŸ‘† [25-Oct-22 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boopzies** joined.* [25-Oct-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Boopzies**: can someone donate [25-Oct-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: donate?? [25-Oct-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceMonkey777** left.* [25-Oct-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa7a0451bb** left.* [25-Oct-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Emrule**: 1 week later and i finally have a full ship of goodies to sell. moneymoneymoney :D [25-Oct-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what is in that ship? 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[20-Jan-23 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: depends price [20-Jan-23 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: try listing and see! [20-Jan-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VincessAlcat** left.* [20-Jan-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***beerbarron** joined.* [20-Jan-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: does someone have 2 LDE to sell? the cx is empty :( [20-Jan-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: i can sell you 2 via cx or private contract on BEN [20-Jan-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I have 2 on katoa [20-Jan-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Send contract [20-Jan-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: oh boy that would be awesome , only problem is... for how much? [20-Jan-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: What you consider fair [20-Jan-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: mhh give me a moment and i'll tell you [20-Jan-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I changed my base plan so I have a few leftovers around [20-Jan-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: well, thank you a lot, you saved me quite a bit of headaches [20-Jan-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***amsquid** joined.* [20-Jan-23 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gmoney90** joined.* [20-Jan-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BanditOfSpaceRocks** joined.* [20-Jan-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***saraheyre99** joined.* [20-Jan-23 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NinjaOfTruth** left.* [20-Jan-23 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reubster1** joined.* [20-Jan-23 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SeaPear**: BUI ECA [20-Jan-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***awesometbn1232** joined.* [20-Jan-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** joined.* [20-Jan-23 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** left.* [20-Jan-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cilgalad** joined.* [20-Jan-23 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cilgalad** left.* [20-Jan-23 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cilgalad** joined.* [20-Jan-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reubster1** left.* [21-Jan-23 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FayeAudrey** joined.* [21-Jan-23 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kaliecoombs** left.* [21-Jan-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Crowley** joined.* [21-Jan-23 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Londoz** joined.* [21-Jan-23 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can sell 13xBSE? [21-Jan-23 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JeckA** joined.* [21-Jan-23 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: or 11? [21-Jan-23 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***red031000** joined.* [21-Jan-23 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ResidentIvo** left.* [21-Jan-23 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadoWHaWk1660** joined.* [21-Jan-23 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***anonim.pl** joined.* [21-Jan-23 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***anonim.pl** deleted this message.* [21-Jan-23 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **anonim.pl**: can buy 1 bse [21-Jan-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Without PRO - you need to visit the CX to buy [21-Jan-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hutzika** joined.* [21-Jan-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: anyone here can provide HE3? 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[21-Jan-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Umbra [21-Jan-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends what kind of chemistry you want [21-Jan-23 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: CHP and POL [21-Jan-23 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah likely Umbra... unless you want a planet with HAL [21-Jan-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Daharius**: ty [21-Jan-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: for HAL, I'd suggest JS-570a or Griffonstone [21-Jan-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***luluchap0** joined.* [21-Jan-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Londoz** left.* [21-Jan-23 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: posted a buy for MCG [21-Jan-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShinxBepis** left.* [21-Jan-23 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monkfudoo** joined.* [21-Jan-23 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** joined.* [21-Jan-23 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rik0** left.* [21-Jan-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daharius** deleted this message.* [21-Jan-23 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lil_Armalite** joined.* [22-Jan-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jbosw33** left.* [22-Jan-23 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jbosw33** joined.* [22-Jan-23 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HCQG** left.* [22-Jan-23 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Silas** joined.* [22-Jan-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WuWkie** left.* [22-Jan-23 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MutantCheese181** left.* [22-Jan-23 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoyBatty** joined.* [22-Jan-23 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kaimon** left.* [22-Jan-23 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***oea** left.* [22-Jan-23 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Clauguru** left.* [22-Jan-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SAW.inc**: hey what's the vote aspect of this game [22-Jan-23 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pavalineox**: Do you mean votes for governors? [22-Jan-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pavalineox**: Or just votes in general, including ones for the COGC programs? [22-Jan-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pavalineox**: They behave a bit differently for each one [22-Jan-23 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SAW.inc**: so the one for a community project an why is it locked for me [22-Jan-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Weekly TWITCH starting soon. Topic: Spreadsheets and other aids. Join us soon at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome. {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [22-Jan-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SAW.inc**: is difference on ur spreadsheet the spread of buy and sell [22-Jan-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SAW.inc**: I can't message in twitch [22-Jan-23 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SAW.inc**: I have no idea how to make a spreadsheet and I'm buying and selling a lot an just counting profit in my head roughly [22-Jan-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SAW.inc**: nvm ur sheet is about ur production [22-Jan-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kani** joined.* [22-Jan-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greezy** joined.* [22-Jan-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SAW.inc** left.* [22-Jan-23 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DigitalDweller** left.* [22-Jan-23 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JaDiTu** left.* [22-Jan-23 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MerkalAubauch** joined.* [22-Jan-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zedaxus** joined.* [22-Jan-23 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Diplomat** joined.* [22-Jan-23 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karrotzx** left.* [22-Jan-23 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spinach** joined.* [22-Jan-23 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spinach**: Hello folks [22-Jan-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blamenos** joined.* [22-Jan-23 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Solaris01** joined.* [23-Jan-23 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Onoben** left.* [23-Jan-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xRetri** left.* [23-Jan-23 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wabunoob** left.* [23-Jan-23 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***invincibile** left.* [23-Jan-23 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Devoid_of_Gravitas** joined.* [23-Jan-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Isotope** left.* [23-Jan-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: does anyone have some CAF or COF to sell? [23-Jan-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: I have a buy for 8.50u of SF [23-Jan-23 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: if anyone can cover that, i know its on the cheaper end, but no need to spend fuel to have it delivered [23-Jan-23 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: Also an AMM buy [23-Jan-23 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Neccarus**: I'm not sure anyone will sell SF at 8.5/u right now [23-Jan-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: same but it doens t hurt to try [23-Jan-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: doesnt* [23-Jan-23 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: Ask and you shall receive!4 [23-Jan-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***daggerclone** left.* [23-Jan-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Steffen2** joined.* [23-Jan-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***soldierguy365** joined.* [23-Jan-23 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RB190** left.* [23-Jan-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nopat** joined.* [23-Jan-23 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DieterDerBoss** left.* [23-Jan-23 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xX_GoldBars_Xx** left.* [23-Jan-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Herezaki** left.* [23-Jan-23 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MiKO237** joined.* [23-Jan-23 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayCrys** left.* [23-Jan-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonface** left.* [23-Jan-23 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KounterKurrent** joined.* [23-Jan-23 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***W6** joined.* [24-Jan-23 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PornStarsAreButter** left.* [24-Jan-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spieri** left.* [24-Jan-23 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tf2engineer** left.* [24-Jan-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bearded_Turtleman** left.* [24-Jan-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordMuck** joined.* [24-Jan-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KhandovArbalest** left.* [24-Jan-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordmuffins** joined.* [24-Jan-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trashyyy** joined.* [24-Jan-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CRAZY4pankakes** joined.* [24-Jan-23 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6914043734** left.* [24-Jan-23 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***koschinovs2** left.* [24-Jan-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aeroastro3** left.* [24-Jan-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TANKofcardboard** joined.* [24-Jan-23 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***darklight2367** joined.* [24-Jan-23 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nuubra** joined.* [25-Jan-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **vid494**: what does provisioning mean in contracts? [25-Jan-23 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **vid494**: does it mean i need this resource at this place? [25-Jan-23 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***will79041** joined.* [25-Jan-23 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Yes - You need to deliver that amount of that item. [25-Jan-23 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: If you are looking at faction contracts, be warned that they are not always lucrative - You need to check the math on your own [25-Jan-23 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: They can be rough on newcomers [25-Jan-23 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***G3sus** joined.* [25-Jan-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vid494** left.* [25-Jan-23 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: i just got a good one of those.... provision 197 MCG, Pick up 137 MCG reward [25-Jan-23 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Faction contracts can be really lucrative especially for newcomers if you pirate them. Just got 100 BBH from a contract, interesting for me because of my repairs but for newcomers it can be really interesting to sell them ;) [25-Jan-23 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***powersuite6** joined.* [25-Jan-23 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: I had no clue you could pirate the factions, lol [25-Jan-23 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: the rewards will change in the next maintenance release. the payoff will be lowered drastically [25-Jan-23 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoyBatty**: .................................................. 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[26-Jan-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: by the looks of the Exchange my Epic C supplies are needed badly, i best get the factories up and running asap [26-Jan-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***akatham** deleted this message.* [26-Jan-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TCat** joined.* [26-Jan-23 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NO-X** left.* [26-Jan-23 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: with C for 1k at benten cx you are more then needed karr :) [26-Jan-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 444 on route [26-Jan-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: 4 hours [26-Jan-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaizNike** joined.* [26-Jan-23 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome back!! [26-Jan-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***engineergaming** joined.* [26-Jan-23 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCreeper** joined.* [27-Jan-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zean** joined.* [27-Jan-23 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ghosthunter** left.* [27-Jan-23 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: any1 can produce 1xQCR? [27-Jan-23 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Need some quick space [27-Jan-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Shipping ad is up [27-Jan-23 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrossPenny** left.* [27-Jan-23 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Falcon5572** joined.* [27-Jan-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***prepper** joined.* [27-Jan-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***frosty_donuts** left.* [27-Jan-23 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ugandalf** left.* [27-Jan-23 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bamskeel** left.* [27-Jan-23 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hackerzrul** left.* [27-Jan-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DisgruntledDog** joined.* [27-Jan-23 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***E32** left.* [27-Jan-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EverettCage** left.* [27-Jan-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KX9** left.* [27-Jan-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naphy** joined.* [27-Jan-23 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naphy** left.* [27-Jan-23 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naphy** joined.* [27-Jan-23 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFireFly** joined.* [27-Jan-23 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: @TheFireFly welcome [27-Jan-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: hi [27-Jan-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: Im Cloude from Vallis btw [27-Jan-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFireFly** deleted this message.* [27-Jan-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: alrighty [27-Jan-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: hopefully that was the last time you COLIQ [27-Jan-23 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: yeah [27-Jan-23 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: soo as fuel on this planet what should i build first? [27-Jan-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: the tutorial should sya [27-Jan-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: say* [27-Jan-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: yeah i looked at the hand book [27-Jan-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: im building an extractor [27-Jan-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: prioritize your own profession first [27-Jan-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: fuel refinery creates your main material [27-Jan-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: k [27-Jan-23 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: umm how do i put pionners to work? [27-Jan-23 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: build them a habitat first [27-Jan-23 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: ah ok [27-Jan-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: pioneers automatically work once you queue up production [27-Jan-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: k [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: alright i have a refinery and im making 200 units of FF fuel [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: your current setup should be one of HB1, one COL, and one REF [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: FTL* [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: wait [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: holdon [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: extractor??? [27-Jan-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: nah i removed it i ment to put the gas one up [27-Jan-23 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: oh okay [27-Jan-23 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: ye [27-Jan-23 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: make sure to keep track of workforce upkeep costs [27-Jan-23 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: thats about it [27-Jan-23 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: k [27-Jan-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: just like stellaris fleet cost it will bite you in the butt [27-Jan-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: you can learn shipping, commodity exchange, and expanding by yourself [27-Jan-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: yeah [27-Jan-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: don't travel until theres less than 48H of your workers upkeep [27-Jan-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: ok [27-Jan-23 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Naphy**: maximize income every time you have ships inbound to the exchange [27-Jan-23 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: alright [27-Jan-23 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: alright i've started a small trip [27-Jan-23 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheFireFly**: good night [27-Jan-23 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: is anyone interested in scientists on Katoa? I can donate some of the library materials, but could use some help with it [28-Jan-23 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rtyphantom** joined.* [28-Jan-23 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **rtyphantom**: i did not expect something more complex than eve online to be in a web browser [28-Jan-23 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechTheAwesome** joined.* [28-Jan-23 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: hey everyone [28-Jan-23 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: if you have some spare DW, can you make a LM order? i just need 10-20 ish, and thanks a lot! [28-Jan-23 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure [28-Jan-23 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: thanks alot! :D [28-Jan-23 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: np [28-Jan-23 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YellowTheManager** joined.* [28-Jan-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Katar_Sewert** joined.* [28-Jan-23 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ultrabeat** joined.* [28-Jan-23 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murtaugh** joined.* [28-Jan-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just queued up 144 BHP in response to CX shortage. They’ll be ready in 3 days but the LM ads are posted now in batches of 12 (2,500/u). [28-Jan-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Please take only what you need :) [28-Jan-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeDeYkA** joined.* [28-Jan-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***beerbarron** left.* [28-Jan-23 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: bugger me this is a bit complex in\ [28-Jan-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Some math involved [28-Jan-23 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Fret not, enjoy yourself, ask anything in the global chat [28-Jan-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: im trying to do the contract and it says i need to provision 28 triglyceride fruits and i havnt figured out how yet [28-Jan-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: but im hoping as i go through the videos it will explain [28-Jan-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: I honestly can not recall if they detail contracts in the tutorial, the contracts were added just before I started playing in September and faction contracts are very recent, added right before new year [28-Jan-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: But to provision an item for a contract as a free account player, you need to travel to a CX (Exchange) which is Benten Station around these parts [28-Jan-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: ok cool beans ill give that a go [28-Jan-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: And in there you need to purchase these 28 fruits - But you might not want to do this right off the bat [28-Jan-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: The faction contracts are new and not guaranteed to benefit you [28-Jan-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: im wanting to get into this game and try to get my friends into it as well [28-Jan-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: There is a fair chance the products cost more than you gain [28-Jan-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: i see [28-Jan-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: A Castillo-Ito Mercantile transporter delivering food supplies to colonies in need is passing by your Benten - Katoa base soon. Make sure to provision the shipment in time so it can be picked up on the way. [28-Jan-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: this is what is says does that mean i am waiting for someone to come or i need to go get it? [28-Jan-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Let's see. The fruit has the ticker VEG under Agricultural products and costs 140 / u at "ask" price which is what you'd have to pay to get them right away. [28-Jan-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: So 28 would cost you 3920 CIS to buy, and a trip to BEN CX will cost you say 2000 in fuel costs back and forth, if you move slowly [28-Jan-23 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: that loses money cause i only get 6.8k [28-Jan-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It would be a very small gain, at least if you only do that - If you have built a base, you might want to look at what you can produce and supplies you need for that [28-Jan-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: but if i carried pe one way and the food the way back its a win [28-Jan-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: i will wait for production to be finished :D [28-Jan-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: thanks [28-Jan-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Ye. But to answer your question - You need to pick up with a ship at the CX , fly it back here, then open the contract when you have the stuff at Katoa (in this case, location will be named in contract) and then click "Fullfill" button which will become green [28-Jan-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: I need to be off, so use the global chat if you need any more help, not super many look into local :) [28-Jan-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: awesome sauce :) [28-Jan-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: okay :D [28-Jan-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***smallbot3000** joined.* [28-Jan-23 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gmoney90** left.* [28-Jan-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***saraheyre99** left.* [28-Jan-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***awesometbn1232** left.* [28-Jan-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Pilgrim** left.* [28-Jan-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hieremiamapex** joined.* [29-Jan-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MartinMarko** joined.* [29-Jan-23 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb21a9ebd07** left.* [29-Jan-23 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mansq** joined.* [29-Jan-23 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vacrotos** joined.* [29-Jan-23 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vacrotos** left.* [29-Jan-23 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vacrotos** joined.* [29-Jan-23 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bullman** left.* [29-Jan-23 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JeckA** left.* [29-Jan-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Famoz** left.* [29-Jan-23 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whitenote** joined.* [29-Jan-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***batgame** joined.* [29-Jan-23 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **batgame**: this was a very overwelming game [29-Jan-23 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VRBSN** left.* [29-Jan-23 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***batgame** left.* [29-Jan-23 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: It grows on you. its complicated, but facinating [29-Jan-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AmateurGamer** left.* [29-Jan-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: before i fly to cxl to get, dsoes anyone have any COF and KOM on Kat that ican buy? [29-Jan-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: like 150 COF and 15 KOM ish [29-Jan-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Weekly TWITCH STREAM is starting. Come join us at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome. {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [29-Jan-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hector.whiff** joined.* [29-Jan-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***luluchap0** left.* [29-Jan-23 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Stream over. If you wanna see the video look for it here: https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck/videos See you all next week. {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck/videos GrandpaCanuck Videos - Twitch Watch all of GrandpaCanuck's best archives, VODs, and highlights on Twitch. Find their latest Prosperous Universe streams and much more right here. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [29-Jan-23 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashtral** left.* [29-Jan-23 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How are our fuel refiners going with GAL supplies? 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Right now situation with GAL is back to normal with prices at 60-80 [30-Jan-23 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0c7eaaa060** left.* [30-Jan-23 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UNCLEMUSCLEZttv** joined.* [30-Jan-23 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa71272094** left.* [30-Jan-23 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoggyDog** left.* [30-Jan-23 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfcb0cf5a70** left.* [30-Jan-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoggyDog** joined.* [30-Jan-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wolfeye38** joined.* [30-Jan-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I got a surplus GAL production, so i'm good ^^ [30-Jan-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trikiz** joined.* [30-Jan-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SomeGuy3906** joined.* [30-Jan-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadoWHaWk1660** left.* [30-Jan-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc490c9add9** left.* [30-Jan-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lil_Armalite** left.* [30-Jan-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I produce FF mainly [30-Jan-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: Does anyone have some oxygen? Added contract on LM for 90/u. I ran out :) [30-Jan-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: Thanks Zen [30-Jan-23 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aeroastro3** joined.* [30-Jan-23 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zedaxus** left.* [30-Jan-23 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spinach** left.* [30-Jan-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blamenos** left.* [30-Jan-23 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PTMN** joined.* [30-Jan-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tonk555** left.* [30-Jan-23 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf686126abe** left.* [31-Jan-23 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garnin** left.* [31-Jan-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***clemj380** joined.* [31-Jan-23 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: could someone sell me 1 BSE , i've done the math wrong. if someone can pick it i've put the ad in the LM [31-Jan-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: sure. put ad [31-Jan-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I already sold him BSE :) [31-Jan-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: but still thank you for the offer :D [31-Jan-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: oh ok [31-Jan-23 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eliiia** joined.* [31-Jan-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eliiia**: hey [31-Jan-23 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eliiia**: anyone here? [31-Jan-23 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eliiia**: hi [31-Jan-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Local chat is rarely viewed, the global is a lot more active [31-Jan-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eliiia**: oh! how do i access global chat? [31-Jan-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: You can either click the "COM" button and you should have APEX GLOBAL CHAT listed [31-Jan-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Or open a new buffer and use command COMP global [31-Jan-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eliiia**: oh, thank you! [31-Jan-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Pleasure to help [31-Jan-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tyuuyyjiuioiutte34564y** joined.* [31-Jan-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PTMN** left.* [31-Jan-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***badraptor** joined.* [31-Jan-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PTMN** joined.* [31-Jan-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Steffen2** left.* [31-Jan-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***soldierguy365** left.* [31-Jan-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zean**: Hello! dont worry ill only ask once would anyone be willing to loan me 100k for the payback amount of 125k? im still a newer player but am pro lic for the next 3 months most likely longer :) thanks if not thats ok too! [31-Jan-23 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShinHeshesh** left.* [31-Jan-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: You'll want to join the UFO discord and have such discussions there instead [31-Jan-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: What you need to buy with that cash? Maybe one of us can supply it for a long term backback [31-Jan-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: payback [31-Jan-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nutleyevan** joined.* [31-Jan-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beastboy2712** joined.* [31-Jan-23 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @Zean i will take a chance on you :) if you need prefabs PM me i will give you a better price than CX [31-Jan-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zean**: some one already got me :) ty though friend [31-Jan-23 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome :) [31-Jan-23 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BarmyJarmy** joined.* [31-Jan-23 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fryguy5134** joined.* [31-Jan-23 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CatgirlExplise** joined.* [31-Jan-23 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CloverrFoxx** joined.* [31-Jan-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9675b1b47f** left.* [01-Feb-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blitzo** joined.* [01-Feb-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LilySan** joined.* [01-Feb-23 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: hi..i need some 180xMCG? any1 can sell so much or more? 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I forgot I needed them for a quest [06-Feb-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SKce** joined.* [06-Feb-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi. SKce. Welcome on Katoa. ;-) [06-Feb-23 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IamCEOBitch** joined.* [06-Feb-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anyone like to negotiate a bid for 800 LST delivered here on Katoa. I have it in stock, ready. [06-Feb-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's on the LM for 60/u :) [06-Feb-23 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Santiagowned** joined.* [06-Feb-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FRENCHIE11** joined.* [07-Feb-23 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Well neke that was too convenient to not take. :) [07-Feb-23 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whitenote** left.* [07-Feb-23 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cynicality** joined.* [07-Feb-23 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CesiumHorizon** joined.* [07-Feb-23 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Perfect [07-Feb-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Manjiru** joined.* [07-Feb-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDictatorialState** joined.* [07-Feb-23 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDictatorialState** left.* [07-Feb-23 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDictatorialState** joined.* [07-Feb-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crankey** joined.* [07-Feb-23 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Neccarus**: anyone here supply hydrogen or ammonia through contracts locally? Or would be willing to? 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You should post buy ads here and on the LM on CB-282d and they will possibly get filled - especially if you’re buying it off the tap and solving the shipping problem for them. [07-Feb-23 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalkyRaptor** left.* [07-Feb-23 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalkyRaptor** joined.* [07-Feb-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***clashofclansalt7566** joined.* [08-Feb-23 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CptVodka** joined.* [08-Feb-23 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeansBush** joined.* [08-Feb-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: true, i have 6k H on CB-282d currently. not all for the market but i am laging a bit in shipping because of vacation. so if someone needs some H, post ads there. at least 3k available. [08-Feb-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @Nicster you could post some shipping ads i have more H shipping capacity than H production :) [08-Feb-23 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: whats your ship size :-) [08-Feb-23 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: and price? [08-Feb-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have a 3k mΒ³ ship going between and if i fly non stop i will have about 1k mΒ³ free each run [08-Feb-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i can drop of on Umbra, Katoa or BEN [08-Feb-23 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: So i can make 1k shipping ads for katoa? whats your price? [08-Feb-23 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: lets say 10k for 1k mΒ³ every 2 days but you can also make one 3k mΒ³ ad every 6 days [08-Feb-23 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i wont need it permanently, it's just to catch up a bit. but yeah that works for me :-) [08-Feb-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: posted three 1k ads with long fullfilment periods [08-Feb-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: my ship is about to arrive on Umbra if you want i can make a run for you with 3k mΒ³ next :) [08-Feb-23 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: whatever suits you. no need to hurry [08-Feb-23 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Thanks! [08-Feb-23 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome :) [08-Feb-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDictatorialState** left.* [08-Feb-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiscountToys** joined.* [08-Feb-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HyperionIX** joined.* [08-Feb-23 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***badraptor** left.* [08-Feb-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***leollo98** joined.* [08-Feb-23 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***starforce** left.* [08-Feb-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.Magoo** joined.* [08-Feb-23 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dylanov1c4** joined.* [08-Feb-23 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***t00p1c** joined.* [08-Feb-23 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tyuuyyjiuioiutte34564y** left.* [08-Feb-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zviracek** left.* [08-Feb-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nutleyevan** left.* [08-Feb-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beastboy2712** left.* [08-Feb-23 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***L1XL0X** left.* [08-Feb-23 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CatgirlExplise** left.* [08-Feb-23 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CloverrFoxx** left.* [08-Feb-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PTMN** left.* [09-Feb-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hewhomucs** joined.* [09-Feb-23 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ByIvaan** joined.* [09-Feb-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bobkieller878** joined.* [09-Feb-23 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mariusaquinas** joined.* [09-Feb-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mariusaquinas**: how do i add the materials to my base or whatever? [09-Feb-23 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: mobile phone or pc? [09-Feb-23 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mariusaquinas**: pc and i found out how lols [09-Feb-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mariusaquinas**: but on my rig it says production is halted, how do i make complete production??? [09-Feb-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You need workers or raw materieals or you workers are needing consumables. [09-Feb-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mariusaquinas**: thanks [09-Feb-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***flourishingneo** joined.* [09-Feb-23 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ONSomega2004** left.* [09-Feb-23 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BarmyJarmy** left.* [09-Feb-23 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UrgentNine722** left.* [09-Feb-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **msuda02**: If anyone has some LST for sale I've just posted an add to buy 100 [09-Feb-23 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkspore51** joined.* [09-Feb-23 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeaPear** deleted this message.* [09-Feb-23 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cjbuddy195** left.* [09-Feb-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkspore51** left.* [09-Feb-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user28730294c7** left.* [09-Feb-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6754160ec2** left.* [09-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InvokeSmoke** left.* [09-Feb-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BanFSOG** left.* [09-Feb-23 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PatMetals** left.* [10-Feb-23 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoidHawk** joined.* [10-Feb-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xinon** left.* [10-Feb-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***clemj380** left.* [10-Feb-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KassidePidu** left.* [10-Feb-23 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crankey** left.* [10-Feb-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BuruZoroa** joined.* [10-Feb-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crankey** joined.* [10-Feb-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrRaka** joined.* [10-Feb-23 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArchersParadox** joined.* [10-Feb-23 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***beefcarhack3** joined.* [11-Feb-23 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: anyone have PE for sale on katoa? 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Join us at www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome Topic: An Introduction to Contract Valuation [12-Feb-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sAVAGE_mONKEY** joined.* [12-Feb-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UltraLuigi** joined.* [12-Feb-23 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BowlofRice** joined.* [12-Feb-23 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SamTheOtherOne** left.* [12-Feb-23 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap fuel for sale on the Local Market [12-Feb-23 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drusla** joined.* [12-Feb-23 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Errant_Venture** left.* [12-Feb-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mx744** joined.* [12-Feb-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0v8** joined.* [13-Feb-23 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vicblivion** left.* [13-Feb-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mordemot** left.* [13-Feb-23 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I also have PE most of the time. just crate LM ads and i will fillt hem [13-Feb-23 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: good to know :) [13-Feb-23 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mato1490** left.* [13-Feb-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DDave_42024** joined.* [13-Feb-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyaerna** joined.* [13-Feb-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jacklin** left.* [13-Feb-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thenuker1234** joined.* [13-Feb-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aesom_e** left.* [13-Feb-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrakFel** joined.* [13-Feb-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yoimsecond** joined.* [13-Feb-23 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malkor** left.* [13-Feb-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrakFel** left.* [13-Feb-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrakFel** joined.* [13-Feb-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sully2306** joined.* [13-Feb-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***plague180** left.* [13-Feb-23 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ooogus22** joined.* [13-Feb-23 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cavren** left.* [14-Feb-23 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***A-Droid** left.* [14-Feb-23 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***A-Droid** joined.* [14-Feb-23 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Majoron** joined.* [14-Feb-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bawbandit** left.* [14-Feb-23 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aurelion** left.* [14-Feb-23 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***huusk** left.* [14-Feb-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DankEngineDave** joined.* [14-Feb-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heronn** left.* [14-Feb-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lex.ross96** joined.* [14-Feb-23 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingTernel** left.* [14-Feb-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deucalion** left.* [14-Feb-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swed0** left.* [14-Feb-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swed0** joined.* [14-Feb-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bkirby353** left.* [14-Feb-23 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swed0** left.* [14-Feb-23 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilovethemoneyandthemoneylovesme** joined.* [14-Feb-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maximdolgikh10** joined.* [14-Feb-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kelectrast** joined.* [14-Feb-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Clocked** joined.* [14-Feb-23 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FRENCHIE11** left.* [15-Feb-23 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DankEngineDave** left.* [15-Feb-23 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDarkKiller98** joined.* [15-Feb-23 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gurking** joined.* [15-Feb-23 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***teomdd** joined.* [15-Feb-23 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DAVIDJ** left.* [15-Feb-23 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ataylor** joined.* [15-Feb-23 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoMM3L** joined.* [15-Feb-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KanashiiSuisei** joined.* [15-Feb-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karl0s** joined.* [15-Feb-23 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KMAKA** left.* [15-Feb-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zKuma** left.* [15-Feb-23 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spooksy** joined.* [15-Feb-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jalapainio** joined.* [15-Feb-23 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tomigutt** left.* [15-Feb-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moonsnacks** joined.* [15-Feb-23 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyanGhoul** joined.* [15-Feb-23 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cookieclicker42** joined.* [15-Feb-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cynicality** left.* [15-Feb-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***clashofclansalt7566** left.* [16-Feb-23 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PremiumXro** joined.* [16-Feb-23 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeansBush** left.* [16-Feb-23 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***victory787** joined.* [16-Feb-23 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***orbylp** joined.* [16-Feb-23 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MJC10101** left.* [16-Feb-23 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IamCEOBitch** left.* [16-Feb-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cablaze88** joined.* [16-Feb-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CptVodka** left.* [16-Feb-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Superneth**: COLIQ [16-Feb-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: Buying O for 70/u [16-Feb-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: how many do you need? [16-Feb-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: 100 [16-Feb-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: ad is already up [16-Feb-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: I would take less if u have [16-Feb-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: I have 80 ready [16-Feb-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: ok wait I change the ad [16-Feb-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: or like that [16-Feb-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tets86**: thanks a lot [16-Feb-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: I was just about to ship it to CX :) [16-Feb-23 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***player111** joined.* [16-Feb-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA** joined.* [16-Feb-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDarkKiller98** left.* [16-Feb-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDarkKiller98** joined.* [16-Feb-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melosh** joined.* [16-Feb-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr.Tiger4656** joined.* [16-Feb-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LikeAFaucet** joined.* [16-Feb-23 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [16-Feb-23 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have withdrawn from election. I am mothballing my bases and withdrawing from active gaming for the foreseeable future. [17-Feb-23 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Hope you're alright and thanks for all the great times so far Neke [17-Feb-23 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Thank you neke for all your hard work here :) [17-Feb-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FInglan**: That's a pity. Hope to see aou again. [17-Feb-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: that will be a catastrophe, no neke :-( [17-Feb-23 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hewhomucs** left.* [17-Feb-23 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thank you neke. You did a grat job [17-Feb-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kindling**: (pointing up) What they said [17-Feb-23 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Please don't elect that one 20 days old guy [17-Feb-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: that sounds like fun... dwarf fortress type of 'fun' :D [17-Feb-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***01010100** joined.* [17-Feb-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: neke gratulation you are the only Gov who didn't get poisoned or air locked *thumbs up* [17-Feb-23 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: oh jesus dont elect me [17-Feb-23 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: i just clicked the button cause i could :0 [17-Feb-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: That sounds like a governor in making if I ever heard of one - Lasso him and drag him in there [17-Feb-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bobkieller878** left.* [17-Feb-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Yellow that's your chance. According my first calculations, this planet might cost you only 150,000 cis per week. It's a true bargain buy! 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[17-Feb-23 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Radiotype** left.* [18-Feb-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Attn: KAT approach control: please forgive ZIPP003 Mebsuta that will be blithely ignoring incoming and outgoing landing patterns in 100 minutes or so while it makes a rare sub-2h flight from Umbra. This obviously has nothing to do with the hundred-plus Polymer Plant workers currently on extended break at my base in Umbra or with the only UMB LM buy order for H @ 300/ea that is inexplicably not yet filled. Nope, not at all. [18-Feb-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM filled in Umb. Flight back will be more fuel efficient. [18-Feb-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: 150k cis per week ;-; bankrupt in a day [18-Feb-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: but for the 3 hours i can maintain it i promis to be the best damb governer this planet has seen since neke86 the great [18-Feb-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: mostly because ill be the only [18-Feb-23 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bury_05** joined.* [18-Feb-23 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: thank you for your service @neke86 sad to see you go i would take cre of Katoa but my hands are full with Milliways and Umbra [18-Feb-23 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: looking for a regular RAT supplier 2000 a week via CONTDs, if interested please message me to discuss [18-Feb-23 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadiestQuill** joined.* [18-Feb-23 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***01010100** left.* [18-Feb-23 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonasXD** joined.* [18-Feb-23 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FriendlyWalrus** left.* [18-Feb-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FriendlyWalrus** joined.* [18-Feb-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hafhussain13** left.* [18-Feb-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***flourishingneo** joined.* [18-Feb-23 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***simlu** left.* [18-Feb-23 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swed0** joined.* [18-Feb-23 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OzoneInc.** left.* [18-Feb-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11166ce529** left.* [18-Feb-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MMaazzzzaa** joined.* [18-Feb-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrRaka** left.* [18-Feb-23 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Estbrooke** joined.* [18-Feb-23 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArchersParadox** left.* [18-Feb-23 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WilliamTheIII** joined.* [18-Feb-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***beefcarhack3** left.* [19-Feb-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frosthammers** joined.* [19-Feb-23 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It’s been a blast Knarf! 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[19-Feb-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Might be as low as 45 days since player count has increased, but you do get warnings per e-mail about the date [19-Feb-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: I hadn't been a governer, but it do looks like infrastructure upkeep is a pain xD [19-Feb-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Hard to find sufficient supply, a lot of money for no personal profit - but it's necessary for the planet to function so it's in everyones interest that it is done :) [19-Feb-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: well, the taxes you raise are meant to compensate that [19-Feb-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: I havent figured out where they are displayed properly tho on my planet [19-Feb-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: sadly you dont get proper statisics about the taxes you raise best thing we have are CORPFIN but that only shows us the total for the last few weeks [19-Feb-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UltimateKing** joined.* [19-Feb-23 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ByIvaan** left.* [19-Feb-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JeremiasWilson** left.* [19-Feb-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BumBumBaum** left.* [19-Feb-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cardfelix** joined.* [19-Feb-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***andresandilands** joined.* [19-Feb-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Yeah, the thing is, that I have no data how many workers of each tier are working in which sector of industry. So adjusting the tax is always difficult. and making the tax too high might have bigger impact and sideeffects on the planets economy [19-Feb-23 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will try to leave the taxes as they are for now. Little imbalance can be compensated by me, my corp and maybe friendly donators. In case I get elected, I will try to make a regularly financial report on UFO discord [19-Feb-23 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Weekly TWITCH STREAM starting soon. Topic: End Game, what would make you quit? Join us at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome. {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck GrandpaCanuck - Twitch I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games. I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/U_Pksj9DYdATuCSOXkHMzzq1ZJMdyVLnc1lQPvAKu5Y/https/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/ea6add62-69cc-42cd-bf2d-be72d4083bd3-profile_image-300x300.png [19-Feb-23 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Debildedektyv** joined.* [19-Feb-23 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***waycrush** joined.* [19-Feb-23 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GaryCatcher** joined.* [19-Feb-23 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tetran** joined.* [19-Feb-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **waycrush**: Just found this game, Looks cool af [19-Feb-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It's for spreadsheet lovers, but it's hella nice if you enjoy that :) [19-Feb-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Check the COM and use Global Chat though, local chats are mostly for emergency trade and there's TONS of people eager to chat and help you out with any questions in the global one [19-Feb-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: It's a very fun game. A little slow at the start. but once you have overcome this, it's kinda addictive [19-Feb-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Welcome and GL HF :) [19-Feb-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raffik** joined.* [19-Feb-23 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cjbuteau** joined.* [19-Feb-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tark** left.* [20-Feb-23 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VcTr** joined.* [20-Feb-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nephos** joined.* [20-Feb-23 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***djb** left.* [20-Feb-23 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninsean** joined.* [20-Feb-23 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hao.na** left.* [20-Feb-23 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Newoug** joined.* [20-Feb-23 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PaidLeber**: uh Oh [20-Feb-23 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Hey would anyone mind giving me a small loan like 500 CIS I just need it for production fees [20-Feb-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: You have a Pro Account? [20-Feb-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Yeah [20-Feb-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: I do [20-Feb-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Sell ad at LM for 1 Item of Your choice for 500 CIS [20-Feb-23 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: I think i missed it :P [20-Feb-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: No, you have tio place an ad... [20-Feb-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: now what if I said I couldn't afford that [20-Feb-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: lol [20-Feb-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: It's good I got someone in the help channel to help me thanks tho [20-Feb-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: OK, what Item you can sell, so I can place a buy order [20-Feb-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: That's an interest soft lock [20-Feb-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: *interesting even [20-Feb-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Don't sweat it I got someone else to help me out Thanks again tho I really appreciate it [20-Feb-23 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PanzerPow** joined.* [20-Feb-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ARCHIVE33** joined.* [20-Feb-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BowlofRice** left.* [20-Feb-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoidHawk** left.* [20-Feb-23 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drusla** left.* [20-Feb-23 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mx744** left.* [21-Feb-23 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0v8** left.* [21-Feb-23 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver778** joined.* [21-Feb-23 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silver778** left.* [21-Feb-23 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DDave_42024** left.* [21-Feb-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZzaK** joined.* [21-Feb-23 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyaerna** left.* [21-Feb-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thenuker1234** left.* [21-Feb-23 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just so you all know, with me packing up most of my bases I’ve lost my supply of FE and AL. This supply was crucial to the supply of Light and Basic Hull Plates, for which I was really the only person in Benten space providing stock and trying to keep prices reasonable. I will continue running the HWPs but they won’t be making anything unless stock is supplied or prices drop so if you want plates, bring me AL/STL and I will build them for you at cost :) [21-Feb-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In fact, up for rent now are [21-Feb-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20 BMP, 4 CLR, 3 FS, 4 HWP [21-Feb-23 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Alternatively if you don’t really want an output but want to lock in buyer for certain things, I’ll buy most inputs for those buildings at a fair or even premium price :) [21-Feb-23 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dankolu** joined.* [21-Feb-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tralala** joined.* [21-Feb-23 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: i could supply some AL if needed Neke [21-Feb-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb83b220ca9** left.* [21-Feb-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure, I'll take some! [21-Feb-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can you send me a contract at your price and supply [21-Feb-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I trust you :D [21-Feb-23 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Hey is there anyone offering AMM on Katoa? 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[23-Feb-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: TRN 400/u [23-Feb-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SFK 80/u [23-Feb-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (CX is cheaper sorry) [23-Feb-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: do you have 200 SFK? [23-Feb-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap [23-Feb-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: or maybe trn, 100 available? [23-Feb-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: contract sent [23-Feb-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: filled [23-Feb-23 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: wtb 18 BSE [23-Feb-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***volvo240enjoyer** left.* [23-Feb-23 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilovethemoneyandthemoneylovesme** left.* [23-Feb-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Is anyone selling Hydrogen on Katoa? [23-Feb-23 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i have a few thousand on site and there should be some ppl on Katoa produceing PE so i guess they also have H on site id say you put a reasonabe offer on the LM and someone will fill ;)it [23-Feb-23 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: That's prob true though I figured most people would just use it themselves? [23-Feb-23 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Contract is up I messed up the first one tho lol [23-Feb-23 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: possible but there are also people who like to trade or help new players or both :) [23-Feb-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Nah nah [23-Feb-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: I was trying to figure out how to cancel that one [23-Feb-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: I put it in wrong [23-Feb-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Hol up [23-Feb-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: nvm [23-Feb-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: That was the right one thx [23-Feb-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: How do I cancel the other one? [23-Feb-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: LMOS [23-Feb-23 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Thanks so much [23-Feb-23 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome [23-Feb-23 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: I appreciate it, its something being a new fuel refiner [23-Feb-23 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got ships can move that for you Knarf [23-Feb-23 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not sure where they are at the moment [23-Feb-23 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but they'll come back when I call them I think [23-Feb-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: nah im fine on ships i have 2 VCB, 7 LCB and another LCB close to finish i have almost more ships than bases XD [23-Feb-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha nice [23-Feb-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2x WCB, 2x LCB, 4x MCB + 3x local STLs [23-Feb-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Opted for a faster general purpose fleet [23-Feb-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For moving lots of overalls around hahahaha [23-Feb-23 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: dont forget the LST [23-Feb-23 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I wonder how much LST I moved overall [23-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: was 700-1000 units per day [23-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for months [23-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: or you quit that aswell? [23-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is gone :( [23-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Only have Etherwind and Gibson to pack up now [23-Feb-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you managed to beat KAWA price with your operation at some point [23-Feb-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh nice [23-Feb-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: that was realy impressive [23-Feb-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: When I sneak back one day, it'll be to do that again I think [23-Feb-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST/CLI [23-Feb-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wholesale operations [23-Feb-23 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you know where to buy the HSE :) [23-Feb-23 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yessuh :D [23-Feb-23 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pxva** joined.* [23-Feb-23 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: would be nice to have a total production statistik [23-Feb-23 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: id like to know how much PG i produced so far [23-Feb-23 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: 40 POLS at about 150% for over a year at that point XD [23-Feb-23 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: o_O [23-Feb-23 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: = insert big number [23-Feb-23 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: about 3 m maybe more XD [23-Feb-23 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nice [23-Feb-23 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ximumn** left.* [23-Feb-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: DW.CI1 [23-Feb-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dumped my surplus DW from various bases on the CX at 60 [23-Feb-23 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mego** joined.* [23-Feb-23 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jalapainio** left.* [23-Feb-23 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moonsnacks** left.* [23-Feb-23 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyanGhoul** left.* [24-Feb-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lucain** left.* [24-Feb-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Umbreon423** joined.* [24-Feb-23 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7b251a8457** left.* [24-Feb-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zby** joined.* [24-Feb-23 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***teomdd** left.* [24-Feb-23 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KanashiiSuisei** left.* [24-Feb-23 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orin_Fortissimo** left.* [24-Feb-23 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Big.Bang** joined.* [24-Feb-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Subzer0** joined.* [24-Feb-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BilboBaeggins** joined.* [24-Feb-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rajus** joined.* [24-Feb-23 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rajus**: Hello [24-Feb-23 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Welcome! [24-Feb-23 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome DasRallum as the new Governor! I’ve handed over POPI at 24-30 days supply and will pay forward some tax revenue to keep things smooth. [24-Feb-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: @DasRallum Let me know when you wanna talk about the TUBs needed for maintinance. [24-Feb-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mego** left.* [24-Feb-23 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mego** joined.* [24-Feb-23 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***player111** left.* [24-Feb-23 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darksouls** joined.* [24-Feb-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdd6268ec93** left.* [24-Feb-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darksouls** left.* [24-Feb-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @DasRallum Congratulation. Long live the new Governor! May your reign be prosperous (and tax free for my textile industries...) [24-Feb-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***orbylp** left.* [24-Feb-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: congratulations @DasRallum! now, get to work ;P [24-Feb-23 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thanks... And now my dark reign as evil Imperator may start. Harharharrrr! [24-Feb-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CypherDX** joined.* [24-Feb-23 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BluePsion** joined.* [24-Feb-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BluePsion**: Need advice. I started this game a few minutes ago. I was following a tutorial from the help menu. [24-Feb-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BluePsion**: It said to make an extractor and work on getting Galerite to produce STL Fuel.. but it looks from the recipe it doesn't use Galerite? [24-Feb-23 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BluePsion**: Nevermind I found it :) [24-Feb-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leigharch** joined.* [24-Feb-23 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user54ecab8acd** left.* [24-Feb-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: congrats and good race :D [24-Feb-23 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Good luck indeed [24-Feb-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Yellow how do you feel about losing the Gov race? [24-Feb-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Just know I was rootin for ya [25-Feb-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kignfisher1123** joined.* [25-Feb-23 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: I'll be honest I'm a little sad that I can't finally be the dictator I've always dreamed of being but also glad because I don't want an entire planet hating me for fucking it up 🀣 [25-Feb-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I see good material for our Ev1l Corp here :D [25-Feb-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Yes. Come to the dark side! We have cookies. [25-Feb-23 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: I miss the cookies [25-Feb-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: They always get lost in transit to Libertas [25-Feb-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Damn Space Dash drivers [25-Feb-23 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melosh** left.* [25-Feb-23 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: A shame indeed Yellow [25-Feb-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Maybe in future you will take it over from me. ... but on the other hand... now that I have the power, I am not sure that I want to let it go. [25-Feb-23 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: just reduce taxes for engineers for a start ..its way too high [25-Feb-23 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: or we should look for better place for high tech stuff [25-Feb-23 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: lol start looking XD [25-Feb-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: the highest cost are inflicted by TEC and higher. Normally they should pay the bill :D [25-Feb-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Umbreon423** left.* [25-Feb-23 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***royoalberto7** joined.* [25-Feb-23 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WeMine**: got wrekt by my cat. Tried to buy 150 DW.. Cat laid down half on the keyboard.. Bought 5 batches. [25-Feb-23 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WeMine**: won't need DW for a minute. [25-Feb-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FugaziOsborne** joined.* [25-Feb-23 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf59317a036** left.* [25-Feb-23 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: it's moments like those that, that make me realise why some people don't like cats *stares intensly at fur coating my pc after just one night* [25-Feb-23 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have BHP coming available tomorrow, 2,600 per unit for personal use (up to 20 per player). Will accept any contacts matching that price and limit within the next ~20hrs then they head off to CX. [25-Feb-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And I just put 15,000 DW on the LM @ 40/u (vs DW.CI1) [25-Feb-23 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malign-Data** joined.* [25-Feb-23 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Holios** joined.* [25-Feb-23 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WeMine**: @yellowthemanger lmao i feel that. [25-Feb-23 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DammitRay** joined.* [25-Feb-23 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BluePsion**: Hello Holios! [25-Feb-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BluePsion**: Not calling you out since I Have no idea who you are [25-Feb-23 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CypherDX** left.* [25-Feb-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CypherDX** joined.* [25-Feb-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Halsey** joined.* [25-Feb-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meowtastic** joined.* [26-Feb-23 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: they say you're not supposed to vacuum your computer bits because of static but at the same time I can't figure out any other way that works [26-Feb-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***germanwombat** joined.* [26-Feb-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I will not touch the tax very soon. I need to see how the finances are. And to ne honest... people who have engineers usually have a good income and can pay the tax more easily, than new players with pioneers and settlers. 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[27-Feb-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: I thought I was offering cargo space for rent not requesting a delivery πŸ˜… [27-Feb-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: thankfully the contract accepter showed me grace and terminated [27-Feb-23 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3a78675e6b** left.* [27-Feb-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: lol, well at least you got it figured out. How long you been playing Yellow? [27-Feb-23 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: I think like a month now [28-Feb-23 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bury_05** left.* [28-Feb-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Ah, what are you centered around? like fuel, metals etc? [28-Feb-23 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninsean** left.* [28-Feb-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: overalls [28-Feb-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: now im doing padded overalls [28-Feb-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: ive done some PE and MCG as well [28-Feb-23 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: and a bit of traveling for contracts [28-Feb-23 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: just kinda trying everything out to see what i like [28-Feb-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: not sure what the periods are but im averaging about 9k profit after each one atm but ive had some severe ineffeciencies of like a whole day going by with no production due to poor scheduling but ive sorted that out now [28-Feb-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrQrul** joined.* [28-Feb-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: the period in FIN and FINS goes one week from monday till friday [28-Feb-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toomuchbrew** joined.* [28-Feb-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toomuchbrew** left.* [28-Feb-23 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jinto** joined.* [28-Feb-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Aren't there like huge in accuracies in the Financial statements or something like that? I don't know the specifics. [28-Feb-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Nice Yellow, what got you to decide on Padded overalls? [28-Feb-23 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: they are not perfect but its usefull for tracking the amount of sales for a week or stuff like fuel consumption and production fees but if you want a accurat net worth of your company you have to do it manualy [28-Feb-23 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chapais** joined.* [28-Feb-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nesaraca** joined.* [28-Feb-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banacor** joined.* [28-Feb-23 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heckerman** joined.* [28-Feb-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoubleDeathclaw** joined.* [28-Feb-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banacor** left.* [28-Feb-23 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoubleDeathclaw** left.* [28-Feb-23 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoubleDeathclaw** joined.* [28-Feb-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ARCHIVE33** left.* [28-Feb-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PanzerPow** left.* [28-Feb-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KitRedgrave** left.* [28-Feb-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FAoSiomaster** left.* [28-Feb-23 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***legosteve** joined.* [28-Feb-23 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: I saw there was a supply side issue with them at Benton station and there's profit to be made especially if I can get the cotton cheap enough 2k is a little steep for me but 1.7 or lower is ideal [28-Feb-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: Ahh sounds nice tbh, it seems like it's going well [01-Mar-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: anyone have spare DW i can have? Need like 50 ish x3 [01-Mar-23 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: sure. put ad [01-Mar-23 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: i cant [01-Mar-23 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: i can only accept ;-; [01-Mar-23 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: ad on local market. not contr [01-Mar-23 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: u cant? [01-Mar-23 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: im not pro license [01-Mar-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: only basic so can only accept not post an ad [01-Mar-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: xD [01-Mar-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: you can offer me a private contract tho [01-Mar-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: and ill be able to accept it [01-Mar-23 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: ok ad up [01-Mar-23 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackbiter** joined.* [01-Mar-23 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StellaryWisdom** joined.* [01-Mar-23 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aesou** joined.* [01-Mar-23 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***diamantoso** joined.* [01-Mar-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZzaK** left.* [01-Mar-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: 80 padded work overalls may be available in approx 1 [01-Mar-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: 1.5 days will sell some local for discount but pm me if you have COT or PG you're willing to trade so I can make more ^-^ [01-Mar-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moopi** joined.* [01-Mar-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smiler** joined.* [01-Mar-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Moopi**: I have the basic needs in my base inventory, but in the workforce overview, it doesn't show up [01-Mar-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Moopi**: Do I have to do something else? [01-Mar-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: is it in the base storage or a warehouse? [01-Mar-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dankolu** left.* [01-Mar-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeltaSwing** left.* [01-Mar-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Moopi**: base storage i believe, it says "Inventory BS" [01-Mar-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Moopi**: i don't believe I have a warehouse, i'm assuming that's a building you can create [01-Mar-23 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***McChurch** left.* [01-Mar-23 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bitto** joined.* [01-Mar-23 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: I need 1 BHP if you can spare one message me please. My ship took extra damage and needs 1 more than I have in stock. I would rather repair now than wait for 1 to arrive from Benten STN. [01-Mar-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: LM ad up [01-Mar-23 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Puffy3180** left.* [02-Mar-23 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sarah_is_sad** left.* [02-Mar-23 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have three dormant Metalist Studios (FS). If you would like anything producible there, I do contract fabrication. Comes in two types: market rates, where I purchase the inputs and bring them to Katoa for processing, or labour-only, where you supply the inputs at nil cost and just pay an hourly rate for the FS. Let me know if you're interested! [02-Mar-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Indicative labour-hire pricing: [02-Mar-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SFK 21/u [02-Mar-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MFK 42/u [02-Mar-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: UTS 1,120/u [02-Mar-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BGO 84/u [02-Mar-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BGO 225/u [02-Mar-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: BCO 85/u [02-Mar-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I offer similar arrangements for 4x CLR buildings, 3x HWP, and 25x BMPs [02-Mar-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OvoDiagonal** left.* [02-Mar-23 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YungTarps** left.* [02-Mar-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **karr1981**: Hi all, anyone producing MHLs? im gonan need some for some repairs [02-Mar-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I do, none on Katoa presently though [02-Mar-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: drop me a dm with quantity and deadlines [02-Mar-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RORK1471** joined.* [02-Mar-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Munch** left.* [02-Mar-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dwi** left.* [02-Mar-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rabidrazor** joined.* [02-Mar-23 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Engineer** left.* [02-Mar-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeBigPimpin** joined.* [02-Mar-23 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kartten0** joined.* [02-Mar-23 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeBigPimpin** left.* [02-Mar-23 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeBigPimpin** joined.* [02-Mar-23 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeBigPimpin** left.* [03-Mar-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hodu** joined.* [03-Mar-23 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Wtb sfk/trn [03-Mar-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SFK? [03-Mar-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll DM you [03-Mar-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can do both [03-Mar-23 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fraser**: is there a way to convert currencies? [03-Mar-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: When playing with a free account, you'd need to trade between different CX's - they always pay in their faction currency. [03-Mar-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: If you'd have PRO there's an FX exchange, but it's usually better to trade directly with other players in your corps or such to exchange currencies. [03-Mar-23 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: If you want to know more or have further questions, please be advised the global channel is far more likely to get you answers rather than local chats [03-Mar-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Newoug** left.* [03-Mar-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eimaru** left.* [03-Mar-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BluePhoenix551** joined.* [03-Mar-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BluePhoenix551**: Greetings [03-Mar-23 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: welcome :) [03-Mar-23 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Coldfire Fire sale - Katoa LM - nothing above bid price. [03-Mar-23 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere70652fa22** left.* [03-Mar-23 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pxva** left.* [03-Mar-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Juggernacht** joined.* [03-Mar-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T-Tone** left.* [03-Mar-23 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Love the Coldfire sales. Got to buy the last three items this time. I think I enjoy them more than RL sales, probably because I could make a profit on anything I buy even if I have buyers remorse. [03-Mar-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I [03-Mar-23 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I was going to say I will try to give you more warning next time. [03-Mar-23 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The I got away from me. [03-Mar-23 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Just post somthing like a six-hour warning of the sale on the LM next time. Much as I enjoy them, newer players should get a shot at the prices since it could make their lives easier instead of mildly more convienent for older players. [03-Mar-23 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well most of the time they are spur of the moment. My ships are tied up and I suddenly realized I need RAT so I needed some credits to buy groceries. [03-Mar-23 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have lots of RAT now thanks to Toll Inc [03-Mar-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Well, you do you. Next sale I would appreciate a item sale list with your post so I can enviously look at what I missed if I was late. :) [03-Mar-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirLordCjin** joined.* [03-Mar-23 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Today's sale: 50 STL 45000, 200 SIO 10000, 200 LST 20000, 50 FE 20000, 20 HE3 8000, 1000 sf 7000, 1000 FF 9000, 50 FLX 2500, 100 TS 7500, 10 COF 4000, 20 COT 26000 [03-Mar-23 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That doesn't include what you bought, obviously. [03-Mar-23 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Yup, I'm envious. Have a good one! 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[05-Mar-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’d come and collect FE/AL if there’s stock [05-Mar-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wipedout36** joined.* [05-Mar-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrunchyDollar6** joined.* [05-Mar-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmiLego** joined.* [05-Mar-23 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malign-Data** left.* [05-Mar-23 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cull113** left.* [05-Mar-23 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Holios** left.* [05-Mar-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jonathan314S** joined.* [05-Mar-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Neke, I just picked up a load of metal. FOE is in surplus. However, there is 46 AL, 86 FE and 35 STL id you want to buy that. 650, 400 and 950. 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My smelters are stopped until I deliver some oxygen. [06-Mar-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I slept in this morning and had to leave everything unattended while I headed into the office. I will have the smelters going again in about 15 hours. [06-Mar-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Oh, thats terrible. I hate it when real life gets in the way of my gaming career like that. [06-Mar-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grandpa_Canuck**: Try retiring, thats working well for me lol [06-Mar-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm retiring may 31st. 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[07-Mar-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***italian15** joined.* [08-Mar-23 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: The wiki is quite extensive on that one https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/index.html {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/index.html Efficiency factors :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [08-Mar-23 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrazyThing002** left.* [08-Mar-23 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blablagame** joined.* [08-Mar-23 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chapais** left.* [08-Mar-23 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoubleDeathclaw** left.* [08-Mar-23 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheAdaptoid** joined.* [08-Mar-23 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirLordCjin** left.* [09-Mar-23 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: why there are no scientist at all? and none are coming..i know they have to come from engineers but...still none? [09-Mar-23 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Requires higher level of POPI structures than Katoa currently have [09-Mar-23 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: we are all hard working people here on Katoa. We don't need some scientists to tell us how to do stuff :) [09-Mar-23 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: :) [09-Mar-23 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: scientists would need university, or at least library. I've asked some time ago if anyone is interested in employing them at Katoa, but got no answers [09-Mar-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aesou** left.* [09-Mar-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nighthawk420** joined.* [09-Mar-23 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aso** joined.* [09-Mar-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakobtheonlyone** joined.* [09-Mar-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FEUERH0LZ** joined.* [09-Mar-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eremita** joined.* [09-Mar-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StellaryWisdom** left.* [09-Mar-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If people are interested to have scienist, I can try to arrange that we get some in future. It will take some time tho, since I want to finish my first finance report first. [09-Mar-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: btw I will put it open for everyone on UFO channel, as soon as it is finished [09-Mar-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smiler** left.* [09-Mar-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: katoa is literally the best planet [09-Mar-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadMonk2022** joined.* [09-Mar-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MadMonk2022**: yo guys i just started as a manufacturer, but i dont have the resources to build pioneer habitations. what do i do? [09-Mar-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrTyny** joined.* [09-Mar-23 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***diamantoso** left.* [09-Mar-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadMonk2022** left.* [09-Mar-23 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: SELLING 208 Tectosilisite (TS) @ 10,400.00 CIS at JS-299b and I have just built a warehouse there. [09-Mar-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: should start with enough for two [09-Mar-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bitto** left.* [09-Mar-23 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heckerman** left.* [09-Mar-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Check you ship. you need to unload the stuff from your ship to the planet [10-Mar-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***R01DS0Z** left.* [10-Mar-23 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Visual_wizard** left.* [10-Mar-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yolotradecze** joined.* [10-Mar-23 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: 'morning gentlemen [10-Mar-23 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: ^ [10-Mar-23 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: this overlord has the right idea [10-Mar-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TypicalGrunt** joined.* [10-Mar-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: Hi, sorry if that's a common knowledge, but I just started and can't build any buildings - I am missing MGC and SEA. [10-Mar-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: Any ideas where to get those? [10-Mar-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: Reading through the chat - it seems that I am not alone. And the problem seems to be that this planet requires SEA and MGC (unlike other starter planets), which are not provided in starter pack. [10-Mar-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: I had no trouble starting as a fuel engineer [10-Mar-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: what starter pack did you choose? [10-Mar-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: its likely a bug after you start a new base just refresh the page [10-Mar-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: yeah sweet, I was unsure if that was actually an oversight or not [10-Mar-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i had the same earlyer today when i placed down my new Etherwind base :) [10-Mar-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: gz on the expansion [10-Mar-23 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: Refreshing didn't help, but restarting browser did help - probably some cache settings on my browser is/was borked. [10-Mar-23 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: at least you got it fixed [10-Mar-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: yep - and I decided to settle as Victualler on a "gas station" of a planet :) [10-Mar-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: mwahaha, gas fruits [10-Mar-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: "what do you want to huff for dinner??" [10-Mar-23 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: too bad there is no such recipe in REF :( :D [10-Mar-23 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TypicalGrunt**: lots of BEA though :) [10-Mar-23 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: causes gas :D [10-Mar-23 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rionan** deleted this message.* [10-Mar-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RORK1471** left.* [10-Mar-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: How are the profits these evening gentlemen? [10-Mar-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: I would tell you mine, but unfortunately, I have just set down and some... investments are needed before generating capital [10-Mar-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: I also gotta make the fucking atmosphere filter for hydrogen [10-Mar-23 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: Because fuck FTL, we are on that SbL shit [10-Mar-23 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: (SbL standing for Sub-Light speed) [10-Mar-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: i'll be happy when i get to making enough fuel isn't a constant PITA. [10-Mar-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: everything seems to be going well on my end... ships going in and out [10-Mar-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Umbra's alignment with the CX is soon!!! [10-Mar-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: only happens like 2-3 times per year [10-Mar-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darksouls** joined.* [10-Mar-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darksouls** left.* [10-Mar-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darksouls** joined.* [10-Mar-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mamato20** joined.* [10-Mar-23 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slamdog00** left.* [10-Mar-23 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nesaraca** left.* [10-Mar-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redotsalmon** joined.* [10-Mar-23 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kartten0** left.* [10-Mar-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WarriorAL** left.* [11-Mar-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hodu** left.* [11-Mar-23 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: messed up my ove contractss lol 2 peeps got a crazy deal [11-Mar-23 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YellowTheManager**: haha shouldnt make contracts when im so sleepy [11-Mar-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuifje** joined.* [11-Mar-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: hey guys i've posted an ad for water (somehow i've messed up the supplies) and it would be nice if someone could fulfill it [11-Mar-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: thank you very much thoern [11-Mar-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: np :) [11-Mar-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bambino** joined.* [11-Mar-23 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpeakerGenderball** joined.* [11-Mar-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moopi** left.* [11-Mar-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BluePhoenix551** left.* [11-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: hello, I am looking for a shipper. [11-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: where to [11-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: 2 days round trip, I pay both ways [11-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: CB-282d [11-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: weight of payload? [11-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: max [11-Mar-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: nothing to bring there, or to sell yourself [11-Mar-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: hence why I pay both ways [11-Mar-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: hmm maybe, what time frame you looking for [11-Mar-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: As fast as possible, but don't overburn fuel to get there [11-Mar-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: just do it in the sweet spot of efficiency [11-Mar-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: a bit less than a day to get there [11-Mar-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I pay 12K CIS [11-Mar-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: my next freighter will be available in 16h, if you wanted to make a contract [11-Mar-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **beanl0rd**: you need 500t or 1k t [11-Mar-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I'll send one [11-Mar-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TerraCat474** joined.* [11-Mar-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nuclear_icbm** joined.* [11-Mar-23 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ModGod30** joined.* [11-Mar-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lifeCouncilmen** joined.* [11-Mar-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boing_Corporation** joined.* [11-Mar-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osamabinballin** joined.* [11-Mar-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Big block of sub-CX DW on the LM [12-Mar-23 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meeps** joined.* [12-Mar-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: looking to buy AL/FE. will pick up if helpful [12-Mar-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not looking for heavy discounts, just supply [12-Mar-23 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Salok** joined.* [12-Mar-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxianVM** joined.* [12-Mar-23 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JRP04** joined.* [12-Mar-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TerraCat474**: is everything supposed to take so long? [12-Mar-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it will improve a bit as you gain experts, but yes [12-Mar-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***punkmlia** left.* [12-Mar-23 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hermescaduceus** left.* [12-Mar-23 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: Got a question: How many of yall's are fuel junkies [12-Mar-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: (aka starting as fuel refiners) [12-Mar-23 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I am [12-Mar-23 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: are you one as well? [12-Mar-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: nope fuel just spawns when i post a LM ad and ping my fuel wizard:) [12-Mar-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: fuel is dark magic [12-Mar-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: fuel is money [12-Mar-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: one of my next projects is to go full scale on fuel [12-Mar-23 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: the fuel buisness is a gold mine! [12-Mar-23 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: No srsly, the only shit i have to buy is hydrogen [12-Mar-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: this planet is the shit [12-Mar-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: We cookin' with chili powder [12-Mar-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I've got 5 ref here [12-Mar-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: Also, can you give a fellow fuel junkie a tip on when to sell the fuel? [12-Mar-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: but I'll soon hit the fuel market full scale [12-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: 1 got one, but i got a ship with materials for another. Started like two days ago so... [12-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: :I [12-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: are you on SF or FF? [12-Mar-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: I'm doing SF cause I can mine two of the commodities needed [12-Mar-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: also it has genereally better price/workhour ratio [12-Mar-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: at least i think [12-Mar-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: I didn't account for market deviations... [12-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: the main benefit is logistics [12-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: Yup [12-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: Also producing your own fuel is really nice [12-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: They say a trader should not consume his product, but in this case its beneficial [12-Mar-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: i'm also a sf producer, small numbers tho, and it is very nice to produce what you need [12-Mar-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: we should coordinate together and form an OPEC [12-Mar-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: Anyone needing shipping from Katoa to Moria Station i have 319Ton and 398m3 space free for the trip, with a 2 day delivery, leaving in 2 1/2 hours. [12-Mar-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: 6 days old, what are you going to do in mor? [12-Mar-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: deliver some other contracts i picked up at benton station when i was getting some supplies [12-Mar-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: still worth the trip? [12-Mar-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: fuel wise [12-Mar-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: pays fuel both ways for me plus a little left so im good with it [12-Mar-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: ok, be careful NCC Self sufficiency is not the way to survival in capitalist space [17-Mar-23 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yolotradecze** deleted this message.* [17-Mar-23 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: *Laughs in Autarky [17-Mar-23 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if anyone's flying to Proxion, please take my shipment: LMA UV-351a/51882 [17-Mar-23 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it's only 10t, and my pioneers are complaining about lack of COF [17-Mar-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***escORT_Paul** joined.* [17-Mar-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zolanius** joined.* [17-Mar-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nebnar** joined.* [17-Mar-23 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zolanius**: Ahoy! The starter contract says "pick up" XY materials. Does that mean to buy from commodity market, or is there a drop-point where I can actually pick it up? [17-Mar-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Flying Katoa - Ben CX with 1850 t 1730 m3 free - moving out shortly if anyone wants some goods moved. [17-Mar-23 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eremita** left.* [17-Mar-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: @Zolanius If its pick up whatever and it has a dash beside it in next row you are providing that item, if it has a name (faction or player) they are providing it, if its provided to you it will list where it is located. [17-Mar-23 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: wait i miss read that, i read it as provision. What i wrote is not correct for "Pick Up" Pickup with a dash is provided to you from them and it should say where its been provided at. [17-Mar-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: https://i.imgur.com/6hHkLw7.png {Embed} https://imgur.com/6hHkLw7 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BQxxTF174ALRvX0pcyTmnYc_Dup5MrwZgCiSXbu7zlI/https/i.imgur.com/6hHkLw7.png [17-Mar-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crash5291**: In the image i posted is a contract, Line 1 They are providing shipment at Katoa Line 2 I pick it up at Katoa Line 3 I move it to Katoa Line 4 They pay me Line 5 They give me DW into me base warehouse Line 6 i get points. [17-Mar-23 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nidan** joined.* [18-Mar-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zolanius**: @Crash5291 Thanks for the help! 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[19-Mar-23 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: maybe reduced overall efficiency due to more production buildings but not enough habitats and/or missing Pioneers? [19-Mar-23 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Repair? [19-Mar-23 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: the efficiency is at 80%, but I require 120 workers and my workforce is 121 [19-Mar-23 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: yeah I just repaired it, I'll finish the next order in 13 minutes hopefully it'll update tehn [19-Mar-23 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: repair should not be the issue at 11 days old [19-Mar-23 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: how large is your capacity? [19-Mar-23 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: workforce capacity is 200 from two pioneer habitats [19-Mar-23 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: also idk if it ever was 9 hours but I swear it was [19-Mar-23 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Consumables? [19-Mar-23 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: 20 OVE 35 RAT 60DW [19-Mar-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: everything is perfect for them [19-Mar-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: COF and PWO missing [19-Mar-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: but they arent required and I never had them before [19-Mar-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: atleast I haven't seen them [19-Mar-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: they bring efficency to 100% instead of 80% [19-Mar-23 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: godam space goblins sneaking in speed juice to make my workers addicted! [19-Mar-23 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: the thing is I swear they were producing in 9 hours without any COF or POW [19-Mar-23 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blablagame**: because I've been sustaining myself on the production of GAL and SF and buying both COF and POW for my workers would be to expensive [19-Mar-23 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsMellowMan** left.* [19-Mar-23 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tibx** joined.* [19-Mar-23 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***leaver12** joined.* [19-Mar-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rock123ra** joined.* [19-Mar-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VincentHuynh** joined.* [19-Mar-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Just rejoined the game now that I have some time again, anyone in need of a GAL or SF supplier? :) [19-Mar-23 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: If you can supply me with 100-150GAL per day then you have your client :) [19-Mar-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bobwobbob**: I'd also appreciate some extra GAL, depending on the price [19-Mar-23 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nuclear_icbm** left.* [19-Mar-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morbid** joined.* [19-Mar-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ModGod30** left.* [19-Mar-23 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***meowish** joined.* [19-Mar-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: GAL at a decent low price, need to clear some inventory space. 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[20-Mar-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: sure, send me contract [20-Mar-23 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zolanius** left.* [20-Mar-23 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Found it thx [20-Mar-23 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AgentXForReal** joined.* [20-Mar-23 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magnov** left.* [20-Mar-23 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mautier** joined.* [20-Mar-23 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DxMickey** joined.* [20-Mar-23 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chizarammaduabuchi74** joined.* [20-Mar-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pantalone** joined.* [20-Mar-23 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***abcru** joined.* [20-Mar-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rug** joined.* [20-Mar-23 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxianVM** left.* [21-Mar-23 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MafakinGOOY** joined.* [21-Mar-23 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dugolliak** joined.* [21-Mar-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adoro** joined.* [21-Mar-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murtaugh** left.* [21-Mar-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lucafeijen** joined.* [21-Mar-23 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amby** joined.* [21-Mar-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capuccino** joined.* [21-Mar-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TyGuy464646** joined.* [21-Mar-23 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TyGuy464646** left.* [21-Mar-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Diplomat** left.* [21-Mar-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flashbong** joined.* [21-Mar-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hey everyone [21-Mar-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mormaz** joined.* [21-Mar-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i got scammed by tutorial damn [21-Mar-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mormaz**: How ? :o [21-Mar-23 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: it made me build a extractor while i need a collector for fuels [21-Mar-23 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: how do i handle that now [21-Mar-23 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mormaz** left.* [21-Mar-23 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: @flashbong You can get 100% of resources back within 15 minutes of construction [21-Mar-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: or an hour [21-Mar-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Yolotradecze**: idk now [21-Mar-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn i am far beyond that lol [21-Mar-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i guess i gotta go with it [21-Mar-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: so what do you guys think is the best way to deal with it? make STL? [21-Mar-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ftl seems like higher profit [21-Mar-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: i went for EXT instead of COL on base [21-Mar-23 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: it worked out well for me till i opened my 3rd ref, now i consume 88 H a day lol [21-Mar-23 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: so i had to go build an H base [21-Mar-23 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: I also guess ill throw 2 more units of H out [21-Mar-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: H? but my ext is only collecting gal [21-Mar-23 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: as it should [21-Mar-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: for fuel u can only get AMM and GAL on planet [21-Mar-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: i build another base for H [21-Mar-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: on another planet [21-Mar-23 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ah ok thx i will look out for that [21-Mar-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: you know from memory the cost of col and ext? [21-Mar-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: 16bse i think [21-Mar-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: 16 BSE.CI1 60 MCG.CI1 for Coll [21-Mar-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: 16 bse.ci1 and 100 mcg.ci1 for ext [21-Mar-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: ughh [21-Mar-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: u can do the math lol [21-Mar-23 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hah ok thx :-) [21-Mar-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ok so one last question for today: where do i see how many rations etc i need per day? [21-Mar-23 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CumJab** joined.* [21-Mar-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: Fio [21-Mar-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: Or do the math from the workspace tab [21-Mar-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: workforce* [21-Mar-23 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: it will tell you how much consumables you use in total [21-Mar-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: per day [21-Mar-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: so take that number and times it by how many days u want [21-Mar-23 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: is there a shortage of H? i just sold 700u!!! 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[22-Mar-23 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: Yes for 500H [22-Mar-23 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MerkalAubauch** left.* [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Yes, I'd buy the CLI [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Send me a contract for the 900 if still available [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Cheers, had to do Tetris to even fit it for sale [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: :) thx [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rarestingray** joined.* [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chewie____** joined.* [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: man at first i thought u said any one interested in a cli! i got so excited [31-Mar-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scrilla** left.* [31-Mar-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Ad to buy BSE on local market places :) [31-Mar-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Hello. Does someone sell 1 LDE on Katoa? Buy order is on local market. Thank you in advance. [31-Mar-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rionan**: Thank you for fast delivery. [31-Mar-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Welcome [31-Mar-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dugolliak** left.* [31-Mar-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***monstercat** joined.* [31-Mar-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zelootoid** joined.* [31-Mar-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krix** left.* [31-Mar-23 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mautier** left.* [31-Mar-23 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xkalgib** joined.* [31-Mar-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bashnako** left.* [31-Mar-23 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Appleseed** joined.* [31-Mar-23 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What’s the going bid for CLI here? I’ve almost finished saturating LST.CI1 [31-Mar-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BluMyst** left.* [31-Mar-23 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RRXXX** joined.* [31-Mar-23 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***powersuite6** left.* [01-Apr-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sand6968** left.* [01-Apr-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Val3ro** joined.* [01-Apr-23 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Producing an excess 50 GAL daily that I’m looking to sell. Shoot me a PM if you want to set up a contract :) [01-Apr-23 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gusse** joined.* [01-Apr-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gimni** joined.* [01-Apr-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheShadowLicker** left.* [01-Apr-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pigboy009** left.* [01-Apr-23 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pazcifier** joined.* [01-Apr-23 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crash5291** left.* [01-Apr-23 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDR** joined.* [02-Apr-23 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: wtb gal locally [02-Apr-23 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_flear** left.* [02-Apr-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aeristox** joined.* [02-Apr-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PepeIsLepen** joined.* [02-Apr-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PepeIsLepen** left.* [02-Apr-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PepeIsLepen** joined.* [02-Apr-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: Hey, new fuel producer here. Happy to provide to anyone that needs it and learn aswell [02-Apr-23 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grembluz** joined.* [02-Apr-23 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lagair** left.* [02-Apr-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ankal** joined.* [02-Apr-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: a 1024 CIS cost in STL fuel for flying at benten cx and coming back at Katoa is normal ? it seems to cheap to be real [02-Apr-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nosrep71** left.* [02-Apr-23 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3fae6bd920** left.* [02-Apr-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa6058bf15** left.* [02-Apr-23 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: Katoa and BEN station are very close right now this will change over time [02-Apr-23 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spacemans_craft** left.* [02-Apr-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SearAgate** left.* [03-Apr-23 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: MS UV-351 [03-Apr-23 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TechTheAwesome**: You can see how close each planets/stations are using the system map [03-Apr-23 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duwen_Blade** left.* [03-Apr-23 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: okey,so i can calculate the distance between the tow in an spreadsheet with the orbital speed ect... or i have a easier possiblity already in game ? [03-Apr-23 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: use BLU command, test a blueprint and you can get estimates from current positions since they keep changing [03-Apr-23 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Also, fuel costs will alternate heavily with speed - if you are OK with slow speed, you will get cheap rides fuelwise. [03-Apr-23 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Though do not neglect damage suffered as hull plating will need to be changed regulary to avoid speed issues [03-Apr-23 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Never go below 80% hull rating [03-Apr-23 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***matrwd** left.* [03-Apr-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***solikk** joined.* [03-Apr-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jedikight13** left.* [03-Apr-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Eh, 70% is fine if you are producing your own fuel [03-Apr-23 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: okey thx [03-Apr-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: are hydroponics used a lot ? [03-Apr-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Time is far more valuable than anything to me, can't suffer delays :P [03-Apr-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it depends. hydroponics are an expensive alternative to farms; they're unaffected by fertility, use less space, but a lot more H2O [03-Apr-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hey boys how is everyone [03-Apr-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: may i ask this: if i collect helium from an atmosphere do i get helium3? [03-Apr-23 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyperr** left.* [03-Apr-23 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: nope, can only collect AMM and O here [03-Apr-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: There are planets with Helium3 ... but Helium3 is different than Helium. You need to specifically go to an HE3 planet to collect it. I would recommend the FIO database to search for such planets, but others might have a different recommended tool. 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[04-Apr-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RIDAI** joined.* [04-Apr-23 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drekky**: Hello [04-Apr-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drekky**: I'll have a ship flying from Benten Station to Katoa in few minutes with some cargo space to spare. Does anyone need anything shipped? [04-Apr-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: how much free space do you have? [04-Apr-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drekky**: 250t/395m3 [04-Apr-23 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: perfect [04-Apr-23 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have a base on JS-299b with a local market and a warehouse if you want to buy TS and 50 CIS per unit. But you must go there to get it. [04-Apr-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: at 50 CIS per unit [04-Apr-23 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 208 units fills a small ship and I currently have 696 units on hand. I am on my way there to get it but I will be selling aat bid price when I bring it back to Katoa. 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[05-Apr-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BuzzBee**: status is "pending" on all 5 items in the contract, and the overall status is set to "closed" [05-Apr-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BuzzBee**: did I do something wrong somwhere? transfering DW to and from my ships in orbit does not seem to have any effect [05-Apr-23 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BuzzBee**: or do I have to do them in a specific order? meaning 1-2-3 and so on? because #1 is "complete a production order" [05-Apr-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: its a faction contract or? [05-Apr-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: you have to wait until a (any) production has finished, than step 1 "fullfill" [05-Apr-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BuzzBee**: aha, ok then, I will wait until tomorrow and see what changes -- thank you for clearing it up for me! [05-Apr-23 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mormaz**: Prices for basic supplies Offers are increasing faster than prices for GAL demand. I just started 10 days ago and the bill to feed my workers has seen an increase around 40Β¨%. [05-Apr-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xtera** joined.* [05-Apr-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pechosgordos** left.* [05-Apr-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ConstellationExpress** joined.* [05-Apr-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ankal** left.* [05-Apr-23 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluy** joined.* [05-Apr-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MidasPL** left.* [05-Apr-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rubbergoldfish** left.* [05-Apr-23 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Mormaz, make sure you're accepting Faction Contracts that provide some of those as well. I've gotten 50+ Rations/Drinking Water from simple (give X GAL) missions. :) [05-Apr-23 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jamescassidy2012** left.* [05-Apr-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scrof** left.* [05-Apr-23 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hartensteinj** joined.* [05-Apr-23 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: What are some recommended buildings for a fuel producer just starting out? Any game tips? [05-Apr-23 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **R3V**: I'm new as well so don't really know what I am doing but I found that investing in a second REF and buying the H and HE3 for FTL fuel was more productive than trying to get an EXT and COL and trying to self produce GAL and AMM. Not sure if that's really the smart platy or not but it's what I have been doing. [05-Apr-23 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: K thx I have been crunching numbers all day to figure out what to do. XD [05-Apr-23 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: I think it is harder to set up, but going fully self sufficient would be better for profits in the long run. [05-Apr-23 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: I think [05-Apr-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **R3V**: I found I would have needed to scale out a lot before I could balance the GAL and AMM production and achieve a decent volume of SF production [05-Apr-23 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **R3V**: having a supply of HE3 would be great though haha [05-Apr-23 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: Yup, I might just import resources for now, as building materials are a lot of money, but you can make water and rations on this planet. [05-Apr-23 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **R3V**: I'm not suggesting buying GAL, AMM, H for STL sorry, I buy H and HE3 for FF and sell the GAL I produce as is [05-Apr-23 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: Ya [05-Apr-23 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: Smart [05-Apr-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: I might do that [05-Apr-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **R3V**: No idea if it's really good or not [05-Apr-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: I'ma log off [05-Apr-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **R3V**: bye! [05-Apr-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: After intense number crunching, I found that they make a almost equal amount of money, your production, and making SF [05-Apr-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: fuel [06-Apr-23 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fliegenstube** left.* [06-Apr-23 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Manjiru** left.* [06-Apr-23 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalkyRaptor** left.* [06-Apr-23 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dk55** joined.* [06-Apr-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDumitru** left.* [06-Apr-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I started that way as well: 2 refs, and buying H and HE3 [06-Apr-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Khaz-Azaun**: A word of warning to anyone who relies on an outside supply of AMM it has been purchased up from the CX and listed at an inflated price. [06-Apr-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: I decided to go with 3 EXT for GAL, a AMM production, and a single REF for now for SF/FF. [06-Apr-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: seems like a lot of room for 1 REF [06-Apr-23 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOfficialCDU** joined.* [06-Apr-23 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Varcanna** joined.* [06-Apr-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have extra AMM in Katoa right now that I will sell for 50 per unit, up to a maximum of 500 units. Send me a contract if you are interested. [06-Apr-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BombX** joined.* [06-Apr-23 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Georci** joined.* [06-Apr-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RebalEagle** joined.* [06-Apr-23 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: Question, is getting pro license worth the price [06-Apr-23 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AJman** left.* [06-Apr-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: You can get a month for free from an app called LootBoy. The devs talked about it here. Takes a bit of effort but worth it to trial. https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2023/03/27/lucrative-leaders-379/ {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2023/03/27/lucrative-leaders-379/ Lucrative Leaders - Development Log #379 | Prosperous Universe Learn how leaderboards are being introduced into Prosperous Universe! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9UXcOOyIFcEgGN0odkSxI2Mh4dXu2uMeWeSXS7Z6UbE/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/release_expanse.jpg [07-Apr-23 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jdestroyer** joined.* [07-Apr-23 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_krimlin_69** left.* [07-Apr-23 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooraldyk** joined.* [07-Apr-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0581d7f529** left.* [07-Apr-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zdaz14** deleted this message.* [07-Apr-23 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kyuubi** left.* [07-Apr-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: All my extra AMM has been sold. [07-Apr-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: whats this site for? [07-Apr-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: well chat ig [07-Apr-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Xtera**: the loot boy link sends me to a dev page. [07-Apr-23 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Thats a link to the devs post. Just search for Lootboy on Google and youll see PU as a reward [07-Apr-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: Can it be country locked? I dont see any rewards for PU [07-Apr-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Oh I wonder if it was a March thing only? I cant find it either now [07-Apr-23 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Code_Null** joined.* [07-Apr-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: I guess so :/ [07-Apr-23 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: Anyone doing Benten -> Katoa soon? 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Anyone interested? [08-Apr-23 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***monstercat** left.* [08-Apr-23 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I would.. if I didn't have as much to send back to the CX [08-Apr-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Salat** joined.* [08-Apr-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Question: Do I need to build a hab for Settlers for a second REF or just the single workforce fine for a second? [08-Apr-23 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends if 1 Hab for settlers can cover the needs of both REFs [08-Apr-23 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Sorry, what I meant is that I started as Fuel REF start and they gave me 1 Settler workforce. I have no hab for them due to the start. Wasnt sure if the 1 workforce can operate two REFs or if I have to build a hab before a second can run? [08-Apr-23 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Like I require 20 Settlers, I have 1 currrently but have 0 capacity if that makes sense [08-Apr-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: you can run REFs with just pioneers [08-Apr-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Ahh I was not aware! [08-Apr-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: but running less staff reduces the REF's efficiency % [08-Apr-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Appreciate the info [08-Apr-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: fuel is less than 10/u around Benten... I'm not sure if you'd want more REFs [08-Apr-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: When planning a base out, the PRUNer tool can help [08-Apr-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Appleseed** left.* [09-Apr-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: im actually running the starting package of fuel producer, making 2500 cis per day all cost included [09-Apr-23 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: the prince of STL is really low but i still make profit so its all right, and the chart says that the price will not go further down [09-Apr-23 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: we are at the all time low in 180d [09-Apr-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: The MM is at 6 and that is profitable in most circumstances, it has been all the way around when I started - though at that point people still bid to sell elsewhere & stock up :) [09-Apr-23 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Also ofc depends on input pricetags, which have gone up across the board since then, so might be some trouble for a bit [09-Apr-23 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: Anyone has some H2O that I could buy? [09-Apr-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: @Val3ro if you still need the H20, I could provide 60 at the moment. [09-Apr-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: Ill take them yeah, thank you [09-Apr-23 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: send you a PM [09-Apr-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gimni** left.* [09-Apr-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baalat** joined.* [09-Apr-23 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Radamier** joined.* [09-Apr-23 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pazcifier** left.* [09-Apr-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Slyz** deleted this message.* [09-Apr-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baalat** left.* [09-Apr-23 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baalat** joined.* [09-Apr-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrDolphin3** joined.* [10-Apr-23 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zelootoid** left.* [10-Apr-23 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nevysha** left.* [10-Apr-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Argos** left.* [10-Apr-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: @Val3ro i produce H2O for nothing, i can sell it to you in a long term contract ! [10-Apr-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PepeIsLepen**: i m free LIc so idk if its possible [10-Apr-23 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Only CX trading for free licenses so that's a bit tricky to arrange [10-Apr-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RRXXX** left.* [10-Apr-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpamlessGrim** joined.* [10-Apr-23 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5ba71640d3** left.* [10-Apr-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2dc3476f0a** left.* [10-Apr-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sedail** joined.* [10-Apr-23 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AvoidedCobra** joined.* [10-Apr-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Movement** joined.* [10-Apr-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***red031000** left.* [11-Apr-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1f0311edcc** left.* [11-Apr-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9a210db1db** left.* [11-Apr-23 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDR** left.* [11-Apr-23 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kyne** joined.* [11-Apr-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf962163f59** left.* [12-Apr-23 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***djpotter** left.* [12-Apr-23 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nobby** joined.* [12-Apr-23 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***A-Droid** left.* [12-Apr-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fryguy5134** left.* [12-Apr-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HolySmokesBatman** left.* [12-Apr-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd05bfc4bc5** left.* [12-Apr-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cKlaus** joined.* [12-Apr-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaxN** joined.* [12-Apr-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userefa7a48971** left.* [12-Apr-23 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wsteenson104** joined.* [13-Apr-23 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user37becba191** left.* [13-Apr-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xephrax** joined.* [13-Apr-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xephrax** left.* [13-Apr-23 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xephrax** joined.* [13-Apr-23 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf656af3b9a** left.* [13-Apr-23 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gusse** left.* [13-Apr-23 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AsyncException** left.* [13-Apr-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blazeoverlord** joined.* [13-Apr-23 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jodaba** joined.* [13-Apr-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluy** left.* [13-Apr-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alfea** joined.* [13-Apr-23 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evis** joined.* [13-Apr-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Not sure why it's not showing my corporation on the governor voting but please vote for me! [13-Apr-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hello360Jelly_Jr** joined.* [13-Apr-23 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi everyone. Seems like another term is almost over. I will run for governor again too. I think I almost stabilzed the population and took care of the upkeep well so far. [13-Apr-23 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I guess the next goals, in case I will be elected again, will be to adjust the taxes and to finish the already started university project. [13-Apr-23 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: @ConstellationExpress if you have some question or need some data, contact me on UFO discord. I will share all information about the planetary government i have, if requested. [13-Apr-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: of course to everyone else too. [13-Apr-23 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadiestQuill** left.* [13-Apr-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaxN** left.* [13-Apr-23 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I have no current campaign. I haven't played in a couple years and had to make a new account :) Getting back and everything has changed but I hope to see everyone out there in the verse! [13-Apr-23 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vacrotos** left.* [13-Apr-23 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hunterhawk** joined.* [14-Apr-23 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gc301** joined.* [14-Apr-23 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wyer** joined.* [14-Apr-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Myvar** joined.* [14-Apr-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfed4dfb4f6** left.* [14-Apr-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***silentium_noxe** joined.* [14-Apr-23 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOfficialCDU** left.* [14-Apr-23 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Anyone interested in buying STL? Have 118 local for sale. [14-Apr-23 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Val3ro**: I could use 10 of them :) [14-Apr-23 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lex.ross96** left.* [14-Apr-23 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Posted order for some H :) [14-Apr-23 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2762e0dfb7** left.* [14-Apr-23 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bandyou** joined.* [15-Apr-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jdestroyer** left.* [15-Apr-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hamiltonbarryj** left.* [15-Apr-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I can take the rest info [15-Apr-23 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7eb9896758** left.* [15-Apr-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoLifeGamer06** joined.* [15-Apr-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Speck** joined.* [15-Apr-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: any susgestions for a new player i started out fuel now question it for rat and dr [15-Apr-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: corp [15-Apr-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: starting with fuel works... players have the chance to become self-sufficient later in.. but not while starting [15-Apr-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: so even if you did make RATs or DR... you'd still need other consumable inputs. [15-Apr-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: I was just looking at the demand of the Rats and seen it being rather large for a starter. i think i am going to stick with fuel [15-Apr-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah.. RATs are a bit abnormal... place decent bids for the stuff and you'll likely receive it cheaper than list price [15-Apr-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: when starting, you can sell ~1/2 your starting fuel for extra funs for consumable, production materials, or pre-fabs for more buildings [15-Apr-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: i was looking into doing that to get more buildings [15-Apr-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: then again... nothing stopping you from investing into other industry buildings to be more self sufficient [15-Apr-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: such as a BMP and FP [15-Apr-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Katoa is quite decent for a lot of industries [15-Apr-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: i am seeing that this games has a lot of option. and even thought of going into other areas. my first thought was to stick with a basic need to make sure i dont sink [15-Apr-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: It's all about how you'd like to play the game. Plus there are helpful tools here: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ Community Resources :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [15-Apr-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NanuNanu** joined.* [15-Apr-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd recommend PRUNer to help plan your base and joining the offical/community discords [15-Apr-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: after 1-2 months, consider PRO if you're enjoying the game. [15-Apr-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: there is just a lot of opportunity without it. [15-Apr-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: Where do i find PRUNer? [15-Apr-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's a planning tool [15-Apr-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: helps tetris buildings together and plan production [15-Apr-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: then again... 1st bases usually end up as hodge-podges until it gets straightened out later [15-Apr-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: bases only have soo much area for activities... so planning it out can help [15-Apr-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if interested guide to fuel start: http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2022/05/prun-alternative-start-fuel-engineer.html [15-Apr-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: I just started my first production line orders, am I basically blocked until those complete? [15-Apr-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Speck**: Thank you for all the help [15-Apr-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bandyou** left.* [15-Apr-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cablaze88** left.* [15-Apr-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Feldsperling** left.* [15-Apr-23 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vxnomthemenace** joined.* [16-Apr-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RebalEagle** left.* [16-Apr-23 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @NanuNanu your options are limited, yes, but there still are some. you could spend some time planning - check what each building can produce, check the prices, and plan your expansion. or you could trade between CXes; e.g if you buy TCL at Benten and sell it at Antares, you may earn 1k per unit. there's some risk of course, prices may change before you get there [16-Apr-23 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***liawliaw592** joined.* [16-Apr-23 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: at the beginning, your ships can give you more profits than your production, either with trading or with shipment contracts. that's why I don't recommend selling half of your fuel and grounding one ship as many players do [16-Apr-23 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheLemoning** joined.* [16-Apr-23 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BouncyBiscuits** joined.* [16-Apr-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: but trading is so damn complicated because of the different currencies. Is there some way to exchange currencies? [16-Apr-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is FX buffer if you have PRO account but most of the time it's easier to ship stuff to another cx, sell it there for local currency, then buy new stuff there and sell it on Benten to get CIS [16-Apr-23 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: currencies are not much of a hinderence when trading [16-Apr-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordOfWoe** left.* [16-Apr-23 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Where ever you you want to buy something in a foreign currency, just bring something there to sell. If research a bit, you'll find that you can even make some money in process [16-Apr-23 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: sell prefabs on HOR, buy RAT there, sell it on MOR for example [16-Apr-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UltraLuigi** left.* [16-Apr-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***p0ppa** left.* [16-Apr-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***amsquid** left.* [16-Apr-23 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***waycrush** left.* [16-Apr-23 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hartensteinj** left.* [16-Apr-23 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Salat** left.* [16-Apr-23 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Glugaru** left.* [16-Apr-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liver22** joined.* [17-Apr-23 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***James.deaf45** joined.* [17-Apr-23 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuzkarN** joined.* [17-Apr-23 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you can also buy and sell EDC or another MM fodder everywhere for the same price to exchange currencies [17-Apr-23 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingViggy** joined.* [17-Apr-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tief** joined.* [17-Apr-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: hi guys i'm in dire need of MCG and i'd be very grateful if someone could fill the ad i've just posted, [17-Apr-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Gotcha covered [17-Apr-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dk55** left.* [17-Apr-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c5e1005df** left.* [17-Apr-23 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wolfeye38** left.* [17-Apr-23 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BOT.Andy** joined.* [17-Apr-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Someone trading between org? Multiple buy sells for only 1 CIS [17-Apr-23 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that happens quite a bit between corp members [17-Apr-23 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zdaz14**: Or in my case: Made a typo when creating a sell contract lol. But yeah, orgs do that for each other [17-Apr-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Radamier** left.* [18-Apr-23 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: lol nice. Just making sure it wasn't somebody just randomly helping the new or the poor xD [18-Apr-23 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HanSolo** joined.* [18-Apr-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KuzWe** joined.* [18-Apr-23 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PAH** joined.* [18-Apr-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stella255** joined.* [18-Apr-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrakFel** left.* [18-Apr-23 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belmond** joined.* [18-Apr-23 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zach030** joined.* [18-Apr-23 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7e262578e5** left.* [18-Apr-23 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***THREE_BLIND_SHARKS** joined.* [18-Apr-23 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xarm** joined.* [19-Apr-23 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap TRU.CI1 available, listed at 300 [19-Apr-23 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LST.CI1 as well [19-Apr-23 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bazdit** joined.* [19-Apr-23 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user54f261646e** left.* [19-Apr-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cucthu089** joined.* [19-Apr-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryjedo** joined.* [19-Apr-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thebatmax** joined.* [19-Apr-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Glugar** left.* [19-Apr-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***barretrecon** joined.* [19-Apr-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***didimaster111** joined.* [19-Apr-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flashco** joined.* [19-Apr-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ceinnort**: Hey everyone, is it possible to make "macros" when buying things. I usually end up buying always the same things at the same quantity each time I go to the market? [19-Apr-23 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Estbrooke** left.* [19-Apr-23 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emrule** left.* [19-Apr-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abelink** joined.* [19-Apr-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6b45b509bf** left.* [19-Apr-23 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Not that I know. You only can safe a contract when trading with player directly. But I don't think there is a way to make a macro for the CX. [20-Apr-23 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: As I understand it, automation is not something the devs want players to gravitate to [20-Apr-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hey boys i have the funding to basically double my production now with a second set of SF-fuel production. What do you think of that? or should i build something totally to diversivy? 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[23-Apr-23 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thoern** deleted this message.* [23-Apr-23 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: no [23-Apr-23 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **edskull**: thought so, water water everywhere but not a drop to burn [23-Apr-23 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: Do you guys slide the fuel slider all the way left? I had a look but it'd take 3.5d to get to my nearest station, lol [23-Apr-23 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I slide it all the way left... then add a few notche [23-Apr-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: basically I try to find a good balance of fuel use and time [23-Apr-23 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: Cool ty, that's what I ended up doing, 10h for 170 fuel seemed good enough [23-Apr-23 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: instead of 3.5d with 60 fuel [23-Apr-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Katoa and Benten CX orbit.. so most of the time it'll takeles fuel [23-Apr-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: CX orbit? [23-Apr-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes, the CX is a space station [23-Apr-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can view it on the system map [23-Apr-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: Ah, gotcha, ty again [23-Apr-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: once Katoa and the CX are in alignment... can go between very cheap and fast [23-Apr-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: So the planets actually orbit in this game? That's very cool [23-Apr-23 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: cool.... all the way untill Katoa is on the opposite side of the sun [23-Apr-23 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: Swings and roundabouts :D [23-Apr-23 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: CX is aligned with Umbra though..... that only happens like every 5-6 months [23-Apr-23 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: Sounds like a win for you? [23-Apr-23 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: for now... [23-Apr-23 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I knwo all too well how much gas it takes xD [23-Apr-23 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's a lot of fun [23-Apr-23 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I use the slider and base it off my time needs. More left the better as long as things are on time [23-Apr-23 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6254ceef45** left.* [23-Apr-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garbanzo** joined.* [23-Apr-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GalaxyGoblin** joined.* [23-Apr-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BBozz** joined.* [23-Apr-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DerPodCast** joined.* [23-Apr-23 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CoreDynamics** left.* [23-Apr-23 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **toONiichan**: 3 [23-Apr-23 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3a074b885** left.* [24-Apr-23 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbf56ef25eb** left.* [24-Apr-23 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WizBolt** left.* [24-Apr-23 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0579b7b975** left.* [24-Apr-23 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tororutsu**: Manage fuel? Full Burn all the Time BABE! WHOOOOO [24-Apr-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frood** joined.* [24-Apr-23 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user42fe50606e** left.* [24-Apr-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: I got a contract to contribute to public infrastructure but it says I need a pro license to do that. Is there any way I can cancel the contract? [24-Apr-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ElcidBarrett** left.* [24-Apr-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frood** left.* [24-Apr-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8bb0797ffe** left.* [24-Apr-23 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc1c0199e8b** left.* [24-Apr-23 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dokolacz** joined.* [24-Apr-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***clomp** joined.* [24-Apr-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: It should eventually just expire. And you still may receive others before it does. [24-Apr-23 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: Yeah I just received a new set of contracts, thank you. I didn't know if leaving that contract unfufilled would prevent me from getting new one [24-Apr-23 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NickyLuna** joined.* [25-Apr-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zehelys** joined.* [25-Apr-23 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuzkarN** left.* [25-Apr-23 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56a5bc3e2a** left.* [25-Apr-23 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: For relatively cheap LST: LM UV-072c [25-Apr-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: So, came to check the Benten market after a while. Any particular reason why they are so unholy? [25-Apr-23 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: ...prices I mean [25-Apr-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0b6f69bd20** left.* [25-Apr-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blazing_Rose** joined.* [25-Apr-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pixeltrex** joined.* [25-Apr-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GonkDroid7469** joined.* [25-Apr-23 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***daguy** joined.* [25-Apr-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TRIAG_CEO** joined.* [25-Apr-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4f2a0053de** left.* [25-Apr-23 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bean_Master** left.* [26-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that can become a serious issue for players that don't produce or have a deal for their inputs or intermediaries [26-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have a few thousand REP.CI1 on the station that I will be checking every day and selling into any bids in 700-1000 range. Can’t list it there or someone will simply buy it and relish at 1480. [26-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah tbh I’m close to checking out, let my PRO expire and just doing what I can do to keep LST/SIO cheap [26-Apr-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and random BMP items [26-Apr-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: markets are becoming too large or wealthy for a single producer to hold the price down [26-Apr-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can’t source AL for any price that makes sense for what people want to spend on BHP/LHP also have stopped producing. I was close to sole supplier so uh, prepare for chaos there eventually [26-Apr-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Having said that I still have the HWP. Any Katoan may bring me inputs for labor cost price plates at any time :) [26-Apr-23 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah... I've been importing a lot of AL/ALO from Ant for Beneten... and there are some huge buyers that hoist that market up [26-Apr-23 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: there are some markets were there is simply not enough supply [26-Apr-23 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I was talking to a player out in arclight the other day on global... If they dropped bulk ALO on their CX they would start to see much more traffic then what they have been trying to do [26-Apr-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: there appears to be a universal cotton shortage [26-Apr-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: and most textiles actually [26-Apr-23 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah it’s broken. I think everything is staying in corps, everyone moving up tech trees, open market is kaput. [26-Apr-23 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sounds like a good opprotunity [26-Apr-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HanSolo** left.* [26-Apr-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CEOAlice** joined.* [26-Apr-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CEOAlice** left.* [26-Apr-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: I'm a fuel refiner based on Benten - Katoa, is there any way I can extract H20 and then turn that into hydrogen or do I just have to buy hydrogen from the market for now? [26-Apr-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ceinnort**: I think you can only extract it from its gaseous form right now eg from planet like Umbra in this system [26-Apr-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: Ok, thanks for the info. I appreciate it :) [26-Apr-23 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KuzWe** left.* [26-Apr-23 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***natyboi** joined.* [26-Apr-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dokolacz**: hi, I am wondering how to recognize good planet fertility? should be the bar more to left then right from the middle mark? [26-Apr-23 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: left is bad, right is good. [26-Apr-23 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: proxion and nemesis are the two best farmworlds nearby [26-Apr-23 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dokolacz**: thx, I also discovered the handbook... 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[27-Apr-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: i have not moved anything [27-Apr-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: trying to set up refining [27-Apr-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: :) You'll do fine. Once you see a profit or need to upkeep your base, then move them. Plan then do. [27-Apr-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: how do i sell the Ammonia gas i get [27-Apr-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MAJORHIGH**: Have to take it to the Benton Station Commodity Exchange [27-Apr-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MAJORHIGH**: Local Markets will buy it if you have a Pro Account [27-Apr-23 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: do the plant orbit or do they stay still [27-Apr-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: planets [27-Apr-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: They orbit, slowly like in real life. [27-Apr-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: so i could wait for the commodity exchange to get closer [27-Apr-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: nope, it's currently getting farther away. [27-Apr-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: oh ok [27-Apr-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: if you want to wait a month for it to be closer, you can but your base will need you to move your ships before then. [27-Apr-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: why would the ships need to move [27-Apr-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: im new i don know much [27-Apr-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: take stuff to the CX to sell. Buy food and water to bring back. Accept contracts to fly freight for others. [27-Apr-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: can i extract water [27-Apr-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: sure, but you are as of yet unable to convert it the drinking water (DW) that your workers need. [27-Apr-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: how long does food and water last for you [27-Apr-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: View your Base/Workforce to find out. [27-Apr-23 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: The tutorial videos are very helpful. [27-Apr-23 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: i have resources to last a while [27-Apr-23 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: yes. take your time figuring things out. This is about as far from a twitch game as you can get. [27-Apr-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MAJORHIGH**: pretend it's real life [27-Apr-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: production fees are too high. [27-Apr-23 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9911f9e4ce** left.* [27-Apr-23 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ceinnort**: When it says that Pionneers consume 0.6units/day of COF and I have 2 units in my base inventory. Does the game keeps track of that little 0.8 after 2 days? [27-Apr-23 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: From what I got told, yes, after 5 days, only 3 will be used in total [27-Apr-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Cat119**: how much should each ammonia sell for [27-Apr-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alphatech** joined.* [27-Apr-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StrangePigeon79** joined.* [27-Apr-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thource**: According to current market rates at Benten, 1 ammonia is between 86 and 98.9 CIS [27-Apr-23 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: Sooo, newbie here, how do i convert currency in order to buy with different money? [27-Apr-23 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: Nvm found a bunch of info online [27-Apr-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hmngbrd** joined.* [27-Apr-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zach030** left.* [27-Apr-23 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thebatmax** left.* [27-Apr-23 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R4K_R34L15T4** joined.* [27-Apr-23 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Justin_lenderss** joined.* [27-Apr-23 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dokolacz** left.* [27-Apr-23 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArcheoZhero** joined.* [27-Apr-23 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbead47db30** left.* [27-Apr-23 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***barretrecon** left.* [27-Apr-23 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flashco** left.* [28-Apr-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***L0m** joined.* [28-Apr-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user98914d6c49** left.* [28-Apr-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShiJim** joined.* [28-Apr-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat119** left.* [28-Apr-23 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat119** joined.* [28-Apr-23 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat119** left.* [28-Apr-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat119** joined.* [28-Apr-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nebnar** left.* [28-Apr-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sully2306** left.* [28-Apr-23 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: anyone selling gal locally? [28-Apr-23 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I could spare like 50 but it's katoa... lol everybody got GAL xD [29-Apr-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Id mostly buy galerite since i found like a free 200 for like bloody cheap here XD. i think someone was selling excess so i got lucky [29-Apr-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: was like 200 for 8000 CIS [29-Apr-23 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sjlarowe** left.* [29-Apr-23 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: very nice [29-Apr-23 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i got 71 spare GAL [29-Apr-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: dont have pro thou [29-Apr-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GedyRaven** left.* [29-Apr-23 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: I you need it I cna look other ways [29-Apr-23 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: sent a contract anyway [29-Apr-23 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mimolette**: refuse it if you need it [29-Apr-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***John_Price** left.* [29-Apr-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Descend** joined.* [29-Apr-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Z3R07** joined.* [29-Apr-23 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MintyMax** joined.* [29-Apr-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stella255** left.* [29-Apr-23 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: hi guys, could someone pick up my ad at the LM i'm in quite a dire need of water, and it would be very helpful [29-Apr-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alderminon** left.* [29-Apr-23 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Charg3dAx1om** joined.* [29-Apr-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***winter_yukari** joined.* [29-Apr-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GalaxyGoblin** joined.* [30-Apr-23 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FosterTheFox** left.* [30-Apr-23 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDarkKiller98** left.* [30-Apr-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Just added a bunch of shipping conts on LM for a trip to Asbestos and back fitting a 500 starter vessel in case ya got a lazy ship looking for some hauling to do [30-Apr-23 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vacrotos** left.* [30-Apr-23 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hydraa** left.* [30-Apr-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JanJansen** joined.* [30-Apr-23 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***S-10** joined.* [30-Apr-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Insanium** left.* [30-Apr-23 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wahrgott** joined.* [30-Apr-23 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Riverstix55** joined.* [30-Apr-23 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Accidentally left my MCG sitting in the warehouse at the exchange. Ad on the LM if anyone can help me out. Thx! [30-Apr-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: anyone willing to buy 25 GAL from me? [30-Apr-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i need funds to keep producing [30-Apr-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i could sell 112 FTL fuel or 1500 STL too [30-Apr-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: nevermind i did a quest [30-Apr-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: Heading off to Benton Station will be there untill tomorrow night if anyone needs anything just hit me up on a contract will have 500t space [30-Apr-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: oh yeah also have 400t space before i leave for there if anyone wants to contract me to go deliver there [30-Apr-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: will leave in 1 hour [30-Apr-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OverratedDavid** joined.* [30-Apr-23 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***arcox** joined.* [01-May-23 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xKilroyx** left.* [01-May-23 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MAJORHIGH**: Needing 6 CAF. Paying 800/u 200 above BID. Contract on LM [01-May-23 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SolarisAlpha** left.* [01-May-23 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***basinat** joined.* [01-May-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Techkuro** left.* [01-May-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thilol** joined.* [01-May-23 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mamato20** left.* [01-May-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alphatech**: Heading back to Katoa in 30 mins , anyone need anything from Benten Station? [01-May-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnitedNations007** joined.* [01-May-23 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UnitedNations007**: i literally liquidated my company to move to benten and it still takes the same amount of time to go to benten station :/ [01-May-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The trip to the station varies as everything revolves around system. 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[02-May-23 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: nope [02-May-23 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: they continue to their destination... the check only occurs when launching [02-May-23 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: i did not know there were limitations there, i thought if you had a ship you could use it... is there a link to read about that? original plans for me were to PRO and buy some ships and drop to basic to use them.. :( [02-May-23 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: looking for the info... [02-May-23 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: https://prosperousuniverse.com/premium/ {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/premium/ Prosperous Universe | The Economic Space MMO In Prosperous Universe, you are the CEO of your own spacefaring company. Explore the galaxy, design spaceships, forge alliances, and most importantly: produce, trade, transport, and profit. Manage your business through a highly customizable user interface named APEX, accessible via web browser. Contribute to a purely player-driven MMO economy in... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/iw6GWFhfbXVxv9pGxGE1JgF_0dDoqQLVZGppgAEL7-U/https/prosperousuniverse.com/og/image.jpg [02-May-23 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I know they had a table around [02-May-23 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: I think you are only allowed the two starting ships on free [02-May-23 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **crippling_depression**: (did not know this was a restriction....) [02-May-23 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yeah, they placed it in the drop downs now [02-May-23 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: "More Ships Customize and build new ships if you have the cash." [02-May-23 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: i read that as "If I have pro I can buy Ships that I can use as Basic" [02-May-23 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: had to go through the wayback machine to grab what it said before: https://web.archive.org/web/20211017092618/https://prosperousuniverse.com/premium/ {Embed} https://web.archive.org/web/20211017092618/https://prosperousuniverse.com/premium/ Prosperous Universe | The Economic Space MMO In Prosperous Universe, you are the CEO of your own spacefaring company. Explore the galaxy, design spaceships, forge alliances, and most importantly: produce, trade, transport, and profit. Manage your business through a highly customizable user interface named APEX, accessible via web browser. Contribute to a purely player-driven MMO economy in... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mlhoOYS6m5XXzUrRxNaX-n-7QEsrHo1FtNoczF6NqGY/https/web.archive.org/web/20211017092618im_/https%3A/prosperousuniverse.com/og/image.jpg [02-May-23 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: thats for an older 2 tier license it looks like, doesnt include the mid tier of Basic, [02-May-23 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: exactly [02-May-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: i guess that makese sense for Trial/Pro, similar to EVE onlines Alpha/Omega, but adding that 3rd mid tier i would assume changes that and allows you to use what you already bought since you arent customizing it or building it which is the stated limitation, not the flying of it [02-May-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: off pro, you're limited to the basic number of ships in flight [02-May-23 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: hmm [02-May-23 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: guess that could use better wording/explanation on their site then, if you are allowed 2 ships, couldnt you build mega freigter? lol [02-May-23 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: well... having more ships even with being limited to 2 in-flight is still quite a boon [02-May-23 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: that changes my long term plans/goals a lot i guess [02-May-23 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: true [02-May-23 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: good to know though, thanks :) long ways away from that point though [02-May-23 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: glad to help! 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Ad listed on LM. [04-May-23 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darth_vader_69** joined.* [04-May-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0ce31b4b13** left.* [04-May-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2ca450bd84** left.* [04-May-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpoketLaban** joined.* [04-May-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balthazar** joined.* [04-May-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc1799e6e01** left.* [04-May-23 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c4c8c201b** left.* [04-May-23 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Subzer0** left.* [04-May-23 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kalanchloe** joined.* [04-May-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: If I make another pioneer habitation will that immediately increase the number of resources required to support 100 pioneers or will it only increase if they are working on a production line? [04-May-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Only when on a production line. 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Same thing as regular contracts [06-May-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ah ok thx for that! 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The next election came again faster then I thougt XD Time is running. And again, if anyone wants to get some information about the planetary government stuff, just contact me on UFO discord [11-May-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hanys** joined.* [11-May-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gravelpit** left.* [11-May-23 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Istvann** joined.* [11-May-23 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BartholomewJamesTheThird** joined.* [12-May-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HelixSama** joined.* [12-May-23 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayWilson** joined.* [12-May-23 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darth_vader_69** left.* [12-May-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GGLMG** left.* [12-May-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DustyLLC** joined.* [13-May-23 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4bfebc274a** left.* [13-May-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***donisbonis** left.* [13-May-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpoketLaban** left.* [13-May-23 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trikiz** left.* [13-May-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user416624d3be** left.* [13-May-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaczeperererererer** joined.* [13-May-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaczeperererererer**: Hello, World! 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[15-May-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: sure, post an ad [15-May-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you're rated D for reliability. I'll take the risk and assume that was caused by expired faction contracts :P [15-May-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IkkiShaka** joined.* [15-May-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***qweps** joined.* [15-May-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JesusMan** joined.* [15-May-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JesusMan**: hi peeps [15-May-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hey boys how is everyone? i wann e produce my own hydrogen now and wonder what a not too distant base would be good for that - any ideas? [15-May-23 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Open up a map buffer (on the left of the screen), and put H into the Resources field. Then decide from there... [15-May-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: UV-351c if you want to be very close but inefficient, [15-May-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cb-282d is the nearest gas giant [15-May-23 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Umbra is a tier 1 planet with H. But H is not the best thing to produce there. A gas giant is not a good target for an early player. [15-May-23 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Umbra it is then [15-May-23 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I dont know what the kids get up to these days [15-May-23 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: market seems completely snafu so I just assume everyone in corps getting setup [15-May-23 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Sometimes it is best just to buy your H on the market from an established player who built on the gas giant :) [15-May-23 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: especialy at these prices [15-May-23 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: they seem fair enough [15-May-23 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NanuNanu**: I just started as a fuel producer and thats what I do rn. I'm on benten katoa and I have plenty of ammonia and galerite. You will still make a profit and you will get plenty of shipment contracts that will make it worth your while to travel to the station anyway [16-May-23 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RKWolfy** left.* [16-May-23 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hieremiamapex** left.* [16-May-23 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XimumnPlus** joined.* [16-May-23 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pillose** left.* [16-May-23 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **robotflash**: I posted a 5000 CIS contract on benten station if someone wants to deliver 28t or400m worth of stuff to katoa [16-May-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **robotflash**: I also posted a 3000 CIS contract on benten station going to katoa with 29t or 200m worth of stuff [16-May-23 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **robotflash**: both of these are delivery within 2 days but that should be plenty for going from ben to katoa [16-May-23 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saxi** left.* [16-May-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProGotLegend** joined.* [16-May-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProGotLegend** left.* [16-May-23 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProGotLegend** joined.* [16-May-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: Thank you nanu - but i calculated that my AMM production only makes 25 cis/h while GAL makes 72/h and refinery 120/h [16-May-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: so i am trying to focus on making the refinery more effective by getting H by myself [16-May-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: also i need All purpose-fodder (23) for a contract if anyone can supply that... noone will sell it on benten station [16-May-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: robotflash: for that money i can fly 4 times [16-May-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I usually just deny those contracts xD If none of the 3 are good, I deny and wait until the next round comes in [16-May-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baykus** left.* [16-May-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah nut its easy money :D [16-May-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zunoman** left.* [16-May-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Flashbong - A secret for Katoa….produce O, sell the O at BEN and buy AMM with the proceeds from the O. 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[24-May-23 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***killath** left.* [24-May-23 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SuitGuy** joined.* [24-May-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Georci** deleted this message.* [24-May-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Anyone got an excess of Galerite? [24-May-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Im looking to start a trade. Im willing to pay or trade for fuel ig [24-May-23 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sp1cy_overlordPC** joined.* [24-May-23 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pascalengbrocks** joined.* [24-May-23 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naragor** joined.* [24-May-23 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naragor** left.* [25-May-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have some N at Biogenesys Neke86. How much were you looking for? [25-May-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armpit** left.* [25-May-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: You can take it, I only have two N collectors on Biog since I focused on AMM. 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[25-May-23 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Probably at Benten [25-May-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apricot** left.* [25-May-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks Zen [25-May-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've secured some supply but keep the CX liquid and it might help with NS/CAF/COF more generally [25-May-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and I'll buy some when I can just to help [25-May-23 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loi** left.* [26-May-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Badge_2812** left.* [26-May-23 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rug** left.* [26-May-23 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnyBon2011** joined.* [26-May-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: im ready for orders almost [26-May-23 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: production started [26-May-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mpn218** joined.* [26-May-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: anyone need water? [26-May-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: i have a batch ready to be slod [26-May-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: sold [27-May-23 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrankVice** joined.* [27-May-23 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FrankVice**: hello world [27-May-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Hi Frank - Johnny, you are not running PRO and thus have to sell at the CX - Also you might be better off running GAL extraction considering water deposit on Katoa is not that great. [27-May-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Get a feel for the game and figure things out, then there's a COLIQ command which lets you start over with that new know-how helping you get going [27-May-23 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sophie4** joined.* [27-May-23 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Feryl** left.* [27-May-23 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpeakerGenderball** left.* [27-May-23 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wolf747** joined.* [27-May-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sophie4** left.* [27-May-23 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: ok [27-May-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: rn im farming supplys but now im out of water [27-May-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: ill have stuff out soon [27-May-23 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: i will not give up on this run im already rapidly farming [27-May-23 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LevXIV** joined.* [27-May-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***teixeirazeus** joined.* [27-May-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Venthos** joined.* [27-May-23 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere6788be668** left.* [27-May-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***teixeirazeus** left.* [27-May-23 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlazenPilot** left.* [27-May-23 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeBoonahnah** joined.* [27-May-23 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bilal197** joined.* [28-May-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BetaRoman** joined.* [28-May-23 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuki42** left.* [28-May-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: 0. 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I am also lazy [29-May-23 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Petrolius** joined.* [29-May-23 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user01123bdaa0** left.* [29-May-23 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redotsalmon** left.* [30-May-23 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeVers** joined.* [30-May-23 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Good morning good people of Katao. [30-May-23 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: On ComplexTrade's comment earlier. I think this is a great game for the frustrated accountant wannabe and or the spreadsheet acholic :D [30-May-23 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LupusMax15** joined.* [30-May-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it's certainly not for everyone [30-May-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: I definitely like what I have seen of it so far. I also see the community looks open and helpful. got lots of great ideas and hints r3eading these channels [30-May-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Clout** joined.* [30-May-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It's mostly about solving logistics and numbers crunching if boiled down to it's basics [30-May-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It's not for everyone, but rewarding in it's own right [30-May-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: so far got an extractor,farmstead,refinery and rig set up, going for a food processor next to get dw/rat self sufficiency then ... the universe is mine Mwa ha ha....(you might appreciate the evil laugh :p ) [30-May-23 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quellei** left.* [30-May-23 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera16b8862af** left.* [30-May-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shedar** joined.* [30-May-23 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxMoore** left.* [30-May-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svein_MacMoney** joined.* [30-May-23 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zarkla** joined.* [31-May-23 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotaViper** joined.* [31-May-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadow_959** joined.* [31-May-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user80563fbdf0** left.* [31-May-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bracova** joined.* [31-May-23 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Faren** left.* [31-May-23 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf5d096daa6** left.* [31-May-23 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera1b7c86c62** left.* [31-May-23 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay, it took several weeks and nearly 30,000 LST (I think) but I tanked LST.CI1 so make the most of it while it's cheap. Get your lowball bids in, I'll keep it flowing into the bid. [31-May-23 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Thanks [01-Jun-23 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lolkentt** left.* [01-Jun-23 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vuVelox** left.* [01-Jun-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draver** joined.* [01-Jun-23 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb46a8b8261** left.* [01-Jun-23 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FenrisHakaari** joined.* [01-Jun-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ericsessions** joined.* [02-Jun-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraeb2eef349** left.* [02-Jun-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user27a75e5187** left.* [02-Jun-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Clout**: is fuel production profitable? [02-Jun-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Clout**: or at least compared to other industries [02-Jun-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: looking at SF price... it should be decent money your gathering GAL off Katoa [02-Jun-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if* [02-Jun-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: likely x2 REFs would be enough... as SF can get quite heavy in bulk [02-Jun-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: unless you're not looking to expand into other industries like manufacturing (for a CoGC) [02-Jun-23 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VorianAtreides** left.* [02-Jun-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hedgy** joined.* [02-Jun-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wikyle** joined.* [02-Jun-23 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khatamar** left.* [02-Jun-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gorge** joined.* [02-Jun-23 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bragosmagos** joined.* [02-Jun-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MortimeDeLaVigo** left.* [02-Jun-23 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bragosmagos**: Anyone have a corporation I can join? [02-Jun-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: On the community discord, there is a section for corps. recruiting. 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Look no further - we have one listed on auction now! [04-Jun-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1114938831133753405 [04-Jun-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d92d47ab9** left.* [04-Jun-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gh1zm0** joined.* [04-Jun-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeDahu** joined.* [04-Jun-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Venthos** left.* [04-Jun-23 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CravenMonki** joined.* [04-Jun-23 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bilal197** left.* [05-Jun-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***20joshua04** joined.* [05-Jun-23 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3ec386ba62** left.* [05-Jun-23 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userce172c2925** left.* [05-Jun-23 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khaz-Azaun** left.* [05-Jun-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Clicked on the link.. saw the bids cried since i have 0.014x (40k) of the current bid in my bank account [05-Jun-23 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: On the bright side - You won't need a third ship for a while [05-Jun-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: 5m for a WCB FTL ship XD [05-Jun-23 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: now should i bid 5m and 1 CIS XD [05-Jun-23 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: (just for the fun of it) [05-Jun-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bragosmagos**: How are yall talking about 5m like its a casual amount of money lol [05-Jun-23 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: 5m is really a lot. If I'm right, we sell WCB ships to external buyers at around 3m [05-Jun-23 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: even a LCB-ship is <4m [05-Jun-23 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: the price is relative, if you have the money and do not need it otherwise, but can buy a ship without much waiting time, then you can afford the luxury of participating in the auction [05-Jun-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bragosmagos**: Still, 3m is still a lot. [05-Jun-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: yes, it is just interesting to watch. Because ship builders could decide to change from working on a queue and with reduced prices to store parts in stock and sell for much more profit [05-Jun-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: if i buy the same ship from my corp i pay about 1.8m even a LCB ship would cost me only 2m but since i can only enter the queue with one order at a time i cant spend my money as fast as i earn it and since i produce my own L,R and Afabs money just piles up [05-Jun-23 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: This auction od na experiment. Our shipyard queue was empty and together with Gilith we decided to try it [05-Jun-23 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: there's a huge gap between internal corp prices and market prices. QCR or FSE easily sells for 1mil on CX. sure, with some patience you can get it much cheaper in corp (including ours), but if you've got millions collecting dust on your account, why not spend it? if I weren't the producer myself, I would happily bid on a ship ready for assembly [05-Jun-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0cturnal** joined.* [05-Jun-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0cturnal** left.* [05-Jun-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OilyMen** left.* [05-Jun-23 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bubblebeast7763** joined.* [06-Jun-23 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eltrekar** left.* [06-Jun-23 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***asdsd** joined.* [06-Jun-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0cturnal** joined.* [06-Jun-23 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0cturnal** left.* [06-Jun-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BetaRoman** left.* [06-Jun-23 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shinosaki** joined.* [06-Jun-23 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BuzzBee** left.* [06-Jun-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bigbussines** joined.* [06-Jun-23 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56c8a0f69f** left.* [06-Jun-23 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JerryJam** left.* [06-Jun-23 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***papryk** joined.* [06-Jun-23 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SPQRcorp** joined.* [06-Jun-23 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SPQRcorp**: test [06-Jun-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Confirmed [07-Jun-23 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user547e6ffcaa** left.* [07-Jun-23 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0f00fd3291** left.* [07-Jun-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere3974fc016** left.* [07-Jun-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BouncyBiscuits** left.* [07-Jun-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flying_Mustache** joined.* [07-Jun-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goresh** left.* [07-Jun-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***holyds** joined.* [07-Jun-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0eb2aaf4fb** left.* [07-Jun-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***minecraftman** joined.* [07-Jun-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TDS723** joined.* [07-Jun-23 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pleinair** left.* [07-Jun-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lichi0816** joined.* [07-Jun-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaDiver** joined.* [07-Jun-23 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biscuits** joined.* [07-Jun-23 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orintero** joined.* [08-Jun-23 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nirbas** joined.* [08-Jun-23 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shedar** left.* [08-Jun-23 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lichi0816** left.* [08-Jun-23 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***leen.ghamloush9** joined.* [08-Jun-23 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ranged** left.* [08-Jun-23 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Svein_MacMoney** left.* [09-Jun-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bracova** left.* [09-Jun-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amazingcute** joined.* [09-Jun-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hi Katoans. I plan to change the taxes a little bit. Please join the discussion at UFO discord if you want to give your opinion. [09-Jun-23 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VictorGore** joined.* [09-Jun-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morirem** left.* [09-Jun-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wrymlock** joined.* [09-Jun-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wrymlock** left.* [09-Jun-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Is there a planet made to be farmed? Want to get all my Farms and FPs off katoa [09-Jun-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Proxion is one jump away with an Agriculture COGC. [09-Jun-23 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: TY [09-Jun-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LogiStics** joined.* [09-Jun-23 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***r2fy2** joined.* [09-Jun-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KrisRono** joined.* [10-Jun-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meowskyy** joined.* [10-Jun-23 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user484a1b4b63** left.* [10-Jun-23 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: big LST.CI1 dump coming in ~10-12 hours [10-Jun-23 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: get your low bids in [10-Jun-23 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Cheap PE.CI1 on the LM: LMA UV-351a/55847 [10-Jun-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also if anyone is reading this and you want REP.CI1 at 400.00 each I will fulfill any contracts that come through to me for 50 units or less :) [10-Jun-23 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotaViper** left.* [10-Jun-23 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** left.* [10-Jun-23 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whiteguide** joined.* [10-Jun-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9120cfdc24** left.* [10-Jun-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gorge** left.* [10-Jun-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TwstdK9** left.* [10-Jun-23 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Markuz** joined.* [10-Jun-23 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc89bd3a30f** left.* [10-Jun-23 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChPH** joined.* [10-Jun-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R.D.Olivaw** joined.* [10-Jun-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrdoctor** joined.* [10-Jun-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user41d4e6842e** left.* [11-Jun-23 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***2MXUJHYT** joined.* [11-Jun-23 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xfl** joined.* [11-Jun-23 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Anyone have spare 10 TRU? Ad is on LM [11-Jun-23 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: sold [11-Jun-23 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: thx [11-Jun-23 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhilSouf** joined.* [11-Jun-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swed0** left.* [11-Jun-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb705f72892** left.* [11-Jun-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ace_PL** joined.* [11-Jun-23 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ace_PL** left.* [11-Jun-23 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user34e30d8ba6** left.* [11-Jun-23 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56e7624b7e** left.* [11-Jun-23 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc90a901745** left.* [11-Jun-23 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDread** left.* [12-Jun-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PygmyMammoth** joined.* [12-Jun-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lima891** joined.* [12-Jun-23 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lima891** left.* [12-Jun-23 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lima891** joined.* [12-Jun-23 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lima891** left.* [12-Jun-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarec** left.* [12-Jun-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2482f15471** left.* [12-Jun-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user65c8d0cc37** left.* [12-Jun-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chriskusch** joined.* [12-Jun-23 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lasaxal** left.* [13-Jun-23 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theminecrafter671** left.* [13-Jun-23 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***20joshua04** left.* [13-Jun-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EyangKodok** joined.* [13-Jun-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: FINALLY A SPOT!!! [13-Jun-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: HELLO KATOA!!! [13-Jun-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Markuz**: Hello [13-Jun-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: Hi! [13-Jun-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Welcome :D [13-Jun-23 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: :D [13-Jun-23 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: is this a start of official diplomatic relation between Katoa and Umbra governor? :D [13-Jun-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: xD [13-Jun-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: or do you seek politic assylum because Umbra population may discover your 'very secret fund totaly not from public taxes'? :D [13-Jun-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: in both cases welcome to Katoa [13-Jun-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: It was a long time since we had open slots here [13-Jun-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I find it funny that getting a spot on a planet of the four core systems is one of the hardest accomplishments in the game. [13-Jun-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Welcome! [13-Jun-23 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Markuz**: How it is possible? Plot expires after some time? [13-Jun-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: inactive accounts are removed and that slots are open again [13-Jun-23 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Markuz**: Thanks, good to know [13-Jun-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user50699e7633** left.* [13-Jun-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KZ_Kawasaki** joined.* [13-Jun-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: Wow, I actually got a plot!!! [13-Jun-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: The universe needs more fuel! [13-Jun-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: nice! [13-Jun-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: have a meeting planned for later today with the union rep on the refinery. will negotiate an incresase in production quota's [13-Jun-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: you know how Pioneers can be [13-Jun-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: typically they respond well if COF is involved [13-Jun-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: so thats why you bought that crate of shotguns, James. [13-Jun-23 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: going to offer more Coffee (we grow our own after all) but being able to show at least the invoices for the shotguns will give those corrupt sons of .... something to think about [13-Jun-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: ya strike! I blow off some lead !!! 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[14-Jun-23 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3,000 units hitting LST.CI1 in 45 minutes [14-Jun-23 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will sell right down [14-Jun-23 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: <3 [14-Jun-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***asdsd** left.* [14-Jun-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bubblebeast7763** left.* [14-Jun-23 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Standish** joined.* [14-Jun-23 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shinosaki** left.* [14-Jun-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iliakonec** joined.* [14-Jun-23 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bigbussines** left.* [14-Jun-23 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PyroooOfSuffer** joined.* [14-Jun-23 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StressedLeafeon** joined.* [14-Jun-23 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yolotradecze** left.* [14-Jun-23 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***virens** left.* [14-Jun-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxirian** joined.* [14-Jun-23 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saffron355** left.* [14-Jun-23 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wanstan** joined.* [14-Jun-23 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Markuz**: 100 MCG.CI1 on local market, if u need more let me now [15-Jun-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalbrin** joined.* [15-Jun-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***szzozo** joined.* [15-Jun-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera36c9f3ff0** left.* [15-Jun-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tkw** left.* [15-Jun-23 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TDS723** left.* [15-Jun-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hezakai** joined.* [15-Jun-23 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaDiver** left.* [15-Jun-23 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Migs33** joined.* [15-Jun-23 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wanstan** left.* [15-Jun-23 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lambdafish** joined.* [15-Jun-23 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biscuits** left.* [15-Jun-23 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user82871c6771** left.* [16-Jun-23 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cder** joined.* [16-Jun-23 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userce470c619b** left.* [16-Jun-23 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf569b3ac5** left.* [16-Jun-23 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: does anyone have some WPLs they would be willing to rent out i have some 2300 TCL id like to turn into KV [16-Jun-23 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: pls pm me :) [16-Jun-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fantajack** joined.* [16-Jun-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4b63d226d2** left.* [16-Jun-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alfea** left.* [16-Jun-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warbeast** joined.* [16-Jun-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: 500 SF in the local exchange for 11 each (below cx asking price) [16-Jun-23 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DelosDHarriman** joined.* [16-Jun-23 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DelosDHarriman** left.* [16-Jun-23 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: What will i do with 500 sf? [16-Jun-23 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: A really fast flight to BEN? 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[21-Jun-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hey there [21-Jun-23 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***landenle** joined.* [21-Jun-23 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercfc21ae02f** left.* [21-Jun-23 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PliusInfo** joined.* [21-Jun-23 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***F4BE1** joined.* [21-Jun-23 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **F4BE1**: augh [21-Jun-23 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nottaro** joined.* [21-Jun-23 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **F4BE1**: AHHAHAHAHAAH [21-Jun-23 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nottaro**: huh? [21-Jun-23 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: planning to expand Katoa? 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You can find the detailed description on Katoa channel of UFO Discord [22-Jun-23 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: However, this is my first trial to adjust the taxes. I will check the change in tax income for some weeks and maybe need to make a second trial [23-Jun-23 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ARK54410** left.* [23-Jun-23 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***F4BE1** left.* [23-Jun-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***brmmm** joined.* [23-Jun-23 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***potatocakes** joined.* [23-Jun-23 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***artemonster** joined.* [23-Jun-23 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***K0dr1ck** joined.* [23-Jun-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eminence32** joined.* [23-Jun-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Halldorio** joined.* [23-Jun-23 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***padde** joined.* [23-Jun-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CreativeTurquoiseHamster** joined.* [23-Jun-23 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kagara** joined.* [23-Jun-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karolus2C** joined.* [23-Jun-23 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd4becc1c7c** left.* [23-Jun-23 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnknownBrother** joined.* [23-Jun-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sphearion** joined.* [23-Jun-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalbrin** left.* [23-Jun-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kosala** joined.* [23-Jun-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***szzozo** left.* [23-Jun-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***emk** joined.* [23-Jun-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dmks** joined.* [23-Jun-23 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShrewdViking** joined.* [23-Jun-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Okx** joined.* [23-Jun-23 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***caff** joined.* [23-Jun-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hapins** joined.* [23-Jun-23 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **emk**: Neat! I have just set up some basic STL fuel production, and figured out the next tiny step in my expansion. Now I guess it's a waiting game? [23-Jun-23 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: there is a lot of waiting xD plenty of time to scheme and make more plans though [23-Jun-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***adamhtest** joined.* [23-Jun-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***teddyK** joined.* [23-Jun-23 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Welcome! Lots of waiting and planning. Mostly planning. Free players can try to trade between exchanges (although low capital makes that challenging in early days). Pro (paid) players can take shipping contracts to make some extra profits. Again, welcome, hope you stay a while!! [23-Jun-23 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MadlyMistaken** joined.* [23-Jun-23 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: I'm also just jumping into things. Seems super interesting, and I always welcome any game that gives me a chance to play with spreadsheets :P [23-Jun-23 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera006198fef** left.* [23-Jun-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CreativeTurquoiseHamster**: Oh I am an idiot... placed orders on the cx without storage [23-Jun-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **emk**: @CREATIVETURQUOISEHAMSTER I think the exchange just holds them in escrow until you get a ship over there? [23-Jun-23 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **emk**: Look at your contracts view, or your sidebar. Should be there. [23-Jun-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Emk is right, exchange holds them for you as a storage contract. [23-Jun-23 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: It's a pro tip to buy stuff in bulk when its cheap and just draw from the contract slowly. 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I started out as a free account and even flying every 3rd day to sell at CX was cutting into the margin, but it fit with how often I needed to resupply [24-Jun-23 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: The larger you get the bigger the logistics game becomes [24-Jun-23 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***szzozo** joined.* [24-Jun-23 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capobaar** joined.* [24-Jun-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CreativeTurquoiseHamster**: @emk et al. oh amazing it's there :) Thanks for the tip [24-Jun-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***endragor** joined.* [24-Jun-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neurobot** joined.* [24-Jun-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakobtheonlyone** left.* [24-Jun-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DwightGordon** joined.* [24-Jun-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***endragor** left.* [24-Jun-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kamatori** joined.* [24-Jun-23 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **emk**: @Inforiel I've figured out a production plan which is nicely profitable for now, but it's going to take several days to make it mostly sustainable without _too_ many external inputs. 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[26-Jun-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (also πŸ‘‹ hello from a new player in katoa) [26-Jun-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes.. it is the most basic resource... so it goes into everything one way or another [26-Jun-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: When I started.. 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[28-Jun-23 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: fuel economy? whats that? [28-Jun-23 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: It's when you buy overpriced SF and I get filthy rich by that :P [28-Jun-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SATORO** left.* [28-Jun-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FirefighterSV** joined.* [28-Jun-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OberseeBrot** joined.* [28-Jun-23 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Alkon** joined.* [28-Jun-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PCva85rvkkLBfkKzAUxyg** joined.* [28-Jun-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sariona** left.* [28-Jun-23 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wu-tang** left.* [28-Jun-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere2eee34a6d** left.* [29-Jun-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user061d67d8b0** left.* [29-Jun-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ethdhdh** joined.* [29-Jun-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: Fuel Economy is like being a car salesperson. We are always selling it "below invoice" but we make up for it in volume. :) [29-Jun-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: guys if someone has some free space in a ship going from ben to katoa , could you please take my ad at the station? i'm quite a dire need of dw [29-Jun-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Throw up a DW ad on the local market and I can fill it, got about 250 units on hand [29-Jun-23 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: ad posted [29-Jun-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mayonaiselover4206969** joined.* [29-Jun-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MANHOLE** left.* [29-Jun-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WarWolf** left.* [29-Jun-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***landenle** left.* [30-Jun-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZappBrannigan** joined.* [30-Jun-23 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yrps** left.* [30-Jun-23 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olslacken** left.* [30-Jun-23 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 208 units of TS at 50 CIS per unit at JS-299b local market [30-Jun-23 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zentiler** left.* [30-Jun-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***corusa** joined.* [30-Jun-23 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bull_lord** joined.* [30-Jun-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bull_lord**: the cost of upkeep my workforce is way higher my material consunption cost [30-Jun-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bull_lord**: the situation is the same for you guys there? [30-Jun-23 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Entirely depends on what you are making and how you source the inputs. The game treats vertical integration as being β€œfree” inputs. [01-Jul-23 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: it depends on the production, but yes, the workforce upkeep is an important part of the production cost. That's why it "cheaper" to produce with higher effiency. 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If you have some questions, statements or ideas about my governship, you want to discuss, feel free to contact me. [06-Jul-23 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AndrixKing23** left.* [06-Jul-23 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PCva85rvkkLBfkKzAUxyg** left.* [06-Jul-23 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***snakiestmoon** joined.* [06-Jul-23 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ull433** left.* [06-Jul-23 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noalear** joined.* [07-Jul-23 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sayorsed** left.* [07-Jul-23 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Desroyas** joined.* [07-Jul-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FirefighterSV** left.* [07-Jul-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jimbobshogun** joined.* [07-Jul-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ethdhdh** left.* [07-Jul-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crimson_Viper**: Why do I have to orbit katoa for so long when traveling from benten? [07-Jul-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PiePiepIe** joined.* [07-Jul-23 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: to leave a planet, a ship needs to overcome it's gravity well [07-Jul-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user49de5eba64** left.* [08-Jul-23 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mayonaiselover4206969** left.* [08-Jul-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ringeden** joined.* [08-Jul-23 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** joined.* [08-Jul-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GAZMANN** joined.* [08-Jul-23 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** left.* [08-Jul-23 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wolf747** left.* [08-Jul-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** joined.* [08-Jul-23 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I find it odd that SF is getting more expensive since H is flat and I've got AMM pegged at 100 in the CX for a while. [08-Jul-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I bet people are exporting it to the other CXes. [08-Jul-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Maybe it is the GAL.CI1 price chart driving folks out of the business? [08-Jul-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @ZenWhisper, yes... quite a lot gets exported [08-Jul-23 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Markuz** left.* [08-Jul-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** joined.* [08-Jul-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** left.* [08-Jul-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** joined.* [08-Jul-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: it's understandable tho, whoof us sf producers would want the price to go very low like it was some weeks ago. but thats only my opinion lol [08-Jul-23 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4cc40e7884** left.* [08-Jul-23 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** left.* [08-Jul-23 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** joined.* [08-Jul-23 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** left.* [08-Jul-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** joined.* [08-Jul-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** left.* [09-Jul-23 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MonkeyBalls4** left.* [09-Jul-23 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: All current prices seem high to someone who has played for a while, back when I started - still less than a year ago - CX pricing for SF GAL and H were around 7 - 80 and 60 per unit [09-Jul-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It's nice if it's because of an inflow of players - Less so if it's just some greedy resellers pushing the prices up. 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At day 49 relying on CX for a lot of goods, supplying a few of my own. perhapse it is time to ask about the way of Ev1l lol [09-Jul-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: We do have a discord invite link over on the UFO discord server along with many other corps and you fullfill all the minimum requirements if you are interested [09-Jul-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Not all that high criteria - You need PRO or Basic with minimum age of 30 days [09-Jul-23 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hehe, sounds good so far. I'll ask a few questions over the discord flying solo is fun but interested in exploring the options thx [09-Jul-23 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Both have their charm, definitely [09-Jul-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae449817eb** left.* [09-Jul-23 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qubaz** joined.* [09-Jul-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cherdin** left.* [09-Jul-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cryptlex** joined.* [09-Jul-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QrazyAbc** joined.* [09-Jul-23 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: hello world! [09-Jul-23 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: and howdy right back at ya [09-Jul-23 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **QrazyAbc**: i love potatoes [09-Jul-23 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: guys if someone has some free ships going to katoa from benten , could you please accept my ad at the ben station? its well paid (i think?) 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[11-Jul-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the slow start is what makes this game beautiful :) [11-Jul-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Eh, for some. It is reeeeal slow though. I imagine the slow start is more fun after a reset when everyone is there [11-Jul-23 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, that's true. after a reset, you feel like you're moving at the same pace as everyone else. but when you join now, it can feel daunting if half the universe already has 15 fully built bases running at full-tilt [11-Jul-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: how often do resets happen ? [11-Jul-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: i hope never :( my guys at etherwind,katoa,deimos and the hell planet would be jobless [11-Jul-23 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: only when game breaking changes are released. Think last time was something like 3 years ago. [11-Jul-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good to know. ty [11-Jul-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: it has been mentioned a few times so was starting to think it was a regular thing [11-Jul-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3fbb15cd9a** left.* [11-Jul-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7e22ce0b77** left.* [11-Jul-23 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user01ca7dea96** left.* [12-Jul-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3163ab8131** left.* [12-Jul-23 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: yeah i agree that a slower start is what makes the challenge enjoyable, just frustrating to sit around for days when you want to be productive. 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[13-Jul-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: not spare unfortunately [13-Jul-23 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Director_Cha** joined.* [13-Jul-23 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user05985cd813** left.* [13-Jul-23 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9bcf70ad48** left.* [13-Jul-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amordisk** joined.* [13-Jul-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***drajingo** left.* [13-Jul-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thunder2211** joined.* [13-Jul-23 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polish_Businessman** joined.* [13-Jul-23 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: if you need H just post a buy ad i usualy have some on Katoa :) [13-Jul-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: What's your normal price though? The CXL prices seem a little high for the cost to collect it [13-Jul-23 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: I've been importing it, and while it's not too bad, it definitely adds up :P [13-Jul-23 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ampu** left.* [13-Jul-23 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaxAnimi** joined.* [13-Jul-23 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user90296dcb00** left.* [13-Jul-23 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neccarus** left.* [14-Jul-23 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user085e5a841f** left.* [14-Jul-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: just post ads at what you think is reasonable :) [14-Jul-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KineticEnergy47** left.* [14-Jul-23 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***didimaster111** left.* [14-Jul-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Topzamen** joined.* [14-Jul-23 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***legendaryforever** left.* [14-Jul-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: Anyone have a spare BHP on Katoa? had enough, and then i flew back to base not knowing you can only repair at base... now it needs an extra :D [14-Jul-23 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: I’ve got two. Shoot me a contract or put an ad up. [14-Jul-23 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: sent [14-Jul-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: ty [14-Jul-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: No problem! Glad to help! 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Thanks in advanced! [16-Jul-23 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***angelva821119** left.* [16-Jul-23 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***angelva821119** joined.* [16-Jul-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shad0kin** joined.* [16-Jul-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxim2577** joined.* [16-Jul-23 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maxim2577**: do i actually have to wait 16 hours for this to complet? [16-Jul-23 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yup, the times it gives you are real hours. its slow to start but does pick up [16-Jul-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: ad up for some emergency DW, I'll buy it now for 15k then sell it back to you in a couple days for 13k... [17-Jul-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ech0-9** left.* [17-Jul-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userffbaaaf1ee** left.* [17-Jul-23 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nyhobr** joined.* [17-Jul-23 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Anyone know of the going rate for a HTE (Hyperthrust STL Engine)? [17-Jul-23 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: is there a point in HTE engines right now? When I was testing it FSE was just better [17-Jul-23 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Not really. I was seeing how much it would cost for a pure speed ship. [17-Jul-23 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: could be worth grabbing one in advance of the next patch [17-Jul-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: So does anyone have a price? There is no CX mrket price to go by. [17-Jul-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: GTU's price is ~2.5m for a HTE based on their order sheet [17-Jul-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Hmm, have a link? [17-Jul-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: likely closer to 3m now [17-Jul-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n3IuCfAuEOFcHc18Fw-9CeGJADU01IKZqwsdMdEvmlM/edit#gid=378846437 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n3IuCfAuEOFcHc18Fw-9CeGJADU01IKZqwsdMdEvmlM/edit Customer order list Ship order queue GTU/GSU SHIP WORKS: CUSTOMER'S ORDERS Note: If you have any questions about your order or the information listed here, please contact the person handling your order. Also, please remember that all time estimates are estimates and can change. Effective December 2022, both ship u... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/knk5mYoHDfu29Kv0iAlg-5qMd5Lyjx2DVoiEVCuFZrc/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/AOD9vFpChVtcLMW1d6_oLZ3J-OiOv5JajLxmUOc35iYuxJtlCOdeeUpGAsWF6srgok3bZ2c-mgM62tItC7GkQdiqitSewpCuHYU3nBucN6BJBAIv%3Dw1200-h630-p [17-Jul-23 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx [17-Jul-23 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I know that @Gilith is preparing production of advanced engines because of next patch but I'm not sure at what stage he is. Try sending him DM [17-Jul-23 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx [17-Jul-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KartoffelsVater** left.* [17-Jul-23 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheKingpin** joined.* [17-Jul-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cataclism** joined.* [17-Jul-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maxim2577**: Hi guys, is there anything to do whilst waiting for extractors and refineries? [17-Jul-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: you can run shipping contracts if you can find one worth your time. or work on making your spreadsheets pretty. otherwise, you're pretty limited to day trading and waiting. [17-Jul-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crimson_Viper**: Plot for total economic domination [17-Jul-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: or that^^^ [17-Jul-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: checking out prices on the market and what to make can help plan future operations [17-Jul-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***liquidtoaster** joined.* [17-Jul-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: about HTE - I do plan to produce them in this decade, not because they are easy, but because they are hard ;) [17-Jul-23 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: to give you some perspective - one HSE takes 260 WAL to make [17-Jul-23 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd like to advertise JS-601c's metallurgy CoGC 3 jumps from Benten and 1 jump from Gibson (construction) xD [17-Jul-23 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: Bout to buy a Pro license, anyone have a voucher code? Now sure how those work or if I can help someone out [17-Jul-23 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: Bout = About [17-Jul-23 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: PRO s nice, but I'd recommend waiting till after your second base to consider it [17-Jul-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: @RNGzero most of my engines chain is in Ant space so that won't work - I'll use Deimos + Vulcan [17-Jul-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: its a few bucks, I'm not concerned :) [17-Jul-23 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: Appreciate the insight :) [17-Jul-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: For some it's an easier choice than for others. [17-Jul-23 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: still worth doing it once for local markets or upgrading ships (when you have the capital) [17-Jul-23 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: @Gilith, cannot blame me for trying xD [17-Jul-23 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Also worth remembering that if you buy pro, you go back to basic after it runs out, but a voucher code will revert you to free. [17-Jul-23 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I guess LS-231b for BTS is slightly closer to Ant than Benten [17-Jul-23 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baalat** left.* [17-Jul-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LiquidToaster2** joined.* [17-Jul-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JaBaKirk** left.* [17-Jul-23 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***franklwh96** left.* [17-Jul-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kagen** left.* [18-Jul-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***padde** left.* [18-Jul-23 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: Gunna be a weird ask... Does anyone have 12 PIB (Pineberries)? have a faction contract for it but not enough on the CX and it looks way too high anyways.. [18-Jul-23 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dgajas** left.* [18-Jul-23 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Anyone selling construction prefabs and materials? I'm currently buying on local market. [18-Jul-23 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: CX price [18-Jul-23 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cataclism** left.* [18-Jul-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nighthawk420** left.* [18-Jul-23 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wooki** left.* [18-Jul-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Did everything except BDE and BSE where my inventory is low. [18-Jul-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: guys if someone has some H to spare , it would be very nice if you could fill my little ad :D [18-Jul-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shiba.inu** deleted this message.* [18-Jul-23 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: @knarfaction thank you for the help :D [18-Jul-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaiserZero** deleted this message.* [18-Jul-23 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Thank you @ZenWhisper [18-Jul-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: your welcome :) [18-Jul-23 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Necular_Fox** joined.* [18-Jul-23 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleWheezy** joined.* [18-Jul-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Hello [18-Jul-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: a noob joins the world [18-Jul-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: welcome [18-Jul-23 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Ty [18-Jul-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Fuel Engineer start. Here goes. [18-Jul-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I don't think there's anything left for me to do now? Just wait for a production order to finish and the tutorial contracts I guess? [18-Jul-23 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: make some spreadsheets and plans for the future maybe chat with ppl to get some buisnes connections [18-Jul-23 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BartholomewJamesTheThird** joined.* [18-Jul-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Welcome @Necular_Fox :) Always happy to see fellow fuel engineers. [18-Jul-23 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: provide the fuel and they will be able to come [18-Jul-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Always happy to see a new Fuel Engineer! @Necular_Fox [18-Jul-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: tbh for me ive not done any spread sheets or anything [18-Jul-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Ive mostly just chatted with people. made some deals and here I am 103 days in.. [18-Jul-23 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: producing 6000 SF per day [18-Jul-23 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc50a063141** left.* [18-Jul-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QrazyAbc** left.* [19-Jul-23 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tecnocrazy** left.* [19-Jul-23 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yell** joined.* [19-Jul-23 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shuinan** joined.* [19-Jul-23 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Wow, pretty good. [19-Jul-23 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Not sure where to start with spreadsheets :D Still trying to navigate the interface lol Time to go read some Documenation [19-Jul-23 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Also Hello Fellow Fuel Engineers! [19-Jul-23 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: It's nice to meet you :) [19-Jul-23 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: welcome to that part, its a gas... Katoa is a good place for fuel heads to hang out for sure [19-Jul-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abelink** left.* [20-Jul-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: I've just mostly focused on making a slow, steady profit to start, haha. [20-Jul-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bollain_8153** joined.* [20-Jul-23 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blaze.** joined.* [20-Jul-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morirem** joined.* [20-Jul-23 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnyBon2011** left.* [20-Jul-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fitztris464** left.* [20-Jul-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamoDragon** left.* [21-Jul-23 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hakthyl** joined.* [21-Jul-23 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kindling**: Desperately need 5 TRU. Ad posted for well above CX prices. [21-Jul-23 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kindling**: Thanks @bojidar008! [21-Jul-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SecondPenguin7** joined.* [21-Jul-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Makes sense. Although I've already miss understood how the production units work. Making a spread sheet seems like a really good idea XD [21-Jul-23 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well this is a game of intergalactic spreadheeting [21-Jul-23 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***K4** joined.* [22-Jul-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: @Nuclear_Fox, happy to help out with the spreadsheet. Happy to just sell you the one I've got built too (for CIS of course) [22-Jul-23 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: @p_rplerain If you don't mind me hitting you up about that sometime, I haven't really focused on optimization/long-term planning yet. [22-Jul-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erzrig** joined.* [22-Jul-23 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: @p_rplerain Looking for an opportunity to make some extra cash (CIS) Lol [22-Jul-23 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Almost entirely spent it all as of right now ;-; I'm interested but Making a spreadsheet feels like it'll be a good challenge. [22-Jul-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: tbh I was thinking a Graph DB might be an interesting option instead. Try and learn its query language for once. [22-Jul-23 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I think making the spread sheet will be an interesting challenge so I might not take you up on the offer of buying your spreadsheet. [22-Jul-23 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Not sure how to model investments or "The things I made myself" just yet lol [22-Jul-23 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Erzrig**: How do I bring up the construction window again? [22-Jul-23 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Erzrig**: Nvm I am an idiot [22-Jul-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sd1_2** joined.* [22-Jul-23 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: @Necular_Fox lol yes. My balance usually hangs around 0. Trying to invest everything I make into building. Yeah the spreadsheets are nice, though there are a few features I wish they had/I wish I was more well versed in. Great way to just keep your ducks in line [22-Jul-23 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: @caff, absolutely. Just DM me, happy to help. I keep everything in Google Sheets right now so it's super easy to share. :) [22-Jul-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Question. How does my company even get a rating of "Pending?" [22-Jul-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: it just means that you are currently unrated [22-Jul-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: at 4 days old, you are not being judged yet [22-Jul-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Ah, I see [22-Jul-23 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user67326563dc** left.* [22-Jul-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***suburbanaxe** joined.* [22-Jul-23 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeaPear** left.* [22-Jul-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lonelybear** joined.* [22-Jul-23 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Topzamen** left.* [22-Jul-23 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***destroyer1648x** joined.* [22-Jul-23 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***angelva821119** deleted this message.* [22-Jul-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **angelva821119**: 400ton / 400m3 space available from Benton station to Katoa, soon leave in 24hrs, pls let me know if you need [23-Jul-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sp1cy_overlordPC** left.* [23-Jul-23 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FrankVice** left.* [23-Jul-23 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polski_Biznesmen_Pl** joined.* [23-Jul-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akaguan** joined.* [23-Jul-23 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garlic_Bred** left.* [23-Jul-23 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Horkupine** joined.* [23-Jul-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koorapika** joined.* [23-Jul-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***X1UP_DanzzX** left.* [24-Jul-23 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d9bc197fb** left.* [24-Jul-23 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: Hey boys and girls. I am in a lil delemma. I have 2 refinery, 2 extractors and 3 collectors. So a decent thing going in my opinion [24-Jul-23 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: well i have 200k credits now and try to think of what to do with it. Should i just keep expanding my SF fuel? [24-Jul-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: or should i go the self-sustaining route? [24-Jul-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: god question. Lots of fuel starters may not want to go deep into fuel [24-Jul-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: good* [24-Jul-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: since hauling H for multiple REFs can get quite intensive. [24-Jul-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: could place 1 BMP and see how it goes processing raw materials off the CX into finished goods [24-Jul-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hmm thats actually a cool idea thou - is it viable to make money just with refining goods? [24-Jul-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: may start considering a second base that can make resource for fuel or other industries you want to get into [24-Jul-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: well i think until i struggle with hauling hydrogen i could go to 6 refinerys. i usually have 20 days in stocks [24-Jul-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: sounds like its not unusual to spread i guess? [24-Jul-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: well, Umbra has a small deposite of H... but you'd need a gas giant for more REFs [24-Jul-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: most players get into multiple industries [24-Jul-23 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ah ok - thx for the insights mate [24-Jul-23 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it not unusual at all. IF you want to take advantage of Katoa's manufacturing CoGC... consider some agriculture for RCO [24-Jul-23 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: and sell it on the planet? [24-Jul-23 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: produce RCO -> BMP -> OVEs or other items [24-Jul-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Weavers (WPLs) are also manufactoring buildings [24-Jul-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: aaah alright [24-Jul-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: great for RCO -> COT [24-Jul-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: or PG -> NL [24-Jul-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I'd encourage looking at the pioneer/settler buildings and seeign what can work [24-Jul-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: as well as what can be put together when accountign for another base [24-Jul-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can easily start one for with your budget [24-Jul-23 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: This is my Katoa base (for example): https://i.imgur.com/A2h21gY.jpg {Embed} https://imgur.com/A2h21gY https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pl1vw-mbalnq_vM3MHTfqcPk7SP_qh1pTpH1IBbWkQ0/https/i.imgur.com/A2h21gY.jpg [24-Jul-23 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: oh damn thx for that! really helps seeing other peoples base. Help a lot to put my way of playing into perspective [24-Jul-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: like i had no idea if producing everything for SF fuel myself would already be too much [24-Jul-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: my base would be considered "messy" by many other playes [24-Jul-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: but seeing that really gets me comfortable to try other stuff [24-Jul-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: well.. my REF uses the NAB recipes because EXTs take up too much room [24-Jul-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah lol i noticed that too when i thought about building my 3rd one [24-Jul-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: likely going to move the to another base and replace it with x2 more BMPs [24-Jul-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: will keep the COLs for AMM tho [24-Jul-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: decent AMM deposits on MCG planets is quite rare [24-Jul-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: otherwise.. would need a gas giant for decent amounts [24-Jul-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah also you make more money producing AMM and selling it for H then the other way around [24-Jul-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends on the market... sometimes [24-Jul-23 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: some things I'd rather secure a source than relay on the CX price [24-Jul-23 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: true - my 3 collectors make like 40 credits an hour more with that (averagee since Mai).... which is pretty bad lol [24-Jul-23 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: wait no - no wait 40 a day per collector [24-Jul-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: lol pathetic... [24-Jul-23 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: collecting AMM on Katoa costs ~91/u [24-Jul-23 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: less if your making your own consumables [24-Jul-23 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: not a huge profit... but not having to transport it and ensureing a supply can make it more worthwihile [24-Jul-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah my ships are also getting pretty full. I wonder how do i get more? I guess you buy them somewhere? [24-Jul-23 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: (with PRO) you can make a project for one at a shipyard and supply the parts to make it (like a lego set) [24-Jul-23 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: transport capacity can become quite a liliting factor especially with multiple bases [24-Jul-23 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: with 2 starting ships... players can operate ~4-6 bases [24-Jul-23 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends on what those bases do... since industries (and individual setups) can use more/less [24-Jul-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: fuel, metallurgy, and raw goods tend to require the most transport capacity [24-Jul-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tsayu** joined.* [24-Jul-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***T.S** left.* [24-Jul-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crimson_Viper**: So if you're still on free you don't have access to new ships? [24-Jul-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cusonet** joined.* [24-Jul-23 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Yupp [24-Jul-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Free and Basic license can only ever use 2 ships at the same time - PRO is needed to buy and fly more at one time. [24-Jul-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: If you own more ships you'll still keep them if you go to Basic, but you won't be able to lift off with more than 2 at the same time [24-Jul-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Well-paying shipping ads on Biogenesis β†’ Asbestos and a couple on Asbestos β†’ BEN (or some cheap LST) for anyone with an available ship... [24-Jul-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crimson_Viper**: I need to read up more on ship mechanics. So free users can't buy new ships at all? Can existing ships be upgraded? [24-Jul-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***svrem** joined.* [24-Jul-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MONEYMAKER_2.0** left.* [24-Jul-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: PRO is needed to use the shipyard at all [24-Jul-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: For upgrades or builds [24-Jul-23 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: thank you so much for the information RNGzero. I actually copy pasted it all in a word document for myself haha [24-Jul-23 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i hope to be a help to you some day :P [24-Jul-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: just pay it forward to other new players xD [24-Jul-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: just one last question: with the 2 starterships and the one from PRO what are other ways to get ships? [24-Jul-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: you can make as many as you want (or afford) with PRO [24-Jul-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: oooh ok i see - what are the costs round about? [24-Jul-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: probably several milions i guess [24-Jul-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: cheapest ship is a glass STL only design that costs ~700k [24-Jul-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: oh damn there are several? wow i had one question and now i have like 10 haha [24-Jul-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: check out BLU [24-Jul-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the blueprint menu lets you design and test ships [24-Jul-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: whaaat [24-Jul-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: oh damn i thought i was getting the hang of this [24-Jul-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: the upcoming patch is changing several parts for the better [24-Jul-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: which is on Wednesday (or late Tuesday in the states) [24-Jul-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: since the devs are in Germany [24-Jul-23 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0da31153c9** left.* [24-Jul-23 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DXRK** joined.* [24-Jul-23 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: If anyone can spare 25 PWO, will pay 10k for it (is that fair?) I am a basic account so cannot create a LM ad, will fire my logistics manager for forgetting it [24-Jul-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: Best I could do is buy them and fly them to Katoa [24-Jul-23 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: Yea I can do that too, I would run out before the ship gets back though, [24-Jul-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: Sorry :( [24-Jul-23 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: no worries :) appreciated! im just a dummy :) [24-Jul-23 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shad0kin**: Happens to the best ;) [25-Jul-23 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd5a008606a** left.* [25-Jul-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfd73a1fd53** left.* [25-Jul-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seidal** joined.* [25-Jul-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cecilbrown5** left.* [25-Jul-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: @lacisumutama, I can spare 10 for now, will that do? [25-Jul-23 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: or i can get you your 20 by tomorrow morning? [25-Jul-23 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: I can fill the PWO, contract sent [25-Jul-23 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yamanskinny** joined.* [25-Jul-23 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yamanskinny**: to post ads on the local market, do i need a pro license? [25-Jul-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes [25-Jul-23 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: accepted thank you [25-Jul-23 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sanjic** joined.* [25-Jul-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Oh dear it seems I have messed up lamo. [25-Jul-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I actually have (almost) 0 cash and can't do anything until my fuel sells at the exchange. [25-Jul-23 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Sooo, if anyone wants some 9 cheap units of water I have for some reason. I might have something for you lol. [25-Jul-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Ah, I am saved [25-Jul-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnluckyPhil** joined.* [25-Jul-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: 450t/200m3 available Moria station to Katoa, anybody need a haul? [25-Jul-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: benten station**** sorry [25-Jul-23 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I don't think it makes sense for me sadly. But I love the offer. [25-Jul-23 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: That said, i'm sending a shippment to benten station too in about 4 days from now. There will be some room then too :) [25-Jul-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: ~300t/350m3 I guess? Unless You're willing to bring a shipment back from the station p_rplerain [25-Jul-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: shipping contract from Benten station to Katoa 1500 up [25-Jul-23 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ashlyn** joined.* [26-Jul-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Anyone need a small loan? lol. I just want to try one out. [26-Jul-23 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: ditto. can loan up to 40k right now. Not much but honest work lol [27-Jul-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9bfe917fc9** left.* [27-Jul-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: A small loan of a million dollars [27-Jul-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crimson_Viper**: Can I buy/sell at the CX without a ship present or warehouse? [27-Jul-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: yes you can buy, but without warehouse the stuff you bought will go into a contract. while it's a contract, you can't list it for sale - you'd need a warehouse for that [27-Jul-23 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: or a ship. and yes, you can sell directly from a ship, without a warehouse [27-Jul-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Crimson_Viper**: Awesome, thanks [27-Jul-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleWheezy** left.* [27-Jul-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yell** left.* [27-Jul-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eedori** joined.* [27-Jul-23 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WWJ1859** joined.* [27-Jul-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user86b433efba** left.* [27-Jul-23 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Everyone wants to try out the new features :D [27-Jul-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: J [27-Jul-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Happy, to be a guinea pig. [27-Jul-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andreolinski** joined.* [27-Jul-23 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZackalJackal** joined.* [27-Jul-23 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahzriefyrewalker** joined.* [28-Jul-23 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Assorti** joined.* [28-Jul-23 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Anyone got a spare PPA (Protein Paste) I need 51 I already posted in Katoa LM thanks! [28-Jul-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExDeath** left.* [28-Jul-23 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***haysdabrainer** joined.* [28-Jul-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6f45af908e** left.* [28-Jul-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrunkRussianBear** joined.* [28-Jul-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrunkRussianBear**: is there anywhere I can make money with transport contracts? I think it was mentioned in a tutorial but I've forgotten [28-Jul-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrunkRussianBear**: got a ship just siting idle [28-Jul-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: check out the local markets around where you are based [28-Jul-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: just be carefull to take into account how much fuel the trips are going to use otherwise it is a great way to loose money [28-Jul-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tsintil** joined.* [28-Jul-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cyberfarmer02** joined.* [28-Jul-23 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Anyone got some spare construction mats and prefabs? I posted in LM I really need it thanks! [28-Jul-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: haven't got any bfabs though :( [28-Jul-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: BFabs sent. I usually have many BFabs and LFabs just sitting around. [28-Jul-23 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***upuauta** joined.* [28-Jul-23 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Thanks @ZenWhisper ill contact u if i need more :D [28-Jul-23 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **upuauta**: Good morning, day or evening :) [28-Jul-23 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kittenbeard** joined.* [28-Jul-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***animescientist** joined.* [28-Jul-23 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draxzter** joined.* [28-Jul-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Captain_T** joined.* [29-Jul-23 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xephrax** joined.* [29-Jul-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sir.MavO** joined.* [29-Jul-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: Howdy! 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[30-Jul-23 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wafenauser** joined.* [30-Jul-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadow_959** left.* [30-Jul-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TsubameDono** left.* [30-Jul-23 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user074ca16258** left.* [30-Jul-23 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M.S.** joined.* [30-Jul-23 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: Couple decent-paying shipments from Biogenesis β†’ Asbestos. Ping me if you pick them up and want me to send you contracts for shipments from Asbestos β†’ BEN (5k CIS per 500 t/m3)... [30-Jul-23 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CravenMonki** left.* [31-Jul-23 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***K4** left.* [31-Jul-23 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sd1_2** left.* [31-Jul-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Anybody got an excess Galerite Rock? I need 322 pcs [31-Jul-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neerio** joined.* [31-Jul-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Encheat** joined.* [31-Jul-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Sadly not, I only have 1 spare XD [31-Jul-23 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have 200 gal. Send me cont [31-Jul-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: I can spare 70 Gal. send cont if you can use em [31-Jul-23 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: I have the the remaining 52 Units, send me a contract [31-Jul-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polski_Biznesmen_Pl** left.* [31-Jul-23 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1ad325174d** left.* [31-Jul-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jamaroverkill** joined.* [31-Jul-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zean** left.* [31-Jul-23 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf4b5bcb7e2** left.* [31-Jul-23 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polux** joined.* [31-Jul-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***froggo** joined.* [31-Jul-23 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Thanks guys! I already sent you contracts! [31-Jul-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Horkupine** left.* [31-Jul-23 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***potatovonsnich** joined.* [31-Jul-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Omegapl** joined.* [31-Jul-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Starwhip** left.* [01-Aug-23 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jojo_hater** joined.* [01-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user35799a5f37** left.* [01-Aug-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap TS available at JS-299b LM - 50 CIS per unit. I have more if there is interest. [01-Aug-23 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: is TS refining worth it? [01-Aug-23 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: not really... depends on the price of TS and price of HE3 [01-Aug-23 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: with TS @ 50/u... each HE3 from REFs would be ~200/u (consumables from CX) [01-Aug-23 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if HE3 cost more... than sure [01-Aug-23 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: I am assuming the smelting recipe to SI is also small to no margin? [01-Aug-23 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: depends what recipe you are using [01-Aug-23 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: SI prices has risen a lot from once being dirt-cheap [01-Aug-23 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: But out of the recipes the slowest one has the best profit margin, presuming you're not paying super-much for your consumables [01-Aug-23 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: There's a lot of factors that vary from each individual which makes it hard to guarantee a product is profitable for you just because it's profitable for me, etc [01-Aug-23 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: You'll need to crunch the numbers on your own [01-Aug-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: I know this is short notice, but in about 90 minutes I'll be flying back from Benten Station to Katoa with some spare room (400t/300m3). If you need anything delivered, post an ad. Price is half my fuel costs (700 CIS) [01-Aug-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeBo** joined.* [01-Aug-23 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SkyCuz** joined.* [01-Aug-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***svrem** left.* [01-Aug-23 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***O_JAVEL** joined.* [01-Aug-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DXRK** left.* [01-Aug-23 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SkyCuz**: hello guys [01-Aug-23 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SkyCuz**: is it punishable to some group of people forcefully down the price of some materials ? [01-Aug-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SkyCuz**: I mean like forcing to sell BSE at 10 bucks per unit or STL at 1000 bucks [01-Aug-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SkyCuz**: I don't know if the market can be influenced this way easily or not [01-Aug-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SkyCuz**: like a groupe of 30-50 people trying to do this on a certain consummable [01-Aug-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Are you asking if the devs would punish acting like a cartel? I don’t think they would intervene. [01-Aug-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Would other players band up and try to retaliate by doing things like blacklisting you on local markets? [01-Aug-23 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: If you did something outrageous, probably. If you just worked the market, we’d probably salute you. [01-Aug-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in practice, you can't really sell BSE for $10, because there are so many outstanding buy orders at $1K+ [01-Aug-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Yeah, I don’t think you could do it on a basic product. Too much volume. It would have to be a more niche product. [01-Aug-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: But I have seen rich players buy up all the H2O and relist it at MM [01-Aug-23 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: does that work? i figure there's enough H2O producers that it wouldn't take long for the price to fall below MM prices [01-Aug-23 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***simdimdim** joined.* [01-Aug-23 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Oh yeah, it doesn’t work for very long. But it can be rather disruptive. Especially for newish players who are counting on buying that commodity on the exchange. [01-Aug-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: if anyone needs something shipped from Umbra to BEN, you can send contract my way. [01-Aug-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: I will have 500/500 free, and will be flying out in 13h [01-Aug-23 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rango_tf2** joined.* [02-Aug-23 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cusonet** left.* [02-Aug-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyanko** joined.* [02-Aug-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yamanskinny** left.* [02-Aug-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eninty395** joined.* [02-Aug-23 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Shipping available from Benten Station to Katoa. [02-Aug-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I do wish there was something for shipping, Eg. you can advertise space on a ship. Like how there's both "buy" and "sell" orders. [02-Aug-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: posted in BEN LM [02-Aug-23 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rango_tf2** left.* [02-Aug-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rango_tf2** joined.* [02-Aug-23 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mirax**: You can indeed create shipping ads, though only at Local markets [02-Aug-23 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mirax**: Which need PRO to post on, or at least BASIC to accept those ads [02-Aug-23 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mfgaming** joined.* [02-Aug-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whitecatosu** left.* [02-Aug-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ankou29000** joined.* [02-Aug-23 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: I've wished for the same, @Necular_Fox. posting in here everytime you're about to leave for somewhere just feels too spammy [02-Aug-23 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: true, There's a lot of little QoL things I'd love to be added. [02-Aug-23 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I think it'd really improve what players can do in the economy too, Encourage shipment companies or traders doing regular shipments between places. [02-Aug-23 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: But I'm not the game dev LOL. [02-Aug-23 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: it would be also nice to be able to aggregate multiple commodity types into one shipment order hah [02-Aug-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: True, You could make custom contracts but again, you'd need to advertise it by posting in chat or something [02-Aug-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: iirc [02-Aug-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceFace333** joined.* [02-Aug-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: yep [02-Aug-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: or maybe provide some way for ppl to be notified about new contracts, you could select what planets you usually do shipping for and just get a nice list of recent contracts or something [02-Aug-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: I guess multiple ways for QOL like you said [02-Aug-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Yeah, that's true. Just gotta check or let people know. I thought I saw something about the devs wanting to add player made CXs, stations and allow for atmosphic only ships or something... So I'm looking forward to the depth that'll add. [02-Aug-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (i wonder if it makes sense to start a new group chat for these types of shipping announcements, as to not spam this channel. obviously in-game support would be ideal, but in the meantime...) [02-Aug-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I'm using PMMG/Prun to add some QoL stuff. QoL can be a lot of small things tho. [02-Aug-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: @eminence32 Maybe. It could work as some kind of solution to it. [02-Aug-23 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Well, we can try and see I hope this works: COMG shipads [02-Aug-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5d578afa7e** left.* [02-Aug-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that just gives me a "Start Conversation" button. and when i click it, i'm put into an empty channel with just myself [02-Aug-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Oof, that make sense. I added you to the channel then. Should be good now? [02-Aug-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Well, If anyone wants to join that chat then just ask. I think anyone who ever gets added to the chat can add others. :) [02-Aug-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: bummer that the name of the group is just {NAME} [02-Aug-23 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Yeah not sure what's up with that [02-Aug-23 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a bug, i think [02-Aug-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Captain_T**: hey ive got a contract for a planetary survey mission, how does one go about that? do i just need to visit that planet, or is there some sort of special equipment i need? [02-Aug-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: basically, land on the planet and select fulfill on the contract [02-Aug-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: before taking, it helps to check the costs to perform the survey (fuel both ways, repairs, etc.) [02-Aug-23 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cybrochara** left.* [02-Aug-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Captain_T**: good to know, thanks [02-Aug-23 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***05Teko** joined.* [02-Aug-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lonelybear** left.* [02-Aug-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have up to 28,000 MCG for sale locally at 20/u and 160,000 PE for sale at 6 [02-Aug-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If anybody would like the entire amount, I'll fill the first cotracts come through [02-Aug-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dont send me contracts for partial amounts, but can msg me [02-Aug-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it'll eventually get dumped in the CX if u cbf doing conts :) [02-Aug-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tark** left.* [03-Aug-23 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: on the topic of shipping contracts... if anyone has one for Moria Station to Benten Station... Contact me, 497t/497m3 available, leaving tomorrow [03-Aug-23 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc8c79da2dd** left.* [03-Aug-23 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tets86** left.* [03-Aug-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sanjic** left.* [03-Aug-23 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tsayu** left.* [03-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pythonicable** joined.* [03-Aug-23 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pythonicable** left.* [03-Aug-23 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SPQRcorp** left.* [03-Aug-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoggyDog** left.* [03-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: hi everyone [03-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: is there any CIS corps recruiting? [03-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: and are non pro licensees allowed to accept contracts ? [03-Aug-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mirax**: 1) best bet, UFO discord to find potentially recruiting corps [03-Aug-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mirax**: 2) BASICS (after pro runs out) yes, FREE (never got pro) no [03-Aug-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: oh so even if i were to get pro and it expires i can still accept contracts? [03-Aug-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: would you mind directing me to UFO discord? 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[07-Aug-23 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Hi, look on the list of buildings you have in your base. [07-Aug-23 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: they probably need repair [07-Aug-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Do you have all the basic and luxury comsumables? [07-Aug-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: holyx shit thats expßensive [07-Aug-23 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: lol i dont think i even made that much money with them yet [07-Aug-23 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: its good to repair after +-90 days [07-Aug-23 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: they are like 55-39% durability left [07-Aug-23 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: fck [07-Aug-23 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah no way i have that. i guess thats my end here [07-Aug-23 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: I think you should e fie [07-Aug-23 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: be fine.. structures can only get soo low until they stop decyig [07-Aug-23 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: that can buy you extra time [07-Aug-23 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Hey RNG! ^w^ [07-Aug-23 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Hey there [07-Aug-23 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Hows it goin? [07-Aug-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: just curious is it worth making a warehouse base? [07-Aug-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: was quite busy over the weekend that I'm catching up on some deliveries [07-Aug-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: ALRIGHT! [07-Aug-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: What do you sell again? [07-Aug-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: as for warehouses, they are generally quite worthwhile if you are heavily using a planet [07-Aug-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: 1-2 is typical.. but an entire base of warehouses is exessive [07-Aug-23 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: I mean I have 499/1/500 cant really have anymore space [07-Aug-23 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: to make a warehouse [07-Aug-23 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: The only thing I do a lot of is HMSs [07-Aug-23 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: otherwise, a small batches of a lot of other goods [07-Aug-23 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: alright [07-Aug-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: How do i make a new base on katoa? [07-Aug-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: moved my 1 REF from Katoa to pollute on Milliways because I wanted extra space here xD [07-Aug-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: SDASDA [07-Aug-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: well rn I might make a base specificly made for storage of resources and making [07-Aug-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: players can only have 1 base per planet.. but that base can be expanded twice for up to 1k space with permits [07-Aug-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: how to expand? [07-Aug-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: left side bar -> BS [07-Aug-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: click add [07-Aug-23 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: WOOHOO [07-Aug-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: however each permit used that way onlt adds 250 space [07-Aug-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: alright.. thats all [07-Aug-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: I meannn good enough [07-Aug-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: glad to help! 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[08-Aug-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So I can keep PE.CI1 well supplied and move that price down :) [09-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user63c0ad0728** left.* [09-Aug-23 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @neke I have 6k H on CB282d for sale [09-Aug-23 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @neke I have around 100k H lying on BEN and ANT ... write me in discord ;) [09-Aug-23 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if fusion reaction spontaneously starts at Ben CX and we get a new start, we'll know who to blame :D [09-Aug-23 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: star* [09-Aug-23 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: are faction contracts once a day thing? [09-Aug-23 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: No, I think they get refreshed/sent once every 2 days [09-Aug-23 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: oh, so even rarer than I thought, tsk [09-Aug-23 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: my experience shows that it is every 3 days [09-Aug-23 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I appear to have been able to complete 10 contracts since I started the company, assuming first two are always the same that's 1 per day, maybe it's different with different standings or factions? [09-Aug-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: correction, accept one every day* (I tended to complete at least half of them in pairs) [09-Aug-23 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Themuteneko** left.* [09-Aug-23 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: There is a batch when you first start where you get the next contract as soon as you finish the prior one. Once you finish those, you go onto a clock based model that I think is every 24 hours to start. [09-Aug-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: They slowly slow down, I think on 30 day anniversaries of your start date. I am currently at one every 48 hours. [09-Aug-23 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duil** joined.* [09-Aug-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I see. [09-Aug-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: Are they also related to the Rating thing? [09-Aug-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeBo** left.* [09-Aug-23 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DarkyRocks**: hey all..why we dont get scientists..they even go down? [09-Aug-23 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***karr1981** left.* [09-Aug-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: probably related to the population redistribution thing that happened, not sure what are the mechanics behind that [09-Aug-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Do the population infrastructure buildings influence the types of population that move here? 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Is there anything that could be bought/sold from local market to reduce flights needed? [11-Aug-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: The question is kinda an odd way of asking "what makes sense to produce here?" [11-Aug-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: try posting ads on local market. If price will be decent I'm sure that someone will sell you prefabs [11-Aug-23 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Katoa has bonus to manufacturing so BMP works here well [11-Aug-23 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: It was more of thinking if I can use someones resources/wrought products to make wrought products/end products locally. [11-Aug-23 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Or maybe people do the whole chain themselves. [11-Aug-23 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: BMP, hm ok. [11-Aug-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's really hard to make everything in house, since for every production you will need not only materials but also consumables, prefabs for repairs, fuel for ships to move goods ect [11-Aug-23 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: another option is WPL and COT production [11-Aug-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: I see, well, I got something to think about here. [11-Aug-23 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and to be honest there are a lot goods answers to your question. Ask 3 persons and you will get 4 answers :) [11-Aug-23 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Well maybe PWO/OVE from those COT, just have to see if it makes sense to make it. How do I know which planet has which bonus? [11-Aug-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: buffer COGCPEX UV-351a for Katoa [11-Aug-23 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***froggo** left.* [11-Aug-23 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Hmm, okay. Yeah I think I can do some consumables. Maybe I can also sell them directly here on the local market at less than CX, depending on how many trips I have to make to get resources. [11-Aug-23 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***haysdabrainer** left.* [11-Aug-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***p_rplerain** deleted this message.* [11-Aug-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: @LacisumUtama whats up! [11-Aug-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: πŸ‘€πŸ‘€πŸ‘€ [11-Aug-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nitroad_Shadow** joined.* [11-Aug-23 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ala98412** left.* [11-Aug-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaidLeber** left.* [11-Aug-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap TS at JS-200b - 50 CIS per unit. [11-Aug-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Correction: JS-299b LM. [11-Aug-23 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hhhzzzz** left.* [11-Aug-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***holyds** left.* [12-Aug-23 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AustinG** left.* [12-Aug-23 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crusade** joined.* [12-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Din-mamma** joined.* [12-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaiserZero** deleted this message.* [12-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaiserZero** deleted this message.* [12-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Anyone got spare KOM? I need only like 24 pcs already posted in LM. Thanks! [12-Aug-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jovianson** left.* [12-Aug-23 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jovianson** joined.* [12-Aug-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Does anyone have 65 units of PPA to spare? Can pay 200/unit [12-Aug-23 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davik** joined.* [12-Aug-23 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***H4ckerxx44** joined.* [12-Aug-23 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PliusInfo** left.* [12-Aug-23 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duil** left.* [12-Aug-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Philbertt** joined.* [12-Aug-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MimisXO** joined.* [12-Aug-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aeroastro3** left.* [12-Aug-23 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Euphoric-Lobster** joined.* [13-Aug-23 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Isnogud88** joined.* [13-Aug-23 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duil** joined.* [13-Aug-23 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Isnogud88** left.* [13-Aug-23 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Are there any people needing a loan? I was a lot of liquidity i don't need atm [13-Aug-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thiccelmo** joined.* [13-Aug-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Tempting lol [13-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pure_Ownage** left.* [13-Aug-23 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Faded_AI_JR** left.* [13-Aug-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user65bb0fe14a** left.* [13-Aug-23 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM Buy PG @ 50/u 150% CX price. 10x100 contracts. [13-Aug-23 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Onhix973** joined.* [14-Aug-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yu99** joined.* [14-Aug-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hountez** joined.* [14-Aug-23 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DonAlvido** joined.* [14-Aug-23 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gamerjan100** joined.* [14-Aug-23 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProtoN_ex** joined.* [14-Aug-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jay2smooth** left.* [14-Aug-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: For newer players that are willing to take a risk that the deal will still be there when they get there: BOS (command CXM BOS) for BEN->MOR looks attractive. I'd do it but my ships are all doing other things. A current potential profit of 800/u is enough for me to drop a note here. [14-Aug-23 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: looks like someone jumped on it. Good luck! [14-Aug-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_J** joined.* [14-Aug-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackhole1256** joined.* [14-Aug-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***seletskiy** joined.* [15-Aug-23 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lethalcroak** joined.* [15-Aug-23 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: a couple of lucrative shipping contracts are up on CB-282d: lm cb-282d [15-Aug-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: 2 free BHP on LM [15-Aug-23 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb52b3e23f2** left.* [15-Aug-23 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Benvictus** joined.* [15-Aug-23 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***krustanow** left.* [15-Aug-23 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: If anybody is heading from BEN to Katoa and has some space would appreciate helping with a couple of shipments on the LM [15-Aug-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Got them πŸ˜‰ [15-Aug-23 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DEDMIN** joined.* [15-Aug-23 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***otakugeek** joined.* [15-Aug-23 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **p_rplerain**: Thanks! [15-Aug-23 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***displayname21** joined.* [15-Aug-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cosmus** joined.* [16-Aug-23 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rokiyam** joined.* [16-Aug-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CarbonCentric.Co** left.* [16-Aug-23 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Katoa LM seems to be one of the busiest ones out there :D nice [16-Aug-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM Buy 100 TCL @ 250k (2500/u). Total profit if you buy and ship from CX: 11k-shipping cost. Again my ships are all doing more important things and my new ship build has a week to go. [16-Aug-23 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: With the exception of my courier ship which I misclicked and is now doing a leisurely two days from Umbra to Ben station... [16-Aug-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Since it is only 9t/10m3 I probably should just buy it ad put it up for shipping since that would be 1100/m3. If no one picks it up in a few hours, I'll do just that. [16-Aug-23 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Nah, I'll just do it now... [16-Aug-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Ok took down the buy ad and put up a shiiping ad in Katoa LM: The most over-priced 10m3 I've ever seen: 11k CIS for a one day delivery. LOL that'll teach me to not misclick my ships. [16-Aug-23 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Still there three minutes later. I hope a new player gets this one, could make their month. [16-Aug-23 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: I gotchu @ZenWhisper even it looks like heavy and underpaid :P [16-Aug-23 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Thanks for making room for such a shabby haul. [16-Aug-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Your stuff will have a first class seat in the ships cockpit :P [16-Aug-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: @ZenWhisper release the last contract the boat is gonna leave :P [16-Aug-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @ZenWhisper how urgent do you need that TCL i could give you 100 right now and buy the 100 you have on the way back [16-Aug-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Released [16-Aug-23 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Not all that urgent. I have my weaving plant make Nylon and Cotton while I wait and I've got 29 Kevlar on hand so I'm fine but annoyed at myself. [16-Aug-23 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: ik i would probably panick if i where down to only 29 KV XD [16-Aug-23 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I'm just low volume ADE queues and occasional RDE with the KV, so it's not a big deal. I just get annoyed when a mature logicistics set-up falls apart while I'm busy doing a first-time build of HTE and HYR (where I'm building everything upstream but the ACS and RCS) [16-Aug-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: my main buisnes is construction so i go through quite a bit of KV and NL but i know the feeling everytime i find one of my bases in disrepair even though i have the prefabs in stock [16-Aug-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***K0dr1ck** left.* [16-Aug-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R.D.Olivaw** left.* [16-Aug-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greyhe** joined.* [16-Aug-23 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Test1234567890-** left.* [16-Aug-23 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***warpoprock** left.* [17-Aug-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aeristox** left.* [17-Aug-23 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pepino69** left.* [17-Aug-23 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user749277562d** left.* [17-Aug-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if anyone needs anything shipped from Benton Station to Katoa, put up an LM ad [17-Aug-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: You have full ship worth of room? [17-Aug-23 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: If not, how much room do you have and I'll put an ad up [17-Aug-23 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigFat_daddy** left.* [17-Aug-23 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Squash** joined.* [17-Aug-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's not quite a full ship @ConstellationExpress but i can be flexible. I currently have room for 490t / 400m3 [17-Aug-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (departing in about 4 hours) [17-Aug-23 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'll throw up a LM ad on Katoa for 399m3 [17-Aug-23 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Done [17-Aug-23 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Should auto provision and I'll hop on in morning before work to pay [17-Aug-23 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userec048546ba** left.* [18-Aug-23 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: why are LSE.CI1 through the roof right now? [18-Aug-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: 5,5k is normal price for LSE on cx [18-Aug-23 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***beanl0rd** left.* [18-Aug-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elon-Musk** joined.* [18-Aug-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Greetings Mr. Musk! [18-Aug-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: On a 90 day period CXPC it is actually pretty low compared to what it was. [18-Aug-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCookiePilot** joined.* [18-Aug-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: is anyone producing RCO here? [18-Aug-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: the silence is deafening xD [18-Aug-23 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this is very last minute, but if you need anything shipped from Benton Station back to Katoa, put up an Ad. 460t/390m3 -- leaving in 45 minutes [19-Aug-23 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDOG787** left.* [19-Aug-23 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dmks** left.* [19-Aug-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i too am now wondering about RCO 😁 [19-Aug-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nitroad_Shadow** left.* [19-Aug-23 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: I got a small production of RCO going. [19-Aug-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user79c85b83c8** left.* [19-Aug-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***S3LFA** joined.* [19-Aug-23 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gurbe** joined.* [19-Aug-23 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gurbe**: i will pay someone 5000 euro to play the game for me [19-Aug-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sparrow9696** joined.* [19-Aug-23 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stumbledcandy** joined.* [19-Aug-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***keithxwright** left.* [19-Aug-23 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nes_bit** left.* [20-Aug-23 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Lol [20-Aug-23 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***scipio93** left.* [20-Aug-23 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZENTURE** joined.* [20-Aug-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZENTURE**: ?? [20-Aug-23 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: it depends what do you want to do? [20-Aug-23 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZENTURE**: i dont know how to play [20-Aug-23 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: There should be an introduction telling you some starting steps [20-Aug-23 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It's been redesigned since I started so I'm afraid I can't guide you to it [20-Aug-23 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: in the top right of your screen you find a help button you can find the tutorial there [20-Aug-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: You start with 2 ships, some materials for a base and you'll need to decide what you think could make profit through research and calculation [20-Aug-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: If you're just looking for a generic purpose - It's all about finding ways to profit :) [20-Aug-23 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Din-mamma** left.* [20-Aug-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0a2f5c338e** left.* [20-Aug-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoelDevs** joined.* [20-Aug-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: room for 425t / 425m3 going from Benton Station to Katoa, leaving in 90 minutes [20-Aug-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Oh I misread [20-Aug-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: I thought it was the other direction [20-Aug-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll eventually be making a trip in Katoa->BEN station in a few days too :) I can haul your shpt then, or I can reject your contract. your choice [20-Aug-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: I am in no hurry, can keep it idle for now if its ok with you. [20-Aug-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘ sure [20-Aug-23 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Though it's not set to autoprovision (I dont know how to do that with private contracts - its my first try) [20-Aug-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: PM me if you want it prepared with a longer deadline [20-Aug-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the current deadlines look fine to me. what timezone are you in? [20-Aug-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: EU, but it means that I need to be on after you accept the contract, so accept it before you need to leave to avoid stalls. Thats why I considered upping the deadline so we can prepare well in adv. [20-Aug-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm in UTC-4, so we have some overlap. i think it will be okay. i'll accept the contract at least 24 hours before i intend to make the Katoa->BEN trip [20-Aug-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Alright, then it's ok. I'm on daily. [20-Aug-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Actually, I could get some stuff from Ben to here. [20-Aug-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Davik**: is Katoa a good place? im here already XD [20-Aug-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it depends on what you want to do; it's good for manufacturing or for fuel production, and is in CX system which is useful too. and it has no free plots, so it's difficult to get a base here later if you start elsewhere [20-Aug-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Davik**: Im a fuel guy atm so it seems like its working out [20-Aug-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Davik**: just made my first trip to market and sold some fuel [20-Aug-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome @Davik [20-Aug-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Davik**: thanks :D [20-Aug-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mordenkrad** joined.* [20-Aug-23 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: A friendly reminder. If you are going for a round trip to Benten station, (and if my calculations are correct) the cost with minimal fuel usage is 2274 CIS. So it may make sense to fly less often depending on your daily revenue. This includes ship repairs down the line. [20-Aug-23 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: This is for the starting ships. [20-Aug-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Wow... quite a few players want fuel CoGC here on Katoa. [20-Aug-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: while it may seem to be a good idea... I think that would push SF & FF prices on the CX even lower. [20-Aug-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: thus... causing fuel engineers more grief than assistance [20-Aug-23 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: When SF is under 10/u... new fuel engineers start having a tough time [20-Aug-23 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Since larger fuel engineers would already have their source materials covered via a corp. or self-production. [20-Aug-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Well it is a "Great" start on the new player setting for fuel engineer. [20-Aug-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** joined.* [20-Aug-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Of the 2 viable fuel engineer starts... Katoa is preferred. [20-Aug-23 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: if margins are too slim on the CX, it can become very challenging to make ends meet [20-Aug-23 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: looking at the leaderboard for SF... number 1 out produces 2nd and 3rd by quite a bit [20-Aug-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Sure but will supply increase because of a bonus? [20-Aug-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Well I guess that is what it means :D [20-Aug-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: always hard to tell if the increased volume would make up for the lower prices [20-Aug-23 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** left.* [20-Aug-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** joined.* [20-Aug-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (also, disregard the fact that i voted for manufacturing -- i clicked the wrong button πŸ˜€) [20-Aug-23 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as a fuel producer, i don't honestly mind the manufacturing bonuses. it can be useful to have bonuses there, to make up for my lack of manufacturing experts [20-Aug-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (but also i'm kind of a vertical integration kind of guy) [20-Aug-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***H4ckerxx44** left.* [20-Aug-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cobrax03** joined.* [20-Aug-23 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elon-Musk** left.* [20-Aug-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user35c572a5fe** left.* [20-Aug-23 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biotechjones** left.* [21-Aug-23 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: another side effect of fuel cogc would be, that I need to change the taxes so that the fuel produces pay much more. Currently the manufacturer pay high taxes to cover the costs, since they benefit from the cogc. if the cogc changes, I will charge the new benefitors for the costs. [21-Aug-23 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: a fuel COGC will also increase demand for fuel Inputs wich leads to higher costs [21-Aug-23 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: = even less profit for new players [21-Aug-23 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user954ce94f2e** left.* [21-Aug-23 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spoingo** joined.* [21-Aug-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hecorp** joined.* [21-Aug-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: Just sent my ship flying without loading my stuff from the warehouse... [21-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: abort it and send it back [21-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: I tried, but it is a single segment of two days :( [21-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: well bad luck then [21-Aug-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: yup [21-Aug-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: At least none of it was time critical to get shipped [21-Aug-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***krelix** joined.* [21-Aug-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GemmiArmy** joined.* [21-Aug-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ludere** joined.* [21-Aug-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drakkor** joined.* [21-Aug-23 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Euphoric-Lobster** left.* [21-Aug-23 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf5f9968d1d** left.* [21-Aug-23 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZENTURE**: i am new what to do [21-Aug-23 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uraa** joined.* [21-Aug-23 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MimisXO** left.* [21-Aug-23 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shark4Sale** joined.* [21-Aug-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 450t / 450m3 available, going from Benton Station to Katoa, leaving BEN in about 10 hours [21-Aug-23 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alight44** joined.* [21-Aug-23 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpiderBlinky** joined.* [22-Aug-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd82339f623** left.* [22-Aug-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Does anyone have some DW/RATs I can buy? Let my supplies get dangerously low. [22-Aug-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Should only need ~20 of each. [22-Aug-23 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sure, toss up a LM ad [22-Aug-23 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Didn't see the message earlier, but put up a LM ad for 30 each at a bit above CI1 pricing! [22-Aug-23 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Thanks! I can survive another day :D [22-Aug-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: living on the edge? :) [22-Aug-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: What? I would never. Definitely didn't have just 1 DW left. [22-Aug-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: On an unrelated note, can my workers drink ammonia? It's a liquid, right? Probably counts. It's probably safe. [22-Aug-23 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: Ev1l corp approve your idea :) [22-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Unfortunately Prun considers ammonia a gas xD [22-Aug-23 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Depends on what planet. On Biogenesis it's a mineral :-D [22-Aug-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Queen-Elisabeth-II** joined.* [22-Aug-23 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Ah yes, my drinking ammonia. [22-Aug-23 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: Sounds like an energy drink, somehow. "Ammonia Crunch" [22-Aug-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DonAlvido** left.* [22-Aug-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user58304ec1ab** left.* [22-Aug-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user823d8942b1** left.* [22-Aug-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Oh no, it seems RAT has had a price spike... I guess there's been in an influx of returning players recently? [22-Aug-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Yeah, "Ammonia Crunch" [22-Aug-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: "Ammonia Tang" [22-Aug-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: no, the RAT crisis is caused by just one player with too much money. similiar to the H2O crisis some time ago [22-Aug-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WilliamTheIII** left.* [22-Aug-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2c54dcca40** left.* [22-Aug-23 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Oof, I see [22-Aug-23 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zaza** joined.* [22-Aug-23 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MashRinx** joined.* [22-Aug-23 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dead_lead** joined.* [22-Aug-23 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chaldon** left.* [23-Aug-23 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ere_S** joined.* [23-Aug-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProtoN_ex** left.* [23-Aug-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KarGo_970** joined.* [23-Aug-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xtremegamer245** joined.* [23-Aug-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc16d013b44** left.* [23-Aug-23 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Medic_Main_2009** joined.* [24-Aug-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Inflation** left.* [24-Aug-23 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: 0Hey everyone. how is business going? [24-Aug-23 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: anyone mind telling me every how many days they repair their buildings? how at how much %? [24-Aug-23 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: after 89 days usually, or earlier. at 89-90d the repair cost is half of the building cost; if you wait until 91d, the cost will grow by 1 of each prefabs because of rounding. and the efficiency deteriorates fast after that [24-Aug-23 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JakeB907** left.* [24-Aug-23 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BenWithJamIn** joined.* [24-Aug-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pimpernuckel** joined.* [24-Aug-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VaptVulpe** joined.* [24-Aug-23 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoatDog** joined.* [25-Aug-23 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Business is alright. Made some mistakes as a new player lol. But all is good. [25-Aug-23 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Minus the RAT crisis. Meh, they don't need food. [25-Aug-23 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: I'm thinking of switching to an agriculture focus to provide RAT, but it'll take several weeks to get the setup going. I'm new here [25-Aug-23 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: if you dont like your current industry, you can "restart" and choose your Agriculture industries starter that's focus on making rat, since you have the choise to choose high fertility and H2O planet as your starter planet [25-Aug-23 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: you can restart by COLIQ, but makesure to finish your contracts first [25-Aug-23 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: I'm fine here. I'll switch back to Fuel after the RAT crisis is over. Plus, Fuel isn't profitable for me until I setup a second base to collect H, so I don't mind the extra step if it means helping the market for others. [25-Aug-23 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: if you want to be RAT maker, i highly suggest you to choose Promitor as your starter planet as it's the best agriculture planet in the whole universe [25-Aug-23 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: not particularly, but someone has to provide supply here, so I'll fill in with what i can [25-Aug-23 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: plus, it's really profitable at the moment [25-Aug-23 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: most people will travel to other planet or CX to get their consumables [25-Aug-23 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: but if you're making RATs here and it's profitable then who am i to judge xD [25-Aug-23 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: It'll save people the trip, and the demand is pretty high here rn [25-Aug-23 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: business is boomin xD [25-Aug-23 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: xD [25-Aug-23 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xman2006** joined.* [25-Aug-23 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stroan** left.* [25-Aug-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8db0db5aa0** left.* [25-Aug-23 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hountez** left.* [25-Aug-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Did I read RAT? *.* [25-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: yes you did [25-Aug-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sal56** joined.* [25-Aug-23 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KDJouineau** joined.* [25-Aug-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Niknik67** joined.* [25-Aug-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lethalcroak** left.* [26-Aug-23 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ritte** joined.* [26-Aug-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSane** joined.* [26-Aug-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zubroska** joined.* [26-Aug-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rawen** joined.* [26-Aug-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7dd292d024** left.* [26-Aug-23 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc41aacaab4** left.* [26-Aug-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DCLXVII** joined.* [26-Aug-23 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Can anyone spare 40 MCG? I shorted myself. Putting up LM ad now [26-Aug-23 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Thank you! [26-Aug-23 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: yw [26-Aug-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***manmouthmoth** joined.* [27-Aug-23 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Omega_Prime** joined.* [27-Aug-23 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***marine307** left.* [27-Aug-23 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCookiePilot** left.* [27-Aug-23 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Urakuya** joined.* [27-Aug-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MooMooVasuki** joined.* [27-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravelock** joined.* [27-Aug-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5c3351a10c** left.* [27-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***C_Montgomery_burns** joined.* [27-Aug-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etothepi** left.* [27-Aug-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***syfy_man** joined.* [27-Aug-23 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **syfy_man**: hello [27-Aug-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: hi :) [27-Aug-23 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greyhe** left.* [27-Aug-23 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Joekingdom**: Hello, there [27-Aug-23 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: hello :) [27-Aug-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gurbe** left.* [27-Aug-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7272746b1b** left.* [27-Aug-23 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stumbledcandy** left.* [28-Aug-23 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***S3LFA** left.* [28-Aug-23 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercabc4d1876** left.* [28-Aug-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user98fe249bfe** left.* [28-Aug-23 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaceGOLD** joined.* [28-Aug-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Shipping space for cheap available to (UV-072b) [28-Aug-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: 450t free [28-Aug-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do you mean UV-072c? There is nothing on UV-072b? [28-Aug-23 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4f17e2c78e** left.* [28-Aug-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexFrankenstein** joined.* [28-Aug-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cobrax03** left.* [28-Aug-23 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user87e87fcc00** left.* [29-Aug-23 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: anyone have OVE on Katoa for sale? looking for 50, seems my workers mismanaged their supplies again [29-Aug-23 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: I cant post on LM as I am a basic [29-Aug-23 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: would also settle for 200 DW as I just got a faction contract for DW with reward of OVE [29-Aug-23 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: @Lacisum Ill send you contract for OVE [29-Aug-23 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: Thank you! [29-Aug-23 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yw :) [29-Aug-23 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: Need to teach them how to do laundry :) [29-Aug-23 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: laundry?...e... then please ignore that my OVE are made from paper and plastic to cut production costs :) [29-Aug-23 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: "please excuse our remodelling while we rip out all the washers" [29-Aug-23 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***defendedberet96** joined.* [29-Aug-23 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApplepieCo** joined.* [29-Aug-23 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nottaro** left.* [29-Aug-23 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flying_Mustache** left.* [29-Aug-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***krelix** left.* [29-Aug-23 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lamboulda** joined.* [29-Aug-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AppalachianMounta1n** joined.* [29-Aug-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DomiMartinGlogi** joined.* [29-Aug-23 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IrUs** joined.* [29-Aug-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pullthelever** joined.* [29-Aug-23 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Henrytheteacher** joined.* [29-Aug-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheWyrm** joined.* [29-Aug-23 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epochal** joined.* [29-Aug-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProMethCook** joined.* [29-Aug-23 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gordonquad** left.* [29-Aug-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrRedLogan** joined.* [29-Aug-23 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoringRobin** joined.* [29-Aug-23 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gilliamwong** joined.* [29-Aug-23 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dizzle9000** joined.* [29-Aug-23 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gilliamwong** left.* [29-Aug-23 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: guys if someone has some free space on a ship going from benten station to katoa , i've put an ad on the BEN LM :D [29-Aug-23 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera52cc5bc21** left.* [29-Aug-23 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vee9** joined.* [29-Aug-23 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MatheusNDC** joined.* [29-Aug-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cammit** joined.* [30-Aug-23 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nutcase** joined.* [30-Aug-23 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user722e1637e8** left.* [30-Aug-23 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joebidenten** joined.* [30-Aug-23 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToddH_SeanM_Enterprises** joined.* [30-Aug-23 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Occulta** joined.* [30-Aug-23 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cmd.Puretide** joined.* [30-Aug-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lord_byron** joined.* [30-Aug-23 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Padaborn** joined.* [30-Aug-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korasz** joined.* [30-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dry-Eyed-Seraphim** joined.* [30-Aug-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc1283a4cbd** left.* [30-Aug-23 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shortyhat99** joined.* [30-Aug-23 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theteluri** joined.* [30-Aug-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***carterceb** joined.* [30-Aug-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere8895b7666** left.* [30-Aug-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melechi** joined.* [30-Aug-23 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zoro3478** joined.* [30-Aug-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Space_Olive** joined.* [30-Aug-23 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TorMenter** joined.* [30-Aug-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zsdsfdgh** joined.* [30-Aug-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***User23** joined.* [30-Aug-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MeHToC** joined.* [30-Aug-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TCW** joined.* [30-Aug-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vagabond1** joined.* [30-Aug-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TCW** left.* [30-Aug-23 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KEVINMATHHEWS08** joined.* [30-Aug-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StarWrek** joined.* [30-Aug-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koya2** joined.* [30-Aug-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: that's a lot of new people [30-Aug-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: *yeah, UV-072c there is space [30-Aug-23 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Shipping space for cheap available to UV-072c 448t/470m3 limit [30-Aug-23 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hoid** joined.* [30-Aug-23 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Muetta616** joined.* [30-Aug-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I've got 500/500 available that will leaving Benton and heading to Katoa at some point tonight. I'll post in here once either someone's posted an ad, or I take off [30-Aug-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amronesh** joined.* [30-Aug-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: Anyone willing to sell me some MCG? [30-Aug-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you as much as 500. [30-Aug-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: What rate? [30-Aug-23 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 16 - bid value on the CX. [30-Aug-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: Ok I'll buy all 500 [30-Aug-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: its going into my HQ upgrades :) [30-Aug-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Are you going to create the contract or shall I? [30-Aug-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: Probably better if you make it [30-Aug-23 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay, stand by. [30-Aug-23 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: I'm a bit error prone XD [30-Aug-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm having some trouble getting your name to come up. [30-Aug-23 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Got it. [30-Aug-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: time to toss millions of cis worth of goods into the trash [30-Aug-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: TOTALLY unrelated question [30-Aug-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AGM-114**: anyone have 200 OFF for sale? [30-Aug-23 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Endershadow** joined.* [30-Aug-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm leaving Ben so no more room :) [30-Aug-23 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: THere are OFF listed on the LM [30-Aug-23 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: buy them and relist what you dont need? 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[30-Aug-23 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: Yeah [30-Aug-23 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: Basically you have to select the station you wanna go to from the ship itself [30-Aug-23 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: should be a button towards the top that says flight controls [30-Aug-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: how do i know where to go [30-Aug-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: Look up nearby commodity exchanges [30-Aug-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: and you can buy stuff from them [30-Aug-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: look it up where [30-Aug-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: the map [30-Aug-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: nvm i see it [30-Aug-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: should be Benten right? [30-Aug-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: im in benten yea [30-Aug-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: I'm based on the same planet you are too [30-Aug-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: ok which place to go to buy stuff [30-Aug-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: CX CI1 [30-Aug-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: Type that in a new buffer window [30-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: neat [30-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: how do i lock it now [30-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: The window? [30-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: yea [30-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SteebyWonder** joined.* [30-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: Split one of your current windows and type that into the buffer there [30-Aug-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: how split [30-Aug-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: top right of the window where that gear is, hover over that, then click either of the lines that pop up [30-Aug-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ItsEman**: oh thanks [30-Aug-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: np, don't ask about much more than that, I just started today xD [30-Aug-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: super newb lol [30-Aug-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Have you unloaded both ships? [30-Aug-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hoid**: I have, idk about the othery guy [30-Aug-23 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hoid** left.* [30-Aug-23 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Landrum** joined.* [31-Aug-23 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamergo** joined.* [31-Aug-23 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user23c9bb5596** left.* [31-Aug-23 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dead_lead** left.* [31-Aug-23 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what are you people missing here at Katoa? I mean what commodity? [31-Aug-23 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is big demand for H all that I post on LM disappears in less then 24h, even when it's 3k in total [31-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what are you selling it for? [31-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have some surplus i could sell as well [31-Aug-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: for 80 [31-Aug-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: ask price in Benten is at 90-100 most of the time now [31-Aug-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i put up a couple of ads [31-Aug-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jyenormous** joined.* [31-Aug-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: lol if I didn't suck all of it up the last week xD [31-Aug-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: 10 refinery very thirsty [31-Aug-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Soon to be more once I start collecting my own GAL... But I've got a minute for that [31-Aug-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: *My own GAL on a different planet [31-Aug-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***b.meinhardt06** joined.* [31-Aug-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***b.meinhardt06** left.* [31-Aug-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***b.meinhardt06** joined.* [31-Aug-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tooslider** left.* [31-Aug-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userab4d39458a** left.* [31-Aug-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zegrusher** joined.* [31-Aug-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9f15b5e8e1** left.* [31-Aug-23 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noblebork** joined.* [31-Aug-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zoro3478**: can ships use FTL to travel wiithin the same system? [31-Aug-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Nope only STL since ig if you engage an ftl drive youd prob crash into a planet faster than light [31-Aug-23 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Its prob worse than getting shot as you have a whole freighter colliding into your apartment faster than <299792km/s [31-Aug-23 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***2000Semmie** left.* [31-Aug-23 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: there is a way to use FTL travel. You can jump out of system, abort mid flight, and then jump again to different planet [31-Aug-23 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it's best way to go from Biogenesis to Katoa/Benten because Bio is realy far out and pure STL travel takes ages [31-Aug-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kayajanc** joined.* [31-Aug-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kayajanc**: hello world [31-Aug-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aurelka** joined.* [31-Aug-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bobchugabu** joined.* [31-Aug-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jay77786** joined.* [31-Aug-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa53b2cd7d** left.* [31-Aug-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kayajanc** left.* [31-Aug-23 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wavelink** joined.* [31-Aug-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wormey56** joined.* [31-Aug-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: hello @Kayajanc [31-Aug-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Hey, I know the recommend time to repair buildings is just before 90 days. What about ships? [31-Aug-23 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: according to `SFC`, ships get slower at 80%, so i figure you should do your repair before that :D [31-Aug-23 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: In the blueprint menu (BLU) players can test ships out with various conditions/loads. [31-Aug-23 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: makes it easy to see the slowdown at 80% condition on ships [31-Aug-23 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: the slow-down is marginal, you could wait until 70% [31-Aug-23 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: certainly could wait longer.. but slower ships tend to take more damage overall. So shredding hull plates will take less and less [31-Aug-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: actually, when testing in the BLU, ships take less damage as their condition worsens. Which is odd. [31-Aug-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: the base blueprint ship, at least [01-Sep-23 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OnceUponATime** left.* [01-Sep-23 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mineturtle404** joined.* [01-Sep-23 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jay77786** left.* [01-Sep-23 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user174bb8d2ff** left.* [01-Sep-23 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZappyHalo567** joined.* [01-Sep-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera7f64fc4a5** left.* [01-Sep-23 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4435bc2458** left.* [01-Sep-23 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user555ae1aab3** left.* [01-Sep-23 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user271156c368** left.* [01-Sep-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morgund** joined.* [01-Sep-23 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tutukiboy** joined.* [01-Sep-23 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tutukiboy** left.* [01-Sep-23 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rocannon3451** joined.* [01-Sep-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DyingGingerBread** left.* [01-Sep-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Afro__Joe** joined.* [01-Sep-23 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaizNike** left.* [02-Sep-23 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RakiXV** joined.* [02-Sep-23 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf553a44133** left.* [02-Sep-23 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: A lot of the damage inflicted involves a calculation of what speed the ship travels at (micrometeors) so it's not all that odd that a slower ship suffers less damage. 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[02-Sep-23 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eclipse913** joined.* [02-Sep-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carradar** joined.* [02-Sep-23 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aviator_Fushigi** joined.* [02-Sep-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nomusclcularhealth** joined.* [02-Sep-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ggaarryy** joined.* [02-Sep-23 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SadSack** joined.* [02-Sep-23 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SadSack**: ...so. is there anything else to do after doing the beginning tasks? i just got my first production lines running [02-Sep-23 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SadSack**: or do i wait till my product line is finished producing? [02-Sep-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SadSack**: awww. i gots ignored [03-Sep-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: im guessing reading handbook [03-Sep-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: makes your future plan [03-Sep-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: if you have PRO LIC or BASIC LIC you can pickup transport ads in popular planet or CX [03-Sep-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: or you can pick up loans for faster expansion which mean more things to do [03-Sep-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: need more motivation to pickup PRO? here you go! :) [03-Sep-23 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Niknik67** left.* [03-Sep-23 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Urakuya**: where can you check loan contracts etc [03-Sep-23 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Urakuya**: cmd? [03-Sep-23 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Urakuya**: looking for investor to loan me a 500k loan to expand my prod, rates negotiable, please contact me directly if interested <3 [03-Sep-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: how much a standard ship cost? [03-Sep-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lyssa** joined.* [03-Sep-23 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: your standard ship that's comes free? easily 2mil [03-Sep-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: I expected worse, to tell the truth [03-Sep-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: thanks [03-Sep-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: no worries :) [03-Sep-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user39680d4080** left.* [03-Sep-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SadSack**: oh okay thanks. I guess I should read the handbook. I didnt even know transport ads are a thing. thanx [03-Sep-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zubroska** left.* [03-Sep-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: 2mil is a big sum and i wanna cry lol [03-Sep-23 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: in most cases it's better to upgrade starter ships with bigger cargobays before buying new ships [03-Sep-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it will cost between 600k-1,5mil depending on which cargobay you will choose [03-Sep-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aristodemus** joined.* [03-Sep-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LivingCreative** joined.* [03-Sep-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SadSack**: yo how often do scammers try to do a scam. I just got a contract that reeks it. [03-Sep-23 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: You were sent a contract? Or you saw an ad on a Local Market? [03-Sep-23 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Couple of things could be going on....first off, on local markets sometimes you see folks post ads at "corporate prices" for one of their corporate partners. The pricing looks like nonesense to folks not in the corporation, but they have internal trading agreements that make sense for them. So those are legit deals, just not targeted at you or me. [03-Sep-23 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: I also see a lot of ads posted on local markets at what I think are more "Wish" prices than real prices. They aren't good deals and are off base on the market....but hey, if someone is willing to pay that (or sell for that), what two consenting parties choose to do is really none of my business. [03-Sep-23 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Other than a few pirates spamming contracts, I don't think I have seen much that I would truly call scamming in this game. "Wishing" -- absolutely. "Scamming" -- Not really. [03-Sep-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Oh, I should also mention the faction contracts. Many of them make sense, some of them are absolute garbage. But they are from an NPC algorithm and so not really scams, just flaws in the underlying code put in by the developers. [03-Sep-23 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: You say that but I have on at least one occasion missread one of those "ads" :/ should of let it expire in hindsight but I had already provided the mats anyway [03-Sep-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: 90% discount ;-; [03-Sep-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SadSack** left.* [03-Sep-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Oh, I hope he is coliqing to correct beginners mistakes and not coliqing because he decided not to play. 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[04-Sep-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: it should be in base, planet warehouse or in ship cargobay [04-Sep-23 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i bought it at benten station - i dont have a warehouse there and its not in my ships. also not in my katoa base. Where else could it be? [04-Sep-23 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: if you bought at Benten CX, check your contracts [04-Sep-23 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: you should have one for H pickup [04-Sep-23 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FreshFromage**: do plots ever open up [04-Sep-23 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FreshFromage**: my starter base is on katoa with 0 open plots [04-Sep-23 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: If you have a base you do not need to care about plots - You can expand with permits without caring about plots [04-Sep-23 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: It's "Start Base" that will be blocked, but the starter base can be placed on starter worlds no matter the plot count :) [04-Sep-23 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Katoa is quite regulary up into negative plot-count because of how many people like starting here [04-Sep-23 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Every 3-6 months there's a race to see if anyone manages to snatch a slot that frees up the regular fashion [04-Sep-23 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lyssa** left.* [04-Sep-23 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lyssa** joined.* [04-Sep-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gamingblitz227** joined.* [04-Sep-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ritte** left.* [04-Sep-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSane** left.* [04-Sep-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aristodemus**: Question to the wise - How much does it cost to fix a ship per 1% ? the basic ones [04-Sep-23 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ottovanbismarck** joined.* [04-Sep-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: @Aristodemus: price of hull plates (BHP etc)*as many as your blueprint has + price of SSC your blueprint has. Add them together, divide by 100. [04-Sep-23 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: SSC*as many your bleprint has I meant to say [04-Sep-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: (BHPPrice*48 + SSCPrice*46)/100 if you mean the starter ship. [04-Sep-23 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: BHP.CI1 SSC.CI1 [04-Sep-23 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: 1469.50 CIS per 1 % [04-Sep-23 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: so, a BHP and a SSC for 2% aprox [04-Sep-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: 1BHP+1SSC [04-Sep-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: right? [04-Sep-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: roughly yes [04-Sep-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebus**: I heard that ship starts losing performance at 80%, so it doesnt seem to make much sense to repair before that. [04-Sep-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: I did the test the other day and that is right, the ship start going slower at 80% [04-Sep-23 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Aristodemus**: It doesn't matter, it's an estimation of trip cost... so 1500Β± for 1% [04-Sep-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armadillo** joined.* [04-Sep-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4e3b553549** left.* [04-Sep-23 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userde13237523** left.* [04-Sep-23 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Berkmine** joined.* [04-Sep-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravelock** left.* [04-Sep-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Looking for some urgent RATS if anyone can help out? 500 for 50k [04-Sep-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: ad onLM [04-Sep-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dishevelled** joined.* [04-Sep-23 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ninjababy657** joined.* [04-Sep-23 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boland** joined.* [05-Sep-23 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Somers** joined.* [05-Sep-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user08413f2391** left.* [05-Sep-23 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Camo5** joined.* [05-Sep-23 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Camo5** left.* [05-Sep-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ozggg** joined.* [05-Sep-23 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NanuNanu** joined.* [05-Sep-23 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Damascus** joined.* [05-Sep-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tdennis** joined.* [05-Sep-23 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere806101ced** left.* [05-Sep-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aviator_Fushigi** left.* [05-Sep-23 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Britton** joined.* [05-Sep-23 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirnaboii** joined.* [06-Sep-23 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Felmer**: forgot some BDE. If someone can help, that would be appreciated. AD on LM [06-Sep-23 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4c0b5e6b4e** left.* [06-Sep-23 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Carradar**: ello [06-Sep-23 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Henlo OwO X3 [06-Sep-23 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: hello [06-Sep-23 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CLARKI3** joined.* [06-Sep-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LETSDEWTHIS** joined.* [06-Sep-23 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***morlan** joined.* [06-Sep-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ApplepieCo** left.* [06-Sep-23 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***qw5vbnltb3vz.221073520** joined.* [06-Sep-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ekis** joined.* [06-Sep-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user366aa2cd65** left.* [06-Sep-23 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Imagine being top 16 SF maker and running so low on fuel you can't get home without buying some from market [06-Sep-23 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoringRobin** left.* [06-Sep-23 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: lol [06-Sep-23 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uirusan16** joined.* [06-Sep-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheWyrm** left.* [06-Sep-23 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5e5e464eef** left.* [07-Sep-23 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crude276** joined.* [07-Sep-23 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prasetya** joined.* [07-Sep-23 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eli310** joined.* [07-Sep-23 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FreshFromage** left.* [07-Sep-23 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0cb5d1652b** left.* [07-Sep-23 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eli310**: a [07-Sep-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheReclif** joined.* [07-Sep-23 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc4ee7e3920** left.* [07-Sep-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Waphurus** joined.* [07-Sep-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thecreative8** joined.* [07-Sep-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Space_Olive** left.* [07-Sep-23 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zsdsfdgh** left.* [07-Sep-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thecreative8**: hi im new on this planet [07-Sep-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TorMenter** left.* [07-Sep-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: Welcome [07-Sep-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ToddH_SeanM_Enterprises** left.* [07-Sep-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vagabond1** left.* [07-Sep-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf2d331950b** left.* [07-Sep-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***carterceb** left.* [07-Sep-23 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AppalachianMounta1n** left.* [07-Sep-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexFrankenstein** left.* [07-Sep-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Welcome! [07-Sep-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I was new too a month ago [07-Sep-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Oof [07-Sep-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***relliK1009** joined.* [07-Sep-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lamboulda** left.* [07-Sep-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tayio** joined.* [07-Sep-23 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user63dda334b7** left.* [07-Sep-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user14928bfec5** left.* [07-Sep-23 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***themonkeytoucher** left.* [07-Sep-23 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quall** left.* [08-Sep-23 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melechi** left.* [08-Sep-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Welcome [08-Sep-23 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3983148585** left.* [08-Sep-23 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Padaborn** left.* [08-Sep-23 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pegasis1002** left.* [08-Sep-23 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: At what condition percentage is it recommended to repair buildings? [08-Sep-23 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: I think it's before 50% [08-Sep-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: Thanks! [08-Sep-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thunder2211** left.* [08-Sep-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: so, 99.9%? [08-Sep-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i usualy repair when they hit 80% condition [08-Sep-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zegrusher** left.* [08-Sep-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yutit** joined.* [08-Sep-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Muetta616** left.* [08-Sep-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Optimal repair time varies by building type and planet. The key is you want to hit them right before the parts needed ticks up….so optimal timing depends on what the tick points are for that building type. [08-Sep-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: As most buildings have even numbers of inputs, a lot of people use 89 days as that is pretty close to 50% of the building inputs. [08-Sep-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: But for something like a rig or an extractor that has a massive number of BSEs and no other components, there are a lot of solutions that come out very close to the same efficiency. [08-Sep-23 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korasz** left.* [08-Sep-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aurelka** left.* [08-Sep-23 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bobchugabu** left.* [08-Sep-23 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Manchita10** left.* [08-Sep-23 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pandamonious** joined.* [08-Sep-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM Buy 1000 STL @ 20000 CIS (20/u) I have a ship doing UMB to KAT in 1hr50m and I need to get started to Yannick to build a ship so I don't care that I'm paying twice the rate if someone has 1k sitting around. [08-Sep-23 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Got it covered. Happy flying! 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[08-Sep-23 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: did you mean to say SF [08-Sep-23 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9f4aeee0f9** left.* [08-Sep-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Landrum** left.* [08-Sep-23 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***child** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bumv12** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eterna** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SharkyGrin** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***871923931** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackstoneGroup** joined.* [09-Sep-23 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fycz** joined.* [09-Sep-23 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbc764f19d9** left.* [09-Sep-23 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gjrns** joined.* [09-Sep-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx [09-Sep-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mord1** joined.* [09-Sep-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfgp** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FriendlyWalrus** left.* [09-Sep-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delta3963** joined.* [09-Sep-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***871923931** left.* [09-Sep-23 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user529315aa58** left.* [09-Sep-23 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Afro__Joe** left.* [10-Sep-23 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RakiXV** left.* [10-Sep-23 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mau5karl** joined.* [10-Sep-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mau5karl** left.* [10-Sep-23 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noodleyboi** joined.* [10-Sep-23 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: yellow [10-Sep-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: im new and have no idea what im doing [10-Sep-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: but this sounds super fun [10-Sep-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: ish [10-Sep-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: buiness [10-Sep-23 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome! [10-Sep-23 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wormey56** left.* [10-Sep-23 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: if you like resource gathering/ crafting without someone with 'weapons' constantly destroying what you are building, you will enjoy. If you are int ospreadsheets and planning. you will absolutely love this game [10-Sep-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Katoa is a good starting location. so good choice :D [10-Sep-23 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mau5karl** joined.* [10-Sep-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hostanox** left.* [10-Sep-23 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: oh was it? i just picked whatever said 5 stars [10-Sep-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hehe, what speciality have you taken and are planning to craft to get your empire off thr ground ? [10-Sep-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: idk im coming in blind [10-Sep-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: im watching manufactury proffesion guide thing [10-Sep-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think you have to select a speciality when you start the game. but you don't have to stick with it. you can instantly do something else if you want [10-Sep-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: uhhh, then i forgot lol [10-Sep-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you built any buildings yet? [10-Sep-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well definitely go through the training video's, have you put any buildings down yet ? [10-Sep-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: i put down 2 HB1's and 2 BMPs [10-Sep-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a decent choice; BMPs will benefit from the manufacturing bonus that Katoa has [10-Sep-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good, manufacturing is Katoa\s speciality. look and see what you can craft from what you have in stock. the Benten market is close by so you can get supplies from there and sell your product on the market there [10-Sep-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: im guessing i went for the building part one because i have limestone and silicon ore in my inv [10-Sep-23 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: oop [10-Sep-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: well [10-Sep-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: huh [10-Sep-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: \idk [10-Sep-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: i have stuff for poly-ethelyne [10-Sep-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well Lst and SIO make MCG's. those sell well at the CX (comodity exchange ) [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: and mineral construction granulate [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: wait [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: 4 hours as in real time [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: ? [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yep. lol [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: ;-; [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: this is a set things up and wealk away situation [10-Sep-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, this game is something that you check in one a few times a day, not play for hours on end [10-Sep-23 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: oh [10-Sep-23 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: :( [10-Sep-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but the desire to continually make mores things (and make more money) can be pretty strong and fun :) [10-Sep-23 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: yeah but grind [10-Sep-23 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: once you get multiple planet facilities up and running and multiple ships working logistics for you it can get way more involved [10-Sep-23 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: ayyyy [10-Sep-23 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's a good point [10-Sep-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: i hope i can get to a point where production takes 10 seconds instead of 4 hrs (plz tell me thats happening later in the game :( ) [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, you'll never able to do that [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: :( [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but: if you want something in 10 seconds, you could just buy it from the market :) [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: but when you get 100 factories up and running it will feel like it [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: :) [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: it takes time and patience to get there [10-Sep-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (but then it'll takes some time for ships to fly from place to place) [10-Sep-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good point [10-Sep-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: build faster ships :p [10-Sep-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: give the game some patence and time and trust me you will find it worth while [10-Sep-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: with my 5 refineries, i can produce 500 STL fuel in 200 minutes. that's an average of 1fuel every 24 seconds :) [10-Sep-23 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (and i only have 1 base -- some people have dozens of bases) [10-Sep-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: got 4 so far. definately going to expand more lol [10-Sep-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: 1 million bases must be insane [10-Sep-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: alr time to read manga [10-Sep-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: each base gets progressively more expensive, so there's a practical upper-limit to the number of bases you can have [10-Sep-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol, dont think anyone is close to that.... The most bases so far is 33 I believe [10-Sep-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Sorry 31 .... Lumber Liquidators [10-Sep-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i see that company everywhere :) [10-Sep-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: funnily enopugh they have no where close to the most ships [10-Sep-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Gotta love the leader boards [10-Sep-23 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they're fun, i'm glad they added that feature [10-Sep-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it doesn't change how i play, or get me to "compete" more, but it's fun to look at the data [10-Sep-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: absolutely agreed. 'though I have a goal to get up the PWO crafting ranks lol' [10-Sep-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: whats pwo [10-Sep-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a paid subscription that unlocks some useful features of the game [10-Sep-23 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you're only just getting started, i would recommend that you not worry about it for the moment [10-Sep-23 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there is plenty to do under the free account (including managing multiple bases) [10-Sep-23 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***weber0687** joined.* [10-Sep-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: definitely. get happy with any game before commiting any cash. [10-Sep-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: I just happen to like it so much I bought a year pro license lol [10-Sep-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this morning i woke up to find only $287 in my bank account, which is way lower than i usually keep my balances. kinda worried about my ability to pay production fees now [10-Sep-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: oh heck agreed. rl comes first [10-Sep-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: or in game... sell something [10-Sep-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, in game :) [10-Sep-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 287 CIS i guess i should say [10-Sep-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol. much better [10-Sep-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but there's no symbol for CIS currency [10-Sep-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, 287 USD would be *really scary*, but this is just video game money :) [10-Sep-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah also happened to be before :) [10-Sep-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have a few pending buy orders that i'll cancel to recover a bit of CIS [10-Sep-23 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrefarGray** joined.* [10-Sep-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: :( 3 hrs to go [10-Sep-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I ended up so low I couldn't afford the prod costs before now. whoops. I was really trying to dump everything into building more of base so. [10-Sep-23 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: btw What kind of ROI do people tend to expect? Was looking at getting a base on Bio for better (or cheaper) Prod of amm than my currrent base. The ROI was like ~60-70 days.,.. [10-Sep-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: uhh [10-Sep-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: what ding [10-Sep-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: what did da do da ding [10-Sep-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: check your "NOTS" (notifications) in the top right @Noodleyboi [10-Sep-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: chamber of global commerce at benten? whats dat [10-Sep-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: i know benten is the system im in [10-Sep-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Noodleyboi**: or smth [10-Sep-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: So this planet has a building called "Chamber of Global Commerce". It means that people who are on this planet can vote for a different Buff (Eg a buff to Manufacturing) [10-Sep-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: if you check out the "Planet info" section (cmd: PLI UV-351a) Check the "Infratusture" bit, It'll have them listed there with some info/tips [10-Sep-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edo87** left.* [10-Sep-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AriseKey** left.* [10-Sep-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noblebork** left.* [10-Sep-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***krexy** joined.* [10-Sep-23 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KravXNovi** joined.* [10-Sep-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SharkyGrin** left.* [10-Sep-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrBlach** left.* [10-Sep-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vee9** left.* [10-Sep-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dry-Eyed-Seraphim** left.* [10-Sep-23 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vampiric235** joined.* [11-Sep-23 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Broome** joined.* [11-Sep-23 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***scnstr** left.* [11-Sep-23 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***antonite** joined.* [11-Sep-23 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: I just started and now I need to wait 6 hours and 7 mins for my production order to finish?! O____O [11-Sep-23 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: the start is unfortunately not so action-heavy, you have a lot of time to familiarize yourself with the game [11-Sep-23 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: check out the discord communities, mess around with the APEX UI, learn about the game, find some community made tools, and make some plans! That's honestly my favorite part of this game, I spend more time planning and chatting than actually "doing thing" in the terminal. It's an idle game that doesn't *have* to be idle Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [11-Sep-23 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: yeah, the start of this game is very slow. It took for me around one month until it became more... busy. [11-Sep-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: You can make it more interesting by trading between Market stations, since your ships don't have much to do at start. Or if you are ready to buy pro license, you can do shipping contracts for other players [11-Sep-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SharkyGrin** joined.* [11-Sep-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nomusclcularhealth** left.* [11-Sep-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0ea5b54c66** left.* [11-Sep-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jgonz.geo** joined.* [11-Sep-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amronesh** left.* [11-Sep-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***caleido** left.* [11-Sep-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ozggg** left.* [11-Sep-23 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuifje** left.* [11-Sep-23 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***relliK1009** left.* [11-Sep-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lexasaur3** joined.* [11-Sep-23 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alladynek** left.* [11-Sep-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eclipse913** left.* [12-Sep-23 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: Is this an LGBTQIA+ friendly game? [12-Sep-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: This game is friendly for anyone with the spirit of production...and waiting for goods to be produced/shipped [12-Sep-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: Haha, well thats me. As a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, I know all about supply and demand, giving and receiving *does a hair flip* [12-Sep-23 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: starting is a bit... slow... but picks up quickly once your on 2 bases [12-Sep-23 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Carradar**: How many days in would you expect to have your second base up and running? [12-Sep-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: without assistence.. ~45-60 days [12-Sep-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: with support or loan.. within 5ish days... just depends [12-Sep-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: players who make loans typically want to see a base plan/etc. and go from there [12-Sep-23 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Carradar**: Yep, this game takes some time. But I bet the dopamine hit you get a few months to a year down the line is gonna be quite something xD [12-Sep-23 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: well... PRUN pairs well with my schedule... not many games do that [12-Sep-23 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: I've hit the point where I have to calculate tonnage and volume to make sure that my ship can hold the inputs I have to buy. Business be boomin [12-Sep-23 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: sounds like you're doing fuel [12-Sep-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: yeah, it's the more profitable thing atm. Can't wait to start a base on umbra, then I won't need to purchase inputs anymore [12-Sep-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's one of the industries that use a heavier amount of shipping [12-Sep-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Umbra... is a bit far out atm... [12-Sep-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: can I name planets in the game? [12-Sep-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can be a bit costly to get there atm [12-Sep-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: yeah, but you stuff 500 H in a cargo bay so it should be worth it [12-Sep-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: indeed.... it's a supporter thing [12-Sep-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: Umbra's H deposit is decent... but you'd want a gas giant plot if you need that much often [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: I don't need a ton atm, and I'd rather not have to travel intersystem if I have to [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: starting profession packages only matter for the 1st 30ish days [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: umm can I name planets in this game??? [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: yes [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: it's a supporter thing though [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: cool [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: awwww [12-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: there are some... interesting planet names out there [12-Sep-23 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: LG-913e.... is one of those [12-Sep-23 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **antonite**: I'm the type of person to name a planet 'pinky pie' teeheeheehee [12-Sep-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: can look at that planet by: (new buffer) -> PLI -> enter LG-913e [12-Sep-23 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Carradar**: Planet mc planetface omg xD [12-Sep-23 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: bound to happen lol [12-Sep-23 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: xD [12-Sep-23 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: that name was voted for by the comunity XD [12-Sep-23 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RNGzero**: still... it happened xD [12-Sep-23 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pimpernuckel** left.* [12-Sep-23 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user68029c69e9** left.* [12-Sep-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eugane** joined.* [12-Sep-23 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***martan5** joined.* [12-Sep-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TreeLover69** joined.* [12-Sep-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well paid shipping contract from benten station to Katoa available in Benten [12-Sep-23 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TimeKills** left.* [12-Sep-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user52bc3d2cc7** left.* [12-Sep-23 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SevenSeeds** joined.* [12-Sep-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user10a9cba4b5** left.* [12-Sep-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LivingCreative** left.* [12-Sep-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TehProman** joined.* [12-Sep-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frostwood** left.* [12-Sep-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: any corp open to new members in Katoa? 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[15-Sep-23 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZekeMorrin** joined.* [15-Sep-23 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: Hi everyone [15-Sep-23 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mineturtle404**: Welcome to Katoa [15-Sep-23 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuroxy** joined.* [15-Sep-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: thank you [15-Sep-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: nice planet :) [15-Sep-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: I posted some local ads at Katoa to buy smaller volumes of HE3, GAL and some AMM if anyone can fulfill them. Cheers :) [15-Sep-23 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eli310** left.* [15-Sep-23 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user42cef50ff9** left.* [15-Sep-23 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tayio** left.* [15-Sep-23 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Landrum** joined.* [15-Sep-23 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user35348cd9ae** left.* [15-Sep-23 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azhidaahaka** joined.* [15-Sep-23 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raz80** joined.* [16-Sep-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: Thanks for accepting them o7 [16-Sep-23 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome. 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[20-Sep-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: it's a planet with all the environment parameters (gravity, temp, pressure) within green range. meaning you don't need special materials to build there, just MCG [20-Sep-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: oh yes, the most convenient ones :) [20-Sep-23 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lexasaur3** left.* [20-Sep-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Benevolent.Discus** joined.* [20-Sep-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayneAlisdair** left.* [20-Sep-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bumv12** left.* [20-Sep-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Floatycake** joined.* [20-Sep-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***9ightt** joined.* [20-Sep-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3b5d8968c** left.* [20-Sep-23 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbf5d52587a** left.* [20-Sep-23 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: I see, Makes sense. 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Then what I can do with local markets? [25-Sep-23 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you have a Pro license, you can buy and sell on the local markets [25-Sep-23 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: but if you need stuff in a hurry its always better to fly with the ship to the closest market. i feel like local market is only good if you have a constant supply and demend [25-Sep-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uattrn2** left.* [25-Sep-23 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mokhtar** left.* [25-Sep-23 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aberkane** left.* [25-Sep-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoulKnight** joined.* [26-Sep-23 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrFoxy** joined.* [26-Sep-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrFoxy** left.* [26-Sep-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: The price of SF sure is going down alot lately [26-Sep-23 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Lots of new suppliers. Will still be a long time before it falls to the 7 / u when I started out :) [26-Sep-23 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neerio** left.* [26-Sep-23 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gogol** left.* [26-Sep-23 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: wait until we get that 25% efficiency bonus. I'm coming for that CoGC vote. [26-Sep-23 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: does the CoGC change when the market of the former CoGC campaign gets saturated? 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I need little staff from station but it is not that critical to go there with empty cargohold. I will be happy to take shipping contract :D [28-Sep-23 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wat2write** left.* [28-Sep-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: A new resource extraction expert arrived on your base at Benten - Katoa. \o/ [28-Sep-23 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: Congratulations :) [28-Sep-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ojaskale** joined.* [28-Sep-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Specsal** left.* [28-Sep-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***05Teko** left.* [28-Sep-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyoll** left.* [28-Sep-23 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ssuni** left.* [28-Sep-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrES-2b** joined.* [28-Sep-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Szuwar -- do you still have space? [28-Sep-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: Sure, i have empty cargohold on one ship in Katoa, You need some transport? 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While I respect the wish of the majority of course, I want to remind you, that I will put to costs for the cogc as higher tax on the benefiters of the campaign, like I do currently on the manufacturers. [02-Oct-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: The tax income <> upkeeps cost balance is ok at it's current state, with roughly the same income as I have to pay to stock up the upkeep and to run the needed programs. [02-Oct-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: If you want to have more detailed information about the current governmental situation, just contact me on UFO discord [02-Oct-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: I still couldn't get the Hydrogen from Extra Cheap Fuel Company, 20 minutes left for due time [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Hm... maybe something in his RL stopped him from getting online. [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Usually he is very reliable [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: quite possible, I'll extend the contract [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: never done it before so I dunno how can I do it [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: soon I'll step my foot on Benten - Umbra as my 2nd base \o/ [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Once the contract due run out of time you will get the choice to let it breach or to extend it. [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: ok thanks DasRallum [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: why Kato is always focused on Manufacturing? isn't Fuel Production more reliable there? [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: or even Chemistry [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Nice. I don't have a base ob Umbra yet. But I think it's a good planet for a second base, especially if you want to du fuel production or chemistry [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: We need a planet for manufacturing in benten, close to cx, since it keeps the costs for the consumables, like OVE or PT a little lower. And since Umbra is already focused on Chemistry and Fuel production, it's good to have an alternative [02-Oct-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: Gotcha [02-Oct-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: question, how does someone get buidliung matherial, for expansion? [02-Oct-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Online_** left.* [02-Oct-23 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: You mean materials that you can use for creating new buildings? [02-Oct-23 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: yes [02-Oct-23 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: you can buy these at Commodity Exchanges and/or post ads on localmarket (but I think that is restricted to licensed accounts) [02-Oct-23 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: so CX is your options [02-Oct-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: ok thank you [02-Oct-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: btw there is global help chat, you might get help there even quicker :) [02-Oct-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: good to know [02-Oct-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: I just got the game yesterday, so im still learning :) [02-Oct-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: and also if you didn't you can go through the tutorials (HELP upper right), it explains few things, including this one I believe [02-Oct-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: oh there is [02-Oct-23 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: thanks [02-Oct-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb439f76397** left.* [02-Oct-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***incognitomode22** left.* [02-Oct-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***angelva821119** left.* [02-Oct-23 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rothen** joined.* [02-Oct-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: Hello can someone sell me some Hydrogen at Katoa by contracts, I put a buy order already. [02-Oct-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: done [02-Oct-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: Thank you Scorpium! back to fuel producing :) [02-Oct-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Woohoo.. :) [02-Oct-23 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MinerMax555** joined.* [02-Oct-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yoshidan** joined.* [02-Oct-23 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: Also thanks again @Thoern o7 [03-Oct-23 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bob51505150** joined.* [03-Oct-23 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xephrax** left.* [03-Oct-23 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tsuki_Me** left.* [03-Oct-23 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krakho** left.* [03-Oct-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EN4TE** joined.* [03-Oct-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userca42f5c621** left.* [03-Oct-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrackheadYahtzee** left.* [03-Oct-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Miner_Lover** joined.* [03-Oct-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyrm** left.* [03-Oct-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2a6b510e80** left.* [03-Oct-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jehuti86** joined.* [03-Oct-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Safemancsp** joined.* [03-Oct-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vegstig** joined.* [03-Oct-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***urbn** joined.* [03-Oct-23 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Heads-up all: my pegging of AMM to 100 CIS/u has been broken at the CX. Plan accordingly. [03-Oct-23 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hydraling** joined.* [03-Oct-23 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xmariox** joined.* [03-Oct-23 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: I still have a cap of 200/u in place for AMM. I hope we don't hit it - well, except for the epic money I would make at that price [03-Oct-23 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: Someone is producing mats for buildings, new bases? [04-Oct-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: You can try to contact Inforiel. He sometimes has some spare building mats [04-Oct-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: Ok, thanks [04-Oct-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***M.Parker** joined.* [04-Oct-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1da143c574** left.* [04-Oct-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HashEM** joined.* [04-Oct-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biolaculos** joined.* [04-Oct-23 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HawkBlue** joined.* [04-Oct-23 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user21caf52f19** left.* [04-Oct-23 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae708333e7** left.* [04-Oct-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: H.AI1 [04-Oct-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: cool :D [04-Oct-23 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: H.AI1 [04-Oct-23 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekeMorrin**: cool :D [04-Oct-23 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: H.CI1 [04-Oct-23 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: H on BEN looks to be heading up :/ [04-Oct-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd122be60f0** left.* [04-Oct-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crimson_Viper** left.* [04-Oct-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9c935c1a65** left.* [04-Oct-23 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alight44**: we do produce STL, so [04-Oct-23 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: STL gang rising [04-Oct-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: PWO just put on LM a little under CX [04-Oct-23 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user22dd577913** left.* [04-Oct-23 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FishyFingers** joined.* [05-Oct-23 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thela.Astame** joined.* [05-Oct-23 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaayser** left.* [05-Oct-23 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: Why such a high manufacturing fee on Katoa? [05-Oct-23 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: because you have +25% bonus here for manufacturing [05-Oct-23 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: and nothing comes free of charge :) [05-Oct-23 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: That is fair. I did not know. New here :) [05-Oct-23 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: How is fee calculated? [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: fee for all types of production is decided by governor of that planet [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: Yes, that is clear. My question was how it is applied? I see manufacture fee set to 55 CIS. But order fee varies based on the output. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: Worth mention that current governoer of Katoa is open for discusion and sugestion. Some of that is taking place on UFO discord in Katoa-politics section. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: Figured out, it is per day of manufacturing. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: From what I remember fee stated in planet rules is for 24h cycle of production, so if your cycle takes 12h you will pay half of fee each time [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: My question was what 55 CIS means. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: It is 55 CIS for 24 hours of manufacturing. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: So, if job takes 1 hour it will cost me 2.30 CIS to start it. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: Yes. Thank you! [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: I think that exact formula is a bit more complicated, for example to incluce production with both piooners and settlers [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: Yeah. I get that. As newbie I have pioneers only, so will do for now. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: to be honest I just ignore this fee :) unless you are making some high end production where tax is set to 1k+ [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HashEM**: Right. It is not something that adds to output price much. [05-Oct-23 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: cost of consumables and fuel for transport will have much bigger impact on your production cost then fee [05-Oct-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pretense** joined.* [05-Oct-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fitz** deleted this message.* [05-Oct-23 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: H.CI1 that's a false floor look at the order book [05-Oct-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: don't get baited [05-Oct-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: actually it was small enough I just cleared it out [05-Oct-23 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: enjoy your 92 CIS hydrogen nerds [05-Oct-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Madpai** joined.* [05-Oct-23 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YouKnowMe_OO7** joined.* [05-Oct-23 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Britus** left.* [05-Oct-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***snaip** left.* [05-Oct-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ronann1** left.* [05-Oct-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZekeMorrin** left.* [05-Oct-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nerat** joined.* [05-Oct-23 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Anybody gonna have H for sale? I've got maybe 2 days left of inventory. My dumbarse just accidentally sold 700 thinking it was a sell contract xDDD [05-Oct-23 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Feel free to send contract or I'll check LM ads in morning [05-Oct-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere7edac3868** left.* [05-Oct-23 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jamaroverkill** left.* [06-Oct-23 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: if you put up a buy LM for up to 2k H, I can fill that. [06-Oct-23 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb2bf78178d** left.* [06-Oct-23 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Varcanna** joined.* [06-Oct-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Looks like SpaceX made his weekly rounds! Thank you though! [06-Oct-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I really need to get them ship upgrades and new base going xD [06-Oct-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NutrientPaste** left.* [06-Oct-23 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userab798726cd** left.* [06-Oct-23 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NGR_BOT** joined.* [06-Oct-23 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc523eb4812** left.* [06-Oct-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Just0M0liner0** joined.* [06-Oct-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balthazar** left.* [06-Oct-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gameover453** joined.* [06-Oct-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_GazeboLover** joined.* [06-Oct-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: I've just been in maintenance mode for a while D: Haven't had the time or energy to focus on expansion. [06-Oct-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: profitable shipping contract BEN station to Katoa on BEN LM [07-Oct-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wammoh** joined.* [07-Oct-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fjerdanmight** joined.* [07-Oct-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FVllNstvr31** left.* [07-Oct-23 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usereb85173f1a** left.* [07-Oct-23 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Huanlol** joined.* [07-Oct-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8d8421643d** left.* [07-Oct-23 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SkyCuz** left.* [07-Oct-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Booers** joined.* [07-Oct-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Szuwar**: I have idle ship on Katoa 500/500 with empty cargoholds waiting for charterer. 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[11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm sure H will be a bit better on Katoa once I get my second base going xD I keep scooping up about 3k per week off the LM [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Once I get my second base going I'll have my own supply instead of grabbing everyone elses! [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: man, LM H is so much cheaper! (too bad one needs to have been pro...) [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I wouldn't say it's normally cheaper. Each week I spend roughly the same as I would at the market. The real difference is not having to transport myself which is pretty expensive with default ships [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'm yet to spend more than 2k CIS per week on fuel, (with default ships), not rly sure what you mean by expensive (maybe it is, if you don't use your homemade fuel) [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: That's not bad honestly. I make an entire ships worth of fuel per day so I make frequent trips lol [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: *ship capacity worth per day [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: sell more on LM? [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: H or SF? [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: SF? [11-Oct-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I usually post 8,333 SF per day to market at .1 lower than the lowest price [11-Oct-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Oh on the LM sorry I didn't see that xD That's actually not a bad idea... would cost less time/fuel [11-Oct-23 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I meant so you don't have to transport it yourself [11-Oct-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I might have to do the math on that and think about it. There's usually others already selling on there so I guess it would depend on supply/demand [11-Oct-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I make over 8k per day so I'd probably clog up the LM ads lol [11-Oct-23 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, 8 1/3 k less on CX, moved to LM would just be moving the target too [11-Oct-23 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Maybe I'll do some trial runs and see how it goes :) [11-Oct-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: gl ~ [11-Oct-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: SpaceX puts out 3-5 contracts for 1000 SF and they seem to clear pretty regularly [11-Oct-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: above market price event [11-Oct-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: He's great too! Highly recommend dealing with SpaceX [11-Oct-23 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I don't mind paying a premium for his ads bc it's always consistent without issues [11-Oct-23 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: while we have a bunch of fuelies in chat... remember to vote for the CoGC fuel refining program [11-Oct-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: haha [11-Oct-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Done lol I always forget [11-Oct-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Though I usually throw a vote in for either both or fuel refining others have made good points why not to [11-Oct-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: too much fuel would bring the fuel prices down, as a small-time producer, I rather not see it happen :D [11-Oct-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: We are already at fuel lows where profit margins start to become breached. I'd like to see fuel rarely get below at least 12 [11-Oct-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (looking at nearly 160% efficiency on my single BMP is also way too fun) [11-Oct-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: with H.CI1 I'm surprised there's any profit to be made xD [11-Oct-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: time to NAB another recipe [11-Oct-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: H is just going through a phase I think. It's been sitting at ~100 for months until the last couple weeks [11-Oct-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I haven't looked into it, but I assume H prices are well below 100 at one of the other markets right now [11-Oct-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: last 2-3 weeks there has been major market upheavals for some commodities [11-Oct-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (PG, H, and I think it was one of the prefabs that had a lot of the offers swept up) [11-Oct-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Probably. I've been picking up a lot at work so I haven't had time to study markets the last month or so [11-Oct-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'm guessing it's related to the spike of scientists on Katoa (according to its POPI) [11-Oct-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: POPR * [11-Oct-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (probably why MEA skyrocketed too) [11-Oct-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: That would make sense [11-Oct-23 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, I'll be off, have a nice day o/ :) [11-Oct-23 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: See ya! You as well :) [11-Oct-23 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Respawn8389** joined.* [11-Oct-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EN4TE** left.* [11-Oct-23 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***turtel** joined.* [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera3015d14b1** left.* [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jasom3** left.* [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davik** left.* [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Meeep5** joined.* [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Meeep5**: yall think its worth it to build a collector and not buy ammonia? [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: i have a collector to supliment my ammonia supply but i still have to buy it every now and then [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Meeep5**: ok thanks [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: but yeah i think its worthit [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: Katoa is not a good place to produce AMM [11-Oct-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: especialy when we have Biogenesis in the same system wich is the 4th best place in the Universe to produce AMM [11-Oct-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ctrl-Alt-Delete** joined.* [11-Oct-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BookWorm02** joined.* [11-Oct-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***urbn** left.* [11-Oct-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xmariox** left.* [11-Oct-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WishDragon**: do planets move in their orbits? 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[12-Oct-23 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: command "FIN" [12-Oct-23 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: you can use FINLA buffer [12-Oct-23 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: if anyone needs a loan to bring some H production online send me a dm :) [12-Oct-23 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vegstig** left.* [12-Oct-23 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akaba** joined.* [12-Oct-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Astolfo90** joined.* [12-Oct-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rojobuzz** joined.* [12-Oct-23 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drakkor** left.* [12-Oct-23 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: is it worth using NAB for fuel production? and if so should i produce it myself or buy it from the market? [12-Oct-23 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: prunplanner says it's profitable (probably more profitable if you have more than 100% efficiency [12-Oct-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***grandel** left.* [12-Oct-23 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shiba.inu**: i produce it myself for example, but only because i have a base that can give me cheap resources, so i guess it's up to you and your possibilities [12-Oct-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: ok so I should produce the material my self. should i create a new base and make it there or just ship in the materials to katoa and make it here? [12-Oct-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM Buy 10 AL (1000/u) [12-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx [12-Oct-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlphaCosmoWolf** joined.* [12-Oct-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: aaaand PT.Ci1 [12-Oct-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: PT.CI1 [12-Oct-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: gj, whoever [12-Oct-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hkaYT** joined.* [12-Oct-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb2355c4499** left.* [12-Oct-23 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FishyFingers** left.* [13-Oct-23 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thela.Astame** left.* [13-Oct-23 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mirax** left.* [13-Oct-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainFoza** joined.* [13-Oct-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have room for 400t / 400 m3 going from BEN to Katoa, leaving in a few hours [13-Oct-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Madpai** left.* [13-Oct-23 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user393a98c8d5** left.* [13-Oct-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhiteCollar** joined.* [13-Oct-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Claythor** joined.* [13-Oct-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YouKnowMe_OO7** left.* [13-Oct-23 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pretense** left.* [13-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZackalJackal** left.* [13-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** left.* [13-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DuPont** joined.* [13-Oct-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** joined.* [13-Oct-23 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: anyone doing a Katoa-Gibson run. nice shipping contract on the LM for only 40t space [13-Oct-23 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have 400 t/m3 available going from katoa to umbra, leaving in 12 hours [13-Oct-23 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (or sooner, if my inventory gets filled) [14-Oct-23 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zaza** left.* [14-Oct-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wakanakalaka** joined.* [14-Oct-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Wakanakalaka**: how difficult is it to get money in this game? [14-Oct-23 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Wakanakalaka**: also are some companies run by AI [14-Oct-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jelbe** joined.* [14-Oct-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: afaik, no NPC companies (if that's what you meant) (if you exclude the 4 or so factions) [14-Oct-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: as for money, it gets easier the more money you have [14-Oct-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***donavan** joined.* [14-Oct-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nerat** left.* [14-Oct-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FinnIstGut** joined.* [14-Oct-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCruelWolf** joined.* [14-Oct-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elthalion** joined.* [14-Oct-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dworg** joined.* [14-Oct-23 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HooKed** joined.* [14-Oct-23 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: By AI if you mean, computer ran companies by users I would avoid bringing that up again in chat.. You can be perma banned and is generally looked down upon in the community. [14-Oct-23 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: But I assume you mean NPC as well which would be cool though kinda pointless. Some materials have high and low bands to keep prices in a range so to me that would be more effective without affecting others gameplay negatively [14-Oct-23 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***unclefoca** joined.* [14-Oct-23 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3fadd3b895** left.* [15-Oct-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Wakanakalaka**: Yea I was talking about actual NPC's [15-Oct-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Wakanakalaka**: but more prices for set items woul dbe good [15-Oct-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Wakanakalaka**: bandages I feel is overpriced [15-Oct-23 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***toxickotleta** joined.* [15-Oct-23 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***111smith111** joined.* [15-Oct-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orin_Fortissimo** joined.* [15-Oct-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ludere** left.* [15-Oct-23 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jehuti86** left.* [15-Oct-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delfar** joined.* [15-Oct-23 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elthalion** left.* [15-Oct-23 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DangerousMarker1010** joined.* [15-Oct-23 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wammoh** left.* [15-Oct-23 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aurelium** left.* [15-Oct-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Possessed_Chicken** left.* [15-Oct-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfbc5d5aad** left.* [15-Oct-23 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChuckVader** joined.* [15-Oct-23 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb2e7948a71** left.* [16-Oct-23 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***saturnnine** joined.* [16-Oct-23 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Just0M0liner0** left.* [16-Oct-23 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Onhix973** left.* [16-Oct-23 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elthalion** joined.* [16-Oct-23 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuxuryHagama** left.* [16-Oct-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***almost_gud** joined.* [16-Oct-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeoCGA** joined.* [16-Oct-23 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Booers** left.* [17-Oct-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shankhajit** left.* [17-Oct-23 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb782dcadf2** left.* [17-Oct-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: BSE and MCG order on LM if anybody's interested. Offering above market value [17-Oct-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Would save me another trip to Ben xD [17-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: couldn't do the bse :( [17-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Hopefully someone else! Thank you :) greatly appreciated [17-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I just sent both ships here literally an hour ago but apparently I forgot how to count lol [17-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: been there :P [17-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Had I seen your add earlier I could have picked them up from station. [17-Oct-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schb3rg** left.* [17-Oct-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: If I didn’t miscount I’d have shipped them myself πŸ˜…πŸ€£ [17-Oct-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I’m reconstructing getting a bit more SF production out of base [17-Oct-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: tore a bunch of stuff down and added a few others [17-Oct-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lummair** joined.* [17-Oct-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: what is the best way to produce FF in Katoa? [17-Oct-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Koya2**: from where could I get the HE3? [17-Oct-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: while not exactly close, Orm is a decent option for HE3 [17-Oct-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MONEYMAKER_2.0**: i import H.CI1 and made HE3.CI1 on site [17-Oct-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MONEYMAKER_2.0**: make* [17-Oct-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MONEYMAKER_2.0**: TS.CI1 to HE3.CI1 [17-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sky_Rey** joined.* [17-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Another 8 BSE order posted to LM at a higher price to be a bit more tempting xD [17-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: *more entising [17-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Heading out for kids soccer game, thanks in advance for anyone able to fill! :) [17-Oct-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: Selling 400 units of SF every 24hrs at 10.5 per unit if anyone is interested [17-Oct-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sky_Rey** left.* [17-Oct-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4754cde2d8** left.* [18-Oct-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chemotherapy** joined.* [18-Oct-23 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirSquid0** joined.* [18-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Put up an ad buying 20x AMM.CI1 at quite a bit above market rate, if anyone can help me out! [18-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: there you go [18-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Appreciate it! [18-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **caff**: Slacking on contracts gets me into trouble 😬 [18-Oct-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: think we have all managed that at some point! ;) [18-Oct-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hildron**: @Caboose1065 I sent you a private message [18-Oct-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: oh, shit. LTA.CI1 [18-Oct-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: someone gonna plop down a lot of software labs [18-Oct-23 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spitpenny** joined.* [18-Oct-23 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: someone needed a lot of LTA ! 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[19-Oct-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: SF, FF, PG, PWO [19-Oct-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***turtel** left.* [19-Oct-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well, with such success, putting another batch of PG up at the same price. 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[21-Oct-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: ad on Local market [21-Oct-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Necular_Fox**: Ty ty [21-Oct-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: no problem :) [21-Oct-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***speedingrocks** joined.* [21-Oct-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user51b153282f** left.* [21-Oct-23 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhiteCollar** left.* [21-Oct-23 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***POMIDORII** joined.* [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: someone, please sell me 2 LTA on BEN T.T [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: 3k each [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: on Ben?.. why not just buy at market [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: U rated [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I got you [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: Thank you! [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Cheers [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: oh. you got it from the super overpriced order... [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: still, thank you! [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya don't overthink and just take it lol [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Corp mate can just give me a discount later for doing it xDD [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (I had the money, just didn't want to feel like I splurged way too much on them xD) [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, at least now I'll be able to but the damn barracks down! [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Dang it! I actually forgot abou thtose and was just complaining that I have 60 wasted settlers lol [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: they save on area too [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'll mess around with them when I setup a base on biogenesis [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm currently at 996/1000 so not much room to move around [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: demolish one, build one? [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I've got just enough pioneer for my amount of HB1 so it's not quite that simple lol [21-Oct-23 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Once I setup biogenesis I'm demolishing 11 collectors here so I'll have room to play with area [21-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, with 60 extra settlers, 1 HB1 and 1 HB2 exchanged for 2 barracks leave you with some extra pio [21-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm to many drinks and to late into the night to think that much xD [21-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: xD [21-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, Cheers then! :D [21-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: and thanks again for the LTAs [21-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: np [21-Oct-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DuPont** left.* [21-Oct-23 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JesusChrist** joined.* [21-Oct-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaskedPlayer** joined.* [22-Oct-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dangerduck** left.* [22-Oct-23 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Claythor** left.* [22-Oct-23 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MH-Akash** joined.* [22-Oct-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zuioco** joined.* [22-Oct-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grandpa_Canuck** left.* [22-Oct-23 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user41a567654a** left.* [22-Oct-23 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: profitable in system shipping contract Katoa- Umbra on the LM [22-Oct-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: another in system BEN Station to Katoa up. 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[27-Oct-23 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: look out for PM [28-Oct-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: Second time I've managed to by HE instead of HE3 (β•―Β°β–‘Β°οΌ‰β•―οΈ΅ ┻━┻ [28-Oct-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have done that a few times too [28-Oct-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MONEYMAKER_2.0**: I just buy TS.CI1 [28-Oct-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: 3xHE will make HE3 :)) [28-Oct-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sfordox** joined.* [28-Oct-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***findley2009** joined.* [28-Oct-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plator** joined.* [28-Oct-23 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ekkelus** joined.* [28-Oct-23 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MatheusNDC** left.* [28-Oct-23 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Loco_tazz** left.* [28-Oct-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1d9fbfdb57** left.* [29-Oct-23 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crude276** left.* [29-Oct-23 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AaronY** joined.* [29-Oct-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MemeStealer** left.* [29-Oct-23 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercf300cd8d0** left.* [29-Oct-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Waphurus** left.* [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf88b3aa28d** left.* [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: 4 shipping contract up Katoa - Proxion - Katoa 2k each. round trip 8k total. [29-Oct-23 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Katoa-BEN station shipping run on the LM [29-Oct-23 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jardee** joined.* [29-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usereb8d21d9e7** left.* [29-Oct-23 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Great_Kahn** left.* [29-Oct-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilikemen67** joined.* [29-Oct-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lovell** joined.* [29-Oct-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56ec4d024a** left.* [29-Oct-23 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: If anyone has some AMM to spare, there's an small buy ad in the LM [29-Oct-23 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: fulfilled, thank you very much [29-Oct-23 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Glad to help [29-Oct-23 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Delivery run on Umbra LM from Umbra - Katoa [29-Oct-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pected** joined.* [30-Oct-23 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb36b20765c** left.* [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user568c0fa57c** left.* [30-Oct-23 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bludodge** joined.* [30-Oct-23 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user37a3342560** left.* [30-Oct-23 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rivermaster** joined.* [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd3be862474** left.* [30-Oct-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiong** joined.* [30-Oct-23 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Forstjori** joined.* [30-Oct-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5c57933b75** left.* [30-Oct-23 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DownyDark** joined.* [30-Oct-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whoc** joined.* [30-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lyssa** left.* [30-Oct-23 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordofthebees** left.* [30-Oct-23 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marfman101** left.* [30-Oct-23 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bentleyn935** joined.* [30-Oct-23 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shilerhobbs** joined.* [31-Oct-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user12f956b6fe** left.* [31-Oct-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4b9433d857** left.* [31-Oct-23 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***okatakab** joined.* [31-Oct-23 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theteluri** left.* [31-Oct-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***child** left.* [31-Oct-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamerage** joined.* [31-Oct-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gamingblitz227** left.* [31-Oct-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TigerClawsX** joined.* [31-Oct-23 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CKCanRun** left.* [31-Oct-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaskedPlayer** left.* [31-Oct-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lapryx** left.* [31-Oct-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usered11080ffc** left.* [31-Oct-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11ae8fa7c7** left.* [31-Oct-23 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fifa2412** left.* [31-Oct-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idontgrind** joined.* [31-Oct-23 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idontgrind** left.* [31-Oct-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user20f77ea7fa** left.* [31-Oct-23 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Agricultures** left.* [31-Oct-23 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahoy** joined.* [31-Oct-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EEW** joined.* [31-Oct-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***scriptwolf** joined.* [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: COT.NC1 [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: COT.NC2 COT.IC1 COT.AI1 [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: dem cotton so expensive. [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: it is the fruit of the loom, the breathable fabic [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: hm, moria is actually within jumping distance of BEN? did not know that (of the base ship) [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Volume of COT on the CX is pretty low, most folk just go the next step and make PWO [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: start their own COT base? [31-Oct-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I want to make PWO too! but there's just no cheap cotton xD [31-Oct-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well, how much do you need ? (I can let you have it a little below CX say 1500 ?) [31-Oct-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I got an order at 1510 already and if I had the cash I'd get at least 100 xD [31-Oct-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hehe, I have about 50 in stock at Katos. send a contract if you are interested [31-Oct-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'm free license T.T [31-Oct-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: thanks for offering tho [31-Oct-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I just wanted to complain a bit [31-Oct-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: no PM me if you get the cash to buy a batch I can send contract. [31-Oct-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: (ok) not no lol [31-Oct-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I can't accept contracts as a free user :/ [31-Oct-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: ah [31-Oct-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: how big's a batch? [31-Oct-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: dont have any at the station... yet [31-Oct-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (if you end up getting it to BEN eventually? [31-Oct-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: reasonable [31-Oct-23 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I mean how much money should I set apart from my next profitable trip to BEN :D (got a bunch of DW and HER ready to be sold) (or will, in about 1-4 days) [31-Oct-23 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'd definitely smile at 40-50 under 1550 [31-Oct-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***simdimdim** deleted this message.* [31-Oct-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: or is that just to act as a reminder? [31-Oct-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: blah blah: Your account is currently on a FREE license. Upgrade to PRO today to get unlimited access to all of APEX' features, including corporation management, foreign exchange trading and many more. A PRO license is also a prerequisite for a company rating which is required for access to restricted markets and private contracts. [31-Oct-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: hm, didn't even know we had restricted markets :D [31-Oct-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well that is writing contracts... I believe you can accept ones sent to you [31-Oct-23 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: nope, the button is locked, accepting is for Basic users [31-Oct-23 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: aah [31-Oct-23 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: yup [31-Oct-23 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well after 91 days of free play you have a good enough idea if you feel the game is worth 1 month of paring for it [31-Oct-23 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I was thinking on deciding around spring, (since that's how long I estimated I'd need to get up to HQ lvl 5) [31-Oct-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: tho, since I heard the devs would be doing stuff in steam, I'll see how stuff develop with the new player influx before deciding [31-Oct-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: reasonable. [31-Oct-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good luck [31-Oct-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: ty :) [31-Oct-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: and good night o/ (my production queues tell me it's time to sleep :D) [31-Oct-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol.\ [31-Oct-23 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (roughly 8h till I need to wake up to ship stuff to the CX) [31-Oct-23 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FormerlyDarth** joined.* [31-Oct-23 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dtmpro621** joined.* [31-Oct-23 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: im so new, lmao [01-Nov-23 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowWhiteG** joined.* [01-Nov-23 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowWhiteG**: hi [01-Nov-23 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: hello [01-Nov-23 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: Hi! [01-Nov-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: a few new players, Hello and welcome [01-Nov-23 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TigerClawsX**: hi all :) [01-Nov-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8cfaa72d57** left.* [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: How profitable is uhm, the fuel industry? [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: It is not the most profitable industry per unit. But every industry in this game is profitable if you manage your logistics effectively. [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: I s e e. [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: No one does on day 1 [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Follow the tutorial, don't be afraid to make mistakes. Ask lots of questions. If you screw up too badly, you just type "COLIQ" and start over. [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Even if you have already decided you want to change to a different starting industry, I would hang on a couple more days trying fuel so you can do more learning .... but just type COLIQ when you are ready to restart and you can switch industries. [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: Well, I'm a fuel producer. I assume I mine GAL, buy AMM and H to make SF and sell that to Benten Station [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Also, starting industry doesn't matter too much .... you will end up with multiple industries no matter what you start with. [01-Nov-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: On Katoa, you can build an Extractor for GAL, a Collector for AMM, and you buy H and HE3 on Benten Station. Sell SF and FF on Benten station. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: If you get pro license access (or if someone gives you a demo key), people will also periodically sell H and HE3 on the local market.....but dont' worry about that for now. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: The community here is the best part of the game, seriously, ask lots of questions. We will help you and make you successful. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: How scalable is uhm, fuel? [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: (Although this is not the best channel for rapid help....this channel is planet specific so it has fewer people than the general channel and the help channel). [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: Hmm. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: How scalable is fuel? I'm probably a bad person to ask .... I make 15K SF per day across my two fuel planets. Market has ample demand, but there are also a lot of suppliers. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: Requests are uhm, people looking to buy stuff off you for a price? [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: There are 2 people in the game that make more SF than I do right now, so don't think you need to be making anywhere near 15K per day in the near term. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: So, on Benten Market if you pull up the trading chart and pick the Fuel sub-tab, you will see the Ask and Bid prices. The Bid price is standing offers to buy at a certain price, the ask column is standing offers to sell at a given price. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Each of those has a quantity that are listed by the person who made that offer. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: I'm on the uhm [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: order book [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: And if you click on the Info, Chart, or Orders button for that good, you can see more market information such as volume traded in the last day, etc. Yep, orders shows which companies have offers listed right now. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: What are offers and requests? [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: In the order book -- Offers are goods listed for sale -- e.g. "Faster than Freight" has 5294 units of SF on the market that you can buy immediately for 11.20 each. [01-Nov-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Requests are offers to buy .... Prodigus is willing to immediately buy 2000 units at 10.60 each. [01-Nov-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: If I were to want to sell some of my SF right now, I could take Prodigus offer and get the 10.60 immediately .... or I could list it for say 11.00 and wait for someone willing to pay that price. [01-Nov-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: You should have just seen my offer pop into the list [01-Nov-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: STL for 11.00 CIS [01-Nov-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Technically SF -- Slower than light Fuel .... STL is a different commodity (Steel) which is a bit confusing. [01-Nov-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: Oh, ye. Lol [01-Nov-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirnaboii** left.* [01-Nov-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: I should place my offers or do request orders? [01-Nov-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: It depends -- do you need it now, or can you wait? [01-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: I can wait [01-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Whether buying or selling, you will get better prices if you can wait. Sometimes you need to do it fast (whether buying or selling) and have to take the offer on the market. But if you can wait, you'll get better pricing. [01-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilenceMastr** joined.* [01-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Other times the prices are so close together that it doesn't really matter [01-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: You can also sometimes end up in bidding wars with people (again on both of the buying and selling sides)....which can be fun at times and annoying at others. [01-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: What about your fuel? how much time does it take to sell? [01-Nov-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: That fuel that I just listed at 11, I would expect that to be gone in a couple of hours because it is such a heavily traded market. Other markets move much slower. This is where the "Chart" on the exchange can help you see volume and frequency of trades. Alright ... sorry but I've got to run for some real life family commitments. Great chatting with you, welcome to the game, and if you have more questions, just ask away and someone will answer. 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[03-Nov-23 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: sounds fine to me. ty [03-Nov-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ASlashTop** left.* [03-Nov-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: so i did like 1 hour calculations now for every single penny i have to pay and i gain. I got that i make 800/day/Refinery and 700/day/Extractor [03-Nov-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: that sounds really bad - any of you did the same to give me some perspective? [03-Nov-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i included costs/pioneer etc everything [03-Nov-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: even flight costs [03-Nov-23 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: also do you guys fill EVERY need of your workforce? [03-Nov-23 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Im calculating around 1600/day with 2xCollectors, 1xExtractor, 1xRefinery. thats including pioneer needs and hydrogen [03-Nov-23 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah would be almost the same with my numbers [03-Nov-23 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: if you produce Oxygen its like 2000 [03-Nov-23 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If im reading the Prun Planner right i should be able to get up 7k or so a day with another Col, Ext and Ref [03-Nov-23 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: nah you can 4x your win with double buildings. its not exponential [03-Nov-23 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: *cant [03-Nov-23 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Sorry should have added im running 79% eff right now [03-Nov-23 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah i calculated my winnings with 85% [03-Nov-23 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: my upgrade plans include actually getting settlers and running full supplies [03-Nov-23 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: 20% more effi will get you 20% more output+costs=20% more win [03-Nov-23 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: so double production + 2ß% = 4k max [03-Nov-23 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxFolder** left.* [03-Nov-23 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Think i was reading Prun wrong, my sheet is basic ;P. [03-Nov-23 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Prun says current production is 2,685.69 daily profit [03-Nov-23 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: up to 4,974.78 from double buildings and HB1/2 [03-Nov-23 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah but that with 100% effi and without transport costs etc [03-Nov-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: ill have to add the projection to my sheet to get someting better. I have been allocatting 300 fuel each "sell" cycle [03-Nov-23 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ahoy**: is Liquid Assets my current amount of cash I got? 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[04-Nov-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MONEYMAKER_2.0**: for private contracts and to use the lm [04-Nov-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (i have no BDE at the moment, but i can give you the MCG, but you'd need to be able to accept contracts) [04-Nov-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpiderBlinky** left.* [04-Nov-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoatDog** left.* [04-Nov-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sailor04** joined.* [04-Nov-23 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kevin.drew.abbott** joined.* [05-Nov-23 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Your_local_idiot** joined.* [05-Nov-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SharkyGrin** left.* [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: H.CI1 holy shit [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Oh wow lol [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Wondered how my orders got filled so quick xD [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: That sucks... these prices are gonna be screwed [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: there's not much H in the universe apparently :D (the scientists lied! :D) [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: There was quite a few orders on there not even an hour ago when I checked mine [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: wow, someone is flying around with 10k H right now [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya xD But makes sense if you knew who bought it [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: who was it? [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: That's not my place lol Someone top 20 SF makers [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Probably doing a monthly restock [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'm actually expecting SF price to go up [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i do with the order books were more open and transparent (same with LM ads) [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (with virtually no H on the market, people are not unlikely to panic and buy buy buy) [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i am slightly surprised there was only 10k H available on the market. i'm used to seeing the SF.CI1 market with casual 100k buy and sell orders [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: H has been slightly scarce since the beginning of Oct [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Well for us big time SF makers, it's a good thing. It drives prices of H and SF up and that's good for business. But I'm a proponent for keeping fuel prices lower xD [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm #13 in SF and #8 in H [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Top SF producers all have their own H taps, and most produce far [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: more H than they use. [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I rather see the opposite, high fuel prices, low for basic materials [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Issue is possibly the top SF producer appears to have quit a couple weeks ago. [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Keeping SF prices low keeps spots open on Katoa. I'm not part of the gov or anythign so none of the statistics of that stuff matters to me lol [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you have a specific price in mind when you say "keep fuel prices low" ? just curious [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: the current price probably matches the criteria [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (considering the current production costs come at around 10 CIS per unit) [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @I_am_Tex so you're saying it wasn't you that bought up the entire H order book? ;) [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Between 10-11 seems to be a sweet spot [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: The current price does. But I'm hoping it gets low enough to open a few base spots before shooting back up [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I like to see that rubber band [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Was not me. I make 100 more H per day than I use. And I will be building more COLs on my H tap this afternoon [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: "first thing in the evening" kind of thing? :D [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I still have plenty of room to expand my H tap but I'd be worried about logistics lol [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Yeah, the logistics kind of suck [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: time to grab that vol upgrade for the cargo hold [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I use about 33% of my total H tap production [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (on the n-th ship :D) [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I just pay someone to move my H for me xDD [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's tempting to think "i've got an idle ship, i can move my own stuff" but sometimes paying someone else is cheaper in both time and fuel costs [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: imagine someone goes to steal all that H with current market situation [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: My bank account is looking pretty snazzy after that H snag xDD But ya I feel what I pay is 100% worth it vs shipping myself [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: it stimulates the economy too :D [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I think I had 4-5k H on the market lol [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nice [05-Nov-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: If they had waited maybe another day I would've had another 3k xD Dang it [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: There are H sales on the LM right now…just FYI. [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the LM prices are reasonable too, i think [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: oh….so you know who bought it (unless you already deleted the filled orders) [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: The few that post on the lm are really good about pricing [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I can't logistically afford selling on the lm unfortunately [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sometimes you see bonkers pricing on the LM, though [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wish i could see if those ads ever get accepted, or if they just timeout [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: 135ppu isn't that great, is it? [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I bet the majority gets accepted [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i thought it was 120ppu for the H on the LM [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: I used to buy almost all my H from those ads until I built my own tap [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Same lol [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I was probably SpaceX's best customer for a couple months lol [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: bot very loyal :D [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: not* [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: lol shhh he was aware of my plans [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: speaking on LM... last night i picked up a buy order for 2000 GAL.CI1 for 16k CIS which seems crazy enough that it might have been a typo [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: they were buying GAL at 8CIS per unit? [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they were selling GAL [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: ah [05-Nov-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: lucky! :D [05-Nov-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexlu66** left.* [05-Nov-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OperatorChan** joined.* [05-Nov-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1e15eb5edf** left.* [05-Nov-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDoge** left.* [05-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WiId** joined.* [05-Nov-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Insteak** joined.* [05-Nov-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Insteak**: Btw does my company degrade over time like an animal crossing island? [05-Nov-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: no, but your buildings do [05-Nov-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: some need repairs, others don't [05-Nov-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: all ships need repairs too [05-Nov-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Insteak**: How do I buy the materials to build the habitation? [05-Nov-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Insteak**: Nevermind i had it in stock [05-Nov-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: You'll unlock different tabs (SCRN on top left) as you go through the tutorial. It will probably take a day or 2 [05-Nov-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I feel like I finished the tutorial in an hour or so [05-Nov-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: You have to complete various things that take awhile like finishing an order, sending a ship to the cx etc [05-Nov-23 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9481abb4fa** left.* [05-Nov-23 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plator** left.* [05-Nov-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user491af7652f** left.* [05-Nov-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: does anyone have a small amount of AMM? i've got an order up on the LM [05-Nov-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: many thanks [05-Nov-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueHeeler** deleted this message.* [05-Nov-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome. [05-Nov-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: how do you conduct planetary exploration? [05-Nov-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just fly somewhere and land on the surface [05-Nov-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: oh, i just didnt land lol [05-Nov-23 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: thx! [05-Nov-23 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackstoneGroup** left.* [06-Nov-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4afd8bf6c** left.* [06-Nov-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frigidos** joined.* [06-Nov-23 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RavenMage** joined.* [06-Nov-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user46f77c7e86** left.* [06-Nov-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drekky** left.* [06-Nov-23 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilikemen67** left.* [06-Nov-23 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc79ea5ecf6** left.* [06-Nov-23 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user60734127f9** left.* [06-Nov-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheeBlackOut** joined.* [06-Nov-23 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AaronY** left.* [06-Nov-23 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: hello! [06-Nov-23 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘‹ [07-Nov-23 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ill_3** left.* [07-Nov-23 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: can anyone explain to me what happened to the hydrogen price? i have 240.000 cis and think about building a second base to collect hydrogen because of that [07-Nov-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: buying 12k H and emptying the market does that to prices [07-Nov-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd2ce6da825** left.* [07-Nov-23 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn its destroying my economy [07-Nov-23 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: Damn scalpers [07-Nov-23 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VincentEpsilon** joined.* [07-Nov-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: anyone knows a good planet for hydrogen production? best i can find is Antares2 [07-Nov-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: CB-282d is one of the best and not stupily far away from katoa. [07-Nov-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: as always Logistics will be the biggest challange [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn also the base on CB costs 240k while antares is only 130k [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: looks like that hydrogen price is simply going to screw me over lol [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: H was already the biggest cost in SF production. It has now more than doubled in price in about a month. If we keep meming it up and pricing out people who have to buy their H for fuel production things could get wacky. [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i am thinking about stockpiling my fuel now and wait for its price to go nuts [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: let SF get back up to 12+ [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: 12? how about 18 [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: this will royally fck economy over [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: saw it at 12 when I first started. never seen it at 18.... yet lol [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: anyone knows how that happened? i thought maybe a big producer stopped playing or something [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: diversify if you can [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Katoa is an awesome manufacturing base [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i am fully committed to fuel sofar lol [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: it keeps rising thou - i am sure it willl vbreak 250 [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yea, at that price more folk will open up H facilities and it will come back down [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: BTW, looking to buy another small amount of AMM from the local market. because i'm bad at this game, i've let my refineries run dry :( [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i built entire spreadsheets to prevent this, but *surprise* it did not prevent this [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: many thanks @JamesHart [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: np. [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: my COGM for H shipped to the CX is like 30 CIS... it prints money even at 90 [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: cogm? [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: cost of goods manufactured [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a computed stat that you can see in prun planner (or you can calculate it yourself) [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn wher are you producing that cheap [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: CB-282d like people were saying. It's cracked. [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn i need a miracle to get the needed investment [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user14edcc200a** left.* [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: actually not a bad idea. open up on Umbra cheap setup. not the best H production but steady. when you can afford to go to CD-292d convery Umbra to a chemical plant make PG which is a very nice product [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: that's a really good idea. saves you the FF overhead too for getting started [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: and saves you from having to buy AEF which hurts really bad right now [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there are no banks, but there are loan contracts. so you just gotta find someone who's willing to lend you money :) [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: sometimes another player will extend a loan contract. but as in RL you need to be able to pay it back. and if your only production is fuel.... not sure you could [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: im doing loans if you need one just pm me :) [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah lemme calculate some stuff and then i might hit you up :) [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i have almost 300k after i sell everything so i will not need too much [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good position to be in [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah a week ago i was about to build more refineries and extractors lol [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: that would have ruined me now [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: do building cost more on different planets or is it only the base that varies in materials? [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: someone just cleared my H sell at 188 god bless πŸ’Έ [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i did haha [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: listed for all of 15 minutes [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i nowe got supplies for 40 days [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: when I saw the order book was empty yesterday I tried to pin it at a more reasonable 150 but that one cleared immediately too [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah dont do that - looking at the quick rise of buy orders and the volume that was bought right before the market went crazy is a safe indication of the price just starting to rise [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: someone bought 10x the normal daily volume in one day [07-Nov-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: well when I did that the other CXs were still around 150 so I figured either producers or transporters would come in and put it there anyway [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: but now all the other CXs have run on H too [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: great - future millionaire haha [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn you only play for 44 days? [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: how did i manage to play so badly for my 200+ days [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: I took the first loan I could find [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: everything is so profitable, capital is OP [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: I also did arbitrage with my ships during downtime, which often produced mor money than actual production [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the nice thing about this game is that you can often be profitable even when selling at MM prices. it makes for a very relaxed game, if you want that [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah i did that for most of my time here - its very chill but also everything takes several times as long [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Warrior_605** joined.* [07-Nov-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: way more chill than EVE where you'd be terrified of losing your ships everytime you jumped into a new system ;) [07-Nov-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: that is, unless all you do is mine in highsec while trading at a nearby trade hub [07-Nov-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: true. my friends were assholes and brought me instantly into nullsec as soon as i bought the game [07-Nov-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: they were just the fighting kind it seems [07-Nov-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: PvE and trading are quite tame in EVE imo [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i played that for like 5 days solo and then ragequit haha [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: hardly enough time to learn any skills, is it [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yea after finally being able to get a great freight ship I had it destroyed by a ah*l after 2 jumps. no interest in doing that again. this is a far better game when you are not 100% into killing everything about you [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, over here the worst that could probably happen to you is to buy high and sell low(by mistake) [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah i understand where the game comes from but i would wish there to be a game like EVO that is more realistic when it comes to battle-consequences so that people are not that aggressive [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: or forget to load your ship before sending it away from a CX [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: lol no i actually nearly went bankrupt once [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: that's a possibility? [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i didnt know about building durability and got to a point where i am loosing money every day without noticing - when i noticed i was almost bankrupt [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: that cost me like 30 days to get back on my feet [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: how does ah, that's just consequences of not playing hard enough :D [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: and it's not like you lose money if you don't use the buildings :D [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yep. PRUN you can build something and know that months of design and effory isnt going to have some 12 year old destroy everything for giggles. [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah but you are loosing mone yif you use them actually [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: since my folks were eating lot lol [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I doubt 12yo have the capital to fly anything that can destroy you tho :D [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: unless you mean 12yo accunt :D [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: account* [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: you underestimed todays 12yo [07-Nov-23 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: they are ruthless and focussed when it comes to that [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: the only way I can imagine it happening is if it's the 12yo of an old-time player :D [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah - daddy trained his little farming-bot well [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: hh [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: in EVE a very low level cheap righter can destroy freighters quite easily [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: still meant that a 12yo couldn't have had enough time to play to be able to buy a ship capable of easily trashing others [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: our definitions of cheap differ then :D [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: aaah. fair enough [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (tho considering PLEX prices as I remember them, that's not unlikely :D) [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: for the trade oriented personality (and spreadsheet aholic's) PRUN is a far better setup imo [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: you do know EVE is nicknamed 'spreadsheets in space' right? :D [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: thought that was PRUN's nickname lol [07-Nov-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol, yep you are correct. just looked that up [07-Nov-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: EVE's definitely more spreadsheets imo [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: im to lazy to ship my 8k H from CB to the CX [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: double H price means 50% increase in Fuelprice [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: H.CI1 prices won't always be this high, i think they'll come back down [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: if oxygen wouldnt be that more profitable i would probably produce that haha [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i should have built there instead of umbra [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (umbra is not that bad, COGM for H is 50CIS) [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (but could be better) [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: funny enough, H is an input to AEF too [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unfortunately i'm still paying off the big loan i took out to pay for my umbra base :) [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: wait i can take loans? [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: how do i get more ships? [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: first, you get PRO [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: then you build them [07-Nov-23 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: how expensive are they? probably like a milion or something, right? [07-Nov-23 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: no clue [07-Nov-23 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: it depend on the ship you want to build im not to familliar with CX prices but a 500t/mΒ³ STL only ship will start at about 850k-1m while 2000t/mΒ³ FTL ships will cost 4.5m-5.5m [07-Nov-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: btw, do you know if free users can upgrade ships too? [07-Nov-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: the ship auctions are currently at about 4.5mil. BUT, that is a seriously nice ship [07-Nov-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: damn [07-Nov-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: hey so my last question for now: i have all the materials for a new base in my ship and a extra permit - what now [07-Nov-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: do i fly to that planet with the ship? [07-Nov-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/current-tutorials/09-second-base/index.html {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/current-tutorials/09-second-base/index.html 09 - Your Second Base :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [07-Nov-23 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: yeah iu watched that video twice and he doesnt say that [07-Nov-23 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: he is just explaining what you need and why you need it [07-Nov-23 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: once you have all the base components fly with them to the planet. Open the planet info screen and 'Start BASE' [07-Nov-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'd assume you need to have them available in some sense [07-Nov-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: either on your ship or a local warehouse [07-Nov-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ah ok thx james [07-Nov-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: @James, does orbit work too? [07-Nov-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: launching my ship for my second base - i gotta admit i am a little nervous and proud lol [07-Nov-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: took me a long time to get there haha [07-Nov-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: 3rd base is when you get laid :D [07-Nov-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: uuuh lemme tell that to my gf [07-Nov-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hmmm... I think IO've always landed when building out a base... not sure if that is compulsory or not though [07-Nov-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: dont worry Flashbong. it is almost always guaranteed you will miss something. I have found I always do lol [07-Nov-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: like forgetting to load the ship with all the materials? :D [07-Nov-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: what was the command for looking for a planet fitting some requirements? [07-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: nvm, found what was I looking for [07-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: people here talking like in the late 2000s right before the black friday - hydrogen price is going mayham but everyone is like "nah bro there is no way the economy is gonne fail" [07-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blanko1230** joined.* [07-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: well when prices go up, it encourages folk to go make that product till prices come back down. [07-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: you just need to be flexable [07-Nov-23 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gh0st0** joined.* [07-Nov-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***No_Bitches** joined.* [07-Nov-23 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DownyDark** left.* [07-Nov-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YeetTheChild** joined.* [07-Nov-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SerbianH2O** joined.* [07-Nov-23 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pilotcandyman** left.* [07-Nov-23 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***side2show** joined.* [08-Nov-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AllyxRosewood** joined.* [08-Nov-23 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frogztar** joined.* [08-Nov-23 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackbiter** left.* [08-Nov-23 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think i'm about to have an empty ship (500 t/m3) at BEN that can take things to either katoa or umbra. let me know if you need anything shipped [08-Nov-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: anyone here willing to give a 200k cis credit? [08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blodregent** joined.* [08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: how does one increase satisfaction? im at 0 [08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you mean for your workforce? [08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: open the workforce window and make sure that all your workers have, at a minimum, their essential needs met (like drinking water, rations, etc) [08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: 0% everything. welp, to the extange XD [08-Nov-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: wait, everything essential? cuz i have so many things required, i just got hthe prefab plant... maybe thats why [08-Nov-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you might not have any workers for a given class [08-Nov-23 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the top row ("Workforce Size / Capacity") tells you how many of that class of workers you have [08-Nov-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: ya i only have pioneers [08-Nov-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: kinda didnt see i needed, i think settlers [08-Nov-23 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: nope, prefab is pioneer, so idk [08-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yup, so you need DW, RAT, and OVE [08-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: COF and PWO are optional, but are generally worth buying [08-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: okie dokie, thank you, would have never looked there 🀣 [08-Nov-23 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you should aim to keep satisfaction has high as possible [08-Nov-23 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if it hit zero, it will take your workers *much* longer to produce things, meaning less income [08-Nov-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: they say halfted rn, luckly i think even with travel to extange, i think ill still make a contract deadline [08-Nov-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: good luck! [08-Nov-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: thx very much [08-Nov-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and welcome [09-Nov-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: what is the benifit of joining a cooperation? [09-Nov-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: is it even worth it [09-Nov-23 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: There are two benefits I know: 1. You often have cheaper and more easy access to everything you may need. 2. It is more fun to cooperate with people. [09-Nov-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UNTERCOMMANDER** deleted this message.* [09-Nov-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UNTERCOMMANDER** deleted this message.* [09-Nov-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UNTERCOMMANDER** deleted this message.* [09-Nov-23 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: what are the production fees for [09-Nov-23 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: what can the govornment do with it? [09-Nov-23 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: or is it a cooperation [09-Nov-23 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DasRallum** deleted this message.* [09-Nov-23 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I need to use the taxes to pay the upkeep of the population infrastructure and other stuff. Without this upkeep the worker would run away from this planet [09-Nov-23 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: interesting [09-Nov-23 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: unlike large corporations on Earth, PRUN pompanies need to have happy workers [09-Nov-23 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: because we dont have a government that is making rules [09-Nov-23 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MONEYMAKER_2.0** left.* [09-Nov-23 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TreeLover69** left.* [09-Nov-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leland_Manigo** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gunman5275** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abdullah1** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Manfart012** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c146d7278** left.* [09-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChipsetCharlie** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BerryBox** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R4idenW4sT4ken** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BGhead** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeedious** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mituks** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MagnaCarter48** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gogo100** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Depress0** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***riojohnston** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Killer_8378** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EliteNoobNZ** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Surplus** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***some_britishguy** joined.* [09-Nov-23 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cleanmystic123** joined.* [09-Nov-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SquintyNips** joined.* [09-Nov-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Diavol** joined.* [09-Nov-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragon718** joined.* [09-Nov-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Julienette** joined.* [09-Nov-23 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pencil342** joined.* [09-Nov-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaffyD23** joined.* [09-Nov-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mizzo02** joined.* [09-Nov-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Colbycow** joined.* [09-Nov-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: wow, DW.CI1 had its sell book cleared out, we're now buying from the market maker [09-Nov-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Well then... +30 plots in just a few hours [09-Nov-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RasTacsko** joined.* [09-Nov-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***K1MJUN** joined.* [09-Nov-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WARRIOR_LF** joined.* [09-Nov-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WARRIOR_LF**: hi [09-Nov-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WARRIOR_LF**: one question.I have to pay if I want the max experience of this game? [09-Nov-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: after a 18 months + playing you should have an idea if you would feel it is worth paying something for. Pro accounts have advantages, but as you have likely already seen it is helpfull. not essential. Get one month paid and go to basic license after if it is not all you are looking for [09-Nov-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoidIndustries** joined.* [09-Nov-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: personally I had no problem paying towayds keeping the servers online and the programmers for their effort. 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[10-Nov-23 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Katoa is a busy place [10-Nov-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all the cool kids hang out here [10-Nov-23 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: well this is in my opinion the best planet to start on for fule production. [10-Nov-23 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tommyw** joined.* [10-Nov-23 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***patoman** joined.* [10-Nov-23 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I definitely like the market over here [10-Nov-23 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: the other ones look more boring [10-Nov-23 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: boringer*? [10-Nov-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UNTERCOMMANDER**: more boring [10-Nov-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***holb** joined.* [10-Nov-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MukeshAmbani** joined.* [10-Nov-23 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Traxzeroar** joined.* [10-Nov-23 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackknight24** left.* [10-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***basically_a_gungan** joined.* [10-Nov-23 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: people, you find yourself in desperate need for BBH.CI1, and proceed to satisfy it [10-Nov-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: happy to see the downward price trend [10-Nov-23 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrPoos** joined.* [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: anyone know why I can't click the production tile in my base tile? [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: refresh page? [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: I'll try but it's blanked out and when I hover above it there's the x symbol. [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I think it's usually yellow/orange buttons that are clickable [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: BS>View Base>Production, that's your path, right? [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: yep [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: not a clue then :/ [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: only 3 things come to mind, some sort of planetary event, like a strike, that's preventing production, being the most likely one [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: oh, but considering you're at the same place as me, that's not it [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: do you actually have something built yet? [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (a building capable of production) [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Bluetaco what if you open a buffer with the PROD command -- does that let you view your production lines? [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: checking [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: illegal command [10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ...? 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[11-Nov-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoodPasi** left.* [11-Nov-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: C.CI1 on the rise again [11-Nov-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drake_Griffinheart** joined.* [11-Nov-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ospf2fullstack** joined.* [11-Nov-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vgold** joined.* [11-Nov-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KamelKisser** left.* [11-Nov-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hutten7** joined.* [11-Nov-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VerdeV** left.* [11-Nov-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M4ND4RiM** joined.* [11-Nov-23 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phoenix10131** joined.* [12-Nov-23 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lonbonan** joined.* [12-Nov-23 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeHstStange** joined.* [12-Nov-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***benvanlooij** left.* [12-Nov-23 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMaCraft** joined.* [12-Nov-23 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***So_bad_its_good** joined.* [12-Nov-23 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***So_bad_its_good** left.* [12-Nov-23 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goliaten** joined.* [12-Nov-23 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***basically_a_gungan** left.* [12-Nov-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***that7dude** left.* [12-Nov-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: BBH.CI1 just 200 left! quickly, snap them up~ [12-Nov-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: one day too late - i bought 42 yesterday [12-Nov-23 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: well, nobody's stopping you from getting some more :D [12-Nov-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: only 130 left now~ [12-Nov-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aimzieslol** joined.* [12-Nov-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thefrimpf** joined.* [12-Nov-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i have a credit-contract that is due tomorrow - if i fulfill the payment now, will the timer for the next payment start now or tomorrow? [12-Nov-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: it will start now [12-Nov-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: ok thank you [12-Nov-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Omegapl**: @flashbong if you have enough money on your account it will also take the money automatically from your account [12-Nov-23 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: You can buy stuff on credit? [12-Nov-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you can take loans [12-Nov-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: from my understanding there are contracts that ask for delivering of some goods, followed by a payment, that's pretty much on credit, no? 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I always lock them [12-Nov-23 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: I'd be more interested in a deposit system [12-Nov-23 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sailor04** left.* [12-Nov-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiogenesGreene** joined.* [12-Nov-23 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kevin.drew.abbott** left.* [12-Nov-23 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***potatoking5612** joined.* [13-Nov-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MisterDaVinci** joined.* [13-Nov-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Youripito** joined.* [13-Nov-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yuen** left.* [13-Nov-23 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: uh i got a rating finally [13-Nov-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: woohoo :) [13-Nov-23 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Muzakkir** joined.* [13-Nov-23 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ingzikmund** joined.* [13-Nov-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: anyone selling AMM for a reasonable price on local? [13-Nov-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: what is reasonable price for you? :) [13-Nov-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: like 105 [13-Nov-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: since people even save the trip costs i really dont get those huge mark ups. who the fck is paying that [13-Nov-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: well that is fair price. we can arrange something [13-Nov-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigTurk_Holding** joined.* [13-Nov-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shock12** left.* [13-Nov-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: i could buy 300 for that price [13-Nov-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vibinggg** joined.* [13-Nov-23 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jtpolar** joined.* [13-Nov-23 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OperatorChan** left.* [13-Nov-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WiId** left.* [13-Nov-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thane-Stus** joined.* [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc39cf762ad** left.* [13-Nov-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: aaah, so hard to get rid of those BBH.CI1 I shouldn't have bought 172 of them on MOR T.T [13-Nov-23 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LegitFetus** joined.* [13-Nov-23 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nine.One** joined.* [14-Nov-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: easiest way to get rid of something is to lower the price ;) [14-Nov-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThatWontFitOwO** joined.* [14-Nov-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zoro3478** left.* [14-Nov-23 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Annihilation500** joined.* [14-Nov-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dareth** joined.* [14-Nov-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dareth** left.* [14-Nov-23 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dchepak** joined.* [14-Nov-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: block that is [14-Nov-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: *so hard to get rid with a big win* lol [14-Nov-23 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morbidfogger** joined.* [14-Nov-23 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalkyRaptor** joined.* [14-Nov-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JPGordon** joined.* [14-Nov-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: do you guys produce or buy your basic consumables? [14-Nov-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: A lot of people work on building their own supply chains. Obviously you can never supply everything in house so you will always need to purchase some things from other players. Once you get big enough you will find that you can afford the structure to build far more profitable products and use the space you use to build basics for better things and just buy those basics from others. [14-Nov-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: When I started on Katoa I made my own RAT/DW up until recently [14-Nov-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: nice. Katoa is a great starting location [14-Nov-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: for my own production, consumables are a pretty small part of my overall costs so I've been happy to simply buy them. try messing around on prunplanner to see what the costs/savings/roi would be like for producing your own [14-Nov-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsCheez** joined.* [14-Nov-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: oh, someone gobbled up the COF.CI1 [14-Nov-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Door** joined.* [14-Nov-23 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EpicJames** joined.* [14-Nov-23 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hello341** joined.* [15-Nov-23 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: how much woul drinking water, rations and overalls cost per piece? [15-Nov-23 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: i thought it was kinda a lot, working on making my own things too support my consumables [15-Nov-23 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dtmpro621**: just to make it cheaper. 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[15-Nov-23 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Your_local_idiot just posted an ad on the katoa LM [15-Nov-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Green_rider** joined.* [16-Nov-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hoboman** left.* [16-Nov-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***side2show** left.* [16-Nov-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user92c176c573** left.* [16-Nov-23 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***No_Bitches** left.* [16-Nov-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Insteak** left.* [16-Nov-23 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: nobody wants expensive DW :< [16-Nov-23 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mi0taurus** left.* [16-Nov-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***b.meinhardt06** left.* [16-Nov-23 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calico_Disaster197** joined.* [16-Nov-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frogztar** left.* [16-Nov-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aethius** joined.* [16-Nov-23 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: heck, COF.CI1 has gotten expensive. maybe i need to introduce my workers to TEA instead [16-Nov-23 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: elementary dear eminence elementary.. [16-Nov-23 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if anyone needs 100 t/m3 transferred from BEN to katoa, let me know soon. leaving in a few hours and flying overnight. [16-Nov-23 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ryst**: I'm ramping up some COF production. So, hopefully will be helping in the near future... [16-Nov-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: \o/ [16-Nov-23 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rove_Keelin** joined.* [17-Nov-23 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: how do you check your balance? [17-Nov-23 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: nvm [17-Nov-23 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluetaco**: does anyone have a corp I can join? [17-Nov-23 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: You can check on UFO discord. there are some corps listed. [17-Nov-23 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Our corp has some requirements, like 30 days ingame and basic license at least. But maybe there are other corps with lower requirements. 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left.* [19-Nov-23 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: I just realized, with atmospheric ammonia all of Katoa smells a little like piss [19-Nov-23 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yum [19-Nov-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xixiyue** joined.* [19-Nov-23 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1188181c82** left.* [19-Nov-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phoenix10131** left.* [19-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Summerblood** joined.* [20-Nov-23 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2f709a7d98** left.* [20-Nov-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CookieCrumbz** left.* [20-Nov-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kitencjum** joined.* [20-Nov-23 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMaCraft** left.* [20-Nov-23 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***M4ND4RiM** left.* [20-Nov-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lonbonan** left.* [20-Nov-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tjabbfisk** left.* [20-Nov-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***semvandelft** joined.* [20-Nov-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userefe6af17b3** left.* [20-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 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don't understand the context of this statement [21-Nov-23 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **kittoneko**: piss planet [21-Nov-23 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kindling**: There is likely a lot of AMM around, maybe someone's storage tank sprung a leak. That might explain the smell? [21-Nov-23 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **kittoneko**: ammonia in the air [21-Nov-23 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb3023c0e25** left.* [21-Nov-23 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GurAtol** left.* [21-Nov-23 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cotse78** left.* [21-Nov-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gur_Atol** joined.* [21-Nov-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kittoneko**: i can feel it comming in the air tonight [21-Nov-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kittoneko**: the ammonia [21-Nov-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CyberPeasant** joined.* [21-Nov-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera55c2b2c86** left.* [21-Nov-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goliaten** left.* [21-Nov-23 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Molotow** left.* [21-Nov-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: smells like kombucha and urine out here [21-Nov-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Yes, that is the smell .... of .... PROFIT [21-Nov-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigTurk_Holding** left.* [21-Nov-23 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: can't decide what's better S.CI1 or AMM.CI1 [21-Nov-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bigfoot907** joined.* [21-Nov-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drundek** joined.* [21-Nov-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usereb4a1cf3f5** left.* [21-Nov-23 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drundek** left.* [21-Nov-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bruhhhh** joined.* [21-Nov-23 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TalinPeacy** left.* [21-Nov-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user72392182e5** left.* [21-Nov-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vibinggg** left.* [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: hello [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hamsys42** deleted this message.* [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: i can't fulfill my contract , i m in the good station , the fulfill is green but they don't work [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: i have test with the shipment in my ship and in my warhouse [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: are you in orbit or did you land [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: i m in station and the shipment is in warhous on the station [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: look at the contract and make sure you are at the correct destination [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: Benten Station (Benten) and the shipment is at Benten Station (Benten). the fulfill buton is green and when i clic they say " action succeeded" but .. nothing the shipment is always in my warhouse [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: is the contract to deliver some good to another player? [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: yes [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the other player might not have inventory space [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hmmm... perhapse the interface is glitching, that does happen at times. I have occasionally needed to refesh my browser [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you see anything like "fulfillment attempted" anywhere in the contract window? [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: fulfillment attempted in window of contract [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: the other player might not have inventory space . this idea is great ^^ i wait for the client [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: is that the one you picked up from me ? [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **hamsys42**: your contract is on way but for the moment no probleme [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: oh, ok. no worries, just wanted to be sure I was not causing you a problem :D [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: 2 days left on that one [21-Nov-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hrm. prunplanner's FIO connection doesn't seem to work on this browser :( [21-Nov-23 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user400d8890bf** left.* [22-Nov-23 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0df92f9fa3** left.* [22-Nov-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***M3NT4L_NINJA** joined.* [22-Nov-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ergoglobe** joined.* [22-Nov-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dchepak** left.* [22-Nov-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***-Paul-** joined.* [22-Nov-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belette** joined.* [22-Nov-23 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WungChin**: can someone post a buy order for fuel that inst 10k and not half the normal price? 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I filled an order at 200 CIS myself [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: H was the one that somebody absolutely cleared out the offers wasn't it? [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: yeah the sell book was literally empty [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: actually could not buy it a CI1 [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya I think I was a day late to hit that too. I remember my H being on the way xD [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: I've hit a lot of bottlenecks trying to scale H production. Even the construction materials have shot up. And after overcoming that I'm now at a shipping bottleneck, and I know some other producers are too [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya... That's my only worry about scaling H prod. I'm about to max out my H base but I am worried about keeping circulation in and out lol [23-Nov-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dnd.locus** joined.* [23-Nov-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfgp** left.* [23-Nov-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MDyn** joined.* [23-Nov-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***1221_Trooper_1221** left.* [23-Nov-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user27c24b34f0** left.* [23-Nov-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingHU3BR** joined.* [23-Nov-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsMeDarai** left.* [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user849f08a97d** left.* [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: So I see there are elections for government, but the only candidate is the same person who is in office atm [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: Dictatorship? [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: anyone can put their hat in the ring. you get voted in. it is expensive :D [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: nobody else wants to do it :D [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I was gonna say you gotta be a special kind of special to voluntarily want to be governor xDD Especially on a big planet like Katoa [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: imo the boss is doing a fine job so far [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Very, can't disagree :) [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: amazing, first time seeing SF.CI1 under 10.0 [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Those couple big orders around 10 must've been taken out. Won't go much lower at the moment though [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: or rather filled, considering the SF chart [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: That's what meant by taken out lol Thankfully there's a big order at 9.5 that will take awhile to fill. 7.5 is a bit to low [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: and that's even without a fuel GoGC :D [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: CoGC* [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: We've got one in the JS sector but I think that's it [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: people are just not flying enough :D [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya! Let's crack the whip and get them ships in the air lol [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (insystem) [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: FF not suffering same fate [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya FF is fairly stable at the moment [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: imma swap out my sole refinery for something else with prices like that [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm sitting over here with 12 refinery's xDD [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: *15 [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Once I up my H and AMM production I'll probably open up a second fuel refining planet with matching CoGC. But that won't be for another month or 2 [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm in no hurry with these low prices... [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: considering how fast fuel prices move, I'd say it'll be at least another 3 before it maybe becomes more profitable again [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya it seems about a 90 day cycle. Drops below 10 for a bit then goes back up above 12 for a bit [23-Nov-23 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EpicJames** left.* [23-Nov-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: prunplanner says SF COGM on katoa is 8.52 unless you're mining your own H. not a lot of head room there if we're closing in on 9.50 selling price [23-Nov-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: FF.CI1 is already negative ROI at average CX prices... [23-Nov-23 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LemonMan** left.* [23-Nov-23 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mako64**: It's a tough economy for a new player trading fuel [23-Nov-23 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KingHU3BR**: i regret starting to play as a fuel trader [23-Nov-23 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KingHU3BR**: literally started today and found this [23-Nov-23 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KingHU3BR**: Is there anyway to start from zero? [23-Nov-23 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowKnights** joined.* [23-Nov-23 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Use the "COLIQ" command [23-Nov-23 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: I also started with fuel this week lol [23-Nov-23 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: What would be a good alternative? [23-Nov-23 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: On Katoa, the only two starts I can recommend are Fuel and Manufacturing. And as noted, fuel is currently under some pricing pressure here [23-Nov-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: If you are willing to go to a nearby system β€” Agriculture on Proxion or Construction on Gibson are alternatives. But we would miss you on Katoa. [23-Nov-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***I_am_Tex** deleted this message.* [23-Nov-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: Lol I barely can manage flying to the station, much less another system [23-Nov-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Fuel on the other exchanges doesn’t seem to have dropped (yet). Some traders hauling to them might help our oversupply here. [23-Nov-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mako64**: I don't want to restart quite yet, learning quite a bit atm [23-Nov-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mako64**: will just have to cross my fingers that prices improve by the time i'm ready to ship fuel to benton [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Jumps to very nearby systems can actually be faster than travel within a system. [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: @I_am_Tex thx for the tip tho, Im gonna stay here and keep at it [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: :). I don’t really want you to leave, just sharing the options [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: (*^_^*) [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rambolives21** joined.* [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa is the friendliest planet around [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: huh I didn't notice. Yeah you can probably net 20k each trip if you load up your starter ships with SF and take them to the other exchanges [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: that might be literally 10x better CIS/day than the starter fuel production [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: you might need PRO for the currency exchange though [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mako64**: stopping everything I'm doing to see if I can do that [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Can fly BSEs back to do the currency exchange without pro. They are pretty much a high MM on all exchanges. [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe my next project will to invest in a ship upgrade in order to haul fuel around the system [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 500 units isn't all that much [23-Nov-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: an upgrade for a ship to 3000/1000 will be somewhere upwards for 400,000 [23-Nov-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hm, so that's about as much as a new base [23-Nov-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morlup** left.* [23-Nov-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: for an upgrade yep. a new ship....that is a totally different storey [23-Nov-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: a new one goes well north of 4Mil at auction and that is fairly cheap at that price [23-Nov-23 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blindcamel** joined.* [23-Nov-23 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **blindcamel**: ADM [23-Nov-23 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blindcamel** left.* [24-Nov-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***El_Capitan_Kirk** joined.* [24-Nov-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***El_Capitan_Kirk** left.* [24-Nov-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user35f0e74667** left.* [24-Nov-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JPGordon** left.* [24-Nov-23 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***3bdo** joined.* [24-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsEman** left.* [24-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LORD_NEIL** joined.* [24-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BYTECS** joined.* [24-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Katoa->Umbra->Katoa round trip shipping contract up for grabs. [24-Nov-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WungChin**: to low of rating sorry [24-Nov-23 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zipire** left.* [24-Nov-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: As well as CLI/PE [24-Nov-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Plus some cheap AL [24-Nov-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i like these black friday discounts :) [24-Nov-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrdoctor** left.* [24-Nov-23 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mako64**: anyone selling H & HE3 I'm about to run dry in 4 hours [24-Nov-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's a bunch available on the LM [24-Nov-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdcc8bbaa1a** left.* [24-Nov-23 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***typicaltaco** joined.* [24-Nov-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: Whats LM? [24-Nov-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Local Market [24-Nov-23 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: Duh thanks, still learning the ropes [24-Nov-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Usul_Raen**: Just that the LM is only for Pro and Basic players right? [24-Nov-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: yes [24-Nov-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the LM is fun because sometimes you see crazy good deals and sometimes you see crazy bad deals [24-Nov-23 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: last minute call for any katoa to umbra shipments. leaving momentarily, will deliver packages for cheap [24-Nov-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mr_nexus** joined.* [24-Nov-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sirwilliam4629** left.* [24-Nov-23 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oceanblue6** joined.* [25-Nov-23 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EricTrotsky** joined.* [25-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wasttt** left.* [25-Nov-23 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbbcae6bf73** left.* [25-Nov-23 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FurAuran** joined.* [25-Nov-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Legit19** joined.* [25-Nov-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: where did H20 makers disappear off to? 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[28-Nov-23 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Yeah all real time, you can reduce that time with luxury supplies [28-Nov-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WungChin** deleted this message.* [28-Nov-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or if you build 23 buildings, your average production time becomes 1 hour :) [28-Nov-23 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***feodal_frederic** left.* [28-Nov-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc428522edb** left.* [28-Nov-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TypeNullGaming** joined.* [28-Nov-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nikitauou** joined.* [28-Nov-23 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd814ead114** left.* [28-Nov-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OneTrueRedneck** left.* [28-Nov-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Once-ler** joined.* [29-Nov-23 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rizn404** left.* [29-Nov-23 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ReversedPeePee** left.* [29-Nov-23 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NickyLuna** left.* [29-Nov-23 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackthorn99** joined.* [29-Nov-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***foxy773** left.* [29-Nov-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laerdros** joined.* [29-Nov-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashreon** left.* [29-Nov-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paulius.Jeg** joined.* [29-Nov-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfe14baed9f** left.* [29-Nov-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grubble** left.* [29-Nov-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***goldfish___** joined.* [29-Nov-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***number7598271** joined.* [29-Nov-23 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leicesismore** left.* [29-Nov-23 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Local round trip shipping contracts between Katoa and Umbra on LM [29-Nov-23 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dave-Johnson** joined.* [29-Nov-23 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bruhhhh** left.* [29-Nov-23 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CpZapper** joined.* [29-Nov-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Direx** left.* [30-Nov-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tjeuten** joined.* [30-Nov-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FurryTame** joined.* [30-Nov-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hydraling** left.* [30-Nov-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***emk** left.* [30-Nov-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Red_Supras** joined.* [30-Nov-23 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***litoborobia** joined.* [30-Nov-23 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***K9L9B** joined.* [30-Nov-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sudzy** left.* [30-Nov-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***litoborobia** left.* [01-Dec-23 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luftwaffel** left.* [01-Dec-23 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kittoneko** left.* [01-Dec-23 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kittisci** joined.* [01-Dec-23 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OHS** joined.* [01-Dec-23 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***potatocakes** left.* [01-Dec-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2243088f9f** left.* [01-Dec-23 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belette** left.* [01-Dec-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marget448** joined.* [01-Dec-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Marget448**: Yes [01-Dec-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user31fe25b75c** left.* [01-Dec-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user68e31a4796** left.* [01-Dec-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OHS** left.* [01-Dec-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deathsneaker** joined.* [01-Dec-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rogue545** joined.* [01-Dec-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1aed033b55** left.* [01-Dec-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tr4hard** joined.* [01-Dec-23 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RogueBoJack** joined.* [01-Dec-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ROFLOKEK** joined.* [01-Dec-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnknownRPGer** joined.* [01-Dec-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wondermops** joined.* [01-Dec-23 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user88551cdb7e** left.* [01-Dec-23 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoyaleChaos** joined.* [02-Dec-23 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bRomeo69** joined.* [02-Dec-23 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0b160c264a** left.* [02-Dec-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user683805a3a6** left.* [02-Dec-23 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user411c9749d8** left.* [02-Dec-23 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera1ab31a452** left.* [02-Dec-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darsher1** joined.* [02-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bearloga** left.* [02-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MikeEhrmantraut** joined.* [02-Dec-23 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***typicaltaco** left.* [02-Dec-23 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mr_nexus** left.* [02-Dec-23 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Anyone got MCG on hand? I'll pay 5000CIS for 100u [03-Dec-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: posted in LM [03-Dec-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: accepted and delivered [03-Dec-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx [03-Dec-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sonnymcgregor987** joined.* [03-Dec-23 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rolf_the_Jade** joined.* [03-Dec-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DemonFCG** joined.* [03-Dec-23 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duhsten** joined.* [03-Dec-23 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3541a3b1bb** left.* [03-Dec-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oceanblue6** left.* [03-Dec-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Terrabey** joined.* [03-Dec-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowKnights**: is there a way to buy or upgrade ships without pro licence [03-Dec-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user14bdcf4019** left.* [03-Dec-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: there is not. all ships are bought as pieces and assembled as a shipbuilding project which is pro only [03-Dec-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFailure** joined.* [03-Dec-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Inforiel**: Not to mention without active PRO you can only fly 2 ships at a time anyway [03-Dec-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haloing** joined.* [03-Dec-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DemonFCG** left.* [03-Dec-23 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mastermind0104** joined.* [03-Dec-23 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***comradeAlex** joined.* [03-Dec-23 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SomeRacerGuy** joined.* [04-Dec-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user52b9dcb539** left.* [04-Dec-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfc5db33534** left.* [04-Dec-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0e6f435e5b** left.* [04-Dec-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Missa** left.* [04-Dec-23 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc9d55e2faf** left.* [04-Dec-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hatambosa** joined.* [04-Dec-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Merrie** left.* [04-Dec-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cynblue** left.* [04-Dec-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Der_einsame_Wolf** joined.* [04-Dec-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tgrisier576** joined.* [04-Dec-23 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rambolives21** left.* [04-Dec-23 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DatBaam** joined.* [04-Dec-23 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DatBaam**: i understand a shit [04-Dec-23 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1e565e220f** left.* [04-Dec-23 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***krispyasian** left.* [05-Dec-23 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Huanlol** left.* [05-Dec-23 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: as long as it's mutual, who are we to judge [05-Dec-23 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userade06d666d** left.* [05-Dec-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FinnIstGut** left.* [05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userca93d92278** left.* [05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***indytechcook** joined.* [05-Dec-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***naturegirl1999** joined.* [05-Dec-23 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joebidenten** left.* [05-Dec-23 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Knightly_Spectre** left.* [05-Dec-23 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***c1eave** joined.* [05-Dec-23 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chri010** joined.* [06-Dec-23 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pezzy** joined.* [06-Dec-23 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***QuietEarp** joined.* [06-Dec-23 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jester5093** joined.* [06-Dec-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnLucky** left.* [06-Dec-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goodwood** left.* [06-Dec-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***111smith111** left.* [06-Dec-23 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flwerz** joined.* [06-Dec-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr-V** joined.* [06-Dec-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***onceUponAStrawberry** joined.* [06-Dec-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TypeNullGaming** left.* [06-Dec-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsWacko** left.* [06-Dec-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user16ad922ca6** left.* [06-Dec-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***psycoKnight** left.* [06-Dec-23 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jpthebricklayer** joined.* [06-Dec-23 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jpthebricklayer**: hi [06-Dec-23 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QuietEarp** left.* [06-Dec-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azoreth** joined.* [06-Dec-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yourpantz** joined.* [06-Dec-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome in [06-Dec-23 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nikitauou** left.* [06-Dec-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jester5093**: no in game calculator? [07-Dec-23 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mobamba** joined.* [07-Dec-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***parabolic_emu** left.* [07-Dec-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc1d246f7d4** left.* [07-Dec-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mobamba**: gang gang [07-Dec-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiogenesGreene**: gang gang [07-Dec-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anmordi** joined.* [07-Dec-23 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Statik** joined.* [07-Dec-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you install the PMMG Enhanced plugin to your browser there is a calculator included. XIT CALC [07-Dec-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Then add it to the left side menu. XIT SETTINGS [07-Dec-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueHeeler** deleted this message.* [07-Dec-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DripSwag** joined.* [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: vote for COGC - Katoa is about to flip to fuel refining... [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: @everyone VOTE VOTE VOTE! [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol, [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: use your democratic rights !!!!!! [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: NAB and GAL on LM for all you fuel producers [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Free Hydrogen for everyone vote Manufacturing! lmao [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: noo, pls do manufacturing~ [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Hmmmm. I may have to take you up on that :p [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Hahaha @James :P :D [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: is free H like free beer? [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Yas Hydrogen infused beer [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9a18c6507d** left.* [07-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Good people of Katoa, hear me. The will of the people should win throughout we are one people divided only by our will to manufacture what we need in order to keep the colonies supplied. Do your civic duty VOTE today VOTE for .... [07-Dec-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: more manufactoruing [07-Dec-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mobamba**: how do you even vote? [07-Dec-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: COGC UV-351a [07-Dec-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mobamba**: thanks [07-Dec-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: you check your notifications, click the one from CoGC one then there's a vote button under command across latest program [07-Dec-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: @Gilith, that's a lot easier lol [07-Dec-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: this one's even easier: [07-Dec-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: COGCPD p-UV-351a pn-ADVERTISING_MANUFACTURING [07-Dec-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gilith**: :D [07-Dec-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: yer right! [07-Dec-23 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***idk_how_to_name_myself** joined.* [07-Dec-23 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: welcome to Katoa [07-Dec-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hehe, this is probably the most interesting vote for a long time [07-Dec-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: *cries in PE* [07-Dec-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rat_guy** joined.* [07-Dec-23 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hey, maybe we can flip between the two every few weeks ;) [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: This Katoa Planet has become succumbed in fake news it literally has no oil left! [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: I can't believe you maniacs are pushing fuel refining when SF.CI1 is less than 20% above Katoa COGM [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: but as an H producer godspeed [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yep, time to put fuel friendly goods on the LM [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: *Wiping my tears using my Nylon Fabrics* [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Fuel priced may go low enough to hit the market maker stop price [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the next step is to create a cartel of fuel-producers to collude to keep SF prices up πŸ˜‰ [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: you heard it folks, a vote for Fuel Refining is a vote for corruption and expensive fuel! xP [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: why are so many ppl voting for Fuel Refining ?! [07-Dec-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: don't be a combo breaker, vote for manufacturing! [07-Dec-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i see some people do not want to POWER THE FRONTIER so i'm not sure they can be trusted [07-Dec-23 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: If you want to make more money don't switch the CoGC, switch industries... SF refiners, switching CoGC might increase your profits by ~25%, switching to manufacturing could increase it by 100%+... you don't need the CoGC, the market is already saturated. 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[07-Dec-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tjwalton80** joined.* [07-Dec-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LouFokke** joined.* [07-Dec-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: Oh interesting, people really vote for fuel again? need ro prepare to leave for a new manufacturing home, will be interesting to watch how Katoa develop without manufacturing :) [07-Dec-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoneyMakerr** left.* [07-Dec-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: even if it somehow passes I doubt it will stick once people realize what an efficiency bonus actually means [07-Dec-23 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vulcanfreehugs** joined.* [07-Dec-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***birdmaster47** joined.* [07-Dec-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the manufacturing camp has taken the lead again :) [07-Dec-23 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fireclaw** joined.* [08-Dec-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lexarzim** joined.* [08-Dec-23 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: @Fitz Yes, thatβ€˜s right. For fuel production the bonus isnβ€˜t really important. You get some more output but no other production chain rely on your output. But for manufacturing a lot of people will rely of the outputs to use them as inputs for other bases. In my case that means a whole chain will be damaged, so I would be forced to establish a new manufacturing planet. No problem at all, at least I would have something to do but it would be better if there is another reason than β€ža little more fuelβ€œ only. Fuel is low margin product, most bigger players use own fuel or corp fuel. Fuel is just not as important than other things. [08-Dec-23 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrWild173** joined.* [08-Dec-23 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KaiserZero**: Plot Twist: Resource Extraction will win the COGC this week [08-Dec-23 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LAMP13819** joined.* [08-Dec-23 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gemuz** joined.* [08-Dec-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goose1504** joined.* [08-Dec-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol, @Kaiser [08-Dec-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: its kinda nice folks are voting. most I've seen on a very heavily populated planet [08-Dec-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Canadian_Gamer** joined.* [08-Dec-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: democracy at work! [08-Dec-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The productivity boost for fuel would be very modest compared to manufacturing. Take a look at what is paying the most in taxes. If you want to make lots of credits start manufacturing. If you switch the CoGC over to fuel production you will be reducing the tax credits that pays for the POPI. [08-Dec-23 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlubberGasket** joined.* [08-Dec-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xensored**: and if the manufacturing people will leave the planet, fuel producers will not cover the costs ... so taxes will have to be increased and eat the COGC bonus. 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ΠŸΠΎΠ»ΡƒΡ‡ΠΈ Ρ€Π΅Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹Π΅ дСньги Π·Π° ΠΏΠΎΠΊΡƒΠΏΠΊΡƒ ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ΄Π°ΠΆΡƒ скинов ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΌΠ΅Ρ‚ΠΎΠ² Dota 2 ΠΈΠ· Steam. [10-Dec-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PETERPAUL** joined.* [10-Dec-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***O_JAVEL** joined.* [10-Dec-23 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6d361209b2** left.* [10-Dec-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FurryTame**: Does anyone have corp to join? [10-Dec-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joshi** left.* [10-Dec-23 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Omeg** joined.* [10-Dec-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Omeg**: Hi, I just built a base, how do I start ? [10-Dec-23 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @FurryTame if you use discord that's a good place to start. there's a server called Unified Faction Operations (UFO) at https://discord.gg/hSCnYDF49J and if you go to the #access-request channel and type "!join recruitment" you'll be able to see some info of many of the recruiting corps in the game. It's not neccessary to join a corp, just a fun element if you enjoy a more cooperative experience [10-Dec-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darsher1** left.* [10-Dec-23 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InhumaneCactus** left.* [10-Dec-23 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rime.ice** joined.* [10-Dec-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FurryTame** left.* [10-Dec-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tyro12** joined.* [10-Dec-23 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kondomize** joined.* [10-Dec-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hamsterdam** joined.* [10-Dec-23 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OrionDao** joined.* [10-Dec-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gatekeeper-Thanatos** joined.* [10-Dec-23 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***doctorlovely** joined.* [10-Dec-23 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **rime.ice**: where do you find refineries in construction ?_? 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Is it all player-based? [11-Dec-23 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nehema** joined.* [11-Dec-23 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: all player based [12-Dec-23 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: TY. Wonder if there is a galaxy bank that makes loans [12-Dec-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: I've managed to get two loans just by asking people here in katoa chat [12-Dec-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitz**: if post some general terms (principal, repayment) there are some people happy to send you a contract at affordable rates [12-Dec-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: Thanks Fitz! 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[19-Dec-23 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PETERPAUL** left.* [19-Dec-23 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Gibson [19-Dec-23 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Ebisu - Gibson (JS-952c) [19-Dec-23 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ludaduma**: ty [19-Dec-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CosmicFrozqn** joined.* [19-Dec-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ruvyy** left.* [19-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osinpk** joined.* [19-Dec-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user57e62b5e5a** left.* [19-Dec-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malagod** left.* [19-Dec-23 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lilmax** left.* [19-Dec-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RogueAustralian** joined.* [19-Dec-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemberg** left.* [19-Dec-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb52eb6aa24** left.* [19-Dec-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tipe** joined.* [19-Dec-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zlr-** left.* [19-Dec-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***csueltz** joined.* [19-Dec-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoofyMoose** joined.* [19-Dec-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***axtro** left.* [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM Buy 700 FF @20/u In a hurry, only those with stock on hand please. [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: thx for fill [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Glad to help Zen. [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: and darn good price so... THANK YOU [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Need anything to go to ANT in a hurry? [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Dang missed it by 2 minutes xD [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I'm making a 3h trip to ANT and I have 479/486 free. [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: hehe, not sorry. better luck next time bud [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: havent done much at all in ANT space since day 1 lol [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: launching in 5 min. will accept 10 per t/m3 as I don't really care. [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I'm trying to finish the following so I'm already prepared to lose money: [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: #1 Finish a ship construction project 8 days 15h pending -- FULFILL #2 Payment of 147,141 CIS (1 day) Castillo-Ito Influence Executive pending #1 #3 Pick up 980 / 980 units of Drinking Water at Benten - Katoa (UV-351a) (7 days) pending #1 FULFILL #4 Grant 20 faction reputation points (1 day) Castillo-Ito Influence Executive pending #1 [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: 20 faction points is a lot. [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: oh heck yea, nice [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Have to pick-up last components needed in ANT so overpaying for fuel is worth it to get it fast. [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Last call for space on a 3h Katoa to ANT run... [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: o.o [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Antares Station 2h 57m (09:22 PM) 88,205,720 km 61 parsecs 0.395% 527 units STL fuel (35%) 1322 units FTL fuel (66%) [19-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Engines are heating up.... [19-Dec-23 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: nice fast run. safe flying .. [19-Dec-23 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: how much space and what you charging? [19-Dec-23 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: read above [19-Dec-23 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: 479/486 free 10/u [19-Dec-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: let me do some math real quick and I'll send a cont [19-Dec-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: ok, engines on standby. [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: sent [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Um that goes to BEN [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I'm going to ANT [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: ah shoot. dam, that is fast, lol. I missed that, everything I'd want to sent to ANT is on Etherwind :( sorry bout that [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: np. [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Launching... [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: And it's away. [19-Dec-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userefe17550ab** left.* [19-Dec-23 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jieirn** joined.* [19-Dec-23 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jieirn**: and how do I save? [19-Dec-23 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: There is no save game. Everything is live and permanent. 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[20-Dec-23 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: open the FLT command then click 'fly' [20-Dec-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gamer_mod_craft** left.* [20-Dec-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icarus_Enflamed** left.* [20-Dec-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zaliusama11** joined.* [20-Dec-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alezineo** joined.* [20-Dec-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user45ebd4ab54** left.* [20-Dec-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeoDeo** joined.* [20-Dec-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Winger** left.* [20-Dec-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrSpoon** left.* [20-Dec-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eamons.0804** left.* [20-Dec-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: anyone have 6 MCG lying around? I'm buying at 35 CIS per unit [20-Dec-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Thank you <3 [20-Dec-23 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hexanol**: no problem [20-Dec-23 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T123Tank** joined.* [20-Dec-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Waterbunns** joined.* [20-Dec-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BoredBoi** left.* [20-Dec-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BrutalBeef** joined.* [20-Dec-23 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VastMallard** left.* [20-Dec-23 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SyntaxError** left.* [20-Dec-23 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zotc** left.* [20-Dec-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NAM3OFTH3GAM3** joined.* [20-Dec-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jieirn**: If i didnt have a warehouse or a ship somewhere when I bought minerals, are they just gone? [20-Dec-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeanboySBD** joined.* [20-Dec-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: check your contracts [20-Dec-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jieirn**: Thanks [21-Dec-23 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pouchin09** left.* [21-Dec-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mornemalin** joined.* [21-Dec-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pyx3e**: Can i split the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen? [21-Dec-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Unfortunately no. [21-Dec-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ruyagormeyenadam** left.* [21-Dec-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***champinoman** joined.* [21-Dec-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Dang wouldn't that be cool.... [21-Dec-23 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***atzy_** joined.* [21-Dec-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mornemalin** left.* [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: I was wondering the same thing. I wanted to harvest the water and use the hydrogen and sell off the extra oxygen [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: though that a while ago. just think what it would to the prices of water H and O lol [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: it would either crash H & O or make water so expensuve you couldnt afford to make DW or RAT's [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: true, I assume it would even out, or the price for those things would exponentially increase [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: speaking of H prices... where do y'all think H.CI1 will end up? [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: I think it is going to go down a bit more because of the sheer amount of people producing it [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: it seems to be leveling out a little though [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: I have to hope it gets to a more reasonable price on the cx. kind of a fundamental building material so the cross impact is high [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: yea, I am starting my own production soon so I don't have to buy it [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good move, where are you building ? [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: building on Umbria [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good access to the CX but not great procution volume. if you have the shipping capacity look into CB-282d [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: good idea but I simply don't have the funds right now [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: absolutely reasonable. keep it in mind for the future [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: As a new player I'd probably say Umbra is a better shot so you can produce other goods right there. If you pickup a base on CB you then either have to ship H somewhere else or everything else to CB [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: definitely, it is very close [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: If I did a base out there I would probably ship the H out [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: you would also want to upgrade your basic ships for higher carrying capacity [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: true, otherwise it might become more expensive than its worth right? [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: but to Constelation's point starting at umbra is a good initial setup with future expansion where the production is higher [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: Yes, also vote for me in the upcoming election :) [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: I don't really expect to win but I want to try [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ya so if you setup a base on Umbra you can produce other goods such as MG, PG, etc [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LeoDeo**: There’s elections in this game??? [21-Dec-23 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: Yea there are [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Yup each planet has a governor or buildings to become a governor [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LeoDeo**: That’s dope I just figured someone owned it or somethin [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LeoDeo**: How does new currency get introduced into the economy of this game other than new players? [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Nope, everything is elected officials :) Though if you want to become governor you will want to get familiar with population infrastructure requirements. Most governors take care of the needs themselves [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jimmiefan** joined.* [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Not 100% sure but new money coming in should be purely from new players [21-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: New money also comes in when you sell to a Market Maker at CX [21-Dec-23 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eimer** left.* [21-Dec-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbbac81945a** left.* [21-Dec-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Patoine** joined.* [21-Dec-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***taptitans000** left.* [21-Dec-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: New money can also come in from faction contracts [21-Dec-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user40fbcbcef2** left.* [21-Dec-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: I believe most new money comes in from selling to the market maker .... specifically end game players selling IDC to the market maker. [21-Dec-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: lol "Good Katoa Government" xD [21-Dec-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I cast my vote for the lack of "muahahaha"'s [21-Dec-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: personally I quite like the Mwahaha's... they go quite well with the whole Eeeevilllll theme . [21-Dec-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: its not like anyone has be boiled alive.. well, not in the last month.. or is that hour ? [21-Dec-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeFist** left.* [21-Dec-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***R3V** left.* [21-Dec-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I like the interest of some other players in the government. Everyone who is interested to learn more about governing a planet like Katoa may contact me on UFO Discord. [21-Dec-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: As I learned by myself it's sometimes difficult to keep the balance and to organize and provide all the needed upkeep stuff. So I think possible ne governors should plan their government carefully before running and high populated planet like Katoa into a disaster. [21-Dec-23 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user047f82f958** left.* [21-Dec-23 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stormgamer** left.* [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MasterManstar** left.* [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf871cd6e16** left.* [21-Dec-23 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***atzy_** left.* [21-Dec-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8727a256ba** left.* [22-Dec-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fire_Vulf** left.* [22-Dec-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yash9850** joined.* [22-Dec-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user273389e5b0** left.* [22-Dec-23 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GingerGamerboy** joined.* [22-Dec-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I just did put a new financial report of the Katoa Government on the channel at UFO discord. For short: currently the upkeep costs me around 870k cis per week. The tax income is almost the same. However, if I would need to buy the upkeep mats for cx prices, the costs would be arround 1.3m cis per week. [22-Dec-23 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sunkburrito** left.* [22-Dec-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Z-Cristo** joined.* [22-Dec-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: in my experience it always costs the governor more in upkeep than it brings in. My place is tiny compaired with Katoa lol [22-Dec-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DanteWillEat** joined.* [22-Dec-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JetNeon** left.* [22-Dec-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: There is something I have wanted to bring up for a while. I would be ok with a slight tax increase if it meant being able to increase Health and Safety of our population. I believe we need a new Hospital and a Security Drone Post. [22-Dec-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: A new library would also help with our relatively low education fulfilment. [22-Dec-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: I know I am still considered new here and if i'm missing something important please correct me [22-Dec-23 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PrimusFly** left.* [22-Dec-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yoshioka** joined.* [22-Dec-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bob51505150** left.* [22-Dec-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gattor** joined.* [22-Dec-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Currently there is no need to increase health and security, since we have enough unemployment with pioneers and settlers. we have education through the university. if we need more high tier population, I will improve the education. But currently we also have enough for the needs. 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I am new, and thought of second bace on Umbra as means to close my fuel production cycle [23-Dec-23 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: but was told that the Hydrogen there would have isufisient yield [23-Dec-23 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: is it so and for what else I can use a base there [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Umbra H production is comparatively low (CB-282d is the best in the local area at least)... However, when you are just starting out it can do the job for you nicely because it is local to Katoa (where you are producing fuel ?) and BENTEN CX. [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: both of those mean you are lowering your fuel consumption and transportation time [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: Umbra is Chemistry COGC. Many people run large PG operations there. [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yep, myself included. So another future production expansion when you get a better H supply. Or do them in parallel of course [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: Thanks for the contracts guys! im all set now :) [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as a "small time" SF producer, i also get my hydrogen from umbra, and it's working out well for me [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: can I sell ships in this game [23-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: thank may consider further respecialisation then on umbra [23-Dec-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: I dont think you can sell your ships (and honestly dont think it would be a good thing as you will definitely use them) [23-Dec-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: if they are idle right now look around for shipping contracts that you can do. just make sure you will make a profit for yourself [23-Dec-23 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: I dont have pro licence, but thanks [23-Dec-23 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Realify** joined.* [23-Dec-23 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Realify**: Hello [23-Dec-23 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Realify**: Anyone? 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[24-Dec-23 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Thoern**: have fun :) [24-Dec-23 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***peterkkkk** left.* [24-Dec-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AimBerger**: nice! [24-Dec-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AimBerger**: now i have to find out how to set up a contract ^^ [24-Dec-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jormang** joined.* [24-Dec-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AimBerger**: ok i think i have it [24-Dec-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7f61dc0636** left.* [24-Dec-23 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Dang that's tempting but I'll leave it to the new guys to get in on this :) [24-Dec-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸŽ„πŸŽ„πŸŽ„ [24-Dec-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Topher2112** joined.* [24-Dec-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: hi there, I need some TS mineral but dont have pro account. Will be lovely is someone fill my order at Benten exchange or places reasonable one there for me to buy [24-Dec-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: thaanks [24-Dec-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what do you need it for? it's going to be way easier to just buy SI or HE3 [24-Dec-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: funds trasfering actualy XD [24-Dec-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (alas, i don't have any TS to sell you, because it's so hard to find ;) [24-Dec-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magma2.0** left.* [24-Dec-23 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orin_Fortissimo** left.* [24-Dec-23 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will be going to Benton in a few hours. I will bring som TS. [24-Dec-23 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sorry. That ship will not be at Benton CX for quite a few hours, perhaps 11 hours. [24-Dec-23 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Still on its way back from the mining planet. [24-Dec-23 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't have 100 TS on hand but I will sell you 50 locally. [24-Dec-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beashy** joined.* [24-Dec-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: thanks, but dont have pro account for local sells [24-Dec-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Can I send you a contract as free account? [24-Dec-23 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: not sure [24-Dec-23 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: never tried [24-Dec-23 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Lets try... 50 units 50 CIS, okay? [24-Dec-23 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 50 each [24-Dec-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: ok, I can pay more if you want np [24-Dec-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Naw, I mine it. [24-Dec-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Standby [24-Dec-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: ok [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nirmae** left.* [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Did you get the contract? [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: yes, but I am not allowed to accept it [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Does it say that? [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: yes [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It shouldn't let me send it ... now we know. Sorry. [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: when I try to accept it, there is a lock and says I have to be pro license [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: I can only reject [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: it allows you becaus you are pro probably [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: So I guess you need to reject it so it will go away. [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: yep [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: nvm, thanks for the help anyway, I think I figured out another way around for what I wanted to do with the TS [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My ship will be at Benton CX later on and I will fill your bid. [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: ok, I placed new for 50 TS on higher prise [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: fell free [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zesternity**: thanks again [24-Dec-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome. 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[24-Dec-23 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New year to you and all [24-Dec-23 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Knife** left.* [24-Dec-23 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pwoer** left.* [24-Dec-23 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheAlpaca** left.* [24-Dec-23 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LeoDeo**: Its official now at least in my time zone Merry Christmass [24-Dec-23 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LeoDeo**: May the new year bring you profitable trades [24-Dec-23 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duhreapa** joined.* [25-Dec-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6646c154a6** left.* [25-Dec-23 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vaito** joined.* [25-Dec-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rokiyam**: anyone around that has some time to help a newb :) [25-Dec-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KleinesL** left.* [25-Dec-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM Buy 20 Al @750/u. On hand inventory only please. 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I would gladly benefit from some productivity boost [26-Dec-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user83af2337e8** left.* [26-Dec-23 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***saladcrack** joined.* [26-Dec-23 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***badwolf1472** left.* [26-Dec-23 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **saladcrack**: I've bought materials and such off the commodity exchange without indicating a place to put them and the orders have been filled? How can I collect my stuff? [26-Dec-23 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wrendition** joined.* [26-Dec-23 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dudele** left.* [26-Dec-23 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: check your contracts [26-Dec-23 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wrendition** left.* [26-Dec-23 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Globama** left.* [26-Dec-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Am_morii** left.* [27-Dec-23 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avacyn** joined.* [27-Dec-23 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Avacyn**: o/ [27-Dec-23 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: Hi Avacyn! Welcome to Katoa [27-Dec-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0c7ef43de6** left.* [27-Dec-23 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Layforce** joined.* [27-Dec-23 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***adron174** joined.* [27-Dec-23 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ninored** left.* [27-Dec-23 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lonkar1312** joined.* [27-Dec-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Avacyn**: Thank you Norf, sorry I believe I had gone to bed by then. [27-Dec-23 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Avacyn**: I set my ship to the lowest amount of fuel to travel to a market... I'll see it in 4 days lmao [27-Dec-23 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osinpk** left.* [27-Dec-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luki_MOZI** joined.* [27-Dec-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: yep, to start fuel is a large part of your expenses. [27-Dec-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: the counter cost is going to be time [27-Dec-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Avacyn**: yeaaah, I was thinking "oh this will be fine" and I know this is a slow paced game, but I def could've calculated it better lmao [27-Dec-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: lol, probably. well, you should have another ship you can use in the meantime [27-Dec-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: and there is the favorite part of the game.... PLANNING YOUR DOMINATION OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!! [27-Dec-23 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Avacyn**: Dominating the Universe and the Sheets B) my style of game [27-Dec-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackstone2OOO** joined.* [27-Dec-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RogueAustralian** left.* [27-Dec-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: The smartest thing I ever did in this game was starting as a fuel company ha! 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It will become agood foundation for the rest of your empire [28-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user12a1a806fe** left.* [28-Dec-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emukiller339** joined.* [28-Dec-23 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DangerousMarker1010** left.* [28-Dec-23 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Williampilot** joined.* [28-Dec-23 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeepingAngel** joined.* [28-Dec-23 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ere_S** left.* [28-Dec-23 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryebread** joined.* [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: anyone on planet has 12 MCG to spare? [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: I do [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: Can I buy for 50 a unite? [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: yeah sure [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: I can post a local ad for it? [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: And of course I cant send a contract. Damned PRO license. [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: Thanks anyways. [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: Could I send you the contract? [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: Do you have a PRO license? [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: yeah [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: Then you should be able to. [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: you should have it [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: Yep. "This action requires a PRO license!" [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: lol well I don't know if you have access to local market without pro, do you need one for that as well? [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: Yeah [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: ah okay, I can't think of a way around it then, well I'll have it for a bit so if there is another way feel free to ping [28-Dec-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Grudy159**: I doubt there is. Oh well, I’ll buy it the next time I’m at the station. [28-Dec-23 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sadly, you need PRO or BASIC to accept LM ads [28-Dec-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9b973cf0e7** left.* [28-Dec-23 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ky** joined.* [28-Dec-23 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Memanoth** joined.* [28-Dec-23 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avacyn** left.* [28-Dec-23 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avacyn** joined.* [28-Dec-23 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avacyn** left.* [29-Dec-23 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user99dd53e907** left.* [29-Dec-23 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mason_water** joined.* [29-Dec-23 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2c2d1dfa9b** left.* [29-Dec-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yoeghoert** joined.* [29-Dec-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user95cefebb24** left.* [29-Dec-23 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: Anyone need a transport to BEN? I will leave in a couple of hours and have 145,44/402 left. 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[29-Dec-23 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: probably a few, it is an international browser game.ask in Discord as well :D [29-Dec-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Colvin01**: where i can find the discord ? ty [29-Dec-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: https://discord.gg/pqE48VK3by this is Official one [29-Dec-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: https://discord.gg/cZ8fZc3X this is UFO to find your group and stuff [29-Dec-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vincenric** joined.* [29-Dec-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninjale** joined.* [29-Dec-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NAM3OFTH3GAM3** left.* [29-Dec-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chemotherapy** left.* [29-Dec-23 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crossover** joined.* [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crossover**: So as a starter, after setting up a production order which takes 16h to complete, there is nothing to do for 16hrs ? [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome! [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, that's right [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crossover**: well damn [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in the future, you'll find that there are plenty of things to do in those 16 hours :) [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crossover**: I hope so because otherwise I'm really digging the vibe that the game is going for [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it has a slow start, but if you like the vibe, stick with in [29-Dec-23 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: with it* [29-Dec-23 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Crossover**: alright then [29-Dec-23 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: eventually you'll have multiple production factories, and then multiple bases, each needing new ingredients, or in need of outputs shipped to other planets or markets [29-Dec-23 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Even before then, my favorite part of this game is the planning. dig into the CXs, do some research, ask questions here or on discord, build some base plans on prunplanner.org Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― once you figure it out and make a plan someone may even be willing to give you a loan to Jumpstart those plans past the slow start if you want [29-Dec-23 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T123Tank** left.* [29-Dec-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Remedy8899** joined.* [29-Dec-23 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Allteraintrain** joined.* [29-Dec-23 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeanboySBD** left.* [29-Dec-23 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: LM buy PG 1000 @ 60/u [29-Dec-23 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Got you with the PG. [29-Dec-23 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I deffo need that loan [29-Dec-23 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: just blew all my starter money on stuff, hopefully I'm profitable :) [29-Dec-23 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Deckss are you free or pro? [29-Dec-23 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schizzy** joined.* [29-Dec-23 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: free [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashaqra** joined.* [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: Seriously how do you progress in this game? Every commodity is so undercut, you lose money on fuel to move items, and basics to keep your workers working [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I have that problem too [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Pinching pennies [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Whats your profession? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: Fuel [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: well then fuel shouldnt be an issue [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: food is pretty easy to do later in the game if you have the right planet [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: and drinking water is just water [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: True but extracting still costs money [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: yea taxes are a bit annoying but we all start somewhere [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: just noticed we on the same planet [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: how can you tell that? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: from your profile [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome to the game, @Remedy8899 [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: are there player corps in this game? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: like teams of players? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: my 2nd day on the game [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome to you too, @Deckss :) [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, there are corporatation, but to be honest, it's a pretty small part of the game [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: got a penny to spare? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what do ya need? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it will be hard to give you anything, because only players with pro/basis licenses can accept contracts [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ahh nvm then [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: how about some advise to not go bankrupt in the first 2 days [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: only buy what u need [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i assume you're both making fuel here on Katoa? what buildings have you built so far? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: Starter buildings [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: ext ref [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: collecter extractor and 2 poineer habs and a setterler hab on the way [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: and a refinery [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok good, so you'll be making fuel (most likely H + AMM + GAL --> SF) to sell at the commodity market (at Benton Station) [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you know how to check your workforce satisfaction levels? [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 79.4 and 0.0 [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Remedy8899**: same 79.4 [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok good. keep an eye on that. the lower the satisfaction the slower everything runs. if it drops too low, it'll just be very very annoying to save up enough money [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so at a minimum, make sure everyone has enough of the "Essential" supplies. i think with only Essentials, the max satisfaction is something like 80% [30-Dec-23 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gepard_Landau**: Hey, I see more fuel bois. [30-Dec-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adonis88**: fuel bois indeed. 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I have 175 tons / 290 m3 free. If anyone wants something shipped in exchange for sharing fuel costs, LMK. 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[05-Jan-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I can get them sooner.. but ty [05-Jan-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Colbycow** left.* [05-Jan-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freygeist** joined.* [05-Jan-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***J2SHAMMY** joined.* [05-Jan-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yegg** joined.* [05-Jan-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userce40b9e457** left.* [05-Jan-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc526d73259** left.* [05-Jan-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XavierStash** joined.* [06-Jan-24 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quinuva** joined.* [06-Jan-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lele11** joined.* [06-Jan-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user974de8019a** left.* [06-Jan-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc2c4b3124f** left.* [06-Jan-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wardkii** joined.* [06-Jan-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FragileNinja** joined.* [06-Jan-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Powerpoint** joined.* [06-Jan-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slashysword** joined.* [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingBald1982** joined.* [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KingBald1982**: how to play this game [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KingBald1982**: hi [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhimsiesClad** joined.* [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maiiruuu** joined.* [06-Jan-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maiiruuu**: HI PLAGE ! 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Open the `FLT` window, and then click on the transponder/name of your ship, and you can see the current condition and repair costs [08-Jan-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemi** joined.* [08-Jan-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: below CX PWO on LM [08-Jan-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lele11**: thanks [08-Jan-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***blu3d0** joined.* [08-Jan-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfecff1b9c4** left.* [08-Jan-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wntr** joined.* [08-Jan-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5faa8fa47f** left.* [08-Jan-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdb93ddc149** left.* [08-Jan-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2e4e765d53** left.* [08-Jan-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vanheestbeest** left.* [08-Jan-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gh0st0** left.* [08-Jan-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lanayru96** joined.* [08-Jan-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1f3564a799** left.* [08-Jan-24 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noideasman1** joined.* [08-Jan-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noideasman1** left.* [08-Jan-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user58f3a91285** left.* [08-Jan-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Takiyoshia** joined.* [08-Jan-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noideasman1** joined.* [08-Jan-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** joined.* [08-Jan-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freshco__1** joined.* [08-Jan-24 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dogg0** left.* [08-Jan-24 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reubster1** joined.* [09-Jan-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere8e4709689** left.* [09-Jan-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera511784c33** left.* [09-Jan-24 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reeper2007** left.* [09-Jan-24 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spoingo** joined.* [09-Jan-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bruhleka** joined.* [09-Jan-24 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfd4f095f42** left.* [09-Jan-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DONNI** joined.* [09-Jan-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DONNI**: does my production keep going even if i close the game? [09-Jan-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZappBrannigan**: yes [09-Jan-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DONNI**: thanks [09-Jan-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***riojohnston** left.* [09-Jan-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SupplyandDemand** joined.* [09-Jan-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EEW** left.* [09-Jan-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SD18** joined.* [09-Jan-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera7aae05740** left.* [09-Jan-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hindsighted** joined.* [09-Jan-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: Even if you uninstall the game it keeps going! 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[10-Jan-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Reubster1**: you making a contract? [10-Jan-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Reubster1**: might need to pay to play? [10-Jan-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: No, I wanted to accept a shipping contract, but I'm "Unrated"... just didn't know if Pending meant no requirement [10-Jan-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Only my 3rd day on here so I'm still getting my bearings [10-Jan-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragon1232** joined.* [10-Jan-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Reubster1**: oh time will give you a rating i think, as you buy and sell etc [10-Jan-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Molard** left.* [10-Jan-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ratings are only available to pro members [10-Jan-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I also believe you can't post or accept contracts or LM ads as a free member. Though you can buy pro for a month and then drop down to basic to have the ability to accept contracts (and possibly ads?) [10-Jan-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I could be wrong though. Someone else will correct me if so [10-Jan-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowKnights**: is anyone in UV-351a selling LST [10-Jan-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how much do you need? 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Quite the information bomb [12-Jan-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, and welcome [12-Jan-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DadBodGod**: Howdy [12-Jan-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealFabian** joined.* [12-Jan-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Triton007** joined.* [12-Jan-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SaltyAsUsual** left.* [12-Jan-24 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zero311062** joined.* [12-Jan-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***samman119** joined.* [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roonaux** joined.* [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lostythelost** joined.* [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TiBiscuit** joined.* [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ScarletPimpleman** left.* [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wilson94** joined.* [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: i took fuel refining, did i make a good choice? [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm about 5 days in to it, and it's a slow start. If I was going to commit to it again, knowing what I know now, I'd have started somewhere else. [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I think it's more of a "late game" profession when you can produce in large volumes efficiently. [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 100units at a time trying to keep up with mats is pretty rough with only 1 base. [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It would probably be easier to grind farming/Food Processing for Drinking Water and basic Rations to start out with [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: in my planet i can get ammonia and galerite rock, so i only need to buy hydrogen [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: where are you? [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: benten system in katoa [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: yep, thats where I am [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: mhhhh not sure if i want to start again then haha [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: You'll get 2 Ammonia every 9hr 10min, and 9 Galerite every 16hrs 54min. [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: and produce 100 SF every 5h 39 min wich cost 3 h , 2 gal and 1 amm [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Right... but you'll run out of H quickly. [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: That's why it's tough to do with 1 base [12-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I built a Rig too so I could make rations and drinking water with a food processer [12-Jan-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: every time you go sell you have to get hydrogen [12-Jan-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: every few people can produce 100% of what they need, so for sure be prepared to make frequent trips to the market to buy suff [12-Jan-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: fair enough [12-Jan-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but if you're just starting with a small base, you can absolutely produce enough food on Katoa to feed your workers, so if that sounds fun, then go for it [12-Jan-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TiBiscuit**: i just started my fueling company on katoa, my first goal is to build a settler and a collector, then rush a second base to get my hydrogen [12-Jan-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***saccocat** left.* [12-Jan-24 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cam565355** joined.* [12-Jan-24 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lostythelost**: Is there anyway I can get pro for free [12-Jan-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StopTheSpam** joined.* [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Barkley**: I'm currently at Benton Station about to depart for Antares Station. Does anyone need anything transported before I go? I have about 300t and 350m3 of space left on my ship [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Barkley**: I'll be departing in about 30 min [12-Jan-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Angled** joined.* [12-Jan-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RhumCoca** left.* [12-Jan-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GilgameshAbsinthe** left.* [13-Jan-24 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OYEA** joined.* [13-Jan-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeBigPimpin** left.* [13-Jan-24 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jasom3** left.* [13-Jan-24 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Merced** joined.* [13-Jan-24 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Merced** left.* [13-Jan-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XioR112** joined.* [13-Jan-24 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryst** left.* [13-Jan-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andyeesti** joined.* [13-Jan-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***halogen** joined.* [13-Jan-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maatzor** joined.* [13-Jan-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***displayname21** left.* [13-Jan-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anburger** joined.* [13-Jan-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Anybody want something shipped to Benten? Leaving in 30min, 252t/320mΒ³ left [13-Jan-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i might have some small things to be shipped back from BEN to katoa, if you'll have space [13-Jan-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6f8c95721c** left.* [13-Jan-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***J2SHAMMY** left.* [13-Jan-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: I'll throw out a notice on the return trip tomorrow [13-Jan-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thx [13-Jan-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Are you on any of the PrUn Discords? I post in the shipping thread too when I have space [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: technically yes, but i never check them [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (perhaps i should) [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Can always just open cheap contracts if you have stuff that doesnt need immediate shipping. My production is pretty unstable right now so I make a lot of trips to the CX [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, it's a good point. i figure there's enough people flying around the system that probably you never have to wait long for someone to pick up a shipping contract [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: As long as the contract size is reasonable. Can't expect people to ship 500t or even 1000t [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: I mean you can but gotta wait a while for it [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, or pay for it [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MommyMelkrs** left.* [13-Jan-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MommyMelkrs** joined.* [13-Jan-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonasFransAlbert** left.* [13-Jan-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nerms02** joined.* [13-Jan-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KevinMcScrooge** joined.* [13-Jan-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I go back and forth from Katoa and BEN almost daily. I'm on a free license though so I don't know if I could accept shipping contracts. [13-Jan-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: with a BASIC license, i think you can accept shipping contracts [13-Jan-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkened16** joined.* [13-Jan-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***0xBACE** left.* [13-Jan-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Herman992** left.* [13-Jan-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0256faa1db** left.* [13-Jan-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lostythelost**: what buildings does manufacturer di [13-Jan-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lostythelost**: do [14-Jan-24 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fitco** joined.* [14-Jan-24 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fitco** left.* [14-Jan-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yuuta.0712** joined.* [14-Jan-24 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Benten CX -> Katoa 310t / 389mΒ³ space left. Leaving in 1h 30min [14-Jan-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Benten CX -> Katoa 310t / 389mΒ³ space left. Leaving in 40min [14-Jan-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freygeist** left.* [14-Jan-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DadBodGod**: Hey guys, total noob. I bought some stuff form a market place, I flew a ship there to pick it up. How do i put stuff from a station to my ship. Cant for the life of me figure it out [14-Jan-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DadBodGod**: Got it! 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[14-Jan-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: Only if you have resource extraction experts [14-Jan-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: they are experts in their field, not some kind of expert token you can just move around [14-Jan-24 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: got it. 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[15-Jan-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: To restart, open a new buffer and enter COLIQ [15-Jan-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: There are limits on how often you can restart, but no issues at all doing it once. [15-Jan-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NerdyOldGamer** left.* [15-Jan-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NerdyOldGamer** joined.* [15-Jan-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: Thank you [15-Jan-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or you can just deconstruct a building for no cost, if you've do it quickly enough [15-Jan-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***idmann** left.* [15-Jan-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3d95d2de85** left.* [15-Jan-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tetrahedral** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I think someone was asking earlier if anyone wanted to take over the government on Katoa [17-Jan-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: By earlier I mean 1am last night [17-Jan-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It was DasRallum - current Governor. [17-Jan-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: "Hi everyone. I am looking for someone, who wants to take over the Katoa Government. Requirements: +90 days old company, Pro Licence, +800k cis pocketmoney, present on UFO Discord, preferably member of a corp that can support. Contact me on UFO Discord if interested." [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user491aec7442** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***quinreeves** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: is there like an election though or is it just the current chooses next [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ? [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there is an election, and you can vote. Open a "ADM UV-351a" buffer for more info [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: vote for me :) [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: will lower refining taxes [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: note that governors are generally expected to contribute to the planet up-keep, which be substantial for a planet like katoa [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i knmow [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i read a bit about it [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: our current governor just contributed about 1.2 million CIS worth of supplies :) [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hmm [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: well [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hmm [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i could deffo do it [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 100% [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: vote for me and ill give you 50 CIS [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd861bc82f7** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user780dfff0bb** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***megamunchkins** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userece805e8dc** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***themadgreaser** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc55e6a4646** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blu3d0** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: if you wanted to run the planet without using your own money you would have to increase taxes because the current governor makes all of his upkeep items himself [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: he receives about 800k in "taxes" while if you were to buy the same upkeep from the CX it would cost about 1.2mil [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: I wanted to run but realized I am not cut out for it, unless yall are ok with higher taxes [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: because that is what would happen especially for someone like you @deckss considering your account age [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: @dasrallum will you at least be able to stay through the next election cycle or is that simply not an option. I would be happy to take over although as I have mentioned above taxes would have to be increased. (I know you said about contacting you on the ufo discord, just curious if you found someone yet) [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I've been talking with DasRallum, Archiel, and my corp, and I'm thinking about putting my name in. seems like a lot of work, but sounds fun to me and I'm pretty well set up for it. making a lot of inputs myself here on Katoa, and being in a corp with cheap internal prices could allow me to keep taxes at the lower- than-CX rates they're at now Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delshot** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: Yea probably would be a great option if you are willing to "run the show" [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: *better option [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: I am not in hurry. I will stay governor as long as it needs to prepare a proper change. I also think CptColeslaw would be a good replacement for me, especially with a big trustworthy corp like KAWA behind his back. :-) However I will first try to transfer all information I have to him, so that he will have a good start :-) [17-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1273112fb1** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WilierAtom** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bigfoot907** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: thanks :) yeah I'm running numbers right now to see if I can be ready to take over in 9d or if I need another term to prepare [17-Jan-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wonder if it makes sense to ask for others to help. for example, i can't afford 1M CIS contributions, but i can probably provide 100k of contributions every now and again [17-Jan-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: if you're interested in providing any upkeep items or logistics help let me know, though I'll warn you that I'd be buying from the lowest bidder to keep taxes as low as possible, so there's only some materials that would be profitable [17-Jan-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's fine, i'd be willing to sell some materials at cost. i might not make anything useful for upkeep, but i'll try to find you on UFO discord to coordinate there [17-Jan-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: sounds good :) [17-Jan-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sully2306** left.* [17-Jan-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***semvandelft** left.* [17-Jan-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maartenvang** joined.* [17-Jan-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lostythelost** left.* [17-Jan-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pr3tzL** left.* [17-Jan-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FalconPac** left.* [17-Jan-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XV0ID** joined.* [18-Jan-24 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anton123k** joined.* [18-Jan-24 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kennethx** joined.* [18-Jan-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xaeoz** joined.* [18-Jan-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iniquitous** left.* [18-Jan-24 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user604a6be7de** left.* [18-Jan-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0d84d6b582** left.* [18-Jan-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Vote for CptColeslaw. I am in Contact with him and I am sure he will do well. Of course I will support him during the start. [18-Jan-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you have my vote, @CptColeslaw ! [18-Jan-24 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: <3 thanks friends. happy to help [18-Jan-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sheff_sp** joined.* [18-Jan-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Bring hydrogen prices down please cptcoleslaw [18-Jan-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: are we gonna have new governor on Katoa? [18-Jan-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what prices do you want to see @Deckss ? [18-Jan-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Anything 100 or below [18-Jan-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: for a natural resource prices above 110-120 is absurd [18-Jan-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: natural resource like hydrogen [18-Jan-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: side note, @DasRallum you have been doing a great job on Katoa, I'll miss seeing your name filling all the past governor positions on the election screen [18-Jan-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, a round of applause (maybe a round of ALE?) to @DasRallum [18-Jan-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***marko.sil** left.* [18-Jan-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 120 FE here on Katoa, will fill any LM ads I see tomorrow for it at >500/u or better [18-Jan-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***toONiichan** left.* [18-Jan-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: @DasRallum Thanks for your effort here on Katoa [18-Jan-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @nuke86 i'll buy it all at that price [18-Jan-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: @DasRallum lets build him a statue in space [18-Jan-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jaguar67v** joined.* [18-Jan-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemi** left.* [18-Jan-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OneBitCyber** joined.* [18-Jan-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***waltsawesome** joined.* [18-Jan-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **waltsawesome**: how do i buy the stuff i need to build pioneer harbitation [18-Jan-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragon1232** left.* [18-Jan-24 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: You'll need to buy the parts at the Benton CX then fly them back to your base. If you're following the tutorials it will eventually explain that but it's not a bad idea to go ahead and fly a ship to the CX (use minimum fuel) to speed things up [18-Jan-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowKnights**: anyone selling stl fuel at [18-Jan-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowKnights**: katoa [18-Jan-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i normally fly it to BEN to sell, but if you need some, i have some to sell [18-Jan-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: I have some also, just had my production finish up 500 stl [18-Jan-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Just posted some SF.CI1 on the local market, let me know if you need more [18-Jan-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: theres like 400k buys @ 10.00 lol [18-Jan-24 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***McBlayne** left.* [18-Jan-24 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Thanks everyone. :-) I didn't do much but only kept things running that neke86 already established before me. [19-Jan-24 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You’ve done the job far longer now! [19-Jan-24 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: enjoy the iron eminence :) [19-Jan-24 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8e3134af66** left.* [19-Jan-24 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Selba** joined.* [19-Jan-24 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Souce_** joined.* [19-Jan-24 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wickskiracer**: @dasrallum o7 [19-Jan-24 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user029a603ccb** left.* [19-Jan-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swano** left.* [19-Jan-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamergo** left.* [19-Jan-24 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: Hey do we have any decently big cooperations here? well i have no idea how they work yet but i would love to get into that now and support a "local" coop is thats a thing [19-Jan-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah, there's plenty of corps operating in this area! lots of good options depending on what kind of collaborative play you like. I'd ask on the UFO discord, that's where a lot of community conversation and corp recruiting happens [19-Jan-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: how do i get into that discord? [19-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Topher2112**: @flash, join the official discord and from there you can join ufo's discord [19-Jan-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Cold_Mace** joined.* [19-Jan-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://discord.com/invite/eTBaEVhG [19-Jan-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hey psssst come ere [19-Jan-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [19-Jan-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: wanna buy some metal halide lighting systems? [19-Jan-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I’m making twice as much as the next person in the game and they’re not really selling [19-Jan-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dont want them going to traders necessarily to be flipped for profit later [19-Jan-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: What are they used for? [19-Jan-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ill flip them for profit though i have no idea what they are [19-Jan-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: MHL - Construction Parts [19-Jan-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't have any immediate use for them. [19-Jan-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ill take some [19-Jan-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: :) [19-Jan-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***big_toenail** joined.* [19-Jan-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GPS11** joined.* [19-Jan-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GPS11** left.* [19-Jan-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there is exactly 1 thing you can use them for :D [19-Jan-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: this is a good planet for HYF, that's a good deal [19-Jan-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: wait I thought this was Nem chat xD don't build HYF here, lol [19-Jan-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: what's your price neke? [19-Jan-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: can I not cancel a buy that hasn't been filled? [19-Jan-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: n/m [19-Jan-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erzrig** left.* [19-Jan-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rove_Keelin** left.* [19-Jan-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oobleer** joined.* [19-Jan-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Istvann** left.* [19-Jan-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aggressively_Memeing** joined.* [19-Jan-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talakzuul** joined.* [19-Jan-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1e761204e9** left.* [19-Jan-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Parrelite** joined.* [19-Jan-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: good god 17 hours o~o [19-Jan-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: for galerite [19-Jan-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 17 hours?!?! [19-Jan-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: its insane lmao [19-Jan-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: I guess that happens when I just recently installed [19-Jan-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: im only a few weeks in and got mine down to 13 hours [19-Jan-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: @parrelite you a fuel refiner too? [19-Jan-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: byeah [19-Jan-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: good luck [19-Jan-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: lmao should I have chosen something else? [19-Jan-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: nope its a good profession but theres alot of us here [19-Jan-24 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: but unfortunatly H prices are on the rise [19-Jan-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parrelite**: space stocks [19-Jan-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: H was around 100 when i started [19-Jan-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: now its hovering 120-125 [19-Jan-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: less profits for us selling fuel [19-Jan-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I feel like fuel production doesnt get lucrative until you get a 2nd base down and can get H and HE3 on your own. [19-Jan-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: dont think doing everything yourself is very profitable [19-Jan-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: maybe H yes but not HE3 [19-Jan-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Or a 2nd base that you can use to feed yourself, one of the two. [19-Jan-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: A closed loop is always going to more profitable at scale. [19-Jan-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: do anyone have some Maize for sale?, i need at least 11 Maize, if you have some i'd like to buy, i placed an order for 11 Maize for 322CIS at Benten Station Commodity Exch, feel free to fill my order there [19-Jan-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: very specific amount [19-Jan-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: i wouldnt want to waste another CIS for extra maize, although the request only demand 25 Maize (it will expire in 7 days) [19-Jan-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: However if you can make adequate fuel for yourself, and enough capital to work with, Benten - Hortus station arbitrage has 20% potential on a few choice items. [19-Jan-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i only have my base here on Katoa and am making huge profits working with player instead of CXL selling [19-Jan-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: how many buildings? [19-Jan-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gepard_Landau**: RAAAHH more fuel refiners [19-Jan-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: Katoa?, i built my base on Katoa too [19-Jan-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: this is Katoa chat [19-Jan-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 4 buildings [19-Jan-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: oh yes, i forgot about it [19-Jan-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 2-1-1? [19-Jan-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ? [19-Jan-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 2 col, 1 ext, 1 ref [19-Jan-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ? [19-Jan-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: yep [19-Jan-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 4 buildings not including habs [19-Jan-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Me too. 9hrs away from a 2nd extractor [19-Jan-24 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i dont see the need for another one my next building will be refiner or collecter [19-Jan-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: @CousinEddie and @XVOID i wouldn't mind setting up a crop here on Katoa if you guys want [19-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Corp* [19-Jan-24 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: @parrelite you too [19-Jan-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can't build a corp HQ on katoa [19-Jan-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: :( [19-Jan-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: yannick then [19-Jan-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: closest [19-Jan-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i dont know how corps work really ive tried to join 4 but they are so inactive that they wont respond [19-Jan-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: can't do it on yannick either -- corp HQs need to be outside of faction space [19-Jan-24 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: gotcha [19-Jan-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr_ZERO** joined.* [20-Jan-24 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ViperAce** left.* [20-Jan-24 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DONNI** left.* [20-Jan-24 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Makinamy** joined.* [20-Jan-24 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deathsinger90000** joined.* [20-Jan-24 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xxxraj** joined.* [20-Jan-24 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ermiller13** left.* [20-Jan-24 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hell2o** left.* [20-Jan-24 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fridays** left.* [20-Jan-24 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf861564c11** left.* [20-Jan-24 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sungeek** left.* [20-Jan-24 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Juicy_Phil** joined.* [20-Jan-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8d4f86b53e** left.* [20-Jan-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Topher2112**: Anyone need shipping to Etherwind from Katoa leaving in 16m [20-Jan-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GPS11** joined.* [20-Jan-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zimmerbimmer** joined.* [20-Jan-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GPS11** left.* [20-Jan-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GPS11** joined.* [20-Jan-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roonaux** left.* [20-Jan-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueNinjaSWE** joined.* [20-Jan-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera2a666b807** left.* [20-Jan-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shah_of_Iran** joined.* [20-Jan-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Auftragsgriller** joined.* [20-Jan-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeQuietKid.exe** joined.* [20-Jan-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EmptyMoon** joined.* [20-Jan-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***olpenjorajs** joined.* [20-Jan-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Currse2308** joined.* [20-Jan-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercd08f38b8a** left.* [20-Jan-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc96029860f** left.* [20-Jan-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mullet220** joined.* [20-Jan-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userba1ad10ee6** left.* [20-Jan-24 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daharius** left.* [20-Jan-24 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user72fa236cfa** left.* [20-Jan-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***itsChace** joined.* [20-Jan-24 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ColdWinds** joined.* [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: Hello! [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: I'm new [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hello new [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: im decks [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: So I'm confusee [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: confused [20-Jan-24 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: This seems so complicated [20-Jan-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: its alot more simple once you learn the basics [20-Jan-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: What do I do [20-Jan-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: I got a base [20-Jan-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: did you complete the tutorial? [20-Jan-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: I didn't read much of it [20-Jan-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: Mostly because I didn't understand it [20-Jan-24 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: simple explination of the game is you have your base, you produce stuff, and sell it [20-Jan-24 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: How do i get more resources [20-Jan-24 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: you either buy them or producem them with building [20-Jan-24 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: Where do I buy [21-Jan-24 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: you have to fly your ships to the Benton exchange [21-Jan-24 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: 7 hours!? [21-Jan-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ColdWinds**: this game is giving me a headache [21-Jan-24 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: its not for everyone [21-Jan-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: how long should I stay. in the loop of just selling fuel and buying things I need to produce more fuel. It's a very slow process. [21-Jan-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rizqiadp** joined.* [21-Jan-24 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GPS11** left.* [21-Jan-24 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Souce_**: if I make a rig at my base can I make water? [21-Jan-24 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: you can extract water [21-Jan-24 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Souce_**: right cool cool [21-Jan-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FozziOne** joined.* [21-Jan-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragon_Emperor** joined.* [21-Jan-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragon_Emperor** left.* [21-Jan-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @Deathsinger90000 Scaling your company takes a delicate balance of time, capital, and resources. I think the general consensus is 30-40 days building your first base before building a 2nd. [21-Jan-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm 14 days in and really wishing I had a Hydrogen source, but I simply can't afford those materials w/o producing much greater volumes. [21-Jan-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [21-Jan-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Even building for settlers and providing resources for 100% efficiency is going to take some time. [21-Jan-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: So what should be my next steps? Should I buy the required materials for a settler hab or just continue the loop for. a decent amount of time and when I have a good enough profit? [21-Jan-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fortable** joined.* [21-Jan-24 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I won't be messing with settlers until I have at least 2 refineries. 1 refinery @ 69% is holding pace with 3 collectors and 1 extractor at the moment. [21-Jan-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'd need a whole lot more infrastructure to handle an additional refinery with the burden and efficiency the settlers bring with them. [21-Jan-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: So my next construction should be a collector or extractor? [21-Jan-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I would/did. [21-Jan-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: You can always sell excess raw materials to subsidize RAT/DW/etc. [21-Jan-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: Extractors and collectors are indeed quite slow [21-Jan-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: They are, but as you get more experts they speed up some. Keep in mind, Katoa isn't resource "rich". [21-Jan-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: how fast does a extractro get galerite? [21-Jan-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Mine are down to 14hr 29min @ 93% eff. [21-Jan-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: collectors get amonia at only 9h 10m per 2 pieces [21-Jan-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: i feel like it's better to invest in them and jutst by the galerite [21-Jan-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: the collectors cost less too [21-Jan-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I have 3, and they are down to 7hr 51min [21-Jan-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Hydrogen is the real problem [21-Jan-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: what h3 isotops [21-Jan-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: No just basic H [21-Jan-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: expensive to buy [21-Jan-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: noI meant H3 isotopes cost [21-Jan-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: is it expensives [21-Jan-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Well yea that's way worse [21-Jan-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://prunplanner.org/ can be helpful for planing out your next set of construction [21-Jan-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: FF fuels is hard to produce then [21-Jan-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: Planet name for prunplanner do I put Katoa or the UV-351a? [21-Jan-24 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: either or [21-Jan-24 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: both will work [21-Jan-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: prunplanner is useful for answering questions like "if i have 3 refineries, how many collectors do i need to keep it filled with AMM" [21-Jan-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: It's bugged forme [21-Jan-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I just figured out how to use this thing lol.... been looking at it for like a week. [21-Jan-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deathsinger90000**: It won't show anything wehn I search th eplanet [21-Jan-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: is a little slow on the planet search and check if you have all planet types active (normally only Rocky is enabled) [21-Jan-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: might also be the new update. maybe clear your cache [21-Jan-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: since 0.6 just released today [21-Jan-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also, this is dumb, but you can't press [enter] to search, you have to click the "search" button [21-Jan-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotYellowMan** joined.* [21-Jan-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***halogen** left.* [21-Jan-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yavouhou** joined.* [21-Jan-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deathsinger90000** left.* [21-Jan-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harrow** joined.* [21-Jan-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FeatheredSerpent** joined.* [21-Jan-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dootix** joined.* [21-Jan-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc6419c5b37** left.* [21-Jan-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user39b7f6850a** left.* [21-Jan-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfbba44124f** left.* [21-Jan-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deckss** deleted this message.* [21-Jan-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlyDOGGY1107** joined.* [21-Jan-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlyDOGGY1107** left.* [21-Jan-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlyDOGGY1107** joined.* [21-Jan-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***houtarooreki044** joined.* [21-Jan-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **houtarooreki044**: Hii [21-Jan-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hii [21-Jan-24 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **FlyDOGGY1107**: Howdy Space Travelers and Conquerors! [21-Jan-24 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: how goes it [21-Jan-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **FlyDOGGY1107**: Pretty nice, fuel productions are at an all time high right now its going smoothly, how about you? [21-Jan-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Scoring some nice cheap hydrogen and fuel is going good aswell just got a second refinery running [21-Jan-24 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **FlyDOGGY1107**: Sounds great, can't wait till i get to that point of getting an second refinery. [21-Jan-24 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Im only 3 weeks in youll get there in no time [21-Jan-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **FlyDOGGY1107**: I am clearly new so i would like to ask if you have any tips for starting? [21-Jan-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Im also considered new, but my advice is take things slow [21-Jan-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: dont try to expand too early [21-Jan-24 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **FlyDOGGY1107**: Thank you [21-Jan-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: and also if you are refining fuel remeber it takes 2 types of workers, settlers/pioneers [21-Jan-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: keep em happy [21-Jan-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **FlyDOGGY1107**: I will keep that in mind thank you very much [21-Jan-24 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOtherMaurice** deleted this message.* [22-Jan-24 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bragosmagos** left.* [22-Jan-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkened16** left.* [22-Jan-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EYEGAMING201** joined.* [22-Jan-24 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yuuta.0712** left.* [22-Jan-24 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KARTHAVEER1** joined.* [22-Jan-24 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DumDutchie** joined.* [22-Jan-24 09:53 AM] 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production has stop completly, like i cant even extract ammonia [26-Jan-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rainstorm**: or anything else [26-Jan-24 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: You may have ran out of consumables. Click on the "workforce" button on your base page and compare your daily requirement to what you have in inventory [26-Jan-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rainstorm**: nop. im good with consumable, and satisfaction is almost at the top [26-Jan-24 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: What's your weight/volume at? Do you have space available? I think it gives an error depending on the reason [26-Jan-24 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rainstorm**: im sorry its my bad i just saw that i have 0 in my bank account haha [26-Jan-24 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Oh I didn't even think about that lol [26-Jan-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rainstorm**: ahhaha ty btw [26-Jan-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Awwyep** joined.* [26-Jan-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: fuel refining cogc even tho less votes? [26-Jan-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: better? [26-Jan-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: very much so [26-Jan-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***scriptwolf** left.* [26-Jan-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vondourden** joined.* [26-Jan-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: congratulations to CptColeslaw [26-Jan-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: congrats CptColeslaw... good luck [26-Jan-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: it should be good luck to us :D [26-Jan-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: im missing materials and have nowhere to getthem from? [26-Jan-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: i just started [26-Jan-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: you'll have to fly there and get whatever you end up purchasing [26-Jan-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: oh, wait, thought this is the Katoa chat, nvm, about any comments about specific CX then [26-Jan-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: wait, it IS the katoa chat xD [26-Jan-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: yep [26-Jan-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: it is [26-Jan-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: disregard the comment about disregarding the comment about which commodity eXchange [26-Jan-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: (if oyu end up setting up shop nearby) [26-Jan-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: i have a problem [26-Jan-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: i need to demolish this thing but [26-Jan-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vondourden**: it says reactor is in use [26-Jan-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: cancel your orders first [26-Jan-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, you said "reactor" not "extrator" -- what's a reactor? [26-Jan-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: congrats CptColeslaw on your new governor hat πŸ‘’ [26-Jan-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: thanks everyone, l post later here and in discord with some plans. I've just upgraded the warehouse so they can now fit a full 3000t, once I have a better idea of what tax income and expenses will be ill share some spreadsheets and some plans. hopefully I'll be able to drop taxes a little once everything settles. maybe free wh? Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― that's the goal at least [26-Jan-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Congrats!!! [26-Jan-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: πŸ‘’ [26-Jan-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: Congratulation Cpt Coleslaw. Me be the force with you. [26-Jan-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: change of power?! [26-Jan-24 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: was it an orderly planned hand over? [26-Jan-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DasRallum**: it was planed... let's see how good. XD [26-Jan-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: at least the enemy planned it thou [26-Jan-24 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***quinreeves** left.* [26-Jan-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sheff_sp** left.* [26-Jan-24 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OneBitCyber** left.* [26-Jan-24 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krabjuk** joined.* [27-Jan-24 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Selba** left.* [27-Jan-24 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beerowulf** left.* [27-Jan-24 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BuffBAzos** joined.* [27-Jan-24 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***godsent** joined.* [27-Jan-24 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daxanon** joined.* [27-Jan-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avgeek001** joined.* [27-Jan-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6ce9f5d0b6** left.* [27-Jan-24 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bunbun7674** joined.* [27-Jan-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keiser** joined.* [27-Jan-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bunbun7674**: hey [27-Jan-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [27-Jan-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nightwave992** joined.* [27-Jan-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freezerassasin** joined.* [27-Jan-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***big_toenail** left.* [27-Jan-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Broehl** joined.* [27-Jan-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mind** joined.* [27-Jan-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Respektschelle** joined.* [27-Jan-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhiteLion256** joined.* [27-Jan-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Banana_Gamer** joined.* [27-Jan-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowKnights**: is anyone selling advanced transistors MAT TRN [27-Jan-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***steyrer_g_zockt** joined.* [27-Jan-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Red_Supras** left.* [27-Jan-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I make them for my own use. I can spare 20. 275 CIS each. [27-Jan-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you are interested send me a contract. 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[28-Jan-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 650 RCO.CI1 I'm willing to part with for 600 CIS/u if anyone is interested [28-Jan-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have a small amount of SIO (85) that i could sell you, in exchange for some of that RCO [28-Jan-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magican1980** joined.* [28-Jan-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SMFBAEWOLF** joined.* [28-Jan-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SMFBAEWOLF**: hi [28-Jan-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [28-Jan-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***idk_how_to_name_myself** left.* [28-Jan-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaese** left.* [28-Jan-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: So does upgrading my HQ for a Manufacturing bonus help me if I'm not doing any manufaturing? [28-Jan-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Topher2112**: If your not doing manufacturing now or any time soon then no [28-Jan-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: What a bum deal. :( [28-Jan-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakejames96** joined.* [28-Jan-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I guess I'll have to make my own water and food at some point [28-Jan-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have 1k sio @neke86 [28-Jan-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kazawaski** joined.* [28-Jan-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fureks** joined.* [28-Jan-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **fureks**: wth this game looks so overcomplicated [28-Jan-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **fureks**: what do u even do in here [28-Jan-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **fureks**: it looks like a nuclear reactor menu [28-Jan-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mind** left.* [28-Jan-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you're running a small (but hopefully growing) company that buys things and sells things to other people! [28-Jan-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **fureks**: oh [28-Jan-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **fureks**: how do i even begin [28-Jan-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MPPrecision** joined.* [28-Jan-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @fureks open a new buffer to the "TRA" (Transmissions) command, which has some tutorials for new users [28-Jan-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrCapybara** joined.* [28-Jan-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheNeedle** joined.* [28-Jan-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SanRaal** joined.* [28-Jan-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jaguar67v** left.* [28-Jan-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tgrisier576** left.* [28-Jan-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xaeoz** left.* [28-Jan-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWolf33** left.* [28-Jan-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shah_of_Iran** left.* [28-Jan-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tomuko** joined.* [28-Jan-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Parrelite** left.* [28-Jan-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Surculus** joined.* [28-Jan-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user82cb679b43** left.* [28-Jan-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeQuietKid.exe** left.* [28-Jan-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrackBaby** joined.* [28-Jan-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***elloco** joined.* [28-Jan-24 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IronChefRamen** joined.* [29-Jan-24 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GalaxyCEO** joined.* [29-Jan-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Londinium1985** joined.* [29-Jan-24 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AtlasGreco** joined.* [29-Jan-24 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ElGrassoGrande** joined.* [29-Jan-24 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ColdWinds** left.* [29-Jan-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rajkchhatwal** joined.* [29-Jan-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TigerClawsX** left.* [29-Jan-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fureks** left.* [29-Jan-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***V_Deluxe** joined.* [29-Jan-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***julietmcfish** joined.* [29-Jan-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rizqiadp** left.* [29-Jan-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Auftragsgriller** left.* [29-Jan-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FozziOne** left.* [29-Jan-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dootix** left.* [29-Jan-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TaskPlays** joined.* [29-Jan-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gods_Machine** joined.* [29-Jan-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fenicks67** joined.* [29-Jan-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***K.Didi98** joined.* [29-Jan-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carnus** left.* [29-Jan-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mabel** joined.* [29-Jan-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deGlutes** joined.* [29-Jan-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRobG** joined.* [29-Jan-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyman** joined.* [29-Jan-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb97733bc9e** left.* [29-Jan-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fafal169** joined.* [29-Jan-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beanbuster** joined.* [29-Jan-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***houtarooreki044** left.* [30-Jan-24 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kevv07** joined.* [30-Jan-24 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EYEGAMING201** left.* [30-Jan-24 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Statik** left.* [30-Jan-24 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KARTHAVEER1** left.* [30-Jan-24 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mullet220** left.* [30-Jan-24 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SH4DOW4RE** joined.* [30-Jan-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zimmerbimmer** left.* [30-Jan-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***T.S.S** joined.* [30-Jan-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vigie** joined.* [30-Jan-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlyDOGGY1107** left.* [30-Jan-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talakzuul** left.* [30-Jan-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashbong**: invasion? 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It isn't my starter planet. Now +119!! [02-Feb-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: if you got on Katoa and it isnt your starter planet you must have waited in queue a long time. [02-Feb-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Or you've just been here since they turned on the lights... :) [02-Feb-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdcbe73ecc1** left.* [02-Feb-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: 234 days ago there was a lull in new players... 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[02-Feb-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: not a game for instant gratification [02-Feb-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: but with patience it is onbe heck of a lot of fun [02-Feb-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hecker**: this feels like antimatter dimensions [02-Feb-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: After about 10 days you'll get experts to drop it to about 15hrs. [02-Feb-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Extractors are not quick. [02-Feb-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hecker**: ok no this is just like antimatter dimensions [02-Feb-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: sorry not familiar with that one [02-Feb-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hecker**: well im making beans and gal now what do i do, and i also got a pioneer thing that lets me have like 100 more pioneers or so [02-Feb-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hecker**: welp, imma go now and come back like after a few days or so [02-Feb-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hecker**: cya guys [02-Feb-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: you definately want to go through the tutorials, those are awesome. [02-Feb-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: good luck [02-Feb-24 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***megaaust** joined.* [03-Feb-24 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sigmaman** joined.* [03-Feb-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***H3llFarmer** left.* [03-Feb-24 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aethius** joined.* [03-Feb-24 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fnlev** joined.* [03-Feb-24 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GermanHerman** joined.* [03-Feb-24 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luckyx** joined.* [03-Feb-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiamondNova** joined.* [03-Feb-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfurrz** left.* [03-Feb-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Traveo** joined.* [03-Feb-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***David787901** joined.* [03-Feb-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kaosaur** left.* [03-Feb-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SMFBAEWOLF** left.* [03-Feb-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David787901**: hello [03-Feb-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [03-Feb-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf627eb53a2** left.* [03-Feb-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rufax** joined.* [03-Feb-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Awwyep** left.* [03-Feb-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuckyManuelo** joined.* [03-Feb-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stralax** joined.* [03-Feb-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluetime** joined.* [03-Feb-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***5l33p3r** joined.* [03-Feb-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **5l33p3r**: hello [03-Feb-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: Hey guys, I've been trying to google the orbital periods of Katoa and Benten, but can't seem to find it anywhere, anyone know what they are? [03-Feb-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grombletombus** joined.* [03-Feb-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **David787901**: where you able to find it? [03-Feb-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDBeedle** joined.* [04-Feb-24 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Canadian_Gamer** left.* [04-Feb-24 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jester5093** left.* [04-Feb-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: No, I haven't been able to find it [04-Feb-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDragonHunnter** joined.* [04-Feb-24 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freestrider** left.* [04-Feb-24 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XioR112** left.* [04-Feb-24 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuxIta** joined.* [04-Feb-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tango797** joined.* [04-Feb-24 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daxanon** left.* [04-Feb-24 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avgeek001** left.* [04-Feb-24 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***To1xeq** joined.* [04-Feb-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TylusPraytor** joined.* [04-Feb-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Katoa is flat. 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[05-Feb-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD that would be impressive. The number of sellers in that market is crazy [05-Feb-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ashleigh.walz** joined.* [05-Feb-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laan** joined.* [05-Feb-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kasi2020** left.* [05-Feb-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ASpider** joined.* [05-Feb-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sophie.altayf** joined.* [05-Feb-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ASpider** left.* [05-Feb-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dante213213** joined.* [05-Feb-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1aa952bb0e** left.* [05-Feb-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user63f9dfae83** left.* [05-Feb-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrCapybara** left.* [05-Feb-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***john123nn** left.* [05-Feb-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deadpool1700** joined.* [05-Feb-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duffzilla** joined.* [05-Feb-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakejames96** left.* [05-Feb-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Retrocobra** joined.* [05-Feb-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MikeyFinz** joined.* [05-Feb-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***H3CTICFusion** left.* [05-Feb-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MikeyFinz**: this game worth it? looks fun [05-Feb-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Yea, it’s fun [05-Feb-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: only fun if you stick with it [05-Feb-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: good news is that a lot of the game is free, if you just want to casually poke about! very low pressure! 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[06-Feb-24 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: HAB buildings [06-Feb-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: In the construction menu [06-Feb-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hallllo** joined.* [06-Feb-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***V_Deluxe** left.* [06-Feb-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Surculus** left.* [06-Feb-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d3c7c2310** left.* [06-Feb-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***noahnoah123455** joined.* [06-Feb-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rob11** joined.* [06-Feb-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **noahnoah123455**: so whats the endgoal of the game [06-Feb-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: make spacestuff, sell it on spacemarkets, and earn spacebucks [06-Feb-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac7f53be3e** left.* [06-Feb-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: You make your own goals [06-Feb-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SUMTINGWONG** joined.* [06-Feb-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6c060944b3** left.* [06-Feb-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user90d9beac2d** left.* [06-Feb-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IronChefRamen** left.* [06-Feb-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: the end goal? have fun of course [06-Feb-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noctis** joined.* [06-Feb-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShadowKnights**: maximum bases and self sufficiency with enough ships to move anything anywhere [06-Feb-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Man the orbital separation really kicks up the travel time something awful. [06-Feb-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: But I'm about to get my 2nd refinery - eeeeeeek [06-Feb-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Titan1** joined.* [06-Feb-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alt_erego** joined.* [06-Feb-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexanderCCCLVI** joined.* [06-Feb-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyman** left.* [06-Feb-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: give it a week or two more, Then you'll feel it for real xD [06-Feb-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sharpie** left.* [06-Feb-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AzzyLuke** joined.* [06-Feb-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saint.Gho** joined.* [06-Feb-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alt_erego**: guys hi i'm new here can someone explain me what is the uctual fuck is this game and what i shoud expect [06-Feb-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Alt_erego**: i need like a million steps to buy a goddamn pack of coffee for my (enforced labour)employees [06-Feb-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, and welcome. did you see the tutorials in the "Transmissions" section? (open up a buffer with the TRA command) [06-Feb-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Martonicus** left.* [06-Feb-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***K.Didi98** left.* [06-Feb-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf8bfef1818** left.* [07-Feb-24 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fafal169** left.* [07-Feb-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kevv07** left.* [07-Feb-24 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Urakuya** left.* [07-Feb-24 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sherby** joined.* [07-Feb-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jheinner** joined.* [07-Feb-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrKurttiz** joined.* [07-Feb-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Alt_erego**: yeah i watched a couple of them, not much but i'm still tryharding [07-Feb-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: feel free to ask questions here in Katoa chat, or in the "Official Apex Help Channel" [07-Feb-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMan23** joined.* [07-Feb-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lordzombei67** joined.* [07-Feb-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lordzombei67**: hi [07-Feb-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [07-Feb-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hammerd265** joined.* [07-Feb-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vaerish**: Well sent off my ship with all supplies needed to open my first new base on another planet, [07-Feb-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: exciting! 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[07-Feb-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Extractors are not fast, but they will speed up with workforce efficiency and the accrual of additional experts. [07-Feb-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: At 97% efficiency it'll run 13hr 47min for each batch of Galerite. [07-Feb-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: However, on other planets where more plentiful resources exist, the time is the same, but the amount is greater. 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My base is on Katao. Can this really be like that? [08-Feb-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://www.prunplanner.org is a great too for testing out base layouts like that Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [08-Feb-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: lots of tradeoffs though, it's just up to you what's most important. [08-Feb-24 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cutefemboy** joined.* [08-Feb-24 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sahkul** joined.* [08-Feb-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Titan1** left.* [08-Feb-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user39054f6ed7** left.* [08-Feb-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eduanbrooks** joined.* [08-Feb-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pixelball** left.* [08-Feb-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @Korboh funny you say that because I 'd have done the opposite and built Collectors and Extractor first and sold raw mats until I got all 6 experts in resource collection, then started refining. [08-Feb-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: The additional bonus on resource collection on a low abundance planet would have been killer. [08-Feb-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: The next big step really is to source my own Hydrogen. [08-Feb-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: you can only have 5 experts in any single category, 6 experts placed total. The 5 expert bonus is huge, so you want to aim for 5 experts in one category, which means not focusing multiple industries on the same planet if you can abvoid it. If you're going to focus that much on Resource Extraction, you'd be better off doing it on a planet with much more natural resources. Here, you're better off focusing completely on Fuel Refining or Manufacturing (to synergize with the Chamber of Global Commerce bonus) [08-Feb-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea the manufacturing bonus for upgrading HQ is big [08-Feb-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DwarfTheLarge** left.* [08-Feb-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***barrettstock09** left.* [08-Feb-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fenicks67** left.* [08-Feb-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbf275ca399** left.* [08-Feb-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Onion79** joined.* [08-Feb-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ferher** joined.* [08-Feb-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5d4651154f** left.* [08-Feb-24 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fridays** joined.* [08-Feb-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SanRaal** left.* [09-Feb-24 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Korboh**: @CPTCOLESLAW Is refining STL Fuel from Hydrogen, Galerite Rock and Ammonia the most profitable thing, that I can do on Katao? 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I don't know, there's all kinds of hindsight that goes through ones mind when playing this game lol [09-Feb-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bandyou** joined.* [09-Feb-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adam11** joined.* [09-Feb-24 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Katoa isn't very fertile so not great for farming, and sheik splitting industries (Agriculture/Food) with farms and FP will be bad for your expert growth. Katoa is a great planet for refining fuel, but the most profitable thing to do here is Manufacturing, since that's what is boosted by the CoGC (Chamber of Global Commerce). BMPs are the cheapest Manufacturing building [09-Feb-24 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that said, you *can* feed a small base on katora by growing your own food. it can be fun to try out, but don't expect to be able to grow enough for a large base [09-Feb-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toscus** joined.* [09-Feb-24 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SushiRobot** joined.* [09-Feb-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LopFaer** joined.* [09-Feb-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc6cb2b335a** left.* [09-Feb-24 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sahkul** left.* [09-Feb-24 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pear** joined.* [09-Feb-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sahkul** joined.* [09-Feb-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OSL21** joined.* [09-Feb-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Green_rider** left.* [09-Feb-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb8ec50d6cf** left.* [09-Feb-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Looney937** joined.* [09-Feb-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Da_Ghost** joined.* [09-Feb-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***etwilliams** left.* [09-Feb-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FUI0908** joined.* [09-Feb-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ambakisye** joined.* [09-Feb-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiamondyBoy** joined.* [09-Feb-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IlBalrog** joined.* [09-Feb-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aso** joined.* [09-Feb-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kallederkoch** joined.* [09-Feb-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbe9d9bbafe** left.* [09-Feb-24 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7cd83be774** left.* [09-Feb-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: WTB 100 OVE on Katoa, Built PT instead of OVE, am basic account so cant creat LM Ad [09-Feb-24 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: stand by [09-Feb-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: If you're Unrated, I don't think it's going to let you buy either from LM [09-Feb-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainSmith153** left.* [10-Feb-24 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zenassiofficial** left.* [10-Feb-24 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Odysseus311** joined.* [10-Feb-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pixelwar** joined.* [10-Feb-24 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: you make a direct cont to me, but I am able to close contracts just not create, still looking [10-Feb-24 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Sent [10-Feb-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: thank you kindly [10-Feb-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirWolpertinga** joined.* [10-Feb-24 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anybody like to sell me 1,000 C @ 400/u ? 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[10-Feb-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: let us know if we can help with any questions about setting up your first base [10-Feb-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wriggles** left.* [10-Feb-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bundi00**: not that easy as expected :) [10-Feb-24 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: fair, the UI is cool but can it's a lot of information. you watched the tutorial videos yet? [10-Feb-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bundi00**: some of them :) [10-Feb-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bundi00**: may i have a few questions the next days :) how fast do i need to expand? [10-Feb-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as fast or as slow as you want! [10-Feb-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you're not really competing with other players (though everyone is buying and selling at the same markets), so really it's up to you [10-Feb-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bundi00**: ok great, but for example for refinery i need stuff to produce. shall i buy first?# [10-Feb-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you primarily doing fuel production right now? [10-Feb-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: if youre using a collector and extractor, you can just buy Hydrogen, and materials for your pioneers and make SF fuel for a while [10-Feb-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bundi00**: yes just fuel first [10-Feb-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: New buildings are expensive so take your time, pace and sequence. Utilize the LM to avoid flying if you can. 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[14-Feb-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Use command "mat h" [14-Feb-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i need to study more in german class [14-Feb-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luminight** joined.* [14-Feb-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: H kann man leider nur mit COLs oder selten RIGs aauf planeten mit entsprechenden vorkommen gewinnen [14-Feb-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***noahnoah123455** left.* [14-Feb-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***the_shadowknight9** joined.* [14-Feb-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zyx-hellcase.com** joined.* [14-Feb-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SUMTINGWONG** left.* [14-Feb-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Buying 4 BSE & 4 BDE [14-Feb-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***General_X** joined.* [14-Feb-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackdaggers** joined.* [14-Feb-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AzzyLuke** left.* [14-Feb-24 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ariunix** joined.* [14-Feb-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRobG** left.* [14-Feb-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duffzilla** left.* [14-Feb-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noctis** left.* [15-Feb-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaLeSaZs** left.* [15-Feb-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deadpool1700** left.* [15-Feb-24 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8a085da0d3** left.* [15-Feb-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vidoqc_Space_Industry** left.* [15-Feb-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midgehunter** joined.* [15-Feb-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDragonHunnter** left.* [15-Feb-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMan23** left.* [15-Feb-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oak_Ridge** joined.* [15-Feb-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***APARELLE** joined.* [15-Feb-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AoifeT** joined.* [15-Feb-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: CptColeshaw - are you planning to run for Gov? [15-Feb-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dishevelled** left.* [15-Feb-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sukol** left.* [15-Feb-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alezineo** left.* [15-Feb-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: ...yeah, forgot that's something I'll have to manually do every month. I've got to many inputs stocked up to give up now, lol [15-Feb-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: hello [15-Feb-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hello [15-Feb-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: Thought I'd ask why the two candidates wanted to run. I'm pretty new so i don't really everything you guys do. So im just trying to get some information on this so i can vote with at least a little forthought. [15-Feb-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: You need pro to vote but they run to build up the planet for us [15-Feb-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: good to know and that mmakes great sense [15-Feb-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: the pro part [15-Feb-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: They control upkeep, taxes, fees and bunch of other stuff [15-Feb-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: So, CptColeslaw doesn't seem to be charging us alot and I have the workers i need. Considering this i'm curious what Backfire_Shot brings to the table because he's winning by one vote so far. [15-Feb-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: CptColeslaw is the right choice here, not oto be mean to BackFire but he doesnt have a Corp and is only 43 days old [15-Feb-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: im in a corp with him so i might be slightly bias [15-Feb-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: CptColeslaw tries to keep taxes as low as possible and everything upkept [15-Feb-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: that was one of my other concerns... and he happens to be winning at the moment [15-Feb-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: unless i am reading this wrong [15-Feb-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: once people see hes running they will switch votes [15-Feb-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: ok now tied lol [15-Feb-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hopefully [15-Feb-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: in case of a tie does it go to the incumbant? [15-Feb-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: no idea [15-Feb-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: im omly 50 days old [15-Feb-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: did you get pro? [15-Feb-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: yup its 1 day and 5h from running out [15-Feb-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: gonna renew it [15-Feb-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i recommend pro if you are really liking the game and want to explore the social part of the game [15-Feb-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: would you mind telling me a bit of how i might benifit from pro as a new player? I like the voting thing that's definately a big step in the right direction. But ?I would assume there are other things even someone a few days old might benifit from. [15-Feb-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: https://prosperousuniverse.com/premium is all the features {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/premium Prosperous Universe | The Economic Space MMO In Prosperous Universe, you are the CEO of your own spacefaring company. Explore the galaxy, design spaceships, forge alliances, and most importantly: produce, trade, transport, and profit. Manage your business through a highly customizable user interface named APEX, accessible via web browser. Contribute to a purely player-driven MMO economy in... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/iw6GWFhfbXVxv9pGxGE1JgF_0dDoqQLVZGppgAEL7-U/https/prosperousuniverse.com/og/image.jpg [15-Feb-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I know you get ships and can make more bases but at the moment that doesn't help. ok i'll look there. thank you [15-Feb-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Reoccurring orders is a Big thing [15-Feb-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: They should have included the right to vote on there i think of all i read there. The one thing i know is missing is the only reason i might get pro sooner rather then later. [15-Feb-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: get pro and join a corp they will help you grow a ton [15-Feb-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: thats how i have 3 bases at 50 days old [15-Feb-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: the rest of those tings i can't afford anyway. But the reoccuring ques sounds useful [15-Feb-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: oh, if you don't mind another newb question I donated some MCG to something on the planet could you clarify what that was for i figured it was some kind of infrastructure. [15-Feb-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I happened to have a surplus because im new and figuring things out lol [15-Feb-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Thats probably what it was, everyone can help upkeep the planet and CptColeslaw loves every donation [15-Feb-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: do you happen to know how i could navigate back to that? I don't remember how i got there lol [15-Feb-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: POPI UV-351a [15-Feb-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: in a buffer [15-Feb-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: k i know how to make those i'll put it in a page thank you [15-Feb-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: oh that's just the planet thing [15-Feb-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: kewl thanks [15-Feb-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: awesome that was exactly what i was looking for. I really appreciate the help [15-Feb-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: :) [15-Feb-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: ?I don't want to monopolise your time unwwantedly, so if you wouldn't mind another question(s) about corporations? [15-Feb-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ? [15-Feb-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: Ok so you said joining a corporation could help me grow my company and that's all great and good I can see how that is benifitial but how could I also contribute to the corporation. How does that work? [15-Feb-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I guess i am asking by what means is help given and what means is set up to also be of help. [15-Feb-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: depends on the corp, but for mine we have our own trading prices [15-Feb-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: you can buy and sell things at lower prices and grow a lot faster [15-Feb-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I take it the corp is bigger then this planet. I'm a fuel manufacturer. [15-Feb-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: actually i guess system is more accurate. [15-Feb-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: yes [15-Feb-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: the corp that im in is all around the galaxy and we govern differnt planets [15-Feb-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I looked at your planets/bases. I assume you make fuel because your here. What else do you make? [15-Feb-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: fuel and chemicals [15-Feb-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: is there reason you didn't go for H or HE3? [15-Feb-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: my corp [15-Feb-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: very low prices [15-Feb-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: oh so you just purachase those. [15-Feb-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i get everything i need and i can expand without fuel costs [15-Feb-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: sell the extra to my corp [15-Feb-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: at the moment I get AMM and GAL to make SF and purchase H. I was conciding going for H on my second base when my company can afford it. but i think that's a ways off. [15-Feb-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: What does a corp look for when they are recruiting? [15-Feb-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: sorry my typing leaves much to be desired lol [15-Feb-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Each one has a different requiremts and different benefits mostly be a team player [15-Feb-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: that makes sense. I thought there might be more to it then that idk why though lol [15-Feb-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: pretty much everyone on this game is super friendly and willing wo work with you [15-Feb-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: if you need any help or have questions just message me I check a few times a day [15-Feb-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I appreciate it. [15-Feb-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: oh i do have one pressing question [15-Feb-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: ?I accepted a contract with the npc that I cannot fill without significant loss. What happens if I choose to ignore it completely? [15-Feb-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: nothing [15-Feb-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I did that once too [15-Feb-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: Good ?I was about to go to market and buy what I needed just to fill this thing thanks [15-Feb-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: oh and one more I have a different contract to Provision SF how do I find the ship its supposed to go on or how do I give the SF to the contract issuer? again its an npc contract [15-Feb-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: Sorry I should move this along to the help channel. You've been very patient. thank you so much [15-Feb-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: im confused at your question [15-Feb-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I got it answered in the help channel but ty [15-Feb-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: great [15-Feb-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I wanted to know how contracts work. ?I guess they just take it from inventory when the timer elapses if its there [15-Feb-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: if you have the stuff in your base you just hand it over and thats that [15-Feb-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I thought i might have have to physically move it from one inventory to what ever contract inventory there might have been. [15-Feb-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: they said its removed from my inventory automatically [15-Feb-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: nope just press the fulfill button and its done [15-Feb-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: so i just have to be sue its made and available i guess [15-Feb-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: oh ok [15-Feb-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: that makes better sense [15-Feb-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: join the discord too there are lots of people there to help [15-Feb-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: and you can send screenshots if needed [15-Feb-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: I still have 6 days but its the first contract i have to actually give something in so i was worried i wouldn't know how to transfer the inventory [15-Feb-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tired_science_Teacher** joined.* [15-Feb-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: welcome [15-Feb-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: hello [15-Feb-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tired_science_Teacher**: Hello [15-Feb-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tarvos**: be back later [15-Feb-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Everyone make sure to look at who you are voting for. One of the candidates has no corp and is barely a month old. We already can provide all CoGC and POPI requirements… can the other candidate? I doubt it [15-Feb-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: so weird [15-Feb-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: i was really confused that we had 2 candidates at all .-. [15-Feb-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Weird transition time but CptColeslaw took over last election with support from our previous governor. With that support comes connections to fund our upkeep and CoGC. [15-Feb-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rdna123** joined.* [15-Feb-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luboo5ness** joined.* [15-Feb-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gralkeni** joined.* [15-Feb-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gralkeni**: Hello [15-Feb-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hello [15-Feb-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gralkeni**: I chose the Victualler to start as, anyone have tips? 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[16-Feb-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: so your supporting fuel on Katoa now XD what a betrayel [16-Feb-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlphaQueueUp** joined.* [16-Feb-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: i thought you where a defendor of Katoan Manufacturing lol [16-Feb-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: one of our best has turned against us XD [16-Feb-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: I could start listing some, though only started a couple of days ago, so don't expect much :p [16-Feb-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: on an SF contract though so gonna take a couple more days [16-Feb-24 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fritzify** joined.* [16-Feb-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I list it all the time but no one ever buys it. [16-Feb-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AceOfTrades** joined.* [16-Feb-24 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AceOfTrades**: Hello! Fuel Engineer here. Starting out, let's see where we get! [16-Feb-24 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome in [16-Feb-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saint.Gho** left.* [16-Feb-24 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jieirn** left.* [16-Feb-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TeemoTime** joined.* [16-Feb-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***null_anomaly** left.* [16-Feb-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: woah hang on [16-Feb-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need the fuel to ship all these manufactured items! [16-Feb-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: posted a couple k while i diversify into manufacturing ;p [16-Feb-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Onion79** left.* [16-Feb-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vsav** joined.* [17-Feb-24 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user967f3d62f8** left.* [17-Feb-24 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whipgazer** joined.* [17-Feb-24 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osyrus_Rex** joined.* [17-Feb-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: @neke86 you know im jokeing :) [17-Feb-24 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yoshioka**: To increase availabole area, do I need to increase the number of bases? And if I've maxed out the number of bases, do I need to increase the HQ license? How do I add a base? And how do I buy a new permits? [17-Feb-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: with free permits you can either expand a base by 250 are up to a max of 1000 area or you can build a new base on another planet with 500 area [17-Feb-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: to build a new base you need to load the required mats on a ship fly there and then build the base you have to check if the planet has availeble plots though [17-Feb-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: you get more permits by upgrading your HQ [17-Feb-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: type HQ in a new buffer to see what you need for that [17-Feb-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yoshioka**: Your explanations are very clear! Thanks a lot! [17-Feb-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yoshioka**: So we're limited to 1000 areas per planet? Or can I go higher with a PRO subscription? 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[17-Feb-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: You'll have your hands full for a good 60days before that is a real possibility. [17-Feb-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2741f1956a** left.* [17-Feb-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user37cb29c739** left.* [17-Feb-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user66458cef29** left.* [17-Feb-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: How long is a Period on the Financial Reports, 1wk? [17-Feb-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Knarfaction**: yes 1 week [17-Feb-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OSL21** left.* [17-Feb-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Da_Ghost** left.* [17-Feb-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FUI0908** left.* [17-Feb-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechScribe** joined.* [17-Feb-24 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cleric0101** joined.* [17-Feb-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user515862a0f8** left.* [17-Feb-24 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SomeRacerGuy**: I have question. I recently had 2 contracts to deliver shipments that i could not fulfill and the contract have been terminated. But now the shipments still exist in my inventory taking up space, have can i get rid of them since the contracts are void anyway? [17-Feb-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lordzombei67** left.* [17-Feb-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InterGalacticWolf** joined.* [17-Feb-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fridays** left.* [17-Feb-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pyx3e** left.* [17-Feb-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: was the contract with a player or just a faction contract? 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[19-Feb-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I had that posted, no lie, 8 seconds. 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Now what? : ) [22-Feb-24 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LunarFox** joined.* [22-Feb-24 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: Great work! Now make some money. :-) [22-Feb-24 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ardrii** joined.* [22-Feb-24 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user239a9f1c45** left.* [22-Feb-24 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cyber446** left.* [22-Feb-24 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: and some plans [22-Feb-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***davidan** joined.* [22-Feb-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***skrub** joined.* [22-Feb-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Samyde88** left.* [22-Feb-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Valera26885222** joined.* [22-Feb-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JujunazBeuk** joined.* [22-Feb-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tyrogue07** joined.* [22-Feb-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PadreSal** left.* [22-Feb-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JesusChrist** left.* [22-Feb-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***the_shadowknight9** left.* [22-Feb-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user557b8e25ed** left.* [22-Feb-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnknownBrother** left.* [22-Feb-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frischer_Prinz** joined.* [22-Feb-24 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CO SGAL [26-Feb-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cucumber** joined.* [26-Feb-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf7127b9657** left.* [26-Feb-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fitzpatrick** joined.* [26-Feb-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Konniver** joined.* [26-Feb-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitzpatrick**: How do i collect material after purchase on exchange? [26-Feb-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: If you have a ship there, or a warehouse rented, then the goods will just apear there. Otherwise check your contracts [26-Feb-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: a contract should have appeard for the goods, once you have somewhere to put them, you can open that contract and click 'fulfil' to pick them up [26-Feb-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Fitzpatrick**: thank u:) [26-Feb-24 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LilyPie** joined.* [26-Feb-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Licher** left.* [26-Feb-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B_Rent184** joined.* [26-Feb-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bo2006** joined.* [26-Feb-24 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pavalineox** left.* [26-Feb-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf6560dc8de** left.* [26-Feb-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Surnag_KR** joined.* [27-Feb-24 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user02e5ff594c** left.* [27-Feb-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maximilianffs** joined.* [27-Feb-24 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***42cheese** joined.* [27-Feb-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user667227f0f2** left.* [27-Feb-24 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jack934** left.* [27-Feb-24 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrandWind** joined.* [27-Feb-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seba06** left.* [27-Feb-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user232a887107** left.* [27-Feb-24 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vioraen** left.* [27-Feb-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LilyPie** left.* [27-Feb-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Super cheap H.CI1 and FF.CI1 on local market, i calculated wrong and need like 20 more CIS lol [27-Feb-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kabar** left.* [27-Feb-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: running tight margins, i see :) [27-Feb-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tired_science_Teacher** left.* [27-Feb-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skelatho** joined.* [27-Feb-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Probly too aggressive of an expansion haha, trying to move my fuel refining [27-Feb-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrosBen** left.* [27-Feb-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eagles666** joined.* [27-Feb-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: LM- Buying 2 BSE for $3k CIS [27-Feb-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all set [27-Feb-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MarlonLima** left.* [27-Feb-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: why 3k? [27-Feb-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: especially in cis [27-Feb-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a reasonable price, just slightly higher than CX prices [27-Feb-24 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Theyve been about 1500 in CI1 for several weeks. Plus, I was 2 short, and needed it. [27-Feb-24 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: What do they normally go for? [27-Feb-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 0.0.0. [27-Feb-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: maybe Around 1k [27-Feb-24 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: Lower if some big old player or old corp crashing the market for fun [28-Feb-24 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RSA_129** left.* [28-Feb-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarmat** joined.* [28-Feb-24 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TehTarik** left.* [28-Feb-24 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shock2024** joined.* [28-Feb-24 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joku** left.* [28-Feb-24 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ankou29000** left.* [28-Feb-24 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grey1** joined.* [28-Feb-24 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WhitePhoenix** left.* [28-Feb-24 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DKsimi_** joined.* [28-Feb-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BazingaFish** joined.* [28-Feb-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SaltedPB** left.* [28-Feb-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Remedy8899** left.* [28-Feb-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MORIN_6791** left.* [28-Feb-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useref4d87ccd7** left.* [28-Feb-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: thanks for the H, shilerhobbs [28-Feb-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qball117** joined.* [28-Feb-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***evanperson223** joined.* [28-Feb-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Errons1** joined.* [28-Feb-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: No problem! [28-Feb-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: wait i dont remember trading with you haha, did you need some? i can probly do smaller batches at 80 CIS [28-Feb-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user13903f41f5** left.* [28-Feb-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rtyphantom** joined.* [28-Feb-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'll buy H @ 80... define a small batch? [28-Feb-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AceOfTrades** left.* [28-Feb-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Like maybe 200-300 every 3 days ish [28-Feb-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: so probly sell in batches of 100 @ CIS 8,000 [28-Feb-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Ill shoot you a contract when I run low. I just bought 200 the other day. I burn about 36/day, soon to be 54. 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[29-Feb-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OG_MRVN** joined.* [29-Feb-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: below 80% they start to slow down, so i try to do repairs around 82% [29-Feb-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bazinga_** left.* [29-Feb-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***meinyaa** joined.* [29-Feb-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Blanko1230**: oh damn, i thought that was your contract. nvm then. [29-Feb-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: how much does it cost to repair? [29-Feb-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: to repair ships, click on the ship name in FLT to see the repair cost. to repair buildings, click on the 'Buildings" button in the base buffer to see the repair costs [29-Feb-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that shows itemised cost, not currency cost [29-Feb-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes. well, the price for things can vary a lot :) [29-Feb-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but as a new player, you'll be buying all of those materials from the Benton Station commodity exchange [29-Feb-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: true that [29-Feb-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (later on, you might be manufacturing some of those materials yourself, so you won't have to buy them) [29-Feb-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: nah im not going into that [29-Feb-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: ill be going into dif manufacturing [29-Feb-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: predominantly fuel is ma plan [29-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: bc if anything is gonna be constantly in demand, its fuel [29-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's true, everyone needs fuel [29-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: mhm [29-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unfortunately, a *lot* of people make fuel [29-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: well [29-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you can still make a profit anyway [29-Feb-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im sure you understand the idea of scales of economies [29-Feb-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: the more i specialise in fuel, the more profit [29-Feb-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: then ill branch most likely into mining [29-Feb-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: bc again, first sector businesses are safe [29-Feb-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the other thing that people always need is foot and water [29-Feb-24 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: anyway, i like the entrepreneurial spirit, i think you'll like it here :) [29-Feb-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Precise** joined.* [29-Feb-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HENGE_DEE** left.* [29-Feb-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ASSMAN** joined.* [29-Feb-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsFrostyNick** left.* [29-Feb-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc06f787d45** left.* [29-Feb-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: food, water, and fuel [29-Feb-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but yeah, i tried this game ages back and screwed it up, but now ive done an actual business degree etc so [29-Feb-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: maybe i dont this time [29-Feb-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: btw idk if i can do this atm, but bc im not filling my ships inv fully, i can do runs when im shipping for others [29-Feb-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i could use some shipping between my bases but its quite far and idk what your rates are [29-Feb-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: distance? [29-Feb-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: hmmm [29-Feb-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 1 sec [29-Feb-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: i need shipping from griffonstone to BENCX [29-Feb-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 5 jumps? [29-Feb-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: and katoa to YK-266c 8 jumps [29-Feb-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: and soon katoa to griffonstone 5 jumps [29-Feb-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: nay wouldnt be able to help there [29-Feb-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but if im passing by with the inv ill hyu [29-Feb-24 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56ea2521df** left.* [29-Feb-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EternalEngine** joined.* [01-Mar-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rolf_the_Jade** left.* [01-Mar-24 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***unjosh1fy** left.* [01-Mar-24 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user93716a97ea** left.* [01-Mar-24 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shdwm4n** joined.* [01-Mar-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rrikor** joined.* [01-Mar-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lumbraru** joined.* [01-Mar-24 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lumbraru** left.* [01-Mar-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Starhero-Raine** left.* [01-Mar-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***skrub** left.* [01-Mar-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maiiruuu** joined.* [01-Mar-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbbccca0059** left.* [01-Mar-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JujunazBeuk** left.* [01-Mar-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user47bd0d822f** left.* [01-Mar-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hitmanfoehire** joined.* [01-Mar-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: finally I feel like I'm back on track [01-Mar-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tommycar12** left.* [01-Mar-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: been on pretty low funds for atleast a week now, but got plenty of consumables and SF is up and running like never before [01-Mar-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: got 20k CIS too on hand :D [01-Mar-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: next up I'm planning on either focusing on hydrogen on another planet, or maybe setup DW on katoa, not sure if that's worth it though [01-Mar-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hermanek**: DW on Katoa is not a good idea. Better is mine water on Etherwind and do DW on Kw-602c [01-Mar-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vladyrn** joined.* [01-Mar-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aureum_Aquila** joined.* [01-Mar-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac1fd7dddd** left.* [01-Mar-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***connerh13** joined.* [01-Mar-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unitard** joined.* [01-Mar-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dais** joined.* [01-Mar-24 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: afternoon [01-Mar-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Li_Am** joined.* [01-Mar-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Li_Am**: I have no clue what im doing [01-Mar-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: thats not good [01-Mar-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: but thats most of us [01-Mar-24 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Li_Am**: Im figuring stuff out but its just a whole bunch of info at once [01-Mar-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: my account is only about 20 days older than yours so i get it [02-Mar-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hamish007** joined.* [02-Mar-24 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bennyklaus33** left.* [02-Mar-24 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dendavid** left.* [02-Mar-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***J_221** joined.* [02-Mar-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Denarii** left.* [02-Mar-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: kachow! 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I don't even know I would call it a game... more like a commerce simulator. [03-Mar-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: If you're used to Rocket League, Rust, and Among Us... you're not going to want to play this game with the attention necessary to progress. [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im used to seige, csgo, among us, [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and i love the idea of this game [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and im finally back to trying to get into ti [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i had too much work about a eyar ago when i first tried [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but im a bit freer [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and its a lot of fun [03-Mar-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but i suppose you do get some dopamine fried peeps [03-Mar-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuigiS** joined.* [03-Mar-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IG6** joined.* [03-Mar-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user93e8863859** left.* [03-Mar-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zapdos** joined.* [03-Mar-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***natehak** joined.* [03-Mar-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3817732adb** left.* [03-Mar-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3f571ddd8f** left.* [03-Mar-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spaceface** left.* [03-Mar-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfc1b2edc8d** left.* [03-Mar-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IdlePhoenix1645** left.* [03-Mar-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LoopdaCoop** joined.* [03-Mar-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murkys** joined.* [03-Mar-24 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6d93f83306** left.* [04-Mar-24 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sethgooner** joined.* [04-Mar-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apokh** joined.* [04-Mar-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd2e02096f2** left.* [04-Mar-24 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balrog** joined.* [04-Mar-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mokola2003** left.* [04-Mar-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gokzx03** joined.* [04-Mar-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apokh** left.* [04-Mar-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Apokh** joined.* [04-Mar-24 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toxin** joined.* [04-Mar-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Hey, how do I build a base, I just started. [04-Mar-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: ther should be a "build base" window [04-Mar-24 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: (yellow text) [04-Mar-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Yes,I see it, But I want a way to start making money or producing materials. [04-Mar-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: therefore you need a base first^^ [04-Mar-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Don't worry, I made one. [04-Mar-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: I made an order but it's halted. [04-Mar-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Did you go through the tutorial [04-Mar-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: You need to have a place for workers to live, food and supplies for them before they will produce anything [04-Mar-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Im not sure if the tutorial is done but it asked me to press construct, I did then it stopped giving me instuctions [04-Mar-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: *instructions. [04-Mar-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: What did you construct and what are you trying to produce? [04-Mar-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: ther is a windoiw with "recommended buildings" - build these first [04-Mar-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: I made a mineral extractor. [04-Mar-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Is there any way I can get my materials back? [04-Mar-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: you chose a planet with minerals tho?^^ [04-Mar-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Only 1 mineral. [04-Mar-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: yes within the first hour you can just demolish [04-Mar-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: How do I demolish it? [04-Mar-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Do you have a HB1 build? [04-Mar-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: I started earlier today and already needed to fully reset xD [04-Mar-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: BS -> View Base -> Buildings -> Demolish [04-Mar-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Done. [04-Mar-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Is making a basic materials plant first a good idea? [04-Mar-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: then build the recommended buildings [04-Mar-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: there is also a tutorial video for every profession [04-Mar-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Many have suggested to build a BMP here on Katoa since we have manufactoring bonus [04-Mar-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Thanks, I might go watch it. [04-Mar-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: I made all the starter buildings. [04-Mar-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: Okay thanks, will keep that BMP in mind...for ...wehn I have some money^^ [04-Mar-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: starter buildings? [04-Mar-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: Yes the revcommended starter buildings for his profession [04-Mar-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: What should I order first? [04-Mar-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: ...for us ppl not knowing whats all this about [04-Mar-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: order? [04-Mar-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: I made the starter buildings now what do I do? [04-Mar-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: produce stuff I guess [04-Mar-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: What do I produce first? [04-Mar-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I started doing PE.CI1 in my BMP but that was after i started producing H.CI1 [04-Mar-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Thanks. [04-Mar-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: My first start was as FueEngineer but that sucked, I just resettet and now I make food...thats imho mor intuitive [04-Mar-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: (for me as beginner) [04-Mar-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Yeah i started in Fuel but im now switching Katoa to Manufactoring and maybe a bit of construction [04-Mar-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: I want to manufacture and make mine minerals. [04-Mar-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: manufacturer is the most complex...so^^ [04-Mar-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If you end up getting PRO i can sell some cheap H to help get you started ;P [04-Mar-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: good luck [04-Mar-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Making hydrogen is not in my production template. [04-Mar-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I make H if you need [04-Mar-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: Still got PRO^^ so I can do some missions maybe and transport stuff or so from players [04-Mar-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: How do I get pro? [04-Mar-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: Top Right: LIZ [04-Mar-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: okay, need to go home. cya [04-Mar-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Cya [04-Mar-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: o7 [04-Mar-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: o7 [04-Mar-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Liz is not at the top right of my screen. [04-Mar-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: You can open a buffer an type LIC [04-Mar-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: New buffer is in the bottom left [04-Mar-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Im back [04-Mar-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: I didn't know you had to pay for pro. :/ [04-Mar-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toxin**: Well, what is the most lucritive item for me to produce as a beginner? [04-Mar-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: You mean like niche? [04-Mar-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: be careful trying to chase the most lucrative thing -- this can change from day to day depending on the markets. you need enough cash or diversity to ride out market tstrings [04-Mar-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: PE.CI1 for example is not the most profitable but its traded in pretty high volumes [04-Mar-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Buying the H and C at CX plus fees is about 800 CIS for one run so 200 PE for a total profit of approx 610 CIS [04-Mar-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: not accounting for travel and such [04-Mar-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 610 CIS - Travel is not worth it in my opinion [04-Mar-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: note that PE is tiny, though. you can fit 50k PE in the cargo hold of a starter ship, and if you sell it all, that's a profit of 152k CIS per shipment [04-Mar-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cosmicwallnut** joined.* [04-Mar-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbb1aa0d60d** left.* [04-Mar-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nerdrantz92** joined.* [04-Mar-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zitronesf** joined.* [04-Mar-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: afternoon [04-Mar-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bonk_youre_gone** left.* [04-Mar-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***termn8r20003** joined.* [04-Mar-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I love the LM... Everyone should sell me things on the LM. I'll never fly again lol. [04-Mar-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***termn8r20003** left.* [04-Mar-24 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what are ya buying? ;) [04-Mar-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***luxferum** joined.* [04-Mar-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TravisRain** joined.* [04-Mar-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Botond** left.* [04-Mar-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leviyoboi** joined.* [04-Mar-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leviyoboi**: wsg [05-Mar-24 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khuros** joined.* [05-Mar-24 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrueSentrie** left.* [05-Mar-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PaxAnimi** left.* [05-Mar-24 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Udanan** joined.* [05-Mar-24 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rizilla** left.* [05-Mar-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***houttydog** joined.* [05-Mar-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MEACorp** joined.* [05-Mar-24 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Udanan** left.* [05-Mar-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Impregn8** joined.* [05-Mar-24 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapAizen** joined.* [05-Mar-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sk8erBoi87** joined.* [05-Mar-24 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jack_Shaftoe** joined.* [05-Mar-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JellyPotato** joined.* [05-Mar-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***p_rplerain** left.* [05-Mar-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bobwise** joined.* [05-Mar-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bobwise** left.* [05-Mar-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lithium-ion** joined.* [05-Mar-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ButtChugger821** joined.* [05-Mar-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ButtChugger821** left.* [05-Mar-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cucumber** left.* [05-Mar-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user824656d16d** left.* [05-Mar-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @eminence32 PP1/2 building consumables, a couple luxury consumables, basic supplies, H, etc. Nothing crazy, just going through a growth spurt. [05-Mar-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capt.B3B0RP** joined.* [05-Mar-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreekPhilosopher** joined.* [05-Mar-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ethanmilo** joined.* [05-Mar-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedHawk_22** joined.* [05-Mar-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: afternoon [05-Mar-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: yo [05-Mar-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_InFinite_** deleted this message.* [05-Mar-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: eek [05-Mar-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but i removed a rig yesterday so the demand for the workforce is lowered [05-Mar-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: so i can take a day to send it back [05-Mar-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: mf i didnt mean to delete that message [05-Mar-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh well [05-Mar-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: you know what i said [05-Mar-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: managed to clutch without even knowing [05-Mar-24 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: doing some reconfiguration on the base and looking to buy 2 LTA if anyone can spare. Throw up a CONT if you have, Unable to post on LM due to Basic. [05-Mar-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: if you had said that 2 days back id have given [05-Mar-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercf228749ee** left.* [05-Mar-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: heh timing is everything [05-Mar-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jam_Sandwich** joined.* [05-Mar-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: yep [05-Mar-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: for instance, itll take me 7 weeks of pure profits in order to do an expansion [05-Mar-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: nvm, 8 [05-Mar-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It's rough starting out. Prefabs are a killer though. Big upfront costs then catchup for a while. [05-Mar-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: mhm [05-Mar-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: same wit fuel [05-Mar-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I make fuel so I can manage that a litter easier on the fly. [05-Mar-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: LM is nicer than flying to CX [05-Mar-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: mmm yeah i suppose [05-Mar-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4e1526aa4** left.* [05-Mar-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Opil.Ox** joined.* [06-Mar-24 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I would love to expand H production and just sell that here but i cant realy transport much more now [06-Mar-24 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4eea09f8ab** left.* [06-Mar-24 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maximilianffs** left.* [06-Mar-24 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StealManiac** joined.* [06-Mar-24 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea someone else listed 500 H and I jumped on it. Im only going to grow, and use more and more of it so if it's posted, I'm almost certainly buying [06-Mar-24 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GermanHerman**: Eddie, on Katoa you will very very VERY likely never run out of H :) I am there to sell and so are some of my corp buddies. and they are way bigger than me [06-Mar-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iSam87** joined.* [06-Mar-24 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingJoshua** joined.* [06-Mar-24 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GermanHerman**: Buying 5 BBH and 5 BDE for more than on Benton CX, just check local ads [06-Mar-24 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: accepted and delivered [06-Mar-24 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GermanHerman**: thanks! I will name the storage building after you :P [06-Mar-24 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: :D [06-Mar-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dullraf** left.* [06-Mar-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dargon1823** left.* [06-Mar-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BrotToast210** joined.* [06-Mar-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lenny2022** joined.* [06-Mar-24 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lenny2022** left.* [06-Mar-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6be7154390** left.* [06-Mar-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd2f3067f66** left.* [06-Mar-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taj556** left.* [06-Mar-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbc4833dc66** left.* [06-Mar-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: afternoon boys [06-Mar-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Hi [06-Mar-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: wassup [06-Mar-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Thinking if its better to put up habs first or rig and collector then pioneer hab [06-Mar-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: I've got days to decide :) [06-Mar-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: well [06-Mar-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: can you not do both at once? [06-Mar-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I try to have headroom in workforce before adding additional production units [06-Mar-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: yes [06-Mar-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: typically the safer way [06-Mar-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***placeboAIDS** joined.* [06-Mar-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user02e6be2be2** left.* [06-Mar-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user356c85aada** left.* [06-Mar-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eagles666** left.* [06-Mar-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2447c2bf54** left.* [06-Mar-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CharlesB** joined.* [06-Mar-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EwokherdWinda** joined.* [06-Mar-24 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BenGatewood** joined.* [06-Mar-24 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tarvos** left.* [07-Mar-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8581859f75** left.* [07-Mar-24 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mountainfister** joined.* [07-Mar-24 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mountainfister** left.* [07-Mar-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mrturtur** joined.* [07-Mar-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LacisumUtama**: still looking to buy 2 LTA if anyone can spare. Throw up a CONT if you have, Unable to post on LM due to Basic. 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[07-Mar-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: no its just a shit planet for manufacturing [07-Mar-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: doesnt have hydrogen or helium [07-Mar-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I guess its a good thing manufacturing is what I do for a living lol [07-Mar-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i commit [07-Mar-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: things [07-Mar-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: :3 [07-Mar-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: robbery? [07-Mar-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: purgery? [07-Mar-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: incest? [07-Mar-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: weird life man. [07-Mar-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: yes yes no [07-Mar-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: legally cannot say [07-Mar-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: yea good luck with all that. [07-Mar-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Just don’t go bankrupt 😁 [07-Mar-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: pace and and sequence is the trick [07-Mar-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Epokalypse** joined.* [07-Mar-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: xd [07-Mar-24 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ADHDRush** joined.* [08-Mar-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragonseel** joined.* [08-Mar-24 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fafin** joined.* [08-Mar-24 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3be5e91f9c** left.* [08-Mar-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Surnag_KR** left.* [08-Mar-24 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ssr2699** joined.* [08-Mar-24 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anne_99** left.* [08-Mar-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neph** joined.* [08-Mar-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nitrous_24** joined.* [08-Mar-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera24111052e** left.* [08-Mar-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ConcaveSunn** joined.* [08-Mar-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FragileNinja** left.* [08-Mar-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BazingaFish** left.* [08-Mar-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Imperator_Swagustus** joined.* [08-Mar-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Imperator_Swagustus** left.* [08-Mar-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Charlie030** joined.* [08-Mar-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***insert_name_here** joined.* [08-Mar-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edenhall** left.* [08-Mar-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oby** joined.* [08-Mar-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jayme** joined.* [08-Mar-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf252998af0** left.* [08-Mar-24 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Undankes** joined.* [08-Mar-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whats4nxi3ty** joined.* [08-Mar-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***komaras123** joined.* [08-Mar-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZtarLight** joined.* [08-Mar-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***valerievanwolleghem** joined.* [08-Mar-24 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NonRedibimus** joined.* [09-Mar-24 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere1ee89ae7a** left.* [09-Mar-24 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***themadgreaser** left.* [09-Mar-24 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Errons1** left.* [09-Mar-24 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moderator_YT** joined.* [09-Mar-24 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LornMalvoo** joined.* [09-Mar-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Polymoron** joined.* [09-Mar-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Of course I'm 1 MCG short :/ [09-Mar-24 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: never fails [09-Mar-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rwyngo** joined.* [09-Mar-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i have extra MCG [09-Mar-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leonrex** left.* [09-Mar-24 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PARADOX9512** joined.* [09-Mar-24 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user72d36e4836** left.* [09-Mar-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: it's always 1 short! ;) [09-Mar-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shdwm4n** left.* [09-Mar-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Send me a cont for like 200 at your "today only best special price" [09-Mar-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i posted a sell ad, if you still need MCG [09-Mar-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saintz-Co.** joined.* [09-Mar-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Clanka** joined.* [09-Mar-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chippy** joined.* [09-Mar-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sneakyfreeky**: azSXDCFVGBHNJMK,L.;/' [09-Mar-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's a strong looking password [09-Mar-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: XDDDD [09-Mar-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: someone had a strokeeeeee [09-Mar-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ah someone snagged it :/ [09-Mar-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Liivarand** joined.* [09-Mar-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Corsaiiir** joined.* [09-Mar-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Corsaiiir** left.* [09-Mar-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nerms02** left.* [09-Mar-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrHatt** joined.* [09-Mar-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kilstorm** joined.* [09-Mar-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere0bb1a7551** left.* [09-Mar-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3c96408288** left.* [09-Mar-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MR_LOPEZ** joined.* [09-Mar-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WOOD123456** joined.* [09-Mar-24 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unlikejester269** joined.* [10-Mar-24 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DonPalet** joined.* [10-Mar-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hamish007** left.* [10-Mar-24 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Domain** joined.* [10-Mar-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EtozheFisun** joined.* [10-Mar-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EtozheFisun**: hello [10-Mar-24 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midas1616** joined.* [10-Mar-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vladyrn** left.* [10-Mar-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EtozheFisun** left.* [10-Mar-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EtozheFisun** joined.* [10-Mar-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: hello! welcome :) [10-Mar-24 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***J_221** left.* [10-Mar-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dude31278** joined.* [10-Mar-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redlocking** joined.* [10-Mar-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3db28a9ee** left.* [10-Mar-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***john-wilkes-boof** joined.* [10-Mar-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nothing2see** joined.* [10-Mar-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aureum_Aquila** left.* [10-Mar-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Z3nio** left.* [10-Mar-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: Does anyone happen to have like 23 MCG laying around? Happy to pay slightly higher then the going rate for it if it is no trouble [10-Mar-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3b33ce622f** left.* [10-Mar-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JuJu_The_Weaboo** joined.* [10-Mar-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spobo** joined.* [10-Mar-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FunkMaster** joined.* [10-Mar-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: mcg? [10-Mar-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: mineral gonlgnsgns [10-Mar-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that stuff? [10-Mar-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i have some [10-Mar-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: how i gib [11-Mar-24 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SPACE_DUCK1NG** joined.* [11-Mar-24 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IWonder** joined.* [11-Mar-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5d063996af** left.* [11-Mar-24 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gbalvarez** left.* [11-Mar-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***March** joined.* [11-Mar-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Integra** left.* [11-Mar-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf16c1f3ed0** left.* [11-Mar-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Piler** joined.* [11-Mar-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: Its okay I have sorted it now, thanks anyway though [11-Mar-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qball117** left.* [11-Mar-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i sent you a contract for MCG yesterday, if you don't need it, you can reject it [11-Mar-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unitard** left.* [11-Mar-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: so close to my 3rd refinery... eeeek! [11-Mar-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: woo! [11-Mar-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: very nice [11-Mar-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im just slowly chugging along with my singular prod line [11-Mar-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but ill get there too [11-Mar-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: goodjob L3 [11-Mar-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: :3 [11-Mar-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Prefab parts are just so damn expensive... takes a while to save up to add buildings [11-Mar-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: that's why I wish there was a lot more Man Part listings in LM. But I'll take what I can get. [11-Mar-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how many prefabs are you missing? [11-Mar-24 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 12 right now - 6 BSE and 6 BDE. [11-Mar-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Makes me want to build a PP1 just so I can make my own at a higher efficiency. [11-Mar-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i just sent you a contract for 6 BSEs [11-Mar-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: wow, that's too cheap. I'll pay fair market value... no idea what that is for BSE. [11-Mar-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: people in the past have been given me generous deals, so i'm just paying that forward [11-Mar-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: fair enough. Much obliged. [11-Mar-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PickA** joined.* [11-Mar-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asmagor** left.* [11-Mar-24 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taktloss** joined.* [11-Mar-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zapdos** left.* [11-Mar-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: Thanks for sending the contract but yeah i no longer need it. Was very kind though so thanks! [11-Mar-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: glad you got what you needed πŸ‘ [11-Mar-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Success! 3 refineries strong. 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[13-Mar-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Ignore me... ships got another 11 hours flight time lols [13-Mar-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Takuto**: nice username [13-Mar-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CapAizen** left.* [13-Mar-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, you can: once your ship has landed somewhere, you can buy and sell directly from your ship's cargo hold [13-Mar-24 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThatBestWaifu** joined.* [13-Mar-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alixthegreat** joined.* [13-Mar-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Capt.B3B0RP** left.* [13-Mar-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LoopdaCoop** left.* [13-Mar-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ethanmilo** left.* [13-Mar-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedHawk_22** left.* [13-Mar-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***El_BiSSa** left.* [13-Mar-24 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KingCosmo** joined.* [13-Mar-24 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PandaM** joined.* [13-Mar-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PandaM** left.* [13-Mar-24 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freyar** joined.* [13-Mar-24 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jam_Sandwich** left.* [13-Mar-24 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user499e836a76** left.* [13-Mar-24 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zitronesf** left.* [13-Mar-24 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Weather_Man** joined.* [14-Mar-24 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***houttydog** left.* [14-Mar-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bosskiller123** joined.* [14-Mar-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MEACorp** left.* [14-Mar-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1573101470** left.* [14-Mar-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2493ae07db** left.* [14-Mar-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cosmicwallnut** left.* [14-Mar-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userde9a9cb122** left.* [14-Mar-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***maatzor** left.* [14-Mar-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WardN** joined.* [14-Mar-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceWeed** joined.* [14-Mar-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sk8erBoi87** left.* [14-Mar-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Opil.Ox** left.* [14-Mar-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LuigiS** left.* [14-Mar-24 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NonRedibimus** left.* [14-Mar-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Takuto** left.* [14-Mar-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thy_Milkman** joined.* [14-Mar-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bearlyreal** left.* [14-Mar-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azerath** joined.* [14-Mar-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8b6e848ba3** left.* [14-Mar-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***natehak** left.* [14-Mar-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B1ggy_Ch33s3** joined.* [14-Mar-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***james00412** joined.* [14-Mar-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: The buying commodities straight to cargo never works for me. Selling from cargo is fine though [14-Mar-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: buying from where? [14-Mar-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: local market. when you set the default storage to warehouse or a ship it will still just default to your base storage when a buy order is filled :/ [14-Mar-24 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TiBiscuit** left.* [15-Mar-24 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***selkoffins** joined.* [15-Mar-24 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HardCore** joined.* [15-Mar-24 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Razputin** joined.* [15-Mar-24 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mrturtur** left.* [15-Mar-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Player667** left.* [15-Mar-24 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EtozheFisun**: What are difference between factions? 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[19-Mar-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: bases are always named after the planet they are on [19-Mar-24 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taktloss** left.* [19-Mar-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Death2142zerg** joined.* [19-Mar-24 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tarq** joined.* [19-Mar-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Praetorianer1** joined.* [19-Mar-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: daily le radio will again be in the afternoon [19-Mar-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Thanks [19-Mar-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Ready for pick up [19-Mar-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @someracerguy Please check your messages. 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[20-Mar-24 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: I feel like I got one every 16h, now I think it's 20h [20-Mar-24 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neph** left.* [20-Mar-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Konniver**: I read somewhere they gradually slow down to 72h [20-Mar-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neltor** joined.* [20-Mar-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neltor** left.* [20-Mar-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duck.doing.stuff** joined.* [20-Mar-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_GazeboLover** left.* [20-Mar-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***P4rOs** joined.* [20-Mar-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Twertle** left.* [20-Mar-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***elsosa** joined.* [20-Mar-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: Why are spicy herbs so expensive [20-Mar-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: they can only grow on a FRM, and fairly slowly, so demand is usually high. They also require DDT, which is made at a higher tier chemistry building.The things made *from* HER sell for an even bigger markup though, so it's still often worth it [20-Mar-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: FIM and KOM are especially profitable [20-Mar-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: nuts [20-Mar-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***elsosa** left.* [20-Mar-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: You guys got any tips when it comes to the fuel business? [20-Mar-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sosaina** joined.* [20-Mar-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: Wait a minute you're my planet governor bro [20-Mar-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: <3 [20-Mar-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: fuel is rough until you have more bases to supply some of your own inputs. The volume is high, but the margins are really slim, so ever addition expense involved hurts. Honestly, on Katoa you'd make more money building some manufacturing buildings, like BMPs [20-Mar-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: a PPF or 2 would make good money with PSL prices right now, you'd have to buy the PG though. But with Umbra right next door that's not too bad [20-Mar-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: got it, thanks a lot dude [20-Mar-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RafaelMPlayer** joined.* [20-Mar-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sosaina**: o7 Katoa [20-Mar-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MasterPharaoh90** left.* [20-Mar-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fearos** left.* [20-Mar-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***youmymumexeter** left.* [20-Mar-24 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheJamsDude** left.* [20-Mar-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Inuksugaq** left.* [20-Mar-24 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Virgin-Sex_God** joined.* [21-Mar-24 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: After my first 2 FRMs run now and IΒ΄m starting to produce more fruits, than I need for myself if it makes sense to invest in HYF already. What do you think? [21-Mar-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Note to self: 'To keep output snappy, keep them happy' [21-Mar-24 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siitari** left.* [21-Mar-24 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere8a297d9bc** left.* [21-Mar-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rajkchhatwal** left.* [21-Mar-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9ca5ebcb52** left.* [21-Mar-24 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd0d7b02f3f** left.* [21-Mar-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useradf4f1573e** left.* [21-Mar-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FinalCardinal** joined.* [21-Mar-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ConeyLoMa** joined.* [21-Mar-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: grind til you have enough money to comfortably expand [21-Mar-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and then grind some more to expand even more [21-Mar-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kindling** left.* [21-Mar-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blacksmith69** joined.* [21-Mar-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: benten station is so close to katoa, i love this [21-Mar-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at least, with the current orbits [21-Mar-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tivu** joined.* [21-Mar-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drucker**: @Weather_Man, my tip is to steer clear of the fuel business. It is a tough grind that punishes sloppy spreadsheet skills. [21-Mar-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Fuel is a volume business. If you have any time managing a fast food business, you'll be fine. If you have no idea how to run a business, you're probably going to go broke.. [21-Mar-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sosaina**: It's food production a good start here? [21-Mar-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sosaina**: my first time playing [21-Mar-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Katoa has a manufacturing bonus, but resources aren't here for it. You CAN grow food here, but there are better places to start that. 2/3 resources needed for fuel are here, but fuel is tough starting out. I think Biogenesis is the choice place to start for food production. [21-Mar-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Biogenisis for Food Production? No... For Food Production start at Proxion, later build a base at Etherwind for H2O, and Food Production at a other Base e.g. Milliways [21-Mar-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sosaina**: And what about the fuel then? [21-Mar-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea don't listen to me about food lol [21-Mar-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Fuel can be done on Katoa, but it's a grind. I do fuel here, and it's a tough start until you get about 10 production lines... then you at least have a little cash to play with. [21-Mar-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Don't get me wrong, 74 days solo and I only make about 4500 SF every 48hrs. [21-Mar-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm sure if you jump in with a Corp early, you can probably grow much quicker with discounted materials. [21-Mar-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I did most of my trading through the CX to start, but now use the LM a ton... much easier, no travel time, etc. [21-Mar-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sosaina**: ok ty! 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[22-Mar-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: time is indeed 1:1 (realtime) [22-Mar-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeanRexxTTV** joined.* [22-Mar-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alixthegreat** left.* [22-Mar-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: If anyone would like to sell me 300 MGS for 120CIS/unit I would greatly appreciate it, my order is at Benten Station [22-Mar-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mosher** joined.* [22-Mar-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MicrosoftExcel2002** joined.* [22-Mar-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***james00412** left.* [22-Mar-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freyar** left.* [22-Mar-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***friendlycrackdealer** joined.* [22-Mar-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***44Garde** joined.* [22-Mar-24 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murkyvolcano** joined.* [22-Mar-24 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B1ggy_Ch33s3** left.* [22-Mar-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Masked_Waffle** joined.* [23-Mar-24 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reubster1** left.* [23-Mar-24 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noideasman1** left.* [23-Mar-24 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JustbetterIG** joined.* [23-Mar-24 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***esfhargh853** joined.* [23-Mar-24 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeVieuxFou** joined.* [23-Mar-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noisyy** joined.* [23-Mar-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Comet_Stellar** left.* [23-Mar-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6a22016835** left.* [23-Mar-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3ba7443613** left.* [23-Mar-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AZOV** left.* [23-Mar-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GermanHerman**: anybody here has 200 DW maybe? I put an ad for 200 for 10k CIS. my dudes are starving :D [23-Mar-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: everyone deserves clean drinking water [23-Mar-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GermanHerman**: <3 [23-Mar-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GermanHerman**: thank you [23-Mar-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb78b790e0c** left.* [23-Mar-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gurke2209** joined.* [23-Mar-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xREEFERSWAGx420** joined.* [23-Mar-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***briatx** joined.* [23-Mar-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Anyone need some ridesharing from Benten to Katoa? I've got a mostly empty ship soon to depart, 295t/470m available. it'll arrive at Katoa in ~20h [23-Mar-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera1810868dd** left.* [23-Mar-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aurealia** joined.* [23-Mar-24 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Masked_Waffle** left.* [23-Mar-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazzaah** joined.* [23-Mar-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: It appears my starting planet doesnt have resources for the starting tutorial building [23-Mar-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: any suggestions? [23-Mar-24 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: restart [23-Mar-24 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: there is a command to restart [24-Mar-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also, if you do it quickly enough (within an hour, i think?) you can deconstruct buildings to get your full set of materials back [24-Mar-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what buildings were you trying to build? 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[24-Mar-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: @Hazzahh the command to restart is "COLIQ", open a new buffer and type "COLIQ" and press enter, then click the text then button to accept, it's a full restart, you keep nothing, fresh company :) [24-Mar-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: If you are starting out on a new planet for manufacturing through BMPs I recommend Benten - Katoa [24-Mar-24 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: Also before you use COLIQ go to the universe map and look through the systems for the best planet to suit your needs [24-Mar-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Have you checked your fuel gauge today? Buy SF in the LM. [24-Mar-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @simdimdim upgrading so we could fit 3000t/m is actually the first thing I did when I got elected here xD I'm pretty addicted to storage space so I'm always down for more, but they're getting pretty expensive. If people want more I'll happily reimburse people at KAWA rates, which is what I balace taxes around, but those rates are really low if you usually use the CX. Better than just donating for free though if you were just going to do that. Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― we'd need 2 more levels though to get an extra unit and that a ton of bfabs at this point [24-Mar-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: out of curiousity, how much do you get per week in warehouse rental fees? 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I'll do what I can though, I think I can get the BDE cheap but the BBH will have to be from donations or from CX [24-Mar-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7d8326679c** left.* [24-Mar-24 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Checked your fuel tanks lately? Buy SF from the LM. [24-Mar-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: wow, no COT.CI1 offers on the CX? [24-Mar-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Racer2k5x** joined.* [24-Mar-24 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LiquidChris** joined.* [24-Mar-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AtlasFlames** left.* [24-Mar-24 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drainbamaged99** joined.* [24-Mar-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc1e9d4ab9f** left.* [25-Mar-24 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Need H for making fuel, check your LM today! [25-Mar-24 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Razernok** left.* [25-Mar-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9c25d5f416** left.* [25-Mar-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 660 FE to offload here, any takers? [25-Mar-24 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Don't ask me what the price is just send a fair contract [25-Mar-24 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kbossm772** joined.* [25-Mar-24 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RezTeKK** joined.* [25-Mar-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's more than 1 full storage facility of iron :) [25-Mar-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can handle it and have sent neke a contract. [25-Mar-24 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My storage on katoa is 31,500t. [25-Mar-24 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lotta tons [25-Mar-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Katoa is my main manufacturing and distribution base. [25-Mar-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Have you considered using the CX as your hub? Unlimited warehouse spots, easy to fly to and from without a planet landing [25-Mar-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I use it as well. Manufacturing requires raw materials and intermediates. As ththese come into Katoa the ships leave with things the other bases need. I treat the CX like any other of my bases. You cannot avoid planet landing. I am not specialized so my ships are carrying a variety of stuff all of the time, in addition to repair fabs. [25-Mar-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw BlueHeeler, i'm thinking of making my next base on Giedi Prime to do some smelting and probably a small amount of construction. any words of wisdom ? [25-Mar-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome to come. There's lots of room. Building and maintenance is expensive (HSE and INS) but it is a good planet for EXT and SME. That is what I do mostly. However, I also have some INC to make carbon and a FS to make things. I bring in other raw materials to keep the FS busy and Titanium Ore as well. [25-Mar-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: WE have someone who is adding POPI to support Technicians and Engineer - at his expense. I only provide for the Infirmary and Safety Station because we have the taxes set at the lowest possible. He pays me to run Immigration Programs. [25-Mar-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: going to try to see if i can make my own INS [25-Mar-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (among other things) [25-Mar-24 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That will help. I make all of my FABS - PP!, PP2, PP3 and PP$. 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[25-Mar-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JellyBiffle** joined.* [25-Mar-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olekek** left.* [25-Mar-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: meow [25-Mar-24 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: The heck is going on... no one is buying any fuel :/ [25-Mar-24 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: Welcome to the fuel business [25-Mar-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I was hoping to avoid the CX, but I'll let it slide this time I guess. [25-Mar-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: We live for the grind [25-Mar-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keruberoxu** joined.* [25-Mar-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: keep ur fuel in the cx til it reaches a high [25-Mar-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: then sell [25-Mar-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: typically 10.40+ is good [25-Mar-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm good at 10.00 right now. When I can make enough for it to make more sense to fly back and forth I will... right now though it doesnt. [25-Mar-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: much easier to unload it 1k units at a time in the LM [25-Mar-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: and if I didnt have an open contract for 39k, I would just let it ride in the LM [25-Mar-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: but I need to pay the contract. [25-Mar-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PsyNami** joined.* [25-Mar-24 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chrisgopher** joined.* [26-Mar-24 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***unclefoca** left.* [26-Mar-24 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lao_Wang** left.* [26-Mar-24 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rock123ra** joined.* [26-Mar-24 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zthomas80** left.* [26-Mar-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: can i delete a accidently set order on local market somehow? [26-Mar-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Apokh**: )how?) 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[27-Mar-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm doing likewise with LST.CI1 I will be continuously dumping into the bid, even if it's at MM. [27-Mar-24 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Similar with H.CI1 but not sure I can overcome the large buy orders any time soon. 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[27-Mar-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Logi743**: i bought something on the station to put in my ship but it doesnt appear in the cargohold [27-Mar-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Konniver**: It would go into your station warehouse (if you rented one), or your contracts [27-Mar-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think it's a known bug that you can't have orders be delivered directly into your cargo hold, despite the option in the UI to request this [27-Mar-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joe01920** left.* [27-Mar-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LogicalMagma** joined.* [27-Mar-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpudGunker** joined.* [27-Mar-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpudGunker**: im so fuckin confused [27-Mar-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi and welcome :) [27-Mar-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpudGunker**: so if i order something how do i recieve it [27-Mar-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you buy something at the commodity market (like Benten Station), your stuff will go into a warehouse there, if you've rented one. if not, it will go into your ships cargo hold, if you have a ship docked there. if not, you'll have a contract to pick up your stuff [27-Mar-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpudGunker**: it seems i shoulda read the tutorial lmfao [27-Mar-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: there's a lot going on in this game... which is really more of a commerce simulator. 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I just started so I'm hovering around 10k all the time haha [28-Mar-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: That's about what I spend on DW for the week. [28-Mar-24 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Actually that's less..., I spend about 14k/wk for water [28-Mar-24 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Virgin-Sex_God** left.* [29-Mar-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: I just logged back on after being gone for 8 months and like.. mmmm [29-Mar-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: I have so much repair to do and im at 400k [29-Mar-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome back :) [29-Mar-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: THanks! [29-Mar-24 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: not really gonna play yet cus still in colledge but just wanted to check up. everything has been stopped and stored for soo long [29-Mar-24 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: production lines getting rusty :) [29-Mar-24 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: Ive stored all my consumables but not sure what else has being going down. ive been getting charged 1500 for my warehouses but thats it [29-Mar-24 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: darn it then. lets hope I got enough cash to restart my line. as I have a big ass stockpile of everything [29-Mar-24 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Georci**: PFFTT I HAVE 4000 GAL [29-Mar-24 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lotta heavy rocks [29-Mar-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zlRacer** joined.* [29-Mar-24 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Compound_Interest** joined.* [29-Mar-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***P4rOs** left.* [29-Mar-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UNGABUNGA** joined.* [29-Mar-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***christiaanviljoen77** joined.* [29-Mar-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***embero** left.* [29-Mar-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Some shipping ads up from BEN to MOR if any interested [29-Mar-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klebestreifen** joined.* [29-Mar-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Quick Question @Ravick, is that selling of space on your vessel? [29-Mar-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No, with shipping ads you are looking for a shipper. Someone with space that is going there can pick the contract. You make it known on the chat that you have space and can create a personal contract for shipping but with the LM you are looking for someone to ship for you. [29-Mar-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Ah thanks. [29-Mar-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Clear as mud.. until I experience it first-hand I'm sure. [29-Mar-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: :) [29-Mar-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raku** joined.* [29-Mar-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there is, unfortunately, no good way to advertise "i have free space to move goods for other people" (except by posting a message in chat here, which sometimes people do) [29-Mar-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe some day :) [29-Mar-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: if you join a corp you can post your offering shipping in their Discord [29-Mar-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kimchi_OP** joined.* [29-Mar-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpaceDiarrhea** joined.* [29-Mar-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Buyer Beware - @someracerguy - Company "Propel" - is a thieving piece of worthless trash. Stole 30k from me, refuses to communicate, refuses to pay it back. Don't buy from him, don't sell to him, don't recruit him. Top Gear Top Tip : Avoid. [29-Mar-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Active once a week it says [29-Mar-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tivu** left.* [29-Mar-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RafaelMPlayer** left.* [29-Mar-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VirusKilo** joined.* [29-Mar-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alphabetadelta** joined.* [29-Mar-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: How do i refuel/ unload fuel from my ships tanks? [29-Mar-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SuperNova.Industries**: click the fuel bars and it'll open up a fuel inventory that you can then drag the fuel into [29-Mar-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Thank you very much [29-Mar-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: lol, fuel efficiency is wonky. just reduced my fuel usage by 150% and timeframe is the same. [29-Mar-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: Yeah, you can switch the direction your ship will travel in to get to the destination, one direction uses the escape orbit to throw your ship so it uses less fuel to reach a high speed [29-Mar-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grimchild** joined.* [29-Mar-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [29-Mar-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @[KAWA] Deckss He was active 5 day/wk up at the time he ripped me off, then fell off the radar after I kept sending him messages and contracts to correct it. [29-Mar-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Sent the guy 10 messages and 4 contracts between 3/16 and 3/24. No responses, all 4 contracts cancelled by @someracerguy [29-Mar-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CptColeslaw** deleted this message.* [29-Mar-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: canceled happens automatically, there's no action taken to get that. and activity is an average over time. sounds like they just stopped playing, not that they're actively avoiding you [29-Mar-24 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavePants** joined.* [30-Mar-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: launching a ship only 1/5th full to Benten station, anyone interested in sending something along? 380t/430mΒ³ available [30-Mar-24 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: I'll send it in an hour, it'll arrive in 1d18h [30-Mar-24 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: ! [30-Mar-24 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stos**: does anyone have an GC to sell at moria? i messed up the recipe and left hortus without taking enough GC :/ [30-Mar-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stos**: benten station not moria [30-Mar-24 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toy4x4funrun** joined.* [30-Mar-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: FYI, I have a ship arriving at MOR later today that is scheduled to return to BEN and right now have 500/500 of free space. Let me know if anyone needs a shipping run from MOR to BEN. Can take on some contracts [30-Mar-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDani** left.* [30-Mar-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @CptColeslaw the contracts were 5-10day contracts, all cancelled after 2 days. I didn't cancel them, and they didn't expire so.... [30-Mar-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I sent a contract 11 days ago, 9 days ago, 6 days ago, and 4 days ago. At no point was more than one contract active. [30-Mar-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **christiaanviljoen77**: hi guys. Im new to this game. I want to sell some galerite rock but the page keep asking me to select a storage facility. However, i am not able to choose at that option. Can anyone asist please. [30-Mar-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Are you trying to sell on the Local Market? [30-Mar-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **christiaanviljoen77**: I Am trying to sell at benten station comodity exchange [30-Mar-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Did you fly your ship there? [30-Mar-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **christiaanviljoen77**: No.... Lol. Do i need to load what i want to sell on the ship and then try again once the ship reach the station? [30-Mar-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yes. [30-Mar-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **christiaanviljoen77**: This game is fascinating but there isn't a lot of guidance for new players. thanks for the assist. [30-Mar-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: To sell in the CX, anything you want to move has to be in your ship, and at the station before you can list it. [30-Mar-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It is a big game... it's more a of simulator, I think. But there's always hundreds of people logged in, and active chat windows to help out. [30-Mar-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **christiaanviljoen77**: do i have to wait till its sold before the ship can move? [30-Mar-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: There is quite a learning curve. But it all makes sense once you have learned it. And we have a community that is very happy to help new folks, so just ask quetstions like this one as you get going. And welcome to the game!! [30-Mar-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: No, once you have placed the sell order, the exchange will hold it until it sells. [30-Mar-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome @christiaanviljoen77 [30-Mar-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **christiaanviljoen77**: Thanks. Im loving it so far. Already made a big mistake regarding fuel and return flights, but lesson learnt...lol. Thanks guys. Have a great weekend. [30-Mar-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: note that you can rent a warehouse at the Benten Station CX. it's fairly cheap, only 100 CIS per week. if you have a warehouse there, you can buy and sell from that (so you don't need a shipped docked there) [30-Mar-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **I_am_Tex**: We have all made big mistakes at one point or another :). Still making them to this day on occasion [30-Mar-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: quite right. in fact, i'm sitting here right now just realising i forgot to buy an important ingredient before leaving the CX [30-Mar-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [30-Mar-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [30-Mar-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Does the storage facility increase both weight and volume by 5000? Or am I misreading that...? [30-Mar-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: 1 m3 = 1 ton and visa versa - so Yes? Renting a warehouse or building your own storage facility increases default 1500 to an additional 5000 [30-Mar-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea I'm going to need to get me some of that. [30-Mar-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Hydrogen just kills you on the volume, and Galerite is heavy [30-Mar-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: If not urgent might want to build a storage facility - if urgent then rent one - however - if you fail to pay rent - you lose access to storage until you pay your dues, your own storage build negates that methinks [30-Mar-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cappn** joined.* [30-Mar-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Colonarad** left.* [30-Mar-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***skildren** left.* [30-Mar-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joelmoll3k** left.* [30-Mar-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xTatry** joined.* [30-Mar-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mosher** left.* [30-Mar-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @CousinEddie it doesn't matter what you set the conditions of a contract to, if it doesn't get accepted or rejected in 48h it will be automatically cancelled. If they had clicked the reject button it would have the 'rejected' condition, not 'cancelled'. So it really just seems like they stopped playing entirely. [30-Mar-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: still sucks though. DM me about what you lost, I might be able to help [30-Mar-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***elsosa** left.* [30-Mar-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DropbearHugs** joined.* [30-Mar-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***44Garde** left.* [30-Mar-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera36c8bed68** left.* [30-Mar-24 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavePants**: Hello! Just started playing yesterday, going through the tutorials and still following the start up contracts. Let me know if you have any basic tips to share from your own learning experience for a new player. Like things that may not have been touched on in the tutorial, YouTube channels to check out, things to avoid producing early, things I should be going for early, anything that comes to mind. I went with the fuel engineer start, if that matters. Thanks! [30-Mar-24 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [30-Mar-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: things will move slowly to start. With patience and persistence you can grow a multiplanetary empire. empire [30-Mar-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavePants**: @JamesHart I'm okay with a slow start, its sounds right up my alley. Thank you for the warning. [30-Mar-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Advice for new players: get the PMMG Extended plugin if there is one for your browser. I have only installed it in Firefox. It adds some very useful additions to the information that is displayed. [30-Mar-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also, everyone is very friendly, so don't hesitate to ask questions [30-Mar-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavePants**: @BlueHeeler Good stuff, I will look into that. I am currently using the game through steam. Would you recommend the browser over the app? [30-Mar-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i personally like the browser version. i just keep it open in a tab 24/7, and poke at it a few times a day [30-Mar-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavePants**: @eminence32 shweet, no harm in checking it out myself i suppose [30-Mar-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm sorry but I've only ever played the game with Firefox so I can't make a comparisson. [30-Mar-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavePants**: All good, I imagine it'd going to be personal preference, but it's nice to ask incase one of them is just clearly better than the other [30-Mar-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you install PMMG the command to change the setup is XIT SET [30-Mar-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: https://sites.google.com/view/pmmgextended/features?authuser=0 {Embed} https://sites.google.com/view/pmmgextended/features?authuser=0 PMMG Extended - Features Chrome Store Link https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/38aMb2s-aLwMbqRe8XjaeQkq_uZWnaaX37qekFZompQ/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/92a3Yqy9NEJuY7u70TBBhP0J4ByYbtXTr9Idf0LlXyZ91Di-ULAbgiRGnYaOgLc-HMKlsVl8XzrkWk7Oiblv4KQ%3Dw16383 [30-Mar-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavePants**: ouu, those actually look like really useful additional screen, for sure going to check it out now [30-Mar-24 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The PMMG settings command is actually XIT SETTINGS but SET works. Put the settings command on you side bar. 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If you're new then the the timer is much shorter, like 3 days or something [31-Mar-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: if you just log in every other day or so then it won't get deleted [31-Mar-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: i see,i was inactive for 3 days and it got deleted when im inactive for 2 days, but does the company thereshold depends on registered date or activity rate of a player? [31-Mar-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: registered date, I think after a week or 2 the time will increase. if you have PRO it won't delete at all [31-Mar-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: I believe the time before deletion increases with the length of time you have played. [31-Mar-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: ^ [31-Mar-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: if you play one day for 10 minutes after creation it will get removed quickly. if you play for 10 minutes a day for a couple weeks it will take longer. iI believe there is an exact list on the wiki [31-Mar-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: hmm i see [31-Mar-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: thanks all for the guide [31-Mar-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: i will inactive for about 2 weeks so that why im asking, maybe every 2 or 3 days i will log sequently to keep my company active [31-Mar-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: give the game a little time to see if it is for you. if you like it enough the pro license is definitely worth it [31-Mar-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: such a pain to start over again, and i have no money to buy the PRO lic [31-Mar-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: thanks for the advice James :D [31-Mar-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html#im-going-to-be-away-from-the-game-for-some-time-how-are-inactive-accounts-handled {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [31-Mar-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: no problem. that is the guide I was thinkong of [31-Mar-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0365a75653** left.* [31-Mar-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XV0ID**: after reading the guide i think that the company deletion is based on registered date, 21 days before deletion is enough for me until i back online again [31-Mar-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: Happy Easter chat [31-Mar-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what changed with the local rules? i think i can see the latest rules, but not the previous [31-Mar-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Alright, after a few cycles of upkeep and taxes I've got enough data to confidently roll out the first tax cut. I've tracked excess taxes earned and plan to use that for infrastructure upgrades in the near future too. All pioneer rates are set to minimum as well as settlers for fuel refining. This is a starter planet and those margins can be thin so figured I'd do what I can. [31-Mar-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: (details of the changes are on the UFO discord, I can't post images here) [31-Mar-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Thanks for the cuts on fuel taxes. Will help me out as I'm a starter. :) [31-Mar-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Logi743**: what happened? [31-Mar-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: tax cuts [31-Mar-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Logi743**: alright [31-Mar-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smolCasino** joined.* [31-Mar-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smolCasino** left.* [31-Mar-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gurke2209** left.* [31-Mar-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Toy4x4funrun**: Thank you CptColeslaw! Big thanks from DACI! 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(neither FXPC or CXPC works) it says illegal command [01-Apr-24 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: for CXPC you need another modifier to specify which CXPC that you want to see ie "CXPC H2O.CI1" to see h2o price chart in BEN CX [01-Apr-24 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: it's samer thing with FXPC [01-Apr-24 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: but in Chat if you write the modifier it will show the price of said item [01-Apr-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdf94eb190f** left.* [01-Apr-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: change the range to 30 days top left - that worked for me [01-Apr-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1965735bab** left.* [01-Apr-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vindo** joined.* [01-Apr-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Victor_09** left.* [01-Apr-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XTZ** joined.* [01-Apr-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mhhkay** joined.* [01-Apr-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdd26e7baeb** left.* [01-Apr-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rostislavpopov2005** joined.* [01-Apr-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc7eced5e9e** left.* [01-Apr-24 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeanRexxTTV** deleted this message.* [01-Apr-24 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeanRexxTTV** deleted this message.* [01-Apr-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeanRexxTTV** deleted this message.* [01-Apr-24 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: How do you do that thing where it shows the price and the green arrow in chat [01-Apr-24 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just type the ful ticker name, like SF.CI1 [01-Apr-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: sf.cf1 [01-Apr-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: lies [01-Apr-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [01-Apr-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ok, maybe you told the truth. [01-Apr-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ...but I've got my eye on you... [01-Apr-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘€ [01-Apr-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***idysfunctional** joined.* [01-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: SF.CI1 [01-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: Oh my god [01-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: That's awesome [01-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: MGS.CI1 [01-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: MG.CI1 [01-Apr-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xllc4** joined.* [01-Apr-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Cethalose**: Is there a way to calculate ahead of time how much of a resource your extractor will produce? [01-Apr-24 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Cethalose**: as in prior to building an extractor? [01-Apr-24 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not sure how you do this in-game. but prunplanner can tell you this [01-Apr-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pippy1000** joined.* [01-Apr-24 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pippy1000**: this game is overwhelming [02-Apr-24 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiaoxuexuezha** joined.* [02-Apr-24 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drainbamaged99** left.* [02-Apr-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfc38b5c76b** left.* [02-Apr-24 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Racer2k5x** left.* [02-Apr-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: @pippy it gets easier. It’s like a tamagotchi but on a larger scale lol [02-Apr-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Cethalose**: is having excess workforce just an inevitable inefficiency? I can't seem to always plan a 1 to 1 outcome [02-Apr-24 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Yeah. Sometimes it’s better to have a shortage of workers rather than surplus. 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I'd like to urge everyone with a base on Katoa to donate just 1 of the b-fabs, lets get some extra storage everyone :3 [03-Apr-24 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: for more info: WAR UV-351a [03-Apr-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TerribleFate** joined.* [03-Apr-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thecommodorefan** joined.* [03-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SolidGhost2100** joined.* [03-Apr-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf19c53fef7** left.* [03-Apr-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bricky4558** joined.* [03-Apr-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf5b0f8297** left.* [03-Apr-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeanRexxTTV** deleted this message.* [03-Apr-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Timonimus** joined.* [03-Apr-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Benblob** joined.* [03-Apr-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***a.pic.programmer** left.* [03-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SolidGhost2099** joined.* [03-Apr-24 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spookycam4276** joined.* [03-Apr-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***banana9050** joined.* [03-Apr-24 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SolidGhost2099** left.* [03-Apr-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user69aaabc2bb** left.* [03-Apr-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GemmiArmy** left.* [03-Apr-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davidko** joined.* [03-Apr-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4b1e4ce32** left.* [03-Apr-24 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LiquidChris** left.* [04-Apr-24 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PistolaCargada** joined.* [04-Apr-24 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: Fuel prices at Benten are so freakin' low, being flooded at the moment... [04-Apr-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: buy buy buy [04-Apr-24 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: BEN dropping daily and the other three CXs moving up. hard not to buy [04-Apr-24 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: If lumber liquidators was smart he would buy to 13 and move his straddle to 11.75 [04-Apr-24 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 2.209mil [04-Apr-24 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: I'm not buying, I'm selling [04-Apr-24 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: Have to go everywhere else to sell now [04-Apr-24 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: ive got 60k, what you want to sell it for? [04-Apr-24 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'll give you 10.15 [04-Apr-24 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: It's ok, just sent a fully loaded ship to Antares [04-Apr-24 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: Thanks for the offer though [04-Apr-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: any time, hit me up if you dont want to haul [04-Apr-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: its all i do [04-Apr-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdyOldGamer**: Will do [04-Apr-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [04-Apr-24 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FYI - I list SF at 10.00 all day long. [04-Apr-24 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gabbo2653** joined.* [04-Apr-24 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnySinsFanboy** left.* [04-Apr-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korboh** left.* [04-Apr-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Worth saying, if you have the shipping capacity, can get a lot more for your SF elsewhere [04-Apr-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF.NC1 [04-Apr-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF.AI1 [04-Apr-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF.IC1 [04-Apr-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Call it an average of 33% more outside of BEN to sell SF [04-Apr-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***arend2** left.* [04-Apr-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb8ad78d495** left.* [04-Apr-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UldyssianX** left.* [04-Apr-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EthanIdris** joined.* [04-Apr-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: SF.CI1 rebounded quite a bit, back up at 10.8 [04-Apr-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: How does one ask for a contract extension? [04-Apr-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: I got the "contract will be breached in --h unless your partner grants an extension" but the partner is Castillo-Ito Director of Coordination. Is there any way to ask them for an extension? [04-Apr-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as far as i know, the automatic faction contracts don't allow for extension [04-Apr-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but if you contract was with another human player, after it expires, they would have a button that lets them extend the contract deadline by another 24 hours (or they can indicate that the contract is breached) [04-Apr-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: so in this case, i just need to wait it out? [04-Apr-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh wait, i misread you earlier [04-Apr-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: can you send a screenshot of the contract window? [04-Apr-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: can I? how do I share a screenshot? [04-Apr-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it would be very weird (and a bug) if Castillo-Ito was failing to fulfill its side of a contract [04-Apr-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: nonono I failed [04-Apr-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: i didn't fulfill on time [04-Apr-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, if you are about to miss a deadline, then i think there's nothing you can do [04-Apr-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you miss the deadline, then i think the entire contract will be breached [04-Apr-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (is it a shipping contract?) [04-Apr-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: that's alright, but what about the shipment? do I have to keep it as a reminder of my poor time managment skills? xD [04-Apr-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: yes it is [04-Apr-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i honestly don't know, it's a good question [04-Apr-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm sure someone else in chat knows the answer [04-Apr-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or you could ask in the global help channel, or in discord [04-Apr-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: it's weird that I still have the "This contract will be breached in 19h 9m unless your partner grants an extension." message if it cannot be extended xD [04-Apr-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: i'll check discord then [04-Apr-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoneOtterThan**: thank you [04-Apr-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i asked in discord and learned that the contract immediately breaches but the shipment pops open and you get all the stuff [04-Apr-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: #teachingpiracy [04-Apr-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ethe** left.* [04-Apr-24 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korivak** left.* [04-Apr-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vortex1x1x1x** joined.* [04-Apr-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Toy4x4funrun**: Hahaha, I love that hashtag Hazzaah [04-Apr-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Toy4x4funrun**: #PoorPoliticalChoices [04-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cartumor_** joined.* [04-Apr-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpudGunker** left.* [05-Apr-24 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarthBinks** joined.* [05-Apr-24 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***chase.palmerton26** left.* [05-Apr-24 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***chris.li8021** joined.* [05-Apr-24 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoD_Form_90** joined.* [05-Apr-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoD_Form_90**: Morning, afternoon, evening fellow traders o/ [05-Apr-24 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MOSS_125** left.* [05-Apr-24 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: good Night MoD o7 [05-Apr-24 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoD_Form_90**: gn hazzaah o7 [05-Apr-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: happy friday katoa gang [05-Apr-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: what so special with this friday? [05-Apr-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all friday's are special [05-Apr-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Man no one wants to sell me any BDE or BBH? [05-Apr-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you might be a little to far below CX prices to attract attention, but i have some excess BBH i can sell you [05-Apr-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Here's the thing about prices. There is no travel savings buying and selling locally, since you cannot buy everything you need from the LM - you have to go to the CX any way. So why would I sell any of my product for less than what I can sell it at the bid value at the CX and why would I pay any more than the ask? Think about it. [05-Apr-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: as for selling, selling at bid of CX on LM makes sense, you save the fuel the other person may aswell, so its a mutual savings at no lose to you. [05-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: but as for buying, when you buy a commodity from a LM for any perpose other than for using it at your bae you will have to transport it, so you can only justify a lower ppu. [05-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: so tighter bands. [05-Apr-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: When it comes to fuel, getting something locally might not save you fuel per say, but it will def save time and often will save fuel [05-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: But you missed the point. So what if I can buy one or two items locally when I have to go to the CX any way for the rest of the things that I need.When have you ever seen BOR or AUO or BER or BTS for sale in the LM. I still need to go the the CX, so unless someone prices less than the CX Ask price I will buy it at the CX. There is no time saving. My ships never stop. [05-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: to be honest, CousinEddie's pricers weren't so low that they were unreasonable. if it looks like someone just forgot a few base pieces and they're trying to save a trip to the CX (and a few bucks), i don't filling those orders, even if below CX [05-Apr-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I sell my extra product at bid price or less and I will not pay more than the ask price unless I am desparate - it happens from time to time. But you should not be selling to the desparate - you waste money paying for postings that time out. [05-Apr-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @Hazzaah you have not been playing long enough to understand the realities of the simulation. [05-Apr-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: I havent tried it, but can you transfer from Warehouse to your base directly o do you have to fly to LM? [05-Apr-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: LM is local to your base as well as the warehouse. If you base is on planet. You do not have to have a ship present. [05-Apr-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Ok, so you do not pay fuel for that. So it has less to do with my "understanding of the simulation" and a difference in opinion about efficiency [05-Apr-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you don't have a base on the planet where the LM and Warehouse are then you need to have a ship there. [05-Apr-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Sure you can get materials "cheaper" from CX, but that cargo takes space and cost fuel through opportunity regardless. [05-Apr-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Again you are missing the point. You can never get everything you need from the LM, so you are going to the CX regardless. [05-Apr-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: and you are missing mine, the space of something you bring back from the CX could be space you use for something you cant source from an LM [05-Apr-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well if you are trying to sell me your product and you are charging more than the CX I won't be buying from you. So waste you money on posyings that no one will buy. [05-Apr-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Im personally not, i have no buildings. but thats a dumb rule of thumb because assuming your base is on planet you save time and fuel. Is it predatory on the sellers part? sure, but thats wht convenience stores are for [05-Apr-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: If you run out of fuel and cant get to a CXM i'm happy to pay 15-20/ff because i dont have to spend time or resources to ship materials in to save the ship. theres tons of good uses outside of the consideration of CX prices for LMs. [05-Apr-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i do list basic consumables on the LM at above CX prices, and people do buy them (presumably when they've discovered they are low, and need a tiny amount to supply their base while they make a trip to the CX) [05-Apr-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: The horror :P [05-Apr-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: As I said, desparate sales. But on Katoa, there is almost always someone selling SF for tless than CX price, so not a good example. [05-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Yeah, what is LM pricing on SF? [05-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 9? [05-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: katoa specifically [05-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I produce my own fuel but I rush my trips, so I am buying fuel on Katoa often. I still don't buy if it is more than the Ask at the CX. [05-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I sell SF @ 10.00 all day everyday [05-Apr-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Since I make fuel, I do as much posting to the LM as possible. [05-Apr-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I usally buy SF for 10 on Katoa. [05-Apr-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I buy from CousinEddie from time to time. [05-Apr-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It was dumb luck that someone posted ship parts earlier this week. I capitalized. [05-Apr-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @cousineddie you have 16,666 units available? [05-Apr-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: sf [05-Apr-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: But, I also have a few folks I go to for specific sets of items [05-Apr-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: For me fuel is a means to an end, and I will be stopping making fuel on Katoa soon. I make my money with AFABS and electronics. [05-Apr-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @Hazzaah no sir I don't. I'm not to that volume yet. [05-Apr-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Hazzaah, you looking to buy? [05-Apr-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Does electronics count as manufacturing? [05-Apr-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Id buy at 10 as long as high enough volume. (8333 or 16,666) [05-Apr-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: In my opinion those ship parts were over priced. I would sell them to you for 1900. [05-Apr-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have 18k SF at katoa that is waiting for a ship to transport it to CX. i usually sell it at 10.8 [05-Apr-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, my electronics are running at 134%. [05-Apr-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @BlueHeeler well if you have surplus sometime, shoot me a message. Worst I can say is I don't need them [05-Apr-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: :O [05-Apr-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @eminence32 i cant do 10.80 SF.CI1 [05-Apr-24 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Id do 10.30 [05-Apr-24 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have a little bit extra right now, on Giedi Prime. But they are quick to make. [05-Apr-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have two ships to fix but I have 24 BHP right now. I fix my ships at 90%. [05-Apr-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I would be a bit short on FP though right now. I am making it though. [05-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sorry, FLP. [05-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It's cool, I have extras still. I fixed both my ships so I wont need any for a while [05-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, 16666 at 10.3, i'll send a contract [05-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: kk, ill move money around and acpet [05-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Let me know when you want BHP in the future then. [05-Apr-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: can you pay immediately, or do you need a few days? [05-Apr-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (no problem to wait 1 or 2 days, i just need to know how long to set the deadlines) [05-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If I have to move the BHP to Katoa then I would want the current bid price at the CX> [05-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Hazzaah contract sent. i'm going offline for about an hour, i'll be back soon [05-Apr-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @eminem32 paid, Thanks for choosing SHIP for your shipping needs. [05-Apr-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @cousineddie what volume are you producing? [05-Apr-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Correction. My electronic plants are only running at 96%. They are not manufacturing. I selected the wrong plant - Appliiance Factory. [05-Apr-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Ahhh nuts. [05-Apr-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @Hazzaah roughly 3k/day [05-Apr-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: but I do sell off some of my AMM to another player since they fronted me components to build 2 extra Collectors [05-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: I'll take it all daily, increase as it goes, i just spent all my liquidity so i'll need a day to get the first order, you can COMD them to me [05-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 10.20 instead of 10 [05-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: You lookin for anything else lol [05-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: what do you have? [05-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: got 1k/day PE [05-Apr-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: let me look [05-Apr-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: what price are you looking to get? [05-Apr-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Im happy with 9 [05-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @shilerhobbs 10 pal. [05-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: you cant grow at 9 [05-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I have had pretty steady growth so far [05-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: most of my supplies dont come from cx [05-Apr-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: id be at 7.65/PE on Katoa. sorry. Im just a broker [05-Apr-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh crap how did I get short on Pioneers? [05-Apr-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oof I forgot to build the hab [05-Apr-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: lol [05-Apr-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If you could get a deal on C i could possibly do the PE for 7.65 [05-Apr-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Or do you offer transporting :) [05-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: id straight ship it but i prefer to buy buy and sell. i accept the liadility of the load for a higher margin on my side. [05-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i dont come to katoa much, id be 6 days out before i could take a shipment from here [05-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'd need 2x 500t contracts [05-Apr-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Ah cool, was hoping for help with import of H from another planet to Katoa, can expand production some more with better transport [05-Apr-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: H is bulky, you are better to manufacture on site of H production the transport SF/FF off [05-Apr-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 1m^3 [05-Apr-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea H is a killer on storage space. [05-Apr-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: could be worse (like STL) [05-Apr-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: True but i have been chasing those advert campaigns [05-Apr-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gepard_Landau**: Ahh... The woes of moving H... [05-Apr-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh yea, STL looks rough [05-Apr-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arial4274**: Is there a way to build ships without PRO? [05-Apr-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: So uh... i just found this chat. what is this chat? is it everyone thats on same planet as me ? [05-Apr-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arial4274**: I think so [05-Apr-24 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see [05-Apr-24 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thats cool ;3 [05-Apr-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: This com session is for those players that have a base on Katoa. When you have a base on a planet you are automatically included in the local comm session. [05-Apr-24 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am surprised that it took you 48 days to find this. :-) [05-Apr-24 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: well..... xD [05-Apr-24 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You must be on a phone or tablet because things are a lot less obvious. [05-Apr-24 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i didnt even know dm's was untill a moment ago either Nah im on pc but im mostly just doing my queues, and missions etc a few button clicks and log out as theres not a whole lot for me to do atm [05-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do you laft the left side bar enabled? [05-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: havent really touched much of the sidebar stuff yet, juust been trying to build up a bit of cash and almost ruining myself 3x times in the process D [05-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: xD [05-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: leff [05-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i do [05-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Are you using the browser extension PMMG Extended? [05-Apr-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: no, i have stored the links on my browser however but im on the steam versiion atm [05-Apr-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well I stronlgly recommend that you use PMMG it will let you configure the left side bar among a great many other enhancements. [05-Apr-24 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: that is cool indeed, i shall look into it ! :D thanks for the tips ! :D [05-Apr-24 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: https://sites.google.com/view/pmmgextended/features?authuser=0 {Embed} https://sites.google.com/view/pmmgextended/features?authuser=0 PMMG Extended - Features Chrome Store Link https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/DnAQwuslmfjpEYrEr1ivhJw5vtKihtCYPnF5TxnQO6g/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/Xacjb8CvEYLT5S9fdccxLdpNPmxcBc0A9qkt8KJAeY_y_qj_tXuawCFYivR2EAALDBtOnFxkFHCQwTi4dRfkvj0%3Dw16383 [05-Apr-24 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ty! bookmarked it, [05-Apr-24 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: though are these 3rd party tools ? or they released by the devs of the game ? [05-Apr-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: would be coool if the devs added it to the game itself [05-Apr-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I produce a lot of my own stuff, consumables, etc, and often have some extras. I can almost always provide small requests at CX bid price or less. [05-Apr-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ill keep that in mind, Would i be placing orders at the local market then ? [05-Apr-24 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm not sure, since I have always been PRO. Can you buy from LM? [05-Apr-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: I can access LM now yes for 30 days as someone was generous enough to randomly gift me a pro licence [05-Apr-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you are FREE then I am not sure if you can accept contracts. Anyone? [05-Apr-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thats how i learned about this chatroom [05-Apr-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well then as PRO you can do contracts. [05-Apr-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: So now i can basically sell and buy on local market, and i dnt have to fly anywhere right i can just put them up directly from base storage/ [05-Apr-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ? [05-Apr-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have bases on 12 planets. Check them out to see if they have anything you need and maybe we can do contracts. [05-Apr-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: how do i go about finding your bases/ [05-Apr-24 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Click my user handle in the chant and then click again in the dialog that appears. [05-Apr-24 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Coldfire is my company [05-Apr-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: aha i found ur bases there [05-Apr-24 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Not all have local markets. JS-299b the LM is managed by me but I don't often look at it. Better to do contracts. [05-Apr-24 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i think i need to read up on contracts then, i thought contracts was the orders put up on LM [05-Apr-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Type CONTD in thre NEW BFR and experiment - you don't have to send it but try creating one. [05-Apr-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you ask me for something I can send you the contract until you are comfortable creating your own. [05-Apr-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ahh oki. matter of fact i do actually need some stuff, Basic rations. 50 of em you got any for sale by any chance? [05-Apr-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sure I can sell you 50 RAT for 90 each. Shall I send you a contract? [05-Apr-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Awesome, actually let me try to set up to see [05-Apr-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay, go for it. [05-Apr-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: deadline is this in days ? [05-Apr-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can deliver right away. You can take as long as you like to pay. [05-Apr-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, days. [05-Apr-24 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: right okay, how do i chose when to pay ? i want to pay instantly but it could be useful to know how to set up a limit, is this what the deadline is for ? [05-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: OHHHH i see it, theres in the index 1 and 2 [05-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: parameter for 1 controls the payment [05-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You are getting there. [05-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: th8ink i gotta restart game because its not picked up my licence [05-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: 2 sec [05-Apr-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: think i sent one to you there now [05-Apr-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: What are you manufacturing Intergalactic? [05-Apr-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: fuel [05-Apr-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: what volume? you selling local? [05-Apr-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: There you go. [05-Apr-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I buy fuel on Katoa by the way. [05-Apr-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thanks ! uhhhh now ur asking xD [05-Apr-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: hmm i got 2x refineries, built my 2nd today, but they currently run 9% efficiency [05-Apr-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: how much inventory of SF or FF you have that you want to sell? [05-Apr-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Im working on building more pioneers and settlers [05-Apr-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You need workers and consumables to get production going. [05-Apr-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: atm i got 470 FTL and 1500 STL fuel. I think i need most of my FTL atm, [05-Apr-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: but i can sell half my supply of STL [05-Apr-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: see i can get coffe etc which is not required but will it boost production and how much ? [05-Apr-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Click on VIEW BASE, then WORKFORCE to see what you need for your workers. [05-Apr-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: PWOs are wroth it, the others arnt until later [05-Apr-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: I see yeah i use 0.4 per day [05-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When you click VIEW BASE, do you have the required number of pioneers? [05-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ohh i just found out the payment isnt automatic [05-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: there u shouldve gotten ur money now [05-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: i see it. [05-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: etc on pioners: required 280. Current workforce: 200(0) [05-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: what does the 0 mean ? [05-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: 0 unemployed? [05-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: settlers: required 40: current workforce 1(0) [05-Apr-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do you have a HB2 for the settlers? [05-Apr-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ive set up some orders on exchange for bse, bta, bde, bbh that im awaiting someone to fulfill [05-Apr-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: hb2 i need to check what this is [05-Apr-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ah that is one of the things i am trying to buy stuff for atm on the benten station [05-Apr-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Settlers require HB2, Pioneers HB1 [05-Apr-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: once my orders on benten station are fulfilled i will be able to build them hb2 and hb1 [05-Apr-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I could normally help you out with the BFABS but I am currently fixing bases so I am short on supply. [05-Apr-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: hehe thats allright :D [05-Apr-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Your fuel will start when you have the HB2 and Settlers. [05-Apr-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oh really so i should see the time it takes reduce [05-Apr-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ? [05-Apr-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, with enough well fed workers you should get close to 100%. Better after you have some experts to apply. [05-Apr-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ah thats cool cuz now it takes 8h per 100 unit [05-Apr-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: xD [05-Apr-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do you have 2 BTA? [05-Apr-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ive got: CM, HB1, HB1 [05-Apr-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Oh wait material, yes i got 2 bta but i need 1 more [05-Apr-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: my orders to build pioneer and settlers are: bse x2, bta x1, bde x3, bbh x6 [05-Apr-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have 2 BBH, 2BDE, 2 BSE 2 TRU and 48 MCG but missing 2 BTA to make a HB2. [05-Apr-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: awh, yeh im pretty much skint myself atm xD [05-Apr-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will sell you thse parts very cheap to get your fuel going. [05-Apr-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: but hopefully ill get my orders fulfilled tomorrow and i will be able to build the remaining thigns to get my production going properly [05-Apr-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 1 credit. [05-Apr-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I make them, I don't buy them. [05-Apr-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ooooooh rly o.o [05-Apr-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i mean im more than happy to pay more than 1 credit for your efforts [05-Apr-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It will have to be 1 credit per contract, 5 contracts. [05-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: not what i ment but oki xD [05-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You will pay me back later with reasonably priced fuel, okay? [05-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oki sounds good [05-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Making contracts now.... [05-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: awesome, thanks man <3 [05-Apr-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sorry, 1 credit per item. [05-Apr-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thats fine [05-Apr-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ding ding ding :D [05-Apr-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: let me know if this improves your refinery? [05-Apr-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @blueheeler is there a public resource for HQ costs as they increase in level? [05-Apr-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Not that I am aware of, sorry. [05-Apr-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: it did, i built seettles habitation and it did reduce the time [05-Apr-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: im at 51% [05-Apr-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My last upgrade was more than 12,000,000 CIS if I bought the parts. [05-Apr-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Level 22 [05-Apr-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: where do u see ur level ? [05-Apr-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: VIEW BASE -> HQ [05-Apr-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Third from the top [05-Apr-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ahhh i see, does that also increase production ? [05-Apr-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, 10%. Would be more but I apply all the base permits to my other bases. [05-Apr-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ahh [05-Apr-24 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so i deleted it [05-Apr-24 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Katoa, Proxima, Umbra, Eterhwind and Nemesis are all maxed out. [05-Apr-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: daym D: [05-Apr-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: u mentioned you control a market on a planet. What did you mean by that, do you "own" the planet in its entirety or ? [05-Apr-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am bout to d a major refactoring of Katoa. I want to do Software Development. [05-Apr-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am practially the only one on the planet JS-299b, so I made the LM and Warehouse. Noby uses them but me. [05-Apr-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Nobody [05-Apr-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oh wait so if you find a planet thats occupied, it doesnt have a LM automatically you have to physically builld it ? [05-Apr-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i ment un occupied * [05-Apr-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, someone has to. I mine TS there and I thought it would be easier for people to buy TS from me but no one does. [05-Apr-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: I see, maybe ill become your tenant one day [05-Apr-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I shut down one of my extractors because there was no demand. [05-Apr-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Im in need of some building resources @blueheeler would you fill them local on katoa? [05-Apr-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: being the one building the LM does that provide any benefits ? etc is there a tax you get a cut out of or somethjing ? [05-Apr-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No benefit. There is no governement and no taxes there. I am already a governor on Giedi Prime so I cannot be a governor there. [05-Apr-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: is there a benefit to being a governor then ? [05-Apr-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Hazzaah, I build BFABS, LFABS, RFABS and AFABS, but I am in the middle of a refactoring on Katoa and fixing several other bases so I do not currently have any extra FABS., Sorry.f [05-Apr-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: np m8, i still havent built any buildings, when you get done refactoring and have excess let me know [05-Apr-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Governor, not really. Is a lot of work on a planet like Katoa. Not so much on Giedi Prime. All I do there is keep the taxes to a minimum and look after Infirmary and Safety Station consumables. [05-Apr-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will keep you in mind, Hazzaah. [05-Apr-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: I see thats cool too though :D [05-Apr-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: but is it possible to trade governorship, like if you no longer wish to be a governor on a planet i could buy that title (just a theoretical question) [05-Apr-24 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Benten - Katoa (UV-351a) Buying SF @ 10.20 local, COMD [05-Apr-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Governor is elected. You don't want to do it anymore yu don't run. If someone runs against you and you are out voted you are gone. That on;t happen on Giedi Prime. I am very popular. [05-Apr-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Ohhh i see so there is a little politics in this game too eh [05-Apr-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: haha [05-Apr-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I would not want to govern Katoa. [05-Apr-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: is there a lot of people here ? [05-Apr-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: So what is left to do to get you making fuel? [05-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: So basically i need a pioneer habitation i think, 4x bbh, 1x bde, 1x bta [05-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Katoa is a starter planet, so is always full. Not when I first started but now many people want to get a base here and cannot. [05-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so i was really lucky then i suppose [05-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Ghost plot planet i believe, but its still a very good bse. best for fuel iirc [05-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Can't help with FABS, all out of BFABS until some more are built. [05-Apr-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thats allright :D my ship arrives to benten tomorrow, if my orders there are not filled by then i will just outright buy them for the price they run for my orders are pushing prices a tiny bit) [05-Apr-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: New players get on because it is a starter planet. Past players that started elseware are often unable to get a base here. [05-Apr-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Ohh i see [05-Apr-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: So really i wanna hold onto my spot then :D [05-Apr-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Only making BBH because there are used to make AFABS that I need to build my Software Factories. [05-Apr-24 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well, yes I would say stay on Katoa, it is a great planet and find some others as you develop. [05-Apr-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I plan on doing software too and damn is it expensive [05-Apr-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: gotchu, thanks for all help so far today, it has made a tremendous change in my gameplay :D [05-Apr-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Deckss, yes. It has taken me quite a while to build up to this. I need to make WAI - mush to expensive to buy. [05-Apr-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I heard its like a money printer though when you set it up [05-Apr-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Some of it has not imputs - just consumables for the workers. [05-Apr-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: We will see. I should be setting up tomorrow or the next day. Depends on how fast I can make FABS. [05-Apr-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: idk if youve already answered this i mightve missed it, if i did im sorry but i see on my settlers ikt now says :L required:40, current workforce: 40(39) Does that mean i h have 39n left over unused workforce? [05-Apr-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am not certain what the number in the bracket is for. I always thought it was how many more were available, but I do not know for sure. [05-Apr-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see, [05-Apr-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Available on the planet that is. If you look at the population report it may help. [05-Apr-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i think it might be because pioneers: required 280, current workforce: 200(0) and for settlers it says 40(39) so it seems that the paratheses is my left over unused workforce i think [05-Apr-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: All of mine have zeros, so I don't know what that means. [05-Apr-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: whats your required vs current workforce? [05-Apr-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: P: 520/600 S: 455/500 T: 360/400 E: 110/100 [05-Apr-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I need 110 Engineers but I only have room for 100 so I only get 100. [05-Apr-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Current all are (0). [05-Apr-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: soso from what you wrrote, If i take P as an example. You have 520 workforce but needs 600 therefore all of your 500 is "hired" and there is 0 unemployment is how i understand it [05-Apr-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: if we take mine, S: 40 required, current workforce 40(39) [05-Apr-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i had 1 already, i build a settler thingie whjich gives me 100 [05-Apr-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No, I only need 520 Pioneers but have housing for 600. [05-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oh shit then it doesnt add up [05-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: and 100-40=60 so that doesnt add up either [05-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will be eliminating a lot of Pioneers when I refactor. [05-Apr-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Because I need technicians, engineers and scientists for my new processes. [05-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Refinery needs 20 settlers. Did you make 2 refineries? [05-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: wait so you dont have to have some of each, etc if i deleted all my pioneers and settlers and went for engineers etc would they cover the "previous" categories ? [05-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: I have 2 refineries indeed [05-Apr-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: So then you need 120 pioneers - 2 HB1 [05-Apr-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The process that you build determins which workers you need. The workers determin the HAB you need to house them. [05-Apr-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Engineers do not work with Refineries. [05-Apr-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oh okay so i cannot just get "higher tier" workers to fill those ranks, i do need workers for each category do i understand that correctly ? [05-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will be gone for a while. Time to walk my dog. [05-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: no worries man have a good walk ! [05-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: is it. . . a blue heeler? [05-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes. [05-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 10/10 [05-Apr-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Blue Heeler is also my SASS handle as well. [05-Apr-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: WTB SF Katoa LM. @10.20 send COMD [05-Apr-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stupid** joined.* [05-Apr-24 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XSive_Drez** joined.* [05-Apr-24 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Still need SF? [05-Apr-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Got more @shillerhobbs? [05-Apr-24 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I could do another 5k if you need [05-Apr-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AVMortwake.ttv** joined.* [05-Apr-24 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Shoot you want 500 H ;p [06-Apr-24 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: no, hae no use for H. thanks though [06-Apr-24 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb5230f19ee** left.* [06-Apr-24 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seletskiy** left.* [06-Apr-24 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user22ce3edd79** left.* [06-Apr-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfd9ede0b6d** left.* [06-Apr-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stos** left.* [06-Apr-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user66ee8899b0** left.* [06-Apr-24 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: @shilerHobbs ive picked up your sell order for 200 H :D [06-Apr-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @intergalactic got SF? [06-Apr-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Depending on how much you need I do have some i can seell but im still a bit low, But i started expanding yesterday and was able to increasse production rate from 9% to 57 and working on getting that up to 90 now so should be able to supply way more soon [06-Apr-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i got 800 i am willing to depart with [06-Apr-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: you are working with Blueheeler iirc right? if so sell to him, he did you a solid [06-Apr-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: yeah [06-Apr-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Oh for sure [06-Apr-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Hes the reason im able to expand and get up on my feet haha ill never forget that ! 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[06-Apr-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not enough for you to ship [06-Apr-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i need it for my ships, ~1200 if you have it [06-Apr-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: flying out to ZK [06-Apr-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have 1900 units, if you want to buy at 10.8 [06-Apr-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'll take it, COMD [06-Apr-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: CONTD. . . im way too tired [06-Apr-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: this will be last trade of the day for me, catch you all tomorrow [06-Apr-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just to clarify: you're sending the contract, right? [06-Apr-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i will now, np [06-Apr-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: does anyone have helium isotope 3 to sell ? 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[08-Apr-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you those items. [08-Apr-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Aweesome :D [08-Apr-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Will you make the contracts or shall I. [08-Apr-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Would you mind ? THinking it might be easier for you to draw up since you know your prices :D [08-Apr-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: As I have said previously, I sell at CX bid price or less. But, I don't mind making the contracts. [08-Apr-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thanks a lot i appreciate that ! Ill write this down somewhere :D [08-Apr-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thanks ! youre a star !: D [08-Apr-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can always turn down a contract if I don't like the price. [08-Apr-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: yeah thats true didnt think bout that ngl [08-Apr-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I produce all of my consumables, so I can almost always sell small qyantities like this. [08-Apr-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Thats really cool! Ive written this in a document so i should have this for later so in the future i can send you contracts too :D [08-Apr-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay [08-Apr-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have quite a few BFABS now that I can sell you at discount to make sure that you are producing your fuel. [08-Apr-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do you have your HABs built now? Are you up to 100%? [08-Apr-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: what are "bfabs" sorry i still getting used to the abriviations for some things. My efficiency is 84% atm [08-Apr-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: BBH, BDE, BSE and BTA [08-Apr-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XSive_Drez** left.* [08-Apr-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i got core module, 3x HB1, 1x HB2 2x collectors for ammonia, 1x extractor for GAL, 3x refineries 1 for each fuel and 1 for helium3 [08-Apr-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ah oki so bfabs are basically the construction prefabs begining with a "b" _ [08-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sounds good. You know you can mix what your REF is producing? [08-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: like 1x refinery alternating recurring stuff _ [08-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, I make BFABS, LFABS, RFABS and AFABS. I make my money from AFABS. [08-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: yes, you stack what you want in the queue. add and remove as necessary. [08-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Yeah, I did have to do that when i only had one refinery, though i thought it might be a good idea to have one for eeach for higher output because production time is so slow otherwise [08-Apr-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When I run a REF I mostly make SF. When FF is geting low I add HE3 and FF to the queue. [08-Apr-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I only make HE3 as I need itv- when I am making FF. [08-Apr-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see, its just ive been balancing on very low output so when ive refueled my ships i got so little to sell )been doing some transportation etc to get more money= [08-Apr-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You will over produce on HE3 if you dedicate a REF to it. BUt you can always sell it. [08-Apr-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ah in that sence, i was thinking to let it finish up and then have it join the other refineries in fuel procution but i guess i can set the helium to alternate between all 3 [08-Apr-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I mine lots of TS, so just ket me know when you want more. [08-Apr-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: awesome will do ! ØD [08-Apr-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I think in the beginning I was running 3 or 4 REF. After all of my major planets had a REF I was able to back off to 1 and use the space for other processes. [08-Apr-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: :D * The idea of operating the way i was is to get a surplus so that im never on the "edge" if you get me so i never will go like "ohshit im runing low on this that and blablabla" all of a sudden [08-Apr-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: After mt refactor on Katoa I no longer have a REF and have to but fuel for Katoa. [08-Apr-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oh i see [08-Apr-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My base is full and I needed the space for my new Software line (3 processes). [08-Apr-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: daym o.o [08-Apr-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: hmm. I am producing SF on ref 1, FF on ref 2 , And i want ref3 to alternate between the various things, but how can i ensure that only ref 3 is alternating the produciton ? [08-Apr-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Currently I have no scientists so I am not making anything yet. [08-Apr-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i imagine thats gonna be expencive to set up oof [08-Apr-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You can't schedule the REFs separately. The best you can you is adjust the time that they take to finish at the same time to hold their places. I never tried that with REF but do it with my FRMs and HYFs. [08-Apr-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see, thats unfortunate so i might be bettwe of do recurring patterns in the queue instead then so: SF, ff, He3, sf, sf as an example then ? [08-Apr-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: then that will rotate [08-Apr-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: What I did was keep SF always running and add FF and HE3 when FF is getting low. You will use or sell much more SF. [08-Apr-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ahai see [08-Apr-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well you make them repeating. [08-Apr-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Yeah i see what you mean. Switched up my production line there to produce mostly sf and ill just sprinkle in one of each every once in a while [08-Apr-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I try to keep 1000 FF around and only make HE3 will I am making FF. [08-Apr-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: whie [08-Apr-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: while [08-Apr-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see yeah im even below that haha ill try to do something similar myself then [08-Apr-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so i have 300 pioneers atm, but require 340. How bad on a scale from 1 to 10 would you say it is to be 40 short ? [08-Apr-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It will hold you % down until you have another HAB1. There are lots of pioneers avaiable. [08-Apr-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: hmm lemme see what ima need for one more [08-Apr-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am busy for a bit, but I can give you some fabs for a HB1 cheap like I did before. Just give me a 10 minutes or so to finish send my ships. [08-Apr-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i need 4x BBH, 2x BDE, 1x BTA [08-Apr-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oki aweesome thanks ! :D [08-Apr-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You have the MCG? [08-Apr-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: yup [08-Apr-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: got 100 [08-Apr-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay. I will get them shortly. [08-Apr-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: 92% now. thanks ! :D [08-Apr-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That's better. Okay, make lots of fuel and sell your extra SF to me for 10.00 CIS (if you want to) [08-Apr-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Do you think kambutcha and repair kit is worth it ? [08-Apr-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ofcourse man ! youve helped me so much already so selling you fuel is the least i can do :D [08-Apr-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes. I can give you some cheap. [08-Apr-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: if you wants thats up to you im not gonna decline haha. But on general you would advertise buying kambutcha regularly then [08-Apr-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, it helps. I make so I don't have to buy it. [08-Apr-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Where can i see what my limit on this base is again ? I wanna crunch some numbers to see if i can afford setting up water production [08-Apr-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: 96% ! [08-Apr-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Water production on Katoa is inefficient. Better to buy. But I did it for a while. [08-Apr-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When you get some experts it will get better. [08-Apr-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see, is it so i HAVE to have pioneers and settlers. What if i only had experts, could they fill same roles ? im just asking theoretically and have no plans doing so. just trying to udnerstand the relationship between workforce and production [08-Apr-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Experts are different. VIEW BASE look for EXPERTS button. [08-Apr-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thats a whole lot of greec that [08-Apr-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i see i got RMV button for fuel and ACT for resource [08-Apr-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: After you run the REF for a while you will get experts. Add them in with the EXPERTS button. [08-Apr-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: and i have a progress bar is this like leveling up workers [08-Apr-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: RMV remove, ACT activate [08-Apr-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When the progress bar gets to the end you get another expert. Max is 6 experts in total. Apply them where you think they do the most for your percentages. [08-Apr-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ive got 3 available for resource extraction [08-Apr-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: and i have ACT button [08-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: what does RMV and ACT do ? Why do i only have ACT on resource extraction and not RMV button examplewise? [08-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Activate what you can... [08-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: OH RMV is remove [08-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ACT activate [08-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: im so stupid lol [08-Apr-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The game has a huge learning curve. Not stupid. [08-Apr-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thanks haha, but it doesnt look like experts are increasing what i need in terms of satisfaction items [08-Apr-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so its "free" efficiency ? [08-Apr-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It takes time to aquire experts. You will get a notification when one arrives. [08-Apr-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't understand "free" efficiency [08-Apr-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: well activating a a expert just made it take less time for me to produce an item. so thats what i called efficiency, And i cannot see my cost increased in terms of food, luxury etc [08-Apr-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so therefore its "free" it doesnt cost me extra to have experts? [08-Apr-24 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: yes. when you get experts it will increase the efficiency - where you apply them. You will only ever be able to apply 6 even if you are given dozens. [08-Apr-24 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so theres no "catch" when it comes to using them, hidden costs etc [08-Apr-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: it is straight up a reward [08-Apr-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: a limited one but a reward nontheless [08-Apr-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: none. It helps balance out that Katoa get efficiency based on manufacturing. [08-Apr-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: aha i see [08-Apr-24 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Katoa, by vote, gets a large efficiency bonus on Manufacturing. [08-Apr-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My SCA (Small Components Assembly) is running at 137%. [08-Apr-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: wait you can go above 100% ? o.o [08-Apr-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thats pretty neat [08-Apr-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: how does that happen ? [08-Apr-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My prefab plants (Construction) run at 128% due to 5 experts. [08-Apr-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ooh [08-Apr-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My lat expert is applied to Electronics for 103%. [08-Apr-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: last (sixth) [08-Apr-24 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Each time you upgrade you base you increase your efficiency unless you use the base permits to create or update new bases. [08-Apr-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fki** joined.* [08-Apr-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: so it takes permits to upgrade? [08-Apr-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: base permits. You get more when you upgrade your HQ. [08-Apr-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: aha oki [08-Apr-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I said upgrade your base first time, I meant your HQ. My HQ is level 22 so I have 23 base permits. [08-Apr-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Time to see if I can see the solar eclipse. Talk later. [08-Apr-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: aha oki no worries hve a good one enjoy the eclipse [08-Apr-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jfwlkeflwl41** joined.* [08-Apr-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The clouds ruined it. Some some intermittent views. [08-Apr-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: completely overcast here ruined the entire "96%" totality [08-Apr-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I took my family of 4 to Niagra Falls to be in totality. 100% cloud cover. 2 weeks before the trip it said crystal clear weather. [08-Apr-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Was cool nevertheless but would have liked to see it in addition to being in the shadow of the moon. 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[08-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Anyone have 4 BBH on Kotoa the ycan sell me? the HQ calculator i used must have been off, im a litle short [08-Apr-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: *katoa [08-Apr-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Compound_Interest** left.* [08-Apr-24 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, i have some BBH [08-Apr-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i just put up an LM ad, if you still need them [08-Apr-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: cheers [08-Apr-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StormyDayParade** joined.* [08-Apr-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XSive_Drez** joined.* [09-Apr-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alexandrovich_** joined.* [09-Apr-24 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8f92d07789** left.* [09-Apr-24 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bwer123** joined.* [09-Apr-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3ca61d9bf1** left.* [09-Apr-24 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SSF** joined.* [09-Apr-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Samayoa** joined.* [09-Apr-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stevet2910** joined.* [09-Apr-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DocMage95** joined.* [09-Apr-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: Why is there a ship in the sun [09-Apr-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: He gonna melt ); [09-Apr-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weather_Man**: The ship is gone, I digress [09-Apr-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EndiaXanaphia** joined.* [09-Apr-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XTZ** left.* [09-Apr-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mhhkay** left.* [09-Apr-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: he dead. [09-Apr-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: R.I.P. [09-Apr-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Disturbedmayhem** joined.* [09-Apr-24 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ponzey10** joined.* [10-Apr-24 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Facesss** joined.* [10-Apr-24 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lionskrike** joined.* [10-Apr-24 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BBCJagerton** joined.* [10-Apr-24 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Disturbedmayhem**: thanks [10-Apr-24 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** left.* [10-Apr-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carisander** joined.* [10-Apr-24 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **simdimdim**: another round of donations for the Katoa Warehouse ( WAR UV-351a ), everyone? [10-Apr-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user01cf4ed45b** left.* [10-Apr-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adam11** left.* [10-Apr-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laukev92** joined.* [10-Apr-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XSive_Drez**: Hauler sitting at Ben Station 500t free space. Here for your shipping needs. [10-Apr-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Janne** left.* [10-Apr-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hollow_weaverling** joined.* [10-Apr-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rishi_sunak** joined.* [10-Apr-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhoenixDBlack** joined.* [10-Apr-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** left.* [10-Apr-24 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazzaah** deleted this message.* [10-Apr-24 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF.CI1 @9.9 katoa [10-Apr-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: How much you need? [10-Apr-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Yes [10-Apr-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: how much you got? [10-Apr-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: you have more? [10-Apr-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 25k [10-Apr-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: send cont [10-Apr-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: 4k sitting on more FF nowadays [10-Apr-24 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Can any one tell me what the sigificance is of the colored tokens that you get if you click the bottom left corner of an item's square? Or direct me to where I can find out more about them. I accidently clicked the bottom left corner and it caused a small token to appear. Clicking it again causes it to change colors. Clicking it a few more times and it goes away. [10-Apr-24 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't think i've ever seen this before [10-Apr-24 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have a chat going in the global help, look there so I don't have to repeate it here. 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I posted 12.5 in LM, but I think I posted 13 last time. [11-Apr-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It's for the Katoa warehouse so it's not mission critical or anything [11-Apr-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Benten CX bid price is 12000 for 50 TRU, so you are pricing in the spread - fair price. [11-Apr-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the LM hasn't seen this much stuff in a while, this is fun [11-Apr-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spookycam4276** left.* [11-Apr-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user85daa3698d** left.* [11-Apr-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm bringing it back [11-Apr-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: LM is going to turn into my personal gas station/corner store lol [11-Apr-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SwedeFarmer** joined.* [11-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rockhead.df** joined.* [11-Apr-24 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarkValyntyn6** joined.* [11-Apr-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***infamous_infern0** joined.* [11-Apr-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elderleastsum** joined.* [12-Apr-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ds841** joined.* [12-Apr-24 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bricky4558** left.* [12-Apr-24 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dwiran** left.* [12-Apr-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eimantas_Ge** joined.* [12-Apr-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Timonimus** left.* [12-Apr-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Is anyone able to sell me some RAT on the market? There's offers up for 50k but I don't have that kind of money or need. only looking for about 50. [12-Apr-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you 50 RAT for 100. Send me a contract. [12-Apr-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Sent, thanks a bunch. [12-Apr-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome. [12-Apr-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoans feeding katoans, that's what we like to see [12-Apr-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: a united katoa is a strong katoa [12-Apr-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: WTB SF @ 9.8 Will pay 10.10 on volumes over 16,666 [12-Apr-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Benblob** left.* [12-Apr-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Dear haulers and fuel suppliers, especially fairly new ones: Could we get more SP to ANT and MOR, please. Direct sales (buy market in BEN and sell market in ANT and MOR) are worth 50/t & 36.6/t respectively. More than profitable even if your ship comes home empty (scandelous!). I make profit on this, but I can't satisfy demand and I'd like fuel prices to equalize a bit. Thanks. [12-Apr-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Better yet, Save your ships crew the hassels of being away from their families and sell it to me [12-Apr-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: think about the children of katoa [12-Apr-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: I'll increase my price to 10.30 for the next 8hrs, and i pledge to donate .20 of every unit to develop education systems in a system to brighten theKotoan childrens future [12-Apr-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I tip my cap to your propaganda. But I rely on pure bulk greed for mine. [12-Apr-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Your poor crewmen. . . Over worked, and unpaid. . .their children are no better off than little timmy from Christmas carol. dead soon from malnourishment [12-Apr-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: By selling your SF to SHIP you are saving little Timmy's all around the galaxy [12-Apr-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Timmy's working in the ice mines on Frost. Never dropped below 100% rations there, so malnourishment is hardly the issue. [12-Apr-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazzaah** deleted this message.* [12-Apr-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Beans [12-Apr-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: feed them more beans [12-Apr-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: check your DMs Zen [12-Apr-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Fine I'll send more beans to Frost back from Verdant. [12-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Maybe Timmy can have some FIM for Christmas this year. [12-Apr-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: to any katoa-based haulers, what's your price for hauling 1000Ts from pyrgos to katoa? [12-Apr-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user89b82382a9** left.* [12-Apr-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FKalio** joined.* [12-Apr-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Anyone has some hydrogen for sale by any chance? And would you be willing to trade in for fuel ? [12-Apr-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: I am proposing 770 SF vs 100 H [12-Apr-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how much do you need? (reminder anyone to asking for stuff -- say how much you need!) [12-Apr-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i trade you 770 SF for 100 H ? [12-Apr-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorry, your message came in while i was typing mine [12-Apr-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: hehe np ;3 [12-Apr-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, i can trade you some SF for H. set-up the contracts and i'll deliver [12-Apr-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: awesome ! will do :D [12-Apr-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (you might find that there are actually no ways to do pure trades, so if you just want to trade cash, that's fine with me) [12-Apr-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: ill send through and youll see how i intend to do it :3 [12-Apr-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: i trust you [12-Apr-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: dont run away xD [12-Apr-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: there, selling and buying whole quote for 1 then we trade the commodities like that? [12-Apr-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: thanks ! [12-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: (it was just i am a little low on money) xD [12-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, it's kinda silly that you have to set-up 2 contracts for 1 CIS each [12-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wish the game directly supported contracts where you trade 1 good for another [12-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: yeah would be great if it did [12-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: little risky doing it this way if u dont know or trust the other party [12-Apr-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [12-Apr-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: but hopefully everyone stays honest here atleast in the local and we can then all help eachother out to some extend, everyones been very good to me here so far which is very appreciated !<3 [12-Apr-24 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF @ 10.30 till tomorrow 0900 Galactic time [12-Apr-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: will take up to 133332 units [12-Apr-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SOptiprey** joined.* [12-Apr-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Got Gas? Sell your problems to SHIP, we will even pay you for them. 10.3/sf [12-Apr-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac443f9342** left.* [12-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mtkarp** joined.* [12-Apr-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I dun gone and rund out of galerite :/ [12-Apr-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: the inventory buffer triggers my ocd something awful... all those colors out of order [12-Apr-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sort-by-category [12-Apr-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: OMG I didn't even know those were buttons. [12-Apr-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: OMG I can make it a LIST!?!? [12-Apr-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you up to 100 units of GAL for 55 CIS per unit. Send me a contract if interested. [12-Apr-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh no, I mine it. I just added a refinery before adding an extractor. I knew it would be close but it'll be caught up in 3hr. [12-Apr-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay. [12-Apr-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: thanks though [12-Apr-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I added 3 buildings real fast today and got wrecked on RAT and DW lol [12-Apr-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can provide almost anything in small quantities if ever you are stcuk. [12-Apr-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: stuck [12-Apr-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Ive got ads posted, should be ok. [12-Apr-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'll pick up your RAT and DW posts. You have sold me fuel at a reasonable price in the past. [12-Apr-24 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: eeeeek [12-Apr-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: many thanks [12-Apr-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Thanks for supplying my fuel supplier of choice! haha [12-Apr-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Ya, I am sorry I beat you to it :-) [12-Apr-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I've been buying about 2-3k SF from CousinEddie every day. :D [12-Apr-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: He is Churning out the fuel [12-Apr-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well I would too, but it must all be going to you. [12-Apr-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: It's okay, not positive I can keep this pace so there may be some to share. [12-Apr-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: now now fellers, there are more refineries close on the horizon [12-Apr-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well I am going to have to buy some from your competition, I'm afraid. [12-Apr-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Just saw some fall off the LM. I spoke to him too. um.. Eminence32 I think [12-Apr-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I just bought those. [12-Apr-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I refine fuel too, but not as fast as CousinEddie [12-Apr-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: mine mainly goes to my vessels though. [12-Apr-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I think that's what most people are doing here... I don't see a lot of fuel posting on the LM other than my own [12-Apr-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well, I used to but not any more on Katoa. So I need to buy. I will buy all you can make for 10.00 CIS per unit. [12-Apr-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I was posting smaller quantities in the beginning and they always seem to move. [12-Apr-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I sell at 10 all day every day. Goes fast, plenty of margin at this stage. [12-Apr-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I make fuel on Umbra, Proxion, Etherwind and Nemesis. [12-Apr-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Rarely enough to ship to Katoa. [12-Apr-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Only one refinery on each. [12-Apr-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: When you don't have to ship it off world to sell there is definately margin at 10 per. I just buy at 10 and ship to Moria or Antares to sell around 13.5-14 [12-Apr-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh wow [12-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: But it ties up my ships a TON [12-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: so there is a cost to it [12-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I sold in Moria but it doesn't pay if you have to buy it. [12-Apr-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I would be doing that if I was generating a lot of fuel. [12-Apr-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Depends.. full ships.. 8300 SF units. at 10 thats 83k CIS. selling for 22% to 30% gain. [12-Apr-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: maybe if I upgrade a ship I would consider it in the future. [12-Apr-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I sell AFABS in Moria and Antares. [12-Apr-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: But I use my small ship for that. [12-Apr-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I still only have the starter ships.. I think I'm only at week .2.. or maybe just started week 3 [12-Apr-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Mid week three.. [12-Apr-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I still have both startes too, and really only use 1 occasionally... used the other for storage until I upgraded my warehouse. [12-Apr-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: now I just keep ship parts in the 2nd one lol [12-Apr-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It took me a long time to get bigger ships. I had to set up ship building and make as many of the parts as I could. [12-Apr-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I was looking at ship parts on CX and it seems like there isn't really an established market for that yet. [12-Apr-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I started out though making and selling fuel just like you. [12-Apr-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: electronics is really light on CX too [12-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: thought about dabbling in that [12-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You need to buy what you can from where ever and make the rest. [12-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Fuel has the volume to be regular. [12-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have just started making electronics and software. [12-Apr-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: That's why I started there. [12-Apr-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am trying to mkae high price tag items. AFABS and ship parts etc. [12-Apr-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Appliance factory, Prefab plants, Electronics and Software. [12-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: So basically you're trying to bring back Circuit City. [12-Apr-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Ya, pretty much. [12-Apr-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I wouldn't mind getting into AFABS... especially on katoa with its manufacturing buff... mats will be tough to get here though [12-Apr-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Ill probably visit it when I hit 1M in equity. [12-Apr-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It is time to walk my dog. I'll be back in half an hour. [12-Apr-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: CousinEddie, I have a lag for my next set of orders until tomorrow, but probably will put in an order for 5000 units. [12-Apr-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: and can pre-pay then so you can have some more cash for upgrades and such. [12-Apr-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I should be able to start gathering mats for 2 additional refineries now. [12-Apr-24 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ah crap, I need to repair too [12-Apr-24 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I have some... let [12-Apr-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: me look [12-Apr-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: 3 BBH, 1 BSE available. 4th BBH in 4.8 hrs away. [12-Apr-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Can sell them close to cost to you if you want? [12-Apr-24 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Will send DM. [13-Apr-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RANGA01** joined.* [13-Apr-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RANGA01**: HELLO [13-Apr-24 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user471dcaad2d** left.* [13-Apr-24 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RANGA01**: can someone help [13-Apr-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Hello [13-Apr-24 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RANGA01**: hi [13-Apr-24 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf2f22725a5** left.* [13-Apr-24 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toman23477** joined.* [13-Apr-24 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8010cbfb03** left.* [13-Apr-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user42624d06bd** left.* [13-Apr-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1e5dac5986** left.* [13-Apr-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfbf7568c2c** left.* [13-Apr-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF 9.80/Unit Send CONT. Do it for the children of Katoa [13-Apr-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user00dfc942b0** left.* [13-Apr-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HummerSee451437** joined.* [13-Apr-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bereksio** joined.* [13-Apr-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HummerSee451437**: hi [13-Apr-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [13-Apr-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera5cb2b097d** left.* [13-Apr-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abstrakqt** joined.* [13-Apr-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Any Glass Manufacturers? [13-Apr-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I produce glass for my own use. I could provide you with some small amounts. [13-Apr-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I make it on Etherwind but use it on Katoa. [13-Apr-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will be away for 30 minutes or so. [13-Apr-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: @blueheeler How much do you think you can spare and what are you looking to get per unit? [13-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can spare 30 on Katoa and the same on Etherwind. Today, not on a regular basis. For plain glass 180 CIS per unit. I will quote NG and RG if you wish. [13-Apr-24 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pixelriegel** left.* [13-Apr-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: the heck, someone sent me a contract for a 1M loan [13-Apr-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the universe is prosperous indeed [13-Apr-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't know if I should take it. [13-Apr-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: i mean when has taking a small loan of a million dollars ever gone wrong [13-Apr-24 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: when it comes time to pay it back lol [13-Apr-24 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: oh right [13-Apr-24 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: when do you have to pay it back [13-Apr-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: well, it looks like this is like a year long loan, but that cant be right can it? [13-Apr-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: i mean maybe but is there an interst rate? [13-Apr-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: talk to the person offering it. it might just be a gift [13-Apr-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: it's 52 installments or interest, and the last installment includes the original million [13-Apr-24 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: i mean if its like a normal loan then you'd just want to make sure that your profit/day is more then the installments [13-Apr-24 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Vox Lunaris [13-Apr-24 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: and that the million would actually be able to be invested in such a way to make it worth the loan [13-Apr-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Oh I can drop a 1M pretty quick on buildings. [13-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: The question is how long would it take me to make enough fuel to pay it back lol [13-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 1.132M [13-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: that or do goods shipping/trading to try and profit another million on top [13-Apr-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: prunplanner is your friend in this case [13-Apr-24 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kimek** joined.* [13-Apr-24 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Coldfire fire sale at Katoa LM. [13-Apr-24 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: some nice deals there [13-Apr-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WraithOfGreed**: hey just posted a couple ads on the local market at katoa for some drinking water and rations to hold me over to until my ship arrives back at benten i=f anyone could fill them it would be a massive help! thanks [13-Apr-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all set [13-Apr-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WraithOfGreed**: thanks eminence [13-Apr-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WraithOfGreed**: o7 [13-Apr-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf636734531** left.* [14-Apr-24 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***david.duda02** joined.* [14-Apr-24 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vindo**: how to get a loan for 1 million? [14-Apr-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user734ffd28ed** left.* [14-Apr-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't know what the process is. Someone saw an offhand comment I made in global chat and just sent me a contract lol [14-Apr-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pucmeloud1380** joined.* [14-Apr-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Respektschelle** left.* [14-Apr-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9fce52ed4f** left.* [14-Apr-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ambakisye** left.* [14-Apr-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fynecut** joined.* [14-Apr-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sir_PhantomArdenwell** left.* [14-Apr-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***johnd91** joined.* [14-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jtz** joined.* [14-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 13 days in and wanting 1 mil quite the request [14-Apr-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I applaud the dedication of wanting to grow fast :) [14-Apr-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kubby** joined.* [14-Apr-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kubby**: What would be some good starting productions here? [14-Apr-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I ahve always felt that making fule was a good start. You are going to need it and you can sell what you don't need. You have to import H and TS - I can provide bothas you start out. [14-Apr-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Man I have been so dyslexic lately. Have and fuel. [14-Apr-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Ammonia and Galerite you can get locally with an EXT and COL. [14-Apr-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You can also collect and sell Oxygen when you have enough Ammonia. [14-Apr-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kubby**: ok [14-Apr-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't remember what you have to start with but I can help you get started with some almost free stuff. [14-Apr-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: To make fuel you will need 2 HB1, 1 HB2, 1 COL, 1EXT and 1REF. And you will need H and TS. [14-Apr-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Are you a PRO or FREE account? [14-Apr-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kubby**: free [14-Apr-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you are FREE I don't think I can help you with almost free stuff because you can't do individual contracts, sorry. [14-Apr-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It was a long time ago when I started and I never was playing FREE. 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[14-Apr-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: can do 10k now [14-Apr-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'd do 11.80 on it, send CONT if acceptable [14-Apr-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Sounds good! [14-Apr-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Pick up now or you need a couple days [14-Apr-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'll pay and take it now if youve got it [14-Apr-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: I'd prepay for SF if you have the materials to change over production [14-Apr-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Only have 6k SF right now [14-Apr-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'll take it at 10.20 [14-Apr-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Ill be expanding production, not here though [14-Apr-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1dcedd33ad** left.* [14-Apr-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: where at? [14-Apr-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: JS-299B [14-Apr-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Next expansion is 3 HB1 and 3 REF to fully move my fuel production [14-Apr-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: ok, i'll buy it on that planet but pricing would be .1 cheaper since i'll have to sit on it longer and transport it further [14-Apr-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Im still moving most of it, will be a bit before i fully expand [14-Apr-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: INS is a bit brutal lol [14-Apr-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: yup, right there with you on that one [14-Apr-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF [14-Apr-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: yes eddie, just send me the contract [14-Apr-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: <3 [14-Apr-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I just got 1M for expansion teehee [14-Apr-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: what are you gunna do with it? [14-Apr-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: build stuff. [14-Apr-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: well, fix stuff, then build stuff. [14-Apr-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I might feed people while Im at it. [14-Apr-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: nah, no need [14-Apr-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: you gunna make more SF? [14-Apr-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea, I'm sticking to SF for now [14-Apr-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: check DMs [14-Apr-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf737d18c49** left.* [14-Apr-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9433c01900** left.* [14-Apr-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I put a warehouse and a local market on JS-299B, BTW. 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[15-Apr-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: PE is probly all i could spare sadly [15-Apr-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nice. strike is over :) [15-Apr-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @CptColeslaw let us know if there was any taxes shortfall for the COGC this week [15-Apr-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedSus** left.* [15-Apr-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rasd**: RIOT RIOT RIOT! [15-Apr-24 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hisH3RO** joined.* [15-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***longarm12** joined.* [15-Apr-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***danielfisher190** joined.* [15-Apr-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GilaTheBloodspilla** joined.* [15-Apr-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: aaahhhh crap, sry. I went camping for a few days and forgot to check that first. Thank you everyone who pitched in there. It wasn't a tax issue so I'm sending you contracts to reimburse those materials [15-Apr-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all good, no worries. we shoved a bunch of materials at the problem and got the workers working within minutes :) [15-Apr-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc047259ae2** left.* [15-Apr-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: damn charged me for my own PE lol [15-Apr-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: sent some more, lol :P [15-Apr-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: who the heck is trying to buy SF at like 5 CIS/unit lol [15-Apr-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: someone who is very optimistic [15-Apr-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: LOL no worries happy to dono PE. . . as long as dont have to do the DW or RAT that might break me [15-Apr-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: KAWA internal corp pricing. some corps with lower internal pricing still use the local market for trading because it's less clicks than a CONTD @cousineddie [15-Apr-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JamesHart**: thank you Cpt. [15-Apr-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how do you see who contributed to a previous upkeep phase? [15-Apr-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I seeeeeeeeeee [15-Apr-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think the previous upkeep phase entered strike mode, and then we filled the upkeep requirements, and then the local community almost instantly filled the next upkeep phase [15-Apr-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF @ 10.2 [15-Apr-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***grtAttractor** left.* [15-Apr-24 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dyskra** joined.* [15-Apr-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ketofgra** left.* [15-Apr-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jets1111** left.* [15-Apr-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Does anyone have 8 PIB.CI1 that I can buy for a non-ridiculous price? 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[16-Apr-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sa77ron** left.* [16-Apr-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I fixed mine around 82% [16-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [16-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: yowza [16-Apr-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parus**: is that high for SF? [16-Apr-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: about 10% [16-Apr-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: has been hanging around 10.20-10.40 for a while. [16-Apr-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parus**: I'm just going to warn you guys, the price of PE is going to CRASH. I have a whole THREE BMPs on Katoa which are going to be put to work [16-Apr-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Parus**: and in a few days I might even have FOUR BMPs. It's going to be big, guys. [16-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: good, sell me stuff. [16-Apr-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: In Workforce whats the number in brackets? e.g. 240(40) [16-Apr-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I think it's the number of workers pulled from the planet pool that week. [16-Apr-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Thanks [16-Apr-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I do remember looking that up about 3 months ago, and where ever I found the answer was not super clear on if it was even relevant on a populated planet. [16-Apr-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: such PE [16-Apr-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: much wow [16-Apr-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AtlasTarr** joined.* [16-Apr-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Martin_Du_Annes**: How much does "Total Safisfaction" affect personnel productivity?, is there a graph about it? [16-Apr-24 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not positive about this, but i think it's just a simple multiplier [16-Apr-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: PE good. [16-Apr-24 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: buying SF [16-Apr-24 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dhf12** joined.* [17-Apr-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaljuUrho** left.* [17-Apr-24 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***steelkiller** left.* [17-Apr-24 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Someone got like 100 GAL? ill "trade" you 100 H ;p [17-Apr-24 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TrustMe707** joined.* [17-Apr-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MSherman1204** left.* [17-Apr-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreenHedge** joined.* [17-Apr-24 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eno_Phmann** joined.* [17-Apr-24 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GreenHedge**: I just bought something from the exchange, where is it? [17-Apr-24 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: if you have a warehouse at the CX (you have to rent it) in the warehouse, if not... you have a ship at the CX than in ships cargo, if not... than it is in the CONTracts [17-Apr-24 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: you have to get your ship there and can fullfill than the contract [17-Apr-24 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Eno_Phmann**: contracts are some of the most important things you can do in the game. Just make sure the ones you take you can easily and cheaply do. [17-Apr-24 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grodan** left.* [17-Apr-24 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jfwlkeflwl41** left.* [17-Apr-24 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Eno_Phmann**: Gonna have to triple production before heading to sell or else I will lose money on fuel costs. 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[17-Apr-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my today-only deal is 250 per unit, but you have to pick up at benten station πŸ˜‰ [17-Apr-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ahhhh. I already left there :/ [17-Apr-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: hey wait a minute.... [17-Apr-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I see what you did there. [17-Apr-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfa6859f99e** left.* [17-Apr-24 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vanguarder** joined.* [17-Apr-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pelliosgaropulous** joined.* [17-Apr-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: buying SF [17-Apr-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: paying 10.5 [17-Apr-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: will pay 10.9 for 66,666 units [17-Apr-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: someone got 420 MCG for sale? [17-Apr-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zzzoey** left.* [17-Apr-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure. is 28 CIS per unit okay for you? [17-Apr-24 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i posted a sell ad on the LM if you're interested [17-Apr-24 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ponzey10** left.* [18-Apr-24 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lionskrike** left.* [18-Apr-24 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7c83ebab87** left.* [18-Apr-24 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SSF** left.* [18-Apr-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrustyWalnuts** left.* [18-Apr-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caladan** joined.* [18-Apr-24 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Disturbedmayhem** left.* [18-Apr-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ferdi_Fuchs** joined.* [18-Apr-24 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mhammerc** joined.* [18-Apr-24 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DocMage95** left.* [18-Apr-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Ah shoot missed the LM [18-Apr-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: sent a contract [18-Apr-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh wait, i'm just an idiot. i placed the LM ad on the wrong planet [18-Apr-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i accepted your contract [18-Apr-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: buying SF 105 private contracts, several 10/u contracts on LM for dumbos who struggle to read local chats [18-Apr-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 10.5. . . not 105 lol [18-Apr-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vanguarder**: how do I check how much cash I have so I can see how many of each building material I can buy [18-Apr-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: left side panel "SDBR" [18-Apr-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vanguarder**: ok thanks [18-Apr-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or open the FINLA command [18-Apr-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: "dumbos" more of i dont want to have to always make a contract [18-Apr-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechnoGold01** joined.* [18-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @shillerhobbs im hppy to right up the contract, matters little to me. do you have SF? [18-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: happy to write up* < having a stroke it seems [18-Apr-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monopoly** joined.* [18-Apr-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stormsire12** joined.* [18-Apr-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChillTrade** joined.* [18-Apr-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tmat** joined.* [18-Apr-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Massena** joined.* [18-Apr-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Huzzaah I see you evading those taxes :P [18-Apr-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Governors Hate This One Trick [18-Apr-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: anyone sell me 200 RAT? 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[19-Apr-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: now [19-Apr-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***M4rv0L** joined.* [19-Apr-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Martin_Du_Annes**: ye, you either, mass import it, or produce it [19-Apr-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I have 6 REF now, and I haven't had much trouble staying in the black buying H. I just buy in bulk and hang on to it. Helps if youve upgraded your warehouse. [19-Apr-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [19-Apr-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [19-Apr-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [19-Apr-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [19-Apr-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 10.00cis fuel is going to be rough to sustain if workforce support items are going to inflate out of control :/ [19-Apr-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crazyadz** left.* [19-Apr-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drvic10k** left.* [19-Apr-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lighthunger** left.* [19-Apr-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drucker**: Thank you all for the input! 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Interested in buying a spare. [20-Apr-24 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @Tempor - did you get the BBH that you wanted? If not send me a contract. 2110 CIS for 1 BBH [20-Apr-24 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [20-Apr-24 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [20-Apr-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: @BlueHeeler I did not. I'll put a contract together. Thanks a bunch, that's twice you've helped me out [21-Apr-24 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sorry for the delay. I had gone to bed. You're welcome any time. [21-Apr-24 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: Someone at Katoa need 11K of PE.CI1 @7,99 CIS? [21-Apr-24 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: sure [21-Apr-24 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: Offer is out :) @bojidar008 [21-Apr-24 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: I would like to buy at Katoa 300 H.CI1 @85 - LMA UV-351a/68060 [21-Apr-24 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***christiaanviljoen77** left.* [21-Apr-24 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***christiaanviljoen77** joined.* [21-Apr-24 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rishabh_Inc** joined.* [21-Apr-24 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***okatakab** left.* [21-Apr-24 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spark78901** joined.* [21-Apr-24 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toman23477** left.* [21-Apr-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bundeskanzler** left.* [21-Apr-24 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rainstorm** left.* [21-Apr-24 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Anyone have GL.CI1 I can purchase on Katoa? [21-Apr-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RANGA01** left.* [21-Apr-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you up to 50 units of GL - 224 CIS per uniit. If you are interested send me a contract @PsyNami [21-Apr-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tagli** joined.* [21-Apr-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KastorSF** left.* [21-Apr-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [21-Apr-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [21-Apr-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jonathanblanchard1337** joined.* [21-Apr-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a good time to be a fuel producer near benten [21-Apr-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I haven't jacked up my prices... still in the black, but only just. [21-Apr-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: What happened to our SF price. I've never sold local with our low price and suddenly BEN price hits 13 and 14? [21-Apr-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: The last week everything took a spike [21-Apr-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Its because I've stopped selling... I'm OPEC'ing everyone :) [21-Apr-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: trade volume looks pretty normal, so maybe enough people moved away from fuel production? [21-Apr-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm sure these high prices aren't going to last [21-Apr-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: I've fired up my only refinery :) [21-Apr-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: My workers are unhappy right now, no coffee and no overalls - I'm literally working with zombies in underwear [21-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: lol [21-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm selling some OVE on the LM if you're desperate [21-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: thanks, but I need to teach these unions a lesson [21-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: give them something to cry about [21-Apr-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: :) [21-Apr-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I got new computer parts today :D [21-Apr-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GhoStalker** joined.* [21-Apr-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: exciting [21-Apr-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea, now I can watch the timer on my refineries in 4K [21-Apr-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mtkarp** left.* [21-Apr-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: those timers will look AMAZING!! :'D [21-Apr-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jonathanblanchard1337**: any1 know y i cant drag anything im just highlighting everything [21-Apr-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not sure how to fix that. i don't think i've ever seen that problem. are you on mobile, or in a desktop browser? [21-Apr-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Eno_Phmann**: Are you trying to move a buffer into your main screen? [21-Apr-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9aa9bfe19** left.* [21-Apr-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea this UI is not click and drag friendly. I had to make my own window, and looking at it this morning, I need to redo it so I can get my fleet window in too. [21-Apr-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: well... *screen*/*buffer* [21-Apr-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ozmanthis** joined.* [21-Apr-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: Heya does anyone got about 50 hydrogen on katoa ? Just need something meanwhile my ships are in transit [21-Apr-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Ad at LM @InterGalacticWolf [21-Apr-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TsarBombEater** joined.* [21-Apr-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: posted one there now [21-Apr-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol willger posted a selling ad and you posted a buying ad [21-Apr-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: But he wanted hydrogen or not [21-Apr-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh oh [21-Apr-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorry, ignore me, i can't read [21-Apr-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: @InterGalacticWolf AMM or H ??? [21-Apr-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tiddythesamurai**: Got about 150t/200m^3 of space left for a run to Benten Station if anyone wants, leaving in like 8 hours [21-Apr-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @tiddythesamurai small shipping order is up on the LM [21-Apr-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tiddythesamurai**: got it, its in my cargo hold, bout 125t/250m^3 left for anyone else [21-Apr-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***newt_** joined.* [21-Apr-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zimmerphrame** joined.* [21-Apr-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abstrakqt** left.* [21-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pojeb** left.* [21-Apr-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: @eminence32 lmao so thats what he ment by going to the lm, because i checked lm before posting text then he said to go on ads.. so i assumed he told me to post up xD [21-Apr-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: @wilger it was H, however eminece sold me what i needed [21-Apr-24 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user88dc9c17b6** left.* [22-Apr-24 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***J.Pela** joined.* [22-Apr-24 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [22-Apr-24 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [22-Apr-24 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nelson117323** joined.* [22-Apr-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orangensaftmixer** joined.* [22-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xyramaldoku** joined.* [22-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grammar** joined.* [22-Apr-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bereksio** left.* [22-Apr-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Manta_Ray** joined.* [22-Apr-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Piccar** joined.* [22-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Piccar** left.* [22-Apr-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hooligan** left.* [22-Apr-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: So why is katoa good for manufacturing? [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Planet bonus [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: I've been running some numbers for PE/PG, BDE/BTA, ect, but the margin doesn't seem to be that high [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: BFab is construction, not manufacturing [22-Apr-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: HQ upgrades give you efficinecy bonuses [22-Apr-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: whoa, efficiency [22-Apr-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: More permits dilutes the efficiency gains though. [22-Apr-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's lots of useful stuff you can make in a BMP [22-Apr-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: Ah, I was looking at the wrong buildings then :D [22-Apr-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can make PE in a BMP (which is manufacturing). but not PG [22-Apr-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (for that, look at a planet like Umbra which has a chemistry COGC) [22-Apr-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh does it.... [22-Apr-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: yeah, been a fuel engi so far, and trying to pick up a new industry along side it [22-Apr-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i personal do both fuel and manufacturing on katoa. i personally like having a diversified production base [22-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: Yeah, that's my plan for now, gonna be really interesting to figure this whole new batch of recipes out [22-Apr-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimBringer** left.* [22-Apr-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kimek** left.* [22-Apr-24 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fynecut** left.* [23-Apr-24 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Widevernon** joined.* [23-Apr-24 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Widevernon**: I am new but.... hopefully I can figure this all out [23-Apr-24 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Widevernon**: Future fuel monopolist here... [23-Apr-24 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: welcome to the home of fuel farmers lol [23-Apr-24 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Widevernon**: I am glad to be here. Just curious, is fuel valuable? I figured it'd be one of the more valuable products since everyone needs fuel for everything [23-Apr-24 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Omraq** joined.* [23-Apr-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: sorry new here myself [23-Apr-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: it's got a market but i suspect you're not the only one with the fuel idea [23-Apr-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: generally katoa/benten is gonna be pretty saturated so price isn't high but it's not worth it early game to try and ship at farther systems [23-Apr-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: i will say it's a pretty cheap investment to get into and simple product chain [23-Apr-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: personally i'm shooting for saving up enough to double my production and then colonizing another base on a planet with the resources for FTL [23-Apr-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sickvileilk**: for reference btw, i wouldn't sell/make FTL fuel, i'd stick to STL [23-Apr-24 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noak** joined.* [23-Apr-24 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Li_Am** left.* [23-Apr-24 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Fuel production is a grind. Work your margins, budget accordingly. [23-Apr-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Most of the fuel produced on Katoa is done so for the refiners own usage. [23-Apr-24 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I easily sell 4400 SF/day here through contracts. Don't even really need to use the LM to sell fuel but I used to. [23-Apr-24 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [23-Apr-24 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [23-Apr-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Witek175** joined.* [23-Apr-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: Prun Planner works really well for balancing your EXTs and REFs, knowing how many experts to put where, seeing how much AMM and H to order. Pretty handy for a fuel monkey like me. [23-Apr-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Norf**: But I also have a big spreadsheet on the side, just crunching my numbers. 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[24-Apr-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep [24-Apr-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uzihead** joined.* [24-Apr-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SOptiprey** left.* [24-Apr-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***spyking62** joined.* [24-Apr-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***King_Frosty18** joined.* [24-Apr-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lilrebel** left.* [24-Apr-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xyramaldoku**: I can't connect the FIO do the APEX, I refresh APEX and nothing happens [24-Apr-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rageoholic** left.* [24-Apr-24 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa22b0a93b** left.* [24-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***irkman4536** left.* [24-Apr-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I could really go for some cheesecake... [24-Apr-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Xyramaldoku you might want to ask on the PCT discord https://discord.gg/4DddsTTt [24-Apr-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ocydduysxalhmlttgs** joined.* [24-Apr-24 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hutima** joined.* [24-Apr-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KebabXP2** joined.* [24-Apr-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wendigo22** joined.* [24-Apr-24 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SneakyBeastx** joined.* [25-Apr-24 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***42cheese** left.* [25-Apr-24 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Xyramaldoku**: @eminence32 it started working all of the sudden! thanks anyway! 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[27-Apr-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: GM. 9K hauling going from BEN to ANT on the BEN LM. Broken up in 500u chunks. Just doing standard 12/u since it is not a rush. [27-Apr-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: Upping them to 15/u as we speak [27-Apr-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: And yes I rented enough warehouse space in ANT in case some greybeard wants to get cute and drop them all off in the same minute. 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Keen to bring additional shipments back with me. [30-Apr-24 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: arriving at Katoa in roughly 1.5-2 days [30-Apr-24 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gromozeka** left.* [30-Apr-24 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edselk** joined.* [30-Apr-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emukiller339** left.* [30-Apr-24 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nelson117323** left.* [30-Apr-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: disregard, ship is in transit [30-Apr-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnityIsBetter** joined.* [30-Apr-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EClaesson** joined.* [30-Apr-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnityIsBetter** left.* [30-Apr-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnityIsBetter** joined.* [30-Apr-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Anyone selling DW, RAT, COF and KOM. the person i was buying from left the game :( [30-Apr-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I feel your pain. I think we were buying form the same person [30-Apr-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Oh brutal [30-Apr-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Hermanek [30-Apr-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Yep the same [30-Apr-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Well. . . who wants to start doing food lol im sure a few can hook it up with cheap stuffs we make [30-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sadly, my food production base on pygos is barely keeping up with my own needs [30-Apr-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I hear its a lot to get setup [30-Apr-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: looks like lots of water [30-Apr-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have expansion plans, but base permits are starting to get expensive :) [30-Apr-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: xh083c has tones of water... I might have to start a base there. [30-Apr-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: tons, not tones [30-Apr-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I was just lookin at that lol [30-Apr-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: has FP COGC as well [30-Apr-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: as resrouces go though, water is pretty cheap [30-Apr-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: resources* [30-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: CH-771a [30-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: selling water for 70!?! [30-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: agriculture cogc but way better furtility [30-Apr-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: wow spelling [30-Apr-24 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: love that furtility [30-Apr-24 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: feuertility [30-Apr-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I wonder why theyre selling water so expensive in the LM there... [30-Apr-24 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: CH-771a has a agri bonus, and next door is CH-771b which has food processing bonuses. so if you can spare 2 permits, that combo could be good [30-Apr-24 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I pretty much only put higher prices on LM here lol [30-Apr-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: It will be a bit before i can get two more permits, just expanded [30-Apr-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what HQ level are you at now? [30-Apr-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (same question for you @CousinEddie) [30-Apr-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: just one increase so far, 3/3 base permits [30-Apr-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I think ill need a ship upgrade or another ship before another planet but not sure [30-Apr-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Lvl 2 HQ, 3/3 permits. [30-Apr-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh wait... [30-Apr-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Katoa 553 / 1000 1 / 3 [30-Apr-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: HQ says 3/3, but Bases Buffer says 1/3 [30-Apr-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't know [30-Apr-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF and FF [30-Apr-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***endlesscosmos** joined.* [30-Apr-24 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Freezerassasin**: Posted small STL contract on LM [30-Apr-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: got a full load of SF in JS and Katoa, plus one full load of FF in Katoa [30-Apr-24 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toscus** left.* [01-May-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: SF.CI1 [01-May-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: FF.CI1 [01-May-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnityIsBetter** deleted this message.* [01-May-24 04:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrlkangaroo** joined.* [01-May-24 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buzz1203** left.* [01-May-24 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user184b7348cf** left.* [01-May-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc6373e9795** left.* [01-May-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user528b49cc7d** left.* [01-May-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user24316c8f90** left.* [01-May-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rishabh_Inc** left.* [01-May-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alatank** joined.* [01-May-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user62211606c7** left.* [01-May-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goshikkyo** joined.* [01-May-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera7f670bf43** left.* [01-May-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd14e936ed7** left.* [01-May-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user06eedbe835** left.* [01-May-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calstel** joined.* [02-May-24 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roxamon** joined.* [02-May-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fastrocket0102** joined.* [02-May-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roxamon**: Hi guys [02-May-24 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roxamon**: What are you currently producing? [02-May-24 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: Fuel [02-May-24 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: I was told to produce some agicultural stuff, but the earnings per minute was lower compared to just producing more fuel [02-May-24 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: Hi! Can anyone sell me 100 RAT here on Katoa? I misplaned a little bit and don't want to send an empty ship to the CX if I can avoid it. [02-May-24 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: I dont have my P rating yet >:C [02-May-24 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: Put out a purchase advert? [02-May-24 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: not yet [02-May-24 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: Do you have a Pro or Basic Licence? [02-May-24 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: Trial, I just started two days ago [02-May-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: Id still have to pick up more Rats so it would take 24 hours regardless [02-May-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: ok. Then you can't take any ads from the LM, as far as I know. Not sure about private contracts though [02-May-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: ohh, I thought it was just posting adds [02-May-24 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: Unfortunatelly the whole LM ist only for Pro/Basic. Same for private contracts [02-May-24 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: ahh I see [02-May-24 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: but thanks for the offer anyway [02-May-24 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChuckVader** left.* [02-May-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: did you get RAT Elaria? [02-May-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF @ 10.9 Buying [02-May-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying FF @ 12.4 Buying [02-May-24 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: Not yet @Hazzaah [02-May-24 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc0857d9b4b** left.* [02-May-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: ive only got 20 but i'll invoice you for them if it helps [02-May-24 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have a bunch [02-May-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: contract sent @Elaria [02-May-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: taken and paid. Thanks @eminence32 [02-May-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user45b9fac2a2** left.* [02-May-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fl0wey** joined.* [02-May-24 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: Can someone tell me How much water the rig produces? And how much time it takes to produce said water [02-May-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Xyramaldoku**: @UnityIsBetter 3 water are produced every 6h and 9min (assuming you don't use any luxury consumabled) [02-May-24 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **UnityIsBetter**: Thank you @Xyramaldoku [02-May-24 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Xyramaldoku**: np [02-May-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fl0wey** left.* [02-May-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crono** joined.* [02-May-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mza533943** joined.* [02-May-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pheloinix** joined.* [02-May-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [02-May-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [02-May-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Who is the PP1/2 source round here? I'm going to have a list... 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Leaving in a few hours [03-May-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: 465t/329m [03-May-24 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluntz** deleted this message.* [03-May-24 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Leaving in 30 mins [03-May-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fafin** left.* [03-May-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dominaria** left.* [03-May-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Razor170** joined.* [03-May-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user71b1cdaf8b** left.* [03-May-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf647973859** left.* [03-May-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alltheanime** left.* [03-May-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdauf** joined.* [03-May-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere73890e2fc** left.* [04-May-24 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***joemanuel123** joined.* [04-May-24 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***joemanuel123** left.* [04-May-24 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***joemanuel123** joined.* [04-May-24 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: WTB - COF, anyone have some they can spare? Like 20 maybe? 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[06-May-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarmat** left.* [06-May-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Depends on what you are doing Nerdy [06-May-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LutyMcShooty** joined.* [06-May-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Why does it take longer to fly from a planet to a station than to fly back to the planet [06-May-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the planets are moving [06-May-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LRM** left.* [06-May-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Theoutkast** joined.* [06-May-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: because flat Earth. 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Galacticism would be your enemy you don't understand in this regard. 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[07-May-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I'll pay 2k ea [07-May-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhantomVoidwalker** joined.* [07-May-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I do [07-May-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: same, let me know if you still need some [07-May-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @deckss got it! thanks Deckss, everyone enjoy your new 500 wh space :) [07-May-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: \o/ [07-May-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Vote Fuel!! :) [07-May-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol [07-May-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD ahahahah!! so it was all just a ploy :P I see now, lol [07-May-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the fuel kids pulled it off once a few months ago [07-May-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I got 4000 influence as of today so... <3 [07-May-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: big capt [07-May-24 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***h20h20** left.* [08-May-24 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jahrakal** left.* [08-May-24 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea this should be a fuel production planet... I guess with 66% resources AND the bonus it might be a little OP [08-May-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Ooo I have 2050 influence... is that a lot? [08-May-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: How is that figured? Number of employees? Buildings? [08-May-24 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edselk** left.* [08-May-24 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HoldMySock** joined.* [08-May-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: number of workers weighted by the tier of the workers [08-May-24 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deinfinit.io** joined.* [08-May-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orangensaftmixer** left.* [08-May-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vardilka** joined.* [08-May-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Barken** joined.* [08-May-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CagierComic45** joined.* [08-May-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eddycat2010** joined.* [08-May-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Where did the SF at BEN go? [08-May-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: holy heck [08-May-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's times like these that i really wish you could see closed orders on the CX [08-May-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: How much SF you need, and how quick? I produce on Katoa. [08-May-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: look at the order book @CousinEddie [08-May-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I see it. Looks like some folks forgot to check their fuel tanks and can't make it home [08-May-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Well see what it looks like in a couple days. SF has been spikey the last couple weeks. [08-May-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [08-May-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [08-May-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Look at this guy [08-May-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Trying to snipe Hydrogen [08-May-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: What does it mean if a planet on the map doesn't show any resources, but PrunPlanner shows it has some...? [08-May-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saintz-Co.** left.* [08-May-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mulriken** left.* [08-May-24 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: which planet? 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[10-May-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helminsted**: like... 6 hours to, 6 hours back i mean [10-May-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Istuman** left.* [10-May-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***janmo_wi** left.* [10-May-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SPQRcorp** joined.* [10-May-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CriminalMaid** joined.* [10-May-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0359dec8b0** left.* [10-May-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OGVxrge** joined.* [10-May-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Idk, could've been a quirk with the orbital placement. At the time I posted minimum fuel was a 10 day flight. Still haven't left yet. 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[11-May-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: MB.CI1 [11-May-24 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I do. Send me a contract. [11-May-24 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have 47 actually. [11-May-24 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jebthesecondofengland**: r u waltuh [11-May-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It is my policy to charge bid price at the CX so make it 4800 CIS per unit. [11-May-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can't sell you all 47 though. [11-May-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cryptos99** joined.* [11-May-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I just need 1. Cont sent for 1. 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Fuel sells quickly so if we all sold for the same price, it will sell for that price and you won't be missed out. Currently, we drive thr price down ourselves, for no good reason. I propose a solid price of 13.00 CIS p/u [14-May-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: FF or SF [14-May-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: SF should be 7 and FF should be 9. Every new buch of players gets greader and greader. [14-May-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: SF demand pushes the price not greed honestly [14-May-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: FF doesnt have the demand, it is a little high but i wouldn't say crazy. [14-May-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 13 is high for SF, on par for FF [14-May-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Your world view is 52 days, mine is 1139. When I started fuel was always under 10 for either though FF was always a bit higher due to material costs. [14-May-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: pack in my day i paid .25 for a litre of petrol [14-May-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: XD [14-May-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: demand was lower then, and fuel is a MM product. You dont have people buying 35k worth of SF every 3 days 1139 days ago [14-May-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: You can even see an exponential increase in SF demand on the 180d chart, and thats as far back as it goes [14-May-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 1139 days ago I was producing and selling fuel. Struggling to get started. There was no Warehouse or Local Market. [14-May-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Yup, and MM selling of SF was common im sure [14-May-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: because there wasnt the demand for it there was today [14-May-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: There are more fuel producers now than ever and that should bring the cost down, not up. [14-May-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: theres also more ships now than ever [14-May-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Demand increase, price increase. simple as that [14-May-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: and fuel cost is the least of your worries in this game. even at 12, SF producers make far less than many other industries [14-May-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: BlueHeeler had to carry their fuel uphill, BOTH WAYS, to get it to market [14-May-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Blueheelr built the hill before he could travel on it both ways. [14-May-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: recently i noticed someone bought out my sell order at 12 and immediately relisted it at 13. if you have the cash to do that, go for it. but i personally think there's too many fuel sellers to price fix [14-May-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: was probably me honestly, a whale cleared the order books in BEN a little while ago, i averaged it down to 12.5 [14-May-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 30d chart for SF is kinda cool traditional head and shoulders. 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[15-May-24 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **veryfight4**: are all utilities included? [16-May-24 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sigmar_gathus** joined.* [16-May-24 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deGlutes** left.* [16-May-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yellowman021** left.* [16-May-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThReeDise** joined.* [16-May-24 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CocainePotato** joined.* [16-May-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhantomVoidwalker** left.* [16-May-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF is going wild right now [16-May-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF.NC1 [16-May-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF.AI1 [16-May-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: SF.IC1 [16-May-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: everywhere except here :) [16-May-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CocainePotato**: this game is about as confusing as Space Citizen when u start out [16-May-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CocainePotato**: (i have about 5 mins of active playtime) [16-May-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: not trying to disagree, but the FX on all currencies away from CI is ~5%, so unless you have backhaul the spreads not actually that good [16-May-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CocainePotato**: bless you [16-May-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome to the game @CocainePotato [16-May-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: Welcome! [16-May-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: People need to burn less SF! There should be a galactic Hydrogen Tax! 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[17-May-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: gonna charge you 3% over CX prices for the emergency delivery fee :) [17-May-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: whats the total coming down to ? [17-May-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: oh lol i see yeh thats fine [17-May-24 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: cheers, forgot to watch my resources last night and ran out over night -.- [17-May-24 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it happens :) [17-May-24 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: xD now im back up n running atleast so thank you haha [17-May-24 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sometimes i wake up to find that i've forgotten to add more queued orders to a production line [17-May-24 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and i have a big pile of workers just sitting around drinking coffee and ale doing nothing [17-May-24 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: xD [17-May-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **InterGalacticWolf**: have to run got some stuff to do and places to be today, ill probably be on later have a good one ! 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[19-May-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ticken_Chenders** joined.* [19-May-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drucker**: Can anyone point me to information on how I can build a new ship? Looking to build a super tanker to move all of my fuel. [19-May-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the direct answer is open the `BLU` command to create a new blueprint, and then use it to start a project at a shipyard [19-May-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but before you do that, consider joining the UFO discord -- there are several shipbuilders there who offer builds [19-May-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (sometimes at prices better than you can get on the CX) [19-May-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AoifeT** left.* [19-May-24 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ilgam** left.* [19-May-24 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arv1d** joined.* [19-May-24 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eagles20** joined.* [20-May-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gundhi** joined.* [20-May-24 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bjarte12** joined.* [20-May-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Keep the fuel at this price level! Stop dipping below 12! 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[20-May-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nope, you need PRO [20-May-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zorlax82** joined.* [20-May-24 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prismfloof** joined.* [20-May-24 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zorlax82** left.* [20-May-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zorlax82** joined.* [20-May-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zorlax82** left.* [20-May-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thecoolmime** joined.* [21-May-24 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TIGERKHAN** joined.* [21-May-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***scarretje** joined.* [21-May-24 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mossyegghead01** joined.* [21-May-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Anyone have GAL I can buy off them? [21-May-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: GAL.CI1 [21-May-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how much do you need? [21-May-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: maybe 100 for now. [21-May-24 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, i can supply that [21-May-24 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: but thinking about removing my extractors so might be a regular-ish thing. [21-May-24 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I'll send a contract for 100, will you do 69 per? [21-May-24 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, that sounds fine [21-May-24 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can't supply GAL long term. my 3 extractors aren't enough for my own consumption, so i buy about half of my own needs at the CX [21-May-24 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Oh. I'm sorry for buying your extras. [21-May-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no worries. i currently have about 1200 units in store, so i'm happy to sell 100 [21-May-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Thanks again. [21-May-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brosiah5** joined.* [21-May-24 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Eminence, sent you a PM. [21-May-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: @eminence32 [21-May-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jarram11**: Any Corps on Kotoa looking for a new member? [21-May-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pino8899** left.* [21-May-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: could join KAWA :) [21-May-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: msg me if you want more details. [21-May-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Last call for leasing my katoa base, else i'm salvaging tomorrow [21-May-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: DM me if you have a use for 460 area on katoa [21-May-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: what typ of buildings do you have> [21-May-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: whatever you want, DM me [21-May-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how would the lease work? someone tells you what to build, they provide contracts for providing input materials, and you charge a small fee? [21-May-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: basically yes [21-May-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what are your fees? [21-May-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll send you a DM in a little bit [21-May-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: yeah, pleae do, just let me know what production you have in mind so we can best work it out [21-May-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grizzly09877679** left.* [21-May-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Private_Bryan85** joined.* [21-May-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***__Hadess__** left.* [21-May-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: is it worth to start saving materials for a 2nd base as a new player? [21-May-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you generally want to fill up your first base before worrying about getting a second base [21-May-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: gotcha [21-May-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: once your first base is 500/500, yes. and depending on what your primary inputs are. the "CM" which is the base building module costs ~140k so thats a factor [21-May-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: the efficiency gamer in me just sees that my production requires Hydrogen, and i dont have access to it on my starting world [21-May-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: will settle for buying stores of it.... for now [21-May-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: wanting to have another base to produce your own inputs is a good instinct. but also you should get comfortable with the idea of buying a lot of stuff at the CX [21-May-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: using all my starting capital to build more extractors atm [21-May-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a good move [21-May-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: better move is to sell everything at BEN and trade materials from CX-CX [21-May-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: GAL isn't all that expensive to buy, but you'll be able to produce it for less yourself. also it's heavy, so not having to ship it in is nice [21-May-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: but if you arnt a min-max chad, you start with excess fuel so dont be afraid to dump that [21-May-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: don't let anyone else tell you how to play this game. you can totally min-max everything if you want. but i personally think it's more fun to be like "i like coffee, so i just want to make more coffee for the rest of the universe" [21-May-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: as tempted as i am to burn this fuel to get these construct prefabs back to base faster [21-May-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: i really dont see a point [21-May-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: save 5hr just to wait another 20 [21-May-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: i just have a ship parked at cx with some cargo, waiting to see if ill need anything else before i return to depot [21-May-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, there's a lot of waiting in this game [21-May-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which is a good opportunity to do planning :) [21-May-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HumanV2** joined.* [21-May-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yash137** left.* [21-May-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xman2006** joined.* [22-May-24 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***doomsdays** joined.* [22-May-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***-izzer-** joined.* [22-May-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vandalize** joined.* [22-May-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***csjlshirk** joined.* [22-May-24 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Protagonist** joined.* [22-May-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Test_bot40** joined.* [22-May-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***calishou** joined.* [22-May-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Glowblitz** joined.* [22-May-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaliDualGoddess** joined.* [22-May-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DezerT** left.* [22-May-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loading....** joined.* [22-May-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***absurddoctor** joined.* [22-May-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5d72574c71** left.* [22-May-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gareth08** joined.* [23-May-24 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd968697078** left.* [23-May-24 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: hi im new to this game [23-May-24 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: i assume my base uses some amount of the rations and drinking water each day, where can i see the usage? [23-May-24 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: also, how can i meet the requirement for 20 settlers? i can see i have 80 more pioneers than i need [23-May-24 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: you need a seperate habitation module for settlers [23-May-24 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: iit would be called settler habitation (HB2) [23-May-24 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: however, im new too and instead of building one of those [23-May-24 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: im building a Barracks (HBB) it provides housing for 75 pioneers and 75 settlers [23-May-24 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: cool thanks for the info [23-May-24 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: np good luck [23-May-24 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: are there other games like this? [23-May-24 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: something a bit faster than 8 hrs between actions [23-May-24 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: im not sure but im interested in that too [23-May-24 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: where around here i can get COGC Electronics? [23-May-24 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: is there anyway i can lock my interface i keep accidentally closing stuff lol [23-May-24 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: its 8hrs only at start.. :) later on will need hours to manage all [23-May-24 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: when expand a lot [23-May-24 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0e25ba5162** left.* [23-May-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: okay [23-May-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: does it say anywhere which buildings giive which resource [23-May-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Protagonist**: like BMP just say [host of materials] what is that [23-May-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: try: BUI BMP [23-May-24 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gareth08**: So I am following the tutorial, but when I make my production order it shows as having no works. even though in my base I have 200/200 Pioneers [23-May-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: can you share any screenshots? [23-May-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gareth08**: I think I figured it out, yeah. I just did not unload the other ship with the supplies [23-May-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gareth08**: Thanks though [23-May-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘ [23-May-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siedlerle** joined.* [23-May-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loading....** left.* [23-May-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mobaloony** joined.* [23-May-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: can i buy things at a different commodity exchange without a warehouse to house the goods [23-May-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, that will work. you'll end up with a new contract to pick up the materials (which you can do if you fly a ship there) [23-May-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: yeah, ive got a delivery contract sending me over to Moria [23-May-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: figured id grab some of the building supplies i need with the NCC I have [23-May-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sakow** left.* [23-May-24 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usereafbd5ff8f** left.* [23-May-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nickels1111** joined.* [23-May-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: ive been making a pretty penny, doing deliveries [23-May-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: space uber eats [23-May-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the nice thing about this game is that there are lots of pennies to be made [23-May-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: i heard lots of talk about how much fun the planning was in between events and i brushed it off [23-May-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: i spent hours planning two potential new bases, one in an entirely different energy ahha [23-May-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: *industry [23-May-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HumanV2**: is there a way to collonize a new planet? I just started the game a couple of days ago, but how long would that take if I can? [23-May-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: you can do it immediatly, but it often doesnt make sense [23-May-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: What are you producing on katoa? [23-May-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HumanV2**: Fuel ;( [23-May-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: thats good, i'll send you DM [23-May-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HumanV2**: thx [23-May-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's very expensive to colonize a new planet [23-May-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: im high off this shipping stuff [23-May-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: producing my own fuel and shipping goods is rapidly funding my expansion plans [23-May-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: my 2 week plan is quickly turning into my 3 day plan [23-May-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's the Prosperous Universe spirit :) [23-May-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leewa** joined.* [23-May-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **vandalize**: o7 [23-May-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: o/ [23-May-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: whens a good time to buy a third ship? [23-May-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdb0cab7917** left.* [23-May-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quadriad** joined.* [23-May-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [23-May-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: when you really need it [23-May-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: not being sarcasting, they're super expensive so it's probably best to try to wait as long as you can and expand your bases instead [23-May-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: ships won't make you money like new bases will, they'll just make it easier [23-May-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: upgrading your starter ships to WCB ships is the first step though, huge improvement over standard starter ship and fairly affordable [23-May-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: (4-600,000) [23-May-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: 400-600k? [23-May-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: for a starter ship upgrade, depending on what you decide to upgrade and who you buy it from yeah [23-May-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: shaitr offers a really great deal on those for new players [23-May-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: where can i see info about potential ship upgrades [23-May-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: BLU command will pull up blueprints, use BTF for testflight [23-May-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: parts for the ships are at the bottom after you design it [23-May-24 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Quadriad**: wtb 20x drinking water [23-May-24 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: I'd sell it to you but you are trial m8, so you will have to get from the market [23-May-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @tigerkhan i disagree with others here, Ships do infact make as much if not more than some bases. 40-50k/day for a 3000/1000 is ideal [23-May-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Quadriad**: ok, how should i get from the market? I don't see any ad on the local market [23-May-24 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: The local markets and contracts are all PRO/Basic only [23-May-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: You wont need pro or basic until past 3 months. unless you are looking to focus on trading and shipping, then you should look at pro or becoming a supporter [23-May-24 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: to be clear you can play completely free, only afew things are limited [23-May-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Quadriad**: i just started and there is a tutorial contract which asks for picking up DW, MCG and BSE at Benten - Katoa (UV-351a) [23-May-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Quadriad**: is there another to do this ? [23-May-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Factions give you contracts daily [23-May-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Quadriad**: i see, so i should just ignore this one ? [23-May-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: to fulfill that contract you would go to the CX and either buy the materials or pick them up for shipping depends on the contract [23-May-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: overall, if you arnt going to the CX already then dont worry about taking a Faction contract because tis not worth the fuel [23-May-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: but they are worth it ~60% of the time [23-May-24 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: you will get 3 per day and you can pick 1 iirc, i dont do them [23-May-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Quadriad**: ok, thank for the clarification! 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DM [24-May-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: ^on katoa [24-May-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf1219603a7** left.* [24-May-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kenny_Wong** joined.* [24-May-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***App1e** joined.* [24-May-24 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Takiyoshia** left.* [24-May-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FurAuran** left.* [24-May-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Niemann** joined.* [24-May-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThReeDise** left.* [24-May-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tark** left.* [24-May-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tark** joined.* [24-May-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Squared** joined.* [24-May-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Espresso8230** joined.* [24-May-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brosiah5** left.* [24-May-24 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user331b412b11** left.* [24-May-24 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: WTB SF @ 11.5 on Katoa , DM [25-May-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4639cc9da9** left.* [25-May-24 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1bcbe29442** left.* [25-May-24 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***405704482** left.* [25-May-24 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user05a61aeeff** left.* [25-May-24 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stan000** joined.* [25-May-24 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7742c1cf60** left.* [25-May-24 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazzaah** deleted this message.* [25-May-24 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazzaah** deleted this message.* [25-May-24 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying 10166 SF @ 12/sf. Ad on local market shortly [25-May-24 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rock123ra** left.* [25-May-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***uranium3416** joined.* [25-May-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0afcf08002** left.* [25-May-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Still buying SF @ 12 today, Katoa. 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Will be at 11.50 before we know it, otherwise! [30-May-24 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Wishful thinking [30-May-24 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't even see you in the top 200. [30-May-24 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: So? [30-May-24 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***csjlshirk** left.* [30-May-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2f83420723** left.* [30-May-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lux84** joined.* [30-May-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SolidGhost2100** left.* [30-May-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc4766dcf70** left.* [30-May-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lux84** left.* [30-May-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Test_bot40** left.* [30-May-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: WTB SF @ 11.80 today, send contract or DM [30-May-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb2bf810b8e** left.* [30-May-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useref1fe49ab5** left.* [30-May-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mcguiver** joined.* [30-May-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user320337e349** left.* [30-May-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It just means your impact on the market is small. It's wishful thinking to think that everyone else producing on Katoa is going to suddenly stun the market. [30-May-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Volume and grinding tight margins is where we all lived in the early days. [30-May-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Hazzaah will probably buy anything you can make. [30-May-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Hazzaah is a SF vacuum [30-May-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Bluntz -- if you really think 12.7 is the right price for SF, then you can buy at 12.6, relist at 12.7 and earn a profit [30-May-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (because thankfully there are no CX fees in this game) [30-May-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Private_Bryan85** left.* [30-May-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [30-May-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [30-May-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @bluntz SF price IS at 11.50, I cant keep an order open on BEN for 12 Buy because it fills too fast. selling pressure is stronger than buying pressure. You should be more focused on making more SF [30-May-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: 1 individual is buying above 12.2 strike, and he is using it all internally and only buys once a week. [30-May-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: besides that the volumes are limited. its on the charts [30-May-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: Hazzaah literally drinks fuel for sustenance. Listen to him. [30-May-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frentic** joined.* [31-May-24 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RitzelHax** joined.* [31-May-24 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: I don't watch the buy orders, only the sell orders. The buy orders get picked up by people looking to quickly sell and the sell orders get picked up by those looking to quickly buy at the cheapest listed price. I try to rally sellers to keep the prices above 12 rather than the common practice of listing 10 CIS below the previously listed sell order as that helps no one. If you listed your fuel at the same price as the previous listing, it will sell just as fast. [31-May-24 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Leguvan**: If I can sell all of my fuel 12 hours faster than you by lower my price by 0.10, I'm going to. Money sitting on the market is not money being used to reinvest into my company. Every one here has to decide what their time/money is worth. I'm not going to put myself into a queue to sell my fuel over 0.10 per unit. [31-May-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Glowblitz** left.* [31-May-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Once everyone does this, it drives the price down which is what you shouldn't want as a seller. It goes against your own interests and is bad business. Your fuel will not sit on the market for 12 hours, you know that is false. Fuel sells quickly and constantly as it is a necessity. [31-May-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fish9681** joined.* [31-May-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: welcome to capitalism? I mean.. this is simple market supply and demand stuff. It's okay for a fuel seller to undercut by .10 to jump a line. it doesn't impact the more patient sellers... especially in fuel. [31-May-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: But patience is for the larger companies. the small ones really need the cash flow over the revenue. [31-May-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: This is like ECON 101. [31-May-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoney [31-May-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Well said, Mr. Krabs [31-May-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lopin** joined.* [31-May-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Honestly, with how fast our ROIs are, for anyone starting up, almost better to sell fast and turn that money into expansions [31-May-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: ^ [31-May-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: I offer Pre-Purchase of 14 and 30days for SF, if you are looking for expansion feel free to hit me up [31-May-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Also, Buying SF @ 12 today on Katoa. send contract. [31-May-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Protagonist** left.* [31-May-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mobaloony** left.* [31-May-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm feeling rallied. Who wants my SF @12.7? [31-May-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Leguvan**: Why 12.7. We should be selling at 13.5. 12.7 is just bad business. [31-May-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [31-May-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [31-May-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: sounded funnier in my head. [31-May-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jooj1** joined.* [31-May-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jooj1**: BLUD [31-May-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: @Leguvan you're nice aren't you, I wish you health and happiness [31-May-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: SF has been above 12 all day, which I've been preaching. [31-May-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It's not because you've been preaching, trust me. [31-May-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: If you want a higher price, haul it. SF.AI1 and SF.NC1 [31-May-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: ^^^^^ that [31-May-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: You can fit 33000 in a cargo hold. So $2 adds $66k. I only list at the highest market. [31-May-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: *in a 2k/2k cargo hold [31-May-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Im about to have my first 2k/2k ship :D [31-May-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: mostly so I can get my own hydrogen [31-May-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Once you go 2k/2k you can't go back (except for speed, the 500's and smaller are SO FAST) [31-May-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'll probably keep the other one 500 [31-May-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I just need to be able to move more vol/wgt [31-May-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: Thinking about a DW plant on Etherwind, anyone have any experience with that? [31-May-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5deeddd6b4** left.* [31-May-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Riox** joined.* [31-May-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Looks like a lot of people are making DW on Ether [31-May-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb874a2dbd0** left.* [31-May-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Accidentally took a faction contract that's dragging me out to Ebisu G. I've got nothing else to do out there and so I've got 430t/460m3 of empty ship heading there, and 500/500 coming back. Reckon it'll be a six to seven day round trip. If you want to make use of that space on either direction let me know in the next 3 days or so. [31-May-24 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't think it hurts you really if you just blow it off. [31-May-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as far as i know, the only penalty is a rating hit with the faction, which you can easily make up from by completing future contracts [31-May-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leewa** left.* [01-Jun-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: if I could just scrap it that'd be ideal. Haven't been able to figure that out though, not that I've really looked to be fair, but it's just been sitting there for 37 days now [01-Jun-24 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xllc4** left.* [01-Jun-24 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Texinio** left.* [01-Jun-24 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Benzwerg1** joined.* [01-Jun-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nickels1111** left.* [01-Jun-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Buying 100 GAL on Katoa. put it on LM. Paying 65cis/unit [01-Jun-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: GAL.CI1 [01-Jun-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: you just need 100? [01-Jun-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Yep. for now. [01-Jun-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: haha [01-Jun-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: fulfilled by Coldfire.. thanks! [01-Jun-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh ok, i sent you a contract [01-Jun-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: oh, you don't have to gift that. Rejecting haha [01-Jun-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: :D [01-Jun-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I cut back my extractors to favor higher margin products so now I have to buy some GAL to supplement the production line. [01-Jun-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Every 10 or so days. [01-Jun-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I always have lots of GAL. When you need more send me a contract at CX bid price. [01-Jun-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF @ 12 today on Katoa [01-Jun-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BobDob** left.* [01-Jun-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: How long you want to wait [01-Jun-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tiggeryo** joined.* [01-Jun-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rowin** left.* [01-Jun-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HumanV2** left.* [01-Jun-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osgood_of_oz** joined.* [01-Jun-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zham1011** joined.* [01-Jun-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6be2a4107a** left.* [01-Jun-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Junetai** joined.* [01-Jun-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Niemann** left.* [01-Jun-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AVMortwake.ttv** left.* [01-Jun-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AT48** left.* [02-Jun-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm going to have a ship half full coming back from Benten Station in a day or so. Anyone need some shipping. Happy to haul it for free, It literally won't cost me anything. [02-Jun-24 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davidko** left.* [02-Jun-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Sold, I'll take you up on that [02-Jun-24 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExecutiveDankCookies** joined.* [02-Jun-24 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExecutiveDankCookies** left.* [02-Jun-24 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExecutiveDankCookies** joined.* [02-Jun-24 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yalaes** joined.* [02-Jun-24 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***stan000** left.* [02-Jun-24 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tiggeryo** left.* [02-Jun-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alma2k02** joined.* [02-Jun-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alma2k02** left.* [02-Jun-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alma2k02** joined.* [02-Jun-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DerCooleVonDem** joined.* [02-Jun-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I've still got room aboard. Heading back in less than 14h. If ya need something hauled from Benten Exchange, I've got a little room left. 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New here too. Just got my PRO license and already got some pretty awesome deals. People here are truly helpful. [03-Jun-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: hey, would like to thank Prodigus on the welcome contract sent. Thanks man [03-Jun-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: This community is beyond awesome. You guys rock, im glad im here. [03-Jun-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: <3 it really is a pretty fantastic group of people. I started playing this game cause I worked a *really* boring job and just wanted a browser based game to generate some fun spreadsheet learning projects, lol. Been around a year now (long after leaving that job) cause the community is just too good to leave [03-Jun-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Buying SF @ 12 today on katoa [03-Jun-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Drucker**: Welcome @ShadowBroker and @Frentic, hope that you enjoy the game. 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[04-Jun-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: spare* [04-Jun-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: what do you need ? [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap FEO and ALO for sale on Giedi Prime LM. [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: This is Katoa Heeler, wrong chat? [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ITrBe** joined.* [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No, many players on Katoa require FEO and ALO. Why should I wait unti someone happens to look at Giedi Prime LM? [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: fair just trying to be helpful [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: ive got so many world chats i mess up sometimes too [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: This is a manufacturing planet afterall. [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Was not a mistake. [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i mean, metallurgy would make more sense to advertise on, but we all gotaa get it somehow [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: What is your price on ALO ? [04-Jun-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap resouces are sometimes the only reason to make the trip instead of buying at the CX. [04-Jun-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 75 per unit [04-Jun-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: got 4000? [04-Jun-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 370 units available [04-Jun-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That is a 500t ship load. [04-Jun-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: kk, next time you looking to sell some i'd take 1k orders at 80 [04-Jun-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: just need to have a full load to make it worth it [04-Jun-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can't keep that much on hand. [04-Jun-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: i'll move to DM [04-Jun-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: by that logic, im looking for FEO and ALO why would I click through local markets on distant planets [04-Jun-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: whatever savings i could get i would burn through on fuel and time [04-Jun-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Suit yourself. [04-Jun-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @tigerkhan it just depends on volume. You are going to burn fuel and time on OREs unless you extract on the same planet you burn them. but thats not common. So you just have to run the math on it [04-Jun-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: @Hazzah Just have some stuff to unload and sell. If possible, wanted to get some of my stuff on the market asap so the sell orders and subsequent buy orders to restock go through by the time my ship would get there in a couple days. [04-Jun-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It's literally not a big deal, just a convenience thing. Only looking if ya got room that would otherwise go empty. [04-Jun-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: you will probably beat me there, sorry i couldnt help then [04-Jun-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMadTanneth** left.* [04-Jun-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JellyBiffle** left.* [04-Jun-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***There_was_an_attempt** left.* [04-Jun-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HeyBuddy10** left.* [05-Jun-24 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No worries. Someone else was kind enough to give me a hand. I'm heading there myself in a couple days. I'm going to have a lot of square footage left aboard, not so much free tonnage. But if you got light voluminous stuff to ship, I'd be happy to help out as you say you're heading there soon yourself. 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I have one getting upgraded but that CQM is $$$ [09-Jun-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tama1** joined.* [09-Jun-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BongWatersBibleBonkers** left.* [09-Jun-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i would go for WCB to i dont need to change the Crew Quarter but different player different needs [09-Jun-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ConeyLoMa** left.* [09-Jun-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IAmCalvin** left.* [09-Jun-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leko227** joined.* [09-Jun-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamegadget** joined.* [09-Jun-24 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jakezter444** joined.* [10-Jun-24 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4f7d92803f** left.* [10-Jun-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NorthStar.Aerospace** joined.* [10-Jun-24 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Strategic_Jaguar** joined.* [10-Jun-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Heading to Benten Station from Katoa. I got plenty of spare room. Anyone have cargo they need shipped to BEN? Not asking for any compensation, but feels wasteful to leave the space empty. [10-Jun-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i posted some shipping ads on the LM [10-Jun-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I got them. Just waiting on you to accept and I can leave right away. [10-Jun-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Or rather, requisition the shipments [10-Jun-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm, they should have auto-provisioned [10-Jun-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DerCooleVonDem** left.* [10-Jun-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sefin** joined.* [10-Jun-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** joined.* [10-Jun-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yalaes** left.* [10-Jun-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SniperJohn** left.* [10-Jun-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BananaBread222** left.* [10-Jun-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jynx_Comet** joined.* [10-Jun-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alma2k02** left.* [10-Jun-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ajwb** joined.* [10-Jun-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user34b5fd0b96** left.* [10-Jun-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***St4rx0r** joined.* [10-Jun-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jakezter444** left.* [10-Jun-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraaff592fdb** left.* [10-Jun-24 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jakezter444** joined.* [11-Jun-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkmasterflex** joined.* [11-Jun-24 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user02647b4b25** left.* [11-Jun-24 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1f40df0eab** left.* [11-Jun-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluntz** deleted this message.* [11-Jun-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Buying 376 BSE @ 1200 p/u [11-Jun-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: BSE.CI1 [11-Jun-24 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's a lot of BSE [11-Jun-24 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: I'm expanding production :) [11-Jun-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: whats the production? [11-Jun-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: SF [11-Jun-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MischiefMO** joined.* [11-Jun-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0bb174646f** left.* [11-Jun-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Teaplease** joined.* [11-Jun-24 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Freezerassasin**: I have ships running from Katoa to Benten Station on a regular basis that have 500 volume and 500 weight available for transport if anyone needs. [11-Jun-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cabullo** left.* [11-Jun-24 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Is there anyone wiling to sell about 300 H? [11-Jun-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can sell you 300, but it has to be at CX prices [11-Jun-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: CX Price is fine [11-Jun-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: send a contract please [11-Jun-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Sorry, nvm, I just remembered the reason I'm waiting to just order it off the CX since I don't have enough CIS on hand right now, sorry mate my bad [11-Jun-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all good :) [11-Jun-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abzanos** joined.* [11-Jun-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JelloThereMate** joined.* [11-Jun-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd99ca22657** left.* [11-Jun-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harvi** left.* [11-Jun-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***devils.fist** joined.* [11-Jun-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrennSades** joined.* [11-Jun-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KrayzieJ** joined.* [11-Jun-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MootRed** joined.* [11-Jun-24 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [11-Jun-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Abzanos**: Hello all. Any corporations currently recruiting? 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Brand new player here, would anyone have any useful insights to offer? [14-Jun-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/ - super helpful {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/ Wiki :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [14-Jun-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sa77ron**: Thanks! 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How long until my trips to Benten station come back down to 8 hours :'( [14-Jun-24 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Claribel** joined.* [14-Jun-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: when our orbits put us closer together [14-Jun-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: oh u understand that [14-Jun-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: sorry im very tired lol [14-Jun-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***turt1e** left.* [14-Jun-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it would be neat to have a system orbit simulator. there are a lot of orbital parameters in the FIO database, but i've not seen such a simulator [14-Jun-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreenHedge** left.* [14-Jun-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [14-Jun-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [15-Jun-24 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***robot2000000000** joined.* [15-Jun-24 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***james.dwagin** joined.* [15-Jun-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***james.dwagin** left.* [15-Jun-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***james.dwagin** joined.* [15-Jun-24 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BOTTrash** joined.* [15-Jun-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: I'll have to take a look at the FIO database, if there's enough orbital info in there I might be able to dust off an old university project to get some sort of estimate [15-Jun-24 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Or I could let the lazy side of me win and just wait and see [15-Jun-24 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flaming2204** joined.* [15-Jun-24 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KongZa** left.* [15-Jun-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Buying 100 GAL on LM at 70CIS/unit [15-Jun-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Factory_Gamer** joined.* [15-Jun-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeoCGA** deleted this message.* [15-Jun-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Got you. [15-Jun-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Thanks Cousin! [15-Jun-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***verrystupid** joined.* [15-Jun-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Javelin** left.* [15-Jun-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caladan** left.* [15-Jun-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stormsire12** left.* [15-Jun-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcamenal** left.* [15-Jun-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***npign42** joined.* [15-Jun-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hugolafo** left.* [15-Jun-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap ALO and FEO for sale on Giedi Prime LM. 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It was like 12.50 just a day or two ago, it’ll go back down. [20-Jun-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ksduke** left.* [20-Jun-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gingis_khan** left.* [20-Jun-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrennSades** left.* [20-Jun-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hiding** joined.* [20-Jun-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Because Hazzaah has been buying up all of th SF at Katoa so that he can sell at inflated prices at the CX. Just go look at the CX and see for yourself. [20-Jun-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That said, it is hard to get better prices at any of th other CX except Arcligh. 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[21-Jun-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you're in an emergency, i can sell you a little RAT/DW at CX prices [21-Jun-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (up to 500 units of each) [21-Jun-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user72b47d85d6** left.* [21-Jun-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: and if you're looking for a regular deal I'm happy to trade KOM [21-Jun-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kulala** joined.* [21-Jun-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***steave** joined.* [21-Jun-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lummair** left.* [21-Jun-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bebop_** joined.* [21-Jun-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user767e0b0c36** left.* [21-Jun-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dioblo12341** joined.* [21-Jun-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JelloThereMate** left.* [21-Jun-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Durlag** joined.* [21-Jun-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user936a721eaa** left.* [21-Jun-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tiuwilo** joined.* [21-Jun-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phocheeky** joined.* [22-Jun-24 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uzihead** left.* [22-Jun-24 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***danthememe** joined.* [22-Jun-24 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bidders** joined.* [22-Jun-24 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kokuyo** joined.* [22-Jun-24 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***B3Gaming** left.* [22-Jun-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: More looking for that weekly contract but can hit cx till then [22-Jun-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beerowulf** joined.* [22-Jun-24 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MilanDE** left.* [22-Jun-24 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yopbuster** left.* [22-Jun-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @blueheeler I didnt drain the ASK side of SF, i just was selling what inventory i had on BEN. i brought the price back down tyvm :P [22-Jun-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: almost all of the fuel i purchase gets used or shipped [22-Jun-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryuichiro** joined.* [22-Jun-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HotWings**: Guess I came in early enough in the morning sold off a sizeable chunk at 13.20 [22-Jun-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I wonder what would happen if someone fulfilled all of the demand at whatever price for SF and FF. Like I'm genuinely curious what would happen if the demand just all of a sudden disappeared haha. [22-Jun-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: people always have ships to fly. buy orders will quickly re-appear [22-Jun-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HotWings**: it would probably all get shipped out and what stayed would become so cheap that people would swing by and scoop it up to ship out [22-Jun-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HotWings**: until yeah, the demand comes back [22-Jun-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You're probably right. [22-Jun-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user365bfd888d** left.* [22-Jun-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lycake** joined.* [22-Jun-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peppee** joined.* [22-Jun-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Primordial.Being** left.* [22-Jun-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Is it possible to forbid your populace from using certain commodities like COF? [22-Jun-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Don't get it for them. Are producing and you don't want the workers consumimng their own product? [22-Jun-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Considering it, at least. But only if I can keep them from monching it all right up. [22-Jun-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: They work harder when they have COF so it balances out. [22-Jun-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Worker efficiency/happiness decreases the amount of time it takes to produce stuff. [22-Jun-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Or increases - when you statisfy their requirements. [22-Jun-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: I suppose I can't toggle the consumption then. [22-Jun-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: You can technically by moving the luxury item to the warehouse on the planet, they dont pull from the warehouse afaik [22-Jun-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6d4cddc6cf** left.* [22-Jun-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, but you'll probably end up making more COF in the long run if you just let them drink the stuff, depending on how many other buildings you have doing other stuff with pioneers. [22-Jun-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FallenDruchii** joined.* [22-Jun-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: That warehouse trick is a good idea, thanks. 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[23-Jun-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CousinEddie** deleted this message.* [23-Jun-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [23-Jun-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [23-Jun-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OriginalDad** joined.* [23-Jun-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marciosenica** joined.* [23-Jun-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MallerHawk** joined.* [23-Jun-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere7dec3cd7b** left.* [23-Jun-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ipman** joined.* [23-Jun-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8ba3733ab5** left.* [23-Jun-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sadbutcheeks** joined.* [23-Jun-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: What does the TCK in the inventories sort for exactly? [23-Jun-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: "Ticker" [23-Jun-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorts alphabetically [23-Jun-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (whereas "ABC" sorts alphabetically by the name) [23-Jun-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Ooohhh I see, thanks. 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[24-Jun-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I only just put amm on for 150.. it was just the 200 before [24-Jun-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: do you need some? [24-Jun-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: The only things I need atm are (padded) overalls and construction parts. [24-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the 200 CIS price it's a little annoying, since a few months ago i dismantled my AMM collectors on katoa, because buying at 100 was cheaper than making it myself [24-Jun-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but your listing at 150 is appreciated [24-Jun-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: how much PWO do you need? [24-Jun-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: tbh AMM is about double what I normally sell it at! [24-Jun-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Carnyx** left.* [24-Jun-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't see any recent big buys -- i wonder if some producers left the market [24-Jun-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: or selling direct on Lm's [24-Jun-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: prunplanner says i can produce AMM at about 33 CIS per unit on biogenesis. maybe that's where my next base will be [24-Jun-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Oh don't mind me, I just started like two days ago. It'll be a while before I can participate with any noticeable quantities. [24-Jun-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: Anyone have a little RAT and DW to sell me? Just like a days worth while my ship is being upgraded [24-Jun-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: 50 of each [24-Jun-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: ill pay a lil over CX [24-Jun-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @TIGEERKHAN - I will sell you 50 of each if you send me a contract. [24-Jun-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sorry, too many E's. [24-Jun-24 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Biogenesis is where I extract my amm [24-Jun-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i also posted some RAT and DW on the LM at "emergency out of supplies" pricing [24-Jun-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Any reccomended planets for H extraction? [24-Jun-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TIGERKHAN**: @BlueHeeler Sent [24-Jun-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lumm** joined.* [24-Jun-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @Prismfloof I think CB282-d is the popular choice in this region for H [24-Jun-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Harpina if you go to MOR space [24-Jun-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bwer123** left.* [24-Jun-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AddaHD** joined.* [25-Jun-24 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.Port** left.* [25-Jun-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KnottyBunny** joined.* [25-Jun-24 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peter_Turbo1** left.* [25-Jun-24 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***julenlele** joined.* [25-Jun-24 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thomasthegama** joined.* [25-Jun-24 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jebot** joined.* [25-Jun-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sho_M** joined.* [25-Jun-24 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user57cce7f1e2** left.* [25-Jun-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FarawayLoreley** joined.* [25-Jun-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wendigo22** left.* [25-Jun-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8ff3a00c6c** left.* [25-Jun-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5fcfd2ab3a** left.* [25-Jun-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user99c563b465** left.* [25-Jun-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4155b9e95** left.* [25-Jun-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SplitLogistix** joined.* [25-Jun-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spy_the_slayer** joined.* [25-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Buying GAL.CI1 for 55 each, Qty 100 on LM [25-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: save on transport costs with your excess :) [25-Jun-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: realized my price was a little low. 70 each now. [25-Jun-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Thanks! [25-Jun-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wumbus** left.* [25-Jun-24 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dimanutiv** joined.* [25-Jun-24 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FEIWILD** joined.* [26-Jun-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user49dc194348** left.* [26-Jun-24 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user411819550e** left.* [26-Jun-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9097b4ec95** left.* [26-Jun-24 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***phil_gorden** joined.* [26-Jun-24 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9720968aa** left.* [26-Jun-24 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxValu** joined.* [26-Jun-24 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VossBender** joined.* [26-Jun-24 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mccarthy1988** joined.* [26-Jun-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Hello citizens of Benten. for those who haven't noticed, the politics of the universe have changed a bit and some larger planets can now have multiple members of parliament. If you see KAWA in a candidates corp name on the ballot, just know that these are members of KAWAs unified governing team. We're working together to make sure upkeep is consistent and everyone has the workers they need, and to keep taxes cheap. If you see our names on ballots, our intention is to support the current governor who has already proven their competence and been working hard to maintain things. <3 [26-Jun-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wattad** joined.* [26-Jun-24 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: \o/ [26-Jun-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nanonator102** joined.* [26-Jun-24 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ProsperAndLiveLong**: VOTE Resource Extraction today! [26-Jun-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ProsperAndLiveLong**: @Ravick <3 [26-Jun-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: np [26-Jun-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cheese_worshiper** joined.* [26-Jun-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Selling AMM on Katoa @ 155, send DM [26-Jun-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FinalK** joined.* [26-Jun-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***K_Stihl** joined.* [26-Jun-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spaghett** joined.* [26-Jun-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pergho** joined.* [26-Jun-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spaghett** left.* [26-Jun-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaloup** joined.* [26-Jun-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***2gomax** joined.* [26-Jun-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zwixie** joined.* [26-Jun-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schettino_WGF** joined.* [26-Jun-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***maxteusz4** joined.* [26-Jun-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxMartie** joined.* [26-Jun-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trueo** joined.* [26-Jun-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mago.ali2016** left.* [26-Jun-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trueo** left.* [26-Jun-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trueo** joined.* [26-Jun-24 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***truthincash** left.* [26-Jun-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackIrisEbisu** joined.* [26-Jun-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VA4KAW** left.* [26-Jun-24 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delta_Devil-TTV** joined.* [26-Jun-24 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ducking1208** joined.* [26-Jun-24 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CBM_ANNA_007** joined.* [27-Jun-24 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GarAcT** joined.* [27-Jun-24 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yappoell** left.* [27-Jun-24 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrChouSaru** joined.* [27-Jun-24 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PlayerNull** joined.* [27-Jun-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user34cedcb378** left.* [27-Jun-24 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boommoon** joined.* [27-Jun-24 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Hi everyone. Just wanted to let you know that I put my name up for Parliment. As an overview of who I am: Independed corp on here, fairly new to PRUN but planning to be here long-term. My day job is in supply chain logistics and contract negotiations and yes, I play a business simulator for fun lol! I am a killer with spreadsheets and have a sound mind when it comes to risk-based decision making. Could be useful as a fresh set of eyes for the long standing members. Have fun for playing and thanks in advance if you support me. 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[27-Jun-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EndriuA** joined.* [27-Jun-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: It's a good question. Not to pander or anything but there needs to be a balance struck to support the community of Katoa. Currently we have been on a perfect streak of Manufacturing advertising which is great for the long-standing members of Katoa. But this is a good starting planet for fuel refining (where I also started) and I think that it would be a good community support to occasionally make sure our new players received some bonuses to their production lines. I'd like to see if the new government could support some kind of share; perhaps proportional to the top two industries. Other than those it really depends on population growth targets/needs. A lot to consider when you are talking about the whole planet's production line needs. [27-Jun-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The bonus for fuel production is minor compared to the bonus on manufacturing. We want the biggest return from the bonus. Manufacturing produces high value items that benefit the most from the bonus. Making fuel is nickle and dime. A fine way to start but it is not a money maker even with the bonus. I started making fuel and moved on to manufacturing, electronics and ship parts. [27-Jun-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: And in the beginning I voted for pioneers, extraction or fuel refining and the made the connection when it always went towards manufacturing. In the begining we actually one the vote at times - for fuel refining. [27-Jun-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Take a look at the local rules and see who provides the taxes for all the infrastructure consumables. [27-Jun-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Fuel refining 10 - Scientist Manufacturing 1000. Manufactured products are taxed significantly higher than fuel refining. Think about. [27-Jun-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @PsyNami - you want to govern then try and understand the economics of running a planet. [27-Jun-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am currently making a NOZ. That takes almost 7 hours. I paid 321.43 CIS manufacturing tax. [27-Jun-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Actually the NOZ takes closer to 9 hours. Fuel takes between 3 and 4 hours to make 100 unites and pays around 1.5 CIS in taxes. [27-Jun-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Yeah, as a new player there are a lot of aspects that I haven't been exposed to yet but feel confident that, once exposed to the data, I can perform in the role. I'm relying on my real-world ability/expertise in diagnosing and correcting supply chain issues as a reason for knowing that I have the critical thinking experience needed to assist in government management. [28-Jun-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***archid** left.* [28-Jun-24 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [28-Jun-24 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: FF.CI1 [28-Jun-24 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corbus**: Would it be fair to say that more support to fuel refining would equate to less support for manufacturing? [28-Jun-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, because there can be only 1 COGC program active at a time [28-Jun-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: activating the fuel refining program necessarily means we lose the bonuses from the manufacturing programs [28-Jun-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***samyatnz** left.* [28-Jun-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: spoiler: there may be a new fuel CoGC planet nearby in the next week... I dying disagree with your logic that starter planets should benefit starting players. but manufacturing is a solid and versatile start so I do believe that pivoting from fuel to manufacturing (or just COLIQ into a manufacturer start) is the way to go. fuel is a hard start and the margins aren't great until you expand to a 2-3 base setup. so I'm supporting manufacturing here, but still working on a new option for you stubborn refiners πŸ˜πŸ’š [28-Jun-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: *I don't disagree [28-Jun-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's exciting. something in-system? [28-Jun-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: Beyond the fact that the game suggests Katoa as a Fuel start, Manufacturing while boasting 7 products with sub 10day ROI, all of them are lower liquidity and volatility than fuel. a full REF base costs 784k with a 11day return if COGC is Fuel refinery, and thats selling it to BEN Buys. If running optimally and selling fuel at ANT or MOR, even selling into the bids the ROI better than all except 1 Manufacturing product. and the 1 thats better is low liquidity which is not ideal for new players. Considering this as well as the fact that the game calls for this to be the best fuel start in the game, I do believe the planet makes more sense to be Fuel Refinery., [28-Jun-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i do want to note that even without a fuel refining COGM, it's easy to be profitable on katoa making fuel. so new players here who start with fuel aren't going to struggle to expand to other planets/production lines [28-Jun-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: A fully build REF base costs 689k, with a 87k/day profit if COGC is fuel ref. Vrs the "Best" comparable which is MCG at 835k cost (20% slower to deploy) and a return of 94k/day [28-Jun-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @eminence this is a valid point, but for a new player ROI and liquidity are the key, and manufacturing products dont always do that. theres far greater chances to fail with Manufacturing, with arguably slower growth than with fuel refining. [28-Jun-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: 2 shipping ads up. total of 1.1 t/m for 20,000 CIS but I need it there asap <3 [28-Jun-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll be flying to gibson as soon as my ship gets back from giedi, but that probably won't be for half day. [28-Jun-24 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Juds** joined.* [28-Jun-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Secondly; I think this governance change to parliment is going to spike a lot of good discussion which I think will result in a better situation for most. [28-Jun-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: I'm excited about that at least :) [28-Jun-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at the end of the day, COGC programs come down to the entire planet voting [28-Jun-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hughesi** joined.* [28-Jun-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hughesi**: Heyy [28-Jun-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [28-Jun-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Each IRL week constitutes a fiscal year on here? [28-Jun-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rionan** left.* [28-Jun-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: each fiscal "period" (like "Last Period" from the FINIS command) is 1 week long, yeah [28-Jun-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I would definitely like to see some refining bonuses via bonuses here or a nearby planet. 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[29-Jun-24 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: filled ;) [29-Jun-24 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: <3 Thanks [29-Jun-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbb76948f16** left.* [29-Jun-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ogurchikkkk** joined.* [29-Jun-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krios1324** joined.* [29-Jun-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***morozik240606** left.* [29-Jun-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxad18** joined.* [29-Jun-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MertM** joined.* [29-Jun-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tedvord** joined.* [29-Jun-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Copper_Aston** joined.* [29-Jun-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiraisme** joined.* [29-Jun-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RockClimbingBoy** joined.* [29-Jun-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bakarium** left.* [29-Jun-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Novichok** joined.* [29-Jun-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EvreiProklyatiy** joined.* [29-Jun-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***THEYOUNGSTER** joined.* [29-Jun-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xeph** joined.* [29-Jun-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Xeph**: Hey all! New here so just figuring things out [29-Jun-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laguma20** joined.* [29-Jun-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Killer656520** joined.* [29-Jun-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reed0130** joined.* [29-Jun-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi welcome to katoa [29-Jun-24 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: What kind of start did you pick? 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[30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **linyu**: I mean actually the game [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It's basically a commerce simulator. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: You build and operate businesses on a galactic scale. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **linyu**: alright, I 'll see what I can do [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: if you need help, just post. People will guide you through it [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: There's a lot of information in this game, only pay attention to what you need. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiaryn**: I#ve just started and build the recommended buildings. I can only extract galerite rock. I can't refine only galerite rock. Do I need to buy hydrogen and ammonia on the marked to refine STL fuel? [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BirnLux** joined.* [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yes. You will need to have enough resources in your inventory to complete the SF recipe before you can refine it in your refinery. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: If you make a COL (collector), it will extract AMM from the atmosphere. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiaryn**: Would you recommend buying the other two ingredients. I would have expected I can refine at least one resource at the start of the game. :D [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: H (hydrogen) is not available as a resource on Katoa... you will need to buy it. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I get AMM and GAL from Katoa. I buy H on market. [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiaryn**: Ok, thank you. I'll try to get my first production chain running. :) [30-Jun-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Good Luck :) [30-Jun-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa720c3a1b** left.* [30-Jun-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userab6443870b** left.* [30-Jun-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Is there a system for taking on loans, issuing bonds or the like? I would actually like to tap into some liabilities at this point. 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[01-Jul-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: type them out as shown in blue [01-Jul-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: "SF.CI1" [01-Jul-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: case sensitive... lower case doesnt work [01-Jul-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: sf.ci1 [01-Jul-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF.CI1 [01-Jul-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Aahh thank. [01-Jul-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: How about RAT.CI1 [01-Jul-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: tada [01-Jul-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Thanks! 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[02-Jul-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can open a COM buffer with yourself to do that [02-Jul-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: And also those update when you reload the page so you don't have to re-type them in your personal COM buffer. [02-Jul-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bravo836** joined.* [03-Jul-24 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BOB_R-T** joined.* [03-Jul-24 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calstel** left.* [03-Jul-24 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Does anyone know what determines the content of faction contracts? As in, will I get different requests as I build different production lines? [03-Jul-24 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***psyhochyo** joined.* [03-Jul-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiaoxuexuezha** joined.* [03-Jul-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **psyhochyo**: Ρ‹ΠΏΡ€Π²ΡƒΠΊΠ½ΠΎ [03-Jul-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FreddyCe** joined.* [03-Jul-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: Yes and no @tuwilo, you will get some that align with your resource extraction or production but as you progress there are a lot of weird ones thrown in. One thing you can be certain of is they will most likely involve your HQ planet. So when you start having multiple bases the HQ planet is the one that will have the most faction contracts. 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The only thing I'm sure of is that spies have infiltrated my workforce. Soon they will want to form a union. [03-Jul-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you might be able to suppress the union effort if you supply copious amounts of ALE or GIN [03-Jul-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ic1_2** joined.* [03-Jul-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ic1_2**: hi! i'm new here... so ugh can anyone tell me how to start? [03-Jul-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome. have you checked out the tutorial videos yet? [03-Jul-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ic1_2**: No, not yet! It would be great if you tell me where can i watch it [03-Jul-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you on mobile or desktop? [03-Jul-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ic1_2**: desktop [03-Jul-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok great. in the top bar in the game, hover over "SCRN" (for "screens") and then click "Start" and in there you should find some links to help videos [03-Jul-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ic1_2**: ok thank you! [03-Jul-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or click on the "NEW BFR" button in the bottom left, and enter the "HELP" command. you should then see links to some good getting started info [03-Jul-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoftwareLlama** joined.* [03-Jul-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Katoa is in need of some infrastructure upgrades. I can source most of the materials from within KAWA, but there are occasionally some things we might need to buy. I've created a chat group (COMG GovernmentContractors) for coordinating this, probably using just a lowest bidder auction. [03-Jul-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Right now, if you are interested in selling any number of HAB as either a one-time deal or a recurring arrangement, please join the chat and let me know :) [03-Jul-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do we need an invite to the channel, or can we just join somehow? [03-Jul-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I actually don't know, I haven't used group chats like this before... try just typing what's in those parenthesis into a buffer and see if it works. If not I'll send an invite [03-Jul-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: when i try that it just says "Click the button below to create this group channel" [03-Jul-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: gotcha. I added you. I guess people will have to ping me here or on discord for that invite [03-Jul-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7db9c6b6cb** left.* [03-Jul-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: I might not have too much to contribute but hit me up. I do faction contracts all the time anyway. 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So muscle memory is Prom, Katoa, and Montem for CXs (ANT wasn't around last uni), so its even easier to think the right CX, wrong location [05-Jul-24 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grade2infernalvisitor** joined.* [05-Jul-24 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delta_Devil-TTV** left.* [05-Jul-24 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boommoon** left.* [05-Jul-24 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ducking1208** left.* [05-Jul-24 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dev3l** joined.* [05-Jul-24 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rosha320neo** joined.* [05-Jul-24 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jedi313** joined.* [05-Jul-24 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **rosha320neo**: Question [05-Jul-24 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **rosha320neo**: if I fly a ship to benten station's orbit will I be able to unload stuff onto it [05-Jul-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***K_Stihl** left.* [05-Jul-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CBM_ANNA_007** left.* [05-Jul-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HoldMySock** left.* [05-Jul-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tiktokfinancialadvisor** left.* [05-Jul-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: If you have a warehouse there. [05-Jul-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PsyNami**: It costs 100 CIS per week per unit. pretty cheap. [05-Jul-24 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dj01.arnold** joined.* [05-Jul-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeEliteToe** joined.* [05-Jul-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Selling SF @ 12.0. Heading out of town in about 20hrs, don't have time to get to CX. [05-Jul-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thanks Cousin... [05-Jul-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Much obliged [05-Jul-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarthBinks** left.* [05-Jul-24 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Already sold out, I suppose. [05-Jul-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I did, but I have another 6k done in 16hrs if youre interested. [05-Jul-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: scratch that, 8k in 19hrs [05-Jul-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cal09** joined.* [05-Jul-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaloup** left.* [05-Jul-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazzaah** deleted this message.* [05-Jul-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flyibg_piggy** joined.* [05-Jul-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flyibg_piggy**: idk what to do [05-Jul-24 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome. have you seen some of the tutorials? [05-Jul-24 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flyibg_piggy**: yeah but its confusing [05-Jul-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, it can be. is there a specific question we can help with? [05-Jul-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flyibg_piggy**: I deleted the tab for building things and I don't know how to get it back [05-Jul-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, start by clicking the "NEW BFR" (new buffer) command in the bottom-left, and then enter the "BS" command [05-Jul-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this will pop up a list of your bases. there will be only one right now. click the yellow "View Base" button on the row for Katoa [05-Jul-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: from here you can open your base's inventory, production lines, or construct new buildings [05-Jul-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user592b4a5a02** left.* [05-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Babbesupreme** joined.* [05-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemec** joined.* [05-Jul-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Babbesupreme** left.* [05-Jul-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HashSlash** joined.* [05-Jul-24 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayDaGrappla** joined.* [06-Jul-24 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***istallri** joined.* [06-Jul-24 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: heya guys [06-Jul-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: so damn I'm lost haha [06-Jul-24 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: It's not all that bad, just the UI takes a bit of getting used to. [06-Jul-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: yeah for sure, just trading and all it is like complex haha [06-Jul-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: so like I've placed a few orders that are now "fullfilled" but I can only get the stuff once my ship gets there right? [06-Jul-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yes. [06-Jul-24 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: thanks! I'm trying to get how to make fuel, started like an hour ago haha [06-Jul-24 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rozerick** joined.* [06-Jul-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: It's a little more involved since you need settlers to work the refineries. Those have different daily needs than pioneers. [06-Jul-24 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: yeah for now I have an extractor and a refinery, trying to also extract amonia and understand how to buy and cargo stuff ^^ [06-Jul-24 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Collector harvests Ammonia from Katoa's atmosphere. [06-Jul-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: yup, I'm byuing building ressources to build one, just need my ship to arrive ^^ [06-Jul-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BakerBoy02** joined.* [06-Jul-24 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dylan9866** joined.* [06-Jul-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: just started up, is it worth buying the stuff to build a collector as well as my extractor for fuel production? otherwise I seem to have to buy ammonia and Hydrogen [06-Jul-24 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can't collect hydrogen here on katoa, so you'll have to get it or buy it elsewhere [06-Jul-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: ah okay thanks [06-Jul-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in the long term, you'll probably also want to buy your ammonia. but at current prices for AMM.CI1 i think it'll be cheaper for you to collect it yourself on katoa [06-Jul-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: according to prunplanner, i can extract 1 unit of AMM for about 107 CIS, which is lower than the current market price of 150 [06-Jul-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so for now, i'd say go for it and collect your AMM locally. once your production gets bigger, you'll want to use that space in your base for something more profitable, but for now a collector is fine [06-Jul-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: how much AMM do you need? I am going to put some sells up on LM [06-Jul-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: Well I literally just started so I don't know haha, but I'm only using 1 per 16h cycle for SF by the looks of it and I have 5 [06-Jul-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Let me see if I can send you a contract [06-Jul-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: ok sent you contract for 100 for 1cis each [06-Jul-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: to get you started [06-Jul-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: oh wow ok [06-Jul-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: thank you [06-Jul-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: let me figure out how spaceflight works I guess :D [06-Jul-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: you will collect it here on Katoa. So no ships needed [06-Jul-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: open the CONT wind for contracts [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: ohh sad times I'm on the free licence [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: *window [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: so you can't accept? [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: no [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: poops [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: apparently only PRO users can do custom contracts [06-Jul-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: no worries haha [06-Jul-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i really wish free players could accept direct contracts :( [06-Jul-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: you can pick up LM contracts? [06-Jul-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: If I still enjoy producing fuel in the 96 hours of ammonia I have left I'll get a licence and hit you up haha [06-Jul-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: Whats LM? [06-Jul-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: local market? [06-Jul-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: local market [06-Jul-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I can put the contract there.. only issue is it is open for everyone and you have to be quick! :P [06-Jul-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: ill check [06-Jul-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: let me know when you have tab open and I'll post it [06-Jul-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: apparently local markets are pro too [06-Jul-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: dang... guess you are gong to have to collect it yourself from the atmosphere then :( [06-Jul-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: thats ok, i think (based on dodgy noob maths) buying everything except galerite should cost 600/700 ish and I can make 100 SF at 15. So plenty of profit [06-Jul-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Are you needing any AMM @eminence32? I have 2k [06-Jul-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, i'll take 1000 at the lowest price you can do :) [06-Jul-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: nice [06-Jul-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: sure [06-Jul-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: 80k [06-Jul-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: amazing price [06-Jul-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: many thanks [06-Jul-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: no worries. rest will go on lm [06-Jul-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: though you nearly got charged 8mill!! /facepalm :P [06-Jul-24 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh don't worry, my bank balance wouldn't have let that contract go through ;) [06-Jul-24 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: same! :P [06-Jul-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordLeedle** joined.* [06-Jul-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, since we're chatting, let me also say "welcome to aratora" [06-Jul-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i hope you enjoy your stay and our big heavy rocks [06-Jul-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: Does my production run if I close the game? I'm assuming it does [06-Jul-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, everything runs when your close the browser [06-Jul-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: OK thanks [06-Jul-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: lucky I've got helpful neighbours :) [06-Jul-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: thank.. got my first 400 BTS today :D [06-Jul-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have etherwind and asbestos for the heavy rocks! :P [06-Jul-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahhh [06-Jul-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, then enjoy your heavy metal then :) [06-Jul-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Been eyeing your planet for months now though! :P [06-Jul-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: but these permits get very afab expensive the more you need! :'( [06-Jul-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***newmagic22** joined.* [06-Jul-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: aye [06-Jul-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, i still have room on aratora -- if i collect some BTS, would you be interested in buying it? [06-Jul-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: lol I only have 1 AML on umbra, so my 400 bts will take about 17 days to use up. my 10 rigs on Aratora have a 6 day cycle at the mo :P [06-Jul-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: you can get about 600/bts [06-Jul-24 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok :) [06-Jul-24 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AddaHD** left.* [06-Jul-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: so I have the contract to Pick up 0 / 20 units of Drinking Water at Benten - Katoa (UV-351a), I clicked on the FULLFILLED [06-Jul-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: and now, what do I do? ^^ [06-Jul-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: I don't see any ressources in my ship cargo, I don't get it [06-Jul-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: in base storage [06-Jul-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: directly, oooh [06-Jul-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **istallri**: and so what is the provisionning? should I bring that many FTL fuel? just land? :) [06-Jul-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb567dbabc1** left.* [06-Jul-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Those contracts are generally deducted directly from your base. [06-Jul-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: I've been confused by the nature of the contents though, it seems like anything I have produced before is on the table for being rolled as a contract objective. [06-Jul-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kebabini** joined.* [06-Jul-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MidnightRabbit** left.* [06-Jul-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***roy7** left.* [06-Jul-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordLeedle** left.* [06-Jul-24 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cal09** left.* [06-Jul-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d27df68ec** left.* [06-Jul-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cal09** joined.* [06-Jul-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caylus** left.* [06-Jul-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***King_Frosty18** left.* [06-Jul-24 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Serpentine0_** joined.* [07-Jul-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sholtor** joined.* [07-Jul-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Anyone willing to do a trade for about 1000 H, or if able possibly a recurring 6-700 H per week? 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I haven't really got a concept of how much money is worth yet [08-Jul-24 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***panda022222** left.* [08-Jul-24 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theonlyrealhero** joined.* [08-Jul-24 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: I personally use PrunPlanner to check all of that. What I've found here on Katoa is to run one GAL extractor for every STL fuel refinery, and that usually nets me a 40-50% profit over gross. [08-Jul-24 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Currently I have 4 ref and 4 ext, with an estimated gross/profit of 51,149.20/29,343.21 CIS, if that gives any indication [08-Jul-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Just now realizing these numbers are somewhat off because I had the CX set as NC1, not CI1 [08-Jul-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pizzmaan** left.* [08-Jul-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @dylan @Prismfloof a full 13 REF base will yeild an ~80k/day profit (You only want REFineries, focus on 1 product for your first base) [08-Jul-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: If you have Pro and would like to speed up your growth, I offer prepayment of fuel. it allows you to scale faster. 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[09-Jul-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not built in to the game. you can only post shipping ads to ask something specific to be shipped [09-Jul-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's no way to say "i have free space available" except to announce it in chat or discord channels [09-Jul-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Shucks, but thanks. 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I currently have a collector, an extractor, a refinery and a Rig! Thanks in advance for any tips :) [10-Jul-24 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: I used the fuel refining start, and transitioned to manufacturing as fast as I could for that sweet sweet COGC bonus [10-Jul-24 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: how much does that kinda transition cost? O.o [10-Jul-24 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kegbelly** left.* [10-Jul-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hikikomori98** left.* [10-Jul-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dylan9866**: I'm a complete noob but producing SF seems profitable and low effort [10-Jul-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf84bc35e0** left.* [10-Jul-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ywbyeol** joined.* [10-Jul-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Wattad**: "rest.fnar.net/csv/prices" not working ? 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The corp I'm in is on there and we're pretty active all around the Benten area, as are some otheer great groups [10-Jul-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hazzaah**: @wattad you need to update the link, simply add a / to the end of the URL and it will force a refresh (assuming you are using Gsheets) [10-Jul-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user492eddb3d8** left.* [10-Jul-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BheChekNi** joined.* [10-Jul-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user883f385231** left.* [10-Jul-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uristohkrat** joined.* [10-Jul-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahmed3bkr** joined.* [10-Jul-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Silas** left.* [10-Jul-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FeatheredSerpent** joined.* [10-Jul-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user61c021addb** left.* [10-Jul-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user467652f96c** left.* [10-Jul-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xXWiningBanksXx** joined.* [10-Jul-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***makana** joined.* [10-Jul-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***koalakiller** joined.* [10-Jul-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talon81** joined.* [10-Jul-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***makana** left.* [10-Jul-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***makana** joined.* [10-Jul-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***protocol3** joined.* [10-Jul-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cdawg26** joined.* [11-Jul-24 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: For Fuel Engi, I'd say just calculate the margin for each recipe, and focus on the most profitable one. 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With elections ending in less than a day, I do want to make it clear that I would prefer to continue doing this job with the help of my corpmates in KAWA. Support for any Kawa menbers running for parliament would be greatly appreciated and help us keep things simple. This goes for all planets that KAWA has already been competently governing before this update. We plan to keep doing everthing we can to support everyone in the Castilo Ito region. If you have any concerns we would appreciate it if you first reach out and communicate with us instead of just running for parliament <3 [11-Jul-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PekoniPappa** left.* [11-Jul-24 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: to implement this in practice, this likely means that some of us who voted for CptColeslaw should change their votes to other KAWA-affiliated candidates (but making sure that CptColeslaw still has the most votes) [11-Jul-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bravo836** left.* [11-Jul-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnderEz** joined.* [11-Jul-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlavorBalls** left.* [11-Jul-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TemptingApple42** left.* [11-Jul-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: not sure if correct channel, but would anyone on Katoa be willing to sell me 12x MCG for a reasonable price? [11-Jul-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, can you place an LM ad? [11-Jul-24 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: I'm not able to, I'm a noob [11-Jul-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you on a free account or pro account? [11-Jul-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: free, like started 2 days ago [11-Jul-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vvblackmagic** left.* [11-Jul-24 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok i'm not sure if you can accept contracts or not. but i just sent you one [11-Jul-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: I see it, but can't accept it. Give me a minute and I'll just do 1 month. [11-Jul-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: awesome, thanks! [11-Jul-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: good luck with whatever you're building :) [11-Jul-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: Thanks, I'll prolly be broke in a week or two :) [11-Jul-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you gotta spend money to make money [11-Jul-24 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: I've spent down to 1205 from my starting package, we'll see if I did it smart enough or not soon [11-Jul-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what did you build for production buildings? [11-Jul-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: 2 farms, foor processor, incinerator, rig, 2 habitats [11-Jul-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: food* processor [11-Jul-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, a little unconventional for katoa, i like it [11-Jul-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: I'm shooting for a mix of self-sufficiency, heading toward SF production [11-Jul-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LlamaGames** left.* [11-Jul-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i did pretty much the same start [11-Jul-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: my next plan is a base on Umbra after I get a couple more rigs and farms [13-Jul-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ocor** joined.* [13-Jul-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***-izzer-** left.* [13-Jul-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ciferkin** joined.* [13-Jul-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera27e8e7003** left.* [13-Jul-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***camodano22** left.* [13-Jul-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dj01.arnold** left.* [13-Jul-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nymestro** left.* [13-Jul-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Submersus** left.* [13-Jul-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninten** joined.* [13-Jul-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Critic** joined.* [13-Jul-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4c1ecd5b2a** left.* [13-Jul-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TemujinsHorse** joined.* [13-Jul-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I love the PPU addition to the LM [13-Jul-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lufer** left.* [13-Jul-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: I just assumed it was an update to PMMG, nice to see they're adding QoL stuff to base APEX [13-Jul-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Also, what's this notif I got about some motion that got passed? It mentions a contribution to the local government and is that like something we have to contribute to or what's the deal with that? [13-Jul-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flyibg_piggy** left.* [13-Jul-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: It’s the parliament and governor that can choose to contribute [13-Jul-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: if you want to contribute to the planet send a message to anyone on the parliament [13-Jul-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: Greetings my fellow Katoans! I find myself with a mostly empty ship doing a round trip BEN -> Katoa -> BEN, departing in ~9.5 hours. If you'd like to reserve some cargo space, shoot me a contract! Rookie ship, so ~400t/400m3 will be available. Since I'm taking the trip anyway, name your own price. :) First come, first served. [13-Jul-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prismfloof**: Is there any benefit to contributing? Not like any sort of recognition or anything like that, but like infrastructure and such. I guess what I'm asking is what is it used for [13-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemec** left.* [13-Jul-24 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: looking to buy 6 TRU, ad on LM [13-Jul-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thelegend73135** joined.* [13-Jul-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: So I know that I planned to cut taxes again, but an increase in higher tier populations has inflated costs by a lot. We're riding the line pretty close, loss of less than 100k CIS/wk at this point, but still a loss. so it's possible I might eventually need to increase rates for ENG/SCI a bit to break even (break even at KAWA governing rates being about 30% less than CX cost). Here is the sheet that I'm using to track expenses on the planets I govern, I'm making this public so that everyone can see exactly what money is being spent on and at what rates. This sheet shows the KAWA Governing Team's prices for all upkeep materials, these are the prices that we are trying to balance taxes around. The sheet also shows all upkeep/upgrade/program expenses using these rates. I will be reimbursing myself for upkeep at 80% of these prices and leaving anything that is left (if any) in the government coffers for upgrading infrastructure (we need some upgrades). [13-Jul-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yFBe1zKYyUYXSNkfpwr4Z2Kj__wrc5vdbGws6Rc-xmQ/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yFBe1zKYyUYXSNkfpwr4Z2Kj__wrc5vdbGws6Rc-xmQ/edit?usp=sharing KAWA-Gov-accounting KAWA 1,2 Ticker,KAWA-Price AAR,17940 BID,38950 BND,304 BSC,23750 CCD,43700 CD,14060 COF,475 DEC,12000 DIS,8170 DW,48 EDC,12160 FOD,299 GL,239 HD,3000 HOG,4655 IDC,17670 KOM,429 MCG,25 MHP,3040 OFF,68 OLF,817 PE,6 PFE,399 PK,950 POW,5320 RAD,7800 RAT,76 REA,314 RED,37050 SDR,55100 SEQ,9120 SOI,37... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gwucaVlujjcwPD9GSbyxXjlvBvYZVUJHrOvtulwO78k/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyIibUxJ4c2EQHqpNJjIX6NpT9EFpBHs-8VPf7EePhbsSXYDKYZgnz2ChMS38cDJwmAXnXfZJCAWu0Jh35hDm81MHuAGx-s-aA6sAYYPfBSeAsVry_qu%3Dw1200-h630-p [13-Jul-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***espeon25** joined.* [13-Jul-24 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nutcase** joined.* [13-Jul-24 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pbsim** joined.* [14-Jul-24 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user93fa2adf1d** left.* [14-Jul-24 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***slugger12** joined.* [14-Jul-24 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Matiamo** joined.* [14-Jul-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoltzJore** joined.* [14-Jul-24 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rozerick** left.* [14-Jul-24 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5f1361ed8d** left.* [14-Jul-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lucius_1248** left.* [14-Jul-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LimeTime** joined.* [14-Jul-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lxgit** joined.* [14-Jul-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***newmagic22** left.* [14-Jul-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordi2006** joined.* [14-Jul-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xXWiningBanksXx** left.* [14-Jul-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xXWiningBanksXx** joined.* [14-Jul-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soulbaine** joined.* [14-Jul-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lucifer57397** joined.* [14-Jul-24 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user38fdf6b354** left.* [15-Jul-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user02f0424d71** left.* [15-Jul-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cymrak** joined.* [15-Jul-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldMiner** joined.* [15-Jul-24 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayDaGrappla** left.* [15-Jul-24 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monses** joined.* [15-Jul-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jebthesecondofengland** left.* [15-Jul-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZeldaThornley** joined.* [15-Jul-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowMassterTTV** left.* [15-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jack_Shaftoe** left.* [15-Jul-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kebabini** left.* [15-Jul-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arguin** left.* [15-Jul-24 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***himan124** joined.* [15-Jul-24 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZephyrZ** joined.* [15-Jul-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blitzstern** left.* [15-Jul-24 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rrzampieri** left.* [16-Jul-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc86c7e6e7a** left.* [16-Jul-24 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pizzaduddes** joined.* [16-Jul-24 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: :) [16-Jul-24 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GoldMiner**: :( [16-Jul-24 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sTORMhasu** joined.* [16-Jul-24 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdauf** left.* [16-Jul-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SarnianSon** joined.* [16-Jul-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***theonlyrealhero** left.* [16-Jul-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StalowyJez** joined.* [16-Jul-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tlewand** joined.* [16-Jul-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Romel822** joined.* [16-Jul-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jiaro** joined.* [16-Jul-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monses** left.* [16-Jul-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monses** joined.* [16-Jul-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simon2960** left.* [16-Jul-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snorrsen** left.* [16-Jul-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MassivePersonalError** joined.* [16-Jul-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Red_Poljus** joined.* [16-Jul-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mirrored** joined.* [16-Jul-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peco_Cherez** left.* [16-Jul-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***buslik** joined.* [16-Jul-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hades-Wraith-** left.* [16-Jul-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Look at all these new faces. Welcome welcome! [16-Jul-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***4Nocturnals** joined.* [16-Jul-24 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: new faces = new people to sell to! [17-Jul-24 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tlewand**: i'm just one of those new faces.. Hi :) [17-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***istallri** left.* [17-Jul-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Killer656520** joined.* [17-Jul-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PrincessFabio** left.* [17-Jul-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc7af893cbf** left.* [17-Jul-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirHardbass** joined.* [17-Jul-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: How ya settling in on Katoa? Need any help getting started? [17-Jul-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7561bd3bc2** left.* [17-Jul-24 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: any experienced players wanna dm me really quick, i need to ask for advice on base building [17-Jul-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i encourage you to ask publicly here in chat, so many can benefit from the discussion [17-Jul-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: I recommend setting up a spreadsheet including the cost of materials, the amount of materials you need per blueprint, and the population requirements/capacity. Then you can relatively easily plan your constructions and repairs. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiritwo** joined.* [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kiritwo**: Hello I am new here [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kiritwo**: happy to be here [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Corbus**: Not sure if it is appropriate, but I have a powerful belief that the phrase "What can I do for you?" holds special significance above and beyond what a bank teller may say to you when you visit. That being said, "What can I do for you?" [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kiritwo**: just wondering if anyone has any tips for a new FTL Fuel startup like my little shop [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Might be a bit of a slow start at first. The bonus the planet gets is for manufacturing buildings, and a refinery uses tier 2 pops which complicate things a bit. You can ignore them for a while and you won't take a huge hit to efficiency. But that will be a consideration. I would however recommend producing STL fuel, not FTL fuel. You can build 2 extractors, 2 refineries, and 2 HB1s to house your pops. Then focus on getting a third refinery up. You can net decent profit off of that setup and just scale as you go. Trick is to produce your own Galerite on Katoa. It's heavy, and right now, it's also pretty expensive on the exchange. Not sure how familiar you already are with the game. But if you know what luxury goods are, I would recommend only using Padded Overalls (PWO) for the first few weeks, and then add in COF into the mix. With 3 refineries and 2 extractors you're looking at around 9000 CIS/d in profits with no tier 2 pops and 3 HB1s(300 Tier 1 pops). [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It can be a little overwhelming at first. But you come into it pretty quickly. At least that was my experience. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I can give you a hand getting off the ground to make the first couple weeks a bit easier. Send you some consumables so you don't have to worry about going to the exchange for at least a few days to restock. And if you decide the fuel refining is a bit too much of a slow start, you can just reset your game and start fresh with a new company. Manufacturing on Katoa is good. You can make good profits early on with that. It can be a little input heavy in that you'll be going back and forth to and from the CX not infrequently to refill your factories. But things get rolling pretty quick. Alternatively you can also restart on promitor as an agricultural company. Put down a couple rigs for water, a couple farmsteads and a food processor and you'll be completely self sufficient on food, drinking water, and all of your inputs, which is convenient and quite beginner friendly. Just giving you options. Ultimately, just have fun, enjoy the game. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aislin_Heart** left.* [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: Fuel refining start - no profits, no fun. If I wasn't so stubborn, I'd have abandoned the game by now :D [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Haha. Yeah, I bet it's a hassle. 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[19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: when i did my fuel refining start, selling SF.CI1 at 10.8 was considered a good price. now 12.8 is very doable. so hopefully fuel refining these days is easier for new players [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Price will go up for many reason though. If it's increased demand, you're in luck and can make more money. If it's from inflated input material costs, that's rough [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: fuel is a lower margin than many industries, but I higher volume that most. So anything you can do to reduce your operating costs will help you a lot. Relying on the market for inputs can be scary for fuel [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user33249d2681** left.* [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah. but you can get GAL and AMM here on katoa at reasonable enough quantities for a 1-base refining company [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: anyway, i'm just saying: to all the new fuel refiners on katoa, i see you grinding out the SF, keep at it [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xEnkorex** joined.* [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF is definitely a grind. Getting to a point where you can upgrade ships to help transport materials and/or fuel to the CX makes the paydays a lot better. It's definitely easier to manage finances when the income comes in 400k lumps instead of 40k lumps. [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: buying H and collecting mats here, you kinda max out at about 8500SF/day [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 12COL, 10EXT, 10 REF [19-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kiritwo**: Wanting to buy some BSE to start an extractor would be happy to make a deal with someone seeing as I'm still new [19-Jul-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how many BSE do you need? [19-Jul-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kiritwo**: around 10 max [19-Jul-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, i can provide that. do you have a PRO license to be able to accept contracts? [19-Jul-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldmanSacchs** left.* [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LevelOneHuman**: looking for shipping contracts - have 2 empty ships [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OptimizedFunction** joined.* [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Don't have anything to run between Katoa and Ben. But if you're okay flying out to Moria station from Benten station, I can set you up with shipping contracts there and back. [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Actually, think I'd be able to fill your boat to Benten station from Katoa as well. So basically, Katoa to Benten, Benten to Moria, Moria back to Benten. [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LevelOneHuman**: Sure I can do that - atm my ships will be sitting idle for a couple days :) [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Okay. Let me put together the contracts. Keep an eye on your contracts list. [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LevelOneHuman**: cheers, thank you [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Might need like 20 minutes. Have something I need to finish up here [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LevelOneHuman**: no worries I'll check back [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oh. And you do have Pro, right? [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LevelOneHuman**: I do yes [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Perfect [19-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tyriel** joined.* [19-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: uhm how can i like add a buffer to my screen (not have it float around)? [19-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: split one that exists [19-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: mouse over the top right corner, and chose the vertical or horizontal line to decide which way you want to split it [19-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ooo i found it, thanks! 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[22-Jul-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: np [22-Jul-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordi2006** left.* [23-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***THE_420_KING** left.* [23-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kiritwo**: I have an order for Sodium borohydride on the market if anyone's able to fill it. (I'm willing to take it down and re negotiate a price if needed [23-Jul-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShaunCena** joined.* [23-Jul-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Valar13** joined.* [23-Jul-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSlothBoi** joined.* [23-Jul-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nanozocker** joined.* [23-Jul-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KryoStatic** joined.* [23-Jul-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZeldaThornley** left.* [23-Jul-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zham1011** left.* [23-Jul-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reithan** left.* [23-Jul-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nolanrameln** joined.* [23-Jul-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***himan124** left.* [23-Jul-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***espeon25** left.* [23-Jul-24 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZephyrZ** left.* [23-Jul-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: guys [23-Jul-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: 70% happiness??!?!?!?! [23-Jul-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: impressive. a little too high maybe? [23-Jul-24 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: Damn, they're happier than I am! [23-Jul-24 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah a little too high, trying to balance new high tier pops still. honestly might be cheaper to just use programs... [23-Jul-24 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: there's like 10k unemployed pioneers though, no need to have it above 70 [23-Jul-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user667e5d6693** left.* [24-Jul-24 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lizhxro** joined.* [24-Jul-24 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tertere** joined.* [24-Jul-24 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tertere** left.* [24-Jul-24 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StalowyJez** left.* [24-Jul-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jiaro** left.* [24-Jul-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mehlson** joined.* [24-Jul-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***T3eXiSs** joined.* [24-Jul-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daark75** joined.* [24-Jul-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useref3a744a58** left.* [24-Jul-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CoffeeTerror326** joined.* [26-Jul-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maltar125** left.* [26-Jul-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cheua** left.* [26-Jul-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user20693a599a** left.* [26-Jul-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idemfromidemland** joined.* [26-Jul-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***endgamechanger** joined.* [26-Jul-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***girmt** left.* [26-Jul-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***styfer12** left.* [31-Jul-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SamtheCossack** joined.* [31-Jul-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user100b8321c2** left.* [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: Ah shucks, got some BHP to repair my ship, but when I got back to my base, it needs 10 instead of 9 now [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: Before I go get some more, can a ship be repaired here at my base, or do I need to go to the shipyard at Yannick? [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ships can be repair at any base [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i unfortunately don't have any BHP hanging around (which is weird, i usually do), but maybe someone one else here had 1 they can sell you (to save you a trip) [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: i have to go back to sell some more stuff so it's all good [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: and thanks for the info! I'll be sure to buy some extra just in case [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have bhp you can have [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Send me contract at your price [31-Jul-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: I already sent it out to benten, it's a short trip, and it's not that urgent :D [31-Jul-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Ok [31-Jul-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***macheky** joined.* [31-Jul-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SamIAm512** joined.* [31-Jul-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSlothBoi** left.* [31-Jul-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11b351da82** left.* [31-Jul-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: my dear friends [31-Jul-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: I've got a ship that isnt being used at the moment, would anyone like to contract me for some shipping services? [31-Jul-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how big is your ship, and what are your shipping rates? [31-Jul-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: commit autistic levels of tax fraud <3 [31-Jul-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: I've got a 500m/t hold, im unsure how much to charge but 4x fuel is probably fair. give you the option to create time preference [31-Jul-24 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘ [31-Jul-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***phrog** left.* [31-Jul-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SwedeFarmer** left.* [31-Jul-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I see a lot of AMM buys in LM lately... becoming a commodity here? [31-Jul-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: probably because people are trying to find AMM at something less than the high CX prices [31-Jul-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: makes sense [31-Jul-24 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swiggis** joined.* [01-Aug-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdffb750e59** left.* [01-Aug-24 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user71a7077606** left.* [01-Aug-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbb722a811b** left.* [01-Aug-24 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7448b0047c** left.* [01-Aug-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tinblue** joined.* [01-Aug-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: is it illegal for a candidate to buy my vote [01-Aug-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: lololololol [01-Aug-24 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LucaFB** joined.* [01-Aug-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: what's your rate? xP [01-Aug-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: anyone else having issues with prun loading super slowly ? [01-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uranium3416** left.* [01-Aug-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I did notice a little lag last night, but it wasn't like more than about 3 seconds. [01-Aug-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***david19.lobo** joined.* [01-Aug-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user933e8746b9** left.* [01-Aug-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BenGatewood** left.* [01-Aug-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6fa52a423e** left.* [01-Aug-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm... not sure how i feel about this apparent attempt to pin SF.CI1 prices up at 15 CIS [01-Aug-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Marx** left.* [01-Aug-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Honestly I'm not upset. Lots of new players in fuel refining on Katoa from what I've seen the last couple weeks. This will help them get off the ground faster. Plus, what's an extra 5k every few days for anyone with an account more than a couple months old. [01-Aug-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I don't really need to extra but I'll ride the wave [01-Aug-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sucks for me cause nobody wants to sell me fuel for 12.50 on Katoa anymore. But overall not upset. [01-Aug-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zsed** joined.* [01-Aug-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zsed** left.* [01-Aug-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zsed** joined.* [01-Aug-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, it's obviously good for our local fuel producers [01-Aug-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: so quick question, when im sending a ship off and it says..2 days..is that real time [01-Aug-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep! [01-Aug-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: where are you sending it off too? [01-Aug-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i was just gonna pick up some things from the exchange [01-Aug-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i would bump up your fuel usage a bit [01-Aug-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me personally, i tend to use about 15% of my fuel, or about 200 units of STL. given the current positions of the planets in the system, this should mean about a 6 hours flight to benten station [01-Aug-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: its all good im going out of town this weekend [01-Aug-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: so 2 days is fine [01-Aug-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, perfect [01-Aug-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's smart flying [01-Aug-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: if you have a friend to play with ..is there a way to trade materials [01-Aug-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: can they just drop it off to you? [01-Aug-24 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unfortunately, direct contracts with other players requires a PRO subscription [01-Aug-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: what about if your in the same corporation [01-Aug-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: alas, even if you're in the same corp, you can't trade directly without a PRO subscription [01-Aug-24 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i will note that if you buy a PRO subscription and let it lapse, you'll be downgraded to a BASIC subscription which lets your accept direct contracts, but not initiate them [01-Aug-24 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, I usually aim for one or two ticks above the minimum for fuel burn. The minimum often gives you ridiculously long travel times. One tick above will barely increase fuel burn but could decrease the travel time by like 40% even. After the first couple ticks though, the inverse is true. You get less and less time for more fuel burn. 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[02-Aug-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: because someone is spending a bit of cash to pin the prices at 15+ [02-Aug-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***goldendemon43** joined.* [03-Aug-24 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frendlywolf** left.* [03-Aug-24 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: do you have to build another base to get more production lines [03-Aug-24 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Junetai** left.* [03-Aug-24 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: im trying to fix the fuel market InFinite [03-Aug-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hyper_Viper** left.* [03-Aug-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dragnavail** joined.* [03-Aug-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im loving the 15+ tho, its wonderful to be getting 130k per shipment [03-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: about 130k per 3 days, [03-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: correction 90k [03-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: so 30k a day is real nice [03-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: what i used to dream oif [03-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: lord how many refinerys are you running? [03-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: 8667 units per 3 days [03-Aug-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: 6? [03-Aug-24 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***moreorless** joined.* [03-Aug-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 8 refineries gives me about 6222 units of SF per day. @Zsed to answer your question: you can use up to 2 addiional permits per planet to expand your base area from 500 to 750 and then 750 to 1000. after that, you need to build another base on another planet [03-Aug-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corbus**: Would someone be kind enough to buy one BBH or one BDE from the lm for 1000 CIS please.. [03-Aug-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corbus**: I'm still stuck with a locked inventory. [03-Aug-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corbus**: I thought I could sell goods directly from the ship in BEN, but I guess that's not possible. [03-Aug-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nathers** joined.* [03-Aug-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Corbus**: NVM My ship wasn't in the station yet. 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Total cost in CIS just shy of 5.2 M. Note: there are extra parts there as well so make sure you know what you need to build your ship. I will be adding more parts as I make them but at this moment in time there are enough parts to build one complete ship. Prices are roughly the median between Ask and Bid, though some parts may not be available at Benton CX. [04-Aug-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you have something to bargain with you can negotiate better prices but not on public chat. [04-Aug-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spod** joined.* [04-Aug-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user45890b9788** left.* [04-Aug-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrTuxedo** joined.* [04-Aug-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTuxedo**: How the hell you buy resources [04-Aug-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you buy things at a commodity exchange (for example Benten Station) [04-Aug-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTuxedo**: sucks [04-Aug-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: your production lines can make you stuff, too [04-Aug-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but most stuff will come from the CX [04-Aug-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user04c96799ea** left.* [04-Aug-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NikoNi** joined.* [04-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: stuff takes time. such is life [04-Aug-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: my production line for fuel is probably the simplist [04-Aug-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: other professions take more buildings to be self sufficient [04-Aug-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but fuel is just, collector, extractor, and refinery [04-Aug-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: specifically on katoa [04-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but nah just, keep playing and play it safe [04-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: eventually youll be gud [04-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: :3 [04-Aug-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user92e75b1928** left.* [04-Aug-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wanderluster** left.* [04-Aug-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Engennerbot_2000** left.* [04-Aug-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2844f5b565** left.* [05-Aug-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: fuel is more about volume [05-Aug-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: its very easy to scale fuel production cuz the logistics are so simple. [05-Aug-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Just import your hydrogen and ammonia (you could produce ammonia yourself but meh its too costly to produce for little benefit. in the long run you would be better off with refineries instead of the space going to the collector ) [05-Aug-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: imo [05-Aug-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: (ammonia production does net you more than the upkeep costs) [05-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***frankarn** joined.* [05-Aug-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: Ammonia costs a lot. Is it really a good idea to buy it on CX rather than collecting it? [05-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: I have 2 COL, 2 EXT and 3 REF. Going to build another COL and EXT but your comment makes me question my choice [05-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: In the long term, yes. You could put up buy orders on the cx later on when you have the cash [05-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: keep your 2 collectors with you for now [05-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: you can simply buy excess ammonia [05-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: i have 1 collector, 4 extractors and 6 refineries, i have a little reserve of GAL and got a lot of AMM and H to continue production. I am in net -ve for GAL but its such a low rate of decline that I don't need much extra GAL [05-Aug-24 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: In the long term, you will want to make more refineries. keeping the collectors causes you to require more pioneer habitats which are an upfront cost in itself. [05-Aug-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @dev3l [05-Aug-24 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: thanks, it seems I should overthink my plans :) [05-Aug-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: spreadsheets help! 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All of them require buying resources somewhere on CX or off hand, and the benefits of such deals are many times lower than if you just refine the fuel. [05-Aug-24 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: In some cases, there is not even a profit - the resources needed cost more than the finished product. [05-Aug-24 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vee_prime** joined.* [05-Aug-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: Is it worth investing into rigs and a food processor to save on drinking water on katoa? or would I just be wasting space [05-Aug-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HalfYoung** joined.* [05-Aug-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can do it, and it's profitable. but there buildings that will be even more profitable [05-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: ah okay, thanks [05-Aug-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you're just getting started, it's ok because a small amount of rigs and FPs can provide 100% of what your small base needs [05-Aug-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but eventually you'll have so many people at your base that your FPs can't keep up, and so if you're going to be flying to the CX anyway to pick up food, you might as well buy all your food at the CX and use that base area for something else (most popular things here on katoa are manufacturing with BMPs and fuel refining with REFs) [05-Aug-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: yeah that makes sense, right now ive used most of my space up with refineries and the collectors and extractors needed, it makes more sense to just buy it [05-Aug-24 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vee_prime** left.* [05-Aug-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that said, it can sometimes be fun to make your own food, and this game is all about having fun, so... *shrug* [05-Aug-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Magican1980**: :) your are right ... there are persons who want to produce everything they use other specialising for one or two products [05-Aug-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Magican1980**: in the end you must make enough money to repair your base every 30 to 60 days and get the products for your workers [05-Aug-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vee_prime** joined.* [05-Aug-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plumpti** left.* [05-Aug-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***reddg** left.* [05-Aug-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: so how much money do u guys think it will take to start a 2nd base [05-Aug-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there are two capital expenditures to consider: the first is the costs to increase your number of permits. the second is the cost to actually build out the new base [05-Aug-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think all new players start with 2 permits? so you probably don't need to worry about that [05-Aug-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but when you build out your new base, make sure you keep enough cash reserves so that you can pay for inputs and consumables in your first base [05-Aug-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: so is there a way to increase your permits [05-Aug-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: right now i only have 2 production lines..any way to get a 3rd one [05-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you use prunplanner.org you can see exactly how much it will cost to build a new base [05-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you probably shouldn't be thinking about a new base until your first base is fully built out [05-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: right, but i have no idea what to build to increase production lines [05-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i want to be able to mine a 2nd material [05-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: with your collector? [05-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i have an extractor [05-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i want a collector also [05-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, then as long as your have base area, you can just build the collector [05-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: ah ok and it will populate a 3rd production line? [05-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: open up your base (BS UV-351a) and click the 'Construct' button [05-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, exactly [05-Aug-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and don't forget you can build multiple extractors [05-Aug-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: right now i just have extractor and refinery [05-Aug-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: bought enough materials to make 100 batches of fuel..so probably be able to upgrade after thats done [05-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nice. are you making SF or FF or both? [05-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: SF for now [05-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i want to be able to make both..but i think i need a 2nd base for that [05-Aug-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no need for another base [05-Aug-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: guess i can just buy the hydrogen [05-Aug-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [05-Aug-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: yup [05-Aug-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: just made my first trip to the exchange. in transit now with upkeep and materials to make SF [05-Aug-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i mean, if you want another base to collect hydrogen, then by all means go for it. but in general, expect to buy a lot of your input materials from the exchange [05-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: still decent profit buying the mats [05-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep [05-Aug-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: thought my first upgrade should be a collector though [05-Aug-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i have the workforce just sitting there [05-Aug-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the current AMM.CI prices are higher than normal, so collecting your own AMM sounds like a good plan right now [05-Aug-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: H is in oversuply if I see corectly [05-Aug-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: Oh yea [05-Aug-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not sure that's true. H.CI1 prices have been rising slowly over the past 90 days [05-Aug-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but not by a whole lot. the market for H seems like it slightly favors producers over consumer [05-Aug-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: Its is rising [05-Aug-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: maybe because SF spiked [05-Aug-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: at the end of the day, it's generally more profitable to harvest it yourself, tho it increases the amount of workforce you must sustain. increased consumption and capital investment locks you in over the longer term but provides you with greater price stability. [05-Aug-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: the same could be said of purchasing large quantities of supplies, beyond a simple 10 day period [05-Aug-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i bought about a months worth [05-Aug-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: well some of the stuff..ill need to make 1 more trip this month for DW and RAT [05-Aug-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as a new player, you might want to consider keeping a smaller stockpile, at least for right now [05-Aug-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it would be more efficient to use your cash to expand your production, than it would be to maintain a large stockpile of materials [05-Aug-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: well this trip i bought 100 batches of fuel mats..and DW RAT for about 12 days..and Overalls 30 days [05-Aug-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (but in general, keeping multiple weeks worth of input materials is very normal) [05-Aug-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i messed up the first time and waiting too long to send my ships [05-Aug-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: my refinery is doing nothting right now [05-Aug-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I tend to keep some extra H on Katoa, also AMM and GAL in much smaller amounts, if any newer fuel peeps needs some. Just ping me and ill send a contract [05-Aug-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: im good..just have to wait 9 hrs [05-Aug-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: timed it to manage it before bed [05-Aug-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: cya everyone, thanks for the info..be back tonight [05-Aug-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: For future reference, can definately keep the H cost below 100 for now at least [05-Aug-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i am producing an excess of H and i soon hope to be selling the excess here at katoa for cheap [05-Aug-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (where "soon" means "within a week") [05-Aug-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If only there were decent shippers lol [05-Aug-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTuxedo**: How to get rated [05-Aug-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Get PRO and complete trades, not super relevant for the most part [05-Aug-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTuxedo**: is getting PRO necessary [05-Aug-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: For certain things like direct contracts an LM trades [05-Aug-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but a player without PRO/BASIC can't accept contracts or LM ads, so it doesn't matter [05-Aug-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTuxedo**: sucks [05-Aug-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: IMO Pro is worth it but also nice that it defaults to BASIC so even getting one month helps the devs and gets great bonuses [05-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jtharp** left.* [05-Aug-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninjaon** joined.* [05-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jebthesecondofengland** joined.* [05-Aug-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: As a new player, would people suggest an extractor or collector first? [05-Aug-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you going for SF fuel refining? [05-Aug-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Not certain, if I go extractor for sure [05-Aug-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: but I could be wrong but it seems like the ftl margins are better [05-Aug-24 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: But Katoa doesn't have either materials for ftl as materials? [05-Aug-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at the moment, profits for both SF and FF are about the same, i think [05-Aug-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's right, if you're interested in doing FF production, you have to buy everything at the CX [05-Aug-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: so if I am interested in SF refining, should i go for ammonia since its cost is higher in the recipe? [05-Aug-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: wait just saw spread is 65 so not sure [05-Aug-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ehh, not really sure what to build first. at the current AMM prices, you can extract it yourself for less than it costs you to buy it at the CX, but not rally clear how long AMM prices will stay elevated (they certainly don't look to be coming down anytime soon) [05-Aug-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you are trying to maximize profitability, then the real answer is: use prunplanner to figure out which building gives you the highest daily profit [05-Aug-24 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Ope I will look into that [05-Aug-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: is there a specific tool i should look into on that website? [05-Aug-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes. you'll want to create an account, and then enter details about your base. you can play around with adding builds and production orders, and prunplanner will tell you how much you can expect to make at current market prices [05-Aug-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but be warned: it can be a little confusing [05-Aug-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Is there a way to see theoretical yields from machines [05-Aug-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Like how to see how much Ammonia an extractor would collect per timeframe? [05-Aug-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: without actually having an extractor [05-Aug-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://prunplanner.org/ {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/ PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [05-Aug-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: incredible tool developed by Scorpio, amazing for planning out bases and seeing daily yield for balancing thinggs [05-Aug-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Yeah I am trying to use that tool but it seems confusing and says my FIO won't connect after i made an account [05-Aug-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Wait I got it! I think [05-Aug-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Ty for the help [05-Aug-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: noo problem! even without connecting FIO it's a great tool for just messing around with base options and seeing what planets and builds are make the most sense [05-Aug-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8e992ff7ec** left.* [05-Aug-24 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6e6749dcbe** left.* [06-Aug-24 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Varmin** joined.* [06-Aug-24 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Varmin**: hey there, new player here, any advice starting out? 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[06-Aug-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Cause it says it won't store anything at the exchange if i don't have the space, but the little tutorial was also saying that if I don't have space it will make a contract to pick it up [06-Aug-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah. it's probably just easier to rent a warehouse to hold stuff. they're pretty cheap. it'll make it much easier to see what materials you've bought because you can see them directly in your warehouse inventory [06-Aug-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (instead of trying to click through a bunch of contracts) [06-Aug-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Gotcha gotcha [06-Aug-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Thank you for the help yesterday btw, the planner tool is a huge help, I really appreciate it [06-Aug-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: great, glad you figured it out. it can be confusing at first, but it's really an invaluable tool [06-Aug-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (FYI, rental fees at benten station are 100 CIS per week, which is really very cheap) [06-Aug-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Ah i see that now, I was assuming it would have been more [06-Aug-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ninjaon**: Not probably gonna need it for a couple days though, just spent about all I had expanding a second refinery and about 5 days of supplies [06-Aug-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoeRazor** joined.* [06-Aug-24 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninjaon** left.* [06-Aug-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninjaon** joined.* [07-Aug-24 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jessasaurus** joined.* [07-Aug-24 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: Any suggestions what to build next, have fuel production going...collector and extractor..unsure what to build next [07-Aug-24 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: keep building extractors and refineries. [07-Aug-24 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: You can either import H and AMM or make more collectors and supply yourself with AMM. I would say have 1-2 collectors in total, later on you could just buy amm from the CX. [07-Aug-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @Zsed [07-Aug-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: yea right now im pulling AMM and GAL rock [07-Aug-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: make refineires [07-Aug-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: refinery will be under the settler tab in the construction buffer [07-Aug-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: you don't need to have settlers to start producing SF from the refineries [07-Aug-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: yea i have 1 refinery..so u think expanding to 2 is better [07-Aug-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: yes. gets you more SF which you can sell to expand [07-Aug-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: oic so my material deficit just buy the stuff [07-Aug-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: You might want to look at a tool or make a spreadsheet to compute exactly how much material you are producing to balance it [07-Aug-24 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Prunplanner has a nice base planner, you will have to play around with it but its quite good imo [07-Aug-24 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: until you make your own spreadsheets ofc [07-Aug-24 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: i was just wondering...should I go all in on fuel..or diversify [07-Aug-24 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: as far as I have been told and I have discovered, its best to stick to one thing on one base. Its due to how experts work. In the long run, its best to do one thing at one base [07-Aug-24 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: oic [07-Aug-24 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: and since you are starting out, best to stick to making GAL and making more fuel [07-Aug-24 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: so just keep making coll ext and ref ..until the area is maxed [07-Aug-24 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: pretty much but you should look at balancing your supply [07-Aug-24 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: extractors make a lot more than what a refinery working with just pioneers can use. [07-Aug-24 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: right [07-Aug-24 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: yea def need another collector and refinery then [07-Aug-24 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: refinery first though i think [07-Aug-24 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zsed** deleted this message.* [07-Aug-24 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zsed**: 2 col 1 ext and 2 refineries seems like a good ratio..1 extra GAL.. 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[08-Aug-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aixoth**: Agrre [08-Aug-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aixoth**: *Agree [08-Aug-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: I know it's to balance, but I could do that in my house rn. [08-Aug-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TeemoTime** left.* [08-Aug-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FreeWheels** joined.* [08-Aug-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I will almost certainly have surplus AMM listed in the LM when available. [08-Aug-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yay [08-Aug-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: current CX prices are not fun at all [08-Aug-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0f7de8a1ff** left.* [08-Aug-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I've got some AMM if needed [08-Aug-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DudeInCorner** deleted this message.* [08-Aug-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: lol how much Hydrogen do you need? [08-Aug-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Hahaha I can't read so I thought we were complaining about H prices, not AMM [08-Aug-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: I can afford it, I'm just reminiscing about the 80 CIS days [08-Aug-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: as soon as I can build a HV ship, I can bring the price down a bit I think. At least locally. [08-Aug-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I mine it on Biogenesis, and I have room to expand a lot if it's profitable. [08-Aug-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I could mine up to 1400/day if I went all out. [08-Aug-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: but I just got my 15th refinery up, so I should be pumping out about 12k SF/day now. [08-Aug-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stowesh** left.* [08-Aug-24 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Matiamo**: I'm confused on the AMM and H prices, the 90d really shows how high they've gotten cost wise at the CX [08-Aug-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: They always fluxtuate a lot honestly. I haven't watch AMM as much, but H is always up and down in these big swings every 2 months or so. Maybe correlates with waves of new players? [08-Aug-24 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NMSmith42** joined.* [08-Aug-24 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1dcb831ef5** left.* [09-Aug-24 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LostNomad** joined.* [09-Aug-24 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ludwigidius** joined.* [09-Aug-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: With so much AMM and H being used by "in house" I wonder how much of the price movement is excess shedding vs people ramping up and buying to start their entire chain? [09-Aug-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***v6ib_olla** left.* [09-Aug-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ESilva** joined.* [09-Aug-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a good question. i feel like the player base is still small enough that it doesn't take very many people to change their inputs/outputs to have a noticeable impact [09-Aug-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. Although I have seen the player number slowly slowly ticking up [09-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: During the summer no less too. I suspect come September the number online will come up again too [09-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Online number vs active players is tough. Especially with Prunplanner I suspect the online time in game has dropped per player [09-Aug-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeonM2** joined.* [09-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DKsimi_** joined.* [09-Aug-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fire_Fox_42** joined.* [09-Aug-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***legosteve** joined.* [09-Aug-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ferinn** joined.* [09-Aug-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user449b0d6817** left.* [09-Aug-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Is producing your own H for fuel really viable? I came close to starting an H base but my prunplanner numbers didn't look good at all [09-Aug-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Or at least, scaling up my current fuel base to max looked way better [09-Aug-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: I dont think so, ive got like a small base with ammonia and Galerite on it along with 3 Refinerys and even there i do at times question if thoose extractor and collectors are actually worth it [09-Aug-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Yeah, I think for GAL it's mostly because you can't fit much into a ship, instead of buying cost, but AMM and H you can fit 500 each trip [09-Aug-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. I think with fuel refining, GAL is the only one that poses a problem. [09-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And on Katoa, you should not be producing AMM. The tap is so little you have to build out tons and tons of collectors to keep your REFs fed, and it's just not worth it. [09-Aug-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: For a beginner, building EXTs on Katoa is worth it, but end goal should be 13 refineries once you can supply the base. Biogenesis has a great AMM tap. Only problem is it costs a fortune to develop the planet. CB-282 has a good H tap. Problem again is that it's a liiiiitle bit expensive to develop the planet. [09-Aug-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And you'd still be missing GAL. Fuel refining is a tough start. It can be extremely profitable once you have the supply chain down. But it requires millions to get that all setup, and the starter ships won't be nearly enough to handle the logistics side of things. [09-Aug-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think it cost me about 2 million CIS to fully develop my H base on CB-282d [09-Aug-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: There ya go, a lotta bit expensive [09-Aug-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: honestly H is at a decent place on CX. I think AMM and H are historically very oversupplied on CX because they're easy to overproduce for fuel. That was pushing the price super low for a very long time, then the supply dried up and both H and AMM are at a pretty reasonable price now for their CoGM, as is SF. I think H around 110-120, AMM around 120-130, and SF around 14-15 is a solid spot to be [09-Aug-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which is a lot, but is totally achievable for a newish player. but SilentReaper is right about the logistics challange, and i think if you're a new player looking to start your second base, there are better options than H on CB-282d [09-Aug-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: AMM does look a little high, brb [09-Aug-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: The spread on AMM is enormous. I agree around 120-140 for AMM is good. 110-120 for H also decent. [09-Aug-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: CptColeslaw is currently rummaging around between the couch seat cushions and is about to produce thousands of spare AMM [09-Aug-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hahaha. Hey, wouldn't be unhappy that's for sure. [09-Aug-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: lol, found it [09-Aug-24 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Got your first customer right here [09-Aug-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kurokitsukami**: So do you expect AMM to decrease both in spread and price? [09-Aug-24 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I mean, building out BIO is expensive, but I think with prices where they have been, I can't imagine it hasn't prompted some people to go that direction. [09-Aug-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah this is the first big swing in a long time. the prices were supressed by a missive oversupply for months and months, then the supply finally dried up a bit and the price shot off. I would expect it to settle around 120-140 like SilentReaper said. If people start overproducing because of this spike it could even drop low agin, but right now it's definitely a bit bloated I think [09-Aug-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I just got my 5th expert on Biogenesis this morning though and I can fit 3 more EXT, so I'll see if I can hold it at 130 for now, maybe 120 in the future [09-Aug-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it's a bit bulky and not really valuable enough to be worth shipping to other CXs for the profit, so I'd be surprised if someone bought it up to try that. And I don't expect it to spike higher so it wouldn't be too smart to buy and list higher [09-Aug-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That is typical to gasses. Profit margins tend to be good trading between CXs, but the profit per ton is.... abysmal [09-Aug-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PythonTek77** joined.* [09-Aug-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cofo** joined.* [09-Aug-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Wow. That AMM lasted about as long as a fart in the wind [09-Aug-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yup. post at 130 bid if you want some though... [09-Aug-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: if anyone is interested in some incredibly boring bookkeeping for the sake of government transparency: here is the list of material prices that I'm trying to balance tax revenue around as well as the ledger of all upkeep I've filled since becoming governor. So this is where the numbers that you see in those reimbursment motions come from (if you pay that much attention Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― ) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTyn-zrqCk52F3IhGPPPo_EZjZ2TM0rUlAYVDv1OUZ-Fajy0SuLWAn25_NTeGdb9mizE7VRti6hCHQ2/pubhtml# [09-Aug-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Will do cap. Thanks [09-Aug-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***james.dwagin** left.* [10-Aug-24 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoodleMiner** joined.* [10-Aug-24 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BastySN** joined.* [10-Aug-24 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wulffi** joined.* [10-Aug-24 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yuytheassasin** joined.* [10-Aug-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Broboticus** joined.* [10-Aug-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sleeeper** joined.* [10-Aug-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***05K4R.09** left.* [10-Aug-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user97980fed7a** left.* [10-Aug-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ludwigidius**: what is cap rate like in this game? [10-Aug-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: Cap rate? [10-Aug-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ludwigidius**: like on a ship [10-Aug-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: capacity of cargo? [10-Aug-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ludwigidius**: income as a percentage of the asset cost over a period of time [10-Aug-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: That's variable depending how you using your ship [10-Aug-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Easiest calc is going to be running goods strait to CX for sell. Some goods you can sell on the LM, and use your ship to cart materials around instead... jsut depends really. [10-Aug-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I think the consensous is that ships slow down significantly at 80%, and should be repaired before that. [10-Aug-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: No no [10-Aug-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: They start to slow down at 80% [10-Aug-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ludwigidius**: right, but I need to have a cap rate or roi to figure out speed I'm running them at [10-Aug-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I dont know of a resource that spits out the data you're looking for like Prun would for a new base. I'm sure someone out in the ether has a spreadsheet that might though. These guys love their spreadsheets. 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I had to ship all the way to moria and that added days to my cycle causing delayed AMM import and now I am almost out. If somebody has AMM, i'll be happy to buy at CX prices. [11-Aug-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I do have a shipment of AMM coming in though so I only need some AMM. About 20 AMM would do until my ship arrives [11-Aug-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I have AMM on Ben if you need it. [11-Aug-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ludwigidius**: you're not capturing it? [11-Aug-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9d9d3963d** left.* [11-Aug-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SchrodingerCat** joined.* [11-Aug-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Mystical_a**: What sort of strategy should I use when it comes to repairing buildings, I forgot that you had to and now I have a little problem on my hands... What can I do to avoid this happening again in the future? [11-Aug-24 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Maybe set a repeating ping in a calendar app of your choice, to remind you every 60 days. [11-Aug-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***0guyboom** left.* [11-Aug-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Myrc** joined.* [11-Aug-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atta** joined.* [11-Aug-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ludwigidius**: how are farms vs HYF? [11-Aug-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: HYFs suck water like crazy. But water is cheap so don't matter much. Bigger difference is that there are some things that only FRMs can produce. [11-Aug-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And HYFs don't get a fertility bonus. [11-Aug-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: And some things that only HYF can produce, like the all-holy CAF, nectar of the gods. 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[12-Aug-24 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, send a contract, or put something up on the LM [12-Aug-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeanRexxTTV**: bro im still waiting for the benten MG supply to run out :( [12-Aug-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mnavas** joined.* [13-Aug-24 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OmegaSupreme** joined.* [13-Aug-24 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dizzplaced** joined.* [13-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirMCool** left.* [13-Aug-24 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ondradoksy2** left.* [13-Aug-24 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***frankarn** left.* [13-Aug-24 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LucaFB** left.* [13-Aug-24 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Montza** joined.* [13-Aug-24 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rebelepik** joined.* [13-Aug-24 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7b8ea793b3** left.* [13-Aug-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: When I look at the pricing on the local market, the prices are generally terrible compared to the CX. Are all the "good deals" snapped up immediately (so only the bad ones are left) or am I missing something? [13-Aug-24 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the local market is weird [13-Aug-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***urbanninja1010** joined.* [13-Aug-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gogol** joined.* [13-Aug-24 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: It is often used for corp-internal purchases t hat don't necessarily follow the rules of CX. [13-Aug-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: Local Market is all about building relationships [13-Aug-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***1000** left.* [13-Aug-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paptarika** joined.* [13-Aug-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***anhur.amun** left.* [13-Aug-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wulffi** left.* [13-Aug-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9a1103dee9** left.* [13-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfc83935ce3** left.* [13-Aug-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***infinitespy** joined.* [13-Aug-24 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfc1aa73c39** left.* [13-Aug-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***plop91** left.* [13-Aug-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: "building relationships" - yeah, I like to make new friends by charging them an obscene "convenience" fee, too! [13-Aug-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: youd be surprised at what you can negotiate when the relationship is mutually beneficial. It's what this whole game is about. [13-Aug-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: sometimes you end up with excess product that doesn't move and will get rid of it on the cheap just so it doesnt stop production [13-Aug-24 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: yeah, but most of the LM is just 10%+ markup on whatever, or someone asking for something at < 50% of cost. Like 420 C @ 1.00 PPU... lol [13-Aug-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: any of the outragous numbers are going to be internal sales. Corperation discounts for other corperation members. [13-Aug-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: A lot of times you'll see CX prices here or bid prices here [13-Aug-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: some folks will deal just strait through the chat [13-Aug-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: an PMs [13-Aug-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or just people fishing for cheap stuff. it wouldn't get worked up about those orders [13-Aug-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Like I have GAL listed at 150, bid in CX is 125, ask is 198... if someone wants a better deal than CX, its there, but if someone new really needs it, Id let some go for super cheap [13-Aug-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: we were all new once. [13-Aug-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: That's a buying order. Also buying AL @ 285 (837 on CX). The only thing ever really reasonably priced is the stuff too heavy to move easily, like GAL @ 150 is a mid-range price. [13-Aug-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: gents, I have some carbon burning facilities that I plan on liquidating for capital. in about 1 day + 7h, I'll be selling off my materials and supplies for a restructuring. 4 incinerators and about 8+ days of upkeep + carb plants. Let me know if you are interested. [13-Aug-24 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I like building materials. [13-Aug-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: PM me with what you end up with. [13-Aug-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Llosidian**: I could take one incinerator's worth off your hands for the right price. Don't need the rest though. [13-Aug-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i like carbon, sad to see one less carbon producer [13-Aug-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jebthesecondofengland** left.* [14-Aug-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beige** joined.* [14-Aug-24 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***royal45** left.* [14-Aug-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seiun_Sky** joined.* [14-Aug-24 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3a0bbf1a07** left.* [14-Aug-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9412b1abc8** left.* [14-Aug-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dynom** left.* [14-Aug-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnityIsBetter** left.* [14-Aug-24 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Delamornaix** joined.* [14-Aug-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Inominus1234** left.* [14-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rty27** joined.* [14-Aug-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kejax** joined.* [14-Aug-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fennvc** left.* [14-Aug-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***t0x1cv3n0m26** joined.* [14-Aug-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user77bbfeecbc** left.* [14-Aug-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimLegion** joined.* [14-Aug-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RemedyHearts** joined.* [14-Aug-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thurian** joined.* [14-Aug-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alchemill** left.* [14-Aug-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaegermeisterlol** joined.* [14-Aug-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tobybal027** joined.* [14-Aug-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8578265c09** left.* [14-Aug-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jee40** left.* [14-Aug-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eight-7** joined.* [14-Aug-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***threeOfWands** joined.* [15-Aug-24 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. Looking for someone with a base on CB-282c or any other H producing planet. Looking to source large quantities of the stuff. I can pick up. Offering 100/u. Looking to source in the range of 450H a day more or less. [15-Aug-24 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YangWeed** left.* [15-Aug-24 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user24d531f0e9** left.* [15-Aug-24 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrClone231** joined.* [15-Aug-24 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrTuxedo** left.* [15-Aug-24 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @SilentReaper That might be me in a month from now. I'm looking to establish my second base on CB-282c and strictly produce H for my refineries on Katoa. (I'm not PRO or BASIC. Still thinking about it. Only been playing for 2 months.) [15-Aug-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HalfYoung** left.* [15-Aug-24 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't think i can commit to 450 per day (every day), but i can sell you some H [15-Aug-24 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'll take what you got. Let me know how much you can spare and I'll send you a contract in a couple days. [15-Aug-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'd prefer to send you contracts, actually. for 1000 units at a time, with pickup at CB, based on my stockpiles [15-Aug-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if that sounds ok [15-Aug-24 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sure. Works for me. [15-Aug-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Would 2k at a time work? [15-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure [15-Aug-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm already moving about 3k up here to katoa, so give me another several days to build up some more stock [15-Aug-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No problem. I have a few days of stock already, so a week or something would work perfectly. [15-Aug-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: depending on my supply as well and if your cool with pickup i could possibly fill gaps of H from CB-282d [15-Aug-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SomeRacerGuy** left.* [15-Aug-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avesome** joined.* [15-Aug-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Diggelaer** left.* [15-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gwyn0** joined.* [15-Aug-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eight-7** left.* [15-Aug-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eight-7** joined.* [15-Aug-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoppyRex** joined.* [15-Aug-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deceiver** left.* [15-Aug-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryuuma** joined.* [15-Aug-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dizzplaced** left.* [15-Aug-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ranga6Astral** joined.* [15-Aug-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user530f08a8e4** left.* [15-Aug-24 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranga6Astral**: help please [15-Aug-24 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [15-Aug-24 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrClone231**: looking as a member of corp, just joined as fuel refiner, no paid licence [15-Aug-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DotNorth** joined.* [15-Aug-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you visited the corp recruitment boards in the UFO discord? if not, i can send you a link [15-Aug-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrClone231**: sure [15-Aug-24 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://discord.gg/upV4GF3z [15-Aug-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***p4ff** left.* [16-Aug-24 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***some_good_ribs** joined.* [16-Aug-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***natedog25909** joined.* [16-Aug-24 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7f249cf94f** left.* [16-Aug-24 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NickH** joined.* [16-Aug-24 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NickH** left.* [16-Aug-24 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kalatschik** joined.* [16-Aug-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere6457e3d05** left.* [16-Aug-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***J.Pela** left.* [16-Aug-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darQrab** left.* [16-Aug-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi all, another round of hydrogen has been delivered, so i'm again offering to sell up to 500 units at 75 CIS each to any new players making fuel here on katoa [16-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoeRazor** left.* [16-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Same deal as above from me!! 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[17-Aug-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MrChouSaru**: You need to buy or produce it Fabre [17-Aug-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MrChouSaru**: use the trading screen to find the closest station selling it and send a ship over, once its there buy and load it up send it back to your base [17-Aug-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bleebler** joined.* [17-Aug-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFinalxBoss** joined.* [17-Aug-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DingBunkles** joined.* [17-Aug-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VossBender** left.* [17-Aug-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wildwurst** left.* [17-Aug-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fire_Fox_42** left.* [17-Aug-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ragnarok1294** joined.* [17-Aug-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bebop_** left.* [17-Aug-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zwixie** left.* [17-Aug-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LostNomad** left.* [17-Aug-24 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***johnkush50** joined.* [17-Aug-24 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItShallBeJordan** left.* [18-Aug-24 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BastySN** left.* [18-Aug-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yuytheassasin** left.* [18-Aug-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***maxteusz4** left.* [18-Aug-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hambone52** joined.* [18-Aug-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zuo1987** joined.* [18-Aug-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Broboticus** left.* [18-Aug-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hambone52** left.* [18-Aug-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera6ac37f51d** left.* [18-Aug-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Im looking for some ship parts, mainly CQL, LFE, and VCB. anyone that could help source those to help me get a damn ship upgrade lol? [18-Aug-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you checked the UFO discord? there are a few ship builders who offer things there [18-Aug-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: was hoping for here before delving into dicord [18-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You could go to the commodity exchanges. CQL.CI1 LFE.CI1 VCB.CI1 [18-Aug-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Check charts on those, supply is so low i would rather talk to someone than guess at a reasonable price [18-Aug-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i will note that AI1 generally has a better market for ship building materials, so don't just confine yourself to looking at benten [18-Aug-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i just got a faction contract to finish a ship construction project. but it unfortunately has a 20 day deadline, which isn't quite going to work for me :( [18-Aug-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PinkFluffyApples2** joined.* [18-Aug-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userae355b1e0b** left.* [18-Aug-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: With Selling STF Fuel Is it better to wait until I can fill a ship and send it to market or send one in a rough set time period? [18-Aug-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: The answer to this question would be useful to me too. [18-Aug-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: @Doppy, yes do it when your ship is completely full, if your cashflow can permit it. [18-Aug-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: So basically wait till I'm down to 2 days of supply then send the Ship out. Kk [18-Aug-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: 500mt ship can hold 8333 fuel plus the tank, another 1.1k = 9433 STL in total @ 12CIS per is 113,196CIS. at a hypothetical price of 4k in STL for a roundtrip to Benten station, travel expenses represent a loss of 3.5% of your sales. if you only ship 2500STL @ 12CIS, the same travel expense would eat up 13% of your sales! [18-Aug-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Is there any minimum load that isn't worth taking no matter if I'm strapped on cash or not? [18-Aug-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: for me, i do not get out of bed for less than double my travel expenses. but this is a choice you must make for yourself [18-Aug-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: kk thanks for the advice. [18-Aug-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: /salute [18-Aug-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThomastheTrain** joined.* [18-Aug-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2c76988561** left.* [18-Aug-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emerald_Tun**: I need some DW (Posted AD),can someone help me ? 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[19-Aug-24 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [19-Aug-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you have a PRO account, you can trade on the local market, or directly with other players [19-Aug-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but without PRO, you have to trade on the commodity exchange (benten exchange is the closest one to katoa) [19-Aug-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ah, I see thank you [19-Aug-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: all that way to get hydrogen lol [19-Aug-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ship out with Fuel ship back with Hydrogen and Upkeep materials. [19-Aug-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you decide to get a PRO license, let me know and i can sell you some hydrogen here on katoa [19-Aug-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh yeah it would make sense to bring fuel to sell, wouldn't it haha. [19-Aug-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Hey thanks @eminen [19-Aug-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: How much should I roughly save up before going for buildings beyond a Collector Extractor and Refinery. [19-Aug-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: How much hydrogen should I buy at a time? I also think Ill need ammonia.. [19-Aug-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Depends on how long your thinking between selling trips [19-Aug-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ah okay thanks [19-Aug-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you want Ammonia I would suggest buying the materials to build a collector back at your base on Katoa. [19-Aug-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I definitely want a collector but it is quite expensive it seems [19-Aug-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You can then just mine it up there and not need to worry about shipping it back every time. [19-Aug-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how many refineries do you have at the moment? [19-Aug-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm on 1 Refinery, 1 Collector, 1 Extractor [19-Aug-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok. your refinery can produce about 500 SF per day. your ship can hold 8333 SF in its cargo hold, so it will take you 16 days to fill up your cargo hold. [19-Aug-24 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: however waiting 16 full days sounds kinda boring, so you'll probably want to make a few trips to the CX without a fuel load [19-Aug-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ye I've currently been going with 1000 SF each time [19-Aug-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Which is 200 ish for a full trip on fuel, and then 800 to sell [19-Aug-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You should have enough materials for a collector to go with your extractor and refinery. [19-Aug-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, they said they already have one [19-Aug-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh wait, nevermind [19-Aug-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've already got one @RamenTheKid doesn't. [19-Aug-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm getting you two mixed up, 'cause i'm a dummy [19-Aug-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hehe [19-Aug-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Np [19-Aug-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also hi and welcome to you too @DoppyRex [19-Aug-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You talked to me yesterday for a bit :). but thanks! [19-Aug-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm just wondering whats the best way to go about expansion of the base. [19-Aug-24 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well clearly my powers of observation and attention are lacking this morning [19-Aug-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: One of those mornings [19-Aug-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: big monday vibes on this monday morning [19-Aug-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: regarding your question: are you asking about what types of buildings you should be building next? [19-Aug-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [19-Aug-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got a Collector Extractor, Refinery and 2 HB1's [19-Aug-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm just wondering on expanding the amount of money I'm making where should I be aiming [19-Aug-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you want to expand into fuel-refining some more, and you want to maximize profits, i'd play around in prunplanner to figure out if it's more profitable to build collectors/extractors, or to instead build only REFs [19-Aug-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but some people like to be more self-sufficient, even if that means slightly less profits, so building collectors/extractors could be a good choice for that type of play [19-Aug-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Fair [19-Aug-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and note that katoa has a manufacturing bonus, so at some point (doesn't have to be now), you should think about if you want to expand into manufacturing stuff with a BMP [19-Aug-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: BMP? [19-Aug-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah it makes OVE's and things [19-Aug-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Basic Materials Plant [19-Aug-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ipman** left.* [19-Aug-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ggh42** left.* [19-Aug-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eml** left.* [19-Aug-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1e598be1e2** left.* [19-Aug-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravenesce** left.* [19-Aug-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***robot2000000000** left.* [19-Aug-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Is FTL fuel worth selling or hanging onto? I dont see myself leaving the system anytime soon [19-Aug-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at current prices, SF is about 25% more profitable than FF [19-Aug-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i personally make a small amount of FF for own personal use, but mostly make SF to use and sell [19-Aug-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yeah it seemed SF was more profitable... Might hang on to the FF for later or something then [19-Aug-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Is there any way I can deliver other people's goods from Katoa to Benten Station for some cash? [19-Aug-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I have like... 450t and 450m3 of space left on my ship lol [19-Aug-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If people offer you contracts [19-Aug-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @RamenTheKid if you haven't sent your ship yet I'll pay you to transport some fuel for me [19-Aug-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah sure! 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[20-Aug-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: wassap [20-Aug-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***was_dein_problem.exe** joined.* [20-Aug-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***giobb** joined.* [20-Aug-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: i have a newbie question for whomever would love to answer me lol [20-Aug-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im a newbie too but I might be able to help lol [20-Aug-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: i created a contract to buy some bse, but its showing closed and pending [20-Aug-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: closed means its still available but has none of its requirements fulfilled [20-Aug-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: so will it automatically fulfill its self? [20-Aug-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: No I think you have to do that? [20-Aug-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: okay next question: hjow do i move around the map. maybe i gotta go to the station [20-Aug-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So are you trying to get BSE from contract, local market, or commodity exchange [20-Aug-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: benten station commodity exchange [20-Aug-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh, you need to send one of your 2 starter ships to Benten Commodit Exchange [20-Aug-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I recommend sending items you produced to sell, then coming back with upkeep items (the red items) and any resources you need [20-Aug-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah if you bought some at the CX you need to send one of your ships out there to fufill the pickup and collect the order. [20-Aug-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah [20-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: i accidentally closed out the ship screen that showed my two boats.. how do i move lol [20-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If your going to send your ship out there you should load it up with anything you want to sell (So Fuel) [20-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Open a buffer with the command FLT [20-Aug-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: WOO thankyou! so i have some fuel ill load up pick up [20-Aug-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Biobb I have a ship about to arrive at the station and return in about a day, if you want I can pick up your stuff for you [20-Aug-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: i didnt know thats possible... do i need to give you permissions or something? i purchased 16 bse [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Do you have pro license? [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: no [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so I know you can make shipping contracts but idk, do you know @doppy? [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah unfortunately you can't do it then :(. [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: dang [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah in your case its best to load up your ship with fuel send it to the CX [20-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Sell the fuel when you arrive and pickup your cargo [20-Aug-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: well if you get pro within 8 hours let me know @giobb lol [20-Aug-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: got it. ill check fuel prices and see what pro is all about . thank you both! [20-Aug-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: np [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: or whatever else you produce [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: np! [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: But FTL fuel is best saved since its not selling high, right? [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: PRO has several benefits, but i think the biggest benefit is that you can trade on the local markets and directly with other players (without having to go through the CX) [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: That direct trading is crazy useful [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but the free version of prun is still very fun [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im really vibing with this game so I might get pro again, idk [20-Aug-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Just don't do a me and accidentally buy 200 Units of Water instead of hydrogen on the local market. [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: OH NO lol [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: FTL fuel isn't needed until you accept exploration or transport contracts. [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh hey eminence [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @DoppyRex, if you have pro, i'll buy that H2O from you at whatever price you paid for it [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Theres exploration contracts?? [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Exploration contracts are almost never worth it. [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got Pro [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: faction contracts [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, as part of the faction contract system [20-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'll go check what I spent on it. [20-Aug-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I see [20-Aug-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: for sending ships to planets and landing on them. [20-Aug-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and yeah, exploration contracts are almost never worth it, both in terms of time and fuel costs. but very rarely you'll get an exploration contract to a planet on which you have a base [20-Aug-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah I see [20-Aug-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @eminence32 I spent 10K on 200 Water [20-Aug-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone got some hydrogen I can buy? I only need a little rn [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: ill probably just sell all my fuel minus what i need for the ship to fly i guess.. literally my first hour of gameplay rn so idk about my production rn [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: How much you need to tie you over till your ship gets back? [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: giobb I was told to sell all my SF, we make it for so cheap anyway [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @giobb Have you completed the tutorial? [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I have hydrogen on Kat [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sending you a contract for 200. [20-Aug-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @silentReaper ayyy cool stuff [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Keep like 500 SF in your ship [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: i have, but it only showed how to unload the boat not fill it [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: omg PLEASE complete the tutorial, it gives free materials [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: is the tutorial not the thing that makes u start a base? [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Drag the fuel icons into your ship [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: inventory [20-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: from your base's inventory [20-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Also, make sure you have some fuel in your fuel tank(s) [20-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: But not all the fuel either [20-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: because you can't take it out again after. [20-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Can't you? [20-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: The fuel tank fuel i mean [20-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's not true. you can remove fuel from your fuel tank [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: thankfully these ships are full of fuel (1500) [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: no i can't transfer fuel from my FTL fuel tank into my ship's cargo. [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: without me doing anything [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you might have to transfer the fuel from tanks to base first, and then base to cargo [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: They start out full [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I just pulled fuel out of my landed ship and put it into my base? [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. I believe you can move fuel between your fuel tank and inventory of the ship if the ship is stationary or to your base inventory etc. [20-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeahhhhh thats it [20-Aug-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Both STL (yellow coloured fuel) and FTL (blue coloured fuel) fuels start completely full. [20-Aug-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Ah. My ship is in motion [20-Aug-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I guess the cargo bay and fuel tanks aren't in the same location? [20-Aug-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, they're part of the same ship. but there isn't a pipe that connects to two :) [20-Aug-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: my fuels are both green [20-Aug-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: both ff and sf [20-Aug-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Means in the FLT menu [20-Aug-24 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Not in Cargo bay [20-Aug-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: They do it with planes [20-Aug-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Someone mentioned they were going to make a contract with me, but I havent recieved one? [20-Aug-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Sent it to me by accdient [20-Aug-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh lol [20-Aug-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ooooh. That's my bad [20-Aug-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: also, I need ammonia if anyone has that lol [20-Aug-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: i have 6 lol [20-Aug-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: are you not producing amm rn? [20-Aug-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I have 24 [20-Aug-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Giobb were both new how are you getting ammonia already? [20-Aug-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: It's going to the exchange immedeatly [20-Aug-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ill take some of that ammonia off your hands @brave [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @DoppyRex you said above that you spent 10K on 200 water, but how is that possible? that's 50 CIS per unit, but that's not what H2O trades at. Did you buy it somewhere other than the CX? [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: its the only thing im producing. i built a collector thinking i need to collect things lol [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhhh okay, because I went with an extractor instead of a collector @giobb [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I figured the rock was more rare and heavy to transport [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Alright. You should have the contract now. [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: UV-351a has atmosphereic ammonia [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: sweet [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: thats why i bought the bse to build extractor and refiner [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I misread H20 as H I think [20-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I built both a collector and an extractor. [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh wow nice [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: because 7 days for 40 amm kinda pissing me off [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I still need to purchase H.CI1 and HE3.CI1 [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @DoppyRex, ah, ok that makes sense. i'm sending you a contract now [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. You're better off only mining GAL on Kat for fuel and then importing the rest of the materials from BEN. [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @BraveCaperCat how much hydrogen are you looking to buy, and do you have PRO? [20-Aug-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I got the collector my first day playing the game, after i got an extractor, refinery and habitation modules. [20-Aug-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: no i don't have a pro licence [20-Aug-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ayyy many thanks @reaper [20-Aug-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: np [20-Aug-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Brave -- ok, no worries [20-Aug-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah im trying to build a collector rn [20-Aug-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: but I need 6 BSE and some MCG I think [20-Aug-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: thank you for the 500 min fuel tip. i sent my ship to benton to pick up my bse 8 hr round trip 1000 fuel burned [20-Aug-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: then no more flying till i figure out my production cuz dang this game has a lot to offer [20-Aug-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: DO NOT BURN THAT MUCH FUEL [20-Aug-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: ABORT THE FLIGHT [20-Aug-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: wait thats a lot of fuel burn my dude [20-Aug-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah abort that [20-Aug-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^^ what they said [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: figured if im making fuel wont be an issue [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Aborting the flight will complete only the current stage of flight. Then redo the flight and crank the fuel burn aaaaall the way down. [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You want to use roughly 100 Fuel for a flight to Benten Station [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Slow is the way to go [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: thats 4 days [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Should be 1 Day 20 is hhours [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: 100 is okay. But if you're not in any particular rush, you can do it with like 70-80 [20-Aug-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Or it is for me [20-Aug-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You want the STL fuel slider all the way to the left and then one or two ticks to the right. [20-Aug-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Anything beyond that you get diminishing returns for your fuel. [20-Aug-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: understood! [20-Aug-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Think of the fuel you burn flying as money lost. [20-Aug-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ^^ [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Even if you make fuel yourself its a loss [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And to be conservative, I normally calculate both SF and FF as 15cis/u. [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: ya thats why i figured instead of slow rolling do a hyper roll to make up [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: So 1000 STL fuel is 15k burned [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh jeez [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **giobb**: welp [20-Aug-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And you have 2 ships to start out with. They will be plenty for the first couple months. [20-Aug-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: In fact, a lot of the time, you'll have one or both of them just lying around waiting. [20-Aug-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: There is unfortunately a mostly slow start with flying [20-Aug-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @eminence sent the Water [20-Aug-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: What I did was used one ship for my base, and the other I sent around picking up shipping contracts. [20-Aug-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Do the math on the shipping contracts though and make sure it's profitable. [20-Aug-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: People under charge a ton for shipping I swear [20-Aug-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @eminence32 * [20-Aug-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you want to be spot on with your fuel costs, click on a planet with a shipyard. In there on the top right there will be a button called blueprints. There's one blueprint in there called like STRT-something. Click view, and then on the top right again there's a simulator you can use to simulate trips with that ship and it will tell you the exact fuel burn. [20-Aug-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: There's a shipyard on Proxion, which is a planet in the system just to the left of UV-351 (where Katoa is) [20-Aug-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: if I buy something from the commodity exchange and I have no ships there, will they hold it for me? [20-Aug-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's a shipyard in this system! [20-Aug-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: There's a shipyard on Yannick [20-Aug-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. You'll find a lot of shipping contracts that pay fk all. But every once in a while, someone gets a little impatient and offers you 10k to ship 500t/m out from BEN to MOR or something. [20-Aug-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah they'll hold it for you till you fufill or you can rent a warehouse and have it moved there. [20-Aug-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oooh, I didn't even know Yannick had a shipyard. [20-Aug-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so the "ask' is what the seller is willing to sell for, and the 'bid' is what the buyer is willing to pay? [20-Aug-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And yes. You can always rent a warehouse to store the stuff. They're cheap at like 100CIS per week for 500t 500m of storage. But if you can't store the stuff, you'll in stead get a contract that you can fulfill once you have the storage either via a new warehouse or a ship that's arrived. [20-Aug-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: @Ramen Yes, that's correct. [20-Aug-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you want to sell or buy instantly you make a contract with a price equal to those. [20-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhhh okay [20-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: otherwise, i have to wait for the market to fluctuate or someone to willingly sell to me? [20-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you fine waiting a while you probably make a sell/buy somewhere in the middle. [20-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: because I just made a bid for 40 less than the cost [20-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I see [20-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: (is there a place to see all my bids??) [20-Aug-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: CXOS [20-Aug-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ahhh I see [20-Aug-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thank you [20-Aug-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: maybe I need to make a screen for the exchange then [20-Aug-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've just realised you can make ships without FTL drives if you just need stuff to haul intra-system [20-Aug-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: True, like a day cab at my work place! (Im a truck driver lol) [20-Aug-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone selling 10 MCG? [20-Aug-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Sure [20-Aug-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got too much [20-Aug-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Sweet hmu [20-Aug-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 29/u I'll match the CX [20-Aug-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: making deals and stuff in this game is really cool. Honestly the base game kinda boring but the ability to interact is cool [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ill take that @doppy [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its got promise which I Like [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Any BSE? [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I have some but was planning on saving it [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: How much would you need? [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: just 8 I think [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2501961bf1** left.* [20-Aug-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: What you building? [20-Aug-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Collector for ammonia [20-Aug-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah [20-Aug-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: That will be the last material I need automated for fuel production, besides H [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Don't build a COL on Kat if you ask me [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Save your money and build more refineries. [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Mine GAL. For newer players, that's worth it. [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But buy AMM and H from the CX. [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: you mean just keep bying the ammonia? [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yes [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh interesting [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: The concentration of AMM on Katoa is terrible. [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unless you think that collecting AMM yourself is fun ;) [20-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Only problem with buying AMM is cargo cap back. [20-Aug-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You'd end up needing tons and tons of collectors to mine the stuff yourself. [20-Aug-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Hmm [20-Aug-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well AMM is the smallest quantity input for SF. [20-Aug-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 1 COL, 1 EXT, 1 REF Only needs Hydrogen input tbf [20-Aug-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It's the H that's a killer really. [20-Aug-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I mean it would leave me only relying on hydrogen [20-Aug-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ammonia fairly cheap tho... hm [20-Aug-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, but 1 EXT and 2 REFs requires just a tiny bit extra GAL which you can buy from the CX, and you make double the SF output, which is your real money maker. [20-Aug-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: true [20-Aug-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Id rely on outside sources more but have more money if I do it right... hm [20-Aug-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: exactly ^^ [20-Aug-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: The ship has arrived. [20-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Just wondering, if i gave someone the transponder code for my ship, would they be able to access ship information for it? [20-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nope [20-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And you won't be able to fill a ship with SF for a little while. The game doesn't give you enough starting capital to set your base up for weeks at a time. But once you can fill your ship with SF, might be worth shipping it out to ANT or MOR in stead of selling it on BEN. SF sells for more there. [20-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Why would you actually use better STL engines they seem to do nothing on the performance metrics? [20-Aug-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Are you looking at the simulator thing? [20-Aug-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah for a blueprint [20-Aug-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: where is ANT and MOR? @silentreaper [20-Aug-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Makes a difference over the longrun and with larger ships. [20-Aug-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you go to the travel tab and look at the map. You'll see 4 exchanges. BEN is in the top right, ANT is bottom left, and MOR is top left. [20-Aug-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: The exchange symbol on the map is like a hexagon. [20-Aug-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Different STL engines change the fuel efficency and can influence the maximum speed. [20-Aug-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @silent ohhh I see [20-Aug-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: im guessing new commodity exchanges are made when groups vote/contribute to it? [20-Aug-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You may need High-G Seats to increase the maximum speed, in combination with the STL engines [20-Aug-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @BraveCaperCat ahh I was like they are not changing the acceleration [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: i think [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: There are other exchanges out int he middle of nowhere, but almost nobody uses those. Most commodities aren't being sold there. It's for later game and the whales in the game. [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay. Whales? [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Oh yeah its the High-G seats [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Are high G seats consumables? [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I've never checked. [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nah ship part [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Okay. I knew they were ship parts. [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh man SF sells for 15.50 on Moria?! [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Wait, High-G seats increase maximum G-Factor which in turn increases maxmium acceleration. [20-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But there's a commodity like high G juice or whatever it is [20-Aug-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [20-Aug-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: But i also increases max speed [20-Aug-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Another thing to consider is ship weight and volume. As you upgrade your ship, it'll either weigh mor, or be more voluminous, which affects STL and FLT fuel burn. A more voluminous ship makes FTL flight more expensive on fuel, whereas weight make STL flight more expensive. [20-Aug-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh interesting [20-Aug-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That's why so many people go with light weight hull parts. It increases the delapidation of your ships, but also significantly reduces your STL fuel burn. [20-Aug-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpoonsNotSporks** joined.* [20-Aug-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: dang SF sells for 15.60 on Antares [20-Aug-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yup [20-Aug-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: About the ship transponders [20-Aug-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: The response was that you can't view the details for my ship even with the transponder code [20-Aug-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But remember that if you're flying there in stead of BEN, fuel will cost you like double or triple what it does to fly to BEN. That's why I said it's probably not worth it to fly out to ANT or MOR with only like 2k SF. The additional profit you make will be less than the additional fuel you have to burn. [20-Aug-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: then it shouldn't matter if i tell everyone that the transponder codes on my ships are AVI-057H9 and AVI-057HA [20-Aug-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah thats fair [20-Aug-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its only worth flying out to ANT or MOR with a full cargo bay [20-Aug-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No, we can't look up your ship transponders. [20-Aug-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: everyone on UV-351a at least [20-Aug-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But Saganaki, another player, made an API for the game. It pulls all the information from the browser and turns it into CSV files, which you can import into google sheets. [20-Aug-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I think wrong chat Reaper? [20-Aug-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: So if you were subscribed to FIO and had the browser extension which checks your game info, if I had your API key, I could look up where your ships were and where they were going etc. [20-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I'm like - Can you use SHP AVI-057H9 if you don't own the ship AVI-057H9? [20-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oh, lol. No [20-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: well im gonna dip but good talking with you folks [20-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I'm not talking about SFC AVI-057H9 [20-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Cya Ramen [20-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Later ramen [20-Aug-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm wondering how viable intra-system hauling ships would be if you had multiple bases in a system. [20-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Not sure what you mean. [20-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ship's without FTL Drives [20-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oh. I think you need to have an FTL drive on every ship. [20-Aug-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** deleted this message.* [20-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** deleted this message.* [20-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got a blueprint here for one without a drive [20-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** deleted this message.* [20-Aug-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. And on a side note here. FTL travel is almost always more efficient than STL travel. For instance. I could jump from Kat to Proxion and then from Proxion to Ben, and it would cost me less and take less time than going straight from Katoa to BEN. [20-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You can remove FTL drives. [20-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: This isn't always the case. It depends where the planets are in relation to one another as that does actually change fuel costs and time. [20-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hm [20-Aug-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But with larger ships especially, and the more heavy ones, doing that makes sense. [20-Aug-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: BUT FF.CI1 is more than SF.CI1 [20-Aug-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you have an idle ship, check how much it costs to jump from Katoa to Proxion [20-Aug-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Costs me 15 FF a min reactor usage. [20-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I have an idle ship, but it is at UV-351 [20-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: station [20-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Works as well [20-Aug-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Just don't click start haha. [20-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Which system is proxion? [20-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: It's not UV-796 [20-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: or KW-020 [20-Aug-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: and UV-072 doesn't have a name [20-Aug-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Just type in proxion, it will come up [20-Aug-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: plus there are no other direct jumps able to be made from UV-351 [20-Aug-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Proxion IS UV-796 [20-Aug-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: but not the star [20-Aug-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: it's UV-796b [20-Aug-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: For me (with maximum fuel usage) The trip from UV-351 (Benten) Station to UV-796b (Proxion) is 3h 31m. It consumes 48 units FTL fuel + 105 units STL fuel. [20-Aug-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: With maximum fuel usage, the trip back to UV-351a (Katoa) from UV-351 (Benten) Station is 250 units STL fuel in 10h 4m. [20-Aug-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: 250 units of STL fuel is how much fuel i have in my ship, so it is biased. [20-Aug-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Using the BTF BP-STRT-0000 command, i can see how long it would take with 1500 units of STL fuel. [20-Aug-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: 2h 19m with 1500 units of STL fuel, but that is many times more costly in actual fuel than the FTL trip. [20-Aug-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And with more cargo, the numbers change even more. Heavy ships loaded with cargo will cost a lot more to fly from Katoa to Ben than from Katoa to Prox and then to Ben. [20-Aug-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: If you look at the universe map, you will se that UV-072 is much closer than UV-796, from UV-351 that is. A trip to UV-072a from UV-351 (Benten) Station would take 602 units STL fuel and 21 units FTL fuel, at maximum fuel usage and no inventory items. That trip would take 1h 35m. [20-Aug-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But you get my point. And if you had a base on Proxion as well, you could make a cheaper and shorter trip and pickup stuff to sell on both bases. [20-Aug-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: *Proxion or another planet in adjoining star systems. [20-Aug-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You should tell the global chat about this. [20-Aug-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I think ppl know [20-Aug-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: or anyone who's been plainy a while [20-Aug-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: playing* [20-Aug-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Global Chat now knows. [20-Aug-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Fear [20-Aug-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** deleted this message.* [20-Aug-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I think Global chat is having a reaction [20-Aug-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf6391d5807** left.* [20-Aug-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arryn** joined.* [20-Aug-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordTulkas** left.* [20-Aug-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, you can use the "BLU" command to do a "test flight" of your ships, to experiment with how things like cargo size impacts travel time and fuel usage [20-Aug-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aandark** joined.* [20-Aug-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Freezerassasin**: I have 10,000 SF available if anyone is looking for it locally. [20-Aug-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: how much do you want for it? [20-Aug-24 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Reaper if you could build war fleets in this game I would think you were stacking up Fuel for one of those at the rate you buy it. [20-Aug-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Freezerassasin**: I'd let it go for 12.10/unit. Send a contract if you are interested @SilentReaper [20-Aug-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sent [20-Aug-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lazzymonk** joined.* [20-Aug-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Lol. Can't buy the stuff fast enough to sell haha. [20-Aug-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hehe [20-Aug-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaik** joined.* [20-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Not_a_knight**: 20,000 PE.CI1 (PPU 8,50) send contract if interested [20-Aug-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You can't accept the contract anyway [20-Aug-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SchrodingerCat** left.* [20-Aug-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kokuyo** left.* [20-Aug-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tyrogue07** joined.* [20-Aug-24 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mnavas** left.* [20-Aug-24 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone selling Ammonia? [21-Aug-24 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: How much do you need? [21-Aug-24 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: For now, like 20 would be sweet [21-Aug-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Got a ship coming in by tomorrow night filled with AMM. I'll send you 100 to keep ya goin for a little while. [21-Aug-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: send me a contract for it. [21-Aug-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ay thanks bro [21-Aug-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh uhhh I dont have pro, can I do that? [21-Aug-24 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh wait maybe I can [21-Aug-24 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: damn I do need pro [21-Aug-24 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: my new job pays well... Maybe I will get pro idk [21-Aug-24 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: oh, yeah. you would need pro. [21-Aug-24 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: without pro or basic, the cx is your only real option as far as i know [21-Aug-24 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: dang [21-Aug-24 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: im guessing you dont have pro either [21-Aug-24 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: If you are in the same corporation, you should be able to recieve in-corporation contracts. I don't know, this is an assumption based on something my friend said. [21-Aug-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: no idea how corporations work lol [21-Aug-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: i do have pro [21-Aug-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh thats pretty cool [21-Aug-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: how much you want for the ammonia? [21-Aug-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: not sure about the corp thin either [21-Aug-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: i was just going to give it to you for free [21-Aug-24 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: its only 100 [21-Aug-24 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh yo, thanks dude *ramen will remember this* [21-Aug-24 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: As quoted from @Snowfzy in my private chat: [21-Aug-24 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Hmm honestly I've been thinking of founding a new corporation, though you're rather far away, lack of Pro shouldn't be a problem since I have that, I can make any contracts for business between the two of us [21-Aug-24 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh thats pretty cool [21-Aug-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Yeah, but only owners of a pro licence can create corporations and contracts. [21-Aug-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: is it better to get COF or PWO? [21-Aug-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh I see I see [21-Aug-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Luckily my friend has a pro licence [21-Aug-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I think ill get pro but like... in a week or two [21-Aug-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: wanna make sure Im gonna be into this game long enough [21-Aug-24 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: COF is better since it is used for building upkeep later - but PWO is used only for workforce upkeep (as a luxury consumable) [21-Aug-24 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: COF is also used for workforce upkeep as a luxury consumable. [21-Aug-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: im like brand new so should I get the PWO? [21-Aug-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Yes, you can do that. It is probably better than the COF early game. [21-Aug-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Or just about the same actually. [21-Aug-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I mean PWO are like 1/3 the price so lol [21-Aug-24 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: is it ever worth underbidding/overasking or is that usually a long-term game? [21-Aug-24 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: It shouldn't matter which you buy, so you should just get the cheapest out of PWO.CI1 and COF.CI1 [21-Aug-24 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: That is long term, but if you are talking about fuels i could start selling them at lower prices. [21-Aug-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** deleted this message.* [21-Aug-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I already have 500 STL Fuel (SF.CI1) stored on my base. [21-Aug-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Lowering the prices a little shouldn't hurt. [21-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay so if I want something sooner, bidding closer to the ask price is the way [21-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: or immediately if I bid the exact ask price [21-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Have you checked PRUN or anything to see if the COF is worth it for what you are producing? [21-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Prun? [21-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: https://prunplanner.org/ {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/ PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [21-Aug-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh whaaaat [21-Aug-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: You can plan out base builds and stuff, its a bit confusing at first but very handy. [21-Aug-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thats so cool [21-Aug-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thanks [21-Aug-24 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: NP cutting out COF for me is a reduction of like 14% efficiency so its really a matter of is that 14% worth the 685 [21-Aug-24 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thats a good point thank you [21-Aug-24 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Did you get the AMM to get your production going again? [21-Aug-24 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: nah reaper was gonna give me some but never responded [21-Aug-24 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: His ship is coming in tomorrow night i think he said so just a wait time [21-Aug-24 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh true [21-Aug-24 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Just sent 20 to at least get you going [21-Aug-24 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh yooo thank you! [21-Aug-24 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Now I can make more fuel lol [21-Aug-24 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: NP! If you need H eminence32 and myself sell H to new people for 75/H to help get going as well [21-Aug-24 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yo thanks, eminence already sold me a lot tho! [21-Aug-24 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Perfect! [21-Aug-24 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Oh, i could use some hydrogen! [21-Aug-24 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Well now that I can make stuff, the folks here recommended I get a second refinery, should I just buy the construction pieces on the CX? [21-Aug-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If someone has them avail, you can check the LM / post an ad [21-Aug-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: the construction pieces? Ah but I dont have pro so... [21-Aug-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: The UFO discord is also a decent place i hear [21-Aug-24 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I'm about to look into the construction materials business soon, so i should be able to get some stuff to make my second refinery, extractor and collector. [21-Aug-24 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yo thats pretty cool @brave [21-Aug-24 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I did construction when I started a long time ago... A bit too complex for a newbie lol [21-Aug-24 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***julenlele** left.* [21-Aug-24 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I started as a fuel engineer. I think it's profitable and easy to set up, but not very expandable (only 4 possible production orders, 1 not even related to the industry). Construction Materials is more complex, easily expandable and it makes setting up other industries easier. [21-Aug-24 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah true, if I did it again I would probably branch out that way [21-Aug-24 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: well... I mean I am doing it again so... lol [21-Aug-24 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Actually i haven't set up any buildings for producing construction materials yet, i still need more money to purchase materials for those buildings. [21-Aug-24 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh gotcha gotcha [21-Aug-24 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If you go BMP you have lots of options and you get the COGC bonus [21-Aug-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: cogc bonus? [21-Aug-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: No i'm going with BMP+PP1 [21-Aug-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I was considering BMP after fuels! [21-Aug-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: A bit of self sustaining power [21-Aug-24 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: man... now I wonder what industries Ill branch off into... [21-Aug-24 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: well I should probably get this second refinery going hahaha [21-Aug-24 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Even just having MGS or C being converted in a BMP is profit, usually [21-Aug-24 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thats pretty sweet [21-Aug-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: COGC bonus is voted on for the planet, Katoa has Manufacturing right now. [21-Aug-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah i see [21-Aug-24 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: wait no one is selling BBH on Benten CX? dang that seems like a missed opportunity [21-Aug-24 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Well, i'll be changing that soon. [21-Aug-24 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohoho [21-Aug-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: hm unless they just keep getting bought out tho [21-Aug-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Someone IS selling BBH. The Market Maker is. [21-Aug-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so im willing to wait 8 hours to send my ships back home from the CX, should I but BBH at bid price... or ask? [21-Aug-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: well yeah I meant no players [21-Aug-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Except for the fact that the MM isn't a someone. [21-Aug-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeahhhh [21-Aug-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Actually the MM is also buying BBH [21-Aug-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: ??? [21-Aug-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: At a low price, but still. [21-Aug-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah dont they do selling and buying for both usually? at least basic good? [21-Aug-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: NPC will always sell basic stuff [21-Aug-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: world had to start somewhere haha [21-Aug-24 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: true hahaha [21-Aug-24 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: okay so I think Ill try bid price, then in 8 hours when I need the ships to move Ill just go for ask if theres no sale. [21-Aug-24 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: The MM buys hydrogen but doesn't sell any [21-Aug-24 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: But it sells the stuff to get H [21-Aug-24 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: the stuff to get H? [21-Aug-24 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: whats that again [21-Aug-24 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: MM will always sell stuff like BSE, BBH, BDE and MCG cause you need them for all the buildings to get started on the starter planets [21-Aug-24 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhhh ok [21-Aug-24 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: good for folks who got the starting cash from the tutorial contracts (Me lol) [21-Aug-24 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Then on other planets you need stuff like INS and thats only made by players [21-Aug-24 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I noticed some really complex items dont have many buyers... are they still profitable? [21-Aug-24 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Well you are also setup with stuff to make a couple buildinds too [21-Aug-24 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I was able to make a refiner and an extractor and 2 habs [21-Aug-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Nice [21-Aug-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Whats a good industry to look into after Ive gotten pretty far with fuel? [21-Aug-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Profit always depends but i doubt most will sell at a loss, or at least they shouldnt [21-Aug-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ah well thats good [21-Aug-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shilerhobbs** deleted this message.* [21-Aug-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah too many losses means death [21-Aug-24 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i never build or touch fuel production but since SF use H then maybe make PE? [21-Aug-24 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: whats PE? lol [21-Aug-24 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i think Fuel industries is an eclosed production with very few overlap with other industry so you'll start blind, NOTE i never build or maintain fuel production [21-Aug-24 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah its fairly enclosed from what I can tell [21-Aug-24 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: our production machines do not many ANYTHING but fuel lol [21-Aug-24 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: Poly-Etheline, it's a plastic made with BMP (manifacture(same COGC with katao)) that can be used to make OVE an BTA and BDE [21-Aug-24 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh okat cool [21-Aug-24 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I do think it would be cool to make spaceships... But I cant imagine that being very cheap lol [21-Aug-24 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: or feesable at the start [21-Aug-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: BMP uses Pioneers (mean cheap to get and maintain workers), part of manifacture industry (which is what COGC that Katoa alwase maintain), to made PE wich use 2 H and 1 C (you just gotta source more H and C) [21-Aug-24 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Thats interesting a lot of people say BMP is good so maybe Ill go after that in the future [21-Aug-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: yea.. ship parts need fancy industry need fancy materials to maintain, provide for fancy jobs with their fancy foods, and produce fancy parts that need fancy resourcess [21-Aug-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ah I see, not soon for me then lol [21-Aug-24 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: tho buiding WEL is a start!, i think it's the cheapest industry thats needed to make ship parts :D [21-Aug-24 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: but I can build up to that... [21-Aug-24 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: gotcha [21-Aug-24 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: if you really want to make ship parts, i would suggest you to join a big corp and join their ship production line [21-Aug-24 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah this game is super cool, is there anything irl like it? FIgured if I like this enough might as well make money lol [21-Aug-24 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh true, it would be easier in a group huh [21-Aug-24 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: dunno bout irl, but if there are probbly need high education lvl and/or know right people :p [21-Aug-24 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yeah... Which I dont have lol [21-Aug-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: xD [21-Aug-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I play so many production and logistic business games I sometimes feel like Im missing out on something irl lol [21-Aug-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: but then I wonder if its only fun for me in a game and irl I would hate it [21-Aug-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: there will be Gate tecnology coming up, probbly will be much much more expensive than ship production (: [21-Aug-24 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: OH I heard of that! Like warp gates? [21-Aug-24 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: yea.. failing in game at worse would be CONTD and start over.. [21-Aug-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah lol [21-Aug-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: yea! idk if it's warp gates or jump gates or something similiar but it will have their own special fuel! [21-Aug-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: also game is usually more rewarding and consistent [21-Aug-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I like factorio, a lot, but would I like designing factories irl? No clue [21-Aug-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I wish I could job shadow someone who does operations management or industrial engineering but I have no connections or education lol [21-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: or some other way to see if I like a job before I realllly get into it [21-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i bet it will be VERY stressfull and you would'nt have much "me time" as your me time is work time [21-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeahhhhh thats my worry [21-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ive realized that I NEED me time [21-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: no matter how much I like the job [21-Aug-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I love my job now, but I cant wait to get a senior position to be able to work less more consistently [21-Aug-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: buy hey! you get more money you can spend! some people like that soo [21-Aug-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I have plenty of money rn so thats no big deal [21-Aug-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: not that im against more... [21-Aug-24 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ironically, it would be funny if I got a big factory designing job and then wondered "Man... I wish I had more time for factorio" LOL [21-Aug-24 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: factorio dont have string attached xD [21-Aug-24 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah thats totally true [21-Aug-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: No bosses, schedules, expectations from customers, educational needs, danger, complex tasks [21-Aug-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: all fun and bug killing [21-Aug-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: until a group of bug take a nibble on your Iron mines xD [21-Aug-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I do think it would be cool to produce something consistent and sell it [21-Aug-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: lol yeah my friend and I are having a huge problem with that now [21-Aug-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: were playing a world where the resources are super spread out [21-Aug-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: entrepreneur? [21-Aug-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: what about entrepreneur? [21-Aug-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i just thought like those on youtube short, where they made stuff and send it to buyer on online shop, it's like a flash game or something [21-Aug-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: a game? [21-Aug-24 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: nvm lol [21-Aug-24 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh okay lol [21-Aug-24 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: man I have a weird as hell life lol [21-Aug-24 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @RamenTheKId you should have a month of Pro I think with your supporter tier. [21-Aug-24 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I think I used it a while back on my first profile [21-Aug-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah [21-Aug-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you look in the top right what's next to your LIC [21-Aug-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I had the game at launch but didnt get far lol [21-Aug-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Basic [21-Aug-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Alright [21-Aug-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You can accept contracts but can't make them unfortunately then. [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: without pro? [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: With Basic [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: oh. [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: basic is "used to be pro" right? [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah ive been accepting contracts left and right hahah [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Better than Free, but less than Pro [21-Aug-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Basic is if your pro licence ends. [21-Aug-24 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: It's free after your pro licence has expired [21-Aug-24 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: not free licence, free cost [21-Aug-24 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I thought that what you said meant that i could accept contracts directed at me (but not contracts on the local market) [21-Aug-24 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [21-Aug-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: im thinking of leveraging some of my extra cash and time to under bid on the market, should I get a warehouse rental? [21-Aug-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: (And is underbidding and waiting for goods to go on sale even worth it? lol) [21-Aug-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: No. [21-Aug-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Not unless you want to wait forever for someone to under sell the goods. [21-Aug-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay I kinda figured that was for someone with a lot of money to spare, and hence time [21-Aug-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thank you for the warning lol [21-Aug-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: And NO ONE will undersell a commodity like SF.CI1 [21-Aug-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I already made that mistake. I even accidently bought from CI2 [21-Aug-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: . [21-Aug-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: dang [21-Aug-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I cancled the order before anyone fufilled it. [21-Aug-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: But i needed the help of GLOBAL chat [21-Aug-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I never have made such a mistake since. [21-Aug-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thinking of moving my ship back to base but its barely full, anything I should buy while im here at CX? [21-Aug-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Luxury items, Construction Materials and ingredients for your production processes. [21-Aug-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Hmm [21-Aug-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Also basic consumables if nessacary. [21-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I got enough stuff for my new refinery and upkeep rn [21-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: but for construction... Anything I should consider getting next? [21-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: The construction materials could be used for obtaining a second Extractor + Collector pair. [21-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: (assuming you have a first Extractor + Collector pair) [21-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I actually do not have a collector, I was advised against it [21-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Why? [21-Aug-24 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: said ammonia was too low on this planet, though I really only need 1 ammonia per fuel cycle so... [21-Aug-24 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: A collector can be used to obtain Ammonia, used for fuel. Yes, it might be a bad ratio but it's worth it. [21-Aug-24 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I was kinda thinking that too [21-Aug-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I think I need more pioneers tho... let me check [21-Aug-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: but wouldnt hurt to get the pieces I suppose [21-Aug-24 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I need 110 more pioneers and only have 79, should I get habs first? [21-Aug-24 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: And the nearest ammonia to UV-351a is UV-351d which is quite far. It does have a much better ratio, but the cost of a base there is much greater than the sufficent collector on UV-351a [21-Aug-24 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohh true true [21-Aug-24 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Of course, Ammonia in an adjacent system would have faster access. [21-Aug-24 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im cool with a collector lol [21-Aug-24 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: :) [21-Aug-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so im thinking refinery 2 > Pioneer hab > Collector, in that order? [21-Aug-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im fine buying ammonia for now [21-Aug-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: How many HB1 do you have? [21-Aug-24 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You should need only 2 for Collector + Extractor + Refinery since that's what i have. [21-Aug-24 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im getting a second refinery, was recommended to rush having 2 since I can buy the ingredients [21-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Right now I have 2 Habs, an Extractor, and a refinery [21-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: My plan is to increase that to 4 HB1 and double up my Collector + Extractor + Refinery so i have 2 of each. Plus 1 HB2 [21-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Also i thought you were talking about HB1 not HB2 [21-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: HB2 for settlers yeah? [21-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh my bad lol [21-Aug-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So thats fine right, me getting a 2nd refinery before I get a collector? [21-Aug-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: A new refinery costs a lot in construction but is probably worth getting. [21-Aug-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I already have the parts thanks to loans and contracts from you generous folks :? [21-Aug-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: :> [21-Aug-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: and a collector isnt too expensive at all. The hab might be tho [21-Aug-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I would build a second refinery before you do anything else [21-Aug-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Do note that you need PT.CI1 and EXO.CI1 to fufill the needs of settlers. [21-Aug-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I dont think I have settlers rn [21-Aug-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Neither do i [21-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh lol [21-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: But you need the PT.CI1 and EXO.CI1 for settlers. [21-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: okay cool so Ill do refinery number 2 next, thanks folks! [21-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Like how you need OVE.CI1 RAT.CI1 and DW.CI1 for pioneers (and likely settlers also) [21-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Till you get your 3rd refinery You don't need a HB2 [21-Aug-24 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah ok [21-Aug-24 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: you don't NEED a HB2 but it makes refineries (and other settler buildings) more efficent [21-Aug-24 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Refinery #2, new Hab1, Collector. Got it. [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah I was wondering about that, since it was a settler building [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: You WANT a HB2 as soon as you've made a refinery. [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nope [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: maybe after the collector I will [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: HB2 efficency is allowed to drop [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: eh? [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Until you get 3 Ref [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh [21-Aug-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The efficency drop from no HB2 is less than building a new ref [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: No you want a HB2 as soon as you have a Refinery. [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: More efficent to build another Refinery first. [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Gives a bigger profit margin [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: 0.0 [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and you don't need to worry about input for settlers then [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Check in Prunner [21-Aug-24 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: okay [21-Aug-24 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and before you build a HB2 I would get a consistent supply of PWO and COF [21-Aug-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay noted [21-Aug-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so again: [21-Aug-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Refinery 2, HB1, Collector, HB2? [21-Aug-24 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: or do I even need collector and can just import the ammonia and Hydrogen? [21-Aug-24 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Eh Collector is up to you. If you have free cargo space on imports still with 2 Ref I would skip it, if you don't maybe build it. [21-Aug-24 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I do, a LOT of space and I bought a week of needs already [21-Aug-24 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: (needs as in resources and consumables) [21-Aug-24 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I would do Ref 2, HB1, Ref 1, (Lux Pioneers), HB2 [21-Aug-24 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: (Wait whats ref 1?) [21-Aug-24 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: (1 Refinery) [21-Aug-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: (Why would I build ref 1 after ref 2? Im confused lol) [21-Aug-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Fuel Refining Build order: [21-Aug-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Build 2 Refineries, then Build a new HB1, then build another Refinery, then build a HB2 [21-Aug-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: CM (Build Base) [21-Aug-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhhh lol [21-Aug-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You've already built one of the first refineries. [21-Aug-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah [21-Aug-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: So its actually build 1 Refinery, then build a HB1, then build another Refinery then build a HB2 [21-Aug-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But before HB2 make sure your importing PWO and COF [21-Aug-24 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: > Extractor > Refinery > Collector > Refinery 2 > HB2 > Extractor 2 > Collector 2 > Move on to another industry [21-Aug-24 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: can do [21-Aug-24 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: wait so which order should I take 0.o [21-Aug-24 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its just a question of what you want to import [21-Aug-24 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Follow Brave's if you don't want to import AMM and GAL [21-Aug-24 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: PWO and COF increase the efficency of Pioneers. [21-Aug-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: im fine importing ammonia and hydrogen for now, its fairly cheap and easy to transport yeah? [21-Aug-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Together the pioneers become roughly 100% efficent. (at pioneer jobs, Extractors and Collectors.) [21-Aug-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [21-Aug-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If your fine with importing you mostly want to build refineries to increase your output of SF [21-Aug-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Cool stuff, thanks folks :) [21-Aug-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: SF do be my money maker [21-Aug-24 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: and helps transport too [21-Aug-24 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Anyway I'm off to work for 8 hours. [21-Aug-24 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: cya dude thanks [21-Aug-24 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Yay now you can properly get Settlers! [21-Aug-24 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: before making your 3rd refinery [21-Aug-24 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: CM (Build Base) > Extractor > Refinery > Collector > Refinery 2 > HB2 > Extractor 2 > Collector 2 > Move on to another industry [21-Aug-24 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BeardedWonder** left.* [21-Aug-24 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Montza** left.* [21-Aug-24 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cnhehir** left.* [21-Aug-24 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sagan** joined.* [21-Aug-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Myrc** left.* [21-Aug-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lawngnome72** left.* [21-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***atlantisrising169** joined.* [21-Aug-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thorstenbr** joined.* [21-Aug-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6f4f2ea506** left.* [21-Aug-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***linyu** left.* [21-Aug-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quadriad** left.* [21-Aug-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talakzuul** joined.* [21-Aug-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreadchicken675** joined.* [21-Aug-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***10_e24** joined.* [21-Aug-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: Hmmmmm [21-Aug-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NikoNi**: I wonder if making your own prefabs would be worth it. [21-Aug-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***10_e24** left.* [21-Aug-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, it can be worth it [21-Aug-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i make a bunch of B-fabs and L-fabs on gibson [21-Aug-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It can be in my opinion. But requires some peripheral infrastructure to be really worth it. Transporting FE is a huge limiting factor for PP1s. AL on the other hand is a lot lighter, and not more expensive to produce yourself. It's just more expensive on the CX because it's a lot more useful. So I would say having an AL base to feed your fabs is if not a must, a should have. Build a couple PP1s for BDEs, as the PG recipe for them in PP2s is simply not worth it in my opinion, but then PP2s is the way to go. Also makes you a lot more flexible as you can now produce L fabs when you need to as well, like eminence said. [21-Aug-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UQK** joined.* [21-Aug-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UQK**: hi [21-Aug-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hi! [21-Aug-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Welcome [21-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: New construction planet in the BEN system, come join the few people on Yannick :) high tier pops supported [21-Aug-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ooh Water [21-Aug-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***infinitespy** left.* [21-Aug-24 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: My workers like water. [21-Aug-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 1h 57minutes before I can actually fly my ship again [21-Aug-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: My workers are partial to clothes. We're a modest community. Nudity is frowned upon. OVE's are a must have. [21-Aug-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AimBerger** left.* [21-Aug-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf0624ed825** left.* [21-Aug-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm, i didn't realized yannick was a construction planet [21-Aug-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DietChoke** left.* [21-Aug-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vallejo** joined.* [21-Aug-24 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yannick is a bit of a tough ask when Gibson is right around the corner and Yannick needs SEA and INS. [21-Aug-24 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But I support building out UV-351. Brin in that business. [21-Aug-24 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: true, but i've already got a construction base on gibson, so yannick might be a plausible second construction base [21-Aug-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: mmmm, could be then. Nike is not THAT far from here. And if you have AL bases on like Giedi Prime, Yannick is a little closer than Nike. [21-Aug-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And Yannick is right next to the CX. Plenty of cheap PE if you don't produce it yourself. [21-Aug-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Heya, anyone selling GAL? [21-Aug-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: I can spare a bit for you, how much do you need? [21-Aug-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Come and join us on Yannick! [21-Aug-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am making ship parts on Yannick - eventually :-) . It takes time to make fabs and build. [21-Aug-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all ya gotta do is offer each new settler their own ship, and the planet will be filled up in no time ;) [21-Aug-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaisteR** left.* [22-Aug-24 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***d1ss3nt** joined.* [22-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I'm selling GAL. But if you're on this chat, you already have a good source. [22-Aug-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: (But i don't have a pro licence so only on GAL.CI1) [22-Aug-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cubic** joined.* [22-Aug-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beige** left.* [22-Aug-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone selling Galerite? I only need like 5 [22-Aug-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'll do 5 for you [22-Aug-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 110/u [22-Aug-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ill do that @doppy [22-Aug-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ill take more if you got it [22-Aug-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'll do 20 if you need? [22-Aug-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah Ill take 20 [22-Aug-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Sent [22-Aug-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: got it, thank you! [22-Aug-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ill need to buy some galerite for... idk, 2 days? so If anyone has any more lmk! [22-Aug-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: How much do you need for 2 days [22-Aug-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: How many refineries you running? [22-Aug-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaybeAEuropean** joined.* [22-Aug-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaybeAEuropean**: Hey guys, Is the price showcasaed on the Orderbook per unit or total? [22-Aug-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Wdym on the order book? [22-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaybeAEuropean**: When you want to buy on the CX [22-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaybeAEuropean**: The prices are per unit right? [22-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yes [22-Aug-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaybeAEuropean**: Thanks :) [22-Aug-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***t0x1cv3n0m26** left.* [22-Aug-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RemedyHearts** left.* [22-Aug-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thurian** left.* [22-Aug-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user31af60cfca** left.* [22-Aug-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the planets are not well aligned at the moment :( umbra is so far away right now [22-Aug-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paptarika** left.* [22-Aug-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buff-Bambi** joined.* [22-Aug-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***P.I.M.P.** left.* [22-Aug-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tobybal027** left.* [22-Aug-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeoDeo** left.* [22-Aug-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: tis the way of life eminen [22-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: kinda shocked no one is buying SF off the LM... anyone alive out there? [22-Aug-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Hows it going today folks [22-Aug-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm off selling fuel to MOR [22-Aug-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Got 2 ships runnning it [22-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: nice [22-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i make my own fuel, so i don't really pay attention to people selling fuel on the LM. your prices are below CX, but not far enough below to be worth buying it here and reselling at the CX [22-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I see SF is going for more at the CX [22-Aug-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: woah I didnt realize you could buy things at local for less and sell them to the CX hmmm [22-Aug-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hard to find deals in a system with a CX though [22-Aug-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yeah I was wondering about that [22-Aug-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: how do you fairly price shipping costs? [22-Aug-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I know its at least to cover cost of fuel and ship damages, but what else? [22-Aug-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It has to be worth the time too. If you're going small load to CX, or CX to CX, you could probably get away with a lighter payout because the "risk" of getting to the destination and not having an opportunity to run something else is small. If your shipping out to BFE, you're going to need to fork up some cash in the even the return trip is empty. [22-Aug-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Unfortunately to fairly price it you have to do it by ton/m^3 which is hard when different goods sell for different amounts with different space. 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[23-Aug-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I just started, I don't havce a single scrap to give [23-Aug-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: They skipped this part of gameplay in the tutorial, kind of frustrating actually [23-Aug-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: normally the government of a planet takes care of this, so most people don't need to pay attention to COGC upkeep [23-Aug-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: so why does our Government suck then? [23-Aug-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they don't suck, they just missed the last bit of materials [23-Aug-24 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Yeah, I guess that was unfair, especially since I don't even really know how any of this really works [23-Aug-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: FYI, every 10 days, it costs about 300k CIS worth of materials to keep the COGC funded. [23-Aug-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: πŸ˜… yeah I just slid the sliders all the way when I filled it and didn't realize I was short some MCG at the time. filled now. thanks for the help @eminence32 just send me a contract and I'll pay you for what you put in, name your price [23-Aug-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: when I'm in a position to help, how would I have contributed? [23-Aug-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: so, whoever the Governor is has to contribute all of that out of their own pocket? [23-Aug-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: open PLI UV-351a, and then click "CHamber of Global Commerece" and then click the "Contribute" button at the bottom [23-Aug-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you are absolutely *not* expected to contribute to this [23-Aug-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: but does the Governor have to contribute out of their own pocket? [23-Aug-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the government raises taxes [23-Aug-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: like Eminence said, it's really the responsibility of the government, me, to make sure it's filled. if I slip up though feel free to ping me here or on discord. and if there's a strike and you can fill it, click on 'chamber of global commerce' on the planet info screen (or buffer 'COGC UV-351a') then click contribute, then there are sliders you can fill needs with if you have them on the planet. [23-Aug-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this is the "production fee" you pay every time your make something, or the weekly warehouse fees you pay (if you rent a warehouse) [23-Aug-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Ok... so taxes buy the goods that run the planet... makes sense, and I like that mechanic now that I understand it [23-Aug-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yep. if this happens because I mess up i will reimburse you. nobody is expected to donate anything. that's what your taxes are for [23-Aug-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Funny though, the taxes here ar so much lower than in EVE Online... so I'm not sure that contributing would be bothersome lol [23-Aug-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Sorry Governor... I didn't mean to critiscize before I understood. [23-Aug-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: typically the governments of big planets like katoa have their own agreements with producers, so they don't have to buy stuff at market prices. CptColeslaw happens to run a very large corporation that produces a lot of stuff, so he doesn't actually have to pay market rates. this helps keeps taxes down [23-Aug-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Fascinating [23-Aug-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I really am learning a lot here... and I don't normally talk in chat hahaha [23-Aug-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD no worries @Aandark , not trusting the government is a sentiment I understand, no hard feelings, lol [23-Aug-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marmaduke** joined.* [23-Aug-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: The reoccurring button works!?! [23-Aug-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Praise the lord. [23-Aug-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hahaha [23-Aug-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: was I wrong to start with fuel production? It seems so slow going to start. [23-Aug-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Fuel is a grind. The money will come, but it is not an easy start. Volume is how you'll make money, but it usually takes some time unless you get a loan. [23-Aug-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I started online gaming by playing WOW... grinding i can do lol [23-Aug-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: You'll do fine then. It's super repetitive at the beginning. [23-Aug-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I must really like this game already... I keep running back to the computer to check my timers lol [23-Aug-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a *lot* of people get their start with fuel production on katoa [23-Aug-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and yes, it's very fun to just watch timers count down and inventory count up :) [23-Aug-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @aandark the addiction begins lol [23-Aug-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: lol [23-Aug-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: kinda has a similar vibe to factorio, for me [23-Aug-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: although factorio is... oh boy, in terms of addiction if prosperous universe is a nicotine patch, factorio is heroin lololol [23-Aug-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: For me, this game is the best parts of EVE without having to worry about getting jumped and shot [23-Aug-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh good! I had interest in Eve but avoided it for those exact reasons. glad to see that is the case [23-Aug-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Also, I see youre new to the game @aandark, I am too lol [23-Aug-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: how you been enjoying the game so far? [23-Aug-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: @Ramenthekid So far I really enjoy it. Im glad it's slow going at the start, it sort of saves me from making huge mistakes and ruining my game hahaha [23-Aug-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh same, lots to take in at first but it at least is kind enough to be slow haha [23-Aug-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I think in about 4-5 days, I'll be able to afford a couple of new structures lol [23-Aug-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: nice! Im guessing you went with fuel to start? [23-Aug-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Yes, I feel like this might be a slower start than some but I can already see that there is a possibility to make money from the Ammonia, Oxygen, and Galerite... so I think after I grow, I'll be financially stable [23-Aug-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Its a slow burn lads - just stick with it - keep investigating all aspects of the game. Stuff starts to click and make sense after a bit - and you can never do anything you cannot recover from - in time [23-Aug-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Ah I get that, I started off with construction in a previous game... Fuel is much easier imo and I am much further now. And hey, if you got any extra GAL ill gladly buy it off ya [23-Aug-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @impregnate funny name lol. Also thats good to know, was worried ytou could easily bankrupt urself [23-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gamer_dog**: Bankrupt is my middle name [23-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: You can get stuck in a hole - but just work out how to dig yourself out... then you learn [23-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thats good [23-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I guess even if things go to crap, you always have your buildings? [23-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Is there a website or wiki that tells the makeup of all of the planets? [23-Aug-24 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @aandark I second this question, that would be sweet if there was such a thing [23-Aug-24 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Top right -> Help - Handbook [23-Aug-24 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: system map in BASE SCRN - click the planets [23-Aug-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah but is there a way to lookup "all planets in the game with Hydrogen" or something? [23-Aug-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Universe map on START Screen [23-Aug-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: You can investigate them by clicking on them - zoom in and out... the universe is evolving all the time [23-Aug-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gwyn0** left.* [23-Aug-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah so you gotta just look urself, I see lol [23-Aug-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: How is it evolving? [23-Aug-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Universe map - find you sector, click on planet and system planets - ores etc pop out [23-Aug-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: People are exploring and uncovering planet data all the time [23-Aug-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so can old planets change resources or is it just new planets? [23-Aug-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: I think resources are fixed - hower the amount can fluctuate [23-Aug-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay [23-Aug-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: e.g. I've noticed fertility of soil on my home planet shifts about [23-Aug-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so how do new planets and systems get uncovered? [23-Aug-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: You pick contracts to explore and you get paid for it by governing bodies [23-Aug-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah interesting [23-Aug-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thats cool, that way if a ton of new players join they can have empty planets to colonize too [23-Aug-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: thats right.. theres loads out there [23-Aug-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: If they could put Hydrogen and Helium on the same planet, I'd appreciate that!! Lmao [23-Aug-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: your initail base should be on a recommended planet - but after that you can setup a base on another planet to harvest stuff you dont have etc [23-Aug-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeahhhh [23-Aug-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @aandark what do you need helium for? [23-Aug-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah @impreg thats why im here on katoa haha [23-Aug-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I was assuming that HE-3 was some byproduct of Helium [23-Aug-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhhh that, gotcha [23-Aug-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I was told FTL fuel wasnt very profitable unfortunately [23-Aug-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: click on trading screen - then click on the resource - it tells you what it goes into [23-Aug-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: at least with how the market is atm [23-Aug-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: FF: 14.8 SF: 13.4 [23-Aug-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah SF is more profitable atm [23-Aug-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I still wanna make FF for myself tho [23-Aug-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: HE is an input in the hull welding plant. HE3 is for fuel. [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Ohhh, I need a mineral for HE-s not actual Helium, thanks for that trading screern tip [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: He-3 [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ahhh yeah [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: HE2 [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: He3* lol [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I have no idea how to get HE3 lol [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: You need to get your resource engines running to support yourself firstly, get more faction points by taking a daily contract - build up your funds - start doing stuff [23-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: apparently you extract it from a mineral [23-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so is there any industry that is just BAD to get into, likeunless youre a business god, its a bad idea? [23-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: 3TS->2HE3 @ REF [23-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhhh those 3 government contracts are daily? [23-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: or you get it at a gas planet [23-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: You can make HE3 in a refinery - but must get some NAB first - buy this with contract money at the nearest space station [23-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: daily yes [23-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Gotcha [23-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh good! Glad to hear they are daily, I guess thats how some more money gets into the system, sweet [23-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: SORRY!! You need TS not NAB [23-Aug-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: plus gives newbies something to do [23-Aug-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: lol all good impreg, I wasnt gonna do HE3 stuff for a bit [23-Aug-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: but a word of warning - your workers need to be happy - keep them filled up with coffee and rations etc - otherwise your worker get upset and production tanks [23-Aug-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: In your building screen clcik on WORKFORCE and check you have the required consumables for them [23-Aug-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Happy workers - fast production [23-Aug-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I got my dudes hooked on those padded overalls and coffee infusions lol [23-Aug-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: :) [23-Aug-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: does happier worker mean faster production, or more production? [23-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: % output increases - more in less time created [23-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: wait so... both? [23-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So youre saying happy workers make more and in less time? [23-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: you get more in less time [23-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh woah thats nice [23-Aug-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thought it was just a time bonus, sweet [23-Aug-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: If something they require goes empty - the time ramps up [23-Aug-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: My workers need to understand that coffee costs money lol [23-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Bloody unions :) [23-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah coffee aint cheap, if you can only get one luxury good get Padded overalls [23-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so youre saying unhappy workers can make... lets say... 5 H in 2 Days, but happy workers will make 10 H in 1 day???\ [23-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: the more contracts you take - over time the more money you will get - just keep slogging away [23-Aug-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Jeez... these guys want coffee, the settlers are coming ant they want kambucha and power tools lol [23-Aug-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: No - the 10 will just take longer [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ahhhh okay [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Give them everything they need as a priority - keep them happy [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so its 5 H in 1 day instead, yeah? [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: effectivley [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: will they use the padded overalls instead of regular... or do I need both? [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay, so its just a time bonus. Which is still pretty sweet [23-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: both @aandark [23-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: both - check the columns in WORFORCE button on base widget [23-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: yeah, I was just looking at it, was hoping they'd replace the regular with the padded [23-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Too posh for mere Pioneers [23-Aug-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: lol [23-Aug-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah lol [23-Aug-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: One day I'll have enough for a basic material plant... make my own overall, sock and hats etc :) [23-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: They want socks and hats too?? the nerve [23-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: You know you have really started the game when you start to contribute small amounts to your home planets infrastructure etc [23-Aug-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: lolol socks and hats [23-Aug-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Just keep food on your table early game - the rest will naturally slot in [23-Aug-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone need anything from Benten Station back to Katoa within 2 days? [23-Aug-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Gonna be sending my ship back tonight [23-Aug-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: I always have one ship on station and one at base... seems to work OK [23-Aug-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I take it thats a no lol [23-Aug-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Do you have them swap places constantly? [23-Aug-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Yep - unless theres an exploration contrat... but then I default back to that [23-Aug-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I see... I feel like I should space out my travels tho, to make the most of my selling [23-Aug-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** deleted this message.* [23-Aug-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ay nice! [23-Aug-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: In 8h 10m i will have the money nessacary to buy the materials nessacary to construct a Prefab Plant MK1 and Basic Materials Plant. [23-Aug-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: thats amazing well done - hard work paid off [23-Aug-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @brave trying to get into construction stuff? [23-Aug-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Kind of, after moving into the construction parts industry i might move into metalurgy. [23-Aug-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oooh nice [23-Aug-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im still wondering what my next endeavor will be [23-Aug-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I see theres H on Umbra, but is it worth it to me to build a base there JUST to get that? Im not sure... [23-Aug-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: My next build will be barracks - get the workforce requirements levelled off - then I'm thinkinn BMP [23-Aug-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: @Ramenthekid take a look at Gibson, that has a pretty interesting selection' [23-Aug-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: not really. [23-Aug-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Currently I have: collector - Extractor - Farmstead - Food Processor -Hydroponics Farm - Refinery and a Rig [23-Aug-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Better to go out of the system. [23-Aug-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: especially to an adjacent system. [23-Aug-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I would think if you're looking for items to complete a chain, then in system woulkd be the smarter choice... less travel between deliveries [23-Aug-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: I'm contemplating doubling up on either collectors, Extractors or rigs as next move to generate some good money [23-Aug-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: about how many things can you build on a base before you're out of room? [23-Aug-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: If choosing an adjacent system for hydrogen, i would reccomend KW-020f [23-Aug-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: But just realized you cannot double up on collectors etc :( [23-Aug-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: @BlueHeeler, I'm pretty low tech... almost Amish in fact [23-Aug-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You can get as many collectors as you want. They stack up. [23-Aug-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: at least in this game lol [23-Aug-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Not for ever... [23-Aug-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yoooooo I over asked to sell my fuel and someone bought it all lets goooooo [23-Aug-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Ahhh saw that doubling up is possible - just need the bloody BSE... expensive.. [23-Aug-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: How much did you sell it for? [23-Aug-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @impreg where's Gibson [23-Aug-24 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: nvm I found it [23-Aug-24 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yooooo gibson slaps [23-Aug-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I could purchas enough materials for a Basic Materials Plant or Prefab Plant MK1 right now, but not both and i am waiting on completing a production order for a contract to make enough money to purchase enough BBH for both. I already have enough BDE and BSE for both. [23-Aug-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: yeah, there's a few resources on it lol [23-Aug-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: is there a way to calculate fuel costs before like... sending my ships lol [23-Aug-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: BLU command. Press the test button on the blueprint in the menu. [23-Aug-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: aha! Thank you oh wow [23-Aug-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So do planets start off unnamed (or named after their solar system) until players vote on a name? [23-Aug-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: it's worth mentioning that the planets actually do orbit and stuff so the precise amount of fuel is up to some variation. [23-Aug-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: and secondly that entering/leaving atmosphere uses a great deal of fuel [23-Aug-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ Around 50 SF if I'm not mistaken. But I suppose that can vary too [23-Aug-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Yer sometimes its 8 hours to station, other times 1-2 days [23-Aug-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gooser** joined.* [23-Aug-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: CoGC on strike? What does that entail? [23-Aug-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Loss of the 25% bonus to manufacturing. [23-Aug-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it means that we don't get the bonuses from the COGC [23-Aug-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: aw dang [23-Aug-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: however the strike is over. it lasted only like 15 minutes [23-Aug-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Ohhh I see [23-Aug-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: I'm assuming it just ends whenever the upkeep supplies are met? [23-Aug-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they were quickly pacified with promises of food and water [23-Aug-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh lol I thought it was gonna be like 2 weeks or something hahaha [23-Aug-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep, exactly [23-Aug-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gooser**: ih [23-Aug-24 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere39e1bc725** left.* [23-Aug-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user86833e73ab** left.* [23-Aug-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [23-Aug-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: hola [23-Aug-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gooser**: any one know were i could get psl? [23-Aug-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you should buy some at the benten commodity exchange [23-Aug-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gooser**: cant find it [23-Aug-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gooser**: oh it scrolls down [23-Aug-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gooser**: tnx for the help [23-Aug-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: SF @ 12.00 in LM. [23-Aug-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Did someone pick it up already? [23-Aug-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I did. [23-Aug-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: :( Good on you for picking it up. [23-Aug-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will sell some to you if you are in need. But, you know... the price was right and I am constantly buying fuel. [23-Aug-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Same price... [23-Aug-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Much of what is bought and sold here is being there at the right time. I also scored some GRN for less than bid price on Proxion and oxygen on Etherwind. [23-Aug-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No no. I would just resell it. [23-Aug-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Or that is why I would have bought it myself. [23-Aug-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have 5 hungry ships and I am very impatient. I schedule my ships at 12 hour intervals most of the time - morning and night. [23-Aug-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am waiting for the night shift to arrive now. [23-Aug-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do you ever wonder what happened to Hazzaah? [23-Aug-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they had some family obligations and have stopped playing [23-Aug-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icarus606** joined.* [23-Aug-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Lol. Wife said it's her or PrUn, and we got dumped. 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[24-Aug-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: How much do you need? 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Like 24h? [25-Aug-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yep [25-Aug-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Flying takes a while [25-Aug-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you want quicker routes its normally quicker to jump in and out of a system unless the planets are aligned [25-Aug-24 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RamenTheKid** deleted this message.* [25-Aug-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Why is flying between systems faster, because it uses FTL? [25-Aug-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbb7c25cfa8** left.* [25-Aug-24 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone need anything shipped from Katoa to Benten Station within 3 days? [25-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SebastianC** joined.* [25-Aug-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: If your workforce is not working - do you still have to provide their overall/food etc? [25-Aug-24 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orin_Fortissimo** joined.* [25-Aug-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoppyRex** deleted this message.* [25-Aug-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The FTL is the reason its faster [25-Aug-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @Impregn8 I believe so [25-Aug-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: the ship jumps from the closest point it can from origin to another system then jumps back in to a point closest to the destination. Normal flight is slow. [25-Aug-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: @[SRUS] Doopy - is it better to build the factory before upping workers with habitation then? - More cost effective [25-Aug-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @Impregn8 its best to build both Hab and Factory at same time. [25-Aug-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you still have HAB space I would work on building Facories first [25-Aug-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Question. Can you do private contracts between individuals as a free player, and if so how does one go about that (obvious noob) [25-Aug-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I think you can only accept contracts on the LM. [25-Aug-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not quite. a free license doesn't let you do private contracts or LM ads at all [25-Aug-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you pay for PRO, you get access to everything. if you let your PRO license expire, your license converts to a BASIC license, and you can accept LM ads, but not post them [25-Aug-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: There is a workaround for loans though. Just sell and buy a single item at a price representing the loan. [25-Aug-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone need shipping from Benten Station > Katoa? [25-Aug-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4616e41580** left.* [25-Aug-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Whenever i have money to buy things, i need shipping from UV-351 (Benten) Station to UV-351a (Katoa). However i don't have money or a pro licence. [25-Aug-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: what you need to ship to katoa? [25-Aug-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: When i have CIS. I have none right now. [25-Aug-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: no worries..will help..no need to pay [25-Aug-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: i am happy to help new players...what you need? or how much cis you need? [25-Aug-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Does leaving a ship in orbit use fuel... whereas landing or in a staion does not? [25-Aug-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bleebler** left.* [25-Aug-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: being in orbit isnt moving so not using fuel..but you need to get to a planet..nothing you can do there [25-Aug-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Oh, and just construction materials + supplies for feeding my production chains. [25-Aug-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Plus i don't have a Pro Licence. [25-Aug-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: you can accept contrs in katoa local market? [25-Aug-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sneakyfreeky** left.* [25-Aug-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ragnarok1294** left.* [25-Aug-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExoSmile_** joined.* [25-Aug-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFinalxBoss** left.* [25-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Can Someone please let me know where my BSE good are i bought yesterday but was taking to long to fulfill so i left and came back today order was filled and now i dont know where to pick it up at? [25-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: COX [25-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: CXL [25-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Ok Ty i know getting info for this game is sus and sketchy at best. thought i'd try. TY [25-Aug-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Anyone need anything shipped from Benten Station back to Katoa? gonna send a ship home soon [25-Aug-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @SpaceMonk3y check your contracts maybe [25-Aug-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Ah yes eminence ty i did and saw it, i thought i was just buying 16BSE for a collector but it was a contract ty. lol this is an awesome game but a little vague is the Plethora if info they give lol [25-Aug-24 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: well if i can talk and type right.. lol ty. [25-Aug-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Did you buy the BSE at the CX? [25-Aug-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: CXOS is the command to see your CX transactions. If they are still pending you can delete them. [25-Aug-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueHeeler** deleted this message.* [25-Aug-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Are you PRO or free player? 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[26-Aug-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Veloci7y**: AMM btw [26-Aug-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: possible causes are: insufficient input materials, or not enough output space. but neither are likely with AMM on a 3-hour old base [26-Aug-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: can you maybe send a screenshot? [26-Aug-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also: what makes you think that the production order is halted? [26-Aug-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Wow, SF got out of hand in a hurry [26-Aug-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Who the heck bought it all? [26-Aug-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Veloci7y**: @eminence32 collector queue shows AMM in the active slot but status is in red and says halted. [26-Aug-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Veloci7y**: NM i found out why [26-Aug-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Veloci7y**: apparently i had to unload my ship inventory and then status changed to 0% done. No idea what it needed though [26-Aug-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IChemistI** left.* [26-Aug-24 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc74881ddae** left.* [26-Aug-24 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JhonJhonJhonIII** left.* [26-Aug-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thornton** joined.* [26-Aug-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Veloci7y do you remember what you unloaded from your ship? [26-Aug-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wonder if it was consumable supplies (drinking water and basic rations) [26-Aug-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOldGallus** joined.* [26-Aug-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThomastheTrain** left.* [26-Aug-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: sounds like it [26-Aug-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: woah wtf happened to the price of STL Fuel at the CX? [26-Aug-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not really sure... [26-Aug-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I mean... *looks at my 6000 SF fuel ready to send to the CX* Im not really complaining..... [26-Aug-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, i've got 30k ready to sell so i'm also not complaining. but i always try to understand the markets that i trade in [26-Aug-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yeah there was plenty of supply earlier, I think, Im curious what happened to it all? [26-Aug-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Imma be honest idk how to read the chart lol what kind of chart is it called? bar graph? [26-Aug-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, from the price chart, you can see 200k SF was bought up recently [26-Aug-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but there are plenty of days with total volumn higher than that [26-Aug-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: so whats up with that dude selling fuel for 50 cis a pop...? [26-Aug-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: probably storage [26-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh wild, so you can do that to keep the fuel there for free???? [26-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [26-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a bit of a "hack" i think most people think should be changed at some point [26-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: cant help but feel thats an exploit lol [26-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah exactly [26-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: what even is the point of the warehouse? [26-Aug-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not sure how exactly this should be fixed. one possibility is that the materials just stay in your warehouse. another possibility is that you have to pay a listing fee [26-Aug-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: as long as its not outrageous those sound feesable [26-Aug-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so how's your first week been as a CEO of a company in this propserous universe? [26-Aug-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh yeah has it been a week? [26-Aug-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Its been good! Way, way better than my first attempt lol [26-Aug-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im actually growing and sustaining an infrastructure, have a sort of plan, and you folks have been super cool and helped me out a lot [26-Aug-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of my ships are on 12 hour flights, so i do very little in this game. but i spend a *lot* of time making plans [26-Aug-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: often contradictory ones, from one day to the next [26-Aug-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: hahaha you aint kidding about plans being contradictory [26-Aug-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: How do I figure out what to do next? [26-Aug-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the unhelpful answer is "what do you want to do" ? [26-Aug-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me personally, i wanted to make as much of the stuff i consumed as possible, so i built extra bases to extract the resources i need, or produce the things i need [26-Aug-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Good Evening [26-Aug-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [26-Aug-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: im half tempted to tell everyone that RAT and DW are the best lol. [26-Aug-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: and the all important CO [26-Aug-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: COF [26-Aug-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Yeah? I was wondering about the coffee situation. I'm doing fuel but was wondering if a growing set up was worth it [26-Aug-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: On Katoa i dont think its worth it. no fertility or bonuses [26-Aug-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sometimes it's fun to make plans to corner the market on just one materials. the game is small enough that a well-established player could do that [26-Aug-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Fair enough, thanks for that advice [26-Aug-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, don't make serious plans to grow stuff on katoa [26-Aug-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: proxion is a good and nearby planet for growing stuff [26-Aug-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I finally have a balance, I think for my tiny Fuel operation... I guess I'll just expand that instead of adding food to the mix [26-Aug-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i tried to grow my own food, but i found that to be impossible (i just consume too much), so i'm strongly considering closing down my DW/RAT base [26-Aug-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Or you can branch into manufacturing too, BMPs have a lot of options and you can make some of your consumables [26-Aug-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, katoa is a good place for manufacturing [26-Aug-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I'll have to look into that. I noticed the Gibson had some interesting materials... but somebody in chat made me feel like it was a bad idea to build a base there [26-Aug-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, it depends on what you want to do there [26-Aug-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in general, most people are going to tell you: do the industry that matches the COGC bonus [26-Aug-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I'll have to look into other industries, to be honest I was just trying to get used to Fuel and hadn't looked at what goes into other industries [26-Aug-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If you went Gibson you could go for construction, it has FEO on planet so thats nice [26-Aug-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa is a little unusual, in that it has a manufacturing COGC, but so many people refine fuel here [26-Aug-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Right now, my refinery is sitting idol because it's waiting on me to produce other materials but when I start it up... I think I have everything timed so that it will run non stop [26-Aug-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so obviously one can be profitable without the COGC bonus [26-Aug-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what are you needings for your REF? if you have pro, we can get you jump started [26-Aug-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: what is the COGC bonus? I dont think I know that [26-Aug-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Chasing COGC could also be advised against, I think i messed up building one of my bases but who knows [26-Aug-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I appreciate that Eminence but I'm goin to try to see if I can get up and running with just what the game offers. I do have pro but I like the early game struggle [26-Aug-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of planets have a building called the "Chamber of Global Commerce". you can find a link to it in the planet info window [26-Aug-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: COGC UV-351a [26-Aug-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: or type that into a buffer [26-Aug-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the COGC let's everyone vote on an industry. the industyr that wins gets a 25% production bonus. so every production line in that industry runs 25% faster [26-Aug-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Ohh... I was looking at that the other day' [26-Aug-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so approximately 25% more profits for stuff made in production lines that match the COGC industry [26-Aug-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Is there an in game filter for expertise when building? [26-Aug-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so you don't need to restrict yourself to *only* matching the COGC industry. but you should be aware of it, and how the COGC system works [26-Aug-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, not that i know of [26-Aug-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but there is such a filter in prunplanner.com [26-Aug-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: i love prun [26-Aug-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Thanks for the heads up about the COGC [26-Aug-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: ok, my work here is done for the night, be back in 14 hours lol... Nite all [26-Aug-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: o7 [26-Aug-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: o7 [26-Aug-24 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aar192001** joined.* [26-Aug-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mads372f** joined.* [26-Aug-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirisKing985** joined.* [26-Aug-24 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grimapark** joined.* [27-Aug-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***simdimdim** left.* [27-Aug-24 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: God 13 REF cooks so much SF [27-Aug-24 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 15 cooks a smidge more ;) [27-Aug-24 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I make about 12k/day [27-Aug-24 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user03f4c17be9** left.* [27-Aug-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: 4 refs - 15k daily [27-Aug-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: possibly could be more, but I'm too lazy to optimize things [27-Aug-24 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fabre** left.* [27-Aug-24 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user504385ff1e** left.* [27-Aug-24 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gegon** joined.* [27-Aug-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rektagon** joined.* [27-Aug-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ika** left.* [27-Aug-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adiklafa** joined.* [27-Aug-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Hello [27-Aug-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [27-Aug-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: NAB cooks so slow [27-Aug-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: slow but efficient Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― wich recipe is more profitable generally just depends on the CoGM. If your inputs are expensive, use the NAB, if inputs are cheap and SF is selling high, making it faster might make more. But then you also have to factor in the logistics of moving more with the faster recipe [27-Aug-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: Vry efficient for sre [27-Aug-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoppyRex** deleted this message.* [27-Aug-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Will buy 50 GAL at 110/u [27-Aug-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Contract sent @DoppyRex [27-Aug-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Accepted :) [27-Aug-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @shilerhobbs [27-Aug-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kochijr** joined.* [27-Aug-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user27bf60f259** left.* [27-Aug-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pj.pj** joined.* [27-Aug-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Buying 50 GAL at 110/u [27-Aug-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koya2** left.* [27-Aug-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FinalK** left.* [27-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Is that ll you need is 50? [27-Aug-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: all* [27-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Just to tide me over for CX visist [27-Aug-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got stuff at CX I just am late on my transport [27-Aug-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: send me a cont and I'll take care of it [27-Aug-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Somebody already covered me [27-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But thanks for offering. [27-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: no worried [27-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Take his offer ;p [27-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Speak of the devil [27-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: lol [27-Aug-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm sending another ship your way tomorrow probably. Ill drop off 500 INS to you [27-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm hoping for a 2 Hour trip back if I burn enough fuel [27-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: And then I should be good [27-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: oooh much appreciated! Definately good for repairs! just upped production too [27-Aug-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: let the ship take its time, what all do you need? [27-Aug-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got 13 REF, Just had a bit of a logistics failure (Ships were out running Shipments when I realised I needed more GAL). Idk how much I burn 26 GAL Every 3 and a half hours? [27-Aug-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: So Like its 7h 48 till my ships arrive at CX and I've got 100 GAL. [27-Aug-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: do you use Prun? [27-Aug-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [27-Aug-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If you need more GAL i know people here, including me, have some. dont need to burn the extra fuel im sure [27-Aug-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If I make the return trip in 3 Hours/under I'll be fine, its just GAL is way too big for starter ships too haul. [27-Aug-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I would just figure out your daily and go off that... youre cutting close on 8hr increments [27-Aug-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yes, there is plenty of GAL here. I have 14EXT and 15REF... no biggie. [27-Aug-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got someone helping me we just had a realisation that none of the original GAL was in system [27-Aug-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: So been in a bit of a panic to cover. [27-Aug-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Also I have tons of AMM, way more than I can use. If you need it, it's here. [27-Aug-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Got 1000 AMM I should be good for a long time [27-Aug-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Ned some H? ;p [27-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 2000 H no problems there :) [27-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Shoot, that only lasts like 4 days lol [27-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Got a ship coming in 2 [27-Aug-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm trying to work out what GAL I would actually need, if I don't burn. [27-Aug-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Like a full Day's worth [27-Aug-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: So 200? I think [27-Aug-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Prun will tell you... [27-Aug-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 185 per day [27-Aug-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But I've got some weird transit times in the middle [27-Aug-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I would never count on transit times. They change based on the rotation of the system. [27-Aug-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Jump in and out of System [27-Aug-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Go quicker :) [27-Aug-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: For FF cost instead but eh [27-Aug-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I try not to use FF unless it's to get H from shilerhobbs [27-Aug-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: It trades roughly the same as SF here and I use less on jumps [27-Aug-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I wish i was mostly in system at this point, both ships are on constant 12 ish hour trips [27-Aug-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its a full day to the CX at a good SF rate :( [27-Aug-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea, I just plan on 24hr for trips every where, but if the planets are close, it's nice to have a 12hr trip [27-Aug-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DSGaming_V2** joined.* [27-Aug-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Obscurus** joined.* [27-Aug-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deviantttt** joined.* [27-Aug-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Mr_Butters** left.* [27-Aug-24 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drums124** joined.* [28-Aug-24 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***degenspec** joined.* [28-Aug-24 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tuottaja** joined.* [28-Aug-24 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb166356318** left.* [28-Aug-24 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kenny_Wong** joined.* [28-Aug-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: shipping from Benten Station to Katoa soon! 480t/480m of space available [28-Aug-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user70baaa3e3d** left.* [28-Aug-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IKnight37** left.* [28-Aug-24 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pulsefire**: Is it better to produce rocket fuel or beverages? A mix of both? [28-Aug-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I just make my workers drink the fuel if they're thirsty [28-Aug-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flonkk**: Is there a way to close your company and start a new one? [28-Aug-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aidenster** left.* [28-Aug-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yes [28-Aug-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You would type in COLIQ into a new buffer [28-Aug-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It'll liquidate your company and let you start fresh [28-Aug-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flonkk**: Okay thanks! [28-Aug-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That being said, there's a countdown timer after you do it the first time, and a longer one the second time, so on and so forth. [28-Aug-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Before you do that though. [28-Aug-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Why were you thinking of restarting? [28-Aug-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flonkk**: Because i started as a fuel company and i now think a mining company would be better for my style [28-Aug-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Flonkk**: or a shipbuilder [28-Aug-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flonkk** left.* [28-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well. Mining is rough. It'll be very difficult to make a decent profit off of mining. [28-Aug-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But check your personal messages. I might have an offer for you. [28-Aug-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The recruitment continues. :) [28-Aug-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: skep [28-Aug-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: lol. I'm all about them deal. Plus, always happy to help out newer players when I can. [28-Aug-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Anyone have a single BHP? I screwed up. LM ad posted for 25% more than current offer price on the cx [28-Aug-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: *50% [28-Aug-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: When do you need it buy? [28-Aug-24 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: by* [28-Aug-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryley** joined.* [28-Aug-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **cytiko**: Yeah, I got you. Fulfilled now. [28-Aug-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Thank you! [28-Aug-24 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Didn't see chat til just now, sorry [28-Aug-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf2154078b9** left.* [28-Aug-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **cytiko**: All good, just happy to help! [28-Aug-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Hey folks! How do experts work? I just got another one [28-Aug-24 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jlutz65** joined.* [28-Aug-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: They give you production efficiency bonuses. [28-Aug-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Click View Base, then click Experts, then click ACT or RMV. Play around with this and you will see that Current Efficiency changes depending on what you did in the Experts. View Base, Production, Details. [28-Aug-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ [28-Aug-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can get a maximum of 5 in any individual field, but employ a maximum of 6. You get them by using production buildings. The more buildings you have, the faster the experts appear. They take longer and longer to acquire the more you have in any one field. So first one may be 5 days, second will be 10, third 20, etc etc. [28-Aug-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ahhhh okay, so that litte progress bar grows when I use a specific type of building, and when its full I get a new expert! [28-Aug-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: A little reward for specialization and time spent, cool stuff [28-Aug-24 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Does no one have any. TS to sell to my order in the exchange or am I tryin to by in a way that's not efficient?? I just started and am learning the market but it's a little tuff at this point. [28-Aug-24 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you look at the price chart for TS, you'll see there's very little trade volume. this indicates that not many people buy or sell it [29-Aug-24 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Ooh Eminence again with the assist, Ty ty [29-Aug-24 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: That's good info I look through all those tabs and I'm still trying to grasp what they're representing I saw a few videos that somebody said few things on it so okay I will start looking at that when I'm thinking of trading or buying okay [29-Aug-24 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: No is that global throughout the whole game or just in katoa and if I go to another system I'll find more ts [29-Aug-24 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: What is going on with h.CI1? Only have offers at 199 and 200? [29-Aug-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: H.CI1 [29-Aug-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: no [29-Aug-24 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: it's 116 right now [29-Aug-24 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: Any KAWA want to buy 23 FEO? Also, can I get a corp invite? [29-Aug-24 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***orangesaregood** joined.* [29-Aug-24 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whoja** left.* [29-Aug-24 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Question, why is the planet campaign for 'manufacturing', when it's a starter 'fuel refining'? Or is it a start for other professions too? [29-Aug-24 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the short answe is: it's always been manufacturing [29-Aug-24 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it's flipped to fuel a couple times in the past apparently and flipped back shortly after. [29-Aug-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I think a lot of people just don't find the fuel bonus worth it in general because margins are usually so low. [29-Aug-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah and this is a starter world, wouldn't it make sense to try to boost people getting off their feet instead of a few powerhouse companies who have decided to build their base a certain way on this planet? [29-Aug-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: manufacturing is generally more profitable than fuel refining, and there's enough people who set-up bases here because it has a manufacturing bonus that they keep it manufacturing [29-Aug-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: One day, Katoa will get a refinery bonus. People are just too lazy to calculate that manufacturing is even less profitable than refining. [29-Aug-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, the thing to also remember is that the "few powerhouse companies" that you refer to are also the people running the planet and paying for it's very expensive upkeep [29-Aug-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: They'll find another planet if they want a bonus that's so unfavourable to the majority. [29-Aug-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (my current base here on katoa is a mixture of fuel refining and manufacturing, and it's definietly more profitable for me with the manufacturing COGC bonus) [29-Aug-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean it's also a starter world that is all greens, so not like they would leave a place they don't have to pay extra for [29-Aug-24 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I've seen some of ColeSlaw's numbers (not that I understand a majority of it), and I appreciate the effort put in to calculating taxes accurately instead of guesstimates. That being said I just feel it skims over the new player experience, as literally none of the resources here are used in manufacturing (at least as raw resources) [29-Aug-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That and most new players don't have pro, and therefore can't vote themselves [29-Aug-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also, isn't the point of taxes to pay for the upkeep cost of the planet? At that point who is actually paying for the upkeep? [29-Aug-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: What we're talking about is a monopoly on a production bonanza that a minority on this planet wants. If everyone had a vote, the situation might be very different. [29-Aug-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: .At least it's admitted :/ [29-Aug-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you sure that players with a FREE license can't vote on COGC programs? [29-Aug-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: taxes generally cover COGC upkeep, but don't necessarily cover popi upkeep and upgrades [29-Aug-24 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It says I can't vote, and whenever I try it brings up the fact I have a free license [29-Aug-24 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, i didn't realize that. that's good info, thanks [29-Aug-24 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Now, I don't know if it cares whether you have a basic or pro, but free is locked out [29-Aug-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: On the note though, what is influence? That the faction points I occasionally get? [29-Aug-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, i think it's calculated based on how many workers you employ [29-Aug-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So those companies with 1k+ influence are just the people that have multiple bases/plots of land? [29-Aug-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, you can only have 1 base and 1 plot of land on each planet [29-Aug-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you can expand your base to have a total of 1000 area [29-Aug-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Ah. Thought you could nab a second plot if there was an availability. Good to know [29-Aug-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (all bases start with 500 area, can be expanded once to 750, and then expanded again to 1000) [29-Aug-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my current influence is 1867.5 and that appears to be calcualted from (number of pioneers) + (1.25 * number of settlers) [29-Aug-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so higher tier workers give you more influence [29-Aug-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Oh yeah, then if free could vote it would be much different. Kinda wack [29-Aug-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, it' s not really a democracy. [29-Aug-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a video game where the game creators need some ways to incentivize people to buy the game ;) [29-Aug-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe don't penalize people out the gate then? It's okay to acknowledge a flaw, but I wouldn't try making excuses for it [29-Aug-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i honestn't don't know if i agree that fuel producers are penalized here on katoa [29-Aug-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I meant the voting [29-Aug-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe not penalized but also can't actively contribute, which is pretty important in a player driven economy [29-Aug-24 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh. yeah, i guess. honestly the thing that bothers me way more than cogcm voting is that free players can't participate in local markets or contracts. so it means i can't help new free players with cheap supplies [29-Aug-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Like I understand locking out contracts (not local markets, but ig you can group that into contracts) but being unable to have a voice or participate other than flying to CX is discouraging [29-Aug-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeee, same vibe [29-Aug-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Idk if I had to choose whether I would give free players access to accept local market or Direct contracts. [29-Aug-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Probably local markets. [29-Aug-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's possible the team is worried about unfare advantages if people create multiple free accounts and use them to trade directly [29-Aug-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Why not both? I see no reason why you can't do direct trade with somebody, especially if the other (paid) player initiates [29-Aug-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Less from a standpoint of equalising the play field [29-Aug-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and more from the standpoint of making free playable. [29-Aug-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe lock starter funds/materials to be untradable? A lot of MMOs do that [29-Aug-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: How do you discern between the starter funds and materials and the built-demolished materials [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: starter is easy, then checks if you have the starter buildings. If not, adds those materials back into the 'not tradable list' [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah but you see [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe do that check for like the first 3 months [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I demolished my starter buildings [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 2 days ago [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: I feel like BASIC players should be able to vote still. [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: That does feel wierd that basic can't [29-Aug-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ...they can't? [29-Aug-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: All I need for the encouragement to buy pro is recurring orders. [29-Aug-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: >>Discouraging [29-Aug-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: They can't vote on CoGC at the very least. Not sure about governors. [29-Aug-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, as mentioned above, katoa did actually flip to a fuel refining bonus once or twice in the past. but it didn't stick [29-Aug-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Katoa has "unlimited" Slots though? so it makes sense that it doesn't stay a fuel refining planet. [29-Aug-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you can have as many player bases as you want with no cap on plots, manufacturing is what you want to run. [29-Aug-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: From a corporation perspective [29-Aug-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: new players can always establish a base on katoa [29-Aug-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Not a player perspective [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but we've run out of plots for other playres [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: I know that CPT wants to push fuel production, but I haven't heard anything about changing the bonus here. [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But because new players can always build. [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: If you as a corporation scoop up a load of new players on Kat [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You can have them all do manufacturing [29-Aug-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and the plot limit doesn't matter [29-Aug-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its basically because you are never going to need 300 Plots worth of fuel refining [29-Aug-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my eight little refinerys are humming along nicely today [29-Aug-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I wish GAL was smaller [29-Aug-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 13 REF eat too muich [29-Aug-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: that's a question. what happens if you don't get consumables for too long? Company go bankrupt/strike out? [29-Aug-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Or, more directly, how does the game deal with long term afk players, ones that drop the game and don't come back? [29-Aug-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you need to log in every so often in order to keep your account active [29-Aug-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: What happens if it isn't active? [29-Aug-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think your account gets suspended or removed [29-Aug-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i saw the answer to this question in a FAQ, i'm trying to find it again [29-Aug-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Your buildings will degrade to about 30% durability/speed. [29-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Makes me wonder how many people on this planet are active..? [29-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I never see more than 350ish online total at once. [29-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html#im-going-to-be-away-from-the-game-for-some-time-how-are-inactive-accounts-handled {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [29-Aug-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: And there are 505 players on this planet. [29-Aug-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at one point in the past there were 500 simultaneous connected players, but i haven't seen it near that again [29-Aug-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I do wonder if the devs track burnout ratios [29-Aug-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: burnout ratios? [29-Aug-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Number of players leaving / time players played [29-Aug-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: vs New Players Joining/time [29-Aug-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: I'm sure they do. They want expand the player base, not just replace people who've left [29-Aug-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [29-Aug-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ik it would make it too EVE Onliney [29-Aug-24 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: but some form of combat/battles would be interesting to me [29-Aug-24 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: It's on the roadmap for government takeover situations. [29-Aug-24 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: can you link the roadmap? [29-Aug-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: https://prosperousuniverse.com/roadmap {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/roadmap Prosperous Universe | The Economic Space MMO In Prosperous Universe, you are the CEO of your own spacefaring company. Explore the galaxy, design spaceships, forge alliances, and most importantly: produce, trade, transport, and profit. Manage your business through a highly customizable user interface named APEX, accessible via web browser. Contribute to a purely player-driven MMO economy in... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/iw6GWFhfbXVxv9pGxGE1JgF_0dDoqQLVZGppgAEL7-U/https/prosperousuniverse.com/og/image.jpg [29-Aug-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Gateways (orbital structures) are currently under development [29-Aug-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Are the devs part-time or full-time? [29-Aug-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not totally sure, but my general impression is that there's only like 1.2 people working fulltime on this game [29-Aug-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thorstenbr** left.* [29-Aug-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: That's my impression too [29-Aug-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The Core Team page lists 4 members [29-Aug-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and it appears they are full time [29-Aug-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this company that makes prun also makes a few other games, too [29-Aug-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: If switch to fuel cogc, just need 25% more gal. gonna build 25% more ext and less ref, or ship 25% more gal? Pass. [29-Aug-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: Neither of those are profitable, are they? not really. [29-Aug-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeonPheonix** joined.* [29-Aug-24 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: It would be an extra 2K SF production per day for me [29-Aug-24 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: So really not that much [29-Aug-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: What's with the spike in H? I bought some at 119 not even 3 days ago, that's 67% increase. It's chart shows a huge spike too [29-Aug-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Lack of H supply on the exchange. I see a lot of deals in the local market. That might be part of the problem. [29-Aug-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: eminence32 and i have been offering H to new players her on Katoa for 75/H ;p [29-Aug-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I suspect if you permitted them to resell on the CX if they wanted to, it would correct itself. [29-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Presuming that the issue is a lack of transport to the CX. [29-Aug-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Or i could just sell to cx for double rate. the low price on Katoa is meant to help players with their production and getting that going with lower overhead [29-Aug-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i will soon (within a few weeks) have a high-vol ship that should help a bit getting H to katoa [29-Aug-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I have 1500 avail now, my shipping is a bit slower lol [29-Aug-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Aiming for a high-vol ship as well but lookin like a month ish or something [29-Aug-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i also have someone deliverying 3000 units to katoa, which i hope to arrive (and put on the local market) within a day or two [29-Aug-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but that doesn't help free players, unfortunately [29-Aug-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: oh shoot. . yeah just say the rating. direct trades was the main reason i went for sub, CX can be rough! [29-Aug-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: effectively it creates two markets (a private and a public) with very different prices. Not sure if that's a feature or a bug from a game design perspective. I'm also a FREE player. I'm surprised it's not more profitable to sell at 100+ on the CX. I've been planning to start a second base strictly focused on collecting H just to do that. For a while my second ship was focused on picking up H on other CXs and reselling it on Benten Station but the supply kinda dried up, so now I'm keeping what I find for myself. [29-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JamesGattera** left.* [29-Aug-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, you're right about the two market thing [29-Aug-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: local markets are weird and are barely a market [29-Aug-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you make some good points, maybe i should just dump all my extra H on the CX [29-Aug-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean, if you are serious about selling cheap through local, I am going to get my pro in like a day or two when my ship finally hits CX. I'd appreciate it, but I also understand the need/want for higher profit [29-Aug-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the thing that i want to do mostly is provide H for the good peoples of katoa, for them to use. i don't really want to sell it and have someone flip it for profit on another market. but also i get that it's not really fair for me to dictate what people do with the goods that they've bought [29-Aug-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also, Umbra produces H, or is everyone who extracts that uses it for themselves? Idk what the extraction time/output looks like over there [29-Aug-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: umbra does indeed have H, but it's not a great planet for hydrogen extraction [29-Aug-24 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: on umbra, it costs me 73 CIS to extract 1 unit of hydrogen. on my main hydrogen extraction planet, it costs me about 20 CIS per unit [29-Aug-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (just to give you a rough sense. obviously 73 per unit is better than CX prices, so extracting H on umbra can make some sense in some situations) [29-Aug-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I might bug you in a couple days. I wouldn't sell the stuff, just for my own fuel production [29-Aug-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, please do reach out if/when you have pro/basic [29-Aug-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user66b36a18bc** left.* [29-Aug-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: What's a good marker for when you would want to start thinking about another base? Would it be capital overhead, or just a need to grab another resource with the ability to pull it off? [29-Aug-24 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You want to build out all of the 500 area on your first base. And you'll want enough capital to be able to build the second base (or part of it) and supply it for at least a 4-5 days. [29-Aug-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: So building the base isn't the only thing to consider. You want to make sure you can actually supply the buildings in it and your workforce. [29-Aug-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (and of course keep your first base supplied) [29-Aug-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Gotcha. I'm just in a bit of decision paralysis due to the fact I can make profit through any venture, even if I was buying all materials. Now some obv are more profitable then others, but I am trying to think what I can make that would also benefit me by making what I will later need so I don't have to buy that as well [29-Aug-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you're doing fuel now? [29-Aug-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Ye, but my extraction isn't up enough for an easy double refinery without buying those material too [29-Aug-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, are you using prunplanner? [29-Aug-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ech, everyone is trying to show it down my throat. I WILL, but later when I get a better feel of the game. I prefer to make myself suffer a little to get a fuller sense of the game [29-Aug-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorry, didn't mean to make it sound like i was forcing it on you [29-Aug-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but it can be a useful tool to help make decisions [29-Aug-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You're not, but you are like the 3-4 person to suggest it [29-Aug-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: yall worship the thing [29-Aug-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: some possible options for a second base: you could extract AMM on biogenesis (it's right in this same system) [29-Aug-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you could set up a farming base on proxion with an eye towards making your own food and water (though that's a little more tricky for reasons i can get into later) [29-Aug-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I was seeing that. Plus Nitrogen [29-Aug-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you could also extract or produce something that you don't use at all, and just sell it to fund the purchase of stuff that you do need [29-Aug-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i feel like i'm probably not helping the decision paralysis since you're right that there just are so many options [29-Aug-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I was thinking about making FRM and FP on Katoa to offset DW and RAT costs (at water costs), but I've been advised against it (though idk if I will listen it, it's still an option to me) [29-Aug-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for many months i had FRMs and FPs here on katoa [29-Aug-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How was that? I understand when you get more capital you have more options, but as a beginning option how was? [29-Aug-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: eventually my workforce grew too big, so even with the RAT/DW i was making on site, i still had to fly to the CX to buy RAT/DW [29-Aug-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at which point i deconstructed them and built more refineries and other things [29-Aug-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but it was useful for many months [29-Aug-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: hmm. good to know [29-Aug-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe the one lesson here is that when you're small, you can do pretty much anything anywhere [29-Aug-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, it won't be the most efficient thing, but that doesn't really matter in my opinion [29-Aug-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I feel the same is true in reverse though; the more capital, the more ability to run on lower % profit and still get what you want [29-Aug-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: true, but in general, we're not chasing absolute maximum profits. we're trying to get enough profits to let us play in a way that's fun for us [29-Aug-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That's... a fair point. You got me there [29-Aug-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: once you get enough capital, then you can do things like have 1 base dedicated to refining, one based dedicated to FRMs, another base dedicated to FPs, etc [29-Aug-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but until then, putting it all onto a single base sounds kinda fun. it's what i did to start [29-Aug-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: however i will tell you: the decision paralysis doesn't really go away. i have a new permit to use to build another base and i don't know what to do it it. i might build AMM extraction on biogensis. i might build another hydrogen collection base. i might expand an existing base. i really don't know right now [29-Aug-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm also condering saving on FP, and just doing the FRM, sell the produce [29-Aug-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Would save me the cost of the building and the upkeep [29-Aug-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a comment, though, about water: it's going to be cheaper to buy H2O at the CX than it is to extract it on katoa [29-Aug-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: OOOOhh yeah, noticed that and refunded my rig [29-Aug-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: lol [29-Aug-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: https://prosper.run/production-chains/RAT/1 {Embed} https://prosper.run/production-chains/RAT/1 Prosper: Production Chain Viewer Production chain viewer for Prosperous Universe [29-Aug-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: This is site really helped me wrap my head around the different production chains, Then Prunplanner came in for me to actually find planets and formulate plans [29-Aug-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrunkBlindPilot** joined.* [29-Aug-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Neato. Does a bit of clearing, but still a bit lost [29-Aug-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrunkBlindPilot** left.* [29-Aug-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Wish it also balanced production times, or at least had them incuded [29-Aug-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user43e855a68c** left.* [29-Aug-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jaik** left.* [29-Aug-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tworicegrain** left.* [29-Aug-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this is a neat tool. i had seen it before, but never really spent much time with it [29-Aug-24 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and yeah, showing production times would be really great [29-Aug-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: showing the production chains for simple stuff like RAT isn't all that interesting [29-Aug-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but this is neat: https://prosper.run/production-chains/TCU/1 {Embed} https://prosper.run/production-chains/TCU/1 Prosper: Production Chain Viewer Production chain viewer for Prosperous Universe [29-Aug-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: hey @eminence32 , still online? [29-Aug-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: says he's offline [29-Aug-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: you can always just click on the name [29-Aug-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So it seems. Good to know ig [29-Aug-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ohi [29-Aug-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @atlantisrising169 what's up? [29-Aug-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How many Hydrogen are you looking to sell? [29-Aug-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can sell you up to 1000 units [29-Aug-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 300@75PPU? [29-Aug-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I don't have much capital rn, but that should keep the refinery spinning for a week or 2 [29-Aug-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: contract inbound [29-Aug-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: A pleasure, saves me from whatever H.CI1 is doing rn [29-Aug-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Truly appreciated [29-Aug-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: happy to help! [29-Aug-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the same offer is open to any other new player (less than 60 days old) making fuel here [29-Aug-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: Hello all [29-Aug-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: It's insane how expensive some building materials are, I get that in a lot of ways it's all relative to the resources and time thatb goes into it but sheesh lol [29-Aug-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***howitzer00** joined.* [29-Aug-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sickvileilk** left.* [29-Aug-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No it's true. Bfabs are alright. But some planets need special resources which can get crazy expensive. INS, HSE, to name two. [29-Aug-24 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: AFABs are the most costly. Just wait until you want HQ levels after 20. [29-Aug-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well, at that point, one would hope you can produce your own AFABs. [29-Aug-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Don't know how one would afford buying all of them off the CX. [29-Aug-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Level 22 - 108 ABH, 72 ADE, 72 ASE, 36 ATA. [29-Aug-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's still expensive, because instead of making stuff you can sell on the CX, you're consuming the stuff yourself [29-Aug-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. fk that. I'm setting up shop in Nike [29-Aug-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I build AFABs and I don't have the heart to tale level 23. [29-Aug-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: *take [29-Aug-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cdweiss82** joined.* [29-Aug-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I also build ship parts for those of you interested in making another ship. [29-Aug-24 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: /me makes a note [29-Aug-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Do you accept holy beanz as payment? [29-Aug-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: BHP - BeanzHullPlate [29-Aug-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: LOL Now where would get holy beanz? [29-Aug-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I grow them in the sacred garden of the holy order of the bean reaper. [29-Aug-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lothare** joined.* [29-Aug-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tech_Money** joined.* [30-Aug-24 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grade2infernalvisitor** left.* [30-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pulsefire**: I'm now realizing fuel is super unprofitable [30-Aug-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pulsefire** deleted this message.* [30-Aug-24 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Fuels not bad [30-Aug-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You can buy everything on the market and still make a profit. [30-Aug-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: And if your selling for a loss consider transiting to MOR and selling there for higher. [30-Aug-24 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShadowFlame** joined.* [30-Aug-24 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MightyCat** joined.* [30-Aug-24 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kbossm772** left.* [30-Aug-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I promise, you make make plenty of money selling SF. It's all about volume. [30-Aug-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gamer_dog**: Is it more cost efficient to sell FTL fuel or STL fuel? [30-Aug-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: a mix probably. check daily profit if both, but remember that SF moves slower. so you might make more per unit but sell less [30-Aug-24 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mooooo** left.* [30-Aug-24 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeuseWolfe** left.* [30-Aug-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd99119b91f** left.* [30-Aug-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Metcore** joined.* [30-Aug-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I only sell SF and do just fine. [30-Aug-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I mean, I'm #5 right now this week so... [30-Aug-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PantsPants** joined.* [30-Aug-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Retnom** joined.* [30-Aug-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PantsPants**: How do I know when something I bought on a commodity exchange is fulfilled and I can use it? [30-Aug-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PantsPants**: I'm so lost [30-Aug-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sychius** joined.* [30-Aug-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eno_Phmann** left.* [30-Aug-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @PantsPants if you order was priced so that it could be bought immeditally, then the thing you bought will have been delivered to your warehouse (if you have one) or your docked ship (if you have one) [30-Aug-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you didn't have a place for the materials to go, then check your contracts -- you'll have a contract to pick up the thing [30-Aug-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but if your buy order couldn't find a matching sell order, then you haven't yet bought the thing (you've only placed the buy order) [30-Aug-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***d1ss3nt** left.* [30-Aug-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TdunkFlying** joined.* [30-Aug-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xandert1029** joined.* [30-Aug-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DonTobias** joined.* [30-Aug-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: New election everyone make sure to vote!! [30-Aug-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Don't tell me what to do. You're not even my real dad. [30-Aug-24 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Does anyone have 1k FF on kat they could sell me. I can pay 16/u [30-Aug-24 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: got you [30-Aug-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: send a cont [30-Aug-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Thanks chief. Will do [30-Aug-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pulsefire** deleted this message.* [30-Aug-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pulsefire**: are the big corpos still recruiting? [30-Aug-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: howdy my fellow space CEOs [30-Aug-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: @pulsefire FIOC is always recruiting. [30-Aug-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We're a bit different from other corps. But you can get a good idea of how we do things here. https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1207034878504476712 [30-Aug-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hole Ramen [30-Aug-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hola* [30-Aug-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i had a delicious miso ramen bowl tonight for dinner [30-Aug-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I am pretty tasty @eminence [30-Aug-24 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: can confirm [30-Aug-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So its been a few days, I can produce without any shipments for days now and I profit about 10K a day [30-Aug-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So Im curious what's next for me [30-Aug-24 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: generally, it would be to save up enough capital to continue building out your base [30-Aug-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Congrats. That's a big milestone. [30-Aug-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And yeah. I would prioritize building our your base fully before moving on. But then next step is picking a second base. [30-Aug-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay I was wondering that [30-Aug-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: and thanks! [30-Aug-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: It would be much cheaper to perfect this base than to expand into another planet I imagine [30-Aug-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I probably should extract more resources, Im surviving off of imports for production rn lol [30-Aug-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. Imports for fuel is rough at the moment. [30-Aug-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yeah... I dont even sustain myself on galerite rn lol [30-Aug-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But don't worry, there's a plan in motion to help you lovely fuel producers out. [30-Aug-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh yeah? [30-Aug-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also, don't worry about being "perfect" [30-Aug-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: perfect as in worrying about making a mistake, or about eliminating imports? [30-Aug-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: both! [30-Aug-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: pace and sequence. [30-Aug-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's very very rare for a company to have litterally zero imports [30-Aug-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ [30-Aug-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: nor is it necessarily profitable [30-Aug-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh yeah makes sense, otherwise it wouldnt be a business game lol [30-Aug-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: sometimes you can make more money importing things from the CX to produce something with a higher margin with it. [30-Aug-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ahhh true [30-Aug-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: So Ive only used 170/500 of my land [30-Aug-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Fuel refining is a good example of this actually. Numbers wise, you make more building only REFs on Katoa. Issue is with the logistics side of things. [30-Aug-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But building EXTs along with your REFs is actually less profitable. Doesn't mean it's not worth it for other reasons. [30-Aug-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Just that looking solely at profits, your money is better invested in more REFs than in EXTs. [30-Aug-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh true... The 3 you had me get have been doing well but I do like the idea of slowly becoming more indipendent [30-Aug-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: independent [30-Aug-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. That's longer term goals though. To be fully independent producing fuel, you need a base on Biogenesis, and a base on CB-282d. And if you don't produce GAL on Kat, then a separate GAL base. Those 3 supplementary bases will cost you like 5 million total. CB-282d and Biogenesis are NOT cheap planets to develop. [30-Aug-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh damn lol [30-Aug-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But one step at a time. And you'll see lots of profits as you go. [30-Aug-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah I dont have 5 mil lying around yet... [30-Aug-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not suggesting you do this, but here's the path i took: i initially built enough EXT and COL to keep all my refineries fed. but eventually i built enough REFs that it wasn't practical (or possible) to build more EXT/COL, so as those buildings deteriorated, i deconstructed them instead of repaired them, and built more REFs in their place [30-Aug-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Im not against that, trading with others to get the resources is kinda cool [30-Aug-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so naturally over time the composition of your base can change [30-Aug-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ [30-Aug-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (and yes, buildings in your base do need to be repaired every now and again. it's something that new players sometimes forget) [30-Aug-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That too. You have room to work with at the start. 500 area is a lot at first. But you realize quickly that really it's not that much. [30-Aug-24 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh wow, yeah I definitely got futher this time than my first try, so its cool to see Ill be building a lot more in the future [30-Aug-24 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we're very happy to hear you've having some success this time! [30-Aug-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: A 500area base can handle 13 REFs. Issue is with the inputs. You need like 1k m and 1kt a day to feed it. [30-Aug-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Thats why I was saying, although it may be more profitable to only build REFs, the logistics make it practically impossible at the start of the game. [30-Aug-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: thansk! Yeah I did construction prefabs my first try, and with less help. Not easy lol [30-Aug-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ah, yeah. Construction is not an easy start. [30-Aug-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I built a PP1 next to my BMPs on Kat when I first started. [30-Aug-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It was NOT a good idea. [30-Aug-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: omg 1k a day? not happening lol [30-Aug-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. I supply 2 13 REF bases. And I have 2 2k2k ships and 1 3k1k ship, and I'm barely keeping up. [30-Aug-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: yeah shouldnt I build my PP1 on like... a planet with iron/limestone? [30-Aug-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: dang really? [30-Aug-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well. I'm shipping the SF out to MOR. [30-Aug-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: So that's takes a bit more time than sending it to BEN. [30-Aug-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But yeah. The logistics needs are pretty wild. [30-Aug-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: FE is quite heavy indeed and hard to move, but still i ship in all my FE from giedi prime to my constrution base on gibson [30-Aug-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh wow [30-Aug-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I made the calculation that using PP2s to produce Bfabs was better all around. [30-Aug-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: All except BDEs, which cost PE in PP1s and PG in PP2s, which isn't worth it. [30-Aug-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: FE and AL are produced at the same rate. AL while more expensive is lighter. And the PP2s churn out the fabs faster than a PP1 does. [30-Aug-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ohhh interesting... [30-Aug-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: eventually you'll find that you need to upgrade your ships before you start a new base [30-Aug-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Yeah, how do I go about that? Or buying new ships? [30-Aug-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: use the "BLU" command [30-Aug-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. By pure luck I started in manufacturing. And the logistics needs of manufacturing are very modest. [30-Aug-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can look on the UFO discord server. There are corps that will upgrade ships for beginners at a pretty steep discount. [30-Aug-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But it still costs like 650k. [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: Oh boy lol [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ill check it out [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And building new ships is crazy expensive. Talking like 5-7mil for a decent ship. [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I am getting sleepy tho so you folks have a good one [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the basic gist is: you create a blue print (either to upgrade a ship, or build a new one). you gather all the parts at a ship yard, and press a button and like a day later you have a new or upgraded ship [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Alright Ramen. gnight [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ahhh okay [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: cya dudes thank you [30-Aug-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm off for the night too. have a good night everyone [30-Aug-24 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drakeandjosh** joined.* [30-Aug-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deckss** deleted this message.* [31-Aug-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***worseize** deleted this message.* [31-Aug-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worseize**: H.CI1 link? [31-Aug-24 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KungTupp** joined.* [31-Aug-24 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KungTupp** left.* [31-Aug-24 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bibo89** joined.* [31-Aug-24 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2182d59ed0** left.* [31-Aug-24 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cow2boy** left.* [31-Aug-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jojotapani** joined.* [31-Aug-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I don't understand why it's going to take 33 days 16h to make only 500 SF.CI1 [31-Aug-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tonus_** joined.* [31-Aug-24 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: what's the state of repair on your REF? [31-Aug-24 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tempor**: Check that you have the workforce to power it, you're likely missing settlers, or the upkeep requirements for them like RAT.CI1 and DW.CI1 [31-Aug-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: probably not settlers, more like practically all 60 pioneers. A REF w/o settlers is only about ~20% slower. [31-Aug-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panda10** joined.* [31-Aug-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2bf0c718ed** left.* [31-Aug-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6022541d41** left.* [31-Aug-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Can someone tell me what OFF is [31-Aug-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and what catergory on the CX it is under [31-Aug-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: NVm [31-Aug-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: me forgetting the MAT command exists [31-Aug-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: protip: you can open a new buffer with the command "MAT OFF" and you'll get all sorts of useful info (the name, its CX category, it's production lines, etc) [31-Aug-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biggy_Fridge** joined.* [31-Aug-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vallejo** left.* [31-Aug-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***giobb** left.* [31-Aug-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***isit** joined.* [31-Aug-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icarus606** left.* [01-Sep-24 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***drakeandjosh** left.* [01-Sep-24 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seanmdrake03** joined.* [01-Sep-24 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seanmdrake03** left.* [01-Sep-24 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seanmdrake03** joined.* [01-Sep-24 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gielese** left.* [01-Sep-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amraleth** joined.* [01-Sep-24 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lazzymonk** left.* [01-Sep-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ElectronVolts** joined.* [01-Sep-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icemman** joined.* [01-Sep-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Junkie_Gamer24** left.* [01-Sep-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cactusfruit** left.* [01-Sep-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gustaaf** left.* [01-Sep-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***flair78** joined.* [01-Sep-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***soneill123** joined.* [01-Sep-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **soneill123**: hay can you help me i need to get my HQ runing [01-Sep-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***soneill123** deleted this message.* [01-Sep-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***soneill123** deleted this message.* [01-Sep-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [01-Sep-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what kind of questions do you have? [01-Sep-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **soneill123**: i dont [01-Sep-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **soneill123**: but can you help me get my hq up [01-Sep-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't understand your question. are you looking for someone to help you with HQ upgrade materials? [01-Sep-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PantsPants**: I bought MTG at the cx before my ship got there but idk where it went [01-Sep-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PantsPants**: where would I find it [01-Sep-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: check your contracts (CONT) [01-Sep-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **PantsPants**: Got it, thank you [01-Sep-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***S1dney** left.* [01-Sep-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RobboMate** left.* [01-Sep-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crash_Jr** joined.* [01-Sep-24 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OmegaBiscuit** left.* [02-Sep-24 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrLmao47** joined.* [02-Sep-24 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MrLmao47**: Hello [02-Sep-24 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EnvyF** joined.* [02-Sep-24 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere156c49cf2** left.* [02-Sep-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xerhys** left.* [02-Sep-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: hello! [02-Sep-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user982980c26d** left.* [02-Sep-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: wow, the CX is down to market maker supply on basic construction prefabs [02-Sep-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Yea BSE has been bouncing off that for a while. [02-Sep-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Honestly though, I think the cheapest I've ever seen BSE is 1490, so it's not really that taxing to see it at 1550. [02-Sep-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i make a lot of BSE, but it's all going towards my own expansions, so i haven't be putting any on the market recently [02-Sep-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aarkein_Devade** joined.* [02-Sep-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (ok, "a lot" is overstating it) [02-Sep-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: You make 6 don't you! πŸ˜‚ [02-Sep-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: excuse me, how dare you [02-Sep-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i made *SEVEN* [02-Sep-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: My bad... that IS alot!! [02-Sep-24 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nelsa** left.* [02-Sep-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eminence32** deleted this message.* [02-Sep-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: H2O.CI1 is doing a thing that it hasn't done in a while :) [02-Sep-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Huh Water doesn't have a market maker selling it [02-Sep-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we had a market maker. they were named "Vox Lunaris" [02-Sep-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah it dried up? [02-Sep-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Penguin0** joined.* [02-Sep-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not really clear. they used to have many tens of thousands of H2O for sale on all the big CXs. they are still at the top of the leader board for H2O production, so maybe just temporary logistics problems [02-Sep-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: or the heat wave evaporated it? [02-Sep-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDarkBlob** left.* [02-Sep-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: uh oh, time to make sure the umbra swimming pool is okay [02-Sep-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: God I just spent 1.1 Million [02-Sep-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: feels good doesn't it! :P [02-Sep-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: It would if I hadn't just taken it all on from a loan :) [02-Sep-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Doing some rapid expansion [02-Sep-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Though yeah it does feel good to buy a base outright [02-Sep-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: congrats! [02-Sep-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: vox lunaris seems to be buying lots of H2O on Etherwind LM so I am guessing they would be back with loads of water. [02-Sep-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreadnot** joined.* [02-Sep-24 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I know the feeling @DoppyRex, just opened a new base on Umbra with a loan for twice that a couple weeks ago . [02-Sep-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Don't feel too bad, you got the loan at 1% haha. It's almost free money. [02-Sep-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: 1% ?!? [02-Sep-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Who is offering them for that little? [02-Sep-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well. I was. But he's a buddy, I was happy to help him out. [02-Sep-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Lucky for you I'm always in the market for more friends haha [02-Sep-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thrumbo** joined.* [02-Sep-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as we all know, the quickest way to someone's heart is funds for a full base [02-Sep-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sholtor** left.* [02-Sep-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Well, I guess I can let it slide :) [02-Sep-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Have my first two permits maxed out at this time. Need to pay off these loans before expanding more. [02-Sep-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Next item is upgraded ships, Carbon weighs more than I would like, [02-Sep-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sinom** joined.* [02-Sep-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: money [02-Sep-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: money? [02-Sep-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: *loud horn noise* [02-Sep-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user39343d120a** left.* [02-Sep-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsMellowMan** joined.* [03-Sep-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VizoR** joined.* [03-Sep-24 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aDNyaneR** joined.* [03-Sep-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user43e8d51584** left.* [03-Sep-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Justicekees** joined.* [03-Sep-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jedi313** left.* [03-Sep-24 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ships are how you go bankrupt quick :) [03-Sep-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gooser** left.* [03-Sep-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ships are super expensive x_x [03-Sep-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WPD** joined.* [03-Sep-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere627a6a546** left.* [03-Sep-24 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taco10002** joined.* [03-Sep-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: They are, but I with an import fequency of 1.8 and 1.7 days with the starter ships. So I can't expand much more without better ships. [03-Sep-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Please help me [03-Sep-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: i have 3 CIS, a bunch of pending contracts and no fuel. It will take 30 days before i can make more fuel with on-site refineries, and i have no pro licence. [03-Sep-24 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm, you're in trouble. you need CIS to pay production fees [03-Sep-24 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you have anything at the CX that you can sell? [03-Sep-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: no i have no warehouses or any ships there. [03-Sep-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I have a lot of stuff here i can sell, but only if i can get it to the CX. Which i can't. [03-Sep-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Plus some of the contracts haven't expired yet. [03-Sep-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you ran your ships totally out of fuel? [03-Sep-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so* [03-Sep-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Completely out of STL fuel. I still have a very small quantity of FTL fuel, but you need both for system to system travel. [03-Sep-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and why is it going to take you 30 days to make more fuel at your refineries? [03-Sep-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: Because i constructed more buildings, forgetting to add more habitats, or factoring in their cost before purchasing the components. Now all my buildings are really slow, even though i'm not using the new buildings. [03-Sep-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: I think my only hope now is the company reset button. [03-Sep-24 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BraveCaperCat**: It is only 18 days of progress, so it probably would be best not to wait on that. [03-Sep-24 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, so you have the input materials to make fuel? [03-Sep-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so the "easiest" thing is for you to buy a PRO license, and someone can give you a loan, or fuel, or something [03-Sep-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BraveCaperCat** left.* [03-Sep-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but if you don't want to do that, i think i would recommend deconstructing enough refineries so you can get your efficiency back to a reasonable level, make enough fuel to get to the CX to sell something to get enough cash to be able to afford production fees [03-Sep-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: haha oh no, i guess they liquidated [03-Sep-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Yeeaap. [03-Sep-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: :( [03-Sep-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, let this be a good lesson to everyone: never let your ships run out of fuel, and never let your bank balance get that low [03-Sep-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Or at least have BASIC so you can enter into indentured servitude to save your hide xD [03-Sep-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm bummed, i think they could have saved their company [03-Sep-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: sad :( [03-Sep-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: True that! is there even a penalty on deconstructing a building at 100%? It returns all the stuff right? [03-Sep-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: yes [03-Sep-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: but if it ticks even a small amount of degradation, you do lose some mats [03-Sep-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: still, losing a few BSE would have been worth it, i think, compared to throwing away an 18-day old company [03-Sep-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: nope you don't lose anything [03-Sep-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: not for at least 3 hours [03-Sep-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Shoot if its a case of being locked out for a month i would take the hit on losing a BSE or two [03-Sep-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I checked it at a base i constructed just 3 hours ago. I can reclaim everything 100% even if the condition is at 99.9% [03-Sep-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: what do you mean locked out for a month? [03-Sep-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: The only penalty for COLIQ is that you have to wait progressively longer each time you liquidate, right? [03-Sep-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the user above said it would take 30 days for them to produce fuel in order to fly to CX (due to terrible efficiency) [03-Sep-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: oh that right [03-Sep-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gogol** left.* [03-Sep-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera4735f5b65** left.* [03-Sep-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***3148456800** joined.* [03-Sep-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user78bc8fde10** left.* [03-Sep-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: What is happening with the H supply? There is less than 100 offerned on the CX. [03-Sep-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. It's crashed. Demand is outweighing supply by orders of magnitude. [03-Sep-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if anyone has the cash and permits, we would warmly welcome you to CB-282d to collect some hydrogen [03-Sep-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Anyone willing to setup a base on CB-282d, I'm willing to setup a base there for you to produce H. [03-Sep-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I am real nervous about that, I have two bases with loans that use H. I might have to start importing from another CX. But My problem is I only have starter ships. [03-Sep-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I can't handle logistics though. You'll have to manage that yourself. But I can give you a 0% interest loan to build a base on CB-282d. [03-Sep-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: The logistics is my problem as well. A H base was my next plan once my loans where paid off. [03-Sep-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: is CB-282d overall preferred over Umbra? I mean, why do people set up on Umbra? [03-Sep-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Umbra is for chemistry [03-Sep-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: People go to Umbra to do chemistry [03-Sep-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: yeah [03-Sep-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: CB-282 is almost solely used for harvesting H. [03-Sep-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: For H CB-282d is better [03-Sep-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: ugh im slow [03-Sep-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, you can collect H on umbra (might be OK for small chemistry needs), but umbra is bad for bulk hydrogen collection [03-Sep-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: where "bad" mean two things: the price-per-unit on CB_282 is better, and building chemistry builds on umbra is generally more profitable [03-Sep-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: do all the buildings on CB-282d require aerostat and insulation ... or is it just for the base setup? (I guess that's another way of asking whether buildings everywhere requires the same prefabs) [03-Sep-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all buildings require those materails [03-Sep-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (so it's expensive to build on CB) [03-Sep-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: CB-282d was my original plan for my second base but I decided to go for a farming/food planet instead. I figured I can better handle the H supply issues that the RAT issues. [03-Sep-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: ugh [03-Sep-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Im sure we can figure something out lol i need RATs ;p [03-Sep-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: that=than [03-Sep-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: *everyone* needs RATs [03-Sep-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: True [03-Sep-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marianf9** joined.* [03-Sep-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marianf9** left.* [03-Sep-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ah fuck [03-Sep-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've ran out of fuel [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: On Katoa? how much you need? [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nah [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Ships not here [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: bummer [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Currently figuring out how to run the rescue op with the other one [03-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: where at? if its on the way lol [03-Sep-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its currently travelling to gibson and I've only just noticed that it doesn't have the FF or SF for flight beyond that [03-Sep-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Someone on Gibson might have some, or at least i would think [03-Sep-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Currently wondering if I abort it and turn it around to Antares if it could make it [03-Sep-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah that's what I'll do. [03-Sep-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Abort and redirect to Antares [03-Sep-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Now how to get AIC [03-Sep-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you have PRO, you can trade on the (somewhat confusing) currency markets [03-Sep-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if not, you have to sell something for AIC [03-Sep-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah trying to figure it out. [03-Sep-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Thank god I have PRO my ship has nothing in it I can trade with for [03-Sep-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Added Like 6 Hours to the travel time but whatever. Better than a stranded Ship [03-Sep-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I have FF on ANT. [03-Sep-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you still need it. [03-Sep-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Funny. You actually used my bid on the FX for the AIC haha. 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[04-Sep-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***niels756** joined.* [04-Sep-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mu3cke** joined.* [04-Sep-24 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user741b0e10e3** left.* [04-Sep-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Hey peoples, I'm probably going to up taxes on ENG/SCI again. Maybe even max them out. Maintaining high tier populations on a planet with tons of lower population (like starter planets) is exponentially more expensive than mainaining those same populations on a planet with mostly high tier. Now that progress is being made towards turning Yannick into a high tier planet, I am going to start upping taxes here to represent the amount of taxes actually needed to support them. Here on Katoa, almost half of all upkeep cost is to maintain the ENG/SCI that people have here.... If I just ignored those populations entirely then I could stop providing a lot of most expensive upkeep materials and PIO/SET would be just fine still. I'm not going to ignore them, I'll keep maintaining them, but I am going to tax accordingly and then use some of that money to help build up Yannick as an alternative. [04-Sep-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TribunaL** joined.* [04-Sep-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you know if yannick always plans on being a construction planet? or will it also be manufacturing? [04-Sep-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd718bda0d0** left.* [04-Sep-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: eminence - I would be fine with construction or metalurgy or manufacturing. I am currently going along with what Deckss wants. But you know ... it is a democratic process afterall. [04-Sep-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure sure [04-Sep-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i was mostly wondering if yannick was construction to help the initial build-out of the planet [04-Sep-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am currently doing, contstruction, metalurgy, manufacturing and chemistry. [04-Sep-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sorry, I don't know what the rational is for construction. We started out manufacturing. Deckss wanted to switch but I don't know why. I try to avoid politics LOL, says the former governor of Giedi Prime. [04-Sep-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: :) [04-Sep-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userec3e103851** left.* [04-Sep-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD yeah the construction switch was because we planned to build some PP3s and PP4s there for afab production. there's a few high tier options and that one seemd the most useful. Manufacturing is good for shipbuilding too but BMPs couls relly mess up our population balance, and electronics would likely invite a IDC farmers, which isn't what we had in mind. So construction seemed best Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― blueheeler and Deckss are the only 2 there and construction was the common idea so construction it is [04-Sep-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: in the same system as a chem planet, and close proximity to other good support planets for high tier fabs, it's a solid option for that stuff with just SEA and INS needed to build [04-Sep-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I like that it has plans for construction. Gives me another planet to expand to that in system. I am probably looking to build out Yannick after I get CB-282d fully going. [04-Sep-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: construction also sounds perfectly find to me. i have a one two-permit construction base on gibson, but it would be more permit-efficient to have two one-permit bases instead [04-Sep-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. We could use a construction COGC nearby aside from Gibson. Other nearest developed planet for construction is Nike in ANT region if I'm not mistaken. [04-Sep-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Libertas is much closer, usually uses FE from Kiruna to make bfabs or STL for higher fabs [04-Sep-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HisShadow** joined.* [04-Sep-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pj.pj** left.* [04-Sep-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ryant1ss0t** joined.* [04-Sep-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Why'd H have to spike right when I needed some T_T [04-Sep-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Eminence Heavy Industries saved me <3 [04-Sep-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DSGaming_V2** left.* [04-Sep-24 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lxgit** left.* [04-Sep-24 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moonyy** joined.* [04-Sep-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: hey folks! its been a while, how we doing? [04-Sep-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we doin' [04-Sep-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KHadSajuuk** joined.* [04-Sep-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KHadSajuuk**: Heyo [04-Sep-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [04-Sep-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dannyhvv** joined.* [04-Sep-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: does the production timer stop when I log out? I swear this timer is doing odd things [04-Sep-24 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no [04-Sep-24 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: production keeps running [05-Sep-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TribunaL**: Why did half of my pioneers run away somewhere? Who will work in my factories now?)0)))) [05-Sep-24 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hildron**: Did they have jobs and habitation? If not they will leave. In your base screen there is a workforce overview where you can see your required and current workforce and your current habitation capacity [05-Sep-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TribunaL**: There is work and a place to live, the luxury is over( [05-Sep-24 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0cc63c63ff** left.* [05-Sep-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***drums124** left.* [05-Sep-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FLY.NN** joined.* [05-Sep-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***snopstor** joined.* [05-Sep-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Why is the FX so damn complicated [05-Sep-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melody** joined.* [05-Sep-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Squrfles** joined.* [05-Sep-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WeideX31** joined.* [05-Sep-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: good question Doppy... they've fixed it a little I think, but it's still got some unneccesary stuff going on there for sure [05-Sep-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Veloci7y** left.* [05-Sep-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Schipach** joined.* [05-Sep-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GermanHerman** left.* [05-Sep-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd523c5f5c0** left.* [05-Sep-24 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gobblemaster3000** joined.* [05-Sep-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OnlyBear** joined.* [05-Sep-24 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MiKO237** joined.* [05-Sep-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MiKO237**: does your company get disbanded if you do not play over some period of time? [05-Sep-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html#im-going-to-be-away-from-the-game-for-some-time-how-are-inactive-accounts-handled {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [05-Sep-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MiKO237**: thanks! [06-Sep-24 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Anyone able to sell me some rations? [06-Sep-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: sure . put ad on market [06-Sep-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: What /u [06-Sep-24 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: 1cis [06-Sep-24 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: kk [06-Sep-24 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Done [06-Sep-24 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: well make it 500 rat and dw [06-Sep-24 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Alright [06-Sep-24 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Done [06-Sep-24 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: you need something else? you build something? [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nah [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm chill on imports [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Just forgot about rations somehow [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: TY [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I owe you one [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: ok. enjoy ..let me know if need anything [06-Sep-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Will do! 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[06-Sep-24 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OptimizedFunction** deleted this message.* [06-Sep-24 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/legacy-tutorials/planetary-projects/index.html#voting-for-programs {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/legacy-tutorials/planetary-projects/index.html 6. Planetary Projects :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [06-Sep-24 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: More detailed ^^ [06-Sep-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MeinGhost** joined.* [06-Sep-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: Oh Governor, eh? Very nice. And how did you get that? By exploiting the workers. Not us, I mean the PIO, SET, and what not. [06-Sep-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Uh oh, next the Castille-Ito Director of Coordination will issue a contract for delivery of 1 Tri-glycerid Shrubbery. (One that looks nice. And not too expensive.) [06-Sep-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: mat ni [06-Sep-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm. there's actually no Nickel in this game. bummer. otherwise it could be turned into batteries or uhhh stuff [06-Sep-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: hey folks! [06-Sep-24 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Hello, welccome to Katoa. [06-Sep-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: oh ive been here for a bit lol [06-Sep-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: but thanks, hows it going? [06-Sep-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It's going good. Sorry, I did not recognize you. [06-Sep-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: all good, its been a few days since I was on for more than 10 minutes lol [06-Sep-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't chat often but I am waiting for a ship to arrive at Katoa. [06-Sep-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah okay [06-Sep-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: How are you getting along? Is there anything that you need? [06-Sep-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: im just working on getting new buildings up [06-Sep-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: I think Im good! my production is going pretty well, making a decent profit. I am trying to build a settler habitation tho [06-Sep-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @BlueHeeler I heard through the grapevine you can make CQL for ship upgrades... any truth to that? [06-Sep-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, I just finished one. [06-Sep-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: What do you charge for those? [06-Sep-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: But it is already spoken for. [06-Sep-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 1M [06-Sep-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I haven't seen hardly any hit the CX in months [06-Sep-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I'm in need of one if you have a waiting list lol [06-Sep-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No, I noticed that. My process are on Yannick and we are just getting started there so I am somewhat short of workers. [06-Sep-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Would you like me to start one for you? [06-Sep-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: That would be excellent. [06-Sep-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay, I will give you a timeline shortly. [06-Sep-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: especially if its on Yannick :D [06-Sep-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @RamenTheKid - I make prefabs on Katoa. I can sell you what you need for the HB1 cheap. [06-Sep-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @blueheeler Thanks but I just bought all th eparts lol... Although if you have anything for a refinery, Id be down to buy that off ya! [06-Sep-24 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am looking at @CousinEddies request right now. I will get back to you if I have the parts for a REF. [06-Sep-24 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @blueheeler thanks! [06-Sep-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @CousinEddie - I have put the CQL in the queue but I have missing intermediates that need to be made. It might take a week to build it. [06-Sep-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: No problem. I can pay on a contract whenever you're ready. [06-Sep-24 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Pay when it is build. [06-Sep-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: That million is going to burn a hole in my pocket lol [06-Sep-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @RamenTheKid - I am short of parts for the REF, sorry. I have been building like made. later I will have more and I will ask you again. [06-Sep-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you want I will take you CIS now. [06-Sep-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Oh I was just kidding. It can wait. [06-Sep-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Fine with me. [06-Sep-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: @RamenTheKid - I have a handful of extra BTA lying around if you fall short on your HB1/2s [06-Sep-24 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I had another look and I am flush with BBH, not much of the other requirements. @RamenTheKid [06-Sep-24 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Are you PRO? Can I send you a contract for 6 BBH at 1 CIS each? [06-Sep-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @Blueheller all good thank you! [06-Sep-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: @Cousin Yeah ill take those, I think im getting a HB 1 soon, how much for the BTA? 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[07-Sep-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You will be very hard pressed to find C producers on Katoa. [07-Sep-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Proxion has C producers. [07-Sep-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Detheroc** joined.* [07-Sep-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tuottaja** left.* [07-Sep-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ah crud does anyone have a basic bulkhead? [07-Sep-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, i have a few. send a contract, or LM ad [07-Sep-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RamenTheKid** deleted this message.* [07-Sep-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RamenTheKid**: ayy thanks bro, now my fuel production is from 1500/d to 2100/d [07-Sep-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I wish I could see my lifetime production stats [07-Sep-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnidentifiedCatfisher** joined.* [07-Sep-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that'd be neat [07-Sep-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Be cool to look at how much you've made [07-Sep-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***basetec** left.* [07-Sep-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***howitzer00** left.* [07-Sep-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shugas** joined.* [07-Sep-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Artificialities** joined.* [07-Sep-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mads372f** left.* [07-Sep-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11b2936031** left.* [07-Sep-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user50ce1dd0a0** left.* [07-Sep-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UnidentifiedCatfisher**: I just started, how can I check the current prices of materials? [07-Sep-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there are a few ways to do that. you can open a buffer with the "CX CI1" command, which will show you price for everything at the CI1 commodity exchange [07-Sep-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you know the ticker of the material, you can open a buffer with "CXP ABC.CI1" (replace "ABC" with the material you're interested in) [07-Sep-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me personally, the order book is generally the first thing i look for when i want to know price info [07-Sep-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: eeeyyyy, eminence [07-Sep-24 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Still selling cheap H to newbies? [07-Sep-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hello! that program is on pause for the moment, as we're trying to focus on bringing down the price on CI1 to more sustainable and stable levels [07-Sep-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah I noticed that, that spike on CI.H was huge, almost to 400 [07-Sep-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: CI1.H [07-Sep-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eminence32** deleted this message.* [07-Sep-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: heck, however you tag it. Anyway, looking back in time, the price has been rather stable around 110. What happened, anyone know? [07-Sep-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: shoot, i hate this chat interface... i move my mouse over the "H.CI1" hyperlink and a "delete message" link appears there instead [07-Sep-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Or just in general. Is it the whole CX that's inflated? [07-Sep-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I disabled delete option with PMMG [07-Sep-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: smart [07-Sep-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Well heck, ig I am buying full price then. oh well, can't get handouts everyday [07-Sep-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Still curious as to why things been rising. Too many buys not enough sells? [07-Sep-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, overall volume looks unchanged to my eyeballs, so some producers left the market [07-Sep-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scav** joined.* [07-Sep-24 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe people are producing a whole bunch of Manufacturing since that's what is being boosted, and that leaves other, smaller things to just be ignored [07-Sep-24 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: People could also be buying more from out of system/CIS than the CIS community can produce, 'nother idea [08-Sep-24 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Senjay** joined.* [08-Sep-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodEater** joined.* [08-Sep-24 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0159febd6e** left.* [08-Sep-24 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bibo89** left.* [08-Sep-24 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nocalose** joined.* [08-Sep-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aarkein_Devade** left.* [08-Sep-24 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***enotflecs** joined.* [08-Sep-24 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: Can we stop trying to switch COGC to fuel production. I actually don't make enough NAB really... [08-Sep-24 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **The_Secretariat**: My 1600 is only going to last me like 3 days :( [08-Sep-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snifflypig** joined.* [08-Sep-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: eww NAB [08-Sep-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Why not though? It would benefit the newer players. Manufacturing only really helps out those who have built there base expecting it to be a manufacturing safehaven [08-Sep-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: This is a starter world after all. Kinda cheap to bogard the fact that this world can have near infinite starting players just to load up on manufacturing bases [08-Sep-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UnidentifiedCatfisher**: how do I get BSE, BBH, BDE, and MCG? [08-Sep-24 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UnidentifiedCatfisher**: I'm new and saw that aluminum is pretty expensive and I don't have the materials to make a smelter because I picked fuel engineer. [08-Sep-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: buy it on the BEN CX [08-Sep-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **UnidentifiedCatfisher**: there's no way to harvest it? [08-Sep-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @atlantisrising169 Its very expensive to fund the CoGC on a planet with so many bases. I don't think the CoGC bonus will be able to pay off that cost overall because the margins on fuel are quite low. [08-Sep-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: The CoGC upkeep scales with number of bases. And we don't need 200 fuel refining bases + CoGC bonus. About 10x 1 permit bases using even NAB would cause a massive oversupply at about 90k SF per day (without CoGC, mind you) and about 630k per week. Already more than the #1 guy. The BEN market will be flooded and prices will just die probably [08-Sep-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: correction, numbers will be closer to 50k and 350k but you get the point. [08-Sep-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: people switching to manufacturing is just better [08-Sep-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @UnidentifiedCatfisher if you wanted to make your own BSE "from scratch", you first have to find a planet with aluminium ore or iron ore. and then smelt that ore into AL or FE. and then you can use it as inputs to a prefab planet which will produce the BSE [08-Sep-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: To those who keep going on aboutthe bonus. Have a look at who supports this planets upkeep by way of taxes. Look at the local rules. Chemistry, Electronic, Construction and Manufacturing provide the funds to keep this government functioning and growing. [08-Sep-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (and taxes for fuel refining is at the lowest possible rate) [08-Sep-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you don't like the Manufacturing bonu you have two choices. Build into manufacturing or go somewhere else and see how much it costs to establish a high functioning planets such as this. In the mean time use your experts to get a bonus on your fuel production. [08-Sep-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I started as a fuel producer but recognized very early that producing fuel is nicle and dime. Move on to things that sell for the big credits. [08-Sep-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Leave fuel producing to the startups. [08-Sep-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Playing devils advocate, the places that do need fuel are MOR and ANT. [08-Sep-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That's interesting information, DoppyRex. Thanks for sharing. [08-Sep-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KING_BR3AD** joined.* [08-Sep-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: We get a breakdown of which industry gives what taxes? Not the amount per production, but how much each sector contributes a cycle? [08-Sep-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unfortunately not [08-Sep-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: More stats in client would be helpful for sure [08-Sep-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So what I am hearing is that there isn't a way to back up that claim of who's providing the most in taxes? Especially considering that EDC/IDC have been money printers for a while (from what I have been hearing in various chats) [08-Sep-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Playing on that advocate for the Devil, we could boost the production of fuel on here, and the bigger players could buy in large quantity (thus keeping prices highish here) and distribute throughout the galaxy. Thus providing for the entire galaxy and helping our local startup planet [08-Sep-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I never was a fan of the "forced options" of others. Door number 3 for me plz [08-Sep-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user86b982581c** left.* [08-Sep-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's not quite the right conclusion. here's one thing you could check yourself (without having to trust government numbers) a single refinery producing SF will pay about 10 CIS per day in taxes. [08-Sep-24 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a weaving plant (which is a manufacturing building) making cotton fabric will pay about 160 CIS per day in taxes. a 3d printer making PSM will pay about 165 CIS per day in taxes [08-Sep-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I pay 3160/wk. [08-Sep-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: In production fees that is. I assume that's what's being talked about... [08-Sep-24 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: another way to look at it is with area. assuming 500 area, you can fit 20 REFs in there, each paying 10 CIS per day in taxes (production fees). so that's 200 CIS per day. a BMP (another manufacturing building) is smaller, so you can fit 41 BMPs in the same area, paying 648 CIS per day in taxes, more than 3x the refinery base [08-Sep-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: It's also important to note that there are multiple active projects under way to boost Fuel Production and the required infrastructure to support it in Benten [08-Sep-24 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: now the thing that we can't know is how many fuel buildings exist on katoa versus how many manufacturing. but from publicly available info it should be clear that people manufacturing buildings pay way more in taxes than fuel refining buildings [08-Sep-24 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Yeah, I'm not super rich or anything, but I *am* attempting to help fuel refiners here by doing exactly what you said and posting higher bids just to ship it to other CX to sell. That not a super profitable way to play though, I'm just trying to help. I also did set the taxes on fuel refining and resource extraction to minimum here to reduce the overhead for new players as much as I can. But eminence is right about the problem of volume. Sure a boost in production would help you make for money for a little while, but the CX price would correct based on actual demand for fuel, and your profit would end up looking about the same, just with morre shipping involved... [08-Sep-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: a base of BMPs can make sometimes twice as much as a base of REF, which means the 25% boost is twice as effective for them. The CoGC has flipped a couple times in the past, but ultimately it's not older players being mean that keeps it manufacturing, it's natural market correction. [08-Sep-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: if enough people are producing fuel here to win the CoGC vote, that implies a pretty insane about of fuel production. more than there is probably demand for. So fuel becomes less profitable and people stop making it, and manufacturing wins the vote again. [08-Sep-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: As gov here I do really try to do as much as I can to help new players producing fuel here cause I think that's part of my job governing a starter planet for fuel. But I don't think that a fuel CoGC is a super simple "helps new players" solution like it sounds. It's a more complicated game than that [08-Sep-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also consider: hat katoa is a good fuel starter planet *and also* a manufacturing planet, there is not necessarily conflict here. katoa *is* a good starter planet. you're in the same system as the CX, you've got AMM+GAL right here, and H near by, if mining it yourself is your think. once you grow beyond what katoa can provide, you're in a good position to find a fuel-refining planet, or diversify into manufacturing [08-Sep-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Hmm. I'll concede to the points of market pressure, but I feel the points on taxes are a bit weak, as a correction in taxes could cover that. That and I feel it also assumes that everyone would just tear up their base to fit the new model, which isn't a smart business practice anyway. Also, I don't see how this is a good Manufacturing planet other than it being close to CX to have access to whatever material you needed. None of the resources, except for literally one recipe with H2O for the APF building. [08-Sep-24 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: --are used for Manufacturing (forgot to add that in) [08-Sep-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: people can and do change the build composition of their base. for example, i used to have extractors to get GAL, but eventually i decided to deconstruct them instead of repairing them [08-Sep-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Katoa has been Manufacturing since before I started playing (1,256 days ago), so it is entrenched. [08-Sep-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That said, not all of my processes are Manufacturing but I compesate with Experts. [08-Sep-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm not saying they can't, I'm pointing out they are not likely to flip their base on a whatever the whim of the current CoGC [08-Sep-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Back when I started we didn't have a warehouse or a local market. Imagine what that was like. [08-Sep-24 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Not much different than how I play now, really [08-Sep-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You probably have no use for Engineers ot Scientists as well. [08-Sep-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Then again, I've been here all of 18 days. That said I am not truly trying to raize the crowd here, just pointing out there are other options than 'get with it or get out' [08-Sep-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Which is not a new player friendly mindset [08-Sep-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: But, that is the way it is. [08-Sep-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: Mmm I agree that the Get with it or get out mindset is terrible. [08-Sep-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Who has that mindset? [08-Sep-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: And people really do love perpetuating it [08-Sep-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That saying icks me to no end, in game and real life. It "is" this way because it was made this way, by humans, and can be changed as such [08-Sep-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Where did that even come from? [08-Sep-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Because I said it. [08-Sep-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I said, if you don't like the majority decision to have Manufactoring as the COGC you either tool up to it or find somewhere else. [08-Sep-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: You sound very fun at a party [08-Sep-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Manufacturing is not a best fit for me by like I said I use Experts to balance it out. [08-Sep-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It is Manufacuring by democratic process, for fuck sake. [08-Sep-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Here's the deal. This is more of an economy simulator than a "game". Your job, is to build a business within the confines of the "game". You can do so at an entry level, and or at a governmental level. In any case, if you want/need guidance on how to navigate such a "game" to be successful, there is no shortage of friendly names here to help you. [08-Sep-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Not exactly. You must have pro to vote. Not even basic can vote [08-Sep-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: My dude, it is still a game. [08-Sep-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That intristically gates out new player that are wanting to taste the game before biting in [08-Sep-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Gates out a good number of players, actually. Not very democratic [08-Sep-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: and yet here you are trying to tell the world how the game should change... [08-Sep-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: >>literally said I'm not trying to raize the crowd, only pointing out there are other options [08-Sep-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: No one here wants to push a new player away, in fact we're working on projects to keep people engaged... but if it isn't for you, just stop playing. [08-Sep-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i agree it sucks a bit that free players can't vote for cogc, but... anyone with pro can vote [08-Sep-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: I guess he just wants people not to play the game with how toxic they are. [08-Sep-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: DIdn't say it wasn't for me, thanks for the suggestion though [08-Sep-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: "don't like it go elsewhere" Good way to kill off the new players. [08-Sep-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Great, go build your business. [08-Sep-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: Nah I am deleting because of you. [08-Sep-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Bye Felicia. [08-Sep-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Oop. COLIQ they go [08-Sep-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: If that's how the older player base acts. then I want no part. [08-Sep-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Senjay**: No, I am deleting. [08-Sep-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Unfortunate. Hope you find happiness wherever your travels take you [08-Sep-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hey, let's all be friendly here [08-Sep-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Just giving my 2 cents here. It's about all I can afford right now [08-Sep-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: So besides changing the government, how can we help you? Do you need help with materials, next steps, early game strategies? [08-Sep-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Materials would be helpful. Other than that I have an idea of what I want to do, even if it isn't the most profitable [08-Sep-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: What kind of materials are you in need if? [08-Sep-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: *of [08-Sep-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Look, I find it really unfair to have to pay 17K for a single unit of Tungsten, but that is the game. I don't like it so I make my own. I had to build the process and supply the raw material. [08-Sep-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: H GAL AMM. I am self sufficient elsewhere, at least for... 15 days, before I need other upkeep things [08-Sep-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah no need to be rude, but also, I don't even know where the offense came from... nobody is trying to push out new players. Saying "do this or get out" is a very unfair way of rephrasing the advise of experienced players. People tend to build on planets based on their CoGC bonus. Katoa has been a starter planed since the universe creation and early on it was more beneficial to early players, who could not expand to new planets, to choose a very versatile CoGC. Once people *could* expand to new planets, players from other places started moving here *because* of the Manufacturing bonus. That's just some context of how it became an thing that is hard to change now. The advise I think experenced players would give to new fuel manufacturers now is: fuel is great. Some fuel production is useful and the high volume it trades at makes it a nice start for a new player with benefits that can make up for it not being the most profitable. You don't have to just do fuel though. [08-Sep-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: use the fuel money to build some BMPs and start working into the extremely useful, versatile, and beneficial industry of manufacturing... [08-Sep-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: fuel is a good start, and manufacturing is a good goal [08-Sep-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: supporting a manufacturing CoGC is not the same thing as NOT supporting new players [08-Sep-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it's an economy sim, and economies are complicated. Katoa fuel refining is a great start. [08-Sep-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Katoa fuel CoGC is not neccessarily in even those new players best interest though [08-Sep-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [08-Sep-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am just sick of this argument everytime here is a new bunch of players [08-Sep-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That's fair, I suppose the rephrase is a bit charged, albeit I don't resend it as I felt that was the intent behind it [08-Sep-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: there not here [08-Sep-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're here for 10 days ans start wanting to change something that has been functioning just fine for years. [08-Sep-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it is frustrating though. Katoa fuel refining is a decent start CoGC or not. but the mindset that not having the CoGC makes fuel refining unprofitable leads a lot of new players here to COLIQ and move when that's really not neccessary at all [08-Sep-24 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: in all fairness, though the system has been working fine for years, it is not at all intuitive to a new player *why* it is the way it is [08-Sep-24 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I don't think it should change, and my priority is helping new players here, but it takes a lot to explain why and most of the time just doesn't make sense to a new player [08-Sep-24 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: idk [08-Sep-24 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You new guys should take a look and see how unfair the rules are there for you Pioneers. [08-Sep-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: To that note, would a fuel refining CoGC be useful to any planet? It seems that no matter what planet it would be on it would be outclassed by a more profitable industry [08-Sep-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I meant at Yannick - got ahead of myself. [08-Sep-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: What rules? I'm not following there [08-Sep-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I meant it, go look at the rules at Yannick. [08-Sep-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: mmm. rules are taxes and fees. gotcha [08-Sep-24 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, 45 for Pioneers for all trades. [08-Sep-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 20 for Engineers and Scientists. [08-Sep-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The opposite to Katoa. [08-Sep-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Oh, so you just discovered the rules? [08-Sep-24 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: i just also wanna say that sometimes its not *always* about most profitable but also fun factor for instance the reason i decided to do fuel refining (and i coliqed quiet a bit before in my earlier days) is due to my head canon of there not being very many and wanting to help. I also dont use my gal anymore as i do the SF that takes NAB instead even if it takes a little longer it gives more in the end. is that the most profitable option idk but it is the most interesting for me [08-Sep-24 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Kinda what I was asking about what rules, yeah [08-Sep-24 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You have missed half this conversation. Go look at the rules for Katoa. [08-Sep-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I saw, it's cheap for fuel refining and pioneers, 10 each [08-Sep-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That is what sets the taxes. [08-Sep-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't have any Pioneers on Katoa. [08-Sep-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @atlantisrising169 yeah that's the thing. fuel trades fast, but that means that the price corrects pretty swiftly to supply and demand. And the output options of a fuel refinig base are not flexible... with other types of bases, especially manufacturing, you can just change what you're making as prices/damand shifts. Fuel can't, so sure you could use a bonus to make a lot, but then you'd probably drive the price down, countering the bonus some, and have no option but to either keep making more, or demolish and move on... [08-Sep-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yannik is also <1/100 the population of Katoa, and the government needs to run somehow [08-Sep-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No you missed the point. We want to attract High Value industry. [08-Sep-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: There are no resources to speak of on Yannick. [08-Sep-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Seems like more options need to be instituted for fuel refining, such as that warp fuel for warp gates [08-Sep-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: another downside to fuel ive noticed is that a lot of older players have their own supply so dont normally need to buy from others as much [08-Sep-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Even food scales with increased gameplay, such as orchids and fermenters, but fuel just has its 2 fuels which are both made from the same building [08-Sep-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: This is more a game issue than planet issue, but still [08-Sep-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: what would you suggest as options [08-Sep-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have four bases that have 1 REF each so that I can refuel there without carrying fuel. But still need to by a lot on Katoa. [08-Sep-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: also SF has been steadily rising if you take a look at the chart [08-Sep-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: thats due to the MM changing, from what I hear [08-Sep-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: whats MM [08-Sep-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: increasing diversity of recipes, would increase demand of respective ingredients, though might drive down demand in current ingredients. Make more efficient fuels for better ships, requiring different buildings and recipes (thus different ingredients). The warp gates, and their respective fuels, will be a boon in that market [08-Sep-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Just a few ideas off the top of my head [08-Sep-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the MM changes for SF are due to the long-term upward price trend, not the other way around [08-Sep-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: i see MM and think master modes [08-Sep-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: MM - marker maker [08-Sep-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: ? [08-Sep-24 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you look at the SF order book you'll see the market maker [08-Sep-24 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a game agent who will always buy or sell at some price [08-Sep-24 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: ooooh i didnt know thats what that was reffered to [08-Sep-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: i think for me a min of somewhere around 10.5 is profitable for me so i hope it never goes that low lol [08-Sep-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not every order book as a market maker. sometimes a very rich human player can take the role of a market maker, too [08-Sep-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Well here is a problem that I have with fre players. I often would like to offer cheap items but cannot because they cannot accept contracts. [08-Sep-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: People been complaining about MM as a general concept in the discord I frequent [08-Sep-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh? [08-Sep-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: we can accept contracts we just cant make them [08-Sep-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Oh, I stand corrected. That will help in the future. Thanks. [08-Sep-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: to be honest, i almost never interact with in-game market makers [08-Sep-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Caboose1065**: yea np i used to have a trade deal with another player thats how i know [08-Sep-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6f5bd4dfd2** left.* [08-Sep-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have to all the time with NA, making CL produces so much NA but there is no market for it. [08-Sep-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: They manly complain about IDC and EDC being money printers. Haven't seen it myself, but it makes sense since it requires no input to make [08-Sep-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: IDC was one of the ones hit by the change in MM, so idk how well that still holds [08-Sep-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When I am not making WAI, I make IDC to keep my workers busy - there is not inputs. [08-Sep-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have not sold IDC after the change so I don't know what the issue is. [08-Sep-24 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Gees, I sound illiterate - is not inputs. I need to go do something else. I think I have ship in port. [08-Sep-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: frr, keep meaning to sell buy and ship out again [08-Sep-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, i don't know why there's a MM for IDC. but for a game this small, i argue that we need market makers [08-Sep-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: They may have to change that. The ones that are posted at Ask will never sell. But they are being silly if you ask me. It costs nothing except manpower to make IDC. They should just sell off to the MM. [08-Sep-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: 15,300 is a decent price even though it takes 22h 6m to make. [08-Sep-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Bye, time to walk my dog. I have ships arriving after though. [08-Sep-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah that's the issue people have with it though, it just prints money, which in turn inflates the economy [08-Sep-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My processes are always busy making WAI which require significant inputs. When I am waiting for inputs I will make IDC but that is not very often because I have to make IMM and SNM occaisionally as well. [08-Sep-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: But, the Scientists and Engineers are expensive to provide resources for. [08-Sep-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Did a lil mathy math, upkeep for a SL is ~9.8k/d, making for 5.5k/d profit on IDC [08-Sep-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Source is prosper.run for upkeep costs, then inputting each material into the CX to see current prices [08-Sep-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mind you, MEA is almost 70% of that cost, which can be mitigated through owning a FP and buying the needed materials. [08-Sep-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I almost can't afford the hydrogen anymore to make fuel lol... That stuff is getting expensive [08-Sep-24 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orcuss** joined.* [08-Sep-24 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: frrr, I bought enough for my next queue but will have to use this set for next buy. Ultimately I need to get more liquidity so I can go longer without shipping, but I am not there yet [08-Sep-24 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Aandark if you place a buy order at 115, i'll try to fill it at that price [08-Sep-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: we're working on it :) WH on CB-282d is upgraded for easier H pickup there. POPI also upgraded and filled to help grow population faster. so if you want a loan to build on CB-282d let me know [08-Sep-24 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That offer limited to them emi? :eyes: [08-Sep-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no. i'm trying to fill every hydrogen order around the 120/115 price. if you can afford to wait, place your buy orders around there. no need to pay the high 200 price unless you need the hydrogen immeditally [08-Sep-24 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: nope! message me on discord if you're interested! I'm off to sleep now though [08-Sep-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I can afford to wait a bit, sure. Also maybe on the loan, but I want to learn the game more before I look at next base [08-Sep-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: lol, idk who you were asking but we got you πŸ‘ [08-Sep-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Asking Eminence about H, then Cpt about the loan [08-Sep-24 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Have good sleep, oh cap'n my cap'n [08-Sep-24 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Any reason y'all chose to sponsor CB-282d instead of JS-952f? [08-Sep-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: JS-952 is out in the middle of nowhere [08-Sep-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh wait, sorry [08-Sep-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It's only 2 jumps from CX, while CB-282 is 4 [08-Sep-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i was confusing that with another JS system [08-Sep-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: All good lol [08-Sep-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yields on CB_282 are better than JS_952 [08-Sep-24 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anyway, I see that cb-282d has better H production, but I don't have the math as to whether its worth extra costs in FL and SL [08-Sep-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 1138 per day versus 778 per day [08-Sep-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I sold all my FL since I work within range of the CX. Figured I will get around to it later so I don't even know how costs/distance works with them [08-Sep-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ..Is that for each extractor, or assuming a full base of extractors? [08-Sep-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's for a full base with 5 experts [08-Sep-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @AtlantisRising - when I said that my Scientists were expensive to provide consumables for it was in the context of the processsitting idle. So it would cost 9.8k/d without any profit to offset. That is why I would make an IDC rather than have the process sit idle. I was unaware that others were using the SL to 'print money'. [08-Sep-24 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I use the SL to make WAI which is one of the intermediates for ship parts. [08-Sep-24 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: While I make most of my credits selling AFABs , I also sell discount ship parts. [08-Sep-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It wasn't a dig at you, I was just doing the math to show how it was doing what I said it was (more so what others say it does, but small details). From what I gather the issue is just the MM for it in general, with lots of talk about the game is meant to be a player-centered, npc barely tolerated economy (mainly in the form of faction contracts) [08-Sep-24 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: After all, money does need to be generated to offset losses from players quitting the game, which that money does not go back into the economy [09-Sep-24 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EnvyF** left.* [09-Sep-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***9845465** joined.* [09-Sep-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***piter1354** joined.* [09-Sep-24 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Idk what went on last night, but rereading the conversation. I just want to add I think experienced players provide a lot to new players in terms of help and advice (Which matches up with my limited experience here.). SF is in no way unprofitable even with the current margins on Inputs -> Outputs. Especially with the recent MM changes, wait till you've got a full ship 8K/around about there and fly to MOR or ANT, you can sell at just below the current price (above the old MM) and still make a nice margin on it (FF cost around the same price point and is quicker than intra system travel, for the transport). Even if I then bought every input at the currently inflated price ratios on MOR (Up from here on BEN), I would still be making 25K profit a day with my 13 REF's or more reasonable for a new player 2 REF's would still be making 4K profit a day. Which is good margins for a new-starter [09-Sep-24 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***devinterx** joined.* [09-Sep-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aspii** joined.* [09-Sep-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: So I've just started a motion for a pretty big tax increase. When I first started governing here I dropped taxes a little because I could afford it then, but upkeep has gotten higher as the population grows and taxes are no longer enough to cover it. Currently, taxes only cover about half of the upkeep cost at CX rates, that does not include needed upgrades for infrastructure either. Now that gateway bill of materials has been dropped (expensive is an understatement) and governments are responsible for developing those... I think it's finally time that I just aim big with taxes, catch up on what I'm still owed for upkeep, then build a savings for the planet and start working on gateway plans. I can always drop them back down in the future, but Katoa is the biggest planet in BEN CX system and I think that it's going to be on us to help create some of these important gateways for the Benten area. [09-Sep-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I will continue to be transparent with all tax spending, and I will likely post a list soon of prices that Katoa government will pay for certain materials on the gateway parts list. So if you're looking to help out there keep an eye out. [09-Sep-24 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I think that Benten is an incredible region with a ton of great planets for many many different industries and gateways could be an incredible way to boost the region and really show off how good it can be. Not to mention faster connections with Arclight could open up many options too. I'm pretty excited. If you're interested in spinning up some production of any of the gateway materials let me know and I'll loan whatever support I can [09-Sep-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yikes, look at these materials: https://youtu.be/s8D1XJlxygQ {Embed} Prosperous Universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8D1XJlxygQ Work in progress - gateway information https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/iCi2aO3SRgwA8hrXPtnp_IqjWgFEoUr1ObSUw4bBcUo/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/s8D1XJlxygQ/sddefault.jpg [09-Sep-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Lowstrife did a quick estimate of total cost at almost 200 mil, and that's not even including the 4 unknown materials that will likely have insane input requirements specifically for this... [09-Sep-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: for context, katoa makes like 730k per week right now and costs a bit over 1 mil per week... [09-Sep-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: so this is why I decided to finally just bump taxes and build a savings for the planet if possible [09-Sep-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: planning for the future is always wise πŸ‘ [09-Sep-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: wow.. and there's my thinking permits upgrades used a lot of afabs!! :O [09-Sep-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My opinion: the gateway should not be paid for with taxes. [09-Sep-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I would be happy helping out with gateway mats. [09-Sep-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I would help out with prefabs [09-Sep-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Or materials in general - especial things that I produce. [09-Sep-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I could not read the list of materials on the YouTube. [09-Sep-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: it was a little blurry [09-Sep-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @CptColeslaw - I agree that you should not be subsidizing a planet the size of Katoa. [09-Sep-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Please do not feel you need to pay me for my voluntary contributions. [09-Sep-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I would like to pitch in as well! Let me know where I can help. Financially or otherwise :) [09-Sep-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @BlueHeeler is your thinking something like: gateways might benefit only certain select players (people doing lots of long-distance shipping) and so the gateway cost should be primarily on the people using it? [09-Sep-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When things are built with contributions rather than taxes, the peopple who contribute get recognized. That is how the foundations of Katoa were built. [09-Sep-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @eminence32 - no, I mean don't mean that at all. There is no appreciation for the players that are contributing with taxes because it is hidden. [09-Sep-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah, I mean, in the end it's clear that taxes are not even capable of covering this cost anyway. I do think that I'll use taxes to fill gaps in materials to build gateways on Katoa, but donations will also definitey be needed and I'll be contributing what I can myself [09-Sep-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I think if you want a gateway you should show your support by contributing. [09-Sep-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, that's an interesting argument, thanks for clarification [09-Sep-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You contribute and then people can see it and have a little respect for those who do. [09-Sep-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah I can see that as a fair point, but once it's built and say like 3+ months after, little to no one will remember it, not like we are making a plaque of donators. I'm personally for subsidizing, at least partially. *Everyone* will benefit from the warpdrive, it makes sense everyone will contribute a little [09-Sep-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Plus it will draw in outside interest if we build fast, which is good for spurring economy, so more incentives to build it fast [09-Sep-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe we just need to hire someone to paint a mural of a nice looking blue heeler on the side of the gateway :) everyone can see it as their ship flies past it! [09-Sep-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Can we make artworks? I'll stand corrected if we could make plaques and the like [09-Sep-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Because I am not against it at all, just seems a bit weak a selling point without it [09-Sep-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm not looking for tokens of appreciation. [09-Sep-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I dont think taxes should pay for the gateway either, even if they actually could lol. I would like to contribute but will need a couple loans to even get bases to help produce. [09-Sep-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @atlantisrising169 - because you have never built or built anything with AFABs you fail to appreciate the stunning cost of building the gateway. [09-Sep-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I can see the costs from that video, don't tell me what I have the capacity to apprecite [09-Sep-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Appreciate* [09-Sep-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Based on my experience so far, i still consider myself new although i have 315 days, the gov on each planet i have based handles all the pop needs so i dont even have to worry. Once i am able to get up to a level where i can i will but until then ill ride some coattails haha they have helped a good bit thus far [09-Sep-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: No shame in taking free advice [09-Sep-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: 315 days in and i still ask questions almost daily. this game has a lot to it [09-Sep-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Praise be the devs for this galactic playground [09-Sep-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, this game as a lot of depth, which makes it great [09-Sep-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I wish I could help as well, but don't have a lot of extra due to expanding to three bases this quick and not having those loans paid back yet. [09-Sep-24 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: When is the planned release of the gateways? [09-Sep-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we don't even have an ETA for the gateway stuff, so we don't need to get ahead of ourselves [09-Sep-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I think a lot of people, myself included, get caught up on trying to help. When sometimes to help requires us to expand a lot, that usually needs some help from those who are primed to do these big projects [09-Sep-24 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Depending on the conditions of the loans, I wouldn't mind taking up a couple, but for the most part I *had* planned to just play this mostly solo [09-Sep-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Solo is fine but its also mad slow! I didnt take any loans until just recently, my economy has exploded since then in comparison [09-Sep-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: @eminence32 What??!! We need to get all the mats ready now! So we can be first out the... Gate'way' first and beat all the other loosres! :'):^) [09-Oct-24 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok thanks for the heads up. let me run a quick spreadsheet and give you a price proposal [09-Oct-24 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (check incoming direct comms) [09-Oct-24 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alpexz** left.* [09-Oct-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smush** joined.* [09-Oct-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 500H is the best price so far for the 100BRM, if anyone wants to join in on the bid [10-Oct-24 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Anyone willing and able to sell me 10 PT? Got an ad on the LM. Thank you [10-Oct-24 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: ty boo [10-Oct-24 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: np [10-Oct-24 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saturne** joined.* [10-Oct-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andavarus** joined.* [10-Oct-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Hello [10-Oct-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Anyone wanna guide a newbie along :D [10-Oct-24 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [10-Oct-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you finished the in-game tutorials? [10-Oct-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Yeah, waiting for my first production to get complete [10-Oct-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SZEfdf** joined.* [10-Oct-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tynicas** joined.* [10-Oct-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emi.CsT** joined.* [10-Oct-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GrimLegion** left.* [10-Oct-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haestrom** joined.* [10-Oct-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mese** joined.* [10-Oct-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Guys my orders have been filled at the local Commodity Exchange, how do i retrieve it? [10-Oct-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: ok it seems like i need to fly there :P [10-Oct-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Get your ship tonthe CX [10-Oct-24 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Open the contracts and fullfill If you dont have a warehouse there [10-Oct-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Gotcha [10-Oct-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you should rent a warehouse at benten station. it's quite cheap and quite useful [10-Oct-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I have too many random warehouses open [10-Oct-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: do you still need AMM? [10-Oct-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nah I solved my shortage for a bit [10-Oct-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: When my lease is over on the 24th, I'll need regular orders. [10-Oct-24 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wes1274** joined.* [10-Oct-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saphira799** joined.* [10-Oct-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera9a7be1fa6** left.* [10-Oct-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scoopahdoopah** joined.* [10-Oct-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jonathan.jss955** left.* [10-Oct-24 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Should i rent a warehouse even though i just started? [10-Oct-24 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: You can hold off till you have a reason. They are cheap and easy to purchase when the need arises [10-Oct-24 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: neat [10-Oct-24 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: They're also just so cheap that even if it was for a minor convenience, it's worth it. But yeah, unless you have a reason, there's no need. [10-Oct-24 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Can i store goods in the warehouse and then sell them instantly when i want? [10-Oct-24 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: so I don't have to fly there often [10-Oct-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oooh, you're talking about on the CX. [10-Oct-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: yes [10-Oct-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Absolutely you want a warehouse there. [10-Oct-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: One should be fine for now. [10-Oct-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can add more whenever you like if you need more room. [10-Oct-24 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: neat [10-Oct-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: most big players used CS warehouse to store their items due to seemingly unlimited storage capacity (assuming you can pay the rent) [10-Oct-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: *CX [11-Oct-24 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wattad** left.* [11-Oct-24 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Big players will likely just post their goods at egregious prices, because as long as it's posted it doesn't take up space in the CX warehouse, so they can use this to not pay the warehouse fee [11-Oct-24 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Good example is the GAL orderbook. Top 2 asks is 8,500 GAL (21250t/8500m3) of stuff, posted almost 4x current lowest ask [11-Oct-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Tax evasion, again only reasonable for the ultra wealthy [11-Oct-24 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: that too but i think it's great only for long term storage [11-Oct-24 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean yeah, but personally i see it as if your money is not growing it is spoiling. Ig after a certain point you don't need to keep growing though [11-Oct-24 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: here is another example why you store material in the cx: i have mined LES on a planet and stored it in the cx, this supply is enough for my production for the next 5 years, the base was demolished and i was able to build a base that generates revenue [11-Oct-24 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ^ This guy invests ^ [11-Oct-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: SF takes up too much space :( [11-Oct-24 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: .. how? It's a 1:1 weight to volume ratio, and doesn't weigh much either [11-Oct-24 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah I just have too much of it. [11-Oct-24 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: and the other good I'm transporting massive quantities of is PE so [11-Oct-24 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: how much you got? [11-Oct-24 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9e5dffccad** left.* [11-Oct-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 70K SF [11-Oct-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean, im nowhere near that level of production, but i keep my fuel in tank low so if i ever go over weight limit i can stuff the extra in the tank to take with me. I need < 300SF to get me to station and back, no need to hold onto extra [11-Oct-24 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tholy** joined.* [11-Oct-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: might as post some well priced ads, 10k units a pop [11-Oct-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: that will clear some space [11-Oct-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nah I've already got a buyer just waiting for space to clear. [11-Oct-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Plus I've got enough PE going out soon that I should get some space back [11-Oct-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: well if you need another buyer... I know a guy xD [11-Oct-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'll need a new buyer on the 24th. [11-Oct-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: feel free to DM me then if you're interested and we'll work out something fair Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [11-Oct-24 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BIG_DICK_NICK** left.* [11-Oct-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TooIrradiated** joined.* [11-Oct-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***seli** joined.* [11-Oct-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere126e3c68a** left.* [11-Oct-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user13e18a72ab** left.* [11-Oct-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user945d67dfc3** left.* [11-Oct-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadowlagann** left.* [11-Oct-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ibmutaib** joined.* [11-Oct-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ibmutaib**: i need a buyer [11-Oct-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [11-Oct-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ibmutaib**: i need a seller i mean [11-Oct-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: seller for what [11-Oct-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ibmutaib**: OVE [11-Oct-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ibmutaib**: MFK and AL [11-Oct-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so you'll want to buy just about all your stuff at the benten commodity exchange [11-Oct-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and then fly a ship there to pick up your goods [11-Oct-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ibmutaib**: thank you [11-Oct-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sames3** joined.* [11-Oct-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yukaryavka** joined.* [11-Oct-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FDSoloss** joined.* [12-Oct-24 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6ed40b6672** left.* [12-Oct-24 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: how do i stick a buffer in apex screen [12-Oct-24 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user66c6e210eb** left.* [12-Oct-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SleepyCatLady** joined.* [12-Oct-24 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: Benton - Katoa Needs You - Got left over stuff? - Invest in our populations infrastructure Now!! [12-Oct-24 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: actually, unless it's for upgrading the UNI we're good. there might be a small dip in PIOs this report but I finally have a PC and internet again post-hurricane so just pay your taxes and I got the rest πŸ’š [12-Oct-24 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***buggy106** joined.* [12-Oct-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: πŸ‘€ [12-Oct-24 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***swadowwolf** left.* [12-Oct-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa [12-Oct-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: COGC on Strike!?!?! [12-Oct-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: In Katoa???? [12-Oct-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: fulfilled the MCG and PE for upkeep but don't have the rats or DW [12-Oct-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ye, was about to look if it needed PE. [12-Oct-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Got plenty on Kat myself. [12-Oct-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: It has been a while since Katoa's COGC has gone on strike [12-Oct-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. Making history here [12-Oct-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i filled the DW and RAT [12-Oct-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can probably talk to cpt and get reimbursed. [12-Oct-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: not needed ;) [12-Oct-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I make enough to be ok [12-Oct-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: was an excoting 2 mins anyway :) [12-Oct-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah haha. A 2 minute crisis. [12-Oct-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: let this be a lesson to any future worker considering a strike! if you strike, we'll throw at you.... **checks notes** food, water, and plasics until you get back to work! [12-Oct-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: don't forget the concrete!! :D [12-Oct-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm partial to throwing chairs at peoples' faces. I like a more tyrannical approach. [12-Oct-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: so what did the strike do o.o [12-Oct-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Nothing I don't think [12-Oct-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: As it was paid [12-Oct-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Shipping contract on Benten Station to haul back some stuff for me. It's not a full ship's worth, and I'm paying 13/t (4000CIS total) [12-Oct-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: A strike means we lose the Cogc bonus for the planet [12-Oct-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: until it is paid up [12-Oct-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: ahh [12-Oct-24 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: any corp recruiting? :D [12-Oct-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. [12-Oct-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: FIOC is open for business. [12-Oct-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frielo39** joined.* [12-Oct-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BVaba** joined.* [12-Oct-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vorgotten** left.* [12-Oct-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Just0M0liner0** joined.* [12-Oct-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user995ca199a2** left.* [12-Oct-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EpicErmine** joined.* [13-Oct-24 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Opekian** joined.* [13-Oct-24 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***johnnyhotbody80** left.* [13-Oct-24 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aisatev** left.* [13-Oct-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cabskii** left.* [13-Oct-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zoknikos** joined.* [13-Oct-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3ea5840c7b** left.* [13-Oct-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: How does it change the game/experience going from sole proprietor to joining a corp? [13-Oct-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it depends very heavily on the corp that you join [13-Oct-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MiD5** joined.* [13-Oct-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkystary** left.* [13-Oct-24 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user19fe401039** left.* [13-Oct-24 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StarLordAries** joined.* [14-Oct-24 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThunderousD** left.* [14-Oct-24 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf0e06ce066** left.* [14-Oct-24 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chroncspazz** left.* [14-Oct-24 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rindula** joined.* [14-Oct-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ai_shiomi** joined.* [14-Oct-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so just like real ife, hmm... [14-Oct-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i was hoping that maybe some of the local corps might take that cue to give you their sales pitch, but it seems the recruitment officers are on a lunch break [14-Oct-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: There seems to be a wide variety of options available. Some are very team oriented and everyone is part of a bigger production chain working toward a communal goal. . [14-Oct-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Others are essentially shell corporations where you're just getting the HQ bonus on some planets and while managing your own business completely. [14-Oct-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I think some also just function as social groups [14-Oct-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: You've got options! [14-Oct-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I'd say check out the UFO discord if you can [14-Oct-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I find it interesting that planet governments need upkeep to keep running, but corps dont [14-Oct-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You'd think OFF would be a constant upkeep at least [14-Oct-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i could see that changing at some point in the future [14-Oct-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Depends on if they add any more functionality to corps. As it is, there is very little being in a corp in game does for you really. The HQ bonus if you're settled on the same planet. But aside from that, not really much tbh. [14-Oct-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I feel like people would demand a boost in corp utility if they had to start dealing with upkeep [14-Oct-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, 100% [14-Oct-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Like it would be cool if corps had their own wallet with like an elected leader of sorts. Could use it to build planetary projects and such. [14-Oct-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Corp owned planets M_M [14-Oct-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RaiNey** left.* [14-Oct-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kilo5** joined.* [14-Oct-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Corps fill like a half filled out idea in someways [14-Oct-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I like that description. Every corp has a "thing" that it does. Just varies corp to corp what that "thing" is. [14-Oct-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I think some more bonuses to economies of scale through corps would be a good idea. [14-Oct-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i slightly worry that too many economies of scale will penalize new or small players [14-Oct-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The other thought is corps transitioning to a more Megacorporation, outlook. I.E running systems and things [14-Oct-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm not meaning anything major more like you can build this corporation project on the planet for +10% [14-Oct-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: To this specific industry [14-Oct-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I think I prefer the idea of Corp owned planet and systems more [14-Oct-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: (Which I guess you can kind of do through Planetary governments?) [14-Oct-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Though Planetary Governments fill like they could also do with an expansion [14-Oct-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Fuck this sort of conversation is what makes me want to code proof of concept shit. [14-Oct-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I know its beyond the scope of this game for now, but imagine you could create stations. Like the CX's but lacking the actual CX. They were mainly just for a System Governor and the warehouse. [14-Oct-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Then planetary governments could make motions to join a "System" Governance. They would pay a fee every week they were a part of the System Governance but in return the System Governance would be able to run big campaigns that improved Efficiency for the system. [14-Oct-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You could even go as far as a System Government could introduce laws lowering individual population upkeep by agreeing to pay some of the upkeep. Like Imagine a mechanic where the system governance could pay the total basic consumable upkeep for a system from the station in return for taxes. [14-Oct-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Anyway out of my day dreams [14-Oct-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this all sounds neat, but i'm not sure what 'problem' is solves (if any) [14-Oct-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakobtheonlyone** joined.* [14-Oct-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEasternSpy** joined.* [14-Oct-24 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Just thought experiments to make corporations and governments more worthwile [14-Oct-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neon223** left.* [14-Oct-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0bby** joined.* [14-Oct-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Private CXs are on the roadmap, and they're sorely needed. Question is whether or not they'd allow you to restrict access. [14-Oct-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you think there are other corps that do as much internal trading as KAWA? [14-Oct-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Not sure how much KAWA does, but FIOC produces a good amount of stuff that never leaves the corp. [14-Oct-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** joined.* [14-Oct-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** left.* [14-Oct-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** joined.* [14-Oct-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: I just bought RAT at Benton Station and they aren't in my ship cargo. I checked my orders and it says filled. Where is my stuff? lol [14-Oct-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Aandark**: NVM. I forgot I had a warehouse rented [14-Oct-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LASy** joined.* [14-Oct-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dio40** left.* [14-Oct-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scoopahdoopah**: bogos binted? [14-Oct-24 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***I_miss_her** joined.* [14-Oct-24 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6e75ebe7b5** left.* [14-Oct-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello my fellow Katoans. FIOC is looking to recruit new members to join us in our endeavors. We are based in all four regions of the universe and are slowly expanding into the outer reaches. We operate based on a gift economy which has allowed for our expansion across the map. Our goals are to expand our existing shipbuilding infrastructure and prepare for the arrival of jump gates. If you are interested in joining us in our goals, check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [15-Oct-24 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sevenseals** joined.* [15-Oct-24 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6eb92d0bcb** left.* [15-Oct-24 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6484ca7924** left.* [15-Oct-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfc6c5d32c1** left.* [15-Oct-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mehlson** left.* [15-Oct-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc0ba9beb86** left.* [15-Oct-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GR_NIK** joined.* [15-Oct-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d177f0fa6** left.* [15-Oct-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Anyone have a couple hundred FF they could sell me real quick? [15-Oct-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Yea I have 350 [15-Oct-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Potentially up to like 700 if I pull some from ships [15-Oct-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Nah, 350 is perfect. [15-Oct-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sending you a contract. [15-Oct-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Tyvm [15-Oct-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Np [15-Oct-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: What does the contract "Provisioning of 28 units of Triglyceride Fruits @ Benten - Katoa (UV-351a)" mean? [15-Oct-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Do I have to buy them at an exchange and just have them on the planet? [15-Oct-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yes. Wherever the contract say you need them, if you have them in your storage there you'll be able to fulfil. That being said with faction contracts, you don't really want to have to buy them off the CX. It's not worth the trouble. [15-Oct-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, once you have them in your inventory on katoa there will be a green "Fullfil" button for you to click [15-Oct-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The FX is a broken mess [15-Oct-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, it's rather confusing [15-Oct-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: CIS/ICA is a different book to ICA/CIS for some reason [15-Oct-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unreal1337** left.* [15-Oct-24 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEasternSpy** deleted this message.* [16-Oct-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Welcra** left.* [16-Oct-24 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: navigation subsystem not ready..for hours now cant send ships..any1 else have that? [16-Oct-24 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoppyRex** deleted this message.* [16-Oct-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bananaknight** left.* [16-Oct-24 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the prun discord there are some server issues, yes [16-Oct-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercf9c201ba8** left.* [16-Oct-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JThezsa** joined.* [16-Oct-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Going to the CX is so expensive early game. It takes me like 24 hours to make back the fuel I used [16-Oct-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you look at the system map: MS UV-351 [16-Oct-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can see that katoa and benten station are currently are far away from each other as possible [16-Oct-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in a few weeks they'll move closer to each other, and the time and fuel to fly to benten will go down by a lot [16-Oct-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Good to know. Had no idea orbits were also modeled [16-Oct-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but yeah, it's kinda annoying at the moment. about how much fuel do you use for a one-way trip? [16-Oct-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: 300 [16-Oct-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok. not unreasonable. i personally try to use about 200 units of fuel, but i'll sometimes use up to 300 if i want to make it to my destination before some deadline [16-Oct-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JThezsa** left.* [16-Oct-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, 200-300 is about standard for me. [16-Oct-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Is it worth it to buy consumables for my Settlers yet? Or should I wait until I have more than 20? [16-Oct-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you have an HB2, you should definitely buy consumables for your settlers. [16-Oct-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you don't, you don't need them yet as you won't actually get any settlers until you can house them. [16-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExcelsiorV2** joined.* [16-Oct-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daleus** joined.* [16-Oct-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexisz998** joined.* [16-Oct-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vorrick** left.* [16-Oct-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eight-7** left.* [16-Oct-24 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Serpentine0_** left.* [16-Oct-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***burntsteelwool** left.* [16-Oct-24 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello fellow Katoans. FIOC is looking for new members to join our ranks. All are welcome, whether you are months old, or just a few days old. We operate based on a gift economy, which has allowed us to build a network of interlinking bases maximizing efficiency across the board. Our current objectives are expanding our ship building infrastructure to handle our increasing rate of expansion, and preparing for the inevitable arrival of jump gates. If you are interested in joining a corporation and feel our philosophy/playstyle might suit you, check out the welcome page on our discord server for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [16-Oct-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravyn** joined.* [17-Oct-24 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeonesLP** left.* [17-Oct-24 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paul-Novak** joined.* [17-Oct-24 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thiccsoviets** left.* [17-Oct-24 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HummerSee451437** joined.* [17-Oct-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xenite** joined.* [17-Oct-24 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Xenite**: Hello [17-Oct-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Hey [17-Oct-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: hm... [17-Oct-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [17-Oct-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: yoo [17-Oct-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daos** joined.* [17-Oct-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user01787a2808** left.* [17-Oct-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Junky** left.* [17-Oct-24 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: Is there a place where corps tend to advertise themselves? Considering FIOC :D but would like to see what other are like too before applying [17-Oct-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: check out the UFO discord [17-Oct-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://discord.gg/4qBZfUne [17-Oct-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's a "recruitment" channel in there somewhere [17-Oct-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Luminight**: nice, thanks! 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[17-Oct-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Speaking of governers, I see Eminence has thrown there hat in the ring [17-Oct-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Factory_Gamer** joined.* [17-Oct-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wasn't going to mention anything until voting started, but yes, i'm running for an MP position (not governorship) [17-Oct-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You got my vote. [17-Oct-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: AttileTheHun from FIOC usually runs, but I don't see him on there anymore. [17-Oct-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's kind of silly for you to vote for me when you're also running :) [17-Oct-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Well you got my vote. Unless Cpt comes through with that government contract I asked about almost a month ago [17-Oct-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: (Also small and unimportant thing I would like to say, I feel it was a missed opportunity to name your Corp "Qeng Ho Trading Co" instead of "Corporation" Eminence) [17-Oct-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hah, that would have been clever [17-Oct-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, i wonder if anyone in the chat gets the "Qeng Ho" reference [17-Oct-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and googling it is cheating ;) [17-Oct-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: tOO lATE, already googled [17-Oct-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Neato tho [17-Oct-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Does it count if I use Brave, so not all my information is stolen when I do it? [17-Oct-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Can I even vote for myself? [17-Oct-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Plus, I have issues with that ethically haha. [17-Oct-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Which part? [17-Oct-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Voting for myself. [17-Oct-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Which I'm not even sure it's possible. [17-Oct-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Ah. It's only 1 vote, I don't think it scales with size of Pop you have [17-Oct-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, you're allowed to vote for yourself when you run for office [17-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Plus even free accounts can vote, unlike with CoCH [17-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and you're right, it's only 1 vote per person [17-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: CoCG* [17-Oct-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: LM. ad up for 10 KOM @900 ea if anyone has excess [17-Oct-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thughunter88** joined.* [17-Oct-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I should have some. [17-Oct-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: GImme a sec [17-Oct-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ya, there ya go. [17-Oct-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***joakeen** joined.* [17-Oct-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Thanks Reaper! 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I can't see any listings? [18-Oct-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: oh nevermind [18-Oct-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: weird [18-Oct-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AmiMisa** joined.* [18-Oct-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user85ee175730** left.* [18-Oct-24 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: I get that bug too [18-Oct-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9a2038ca45** left.* [18-Oct-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaveyOGravy** joined.* [18-Oct-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcanyon** joined.* [18-Oct-24 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on some new members. If you're interested in joining a corp, come check out our welcome page. All are welcome, whether you started a few weeks ago or months/years ago. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [18-Oct-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gumi** joined.* [19-Oct-24 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gk258** left.* [19-Oct-24 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Obscurus** left.* [19-Oct-24 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pabloo** joined.* [19-Oct-24 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Teknyx** joined.* [19-Oct-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pabloo** left.* [19-Oct-24 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1c7bb31999** left.* [19-Oct-24 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saturne** left.* [19-Oct-24 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darklulu50p** joined.* [19-Oct-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCheseeGodOnTheMain** joined.* [19-Oct-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @SilentReaper ping pong [19-Oct-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FTL** joined.* [19-Oct-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pabloo** joined.* [19-Oct-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8f2284e11b** left.* [19-Oct-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IIconicEnigma** joined.* [19-Oct-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kchopsuey0** joined.* [19-Oct-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SZEfdf** left.* [19-Oct-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: how long til katoa and benten station are aligned again [19-Oct-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im sitting on 24k fuel [19-Oct-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ~20 days, leaning towards more [19-Oct-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Prob closer to 30, but idk honestly [19-Oct-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xenite** left.* [19-Oct-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GalaxyBliss** joined.* [19-Oct-24 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Need 1500 MCG. Listing on the LM. [19-Oct-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midlantica** joined.* [19-Oct-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redern** joined.* [19-Oct-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: got you covered [20-Oct-24 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flecser** joined.* [20-Oct-24 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flecser** left.* [20-Oct-24 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***seli** left.* [20-Oct-24 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Any suggestions for a planet in the neighborhood that is good for construction and not full yet? [20-Oct-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Gibson would be your go to planet for that. [20-Oct-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, Gibson is great for anyone just getting into construction [20-Oct-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mainevilhere** joined.* [20-Oct-24 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: How much cash should someone have before starting a second base? [20-Oct-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you should have enough cash to be able to supply the new base with inputs and consumables for 1 or 2 weeks [20-Oct-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: actually both bases [20-Oct-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you don't want to build a new base but then be so broke that you can't afford to supply your bases [20-Oct-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also you should consider filling out your first base before starting a second one. this isn't always required, though. i'm happy to chat about specifics if you want [20-Oct-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AleixBP** joined.* [20-Oct-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: the old tarkov adage: run what you can afford to lose 10 times. translating to put aside cash to meet your flow requirements. I think a good operation should be planned out to 30 days in order to survive instability and uncertainty. you do not want to be in a position where you have to sell your labor too short in order to survive. you will be stuck in a sort of Malthusian state [20-Oct-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sinthalor** joined.* [20-Oct-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ceres** joined.* [20-Oct-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SamIAm512** left.* [20-Oct-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shaco** joined.* [20-Oct-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***H111** joined.* [20-Oct-24 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Should I build 2 Barracks or 1 Settler Hab and 1 Pioneer hab? [20-Oct-24 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: or moreso, 2 pioneer habs and 1 settler hab [21-Oct-24 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: The only reason you would ever want to build hybrid habs is to save space. They are a lot more expensive. [21-Oct-24 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Given you just started 7 days ago, I would avoid the hybrid habs for the time being. [21-Oct-24 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lucislayer** joined.* [21-Oct-24 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krucker** joined.* [21-Oct-24 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Opekian** left.* [21-Oct-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Shipement: I have 240.28m (Vol) and 2240.28t (weight) free onboard for arrival @ BEN [21-Oct-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: due to leave and arrive today. [21-Oct-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Leaving in 1 hour, let me know if you need anything moving [21-Oct-24 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Leaving in 10, due to arrive in 6 hours [21-Oct-24 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lier** joined.* [21-Oct-24 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfd74574c85** left.* [21-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TooIrradiated** left.* [21-Oct-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Can I get a rating on a Free license or am I cooked? [21-Oct-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sagan** left.* [21-Oct-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Broiled brother, it's all behind the paywall [21-Oct-24 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. Kind of sleazy some of the things they keep behind the PRO paywall. But I kind of get it, cause this is such a niche game, they need to make their money somehow. And thank god they aren't loading the game full of microtransactions at least. [21-Oct-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Psst. I know who you are. [21-Oct-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Hail Sithis [21-Oct-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hah, a little TES reference there. [21-Oct-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ButterLotion1** joined.* [21-Oct-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ButterLotion1** left.* [21-Oct-24 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Sanguine, my brother. [21-Oct-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: For a second I thought my corp member was here. [21-Oct-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xandert1029** left.* [21-Oct-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user17f22f7042** left.* [21-Oct-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaZe_ErEcTilEDySfUNcTioN** joined.* [21-Oct-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd14525f34a** left.* [21-Oct-24 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StarLordAries** left.* [22-Oct-24 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: anyone willing to sell me 2 units of spicy herbs for 3000/u at Benten [22-Oct-24 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NvF** left.* [22-Oct-24 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: got it [22-Oct-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Creedstar** joined.* [22-Oct-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0b4f390b6f** left.* [22-Oct-24 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: gonna make some tasty tea? [22-Oct-24 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user50fb1689cb** left.* [22-Oct-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kilo5** left.* [22-Oct-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: As the collective wishes [22-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hey folks. Anyone have 2 BTA to spare? [22-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Can pay big bucks for them. [22-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Well are you in luck today. [22-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've got some [22-Oct-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hell yeah. DoppyRex to the rescue [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hehe [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nooooo [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've got random prefabs just sat around. [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wanted his big bucks [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hehe [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Better luck next time! [22-Oct-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: 2k/u sound good? [22-Oct-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Works for me [22-Oct-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: sent. [22-Oct-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Thank you [22-Oct-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Fufilled [22-Oct-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I still need to give you that 50K SF [22-Oct-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oh right [22-Oct-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: YOu should be able to fulfil now. [22-Oct-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Got the room on Kat finally hehe [22-Oct-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: You've probably got at least 50K more coming before its finished [22-Oct-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm on 30K Currently [22-Oct-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoppyRex** deleted this message.* [22-Oct-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ai_shiomi** left.* [22-Oct-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: If anyone has 2 spare BBH I just posted an ad on the LM at 2600p/u [22-Oct-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: got you [22-Oct-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Thanks! Miscounted at the CX for what I needed for my expansion lol [22-Oct-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krucker** left.* [22-Oct-24 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***I_miss_her** left.* [22-Oct-24 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: We got less than 1% free pop on Pioneers. [22-Oct-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I got some DW coming in tomorrow ish to donate [22-Oct-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Working on some OFF myself as well. Should get some more PIO in there by next popi report. [22-Oct-24 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: How do you influence the population? Like how to you increase total population [22-Oct-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You have to feed the population infrastructure buildings. [22-Oct-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Currently, the Safety station (responsible for Pioneer happiness) is not supplied with anything. [22-Oct-24 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Happiness above 70% for a pop will induce inward migration, while anything below 50% will cause them to emmigrate. [23-Oct-24 01:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Ive offered Cpt to help a bit, he never got back to me on my proposal. Sadly not at a point i can just donate out of kindness [23-Oct-24 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sevenseals** left.* [23-Oct-24 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Nobody will hold it against you. At level 10, that thing costs millions to supply for a month. [23-Oct-24 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: When i talked with cpt, I mathed it to ~1.05M and 43.5d of continious running off one BMP for a 30 supply of OFF SUN and STR [23-Oct-24 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 30d* supply [23-Oct-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That load obviously would be split between multiple BMP, but its doable [23-Oct-24 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I offered to charge only cost in exchange for a 0% loan of unknown size, but we never got there [23-Oct-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: They also said I'd only need to worry about OFF of i was to work for the government, something about only some buildings need work on them [23-Oct-24 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PickA** left.* [23-Oct-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah sorry, hurricane took me out for a few weeks and I was already working on the math for what lowstrife suggested. that's why I'm not filling anything now, no need to donate, fest3 program should be enough. for anyone interested though here's a great guide to how popi upkeep works made by Archiel [23-Oct-24 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDvP3Iz-MDIa_uoQPsJDDOHn72dK7T02k1oAa94K2W0/edit?usp=drivesdk {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDvP3Iz-MDIa_uoQPsJDDOHn72dK7T02k1oAa94K2W0/edit?usp=drivesdk Archiel's Good Governance A Prosperous Universe Guide Archiel’s Good Governance An OOG Production December 04, 2023 Responsibilities of a Governor Generally the responsibilities of a newly elected governor falls into these categories, roughly in order of importance: Maintain the COGC Maintain the population via population... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oxmBNpMvU2GeWjvtYa0VzpwCc2Mde_qlm1JsugFKr7c/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyIPI36jHpC_KsTBPXQQQT_okmwWj0RMjxkcor5jxImUrrFN54N7iYf9eJ1XcrXrrbZ407LM8DnSqpPhgQjtl7YPfBwegwKZsrD27YrQsXsUr0auDcaO%3Dw1200-h630-p [23-Oct-24 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it explains why governors fill some upkeep but not others [23-Oct-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: tl;dr: level 2 SST filled with 2 items provides the same safety as 1 SST filled with 2 items. I use that logic to upgrade buildings until I can maintain population with only the cheapest materials [23-Oct-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frielo39** left.* [23-Oct-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Thanks for the info Cpt. I laways wondered about the strategy used to fill the upkeep. [23-Oct-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Hope you ar doing better now after the hurricane. [23-Oct-24 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braisitopro** joined.* [23-Oct-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7073141a23** left.* [23-Oct-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheOldGallus** left.* [23-Oct-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: thank you. Doing a bit better. Still have to move and that sucks, and most of my computer peripherals were damaged beyond repair, so that sucks. Coulda been a lot worse though [23-Oct-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kurokitsukami** left.* [23-Oct-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: How do i get more experts? Are they a fixed % of a workforce? [23-Oct-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Experts come naturally with time. The rate at which they come depends on the number of buildings you have running on the planet. The first experts come quick, but the last two especially can take a while. [23-Oct-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Do different types of experts come at different rates? i.e. Does it take longer to generate Fuel Refining experts than Resource Extraction. Or is it the first two just feel that much faster [23-Oct-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's the same rate, but the calculation is based on the number of production buildings you have [23-Oct-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so if you double the number of resource extraction buildings, you'll double the rate at quick you get new resource extraction experts [23-Oct-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userca87c50587** left.* [23-Oct-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: How can I get more Pioneers? I just built a new hab and a new Collector and I still need a lot more workers [23-Oct-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so when you build a new building, you'll get a certain percentage of the available workforce immediately. unfortunately there's not many available workers right now [23-Oct-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so there's nothing for you to do except to wait for the next population report, at which point we'll get more workers (hopefully) and they'll get redistributed to all bases on planet [23-Oct-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Okay cool [23-Oct-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Too bad we can't go full stellaris on this system [23-Oct-24 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoonTycoon** joined.* [23-Oct-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JSPrime** joined.* [24-Oct-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0bby** left.* [24-Oct-24 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crate** joined.* [24-Oct-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PopoAdamk0** joined.* [24-Oct-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AINSFKS** joined.* [24-Oct-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Braisitopro**: ola [24-Oct-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Braisitopro**: hi [24-Oct-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: Hi! [24-Oct-24 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NikoNi** left.* [24-Oct-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Howdy [24-Oct-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Elections have begun. Your friendly neighborhood Reaper would like to ask for your vote for Parliament. For those of you that don't know me, I've been a loyal Katoan since day one, and more recently have been working with some others, including our current governor to help our fuel refiners by stabilizing the market on the BEN CX. I am looking to continue my public service by running for office. [24-Oct-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daleus** left.* [24-Oct-24 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hello all, i am also running for a seat in the parliment, supporting CptColeslaw as governor [24-Oct-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Myself and the Governing team are happy to have some help and still interested in managing Katoa as we have been for the past 9 months. Myself, TAfirehawk, and wickskiracer are all part of the KAWA governing team and would ask for your continued support and votes. We would love for both SilentReaper and Eminence to join us in parliament seats as I've been working with both of them lately and really appreciate all they're doing to better the Benten region as a whole by helping new players <3 Happy elections friends [24-Oct-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I noticed that.. and voted @eminence32 [24-Oct-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: KAWA has been successfully governing Katoa (and its neighbors) for a long time, so I just want to say that CptColeslaw + TAfirehawk + wickskiracer should get our full support [24-Oct-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: I like the idea of reaper having a seat. has been a solid and trustworthy business partner to me. [24-Oct-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah we're totally fine with that, would love that. But with upkeep costs of over 166k CIS per DAY and a handful of bases devoted just to making POPI upkeep items, an unexpected transition in power is not so simple as winning a vote, so we'd love to maintain the gov seat and continue what we're doing while working with SilentReaper [24-Oct-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Anyone have 1 SSC they can sell me? [24-Oct-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep [24-Oct-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: thanks [24-Oct-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I am more than happy supporting KAWA here. While there are some outliers in terms of planets with no fees or taxes, most planets that aren't governed by KAWA typically have far higher prices (I'm looking at you OOG.....). [24-Oct-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And by prices, I mean taxes and fees and all. [24-Oct-24 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Question from lack of experience I guess. How does KAWA have the money to govern multiple planets and keep taxes low? [24-Oct-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: They produce everything in house. [24-Oct-24 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Quick interruption of the political talk - What's the most efficient use of area for a katoa fuel base? I have 5 COL, 4 EXT and 5 REF atm but starting to run out of room [24-Oct-24 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: For our benefit. And they have an internal market, where they exchange goods at a fraction of CX prices amongst each other, so low taxes to us is basically just normal taxes to them. It's pretty genius really. [24-Oct-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: @DudeInCorner. You don't want any COLs. The AMM tap on Katoa is terrible. [24-Oct-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But having EXTs is not a bad idea. Keeps logistics low, and thus the headache severity low as well haha. [24-Oct-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Yeah okay that's what I was thinking, AMM isn't that bad to ship [24-Oct-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [24-Oct-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Here, that should help. [24-Oct-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And AMM is also super cheap now on the CX. [24-Oct-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: In the doc, there's a specific section for Katoa fuel refiners. Hope it helps. [24-Oct-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Ah cool! Thanks [24-Oct-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Yeah super interesting read already [24-Oct-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Had no idea the cogm for AMM was so high lmfao [24-Oct-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well if you're producing it on Biogenesis, building costs and repair costs are super high. [24-Oct-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And on Katoa, COLs are cheap to build and maintain, but they produce so little AMM you barely make a return on the investment. [24-Oct-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravyn** left.* [24-Oct-24 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: <400CIS/d, by my math when I did it [25-Oct-24 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paul-Novak** left.* [25-Oct-24 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: If anyone needs AMM on Katoa, send me a DM, I've got so much it's coming out of my ears [25-Oct-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Anyone able to sell me like 200 Rats? [25-Oct-24 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: still need it @DoppyRex ? [25-Oct-24 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Sent a contract @DoppyRex . Reject if needed :) [25-Oct-24 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Accepted [25-Oct-24 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Thank you [25-Oct-24 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ^_^ [25-Oct-24 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: can i buy a bigger ship as non-pro? [25-Oct-24 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: no. [25-Oct-24 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: because i dont think you'll have accessto Shipyard [25-Oct-24 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: okay thanks [25-Oct-24 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: but if you do then you'll be able to upgrade your ship, if you contruct new ship you wont be able to operate more than 2 transport [25-Oct-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andavarus**: Can i just dismantle my existing ship? [25-Oct-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: if you have access to Shipyard, why not just upgrade it, it's much cheaper than making new one [25-Oct-24 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: and no you cant [25-Oct-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 2K/2K would be so useufl [25-Oct-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sigmar_gathus** left.* [25-Oct-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidric** left.* [25-Oct-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidricx** joined.* [25-Oct-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 2k/2k is very useful. [25-Oct-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***G3sus** joined.* [25-Oct-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crate** left.* [25-Oct-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daos** left.* [25-Oct-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akare** joined.* [25-Oct-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrChouSaru** joined.* [25-Oct-24 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Georci** left.* [25-Oct-24 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i personally like 3kT/1kM3 more because it's cheaper and most of my stuff is heavy [25-Oct-24 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just get one of every time of ship ;) [25-Oct-24 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, it's a lot cheaper as an upgrade, and there's def an argument to be made for just getting 2 3k1ks as your upgrades for your starter ships, especially if you're hauling a lot of heavy stuff. But for general wares, like 80% of all commodities, having a 2k2k is just so much better. [25-Oct-24 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: my main production is Construction and resources mining, maybe that's why im bias toward 3k1k, but you gotta say upgrading from standard to 3k1k is much cheaper compared to 2k2k, because you dont need to get a new CQM that cost 1 mill [25-Oct-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: yes, 100% [25-Oct-24 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: and for construction, you're definitely better off with 3k1ks. [25-Oct-24 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: AL, LST, it's all heavy haha [25-Oct-24 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And you can fit 100k PE into a 3k1k [25-Oct-24 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Last you a month making BDEs and INS and such. [26-Oct-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hhasan** left.* [26-Oct-24 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gods_Machine** joined.* [26-Oct-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Monses** left.* [26-Oct-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mirkanu** left.* [26-Oct-24 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user330a50159a** left.* [26-Oct-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Z3R0009** joined.* [26-Oct-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Z3R0009** left.* [26-Oct-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6fb0e02da7** left.* [26-Oct-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Can I buy 100H from someone? [26-Oct-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: i can! [26-Oct-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Send a cont I'll fufill [26-Oct-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Thank you! [26-Oct-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: np! [26-Oct-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9783c0431** left.* [26-Oct-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thughunter88** left.* [26-Oct-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraea487c9e7** left.* [26-Oct-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luke_it** joined.* [26-Oct-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6ec032d121** left.* [26-Oct-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaveyOGravy** left.* [26-Oct-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LunarPixel** joined.* [26-Oct-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcanyon** left.* [26-Oct-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: SReaper talked me into the heavy load ship and im honestly happy i did it. With that being said, if anyof you guys need PE in the near future, shoot me a msg [26-Oct-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kegger901** joined.* [26-Oct-24 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Hello pbsim, long time no see! [26-Oct-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shame** left.* [27-Oct-24 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Teknyx** left.* [27-Oct-24 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gesugao-san** left.* [27-Oct-24 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: ah yes [27-Oct-24 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Looking to buy about 200 FF if someone can send me a cont. [27-Oct-24 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Cont sent. [27-Oct-24 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: ty [27-Oct-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** deleted this message.* [27-Oct-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cheese420** joined.* [27-Oct-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheCheseeGodOnTheMain** left.* [27-Oct-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gumi** left.* [27-Oct-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5dc7076ec3** left.* [27-Oct-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panda10** left.* [27-Oct-24 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRoboticRabbit** joined.* [27-Oct-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hvizd** joined.* [27-Oct-24 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yoyo240** joined.* [27-Oct-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YoyoStelar** joined.* [27-Oct-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yoyo240** left.* [28-Oct-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anyone got spare DW, about 60-100? Ws gonna make a LM ad but forgot that's a pro thing [28-Oct-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IIconicEnigma** left.* [28-Oct-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: Just a sec. [28-Oct-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Thank ya kindly. I can reimburse the amount in a couple days if needed, just got a little weighed down on the production line [28-Oct-24 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Tiuwilo**: It's fine, I'll write it off as advertising costs xD [28-Oct-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Fair enough. KAWA is pretty great, you can use my voice for that [28-Oct-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf5f83a9f4d** left.* [28-Oct-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Looking to buy 200 H if someone can send me a cont. [28-Oct-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've got 200. can you send me one, or do you need me to send the contract? [28-Oct-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Easier if you send it [28-Oct-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok [28-Oct-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Just recently there was a motion that passed something about festivities where do i find that bonus for my workers or do i need to do something in game to get it or...? [28-Oct-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the festival programs will increase the population happiness. this only impacts how many people migrate to and from our planet [28-Oct-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's no production bonus or anything like that [28-Oct-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: ok does that affect how soon workers will be available to fill production building cause i built new HB1 and my required workforce is 435 but what i have is 401 still after 2 days [28-Oct-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: or just as you said for migration purposes [28-Oct-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not directly, no. when you build a new building that requires workers, you'll won't always get every job opening filled [28-Oct-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you generally need to wait until the next population report (which happens once a week). this is when all the unemployed workers are evenly distributed to every base [28-Oct-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: but it will eventually right may take some time but it will fill? [28-Oct-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: aaahh ok ok i see great Ty :D [28-Oct-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unfortunately katoa is running a little low on pioneers at the moment (this is what the festival is going to help with), so no guarantee that you'll get everyone you need. [28-Oct-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: Ok so as a player in the future can i do anything for that or the vote process? [28-Oct-24 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: for festivities that is [28-Oct-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, not really. festivals (and other planetary projects) are the responsibility of the planetary government. the government decides if a festival or other program is needed, and the government also funds it [28-Oct-24 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: ok awesome i have been playing for about 4-5 months and want to participate in all i can besides my base. Ty [28-Oct-24 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the production fees that you pay as a base owner are what fund things like the festivals :) [28-Oct-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: ok. Appreciate the Info and assistance. [28-Oct-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no problem, thanks for the good questions [28-Oct-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: :D [28-Oct-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I feel like I might actually be stuck in a cash black hole. [28-Oct-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Like I've got plenty of cash in theory [28-Oct-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But it feels like I'm not actually making anything quantifiable as a profit. [28-Oct-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: What do you produce? [28-Oct-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you actively expanding? [28-Oct-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: And yea, if you are expanding then thats where your money is actually going. [28-Oct-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I run a SF base on Kat, a H2O base on eth, and a RAT/DW base on KW-602c (but its still being paid of on a loan. And I run 1 permit lease PE base on Kat, that I supply inputs for and get the PE at 1/u. [28-Oct-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: All that should be generating a lot of money [28-Oct-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Theoretically yes. [28-Oct-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: The h2o base alone is quite some profit [28-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Do you buy your inputs off the market? [28-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: However PE margins have become dogshit recently. I struggle to get in the H GAL and C to supply everything on Kat. Half the water from Eth goes to KW. The other half I have no time to move because my ships are constantly busy. [28-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how much are your loan repayments? [28-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also remember that cash flow isn't constant [28-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I buy a few cons of market. [28-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sometimes you put something on the market and it won't sell for a week [28-Oct-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: H occasionally to supplement, all my C comes from market and GAL. [28-Oct-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The loan repayments is selling RATS and DW at a set price [28-Oct-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I can't remember when that ends, but its going on for now. [28-Oct-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Majority of my H comes from a deal on CB-282d [28-Oct-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But that presents its own problems with Shipping because I've only got .5K.5K's [28-Oct-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I see. Are your bases running without issues? (issues like lack of input) [28-Oct-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I gathered your katoa base isn't very happy [28-Oct-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Occasionally run out of H on the SF base, but that's pretty much it? [28-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Eth and KW run fine and are both supplied for a good amount of time. [28-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its just Kat is draining all my money to keep ticking over [28-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: SF is rather low margins. Especially when you are shipping using 500/500s [28-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Your shipping costs are a lot more [28-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I want to transition to full BMP's use some of the PE on OVE's. [28-Oct-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Decrease the H i use no longer need to ship GAL [28-Oct-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: You should switch to the GAL recipe imo [28-Oct-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: NAB* [28-Oct-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah would make logistics easier. [28-Oct-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: But it will also slash your SF output [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: True [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Another option is to upgrade your ships to 3k/1ks [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: looked at that [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: about 4 Million [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Its an expensive option [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Upgrades are not that expensive [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: And the problem I then run into is Idk where I get that cash from [28-Oct-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: you saw prices of full ships [28-Oct-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Also, if you have spare H2O production on Etherwind, you can sell your water on the LM [28-Oct-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Huh any upgrade I make to my ships says it needs a Large crew quarters which is about 2.3 Mil on its own [28-Oct-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Plus the hull plating and other things? [28-Oct-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Thats not a bad shout on Etherwind [28-Oct-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: A standard starter to WCB upgrade costs like 600k i think or maybe 800k? [28-Oct-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Disagree on the NAB switch, the H-GAL-AMM recipe has higher profit per day, just higher shipping weight per inventory [28-Oct-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Shipping is driving their costs [28-Oct-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: High-Load Cargo Bay yeah? [28-Oct-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: No [28-Oct-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Thats the 2k2k [28-Oct-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: wait i am wrong [28-Oct-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Yea [28-Oct-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: WCB is High-Load Cargo Bay [28-Oct-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: 3000t/1000m is High-Load [28-Oct-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Divert one of the FR to make a large load of SF every so often, so you don't have to make it yourself. Otherwise rn FF is the more profitable recipe [28-Oct-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Alright Starter ship to 3K/1K is 1 WCB 25 SSC 1 LFE 16 BHP. [28-Oct-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: That's actually much cheaper than to the 1K3K [28-Oct-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Huh [28-Oct-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah a 1K3K needs a Large Crew Quarters for Some reason [28-Oct-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Adds 2 Million to the price. [28-Oct-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: yea a 1k3k is much more expensive to upgrade to [28-Oct-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: a 3k1k is much cheaper to upgrade to and will also allow you to ship double the AMM and H, and 6 times more GAL [28-Oct-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Cheapest WCB is currently on Antares [28-Oct-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: By Rise I believe? [28-Oct-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Antares Ascendant? [28-Oct-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Was talking Ant CX [28-Oct-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I see. [28-Oct-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Do you have pro? [28-Oct-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah [28-Oct-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Cool then you should consider looking at the offers posted on the UFO discord [28-Oct-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: https://discord.gg/DB6tfNMT [28-Oct-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Anywhere I should be looking in particular [28-Oct-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Lowstrife does a 1M loan for 3%, p aight [28-Oct-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: There are people who do cheap ship upgrades for beginners. Accounts younger than 100 days [28-Oct-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @Doppy check out #galactic-deals in the UFO server [28-Oct-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah just done a quick look over [28-Oct-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah going for The new players cheaper starter kit [28-Oct-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I reckon I can find a million somewhere. [28-Oct-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: (accounts younger than 160d for that ship upgrade, I plan on using it myself that's why I know) [28-Oct-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KennyWong** left.* [28-Oct-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Is it worth building an STO? Can't decide if I need one or not for my FF/SF base [28-Oct-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Yes, probably worth it [28-Oct-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Early on it's not, but after about like 3 months yeah prob worth it [28-Oct-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I run 2 STO's on every base minimum [28-Oct-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Its nice to just be able to stack away cons [28-Oct-24 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ^ I have made 2 STO my standard per base unless the base makes very space efficient items [28-Oct-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user758efd6b9d** left.* [28-Oct-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KaliDualGoddess** left.* [28-Oct-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jayme** left.* [28-Oct-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MeinGhost** left.* [28-Oct-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Following TAfirehawk's tax change on Proxion, I figure I'd give an update on the tax situation here too, cause I've also been considering a reduction. The next few weeks will be an experiment in some cost saving measures. The results of that may determine the timeline of any tax adjustments. I'm working on upgrading the UNI right now and tha's really expensive. As soon as that's done though I'll save up a bit of an emergency reserve then drop taxes back to about what they were a few months ago [28-Oct-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: no open jobs [28-Oct-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: im dying [28-Oct-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: mr governor fix this por favor [28-Oct-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: check the previous messages, pioneer shortage should be resolved in 27 hours when the next POPR comes out :) [28-Oct-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: got it ty [28-Oct-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: no problem. Just had a crazy few weeks irl right after starting an experiment with POPI and things dropped a little too low... [28-Oct-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oni-River** joined.* [29-Oct-24 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrClone231** left.* [29-Oct-24 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FLY.NN** left.* [29-Oct-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ceres** left.* [29-Oct-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Admiral_Morgan** joined.* [29-Oct-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user652de7dca0** left.* [29-Oct-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sylwics** joined.* [29-Oct-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: hey fellas lets raise the price of ftl a bit by no longer undercutting others [29-Oct-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: if we all band together we can do technically illegal insider trading but we'll all make more money [29-Oct-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Aah... a cartel. Maybe, but ... meanwhile, consider making the ~1 day trip to ANT and selling your fuel there. Then buy what [29-Oct-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: 's cheap there and bring it back to BEN. [29-Oct-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***El_Loco** left.* [29-Oct-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haestrom** left.* [29-Oct-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KOtixRex** joined.* [29-Oct-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emerald_Tun**: I need 20 water emergency and i got posted,can someone do me a favor? [29-Oct-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: fulfilled ;) [29-Oct-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Emerald_Tun**: thanks [29-Oct-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shaco** left.* [29-Oct-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Good afternoon Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything interally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [29-Oct-24 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kgw279** joined.* [29-Oct-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oni-River** left.* [29-Oct-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: If you or a loved one suffer from "i have too much carbon". you may be entitled to compensation. contact @pbsim to work out a long-term contract that makes sense for you, today [29-Oct-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sounds.... scammy [29-Oct-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: to be fair, i did use the phrase "may be entitled to compensation" [29-Oct-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Sign me up immediately! Here's my SS# - 831-66-9706 [29-Oct-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Fucked up part is, that is probably SOMEONE's SS# haha [29-Oct-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: if so, they're about to get some sweet compensation! [29-Oct-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in the form of 500 tons of carbon delivered to their driveway? [29-Oct-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mindblade.metaverse** joined.* [29-Oct-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I have a bit of excess C being produced now if you want to pickup from Tacotopia :) [29-Oct-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Can I buy Gal from someone [29-Oct-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Was blind and only just noticed I have 8 [29-Oct-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taco10002** left.* [29-Oct-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Put a AD up on the LM. [29-Oct-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oops, i need GAL too [29-Oct-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I have GAL on BEN if you want it Eminence. [29-Oct-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my high-load ship isn't nearby, so let's see if anyone local has some [29-Oct-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sounds good. [29-Oct-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaZe_ErEcTilEDySfUNcTioN** left.* [29-Oct-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RitzelHax** left.* [29-Oct-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Love that Pioneer jump on the Pop report [29-Oct-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: hmm. it worked. thanks for prompting me to re-run the numbers @lowstrife . tax cuts coming as soon as I finish upgrading UNI [29-Oct-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: +38k in migration! very nice [29-Oct-24 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: MORE SLAV- EMPLOYEES!!! YAY [30-Oct-24 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rogue545** joined.* [30-Oct-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfb5f6fdbb5** left.* [30-Oct-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Why does my Extractor take 14.5 hours to do an order of GAL? I have like 95% eff and have all the workers I need. [30-Oct-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that sounds about right [30-Oct-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yea, my EXT takes 15:20 on 9GALs at 86.7% [30-Oct-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jarram11** left.* [30-Oct-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: 12:33 107% :D [30-Oct-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Does anyone have H for sale? [30-Oct-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, how much are you looking for? [30-Oct-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: just 1k [30-Oct-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, i can do [30-Oct-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: great. I'll buy it at your cx price of 115ppu [30-Oct-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll send a contract [30-Oct-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: awesome.. you are the best :) [30-Oct-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: why thank you :) [30-Oct-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have 593 Gal arriving tomorrow destined for the LM [30-Oct-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my poor store houses have no more room for heavy rocks :( however i shall endeavor to find some room before tomorrow [30-Oct-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I will buy all the GAL, AMM and H you guys bring need to get rid of :3 [30-Oct-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ~~bring~~ [30-Oct-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I have 1K GAL sitting on JS-601e that im not able to move/use anytime soon i could sell at a discounted rate if its picked up [30-Oct-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: I bid $1 Bob. [30-Oct-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gods_Machine**: yo [30-Oct-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gods_Machine**: how active of a community does this game have [30-Oct-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Define active? [30-Oct-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: About as active as the game is I'd say. Play for 15m at a time, maybe 3 times a day [30-Oct-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: There are people who actively watch and answer community areas (like this one) but if you are just looking for "activity" you'll have to sharpen your definition of what Activity is [30-Oct-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: The discord gets more talking traffic, if that's what you mean [30-Oct-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***asy1** joined.* [30-Oct-24 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gods_Machine**: I meant more so like how many log onto the game per day, like is the active player base in the 100s or like 1000s [30-Oct-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well, most members of the active player base don't do much chatting. [30-Oct-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But there are around 3000 active players on PrUn last I checkd more or less. [30-Oct-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And like it was mentioned before, a lot of the communication happens on discord. [30-Oct-24 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gods_Machine**: thank u both for answering my questions1 [30-Oct-24 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gods_Machine**: ! [30-Oct-24 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No problem. If you have anymore, feel free to ask. [31-Oct-24 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: @optimizedfunction got 3k AMM there for you mate [31-Oct-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: thanks! [31-Oct-24 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Wont need AMM for some time now haha [31-Oct-24 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: next time you do, give me a shout and I'll sort you out [31-Oct-24 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Sure! It will be a long while though, I am sitting on 10k AMM just in Benten system alone xD [31-Oct-24 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Posted LM ads for 2k GAL and 3k H in total [31-Oct-24 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Well I'm glad I could add to the pile! [31-Oct-24 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: anyone seling H? [31-Oct-24 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: need like 50 if anyone can sell it to me [31-Oct-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, send me a contract [31-Oct-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: oh i just posted to LM [31-Oct-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: can you fill it there? [31-Oct-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: thanks a ton [31-Oct-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, no problem [31-Oct-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Anyone got 10 KOM to spare, got an ad on the LM for 750 ppu [31-Oct-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***milesse** joined.* [31-Oct-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep, got you [31-Oct-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sychius** left.* [31-Oct-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bluntz**: Legend, thanks bro [31-Oct-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yosunio** left.* [31-Oct-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CtrlFreq** joined.* [31-Oct-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Good day Katoans. FIOC is recruiting once again. We are looking specifically for fellow Katoans to join us. We have been rapidly expanding in the region and are looking for new members to push us even further. If you are up for an adventure, come check out our welcome page to find out more about how we do things. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [31-Oct-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: my fellow katoans. i am once again asking for your support [31-Oct-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: lol ok bernie [31-Oct-24 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: what you need? [31-Oct-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: What's up PB? [31-Oct-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: i need a small rainbow colored hat with a propeller on top for a halloween party [31-Oct-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Okay. What's your address so I know where to amazon you the thing. [31-Oct-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crash_Jr** left.* [31-Oct-24 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: yes we need that, your birthday, and SSN [31-Oct-24 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, just to make sure the delivery driver doesn't accidentally deliver this essential commodity to the wrong person. We'll have them verify your birthday and SSN upon delivery, for your own safety. [01-Nov-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: anyone got H? [01-Nov-24 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fvfvfv23** left.* [01-Nov-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9c3c689588** left.* [01-Nov-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: How much you need? [01-Nov-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Committee_of_One** joined.* [01-Nov-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anyone need a solid H2O supply? I have my water base up and running, and not liking having to fight people on the CX for the top dollar [01-Nov-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You could build a DW base on KW-602c. If you use the PG recipe, you'll have enough H2O coming out of your Eth base to supply it. Could make supply runs like: BEN(buy PG, consumables) --> Eth(pickup H2O) --> KW-602c(dropoff H2O, pickup DW, take excess H2O and DW to BEN). [01-Nov-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: sorry lego i went to sleep. i just needed like 50 to keep the production line running. all good now, in theory lol [01-Nov-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I already have one loan out from you Reaper, I don't want to over extend myself with another base before I pay off the first one [01-Nov-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I appreciate the idea though :^) [01-Nov-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No worries. [01-Nov-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Besides, my next base will prob be proxion for food needs [01-Nov-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Gotcha. Yeah, that's a good move. Prox is a good agri planet and cheap to build on. [01-Nov-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Assuming it's still open, I saw it had only like 30-40 openings last I checked [01-Nov-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 52 plots available, good to know [01-Nov-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe in the next week I'll look around for another loan, but rn need to sell this water (been waiting for ship to land at cx, under 2 minutes now) [01-Nov-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if your cashflow situation allows it, consider picking a fair price for H2O and just listing it at that on the CX, instead of trying to always chase the best possible price [01-Nov-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I tend to list high, and whenever I need faster cash I pull the high bid off the market and sell low [01-Nov-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Better to have more options than to move to quickly and have few [01-Nov-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also "fair" is a subjective term, open to interpretation [01-Nov-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'd be interested in hearing what a "fair" price is if someone wanted to set up a long term deal for it [01-Nov-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, for sure [01-Nov-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me, "fair" means a price that is still profitable for you, and is consistent with what the market has supported in the past several weeks [01-Nov-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I figure like 35/u would be decent, at least while prices are the way they are currently. prob drop to 32-33 when prices finally drop to old days [01-Nov-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: But that also gives me the benefit of a reliable buyer, so I don't mind that drop in price [01-Nov-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for reference, consider that vox is selling for 40 at AI1. so i could say that 40 CIS here at CI1 would be very fair [01-Nov-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean, I'd take more money, sure [01-Nov-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but this is where my comment about cashflow comes in. if you list at 40 you might not sell that for many days. it might be more valuable to you to sell for slightly less per unit, but more quickly [01-Nov-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I was selling around 43-44, but kept fighting people so I dropped to 40, and people just kept dropping even more (that's why there is a gap from like 43.8 to 39.9) [01-Nov-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Like I try to list fair, but everyone built there water base around the time I did (or I did after they did, doesn't matter really), so there's competition... in the water [01-Nov-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think vox confused a lot of people [01-Nov-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How so? [01-Nov-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for a long time, they set the price for H2O across every market. but then they stopped selling H2O. a lot of people assumed they left the market and assumed that there was a supply shortage that needed filling [01-Nov-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but then a month later they list 1 million units for sale on AI1 [01-Nov-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I see. In fairness I will need water as my empire (company) grows, so it's not a total lose, but yeah I was on the hype train for filling that shortage [01-Nov-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: H2O bases are relatively cheap, so i think i was totally rational of you to build one [01-Nov-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Good afternoon Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything interally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [01-Nov-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cids** left.* [01-Nov-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YetAnotherSlave** left.* [01-Nov-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Saphira799**: hello my friend got me into this game and i decided to make a fuel refinery empire! any suggestions or tips for me going forward? [01-Nov-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [01-Nov-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Here's a guide for starting on Katoa. A lot of focus is placed on fuel refiners as most new players starting on Katoa go into fuel refining. [01-Nov-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It should help. [01-Nov-24 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gen.Patton** joined.* [01-Nov-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DocWatz** left.* [01-Nov-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1004ac057c** left.* [01-Nov-24 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: if you pay for a pro license you can use your ship to take on shipping contracts and haul your produced fuel to market in your gas tank at the same time [01-Nov-24 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: other than that, the guide lol [02-Nov-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boreallus** joined.* [02-Nov-24 03:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user36e5ef58a9** left.* [02-Nov-24 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Saphira799**: hey thanks already learned a lot from this guide! [02-Nov-24 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: Anyone need a transport from Benten to Katoa? I have about 400/400 left [02-Nov-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userabb7e2a4c5** left.* [02-Nov-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eisberi** left.* [02-Nov-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Good afternoon Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [02-Nov-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JSPrime** left.* [02-Nov-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boreallus** left.* [02-Nov-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Not_a_knight** left.* [02-Nov-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: ok guys i got a shipping contract here asking me to take this unknown package from the mexican border up to chicago and drop it off at a warehouse to a guy named "porkchop".... does this seem like a good idea? [02-Nov-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Why you askin questions? isnt there money to be made? [02-Nov-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: true story lol [02-Nov-24 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braisitopro** left.* [02-Nov-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I use a lot of EPO, PG and some DEC. And that leads to ... I also need an almost continous supply of OFF as well. [02-Nov-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Wrong chat, duh. [02-Nov-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrKenLo** joined.* [03-Nov-24 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordKonura** left.* [03-Nov-24 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Need to buy 100 GAL from someone if possible [03-Nov-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I got 70 if you still need it [03-Nov-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FraughYT** joined.* [03-Nov-24 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: @doppyrex sent cont [03-Nov-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Guys reach out if you need any SF inputs, i'll try and keep some on my base at all times. This is more for when you accidentally run out. I always will have lots of NAB though :) [03-Nov-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean, if you are just _giving away_ H, I wouldn't mind slipping a few bills your way [03-Nov-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Saves shipping :^) [03-Nov-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: @Akare Accepted cont [03-Nov-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wyatt.smith1613** joined.* [03-Nov-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***berat.deniz** joined.* [03-Nov-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***G3sus** left.* [03-Nov-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pulsefire** left.* [03-Nov-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercf29372906** left.* [03-Nov-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Good evening Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [03-Nov-24 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RNGzero** left.* [04-Nov-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @atlantisrising169 no no, its only for when you are unable to bring it yourself in time and that will cause your REFs to idle. [04-Nov-24 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: In that case just shoot me a small contract at CX rates [04-Nov-24 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @OptimizedFunction yeah sorry i read that wrong the first time, didnt correct myself so thats my bad πŸ˜… [04-Nov-24 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hey all, i have two small packages at Yannick that i'd like delivered to benten station. total 15t / 8m3. can i hire someone with an idle ship to make the delivery for me? [04-Nov-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: sure eminence, i have an STL ship in benten. [04-Nov-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: But I do hope you make it worthwhile :) [04-Nov-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, what's your price for this contract? [04-Nov-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Let me check how much it'll cost in fuel [04-Nov-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: it will cost me 600 SF to fly to yannick and then to benten [04-Nov-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: does 11k sound reasonable? [04-Nov-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sounds great, i'll send you contracts, thank you [04-Nov-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: What were you typing for so long though [04-Nov-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: πŸ‘€ [04-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, i was doing some calculator stuff, but i typed something here in chat my mistake, and i didn't clear the buffer while doing the calculator stuff [04-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ohh right [04-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: okay [04-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Wait, when do you need your shipment? [04-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you've ever seen a "someone is typing..." message for hours on end, it's because someone put 1 letter in the chat buffer and then just went AFK [04-Nov-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I see [04-Nov-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm in no rush. i'll put a 7 day deadline, but i'd like it sooner than that if possible [04-Nov-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Yea, my ship will land on umbra in 17 minutes. Will send it to yannick immediately after [04-Nov-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: will take around 20 hours to get your shipment to benten [04-Nov-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: from now [04-Nov-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sounds great, thanks again [04-Nov-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: about how many credts should I have before I try to start a new base? [04-Nov-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I recommend you full bid your first base before trying for a new base. [04-Nov-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But then again I got kickstarted so *Shrugs* [04-Nov-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's less about having a specific number of credits and more about cash flow and if you can afford to run both bases at the same time [04-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Logistics :( [04-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there is a "When should I build my next base" section in this guide that might answer your question @TheEasternSpy [04-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [04-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Good call lol [04-Nov-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: I'm just looking to not have to buy my own hydrogen [04-Nov-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how many bases do you have right now? just fuel refining on katoa? [04-Nov-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Just the 1 [04-Nov-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the best hydrogen planet near here is CB-282d [04-Nov-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but i don't recommend it as your second base [04-Nov-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's expensive to build there (a full base is something like 1.7 million if i recall correctly) and if you only have starter ships, it's really hard to ship all the hydrogen that you ship [04-Nov-24 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all the hydrogen that you make* [04-Nov-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Yea, you should buy your H for now [04-Nov-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: do you have pro? I can hook you up with NAB [04-Nov-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: for cheap ofc, it will reduce your SF output but since it will be much cheaper than H as input, it should be fine [04-Nov-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lusp2024** left.* [04-Nov-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JesusChrist** joined.* [04-Nov-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: hi [04-Nov-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Heey, how's it goin. [04-Nov-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: CHillin [04-Nov-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: watching things be made :D [04-Nov-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hah [04-Nov-24 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: What a coincidence. Me too. 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[05-Nov-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Willing to pay CX rates, like 600-650 last I checked, but if another prices strikes your mind I might still be interested. If not that is totally cool I can just make something else, but wanted to know just in case [05-Nov-24 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: CI1.TRN [05-Nov-24 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: TRN.CI1 [05-Nov-24 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It's one of them [05-Nov-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how many do you need? [05-Nov-24 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Like 18 [05-Nov-24 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also how many others were bought out? [05-Nov-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: nvm, silly me [05-Nov-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can make you some, it'll take about 6 hours [05-Nov-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: If you are good with that, send me the contract at your rate when they are done ig [05-Nov-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Posted LM ads for GAL and H [05-Nov-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0mad199** joined.* [05-Nov-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gre780** joined.* [05-Nov-24 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hugehead** joined.* [06-Nov-24 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BadM007** joined.* [06-Nov-24 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KluKluxKlan** joined.* [06-Nov-24 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KluKluxKlan** left.* [06-Nov-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: I have a ship with around 2000t/1000m3 of free space going from moria station to katoa in 5 hours. If anybody need a cargo moved give me a call. 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[08-Nov-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It makes me the upsetti that i cannot BMP my usual products [09-Nov-24 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @atlantisrising169 I can sell you some INS. Up to 500 units and 150 CIS per unit. I don't know what TRN is so I must not have it. [09-Nov-24 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: My mistake - I do make TRN. I can sell you up to 100 TRN for 400 CIS per unit. [09-Nov-24 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Humphrey** joined.* [09-Nov-24 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Metcore** left.* [09-Nov-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I'm making INS so should be able to get some to the market at somepoint in the next couple of days. [09-Nov-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I appreciate the willingness to help, ig I'm just more upset why someone would just buy out an entire stock like that. Like ik bulk ordering to save on shipping but that's kinda ridiculous [09-Nov-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'll have to see what my finances look like because i bought me some LST and SIO to make some MCG for an upcoming base in considering loaning into, so idk how much of what i could buy [09-Nov-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kgw279** left.* [09-Nov-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: As aa heads up, I will temporarily no longer be supply H to the LM. With my new base additions and being on vacation for 2 out of the last 5 weeks, my personal stocks are dangerously low and I'm in need of repairs :) [09-Nov-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I have a 3k load landing in 3k ill be able to toss up, also need repairs badly lol but my use is decently low [09-Nov-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: hr* not 3k [09-Nov-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thanks for the heads up @ConstellationExpress [10-Nov-24 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PantsPants** left.* [10-Nov-24 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sola_di_Ryuvia** left.* [10-Nov-24 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skyrimkatz** joined.* [10-Nov-24 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***a1fi3ee** joined.* [10-Nov-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Archangel1993** left.* [10-Nov-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4c6af12331** left.* [10-Nov-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: At what percentage is a good time to start repairing buildings? [10-Nov-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: the short answer is after 60 days [10-Nov-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: about ~97% [10-Nov-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The long answer? [10-Nov-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: Why is HE3 so expensive all of a sudden? [10-Nov-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M2gnum** joined.* [10-Nov-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: Thanks! [10-Nov-24 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nitrous**: Buy some OVE and AMM for a credit. Need to get rid of them to demolish base. First come first serve. [10-Nov-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorry to see you leaving katoa [10-Nov-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nitrous**: Thx [10-Nov-24 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nitrous** left.* [10-Nov-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We have lost another to the carbon cult. [10-Nov-24 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HercMighty** left.* [10-Nov-24 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the call of the carbon is strong [11-Nov-24 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @BlueHeeler I'll buy those TRN off you at the said price, could you send the contract [11-Nov-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adsolo** joined.* [11-Nov-24 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Froggy101** joined.* [11-Nov-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @DoppyRex The long answer to building degradation is https://pct.fnar.net/building-degradation/index.html ... especially the spreadsheet at the bottom of that page [11-Nov-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Twi5t3dxF4t3** joined.* [11-Nov-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***instantMirai8** joined.* [11-Nov-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: how do I get more contracts? The game isn't giving me any [11-Nov-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Every 16 hours your faction sponsor will issue you three more to choose from, and with a Pro or Basic license you can seek out more from other players on local markets [11-Nov-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: gotcha, it's been 16hrs since my last offers so, I guess I'll wait until it ticks over [11-Nov-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I assume you have also finished all the tutorial contracts? [11-Nov-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wyatt.smith1613** left.* [11-Nov-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FraughYT** left.* [11-Nov-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8c18a2334b** left.* [11-Nov-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ophois** joined.* [11-Nov-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VIIcdm** left.* [11-Nov-24 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VIIcdm** joined.* [11-Nov-24 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hoax** left.* [12-Nov-24 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: My fellow Katoans. I come to you asking for a steady supply of carbon. i am so very hungry [12-Nov-24 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Feed me, Seymor! [12-Nov-24 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Justicekees** left.* [12-Nov-24 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Compugasm** joined.* [12-Nov-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gingerangel27** joined.* [12-Nov-24 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: become one with the carbon farmers [12-Nov-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: step 1: 13 FRM on Proxion or Nemesis growing fast GRN [12-Nov-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: step 2: 30 INC on Tacotopia [12-Nov-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: step 3: profit [12-Nov-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: solid and versatile start, carbon farming. that what I did, then use the C here for PE, and other places for smelting [12-Nov-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yessss, more carbon producers pls [12-Nov-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***whariwharangi** joined.* [12-Nov-24 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So what's the apeal to carbon farming, besides profit? Is there just not enough in the universe currently for demands? [12-Nov-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ob2001** left.* [12-Nov-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: carbon serves as an input/feedsotck for very many different processes in case you want to get into other industries like chemistry or metallurgy [12-Nov-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: also a way to literally burn excess inventory from farming bases if you have those [12-Nov-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm about to, planning it out now in fact [12-Nov-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: keep in mind that incenerating usually increases weight/volume in case you don't source and sink at the same place [12-Nov-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How does it increase? shouldn't mass be conserved? [12-Nov-24 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Not when using business school math... which is the case here. [12-Nov-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: If you're a STEM nerd (like me), just think of it as not all sources and sinks of mass being accounted for. Just like the planets apparently serve as infinite sources of resources, they also serve as infinite sinks for throwing away the dross when manufacturing/burning a new product. It's not accounted for. It just appears or goes away. [12-Nov-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Like I get it, but if we are just incenerating thenI have to wonder what is even being added, like from a rp perspective [12-Nov-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm a relatively small carbon consumer, but even at my small levels i buy about 250k CIS worth every week [12-Nov-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: i like to pretend my crops are the fuel and im actually incinerating employees [12-Nov-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ~300? [12-Nov-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Maybe the base plumbing outputs into the incinerator [12-Nov-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd3c7c940f9** left.* [12-Nov-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thoriumlaunderer** left.* [12-Nov-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: zomg, katoa is *so close* to benten station right now [12-Nov-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEasternSpy**: Turn and burn bb, Rocinante style [12-Nov-24 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: was getting 6h flight time yesterday [13-Nov-24 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7543a11263** left.* [13-Nov-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Gotta make the quick cheap trips now [13-Nov-24 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aar192001** left.* [13-Nov-24 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm currently doing a 4 hours trip home from benten, this feels luxurious [13-Nov-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Eminence, how much do you usually spend in SF for a round trip? 300? 400? [13-Nov-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hakthyl** left.* [13-Nov-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: for me, I've found that for FTL flights 250-350 SF is usually the sweet spot. for in system flights it varies a lot more. 200-600 usually depending on the shipping window I'm trying to hit [13-Nov-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @atlantisrising169 i try to use about 200 SF for each trip, so about 400 for a round trip. sometimes less, if i'm not going to be online for a while (in which case i time my arrival to be when i'll be online) [13-Nov-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of my flight takes about 12 hours. i send them off when i wake up in the morning timing to arrive before i go to bed. and then before bed i send them off somewhere else, to arrive when i wake up the next day [13-Nov-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Good to know I've been taking similar flights, at least in spirit [13-Nov-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7b720378d0** left.* [13-Nov-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I usually aim for 200 SF as well. Though I will spend more if I can get fuel at the destination. [13-Nov-24 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: wow you guys are so fuel efficient [13-Nov-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I burn A LOT of fuel per trip to make sure it will land when I will be awake [13-Nov-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: thought 700-800 is my max [13-Nov-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: though* [13-Nov-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: My main problem is my ship takes hours that never line up with my sleep schedule [13-Nov-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: so this is kinda micro but i was thinking about how planet alignment with stations can be calculated to improve efficiencies but it's only ever gonna be an incidental thing, time preference and wasted time or trying to get your production to sync up with planetary movements seems a little excessive lol. but you could line up your production to finish with a cycle in such a way that allows you to get a sort of optimal timing for delivery speed or whatever [13-Nov-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I haven't had the largest window to observe the planetary movements and this is all from passive data collection and a faulty memory.. but in BEN it seems like the orbits may be close to 6mo for Katoa, 4mo for Yannick?, 4-5mo for BEN, and 8mo for Umbra. Those are just guess based off my earliest recollections of their positions 2 months ago. [13-Nov-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: WIth that said, I feel like some of the cycles you'd have to line up with could last up to six months. Maybe this means you don't ship during the 2 most difficult months of the cycle and load it with extra during the other 4, prioritizing extra trips during the easiest two months to compensate. [13-Nov-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: It would take some storage and planning, but I'm sure you could find a way to leverage it for less overhead. [13-Nov-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Now if that reduction in overhead is less than the reduction in revenue.. [13-Nov-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: The orbits are much shorter than that, I am sure of it [13-Nov-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Then it's more likely to be profitable I'd say. Again, I've had a very, very limited window of observation and no intention of figuring it out so far lol [13-Nov-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***A_Person123** left.* [13-Nov-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Anyone interested in a base on Etherwind producing DW? [13-Nov-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If so, check my post on Global. [13-Nov-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Hey friends. The POPI experiment was a great success, so now I'm just looking to upgrade the UNI a few levels. If you're interested in contributing feel free to just add materials and send me a bill, or contact me about selling stuff to me at BEN if that's easier. UNI is expensive to upgrade, but once it's done we'll be set for a long time and we'll drop taxes down to just cover the program costs :) [13-Nov-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: But also, with the success of this cost reduction plan and some final upgrades to UNI that I've been wanting to do for a while, I'm feeling both satisfied and sad to announce that this will be my last term as governor of Katoa. Real life has been rough lately and I don't have the time to play as much as I used to, or the money for PRO license. TAfirehawk, governor of Proxion, Nemesis, and many other Benten area planets, is running to take my place. We have been working together for most of the year as leaders on KAWA's governing team, because for some reason we find the extra workload and accounting of government upkeep fun xD They are very competent and have already put in a lot of work to improve the logistics and upkeep of the team. Katoa is a big planet and I would ask for your votes for TAfirehawk in 7 days so that he can finish the plans that I started and then continue to improve and grown Katoa in the future <3 You guys are awesome and it's been a pleasure :) [13-Nov-24 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ₯‚πŸ₯‚πŸ₯‚ cheers to CptColeslaw for all your work on katoa (and the benten area in general), thank you so much! [13-Nov-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gre780** left.* [13-Nov-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0mad199** left.* [13-Nov-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Thank you Cpt for your work as governor. [13-Nov-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Thanks for doing your think Cpt! my vots gonn be for firehawk :) [13-Nov-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Re: UNI. I will have the last ATA made in less than 10hrs if no one else has one - that is all that's left for the upgrade. [13-Nov-24 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: 1 ATA coming up πŸ˜‰ [14-Nov-24 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Thank you Cpt 😊 [14-Nov-24 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5e5444526f** left.* [14-Nov-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: Why are HE3 and H so expensive all of a sudden??? [14-Nov-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: The market is starved [14-Nov-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we need some more hydrogen producers [14-Nov-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: anyone interested? [14-Nov-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: CB-282d is a fantastic source and I hear their gov is super cool 😎 [14-Nov-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 😊 [14-Nov-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I already make too many trips out there I could do without needing to supply a base as well unfortunately :( [14-Nov-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: But I've got a corp mate who's looking to do it [14-Nov-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can help with shipping (both supplies to CB-282d as well as moving hydrogen back to benten) [14-Nov-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Talk to @seanmdrake03 [14-Nov-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: He's my corp member doing the CB base [14-Nov-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ah, i saw them land on the planet a few days ago [14-Nov-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yeah they were saving up for a base don't know how much they've got done so far [14-Nov-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: What level are we trying to get the UNI to? [14-Nov-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I think 5 or 6 is enough to keep ENG/SCI stable with only programs. I'll check my sheet again later though, I did that math weeks ago [14-Nov-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ClearViewInc** left.* [14-Nov-24 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1abe7730e0** left.* [15-Nov-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***brucecaron** left.* [15-Nov-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hugehead** left.* [15-Nov-24 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rusty4tw** left.* [15-Nov-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***3148456800** left.* [15-Nov-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user192420a1d6** left.* [15-Nov-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***d093w1z** joined.* [15-Nov-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JammerJack** joined.* [15-Nov-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rpfeiff448** joined.* [15-Nov-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SkyTV** left.* [15-Nov-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HinkeCode** joined.* [15-Nov-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: UNI successfully upgraded to lvl 3. I've filled what I can for lvl 4 and have MCG, TRU, and ABH for the next few levels. I've got bids at BEN for ADE, ASE, and ATA if anyone has some they're willing to liquidate. [15-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Posted GAL and H contracts on the LM! [15-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: In total its about 3k H and 2k GAL [15-Nov-24 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: anyone have like 100 FF to sell me real fast? [15-Nov-24 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: maybe 200? [15-Nov-24 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, post a contract [16-Nov-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tlewand** left.* [16-Nov-24 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i haven't seen a contrat or ad yet and i'm off to bed. i'll check in the morning [16-Nov-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phantom_Glitch** left.* [16-Nov-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: sorry, i got some and forgot to update chat [16-Nov-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: thank you though [16-Nov-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sethencini** joined.* [16-Nov-24 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raqune** left.* [16-Nov-24 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DevilMidas** left.* [16-Nov-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***donisbonis** left.* [16-Nov-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AWoodenChair** joined.* [16-Nov-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roi_Kr4p0** joined.* [16-Nov-24 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OuterRim_** joined.* [16-Nov-24 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OuterRim_**: Is there like a global market you can buy and sell on? [16-Nov-24 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OuterRim_**: I found the trades thing, but didn't see an option to buy something only post like an order... 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No one wants to take my deliveries. And I won’t be able to transport the goods myself in time. Selling it in such quantities on Katoa is unrealistic. [18-Nov-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: generally 10 CIS per unit of storage (either t or m3 whichever is greater) [18-Nov-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but part of the problem is that big haulers aren't going to want to pick up contracts that don't fill up their entire ship [18-Nov-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so sometimes bigger contracts are more likely to be picked up (a single contract that fills a 2k/2k ship for example). also longer deadlines sometimes also help [18-Nov-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: katoans used to be happy with beans and rice. now they want parks and school.... [18-Nov-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: opposite of that, you could make smaller contracts. when i first started i was having to make trips to ben and back using only part of my cargo space to get more inputs and money. i would have hauled an extra 200/200 for next to nothing [18-Nov-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: your current ads are basically asking a new person to dedicate their entire cargo hold to your trip [18-Nov-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: you either want a full time hauler or you want to hitch a ride on the cheap.... 500/500 load is neither of those [18-Nov-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's also a good point [18-Nov-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: why would a big hauler not take along a 500/500 contract? Are they not going anyway? I sometimes take Castillo-Ito contracts to fill up the space on my beginner ships. Once I fulfill my dream of a 1k/1k ship, I might take on a 600contract if I have the room and wanted to leave shortly. [18-Nov-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: what are you trying to ship? It seems like SF @dev3l [18-Nov-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @eminence32 why are you buying GAL at 150 ? [18-Nov-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: No ownder my LM ads have taken so long to be fulfilled! [18-Nov-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: wonder* [18-Nov-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Fleablock**: o7 Katoa [18-Nov-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @OptimizedFunction because i'm running low on GAL and i need some :) [18-Nov-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: is there something unusual about my price? [18-Nov-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: nah its just higher than my price :) [18-Nov-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ah so GAL is EXPENSIVE on the CX [18-Nov-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: i thought it was 170 the last time i checked? [18-Nov-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, there's a bit of a shortage at the momoent [18-Nov-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: any katoans want to get some extra extractors fired up? [18-Nov-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: mhm [18-Nov-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7bf49f2828** left.* [18-Nov-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: guess they didn't like the idea [18-Nov-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol [18-Nov-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: KW-976c is set to for GAL extraction. definitely a big supply shortage right now [18-Nov-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***a1fi3ee** left.* [18-Nov-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have 2k GAL sitting at RC-040d if anyone wants to go pick it up! :P [18-Nov-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jayjaxx** joined.* [18-Nov-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I have GAL which i can't ship off KW-976c , if anyone wants that, i'll sell [18-Nov-24 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the Curse Of The Heavy Rocks [18-Nov-24 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: haha [18-Nov-24 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I should be able to start shipping the GAL soon. Just awaiting ship deliveries. Though all of it will be usurped by my SF base [18-Nov-24 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Its not even running at capacity atm [19-Nov-24 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eskimoblubber** joined.* [19-Nov-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: @OptimizedFunction sorry for late response. Yep, I'm trying to sell STL :) [19-Nov-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user594f7e249c** left.* [19-Nov-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb827c11fc7** left.* [19-Nov-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vsubs** joined.* [19-Nov-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***criticizmic** joined.* [19-Nov-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiamondLP2003** joined.* [19-Nov-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shegar** joined.* [19-Nov-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Can I buy some about 200 H from someone? [19-Nov-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Just send me a contract [19-Nov-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: contract sent [19-Nov-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xvsubs** joined.* [19-Nov-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rasyidpriyatama** joined.* [19-Nov-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wtfmerc** joined.* [19-Nov-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daythor_Vonn** joined.* [19-Nov-24 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: Fellas, if you have a use for PE on Katoa let me know. I make about 80k of it every 3 days. I can set up a steady price to simplify your input costs and save you time from having to make trips. dm me if interested [19-Nov-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Glad I don't need any ENG on Kat lol [19-Nov-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: beat me to the pithy comment [19-Nov-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Although to be fair, getting higher tier pops on these massive planets with hundreds of thousands of pops costs a fortune. [19-Nov-24 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah, this is the reason I'm trying to upgrade UNI. it'll take a while to recover, but upkeep for maintain high tier pops on Katoa is very expensive. UNI upgrades plus fest 3 programs will solve that [20-Nov-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, I think if possible in the meantime, just trying to maintain current population levels for ENG and SCI might be the best we can do. Getting the UNI up is costing a ton I am sure. 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[21-Nov-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can get orbital parameters from FIO, but as far as i know, no one has successfully used those parameters to try to model the in-game planetary motion [21-Nov-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spacebar** joined.* [21-Nov-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1bad199eec** left.* [21-Nov-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb92d8367c4** left.* [21-Nov-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ophois** left.* [21-Nov-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: I looked into it a few months back, there arent enough orbital parameters available to make it more precise than you could probably do just by estimating [21-Nov-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i know nothing about how to model planetary orbits (so i might not understand your answer), but do you recall what was missing? [21-Nov-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm pretty much to the point I can start selling H again but slowly. I plan to startup a second H factory over in Moria so the strain isn't so bad in Ben [21-Nov-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yay hydrogen [21-Nov-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I would just need the ratio of Katoa's orbital radius to Benten station's. Eyeballing it on the map it looks like maybe 1.6 to 3.4? I don't know whether those numbered lines represent consistent distances [21-Nov-24 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: instead of trying to get the orbital radius, you could also get the orbital period, right? [21-Nov-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also the radius is available in the FIO data [21-Nov-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: With the radius and the period you can figure out the mass of the star. [21-Nov-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ALthough you wouldn't really need that if the radius and period data is available for every planet. [21-Nov-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But if period isn't available, you could find the mass of the star using the period and radius of a single planet and then figure out other orbital periods based on radii [21-Nov-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (NOPE I LIED, orbital radius is not in FIO data) [21-Nov-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: nvm then haha [21-Nov-24 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://up.em32.site/3ory.txt [21-Nov-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ah, maybe the semi-major axis and the eccentricity can give us what we need? [21-Nov-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (i am an orbital noob here) [21-Nov-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can figure out the orbit based on semi major axis and eccentricity [21-Nov-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Although it looks like all planets orbit in circular orbits, so semi major axis would just be orbital radius. [21-Nov-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Periapsis = 0 doesn't make sense tho [21-Nov-24 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Unless it's saying the planet takes a dunk in the sun at some point around its orbit haha [21-Nov-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But yeah, based on that data, if someone is patient enough to find the orbital period, you can definitely use that to figure out the orbital characteristics of the other planet and the sun's properties. [21-Nov-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Issue is ships in PrUn don't really fly in ways that make sense. [21-Nov-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If they were all Hohmann transfers, it would be easy af to figure out travel times. [21-Nov-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But they're not. And you'll often see ships flying essentially vertically, meaning theoretically, they decelerated by the planet's orbital velocity and then made a burn toward or away from the sun. The dv needed for that would be insane. I don't know how PrUn calculates fuel though, like if there's a functional correlation between the amount of SF burn and dv [21-Nov-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7e34c6f805** left.* [21-Nov-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: The orbital radius determines the orbital period because of Kepler's third law by the way, so I need one or the other for the same reason [21-Nov-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Where do ships FTL jump from? Orbit around the system's star? [21-Nov-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: That could approximate the orbital radius if you calculate a jump from different starting points [21-Nov-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GarAcT** left.* [21-Nov-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: you still need the mass of the star. [21-Nov-24 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: There are three variables in Kepler's third law. The period, the radius, and the mass of the central body. [21-Nov-24 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You need two of those to calculate the third. Perhaps if you had data on two planets, you could solve for the system of equations, cancel out one of the variables. [22-Nov-24 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I've done the wait, it's ~60d for a sync up of BEN and Katoa, or every 30d from being closest it can be to the farthest. Worth noting this isnt orbital period, as they are both still moving and thus the orbital period of katoa is <60d, but i use this number to know when to buy and stock for the long haul 20-30 days i dont want to be travelling for [22-Nov-24 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: The hard part of finding "true" orbital period is you dont have a fixed point (that isnt the center) to base it around. Like even if we could have a "galactic north" added to the MS map we could start tracking all the orbital periods from once they pass that point till they hit it again [22-Nov-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheWhiteLion** left.* [22-Nov-24 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amegasuki** left.* [22-Nov-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: Shipping Katoa > BEN 473 m^3 494 t 5 CIS / t/m^3. leaving in 4 hours. [22-Nov-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: 9h flight [22-Nov-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: Filled [22-Nov-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: DM me if you have space going Katoa --> BEN, I almost always have something to ship! [22-Nov-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vichnikov** left.* [22-Nov-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Hours late to the conversation as usual... But yes, the main roadblock I ran into is the absence of solar mass. We could manually count Katoa's period, and then solve for mass of Benten (the star), but then that would really just an estimation, and not transferrable to other systems which was my original goal (I was trying to make an orbital calculator) [22-Nov-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: And it's a lot of work for something that would only give a little more precision than @atlantisrising169 's ~60d estimate [22-Nov-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Anyways this is all based on my rusty ass understanding of kepler's laws, I have a degree in space engineering but I'll be damned if I retained any information past graduation.... [22-Nov-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm, does this help? https://up.em32.site/4Av1 [22-Nov-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this is the output from https://rest.fnar.net/systemstars/star/UV-351 [22-Nov-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: plugging in all the relevant data into a kepler's 3rd law calculator indicates that benten would have an orbital period of 2.2165 years. and for yannick it's 5.21 years. assuming these are right, there's also a time factor we have to figure out [22-Nov-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oh that's really cool PrUn actually has values for solar mass and everything. [22-Nov-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fettuccinni** joined.* [22-Nov-24 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fettuccinni** left.* [22-Nov-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Oh interesting, don't know how I didn't find this last time around [22-Nov-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: https://rest.fnar.net/global/simulationdata has information about some factors at play, but not sure how to interpret them. [22-Nov-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: As far as calculating benten station period, we will either need to find orbital information about the station, or figure out the ratio of it's period compared to one we already know [22-Nov-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: If I interpret planetary motion factor to mean the orbits are simulated 20x faster, then that would mean Katoa's orbit is about 40.45 days. Does that make sense? [22-Nov-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm, that sounds totally plausible [22-Nov-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: If so, then Yannick and Katoa closest approaches are 70.42 days apart, and I think we can then assume that Benten Station and Katoa's closest approaches would be a little longer than 70.42 days apart [22-Nov-24 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Yeah, found a dev posting in discord confirming that the orbital time scaling is 20x, so that should be correct [22-Nov-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: And then that reminds me... All this mathing and thinking, and we probably could have just asked a dev in Discord for the answer [22-Nov-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Or at least for Benten's orbital info [22-Nov-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm poking about in the websocket messages exchanged between the apex console and the backend server, and i'm not seeing any station info [22-Nov-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh wait found something [22-Nov-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @DudeInCorner https://up.em32.site/C1X5 [22-Nov-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Aha! [22-Nov-24 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: I actually just found a discord message estimating benten's semimajor axis to be 3.5 AU, but I'll do the math with this number instead and get a more precise answer [22-Nov-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Alright, so Benten and Katoa are at their closest every 59.11 days [22-Nov-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So like... ~60d [22-Nov-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: Hahaha [22-Nov-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: It was a fun brain teaser at least [22-Nov-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: (coping) [22-Nov-24 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DudeInCorner**: See you all on January 13 for National Benten Day [22-Nov-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ i guess my conflict is where to usefully implement the info. I'm planning on not flying to BENT (from katoa, i have too much to do to stop completely) for the farthest 20d, but the info doesn't really help in FTL travel due to already kinda cheesing travel/time [22-Nov-24 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So aside from a hibernation period within a given system, it doesn't really hold much importance what the orbital periods are, if you always FTL jump only a bit or of the way to wherever you are going [22-Nov-24 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, but it's fun to try to work out the orbital simulation [22-Nov-24 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: even if it's not ultimately useful [23-Nov-24 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ in a game where the main focus is optimization, i don't see much stock in that which doesn't optimize my functions [23-Nov-24 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mind you, aa for things that are done arduously for little to no function, i still largely run without using PrunPlanner, except specifically for totalling construction costs for buildings on bases im planning. Other than that though, even the planning of the base itself, I do by hand [23-Nov-24 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lady-Rose** left.* [23-Nov-24 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: Shipping BEN > Katoa. 205t, 405 m^3. 10 CIS per t/m^3. Leaving in 2h. ~9h flight. [23-Nov-24 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @Jayjaxx I just posted 2 LM's at BEN, 175.7t/70m^3@700CIS & 19.6t/280m^3@2800CIS [23-Nov-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I just used the m^3 for both prices, as they are the bigger number in total [23-Nov-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pulvis** left.* [23-Nov-24 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***misiaell** joined.* [23-Nov-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alpha_wolf19** joined.* [23-Nov-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedCom** joined.* [23-Nov-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Can I buy 50 GAL [23-Nov-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Please just end me a cont [23-Nov-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: contd [23-Nov-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: lol... [23-Nov-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Thank you! [23-Nov-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You're welcome. [23-Nov-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xX_Edgelord_Xx** left.* [23-Nov-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Can I request some ENG? Planning an APF in the near future. Happy to help with it if I can! [23-Nov-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: absolutely. I'm trying to recover ENG and SCI after the switch to new upkeep strategy. pops should trend up now but UNI upgrades will be crucial long term. I'm about to contribute more later tonight but if anyone is using high tier pops here contributing to the UNI upgrades is the best thing you could do. send me a bill for it, it's an expensive upgrade but it saves a lot of upkeep cost in the long run [23-Nov-24 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have just release all of my SCI (44) and most of my ENG (114) so that should help your numbers. [23-Nov-24 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***z3notic** joined.* [23-Nov-24 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I'll take a look at the uni! [23-Nov-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I'm not equiped off hand to assist, but I was making some moves to have BMF within the next few days, so I'll just bring a few more. [23-Nov-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I'm happy to bring in some IDC for the upkeep aswell [23-Nov-24 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it actually won't need upkeep, once it's built the passive education bonus combined with festivities 3 programs will keep pop filled [23-Nov-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hitoriac** joined.* [24-Nov-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sethencini** left.* [24-Nov-24 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marionas** left.* [24-Nov-24 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***akatham** left.* [24-Nov-24 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user04aefff476** left.* [24-Nov-24 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pav** left.* [24-Nov-24 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vtyanisepic** joined.* [24-Nov-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pitohui** left.* [24-Nov-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AWoodenChair** left.* [24-Nov-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nocalose** joined.* [24-Nov-24 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YankiePueri** joined.* [24-Nov-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cortisol** joined.* [24-Nov-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr.Doofenshmirtz** joined.* [25-Nov-24 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: LM ad up for 5 PDA @ 3,000/u [25-Nov-24 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OuterRim_** left.* [25-Nov-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: why is the price of SIO skyrocketing [25-Nov-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Uncles**: what happened [25-Nov-24 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Wdym? SIO prices have been falling [25-Nov-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roi_Kr4p0** left.* [25-Nov-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6a93b694c6** left.* [25-Nov-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd375559106** left.* [25-Nov-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: Shipping Katoa > BEN. 395.22t, 381.75m^3. 15 CIS/t/m^3. Leaving in ~5h or when full. ~9h flight. [25-Nov-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd192cf6135** left.* [25-Nov-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Have 40k DW on BEN. Anyone with a <60d account, am selling 1000 at 80/u per person. Send me a buy if you need the DW. [25-Nov-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Obviously not for resale. Can't stop you, but ideally just trying to help with consumables cost. [25-Nov-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: repayment within 30d is fine. Give you some leeway to pay it. [25-Nov-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: t [25-Nov-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lynx.palana** joined.* [26-Nov-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anyone willing to help me convert some currency? I accidently picked up a contract that paid in NCC, not CIS. Im trying to avoid a trip out to Moria just to redeem that cash, but if I have to I will. 390k is the amount, I figure whoever helps can have 1-2k of the amount as payment for the help [26-Nov-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You want to offload your NCC in exchange for CIS? [26-Nov-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yes please. Ill be sure to double check payment types going forward, but i have a loan i got to pay in a couple days and i dont want to have to tell the guy itll be an extra day because i need to go to Moria :^) [26-Nov-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: My ships are already tied up in deliveries of goods [26-Nov-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hah. I think I'm the guy, and next payment is due in 5d. [26-Nov-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can always exchange the stuff on the FX. [26-Nov-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Although if you need the money now, the rates you'll get are pretty terrible. [26-Nov-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah that was the joke, but i also got to get my ship from etherwinds to BEN to Katoa, cus i forgot to get PG for my BMPs [26-Nov-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I dont have PRO, I cant use the FX [26-Nov-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oooh, totally flew over my head haha. [26-Nov-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oooh, I see. [26-Nov-24 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I can exchange half. Really I have no use for NCC. But I have permanent orders on the FX to try and get rid of my NCC and sort of forget about it. [26-Nov-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: 250k is fine. [26-Nov-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Whatever works for you. I appreciate the help paying ya back πŸ˜… [26-Nov-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: haha. No worries. Happy to help either way. [26-Nov-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Like I said, youre welcome to take a few k off the top for helping, it saves me a trip out to deep space so its not a bother [26-Nov-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Nah, it's fine. [26-Nov-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: NCC is a garbage currency. Nobody likes it, nobody wants it. Everybody wants CIS haha. FX rates are terrible. Even the bids are net negative, meaning the spread is all within the red if you're trying to buy CIS with NCC. But a little trick you can do is buy a ton of IDC on MOR and sell it on BEN. You'll still lose money, but very little compared to using the FX. And IDC weighs so little, if you had PRO, you could put up an ad on the LM to get the stuff hauled to BEN for a couple thousand NCC. [26-Nov-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Is Moria just under developed? I know Anteres space is pretty developed due to the ADI, but i dont hear much on the other spaces [26-Nov-24 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd4b764a096** left.* [26-Nov-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorporateJester** left.* [26-Nov-24 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: MOR is possibly the strongest and most active CX at the moment, lots of people want NCC... including myself πŸ˜† unfortunately I'm on basic as well so we'd need a middle man to exchange [26-Nov-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Well Cpt, if you got anything worth 140kNCC, I'm willing to trade that way. Current needs for Katoa are H, HE3, PG, and then 120x supplies for either REP or PT [26-Nov-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I can exchange ncc if you need it [26-Nov-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: All that is way more than 140k, but we can figure out an amount and send that through [26-Nov-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I can also exchange the rest of your ncc if you need it. [26-Nov-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pggamer** joined.* [26-Nov-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pggamer**: Is there any way to get hydrogen aside from using a collector or buying it [26-Nov-24 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I dont think its a byproduct of any process [26-Nov-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MONSTER4990** joined.* [26-Nov-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AstroHelix** joined.* [26-Nov-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** deleted this message.* [26-Nov-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AstroHelix**: new guy here do i have to save my game somewhere and then close the app or... [26-Nov-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AstroHelix**: And does my production line run while the app is closed [26-Nov-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: you don't have to save ... and it keeps running [26-Nov-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AstroHelix**: THANKS! [26-Nov-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AstroHelix**: Is there a way to friend users? [26-Nov-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: i recommend aggressive and suspicious, being unreasonable with your offers, and insulting others when possible. this demonstrates high levels of business acumen and will earn you the respect of your peers and future business partners. [26-Nov-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: lol [26-Nov-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***__ayin** left.* [26-Nov-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slothian** joined.* [26-Nov-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dev_mark** left.* [26-Nov-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AstroHelix** left.* [27-Nov-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eskimoblubber** left.* [27-Nov-24 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbe29563151** left.* [27-Nov-24 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***rpfeiff448** left.* [27-Nov-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draygarth** joined.* [27-Nov-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user326e3d1a0e** left.* [27-Nov-24 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd9d0170616** left.* [27-Nov-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shegar** left.* [27-Nov-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Can someone sell me some SF? 10k if ya got it [27-Nov-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: did you get your SF? [27-Nov-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: nope [27-Nov-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: there is some on LM though [27-Nov-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've can sell you 10k here on katoa [27-Nov-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Yes please [27-Nov-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: contract sent for 10k units at my standard CX prices, if that's ok for you [27-Nov-24 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Sounds great!! Thank you! [27-Nov-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wtfmerc** left.* [28-Nov-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***craftingcity** joined.* [28-Nov-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Thinking of demolishing my BMP. There seems to be very little a BMP can profitable produce if buying the inputs from BEN and selling the outputs back. Would it stand to reason that whales with maxed out manufacturing expertise is dumping their surplus on the exchange? Or am I missing some magic profit line that is actually profitable? [28-Nov-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I've only checked a third of the BMP lines, but 80% are money losers after accounting for labor and depreciation costs. [28-Nov-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pggamer**: Whould be realy nice if you could produce hydrogen through electrolysis of water. or is that a thing and im just stupid? [28-Nov-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i do agree that consumables have gotten cheaper. for example, i used to be able to reliably sell PWO at 275 [28-Nov-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Pggamer it does seem like electrolysis is a thing that would fit in this case. but no, it doesn't exist [28-Nov-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @ishwood it is profitable, idc what PrunPlanner says. Most profitable is PWO (if you make your own COT), REP, and PT (STL TRN reciepe) [28-Nov-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You can do the math yourself, it's not what PrunPlanner says it is [28-Nov-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @isherwood the other thing to consider is cost to make versus cost to buy (instead of profit). for example, if you need to buy EXO, it'd be cheaper to make it for 205 at a BMP than buy at 237 at the CX. it's not a big difference, but it's a difference [28-Nov-24 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and yeah, producing your own inputs helps a lot [28-Nov-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: One thing to note Eminence on what you just said, you have to factor in the money you _would of made_ if you had bought it and made your money makers [28-Nov-24 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So while it may be more expensive to buy at 237, that frees up your BMP to make stuff that will make you money [28-Nov-24 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Jus' something to consider [28-Nov-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Even if you're vertically integrated, there are lines where it's more profitable to go and sell the inputs on the CX and buy the finished product from someone else. I'm not complaining. It is what it is. But I'm probably going to raze the BMP in favor of a REF. [28-Nov-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: FWIW, I use FIO and googlesheets to run my calculations. I account for labor, building depreciation, but not ship transport. The only product that is consistently profitable but not by much is EXO. I have 1 manufacturing expert. The other ones work the REFs. [28-Nov-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me, almost everything at at BMP is profitable when i account for my own chepaer costs to acquire the input materials [28-Nov-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yeah, I'm based this off of the ASK prices at the BEN CX [28-Nov-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: but if I were to make the inputs myself, I could sell them at those ASK prices. [28-Nov-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: like what I do with COT for example [28-Nov-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: and then just buy the PWO or OVE [28-Nov-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, you're right to consider that [28-Nov-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: REF, fuel making in general really, is notoriously low profit margin. BMP is more profitable, what are your numbers looking like for BMP? I am making around 4k/d for running PT and REP [28-Nov-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: my numbers for STL+TRN->7PT : I can make PT at a zero profit of $400 per unit. Labor is $1004/day and building cost is $141/day ... for a total profit of $41/day. Forty-one. In contrast, one REF making FF makes about $2100/day. [28-Nov-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Perhaps it comes down to luxury consumables and expertise [28-Nov-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: IOW, the economics work out with PWO and COF and 5 experts ... but not on 0 experts and just RAT and DW [28-Nov-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you inspired me to run the numbers of OVE (which is something i make from PE and RCO). i make both PE and RCO so those have reduced costs. if i made 50 PE and 1 RCO and sold both at current CX prices, i would make a profit of 610. or i could forgo those profits and make 20 OVE instead, which would cost me 1980 if i were to buy 20xOVE at CX [28-Nov-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How is labor 1004/d? are you accounting for all of labor, or just that one building [28-Nov-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: My math comes up to ~5.551CIS/pio, so a BMP having 100Pio would be ~555CIS per day [28-Nov-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: just that one building [28-Nov-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: 100 pio on rat and dw [28-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Do you not give your workers PWO? [28-Nov-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: And COF, though I can kinda understand the cost evaluation on that one, but PWO is too cheap to pass up [28-Nov-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: some get them, some don't .. I do run two different kinds of profit calculations .. one w/o luxuries and one with both. Here I'm talking to no-lux version as not being profitable. [28-Nov-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Perhaps running BMP w/o luxuries is a trap :-) [28-Nov-24 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think at current lux prices, it's always more profitable to supply luxuries [28-Nov-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yeah, I've found few exceptions to running with luxuries. INC at full speed comes to mind when AG prices are particularly high. [28-Nov-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: COF I can see as debatable. For a while I was buying CAF and processing it myself to offset the cost, but yeah it's almost always worth the buy for Lux [28-Nov-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, when COF hit 1000 a few weeks ago, that was not good [28-Nov-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: but ... given my valuation of using ask prices for input and bids for output and getting negative profit, using luxuries will just make me lose money faster in many cases. So I guess the key is some kind of vertical integration .. or not/rarely losing the spread when buying and selling (no makret orders) [28-Nov-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Alr, math time. STL.CI1 TRN.CI1 for current prices, 8h24m for base time to make 7PT (multiply by 1440/504 to get exactly 20PT/d). [28-Nov-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Call that 2100CIS, mutlply by 1440/504 to get input cost/d, which is 6000, 20 time PT.CI1 is... [28-Nov-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Call it 400, so 8000, minus 6000 input cost, minus ~600 for employee consumables, still making 1.4k [28-Nov-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: This does not include building degradation, mind you [28-Nov-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: building degredation can be a lot, so it should always be included [28-Nov-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ech, fine [28-Nov-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: you seem to be using midprices ... if you have to buy STL and TRN at the ask, it's 1800 and 599 CIS respectively. [28-Nov-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Cost of building over 180, right? [28-Nov-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i should also say that when i include building degredation costs, i also take into account that i produce my own bfabs for cheaper than CX prices, which also helps drive down the my repair costs (thus drives down my COGM) [28-Nov-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so my numbers aren't really going to match your numbres isherwood [28-Nov-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: In fairness I used whatever number it just gave me [28-Nov-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yes, I kinda use the worst possible numbers. But that implies that if I go ~0 or negative profit, that you guys are getting your profits from elsewhere (like cheaper sourcing, lux, or experts) [28-Nov-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: STL is a little high right now if you check its chart [28-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: or trading [28-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me, the extra cost savings is entirely in vertical integration [28-Nov-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: and I bet having 5 experts? [28-Nov-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I* mainly source my own consumables, but I still buy STL,TRN, MFK, SFK, H, H3, so on so forth [28-Nov-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, i have 4 manu experts and 2 fuel experts [28-Nov-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and HQ is on katoa, so my BMPs are currently running at 161% efficiency [28-Nov-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so can I fairly conclude that 1) the local market in manufactured consumables is quite efficient 2) requires experts and verticals to actually compete? [28-Nov-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @isherwood have you run the numbers with just experts but without verticals? [28-Nov-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: But yeah, the good thing about BMP is that it cuts the cost of your consumables, plus it has options in case one of outputs gets oversaturated in the market, which only lasts like a week or 3 depending on how heavy people push it [28-Nov-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: fwiw, I started as a fuel refiner on katoa but kinda got bored with it and wanted to move into manufacturing .. but it seems like the manufacturing ladder (so to speak) is missing the lowest rungs .. [28-Nov-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: no, I haven't run the numbers at different efficiences .. my current problem is the transition from refiner to manufacturer [28-Nov-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I'd have to give up REF experts [28-Nov-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You can just add them back, they are just thre once you get tehm [28-Nov-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: probably goes towards the whole comparative advantage thing .. one planet for one thing [28-Nov-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, have you read this guide? it has some ideas if you want to move beyond fuel refining [28-Nov-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [28-Nov-24 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yeah .. ironically, that guide recommends building a BMP ;-) ... [28-Nov-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I have a FRM/FP setup on Pyrgos and I'm building out chemistry on Umbra [28-Nov-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm looking to get into chem, I am waiting to pay off some loans first [28-Nov-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I actually looked at construction on Gibson but Gibson also shows bad profit for many of the PIO lines for probably the same reason. [28-Nov-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Also have a small hydrogen facility on CB282 [28-Nov-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: but I can't get much bigger w/o going PRO... my ships are stressed to the max hauling stuff back and forth. [28-Nov-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: shipping was actually a big motivation for getting out of the fuel inudstry .. all that H and HE4 [28-Nov-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, having only 2 starter ships will eventually become a serious limitation [28-Nov-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll see about updating this guide with more actual numbers that should hopefully show how to make BMPs profitable [28-Nov-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: that would be nice ... as I said, I've only checked about 40% of the production lines for profit. I was just wondering whether I was missing something or committing to walking into a local minimum ... Like, perhaps manufacturing is mainly profitable at the settler or higher levels. [28-Nov-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Profitable, yes, but higher up stuff takes longer to sell [28-Nov-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: making spaceships and all that [28-Nov-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: but I presume there's less competition at higher end stuff [28-Nov-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean yeah, but despite it being a Econ game, theres not really competition like that, aside from people undercutting you on the lowest ASK price lol [28-Nov-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Which I am also a filthy culprit of :^) [28-Nov-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: actually if I was king, I think the more annoying problem on the CX is the ridiculously low bid prices [28-Nov-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: for some things anyway [28-Nov-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Over production in a sense, but I wouldn't consider that competition per say. Got to remember that people wont sell there stuff for less than what it costs to make it [28-Nov-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Plus, lower prices ultiamtely helps the whole, as people can spend on other things than consumables [28-Nov-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: it's also a downside of going vertical that it makes the markets thinner ... but that is what it is as well [28-Nov-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Thinner makes the prices higher, it's a give and take [28-Nov-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Just made up a quick plan in PRUNplanner, set the empire CX prices to 30 day BEN average, and put a BMP on Katoa with lux consumables and experts to check recipe profits. Looks like the 2 most profitable right now are EXO and OFF. [28-Nov-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://prunplanner.org/shared/e627f9e7-6bbe-4783-9a9b-50ebc8abb9b5 {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/shared/e627f9e7-6bbe-4783-9a9b-50ebc8abb9b5 PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [28-Nov-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I will say: BMPs are not generally super profitable, their benefit is in versatility. If fuel prices tank and inputs get expensive, that REF has no choice but to lose money or sit idle. The diversity of recipe options in a BMP means you may lose out on short term profits compared to other buildings, but long term, you basically always have a somewhat profitable option [28-Nov-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: you can buy all sorts of input materials when they're cheap, and sell all sorts of outputs when they're expensive. It's much more involved than making fuel, so if that bored you and you like monitoring the CX more, manufacturing is fun [28-Nov-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @isherwood [28-Nov-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I'd say look into some other manufacturing options. Run a few BMPs and some other stuff that's maybe more profitable short term. Look into PPFs and WPLs maybe [28-Nov-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc26a198d1a** left.* [28-Nov-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ajwb** left.* [28-Nov-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vsubs** left.* [28-Nov-24 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: EXO is also what my spreadsheet landed on .. but basically importing AL and OVE (cheaper to buy than to make) and selling back to market at prices where another REF or WPL would be more profitable. I do appreciate the ability to stock up and make what I need instead of racing out to buy it. OTOH, I could also just stock the consumables directly. 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[29-Nov-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Umbra has very little hydrogen, so i don't recommend collecting it from Umbra [29-Nov-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: why cant we collect water (H2O) and turn it into H and O2? [29-Nov-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: @Niknik67 Regardless of if you buy or make it, using an item has a cost equal to the sell price of that item. Regardless of if you sell or consume it. [29-Nov-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: its a simple thing to do [29-Nov-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jayjaxx**: If you can make H for 100 a unit and it sells for 200, the cost of consuming it yourself is 200. [29-Nov-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i am biased, since i supply a lot of hydrogen to the commodity market. but if you check prunplanner, you'll see that extracting hydrogen from Umbra will cost you about 80 CIS per unit. it's true that this is less than the currrent market price of 115 CIS per unit, so it is technically cheaper to extract from umbra than to buy it [29-Nov-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but if you can afford another base on umbra, it'll be more profitable to do chemistry things on umbra than it is to extract hydrogen [29-Nov-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that said, there is more to his game than just maximizing profits, so if you think collecting hydrogen on umbra sounds fun to you, then go for it :) and if you're serious about collecting your own hydrogen, the best planet for that is CB-282d (though it's expensive to build there) [29-Nov-24 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: off topic question, I currently have a SF fuel production on katoa. what would be the next logical thing for me to do from here? [29-Nov-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @SoulKnight checkout our guide! https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [29-Nov-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: thanks [29-Nov-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: also with beginner ships, you can't really max out cb282d, so you either need bigger ships or a way to do contracts -> PRO. FWIW, 4 collectors fill a beginner ship in ~3 days there. [29-Nov-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raphiboiii** joined.* [29-Nov-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vrenshrrgn** joined.* [29-Nov-24 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braino_11** joined.* [30-Nov-24 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CutieBoy2005** left.* [30-Nov-24 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Niknik67**: how is fuel cosumtion works (for ships), it depends on load? beacuse it don't look like 0.015 a second on starter ship [30-Nov-24 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackNoff** joined.* [30-Nov-24 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Open a buffer and go to BLU [30-Nov-24 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: From there, you can test your ships flying, using variable weight and fuel amounts [30-Nov-24 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also on BLU, you can see the starter ships stats, such as its base weight, before having anything in it [30-Nov-24 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Niknik67**: thanks [30-Nov-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so many ship options... has anyone made a document with bunch of "standard build" ships? [30-Nov-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: i wonder how much i should set aside for making a ship, thus far i have 2 bases with the main one on katoa but im starting to notice how logistics is becomeing a bottleneck for me [30-Nov-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: On discord there are spme shipbuilders, one has lits for new player upgrades [30-Nov-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: Like 600k for WCB, or 930ish for WCB+fuel tank upgrades [30-Nov-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: --schaitr-- [30-Nov-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: Is his name [30-Nov-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: what is WCB? [30-Nov-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: 3k t/1k m3 size cargo [30-Nov-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: you can MAT WCB [30-Nov-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: its prettymuch the best cargo bay except for specific cases [30-Nov-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: the 1k t/3k m3 cargo requires more upgrades to the ship and costs a lot more [30-Nov-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** deleted this message.* [30-Nov-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Most people either go 2kt/2km^3 or 3kt/1km^3 (which is cheaper), it really depends what you plan to haul. There _are_ more volume based builds, but they are bit more niche for like gases and other volume heavy items. Ultimately depends on what you plan to haul [30-Nov-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also v important to note: you need PRO to build a ship/access a shipyard, and if you domt have PRO you can only move 2 ships at a time, regardless of how many you may own (ie if you get PRO to make ships, then drop PRO after, youll only be able to use 2 at a time) [30-Nov-24 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how does the game decide what two ships you're able to operate once you drop down to BASIC [30-Nov-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I assume 2 active at a time, so once you have 2 active it stops the others from moving until one stops [30-Nov-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useref4a2dd55a** left.* [30-Nov-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trepid** joined.* [30-Nov-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: Anyone know where i can get a medium cargo bay? [30-Nov-24 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: any idea of a rough estimate of what it would cost to upgrade to a 2k/2k ship? I hear stories about package deals as well as stories about people spending a lot on parts to DIY. [30-Nov-24 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: from the beginner ship [30-Nov-24 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: from my calculations to ugrade to a large cargo bay its gonna be around 2,500,000 [30-Nov-24 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: which is why im looking for a medium cargo bay [30-Nov-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: and how much is that upgrade? [30-Nov-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: 1k/1k I presume? [30-Nov-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: 450,000 [30-Nov-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolverine69** joined.* [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I strongly suggest upgrading to a WCB [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: thats a 3k/1k [30-Nov-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ^^ what i was saying earlier [30-Nov-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: If I create a shipyard order while my PRO license is active, can I contribute to that order and finish it even after my license downgrades to BASIC? [30-Nov-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: If so I'm going to go ahead and queue up a WCB/fuel-saving engine upgrade [30-Nov-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siekwie** joined.* [30-Nov-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Idk. Maybe ask global chat, or the discord [30-Nov-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Alr I posted on the Benten LM for some inputs to be hauled, ~15CIS/t for the full (starter) loads, plus some stragler items i want moved for about ~10CIS/u [30-Nov-24 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: As a side note, if anyone knows a supplier of STL or AL (for BMP productions) I would be willing to possibly set up a more solid/regular contract, possibly have it shipped here who knows πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ [01-Dec-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Thank you @Laerdros , you are a doll πŸ’™ [01-Dec-24 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: POsted 8x 250 GAL @150 CIS/u ads on the LM ^_^ [01-Dec-24 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Posted* [01-Dec-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***loonydawg** joined.* [01-Dec-24 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useref3ce5649c** left.* [01-Dec-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hashtagPinoy** left.* [01-Dec-24 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zemas** left.* [02-Dec-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xinon** left.* [02-Dec-24 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***z3notic** left.* [02-Dec-24 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Djingo_Riggers** joined.* [02-Dec-24 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldMiner** left.* [02-Dec-24 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alpha_wolf19** left.* [02-Dec-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMason** joined.* [02-Dec-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Necular_Fox** left.* [02-Dec-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: My gosh,- what was happening with the prise of SF till i was gone? X: - it was below 10cis/SF, is it really fair if players can 'lock' prices that high? ^^'''' [02-Dec-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i guess you missed the day when it traded at MM prices at 16 CIS :) [02-Dec-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: what? 16 per? ><''' - maybe i should try to produse and sell my stuff only locally again,.. ^^''''' [02-Dec-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i know it looks like we're trying to "lock" the prices, and we are kinda doing that... but really we're trying to stabilize the price of SF.CI1 [02-Dec-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we want fuel sellers to sell their fuel on the CX and know that they're getting close to the max price, and not have to worry about big swings in price. we think stability is better for everyone [02-Dec-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (and of course buyers want stability too) [02-Dec-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: Ah okay,... sounds nice in the first way,.. but i would wish that this woudl match every res then,.. x) [02-Dec-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: But thank you very much for the explanation :) [02-Dec-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you're welcome, and also welcome back to the game :) [02-Dec-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Icemman**: Still someone new what happens when setting up a new base on a planet with no population. Do I have to worry about that when selecting my next planet [02-Dec-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what planet are you thinking about settling? if it really has no population at all, you'll need to construct some population infrastructure buildings, and probably run a few immigration programs [02-Dec-24 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all doable, but pretty expensive [02-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Icemman**: that's what I thought thanks. [02-Dec-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: also, if there's 0 pop, there's probably a reason. what are you trying to build/make? [02-Dec-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: we might know good places for our [02-Dec-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: *it [02-Dec-24 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FDSoloss** left.* [02-Dec-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi all, we're starting to think about what it would take to build some Gateways around the Benten area. the costs to build one are pretty impressive, probably 200 million minimum, probably more like 300mil. the bill of materials for an upgraded gateway looks like this: https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/gateway-cost-summary.png {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/gateway-cost-summary.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pG698lcA90wRQh2e6C-_7BM8kHNLamZ4L1UH_c9HoUY/https/oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/gateway-cost-summary.png [02-Dec-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if anyone is interested in helping out, either supplying some of these parts, contributing funds to buy these parts, or helping to coordinate all this, please reach out either here or in the UFO discord [02-Dec-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: We can do this. I heard LS-231 is a good candidate and may have an AGC gateway ready for a link to Katoa.. ;p [02-Dec-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: That will be my one shameless plug, scouts honor [02-Dec-24 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, it's a very solid gateway target [02-Dec-24 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: considering everyone goes through it on their way to Antares space [03-Dec-24 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pinda9878** joined.* [03-Dec-24 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Hey yall, anyone making an abundance of OVE? I want to be very clear im not in a NEED for them, and plan on flipping, so I dont want any from people who are just trying to be helpful for liek newbies and such. [03-Dec-24 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: But also, if you got a spare couple hundred... or thousand, let me know. Would save me time to run and get them from CX, and possibly the effort of you shipping them there [03-Dec-24 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Water_Metal** joined.* [03-Dec-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: GAL.CI1 prices are crazy again (selling at 349 at the time of this writing). is anyone interested in building a few extractors here at katoa (at least temporarily) ? we can offer grants or building materials to pay for the new construction [03-Dec-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WPD** left.* [03-Dec-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: NAB.CI1 is currently quite cheap. Indeed, so cheap that making SF.CI1 that way is more profitable than the GAL line usually is. [03-Dec-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: good intel from isherwood [03-Dec-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that said, i'd still love to see a big more GAL production :) [03-Dec-24 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: Oi~ eminence32,- are extractors at Katoa really thatsefull? i think its an production planet, so extractors would run without bonuses or am i wrong? (sorry for the dumb question, i'm even out of my inactivitiy, still pretty new in the game and 'only' running 4 BMP's at a pretty good rate actually,.) [03-Dec-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's not a dumb question, in fact it's the exact right question to ask [03-Dec-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you're right that katoa isn't ideal for GAL extraction, but it's not terrible. it costs about 65 CIS to extract 1 GAL on katoa [03-Dec-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so extracting here on katoa will be profitable. it will generally be *more* profitable to use that base area to do something else, but if you're chasing maximum fun (instead of chasing maximum profits), extracting GAL on katoa might be for you [03-Dec-24 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: mhmm okay,- then thank you very uch for that informations :D - i wil lhave a look at the prices overall and will ask a closer friend what he thinks about this,- i think i should still have enought res left to build an extractor or two and/or some Housings. ^-^ [03-Dec-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whitelite** left.* [03-Dec-24 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I have three res experts built up, and I can fit two extractors in without having to rearrange anything too much. May try to get that set up. [03-Dec-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: 2600t/700m3 shipping available BEN>KAT for 7K, any currency [03-Dec-24 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: ok i left, and sorry for spam [03-Dec-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Parthrunax** left.* [03-Dec-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: One message doesn't strike me as spam. Although maybe I should solicit the opinions of others in the channel - is it good to advertise spare shipping capacity? I would think yes. [03-Dec-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, it's nice when people announce spare shipping capacity, but the problem is that if everyone did it in local chat, it would get a little noisy. i really wish the game developers would add in a more robust marketplace for shippers [03-Dec-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: i wish you could just mark stuff for shipping, and the amount per t or m3 you'd be willing to pay and let people pick up spare cargo as they go [03-Dec-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: like i can set my rate at ben for shipments to kat, then just mark things i want to ship and they get reserved until i unmark them [03-Dec-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Maybe if the messages are kept very short. For example, here is some space I will soon have: [03-Dec-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: 300t/300m3 KAT > BEN in 90 min [03-Dec-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Perhaps a more fundamental issue is that the local market ads are often full of nearly identical ads most of which do not seem to make economic sense pricewise compared to just going and buying/selling from the CX. This makes it easy to miss legit contracts ... and so there's a need to advertise in the chat instead. However, if advertising in the chat becomes commonplace, the same problem may appear here in the chat. [03-Dec-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: one solution would be to increase local market posting fees but make them refundable if the contracts are actually filled. This would provide an incentive for more reasonable offers. [03-Dec-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Is that mechanically possible with the current LM system? [03-Dec-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: seems like it would be an easy programming change. Currently the posting fees are low enough that the local market can be spammed with identical ads for attention. [03-Dec-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Not sure how others react to it, but I rarely bother looking because I rarely find any worthwhile offers. -> People advertising here instead. [03-Dec-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lynx.palana** left.* [03-Dec-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoonTycoon** deleted this message.* [03-Dec-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3a8eb78cc** left.* [03-Dec-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I appreciate the personal ads, imo. Katoa is a lil off my beaten flying path, so if i can get semi regular shipments of random goods, it helps offset an entire fly out myself [04-Dec-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: well if people generally might find them helpful i will post my spare space, should only be once a day or so [04-Dec-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: Space available: KAT > Gib or BEN.... 2250t/590m3 total, 10/t or m3 (highest), send contract. Leaving in 2.5 hours [04-Dec-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JazzMaster** joined.* [04-Dec-24 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RotedaR** joined.* [04-Dec-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tark** joined.* [04-Dec-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slothian** left.* [05-Dec-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soldier58771** joined.* [05-Dec-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: For those with idling ships, note that money can be made by trading between ANT and BEN. For example, taking DW from BEN to ANT. Then taking LST back from ANT to BEN. For the refiners, selling fuel on ANT is also usually worth the trip. [05-Dec-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: idle ships?? what is this fantasy you speak of [05-Dec-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: My ships are only idle when they arrive at a destination while I am asleep [05-Dec-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: To busy hauling H and HE3 back and forth to feed my REFs [05-Dec-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I think especially new players have more shipping capacity than they have product to fill the hulls. Maybe that was just me. [05-Dec-24 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I still have enough "capacity*time" that I do the Katoa->ANT->BEN triangle for extra profit. However, it is tight, I rarely have a ship sitting anywhere more than 5 mins. They're timed to arrive either 6am or 6pm on a given day. [05-Dec-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I currently have 4 bases. Doing trading routes might only apply to those with 2 ships and less than 3 or 5 bases depending on how hungry those bases are. [05-Dec-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rames1126**: I might have some idle time once I upgrade my ships since I am still on the starter ships [05-Dec-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah i need to save up for my ship upgrades with the UFO beginner deal. I forgot his name, but 2kt/2km^3 for less than a million a piece isnt bad, now that i am starting to get decent productions going. Like 3 weeks profits once im all set up how im trying to be [05-Dec-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: who gives out upgrades for a 2k2k for <1 mill?! [05-Dec-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @ Schaitr [05-Dec-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: For new players under 160d [05-Dec-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tylorb** joined.* [05-Dec-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You can find him in the UFO discord server, under "Cheaper WCB upgrade for new(er) players" [05-Dec-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: WCB is 3k1k [05-Dec-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: and its like 600K, 930K if you want expanded fuel tanks [05-Dec-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: i bought two last week [05-Dec-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: you can also get a loan from various people [05-Dec-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Miami_Dangerous** left.* [05-Dec-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***4xtell** joined.* [05-Dec-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That's my bad, you are right. He does 3kt/1km^3, not 2kt/2km^3 like i said by mistake. I apologize [05-Dec-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: as always, I'm lookin for Carbon. if you have extra carbon somewhere, let me know :) [05-Dec-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: it's a big job supplying the universe with unlimited plastics [05-Dec-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We have a carbon cult, I think we need a plastics cult too. [05-Dec-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ave Plasticus Maximus [05-Dec-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: On another note. I have an announcement for my fellow Katoans. FIOC has, after receiving an influx of applications the last month and a half, is looking to bring on more members. We are open to new players, veterans. We have a mentor program for newer players. Our only requirement is that you be active every day (exceptions for when you are traveling or during holidays or other external conditions of course). [05-Dec-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: As we have been growing rapidly, our interdependence has increased. Due to the sheer number of bases, breaks in the supply chain can cause shutdowns across the entire chain. But if you are up for joining our cooperative, we would be happy to have you. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [05-Dec-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChubbshireFarms** joined.* [05-Dec-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BearBuddy** left.* [06-Dec-24 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***no_idea** joined.* [06-Dec-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***craftingcity** left.* [06-Dec-24 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***no_idea** left.* [06-Dec-24 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xenite** joined.* [06-Dec-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yukinojo** joined.* [06-Dec-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kairoth** joined.* [06-Dec-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnitedNations007** left.* [06-Dec-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Guapoo** joined.* [06-Dec-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zvin** joined.* [07-Dec-24 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mich3020** joined.* [07-Dec-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Razor170** left.* [07-Dec-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daek** joined.* [07-Dec-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: 300t/300m3 of spare shipping capacity leaving BEN for Katoa in 30 minutes. Send me a contract if you need something shipped, 3 CIS/t/m3 [07-Dec-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf329b67687** left.* [07-Dec-24 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi katoa. does anyone need any cheap LST and have an idle ship? i'll sell you some at 50 CIS per unit, but the catch is that you have to go pick it up from LS-231b [07-Dec-24 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Invictrex** joined.* [07-Dec-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I am interested in a load of LST [07-Dec-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I would also buy and pick up LST at those prices if there is any left to claim [07-Dec-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Along with H, I will start selling small amounts of GAL and AMM on the LM here :) I probably need one more ship but I finally have the capacity to start shipping everything to sell on Katoa (and H on Umbra) [07-Dec-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Just post to the LM as usual and I will continue to keep an eye out for them! 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[09-Dec-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep, i have a little bit [09-Dec-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm offering to setup bases on EW for people in the BEN region. https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1314420529473785896 [09-Dec-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Terms are detailed ^^ [09-Dec-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TJRoh01** joined.* [09-Dec-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I make SFK and MFK in small amounts. I can usually help you out but I am not interested in a permanent arrangement. 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There was only 3 on the CX and need 8 for my next HQ upgrade. [11-Dec-24 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I do on Geidi Prime [11-Dec-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nhilus** joined.* [11-Dec-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: No worries on bringing that in. I do have a ship doing a trip to MOR soon. [11-Dec-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I need some UTS too, and I need to sell some stuff at Moria too, so I could also tack some more UTS onto that shipment [11-Dec-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: How much would you need shipped to MOR? [11-Dec-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Not much, <100t. I was going to fill up the rest of my hold with one of the shipment contracts on the BEN LM [11-Dec-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I suppose I could just send you a contract, although I have a bunch of different items on the manifest which is why I didn't just post for it [11-Dec-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Yeah, gets a bit rough when you need to ship lots of small quanities. I wish there was a way to bundle things for shipping. [11-Dec-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: For that reason, I think I am just going to stick with my plan of a MOR run. But hey, shipping surplus UTS back to this market is a good way of doing NCC > CIS currency exchange without a PRO license. 4500 NCC > 4500 CIS is easy and lightweight. [11-Dec-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: As long as you are willing to sit on the UTS. It is not something that moves fast. [11-Dec-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I was thinking about doing the same. :) [11-Dec-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Well anyway, to Moria! (once I shuffle some inventories around) [11-Dec-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Safe travels. [11-Dec-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***slither14** joined.* [11-Dec-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GR_NIK** left.* [11-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XVTheDevilXV** joined.* [11-Dec-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Don.V.** left.* [11-Dec-24 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Multiple shipping contracts from BEN to Katoa, if anyone has spare space. Thank you in advance! [12-Dec-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7aae97d24c** left.* [12-Dec-24 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jjubs27** joined.* [12-Dec-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Djingo_Riggers** left.* [12-Dec-24 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: \ [12-Dec-24 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxValu** left.* [12-Dec-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Intensesu** left.* [12-Dec-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWolf_ShadowFlame** joined.* [12-Dec-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silco** joined.* [12-Dec-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lucislayer** left.* [12-Dec-24 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naitou** joined.* [12-Dec-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grewald** left.* [12-Dec-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GXYM31** left.* [13-Dec-24 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilentReaper** deleted this message.* [13-Dec-24 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [13-Dec-24 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JazzMaster** left.* [13-Dec-24 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Parsival** joined.* [13-Dec-24 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jjubs27** left.* [13-Dec-24 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alxz** joined.* [13-Dec-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soldier58771** left.* [13-Dec-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nefrem** joined.* [13-Dec-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Swergpaki** joined.* [13-Dec-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tylorb** left.* [13-Dec-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wes1274** left.* [13-Dec-24 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Giovanshire** joined.* [14-Dec-24 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***H111** left.* [14-Dec-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tobybbq** joined.* [14-Dec-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd9336fa7ca** left.* [14-Dec-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ExcelsiorV2** left.* [14-Dec-24 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2606f2afb0** left.* [15-Dec-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirRedicas** joined.* [15-Dec-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daek** left.* [15-Dec-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avalloch** joined.* [15-Dec-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blueman1** joined.* [15-Dec-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***loetsch** joined.* [15-Dec-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kimchi_OP** left.* [16-Dec-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 243.97t/422.54m^3 open space going from Katoa to BEN, leaves in 6-10h, will take roughly a day to reach CX after departure. Either post to LM or me directly, 5CIS/highest unit [16-Dec-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9f3437951e** left.* [16-Dec-24 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magican1980** left.* [16-Dec-24 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Can I buy 50 OVE from somebody? [16-Dec-24 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: LM AD is up [16-Dec-24 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***krebsgamer22** joined.* [16-Dec-24 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Diddly done neighbor [16-Dec-24 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also, i got 63.97t/242.54m^3 remaining space if anyone wants to still use it for whatever. Still leaving at roughly same time [16-Dec-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Posted another LM ad [16-Dec-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: At BEN, not on Katoa, but it's for 63.9t [16-Dec-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeoCGA** deleted this message.* [16-Dec-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Anyone able to sell me some DCL? I only need 10. Message me and I can put up a LM add or send you a contract. I'm willing to take delivery here or at the CX. [16-Dec-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: my DCL need has been filled. thanks @eminence32 [16-Dec-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i feel like i need more than two 3dprinters. this stuff takes so long to make [16-Dec-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GabboGero** left.* [16-Dec-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8eda282dba** left.* [16-Dec-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braisitopro** joined.* [16-Dec-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NinjaWarrior9** joined.* [16-Dec-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***funnydude** left.* [16-Dec-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user067a1475ff** left.* [16-Dec-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alfred.sjodin1** joined.* [16-Dec-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Midlantica** left.* [16-Dec-24 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Herrpustebluemchen** left.* [16-Dec-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Got an expedited shipping ad up for BEN -> Katoa. [17-Dec-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Elaria**: It's on it's way [17-Dec-24 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lier** left.* [17-Dec-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Thanks [17-Dec-24 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I've posted some expedited shipping ads as well if anyone is en route [17-Dec-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crom68** joined.* [17-Dec-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LunarPixel** left.* [17-Dec-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GalaxyBliss** left.* [17-Dec-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0f635f55b0** left.* [17-Dec-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bac0id** joined.* [18-Dec-24 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pandy1000** joined.* [18-Dec-24 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sertcan** joined.* [18-Dec-24 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Badge_2812** joined.* [18-Dec-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf300a034d3** left.* [18-Dec-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Anyone looked at Ben's PE Market recently [18-Dec-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grays_Anatomy** joined.* [18-Dec-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Yeah... It is a mess on all the CXs [18-Dec-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it's just one person propping the price up, it'll drop back down soon enough [18-Dec-24 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: until then, if you need any I can sell here on Katoa for 8/u. only for personal use, please only buy what you need for a week at most [18-Dec-24 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: it's pe season for LLLC [18-Dec-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: One word: plastics [18-Dec-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: I aggressively undercut current PE price when I go to sell :P it's pretty nuts [18-Dec-24 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AxonParadise** left.* [18-Dec-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Undertacer** left.* [18-Dec-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: anyone know whats best to make in Prefab plants MK 1 on Benten? [18-Dec-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i personally make a lot of BSE/BDE/BBH because i use them all the time in my own construction and building repairs [18-Dec-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pabloo** left.* [18-Dec-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BodyguardxD** left.* [18-Dec-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-Blank-** joined.* [18-Dec-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redern** left.* [18-Dec-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercd9c472902** left.* [18-Dec-24 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***evadinglife** joined.* [18-Dec-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chrisvdm** left.* [19-Dec-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMadCam** joined.* [19-Dec-24 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: best as in most profitable? If you don't have a cheap source of material input, it's currently BBH and BSE, but you're almost better off just buying Bxy directly from the market. [19-Dec-24 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: For example, PE is currently spiking, so it's too expensive to make BDE as opposed to just buying BDE directly. Ditto BDA which also has BDE inputs. However, a PP2 also makes these with different inputs + Lxy prefabs as well. [19-Dec-24 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: *PE inputs [19-Dec-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: PE shouldn't still be spiked this high [19-Dec-24 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Just yesterday we had PE selling at 35/u for 4 hours on ben [19-Dec-24 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: PrUn needs a recycling plant so we can extract the pricy PE from our buildings. [19-Dec-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Truth [19-Dec-24 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: MOR has a couple of us trying to keep the price below 14/u [19-Dec-24 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it's still just the same person propping the price way up. the bids are getting smaller though, and there's plenty of production. I suspect when they finally break, the price could drop real low for a bit [19-Dec-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I'm still puzzled why people do this. Are they trying to corner the market? (Does that actually work out here?) Is it a fat finger? Are people running econ experiments to write a paper (that would be cool)? Are they trying to reset price expectations (similar to those trying to hold down prices to zero-profit levels to boost the general economy---those usually being the ones doing politics instead)? [19-Dec-24 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: He has done this before as well. He did start off with having Buys and Sells, but then only the large standing buy order, which was finally filled. [19-Dec-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I would rather he make a standing order at 8. I think that would be a fiar price for a minium without hurting people that need it as inputs. [19-Dec-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: If anybody has surplus carbon that they aren't already using for PE production I suppose I could help meet urgent demand by trading carbon for polyethylene. [19-Dec-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***imDzed** joined.* [19-Dec-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeneralConsensus** joined.* [19-Dec-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***floop** left.* [19-Dec-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FInglan** left.* [19-Dec-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcadiann** joined.* [19-Dec-24 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: can someone fly the station closer >:U [19-Dec-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: On it. If I do everything just right, the station will get closer and closer to Katoa for the next couple of weeks [19-Dec-24 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ™ [19-Dec-24 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: Katoa Katoa Katoa! [20-Dec-24 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Just to be crystal, when we are complaining about PE and prices spikes, we are talking about Worse Manufacturers, right? [20-Dec-24 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XVTheDevilXV** left.* [20-Dec-24 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah [20-Dec-24 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I'm not actually complaining, occasional disruption is good for the market. but they are definitely the one trying to prop the PE prices up to double what they were [20-Dec-24 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: good luck Worse, I make 70k+ PE/d πŸ˜… [20-Dec-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'll complain about them a bit, and have before, I've noticed them do similar antics across multiple BMP outputs. I mostly see them in REP and PT, stuff i make, but I've seen them around in other markets. Undercutting the best ask isn't anything new, but if you are also the best bid, and put mUlTiPlE millions in holding that position, thats where my complaints start [20-Dec-24 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I will give credit where it's due though, it's a free account, so they've earned every Sol they have. At least as much as you'd consider market manipulation as "earning" [20-Dec-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe it's their own way to inducing more PE production ;) [20-Dec-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: i love it, i sold all my spare PE to him for like 14/u [20-Dec-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: and i have more on the way to undercut his resale position [20-Dec-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWolf_ShadowFlame** left.* [20-Dec-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: I'm a new player just basking in the PE money [20-Dec-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah once this fails the PE price will plummet. sell now, make things that don't use PE, then after it drops buy it up and pivot Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― [20-Dec-24 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: My workers will be wearing double layers of overalls this winter [20-Dec-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol [20-Dec-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user247acbc927** left.* [20-Dec-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user65071c56a1** left.* [20-Dec-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zero_Sake** joined.* [20-Dec-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doogle94** joined.* [20-Dec-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: he's not doing anything wrong. it's his money. it he thinks he can rock the market, then its on his own dime. if he fails, and he probably will, then it will be a great joke for the rest of us [20-Dec-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: i make about 26k PE a day and all my inputs are stable so he'll just eventually run out of money trying to buy me and the other 10 people that make 25+k PE a day. [20-Dec-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: in regular terms. he would have to float about 2.5mill+ a day to lock out competition and price set, while still trying to make sales. my estimate is that most players prepare for a 7 day supply, so you're looking at a potential 18million credit float or more depending on how the supply ramps up in response. [20-Dec-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: i usually dont say much because i like the chaos, but i feel the need to allay panic in my fellow katoans [20-Dec-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: These market shocks happen from time to time. In almost all cases, the player is not actually trying to make money rather it is to create some chaos or for their own amusement. [20-Dec-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: There was a player ages ago that would periodically buy all the hydrogen - that was interesting... [20-Dec-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it also gives us something new to talk about, besides "how's the weather" :) [20-Dec-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: oh, thanks for asking. not as rainy as yesterday [20-Dec-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: good to hear. we have some snow here ❄️ [20-Dec-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: WOW!!! that is very expensive PE!! :O [20-Dec-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: sorry.. it late on joining in ;) [20-Dec-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome to the party! [20-Dec-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deathchiefgrin69** joined.* [20-Dec-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***knyee** joined.* [20-Dec-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: so about that PE [20-Dec-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: get them BMPs fired up y'all [20-Dec-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: yall keep buying my (slightly) overpriced PE, and I'll keep throwing them down lol [20-Dec-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: baby's first base only has 3 :( [20-Dec-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, but that just means you have room to expand! 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[22-Dec-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: some kind of combined storage [22-Dec-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not that i know of. but some 3rd party tools like FIO might have this [22-Dec-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chrbr** left.* [22-Dec-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: true, just found it in fio, thanks [22-Dec-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chemistry0101** joined.* [22-Dec-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Shipping contract at Ben Paying 5000 CIS for 1 Day delivery of 0.4t/0.4m [22-Dec-24 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: To katoa [22-Dec-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Corsair420** joined.* [22-Dec-24 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: posted lucrative shipping ads on cb-282d [22-Dec-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: especially nice for new people not using all their shipping capacity [22-Dec-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tobybbq** left.* [22-Dec-24 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemonkey** joined.* [22-Dec-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemonkey** left.* [22-Dec-24 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lemonkey** joined.* [23-Dec-24 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: Welcome on our very fine planet, @Lemonkey [23-Dec-24 12:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lemonkey**: I'm glad to be here [23-Dec-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***recidyweng** joined.* [23-Dec-24 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueArmy_101** joined.* [23-Dec-24 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: does somebody have large amounts of BSE to sell here on Katoa? [23-Dec-24 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Define large? I have like ten on hand - in ~3 days I will have 11 more because of my prefab plant [23-Dec-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: i think by large they mean like 300 or more [23-Dec-24 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: more like 1k :-D [23-Dec-24 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: coming back from a longer hiatus and all my building need repairing :-D [23-Dec-24 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nhilus** left.* [23-Dec-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: does anybody know somebody who ships large amounts of LST to Katoa? [23-Dec-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I have an extra base permit, but where do click to upgrade my base area from 500 to 750? [23-Dec-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: or do I need additional material as well? [23-Dec-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: BS, then move ACT to your base of choice. [23-Dec-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: cool, thx! [23-Dec-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: can somebody explain how I can sell my stuff? [23-Dec-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: (downloaded the game today) [23-Dec-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome @BlueArmy_101 ! [23-Dec-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can sell your stuff by putting it into a ship, flying that ship to a commodity market (benten station is the nearest commodity market) and then selling on that market [23-Dec-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: How do I navigate the menu? [23-Dec-24 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: like I found the market but I don't understand how to tell the ship to fly away [23-Dec-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Can you find the tutorials? [23-Dec-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: the tut didn't tell me how to actually sell stuff or I just can't remember [23-Dec-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: I just can't select a storage location [23-Dec-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: it says select one but when I click it nothin happens [23-Dec-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: if you haven't changed the starting setup too much .. look at the Katoa screen (#4 probably). In the two ship section, there are submenus for ship info, ship fuel, and ship flight control. You want the flight control. [23-Dec-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: okay thank you [23-Dec-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Opening a new buffer and typing FLT will get you all your ships [23-Dec-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Welcome! [23-Dec-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: also try to Global channel, you'll get help quicker help there . of course your questions are welcome here too :) [23-Dec-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blueman1** left.* [23-Dec-24 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BezirganbasiMoiz** joined.* [23-Dec-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***privvy-salesman** joined.* [23-Dec-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: anyone available to sell 3 BDE on planet? [24-Dec-24 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yes, send me a contract @10% below market price [24-Dec-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: did you two get in contact, Nic&Madcam? [24-Dec-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balazamon0** joined.* [24-Dec-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: Another CHAD has arrived [24-Dec-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Balazamon0**: No clue what I'm doing though lol [24-Dec-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome! [24-Dec-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: feel free to ask questions, we're all very friendly around here [24-Dec-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dengetorix** joined.* [24-Dec-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Braisitopro** left.* [24-Dec-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TONFISK** joined.* [24-Dec-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user642cf53f15** left.* [24-Dec-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Li-Di** joined.* [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: @Balazamon0 [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: you do whatever ur job is [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: optimise it [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: buy more buildings [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: optimise [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: increase base [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: optimise [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: make more money [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: buy more buildings [24-Dec-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: til you run out of base space [24-Dec-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: then you ponder [24-Dec-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but thatll take you about half a year [24-Dec-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeneralConsensus** deleted this message.* [24-Dec-24 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: birdie landed in the wrong COM [24-Dec-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Baiklah** left.* [24-Dec-24 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Stock up on a year of DW because you’re very thirsty [24-Dec-24 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiritwo** left.* [24-Dec-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***brownman304** joined.* [25-Dec-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackTheRyan** joined.* [25-Dec-24 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: Jack has landed :) [25-Dec-24 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zhuwu** joined.* [25-Dec-24 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: i went away for 3 days and suddenly ammonia market ceased to exist [25-Dec-24 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Same with FTL, what happened? [25-Dec-24 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: wait ftl too!? [25-Dec-24 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: some big ahh player decided to be funny [25-Dec-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I sent my ship with a small pack of FTL for sale and now it costs nothing. GGs [25-Dec-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: wasted all my money [25-Dec-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Ship is not even there yet [25-Dec-24 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: ain't no way this game can be read as stock market irl,gotta understand the dynamics here [25-Dec-24 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: yo can i get ftl for 1ppu :p [25-Dec-24 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I'd rather sell it for 9 on the market then [25-Dec-24 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: worth the try DX [25-Dec-24 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: First they go manufacturing, now the price for fuel goes to the abyss. I already regret starting as a fuel engineer. [25-Dec-24 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: i think it was neon energy that satisfied all fuel(and amm) needs [25-Dec-24 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: i mean with devil(idk name of the player) tried to vote in for fuel, i knew prices gonna be bombed [25-Dec-24 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: might as well buy the cheap fuel and sell for larger price,if you have the money [25-Dec-24 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: That's the point, I'm broke af, 400 CIS on my bank account. At least I'm kinda packed on supplies so can somehow survive for some time. [25-Dec-24 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: nvm i bought them all,can you buy 1?i want to see if it can restablise the market [25-Dec-24 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: anyway,try contracts,they also save you [25-Dec-24 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: yeah, I'm on it. [25-Dec-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: welcome to the game btw [25-Dec-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Huh. That's a big order that got filled. Whales splashing around tn ig [25-Dec-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Almost half a million units of FF. Would make one hell of a secret santa gift, that's for sure [25-Dec-24 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: neon the myth the legend that executed that [25-Dec-24 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: they also dumped a few million worth of AMM and SF into my orders... [25-Dec-24 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: @pbsim thank you [25-Dec-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: someone in another channel was complaining how the markets were a little sleepy on this christmas, so i guess someone decided to spice things up :) [25-Dec-24 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Luckily I just landed a starter ship at Hortus where AMM is 100 ICA. Unluckily, a starter ship at max burn won't get to BEN for 1 day 21 hr. So uh...400 AMM of help is *kind of* on the way [25-Dec-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: even the IRL markets are sleepy around xmas [25-Dec-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Posted a couple of smaller H sell ads on the LM for any new players while the H market on the LM settles down. [25-Dec-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: While the CX settles down. [25-Dec-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thank you legosteve for that [25-Dec-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have 10k units of H arriving at the CX in about 36 hours. it'll be sold at my usual price of 115 [25-Dec-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: thanks zenwhisper for making me extra 20k ,really appreciate that [25-Dec-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: also for bringing back ff price [25-Dec-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: markets looking a little weird? not sure what to do? keep calm and katoa on [25-Dec-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: *badum tsss* [25-Dec-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Ill keep brining my H to the LM here, running out of storage though lol. Would smaller batches on LM help people pick them up? [25-Dec-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I'd get some but not much, like 25-ish. Still low on money. [25-Dec-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: i will buy in next4-5 days [25-Dec-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: got enough till then from cx [25-Dec-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: If you need something small like 25 you can always shoot me a contract [25-Dec-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wouju** joined.* [25-Dec-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LittleCthulhu** joined.* [25-Dec-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb8ca1e4cc6** left.* [25-Dec-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aspleet** joined.* [26-Dec-24 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wouju** left.* [26-Dec-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pandy1000** left.* [26-Dec-24 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sertcan** left.* [26-Dec-24 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sylwics** left.* [26-Dec-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: anybody collecting oxygen here? i would like to buy 100-200 [26-Dec-24 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Sending you a contract for 100 [26-Dec-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have a lot of money lying around and i would like to help the smaller players here on Katoa to establish their base. Write to me if you have concrete plans and need some money. Interest rate will be 3% and loan duration is between 2 and 8 weeks. I support stable and interest loans. [26-Dec-24 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Define "smaller players"? [26-Dec-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: newer players, probably >3 weeks and have plans for new base now [26-Dec-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I would say if you are still struggling for money to fund your expansion plans. I wont pin you down if you have a sound plan. [26-Dec-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: BEST (Benten Economic Support Team) is also still offering 500k CIS grants to new players with only one base. depending on your plans, maybe you could take both and pay off a loan even faster Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― check out #best-information on the UFO discord for more info, and for an FAQ about early expansion options in Benten area 😊 [26-Dec-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: If you need H in differnt quantities then what are avaible on the LM feel free to reach out. [26-Dec-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 22 BBH order at MM on LM. would be nice if somebody can fill :-) [26-Dec-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Li-Di**: fin [26-Dec-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M1s13k** joined.* [26-Dec-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: ive been a single baser this entire time. is this.. OKAY? [26-Dec-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: I'm super tempted to stop producing stuff and going back to being the free little trader that simply busses things around [26-Dec-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I dropped down to 1 base and I'm loving it [26-Dec-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: just trading and stuff [26-Dec-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: that base liquidation must have felt like dropping the world off your back lol [26-Dec-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Down from how many? [26-Dec-24 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I was running 16 back in the days. Now it's 10 and thia decrease also brought back a lot of fun in the game. [26-Dec-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ParryH** left.* [26-Dec-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I had 14 at the peak of it. and yeah, it's... nice πŸ˜… I'll build back up some day, but not for a while [26-Dec-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: So, CptColeslau, does the list of bases you have take time to disappear from your player info screen. It says you have 8 bases. [26-Dec-24 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm not asking to put you on the spot - just learning something new. [26-Dec-24 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: anyone on planet sell/make fuel? [26-Dec-24 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of people make and sell fuel here on katoa [26-Dec-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (including myself) [26-Dec-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I've got CMs dropped on a lot of planets just for storage. holding mine and other people's stockpiles in convenient locations. Β―\_(ツ)_/Β― Katoa is my only real production base at the moment though [26-Dec-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Cpt is what we like to call a "Professional Hoarder" [27-Dec-24 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bac0id** left.* [27-Dec-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc7d53d48ab** left.* [27-Dec-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Grays_Anatomy** left.* [27-Dec-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***goliar** joined.* [27-Dec-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb2dcf09efb** left.* [27-Dec-24 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi there, do any of you new players on katoa need some FE, and have an idle ship? i can sell you 63 units (enough to fill a starter ship) for 500 CIS per unit, but you have to go pick it up at Giedi Prime [27-Dec-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I see. Quite a good strategy. [27-Dec-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Do I count as a new player @eminence? [27-Dec-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm joking. [27-Dec-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you are most definietly not a new player :) but if you want to buy some FE, i can also give you a deal [27-Dec-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I can always use more iron if you're offering [27-Dec-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: If I count as new still [27-Dec-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: In other news, all the Ammonia I brought in from Hortus sold in a single order so RIP to the prices [27-Dec-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, you're new enough! i generally use 90 days as the approximate cutoff (but even that is fuzzy sometimes) [27-Dec-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Great, thanks. Shall I send a contract? [27-Dec-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, please do [27-Dec-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also about about 10k units of H back on the market. let's see how long this will last :) [27-Dec-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm good on FE. That stuff is a pain in the ass to haul around tho. [27-Dec-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure is [27-Dec-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've got enough FE available for 2 or 3 more people to grab some via the above offer [27-Dec-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And STL production eats so much O it's tough to keep up. Kinda blew my mind that the price of FE caught up with the price of AL on the BEN CX. Didn't check elsewhere. [27-Dec-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Used to be FE was in the high 400s [27-Dec-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klapaucius** deleted this message.* [27-Dec-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: anybody got some DCS.CI1 to sell? [27-Dec-24 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gods_Machine** left.* [27-Dec-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: what planets should i expand to? [27-Dec-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: depends on what you want to do [27-Dec-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there are some ideas here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [27-Dec-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Come to Yannick! [27-Dec-24 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrenana** joined.* [27-Dec-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3924abd153** left.* [27-Dec-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfcd743df91** left.* [27-Dec-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arcadiann** left.* [27-Dec-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Anyone got any tips on how to get to technicians? [27-Dec-24 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: on katoa at the moment, there's a fair bit of technician unemployment. when you expand a base so that it requires new workers, you'll get some percentage of currently available workers, and then next population report cycle (happens once every 1 week), you'll get the rest of your workers if they're available [27-Dec-24 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so the short answer is: just wait about 4 days [28-Dec-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: uhm guys, does katoa has elliptical orbit? it's getting closer to THE SUN [28-Dec-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Not like getting them but like What industry using technicians on katoa is best suited to turn a profit without too much planning, thus far ive really just been winging it with most of my things and im unsure if techs are worth it to expand into for me :D [28-Dec-24 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alfred.sjodin1** left.* [28-Dec-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mich3020**: Hi, I am new here. I am trying to construct manufacturing facilities and the Build button is not highlighted so I can't construct a BMP or PP1 facility. What to do? [28-Dec-24 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: You dont have the building Materials in the Base inventory, maybe they are in your ship. If Not you have to buy the Material and Bring them to your base [28-Dec-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: Anyone wanna sell me 2 Basic Hull Plate (BHP) @ 4k? parked at Katoa and my repair ticker decided i need more lol [28-Dec-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***davidwegener9** joined.* [28-Dec-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @pbsim sure, send me a contract [28-Dec-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: i cant lol, basic till i get back from vacation. im on a hunting trip :P [28-Dec-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I just got pro two days ago. I'll try to send you one :-D [28-Dec-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: ugh, I'm trying to create a contract draft. Filled out the preamble. Set up the conditions. Picked the recipient. However, the SEND button remains ghosted out. [28-Dec-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: There are a whole bunch of save buttons and you have to press them all for whatever reason. [28-Dec-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @pbsim I gave up and put it up at the local market instead. [28-Dec-24 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: The template part of the contract draft says I have illegal arguments. Not sure why. I'll try again some other time. Using the LM instead for this one. [28-Dec-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: okay, I think I figured out the contract. The save buttons have to be clicked in order from top to bottom. I sent the contract to @pbsim and deleted the LM ad again. [28-Dec-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7d93d2bdf7** left.* [28-Dec-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GreySapAlt** left.* [28-Dec-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neodymium144** joined.* [28-Dec-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CousinEddie**: Wow AMM went on a run huh? [28-Dec-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: AMM.CI1 [28-Dec-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RoronoaDroagon**: Buying 11 MCG at premium price, contract out [28-Dec-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terransalls** joined.* [28-Dec-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: AMM was waaaay underpriced before, and hardly profitable if extracted from Biogenesis. [28-Dec-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: This is a better price for anyone extracting there [28-Dec-24 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: it was pushed low by someone clever tapping the only liquid AMM planet and shipping it all the way here from out towards ARC I think [28-Dec-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user095420cc50** left.* [28-Dec-24 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5e4b8a74c1** left.* [28-Dec-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userab84095788** left.* [29-Dec-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neodymium144** deleted this message.* [29-Dec-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Posted a small FF ad if anyone has some to spare [29-Dec-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***totti1610** left.* [29-Dec-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TitanoMachxia** joined.* [29-Dec-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zoidburger** left.* [29-Dec-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: PE looks more stabilized now, got another load coming in about 2 days, give or take [29-Dec-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: /salute [29-Dec-24 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stars711** joined.* [29-Dec-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stars711** left.* [29-Dec-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userec79a6b0cb** left.* [29-Dec-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user84c209df6a** left.* [29-Dec-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phoiboss88** joined.* [29-Dec-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Phoiboss88**: o7 [29-Dec-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vanguarder** left.* [29-Dec-24 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome to katoa [30-Dec-24 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackdog007** joined.* [30-Dec-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Anyone have Galerite available? I need just a tiny batch of 10 right now, failed with prioritizing contract over refining, don't want my refinery to stop before it gets extracted. [30-Dec-24 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Doogle94**: @evadinglife Can sort you out with 10 GAL [30-Dec-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Aye, perfect, monies been sent. [30-Dec-24 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Doogle94**: Cheers, sent! [30-Dec-24 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***protocol3** left.* [30-Dec-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraeb3699c8a** left.* [30-Dec-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sishibo** left.* [30-Dec-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***big_cheese** joined.* [30-Dec-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TeriyakiChicken** joined.* [30-Dec-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hat4keK** left.* [30-Dec-24 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wdddddddqw** left.* [31-Dec-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [31-Dec-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nocalose** joined.* [31-Dec-24 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mkrussell411** left.* [31-Dec-24 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FloppyPancakes** joined.* [31-Dec-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***privvy-salesman** left.* [31-Dec-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfe9e5bbd26** left.* [31-Dec-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hazelnut_555** left.* [31-Dec-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SteelPhoenix** joined.* [31-Dec-24 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BezirganbasiMoiz** left.* [01-Jan-25 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JesusChrist** left.* [01-Jan-25 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordakai** joined.* [02-Jan-25 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hari_Seldon** left.* [02-Jan-25 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sundragon** joined.* [02-Jan-25 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrTooke** joined.* [02-Jan-25 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I'm looking to finally upgrade my starter ships. Will take advice on what to get. I have about 1M to spend (for now). Since there's a shipyard on Yannick in this system I was hoping that someone might be selling upgrade kits/packages locally? It's my understanding that the parts are better bought directly than via the CX? [02-Jan-25 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Check the UFO discord under deals for ship makers. If you were under 160d i would of suggested Schaitr's newbie deal, but your account is too old for him to consider [02-Jan-25 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 3k/1k ships are cheaper than 2k/2k ships because it does not require a CQL, but its usually advised only if you regualrly ship stuff that has a t:m^3 ratio above 2:1 [02-Jan-25 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Regardless, 1M will probably be too low for either of these options [02-Jan-25 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: what kind of cost should I be expecting? [02-Jan-25 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n3IuCfAuEOFcHc18Fw-9CeGJADU01IKZqwsdMdEvmlM/edit?gid=0#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n3IuCfAuEOFcHc18Fw-9CeGJADU01IKZqwsdMdEvmlM/edit?gid=0 Customer order list https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HY50rYDHbLGR3G5tLSX2mwzs2sUY8Y0D91xQk1FDmTM/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyKVdA9PjQrUPgar3bwYIsiX_-dZW14YIGBFgCU-b1UGvZNYzd6ZfJPObtS3yaEOYEQhEDKdEx5xFCl-0FaEaLxJcLO_V_M2LWFDRQmb0gVeO0rpqDkT%3Dw1200-h630-p [02-Jan-25 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: This is one provider's ongoing queue and price chart [02-Jan-25 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Small correction on my part, their upgrades from starter ship to WCB (the 3k/1k I was talking about) is just under 1M [02-Jan-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: https://discord.gg/QXkZdexKC5 [02-Jan-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That's the link to the UFO discord, btw [02-Jan-25 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: is the 3k/1k the WCB upgrade? (I'm merely guessing at the acronyms) [02-Jan-25 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: y [02-Jan-25 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: okay many thanks, I'll take a stab at it. Step 1) Register on discord ... [02-Jan-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Twi5t3dxF4t3** left.* [02-Jan-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8eca89b7c5** left.* [02-Jan-25 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb4006f7f50** left.* [02-Jan-25 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2844d1c4a4** left.* [02-Jan-25 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tauni_Coloo** joined.* [02-Jan-25 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I would still reach out to Schaitr, he may still give you the deal, as he gives prority to those under 160. [02-Jan-25 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aspleet** left.* [02-Jan-25 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ame1359** left.* [02-Jan-25 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pomme_de_Terroriste** joined.* [02-Jan-25 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: :3 [02-Jan-25 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: congrats on landing on katoa [03-Jan-25 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: welcome to hell :D [03-Jan-25 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Oh? We finally starting to have enough spaces open up that people can come from the outside instead of having to COLIQ to get in here? Neat [03-Jan-25 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeeeep. [03-Jan-25 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Saw it get down to zero and kept a real close eye on it. I imagine I won't be the only one though. [03-Jan-25 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Not after I post it up over a couple discords, no. I'm sure there are plenty who would like a Manufacturing base right next to a CX [03-Jan-25 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cicr233** joined.* [03-Jan-25 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. Katoa is an amazing planet. [03-Jan-25 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Although I suspect the numbers will keep going down. Look at what happened to Deimos. [03-Jan-25 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: 31 spots open now. [03-Jan-25 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I think anyone who wants a base on Katoa will get one eventually in the next few weeks. [03-Jan-25 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah well the reason Deimos has gone down is because ANT is stinky and no one like it. Obviously [03-Jan-25 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mean while, we are the BEST out there [03-Jan-25 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Noice!! [03-Jan-25 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm glad BEST is catching on haha [03-Jan-25 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vrakfall** left.* [03-Jan-25 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Meanwhile, Promitor. [03-Jan-25 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf7c772c18a** left.* [03-Jan-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frentic** joined.* [03-Jan-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Annnnd it's gone. [03-Jan-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Good to see you here, Frentic. [03-Jan-25 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Welcome Frentic! [03-Jan-25 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: yesss I'm back [03-Jan-25 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: took a looooong time lol [03-Jan-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, I think I had a base kit staged here for...3 months? [03-Jan-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: First spot popped yesterday and the alert nearly made me jump outta my skin since I'd forgotten about it. [03-Jan-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Now I've just gotta figure out what I'm going to bother making here. [03-Jan-25 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: hahaha im on the same boat [03-Jan-25 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: I'll probably bake ship parts here ;) [03-Jan-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I'm avoiding that industry. Probably just going to crank out some consumables with a short supply chain. [03-Jan-25 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: CIS space is across the universe from my regular digs. [03-Jan-25 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: ah i see, i'm spreaded out too [03-Jan-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: i have bases in all three big regions: CIS, ANT and MOR [03-Jan-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: BEN* [03-Jan-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: get those BMPs fired up! [03-Jan-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I've got all the hot planets at this point, but nearly everything else is HRT for me. [03-Jan-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Montem/Vallis, Deimos/Harmonia, Prox/Katoa, and then everything else is HRT-space. [03-Jan-25 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Actually, any cooperatives looking for a Katoa permit? [03-Jan-25 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hmm, yes maybe [03-Jan-25 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I might be open to participating depending on the details. Mostly plucked the spot as a long-term hedge against some pretty vague plans. [03-Jan-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Are the other planets such a big happy family [03-Jan-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa fam is best fam [03-Jan-25 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: BEST* fam [03-Jan-25 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kubik161** joined.* [03-Jan-25 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M1s13k** left.* [03-Jan-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Corsair420** left.* [03-Jan-25 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***erunamo** joined.* [03-Jan-25 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***recidyweng** left.* [03-Jan-25 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***recidyweng** joined.* [03-Jan-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Hubbies trying to get in refreshing every 2 seconds xD [03-Jan-25 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: @ConstellationExpress haha that's almost a new sport. [03-Jan-25 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I'm laughing at him :) He's been doing it for awhile.. [03-Jan-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Do you actually need to refresh for it to change or does it do it automatically? [03-Jan-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: It's automatic. [03-Jan-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Ha I'm not going to tell him.. He can find out when he gets into chat! [03-Jan-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Set up a script to monitor the part of the window that displays the number of plots and play a sound to alert whenever it changes. [03-Jan-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Or I guess you could put in a bit more effort and just have it start the base when it detects that it can, but I was too lazy for that. [03-Jan-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Then you get into questionable morals and technically breaking the rules of prun [03-Jan-25 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I'd have to go over the EULA in detail, but I'd be surprised if it violated it. Otherwise a number of the tools in use would. [03-Jan-25 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I can see the moral argument though. Leaving it running to snag a spot when you aren't even around to react is a bit much. [03-Jan-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: @Pomme_de_Terroriste automating actions with scripts is forbidden so, better not :P [03-Jan-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: but monitoring is permitted. [03-Jan-25 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: the sound idea is very good btw. [03-Jan-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I guess there must be some wording in there around triggering or something, then. Otherwise action packs and whatnot wouldn't fly. [03-Jan-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, that's how I sniped it. [03-Jan-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Didn't break the rules by virtue of being too lazy to want to futz about with the edge cases and fiddling required to script it to fit the way I was monitoring, not when I could just detect a change in a section of screen and play a .wav. [03-Jan-25 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: i believe the closest to automation we can have legally is something like XIT ACTIONS [03-Jan-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Guess there's probably some bit about automatic triggers that perform an action then, which seems a pretty reasonable place to draw the line for that reason. [03-Jan-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Otherwise we'd have people running market manipulation bots. [03-Jan-25 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Eh, maybe I'll go check the EULA to make sure that alerting script doesn't run afoul of it, if ever I repurpose it or use it again. [03-Jan-25 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: i think you're good o7 [03-Jan-25 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: LM ads up buying GAL at 100/u [03-Jan-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrdoctor** left.* [03-Jan-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dlrow** joined.* [03-Jan-25 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dlrow**: Yay finally able squeeze in >.< [03-Jan-25 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: My guess is playing a sound is fine, but automation of playing the game is not. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at the fine print but this was something I had originally planned and quickly got shut down. [03-Jan-25 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Drakar** joined.* [03-Jan-25 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: Hey @Dlrow welcome [03-Jan-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dlrow**: Thanks [03-Jan-25 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Murdermaster115** joined.* [03-Jan-25 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: section 5.3 if anyone wants to read it for themselves https://simulogics.games/terms/ {Embed} https://simulogics.games/terms/ simulogics GmbH General Terms and Conditions Expert games [03-Jan-25 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Ouch. That's so broad that I don't see how existing tools fail to run afoul of it, unless they got explicit permission. [03-Jan-25 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: FIO and prunplanner have explicit permission [03-Jan-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Not just them, PMMG/RPRUN would both get hit. [03-Jan-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think those are also allowed. i think there's a note in the forums about it [03-Jan-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but i don't have a link to that on hand [03-Jan-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Well, either way, hard to argue that a script that just makes a sound wouldn't still run afoul of it, so I clearly violated the rules there. [03-Jan-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Guess I'll go get in the back of the line. Catch you folks again when I do it legit. [03-Jan-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pomme_de_Terroriste** left.* [03-Jan-25 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: wait what. you didn't have to leave! [03-Jan-25 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I was gonna say nah stay but to late.. πŸ˜… [03-Jan-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plum_Duff** joined.* [03-Jan-25 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: I mean, if I use Google sheets to number crunch, doesn’t that give me an advantage over someone that doesn’t? [04-Jan-25 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, but that's not really what they mean [04-Jan-25 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Dang, he really whole left. They really don't want to break ToS [04-Jan-25 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: PrUn is supposed to be a game played between humans, and if you program a bot to play for you, that runs counter to what the game is all about [04-Jan-25 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so i think just use common sense. (to be clear, i am not a dev, and i don't speak for the devs) [04-Jan-25 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Common sense is not all that common now days, in fairness [04-Jan-25 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: But also in fairness, i would of considered what they did with the noise alarm as equivalent to the in game notifications that get pushed to email, which is completely fair and allowed [04-Jan-25 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It made no "action" within the game, just made a game outside the game that, while it affected a players performance positively and might be said that they would not of been as effective without it, did not directly act on the game in an autonomous sense [04-Jan-25 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere7252bfeef** left.* [04-Jan-25 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: ayo, oxygen is damn attractive right now οΌˆοΏ£οΈΆοΏ£οΌ‰β†— [04-Jan-25 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dlrow**: Can anyone spare some food and water? Just need enough to last the night... for my workers (LM) [04-Jan-25 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I put 3 shipping contracts up on the BEN LM, would be much appreciated for someone to get [04-Jan-25 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: BEN > Katoa [04-Jan-25 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Much appreciated @Lemonkey [04-Jan-25 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: My workforce will not go hungry because of you πŸ’™ [04-Jan-25 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user34762cef51** left.* [04-Jan-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: Have anyone a shipping Contract for Katao - Benten Station ? i have 350t/450 M3 open. [04-Jan-25 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spacebar** deleted this message.* [04-Jan-25 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebar**: Sure [04-Jan-25 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VanWry** joined.* [04-Jan-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I listed a 150/30 shipping contract on the LM. [04-Jan-25 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: loving this proximity. i get to do multiple things a day:) [04-Jan-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: i really oughta do the maths so i can build a proper orbit calendar,..... unless someone else already has? [04-Jan-25 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: the short answer is that Katoa has about a 60 day orbital period [04-Jan-25 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4287b75a3** left.* [04-Jan-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I wasn't thinking when I wrote this, what I meant is that Katoa and Benten Station sync up every 60 days or so [04-Jan-25 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrownPrinceII** joined.* [04-Jan-25 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***InterGalacticWolf** left.* [04-Jan-25 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: anyone want to buy some GAL from me? my inventory is full and i need more space 😦 check the LM [04-Jan-25 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thx! [04-Jan-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 🫑 [04-Jan-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'll buy some to give you some space. [04-Jan-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: oops. I should have read the LM better. [04-Jan-25 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: did the LM do the thing where it will show you expired ads? [04-Jan-25 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: No. I saw posts in the LM and I thought they were yours but they were buy posts. Silly me. [04-Jan-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I only bought 2 and the price was okay. No big deal. [04-Jan-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Sold, not bought. LOL. [04-Jan-25 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I almost did the same thing earlier! [04-Jan-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh yeah, i general i do that all the time [04-Jan-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the ad will say "buying FOO" and my peanut brain will be like oh yeah, i do want to buy that *click* [04-Jan-25 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You FOOled me on thinking that was an actual mat [04-Jan-25 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Obviously not a programmer @atlantisrising169. [04-Jan-25 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Do all of you know that you can do math in the Quantity field? For instance when you buy fuel to fill up - "=1500-235" 1265 units of fuel. [05-Jan-25 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ollah420** joined.* [05-Jan-25 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I once was, actually. FOO is proto construct in OOP, of sorts. Im just used to seeing letters in all caps here and either knowing the mat/bui or being able to look it up [05-Jan-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Selling 69 BAR [05-Jan-25 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pankakke** joined.* [05-Jan-25 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrenana** left.* [05-Jan-25 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naszghul** joined.* [05-Jan-25 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spotless** left.* [05-Jan-25 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc645d3a9ab** left.* [05-Jan-25 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: Has anyone a Transport Contract for Katoa - Benten. i have 2x 140/140 open. Start 16:00. eta 9:00. Price 1500 each. ? [05-Jan-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: There are a bunch of slightly bigger ones on the LM [05-Jan-25 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***davidwegener9** left.* [05-Jan-25 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pomme_de_Terroriste** joined.* [05-Jan-25 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Annnd I'm back. [05-Jan-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: Talk about hacks and cheats xD I just watched hubby hit the build base within a second of a spot opening. He is livid xDDDDD [05-Jan-25 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: i have seen. i has take 2 of them. and so i have 140t open^^ [05-Jan-25 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Wahahaha. [05-Jan-25 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, I was sitting here doing some resupply shipping with the base build window open and saw it tick over. [05-Jan-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol welcome back [05-Jan-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, figured I'd get it soon enough. Benefit of working from home and being in the middle of a lot of admin stuff for the start of the year. [05-Jan-25 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: gg [05-Jan-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: who needs to build a robot to stare at the number of open katoa plots when you can just do it yourself :D [05-Jan-25 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Advantage of being twitchy and having multiple monitors. [05-Jan-25 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I miss multiple screens :"( [05-Jan-25 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***katarosai1** joined.* [05-Jan-25 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stranger200** joined.* [05-Jan-25 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Don't worry guys. I have a feeling everyone's going to have their turn. [05-Jan-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Getting a plot on Katoa that is. [05-Jan-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: It's a revolving door. About once or twice a year it finally gets to 0 and a select few get in. We had a good stretch this year though! It's been about a year since I seen plots open! [05-Jan-25 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. When I joined like 7-8 months ago, Katoa had like +160 or something like that. [05-Jan-25 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Never thought it would come down to zero [05-Jan-25 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: There was a massive boom about 9-12 months ago we seen almost everywhere boom in population. Quite a few stuck around but recently we started seeing the idle accounts getting dropped. You came in not long after that hit! I remember you joining lol [05-Jan-25 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No shit haha [05-Jan-25 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ah you're gov of RC-040d [05-Jan-25 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Underrated planet imo. [05-Jan-25 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i might end up there for the BRM [05-Jan-25 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: I used to be just a ghost governor for KAWA before the big update came out. [05-Jan-25 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: we still have a handful up on a few of the planets in RC-040. [05-Jan-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. The BRM tap is phenomenal. And comes with the added bonus of having BOR as well. [05-Jan-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I setup some EXTs and a bunch of CHPs to do miscellaneous chemistry stuff. NAB, SOI, REA, IND, LCR, MED. [05-Jan-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: hi i have two unused ships from ben cx going to katoa, total of 1kt storage space, anybody want to move products? LMK! [05-Jan-25 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Sending a contract [05-Jan-25 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: hey! the cargo is reduced to a total of 920t now! [05-Jan-25 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: if thats cool [05-Jan-25 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Should be fine [05-Jan-25 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: alright! [05-Jan-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: 884.8t now [05-Jan-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: thanks [05-Jan-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: yup o7 [05-Jan-25 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: Hi! willing to ship around 880t worth of cargo from BEN CX to KATOA split into two ships LMK! [05-Jan-25 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mfgaming** deleted this message.* [05-Jan-25 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: 2 cis/t ! [05-Jan-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Rc-040d is great! πŸ˜‰ [05-Jan-25 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: truth. my old base they're put me at the top of 3 (almost 4) leaderboards processing BRM, lol. good stuff [06-Jan-25 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neuko-1** joined.* [06-Jan-25 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Terrol** joined.* [06-Jan-25 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: as a basic [06-Jan-25 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: player,can i post ad on lm [06-Jan-25 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: only shipping ads. for buy/sell ads, you can only accept [06-Jan-25 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user04293e52eb** left.* [06-Jan-25 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: And ypu cant post on planrt LM, only CX LM's [06-Jan-25 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terransalls** left.* [06-Jan-25 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: thats rough, i guess ican always type it here [06-Jan-25 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wasn't aware of that restriction. you can get around it by shipping everything to a CX first, but that's annoying [06-Jan-25 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: And doubles your shipping cost [06-Jan-25 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **erunamo**: Does one of the endpoints have to ben the CX you are posting the shipping ad on? Or can you ship from Katoa to Umbra (for example) with an ad on BEN CX? [06-Jan-25 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I think you can, but the odds of someone grabbing it are lower [06-Jan-25 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, i think the people who are offering shipping services mostly look at the CX (though there are tools out there that can look wider) [06-Jan-25 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: One of the endpoints has to be the LM you are posting on. So if it is planet to planet, it can not be on the CX LM. [06-Jan-25 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: Have anyone a Transport contract for Katoa - Benten. 500/500 eta 10:00 [06-Jan-25 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: ? [07-Jan-25 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackdog007** left.* [07-Jan-25 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Abundance** left.* [07-Jan-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have lots of DW on Katoa and also some ads on the LM. It is less than on the CX however the ads don't seem to be cheap enough. What price are you looking for? [07-Jan-25 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's a good price, i'll buy from LM when i need some [07-Jan-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***big_cheese** left.* [07-Jan-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AriesNation** joined.* [07-Jan-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AriesNation**: YES FINALLY!!! [07-Jan-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AriesNation**: 5 days of staring at the screen has paid off!! lol [07-Jan-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Cheap enough for me Nicster. [07-Jan-25 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Nice to see your name around again. [07-Jan-25 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Welcome to Katoa Ariesnation. [07-Jan-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AriesNation**: Thank ya thank ya :) Finally glad to be here. I passed last year when there were openings. I immediately regretted it [07-Jan-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Congrats! [07-Jan-25 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome! [07-Jan-25 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I am glad to be back @Coldfire [07-Jan-25 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: @Foefighter, I can take those Mor -> Katoa shipments but I'll need to play the deadline and not pickup until tomorrow morning. Ship is alread en route to Moria (14 hours) but it needs to stop at Cortez before getting back to Katoa. [07-Jan-25 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: So I'm looking at Thursday morning at the earliest [07-Jan-25 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ConstellationExpress**: 1 day deadline for such a small payment you'll be hard to find someone else willing to grab it, so completely up to you. I can take them now or you can wait out for someone else [07-Jan-25 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***APersoningg** joined.* [07-Jan-25 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Northin** joined.* [07-Jan-25 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirup** joined.* [08-Jan-25 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: In what quantities would you like to buy H on Katoa LM. I posted 500 and 200 packages. Is that small enough for the newer players? [08-Jan-25 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: 200 is perfect for me. i think this Quantities is good [08-Jan-25 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: anybody who makes LDI.CI1 around here? [08-Jan-25 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i made a tiny amount for my own use. do you need some? [08-Jan-25 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have some. How many do you need? [08-Jan-25 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I usually buy 100, never have enough money for 200. [08-Jan-25 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TeriyakiChicken** left.* [08-Jan-25 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FloppyPancakes** left.* [08-Jan-25 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd412f0fcf3** left.* [08-Jan-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nine.One** joined.* [09-Jan-25 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBlackDaniels** joined.* [09-Jan-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: shipping contracts on lm cb-282d [09-Jan-25 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LBC** left.* [09-Jan-25 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: anyone a shipping contract for Katoa - Benten i have 430/430 free. ? [09-Jan-25 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalico** joined.* [09-Jan-25 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat_Industries** joined.* [09-Jan-25 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @Dengetorix Where is the ship going? [09-Jan-25 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: someone wanna dump there (upto) 400t inventory from katoa to benten station? [09-Jan-25 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Is anyone on planet available to sell 10 BSE? [09-Jan-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Verus** joined.* [09-Jan-25 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: someone is selling on the LM for you [09-Jan-25 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: yeah, just posted 10 [09-Jan-25 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also i didn't realize that BSE supply had reached MM prices [09-Jan-25 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: @eminence32 @scorpium i was looking for a supplier or something like that. I need around 200 a month of LDI and the market is usually empty [09-Jan-25 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: 200 a week* [09-Jan-25 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I don't have any LDI at the moment but I can make then for you. Bid price at the Benton CX (600/u at the moment). [09-Jan-25 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't make that much LDI, but now that i know there's a bit of a market for it, i'll start to produce some [09-Jan-25 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Perhaps we can split or you do it all. I need to make othe things as well on those CLR and I have no room for expansion. [09-Jan-25 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am still working out what I can produce currently. [09-Jan-25 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: if any of you is interested you got a client. [09-Jan-25 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: As I said in my DM. I am making some now. [09-Jan-25 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I will put up a contract for the first 18 later in the day. [09-Jan-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: @Klapaucius Like Eminence32 I don't make a lot either. I do have 200 in my warehouse if you want to send me a contract for them. I wouldn't be able to do 200 a week! [09-Jan-25 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user638a534ee8** left.* [09-Jan-25 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can meet Klapaucius' requirements but I don't mind sharing. I will easily sell any that he does not take. [09-Jan-25 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VanWry** left.* [09-Jan-25 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KZ_Kawasaki**: I look for things here to make us go. [09-Jan-25 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDarkslyder** joined.* [09-Jan-25 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3d62a0d40f** left.* [10-Jan-25 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***M27A11** joined.* [10-Jan-25 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sychris9** joined.* [10-Jan-25 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: just started the game is there anything that i can do to just waste time or literaly just wait 5h for a product to finish? [10-Jan-25 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: you could take a few shipping contracts on the local market to the nearest commodity exchange [10-Jan-25 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: then buy RAT, DW, material inputs, and construction materials to bring back [10-Jan-25 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: so im looking and i think i see how to do the shipping contracts how so i see remote pricing and availibility of goods of the places i can look at around my planet the only thon i see for sale is H [10-Jan-25 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: CXL [10-Jan-25 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: or go to Trading in the topbar menu [10-Jan-25 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: well poop i didnt see the dropdown on that page thanks [10-Jan-25 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: ok that should give me some number to stair at for a few hours [10-Jan-25 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: thankyou [10-Jan-25 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yessss, numberssssss, they want youuuuuuu [10-Jan-25 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: i know right. ^^ [10-Jan-25 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: hmm where do i find my rating? all the shipping ads state they need pending or better... [10-Jan-25 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: nvm im currently at u [10-Jan-25 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if i recall correctly, players with a "free" license are always U (unrated) [10-Jan-25 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: ... meaning i cant trade with other players than... ok [10-Jan-25 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, it's a bit of a bummer that the game that's all about trading with other players doesn't let you trade with other players unless you buy a license [10-Jan-25 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but every year or so there are good discounts offered. my recommendation to all new players is: play for free for as long as you need to get a sense if this game is something you enjoy [10-Jan-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: so i got the game on steam and i dont see a license availible where do i buy? [10-Jan-25 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: nvm i found [10-Jan-25 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: at the top-right of the screen, do you see a button that says "LIC" ? [10-Jan-25 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: o nice 8 USD a month is a really low price for an mmo thats not bad [10-Jan-25 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: indeed, i think it's a reasonable price [10-Jan-25 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: keep in mind you can still trade with other players on the CX even if you don't have a license [10-Jan-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: other things to do: at some point, the castille-ito director of "whatever" will offer contracts you can take. Not all of them are profitable though. [10-Jan-25 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Also, in the beginning to you can do trading arbitrage between different CXs, buying low at one and selling high at another and vice versa. [10-Jan-25 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: for example, buying CAF at ANT and selling it at BEN, then buying SF there and returning it to ANT [10-Jan-25 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: ok cool i went ahead and got the pro, i've played over an hour so cheeper than the movies already >< [10-Jan-25 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this is true isherwood, but the starter ships don't make this easy [10-Jan-25 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: heh, I'm 200+ days old and only now upgrading my first ship. It can be done, but I imagine it's even better with a big ship [10-Jan-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: so i picked to start as a manu can i still farm C if i get the stuff set up, and my selection just determionines startup package, or lock you out of stuffs? [10-Jan-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just determines your starter package [10-Jan-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and the planet that you land on [10-Jan-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: sweet ^^ ok [10-Jan-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you may be interested in this guide that we wrote up for new players on katoa: [10-Jan-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [10-Jan-25 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: alright so im just checking i got this right. i just bought a 100 units H from a user, this started a contract i than had to open and fufill the payment on. now i await the other user to package the items(or not) before i can receve them. correct? [10-Jan-25 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: yes [10-Jan-25 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sychris9**: o sweet ty [10-Jan-25 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: sigh, LM ad up for 200 FF if anyone has some [10-Jan-25 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: doh wrong planet lol [10-Jan-25 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol i was looking at the LM and was wondering if maybe someone fullfilled it in under 30 seconds. possible on katoa! [10-Jan-25 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: On Proxion - I got it. [10-Jan-25 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: yeah i actually have fuel on kat haha [10-Jan-25 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dannsu** joined.* [10-Jan-25 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vreemdevince** left.* [10-Jan-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: Hello All [10-Jan-25 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘‹ [10-Jan-25 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: How many players are on the game now? [10-Jan-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 350 connected as this very moment, but probably 10x that who have active accounts [10-Jan-25 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: Awesome, yea it could be tough getting started for those that may be impatient lol took me a few tries to finally get going here [10-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: glad to have you here at katoa [10-Jan-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: Thanks, great game [10-Jan-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: β™₯ [10-Jan-25 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: 351 [10-Jan-25 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: I started and stopped the tutorial 3 times. Luckily the third time the game clicked and now I'm stuck here [10-Jan-25 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: 4 of my buildings are sitting idle right now because I suck at this game :-) [10-Jan-25 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: happens :) [10-Jan-25 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i once logged in to find 12 polymer plants had gone idle [10-Jan-25 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: because you, say, ordered 20 of something instead of 200 [10-Jan-25 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: not that something like that happened to me or anything [10-Jan-25 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what are you missing for your 4 buildings, maybe i can spot you [10-Jan-25 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa fam is BEST fam, so always reach out if there's anything we can help with [10-Jan-25 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: resupply ship landed so I'm back online :P [10-Jan-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Impregn8**: On the free license this game has sadly now officially dried up for me. There is only so much you can do before it all becomes to expensive and its literally a feed the people game. 10 months - twas fun but dropping this now - its become a grind. [10-Jan-25 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorry to hear that. if you'd like to brainstorm about other things to try to keep the game fun, let us know [10-Jan-25 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: otherwise, thanks for playing with us! [10-Jan-25 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: I will do the Pro liscense monthly if I get the game figured out abit more [10-Jan-25 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: 9 bucks a month,,, I spend more than that on sodas lol [10-Jan-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordakai** left.* [10-Jan-25 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***x-envy** joined.* [10-Jan-25 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M27A1** joined.* [10-Jan-25 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user686a9d9496** left.* [11-Jan-25 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***d093w1z** left.* [11-Jan-25 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neuko-1** left.* [11-Jan-25 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: In my case, the experience (and profit) took a significant turn for the better when I used https://pct.fnar.net/fio/index.html to make a spreadsheet to do real-time analysis. I probably spend more time in that spreadsheet than I do in the game itself now. The next barrier to fun was keeping everything supplied with my 2 starterships. I sprung for 1 month of PRO to upgrade them. This will run out in 2 weeks and I'll revert to BASIC. My (fun) plan is to change my lines away from being intensive in inputs and PIOs. {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/fio/index.html FIO - PrUn Community Derived Information Using CSV Endpoints In Google Sheets All CSV endpoints supported can be found here. Using Public Data Endpoints Public data is data that isn’t user data. To use these, simply fill cell A1 on its own sheet (bottom-left tabs are β€œSheets”) with the following: =IMPORTDATA("https://rest.fnar.net/csv/prices") If you are using a different locale (using... [11-Jan-25 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: In that regard, I wonder what business people have found to be the most "fun"/"not fun". In my case, it's chemistry>food>extraction>refining. [11-Jan-25 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TriggeredTrigz** joined.* [11-Jan-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HanSolo9494** joined.* [11-Jan-25 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: hello! [11-Jan-25 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [11-Jan-25 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: thanku [11-Jan-25 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: i jus started today, like a few mins ago [11-Jan-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: let us know if you have any questions. there's a lot of learn when you're first getting started [11-Jan-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: thanku! ill let u know [11-Jan-25 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: if a contract status says closed, does it mean i didnt complete it inside the deadline? [11-Jan-25 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, a "closed" contract means that both sides have accepted the contract [11-Jan-25 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: ahhh i see [11-Jan-25 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: is there anything that im supposed to do once i complete a contract's requirements? or does it jus mark as complete and i can move on to the next task [11-Jan-25 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: once you complete the requirement, there will be a green "fulfill" button that you need to click [11-Jan-25 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or maybe i should say: once you're able to complete the requirement (like making available some materials, or flying a ship somewhere), you can click the "fulfill" button to complete that part of the contract [11-Jan-25 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: interesting [11-Jan-25 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: it jus says fulfilled [11-Jan-25 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: note that the contract window will also show the things that the other party has to do [11-Jan-25 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if the "party" column lists a name, that means someone else has to meet the condition on that line [11-Jan-25 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if the [11-Jan-25 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if the "party" column is blank, that means you have to meet the condition and then press the "fulfill" button [11-Jan-25 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TriggeredTrigz**: ooo i see i see [11-Jan-25 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: Hello All [11-Jan-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: So today is when I get to try and figure out how to purchase resourses and bring them back to my base lol [11-Jan-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: been putting that off as Im assuming it might be difficult lol [11-Jan-25 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Get a ship out to the CX (UV-351 is nearest), buy items at the CX ('CXL' for list of CXs or 'CX CI1' for BEN specifically). Look through what you want, know that bids are what people are willing to buy the product at and Ask is what people are willing to sell it at. I've you figure out what you want and buy it, it should auto- move it to your ship if it's docked (and if you don't have a warehouse already). If you already have a warehouse (or want one) you can find it near the top of the cx buffer. They are dirt cheap (in fact, dirt is probably more expensive), so it's always recommended to have 1 if not 2 even for beginners. Anyway, make sure your ship has what it needs before you head back to your base (here) because it can be a long fly back if you forgot something [11-Jan-25 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Worth noting, bring stuff from your base to the cx that you want to sell. If you have pro might be worth looking at the LM here and BEN for shipping orders if you have extra space in your ship. Always remember to check locations/ destinations [11-Jan-25 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Komas33** joined.* [11-Jan-25 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Komas33** left.* [11-Jan-25 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Komas33** joined.* [11-Jan-25 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: when starting off the extra boost from the occasional transport contract on the local market is a godsend since most of the time you are flying with only some of your cargo hold used [11-Jan-25 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: and you are poor enough that you need to sell a few things to buy a few things to keep everything running [11-Jan-25 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: also reduces the impact of fuel costs [11-Jan-25 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yeah, in particular contracts that aren't too close to the 500/500 limit of the starter ships [11-Jan-25 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Akare**: also useful sometimes when people sell stuff local on LM cheaper than CX. you can buy it and haul with your other stuff to CX and resell it a little higher. not a way to make a living long-term, but makes what youre already doing a bit more efficient [11-Jan-25 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercaee9e749b** left.* [12-Jan-25 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDice** joined.* [12-Jan-25 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kubik161** left.* [12-Jan-25 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Majkl097** joined.* [12-Jan-25 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** deleted this message.* [12-Jan-25 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: The local markets on Katoa and Umbra currently have several shipping contracts available for those with idling ships. [12-Jan-25 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: oxygen price on high right now, overvalued? [12-Jan-25 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Under provided, probably just had a supplier slacking or outright quit [12-Jan-25 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: good time for oxygen producers [12-Jan-25 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: not even the faction providing such prices [12-Jan-25 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: not overvalued as much as just being undervalued for a long time. At current prices O production is about as profitably as making and selling SF. [12-Jan-25 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: i have one collector for oxygen and one refinery, a huge chunk of my profit comes from fuel rn [12-Jan-25 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so right now, you could sell your O to buy the REF inputs for an even trade. Whereas historically (past 6 months), it would have been more profitable to just forego the collectors and focus on REFs [12-Jan-25 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: true, i used to make 6k from oxygen,now 9k [12-Jan-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: its actually far better than collecting ammonia here [12-Jan-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yeah, collecting AMM on Katoa is a trap [12-Jan-25 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: true,once i get a gist of this game i will start second base on bio [12-Jan-25 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: might work [12-Jan-25 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: maybe... but definitely compare to just buying AMM on BEN's CX vs making FF instead [12-Jan-25 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: SF on BEN is kinda underpriced too relative to the rest of the galaxy [12-Jan-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: that's normal in areas that produce something [12-Jan-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yup [12-Jan-25 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: why I usually sell my fuels at ANT [12-Jan-25 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Posted 1500 AMM BUY ad on the LM [12-Jan-25 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @ 90 CIS/unit, same as CX rate [12-Jan-25 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fatherandson** left.* [12-Jan-25 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrownPrinceII** left.* [12-Jan-25 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cbnoble** left.* [12-Jan-25 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Can anyone on planet make/provide 6 BSEs? [12-Jan-25 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, can you send a contract or put up an ad on the LM? [12-Jan-25 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tauni_Coloo** left.* [13-Jan-25 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ProGotLegend** joined.* [13-Jan-25 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I am currently setting up a ship pipeline. It will take a bit more time until it is fully operational, but I just wanted to check if there are some people who might like to pre order some ships. My idea is to give first dips for people in the benten area. I aim for really good prices since i am not really in it for the money and will be able to produce a ship every two weeks. Contact me if you are interested [13-Jan-25 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I'm not really in the Benten area in a meaningful way, but out of curiosity what sort of prices are you talking? [13-Jan-25 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MentosSpearmint** joined.* [13-Jan-25 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Im Interested in prices first before interest in pre-ordering :^) [13-Jan-25 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebar**: Iβ€˜m interested in the prices as well [13-Jan-25 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also, would payments in materials be out of the question? Like could at least part be paid in some the materials used to make them, such as metals or even consumables? [13-Jan-25 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i am aiming at selling 3 configs. WCB, VCB and LCB with FSE and QCR [13-Jan-25 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: β‚©ΒΏ [13-Jan-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: rough estimate would be that the ships cost between 5.8 and 6mil [13-Jan-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: depending on the terms i also consider payment in materials [13-Jan-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: and by terms i also mean if they get shipped to the proper bases :-D [13-Jan-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Completely understandable on that part [13-Jan-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: what do you think about the prices, is it in line with other seller? [13-Jan-25 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'd be interested at those rates, but i do not have the funds at this moment, and have other projects to move towards before needing more logistics support (ships). I will defibrillator keep you mind though within 1-3 months though [13-Jan-25 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I will definitely* keep [13-Jan-25 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1n3IuCfAuEOFcHc18Fw-9CeGJADU01IKZqwsdMdEvmlM/htmlview# {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1n3IuCfAuEOFcHc18Fw-9CeGJADU01IKZqwsdMdEvmlM/htmlview Customer order list https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/dsYOyIxTLA06de-8jUodxzGY4nA57qxBr7oSuA-RP4o/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyJiEd6u3juZv4vjrbj5iNH3siDyuUMhHVI2283atVy-o2ziCwHnQbpngk1xM_LXlAmlPO4LAucvCFpiMV71Z6zoKgFXYlLqG7s_gVxE1M20eOo_-Fsc%3Dw1200-h630-p [13-Jan-25 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: This is one ship makers page for listed prices. Check the UFO discord for others to compare prices [13-Jan-25 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: thank you for the resource! [13-Jan-25 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I did build ships in the past, but then the prices were waaaay different :-D. we sold our ships for like 2-3 mil :-D [13-Jan-25 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***saturnpawz** joined.* [13-Jan-25 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol for like the 3rd time, i have brought in HE to katoa, instead of HE3 [13-Jan-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you 10 if you are short. [13-Jan-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nah, i'm ok for now, but thank you [13-Jan-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay. I have some TS that you can have cheap as well. [13-Jan-25 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sundragon** left.* [13-Jan-25 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: Have anyone a shipping Contract for Katoa to Benten Station ? 500/500 free. [13-Jan-25 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I think they're all getting snapped up with the planets so close to each other [13-Jan-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, it is a good time to be shipping to and from benten station [13-Jan-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Is it worth having a construction base on Yannick to support the building up of my other bases? It seems like it might be convenient but the planet is pretty empty, suggesting that other players disagree [13-Jan-25 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm biased because i maintain a construction base to make stuff i need. i think gibson is going to be a slightly better choice than yannick [13-Jan-25 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: though now that i double check COGM, gibon and yannick have nearly identical costs, which surprises me because yannick needs SEA/INS for repairs [13-Jan-25 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: They're fairly cheap materials I suppose, and when you divide the cost by 60 it looks small [13-Jan-25 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I have abase on Gibson, and plan on starting one another one on Yannik in the future. [13-Jan-25 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Just build on both ;p [13-Jan-25 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @MoonTycoon - Yannick was for years undevelped but I am currently dedicated to make it the logical choice for Construction in the Katoa region. I have reduced all taxes to their minimum and provide all of the consumables. I have also done most of the newer upgrades with an upgrade to the Wildlife Park pending. [13-Jan-25 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am currently assisting a new citizen with workers and you are welcome to join us. I honestly cannot understand how that planet sat for so many years. [13-Jan-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I also Govern Giedi Prime, though further along my plan is to govern them the same. [13-Jan-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The governments on both of these planets operate at a loss - that is they are subsidized by the governor and those that wish to help out. [13-Jan-25 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If you wnat to help out on these two planets please only contribute to those things that are currently being provided - OFF, SOI and UTS as well as the CoGC stuff. [13-Jan-25 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: In case you missed it - I am anti-government. But, there some things only a governor can do so we have governors on those planets. [13-Jan-25 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I am participating in two other planets as well. UV-796F and JS-299B. [13-Jan-25 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @AriesNation contributed a great deal to Giedi Prime. [13-Jan-25 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Quick question: If I want to expand and have a base where I produce food and/or agricultural products which planet is the best choice? I found Neo Eden - Nemesis and Daikoku - Proxion as potential planets. [13-Jan-25 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we have a section on this in our katoa guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [13-Jan-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: tl;dr: nemesis and proxion are indeed great choices :) [13-Jan-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Those have been my choices, though I sometimes get frustrated with the trip to Nemesis. But now I have bases in a string back to Katoa. The 'milk run'. [13-Jan-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Oh i had that docs forgot about that a little bit [13-Jan-25 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elphael** joined.* [13-Jan-25 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I should point out that it is fairly easy to make RAT, DW and COF on any planet with some FPs, a CHP and HYFs. Then you just need to bring H2O. [13-Jan-25 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: It is I checked the production lines [13-Jan-25 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: It's just high time I used a permit [13-Jan-25 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: They're burning my hands [13-Jan-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @BlueHeeler Yannick is my next base, and I will be happy to help as necessary/wanted [13-Jan-25 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I will start touching down probably within the next 2-3w [13-Jan-25 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stranger200** left.* [13-Jan-25 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ollah420** left.* [13-Jan-25 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LevelOneHuman** left.* [13-Jan-25 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mckstaber** joined.* [13-Jan-25 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Weeee... local SF prices are moving! [13-Jan-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: woo! [13-Jan-25 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cylade** joined.* [13-Jan-25 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: where do I find Helium at? is there a certain cx for that? [13-Jan-25 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: and hello all [13-Jan-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @atlantisrising169 - that's great. Let me know if you need any help with workers. [13-Jan-25 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @M27A11 helium can be found on most of the CXs, including our local one benten station [14-Jan-25 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **M27A11**: ok thanks [14-Jan-25 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yoshioka** left.* [14-Jan-25 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***10_e24** joined.* [14-Jan-25 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: are there any people here who have a base on biogenesis. I currently have one there but would like to dismantle it because of permits. I am also open to help fund a base there because i need both AMM and N and would like to buy it here directly on Katoa. Please DM if you already have a base or are thinking of building one [14-Jan-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: /me would like to subscribe to this thread [14-Jan-25 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackMolly** joined.* [14-Jan-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I usually ship my AMM and N to either Katoa or station from my Biogen base [14-Jan-25 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Posted a small shipping ad from BEN to Katoa on the BEN LM if anyone is already coming this way. All my ships are busy elsewhere [14-Jan-25 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fabianocruce** joined.* [14-Jan-25 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user558aff78e2** left.* [14-Jan-25 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chanakan5591** joined.* [14-Jan-25 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: just missing 5 BMF and 4 LU for the next UNI upgrade, if anyone can contribute anything just send me the bill :) [14-Jan-25 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, i have 10 LU for you! [14-Jan-25 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they just arrived, uhhh. somewhere. i've been moving stuff around a lot recently, let me find them. i think they're at benten station right now [14-Jan-25 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wrathly** joined.* [14-Jan-25 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yay! [14-Jan-25 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: more good news, I found the 5 BMF forgotten in a dusty box in the corner of my warehouse xD [14-Jan-25 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: \o/ [14-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Guys, what those motion thingies mean? Like, all I see as a noob is that the governor allowed himself to receive a 400k paycheck. [14-Jan-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mfgaming**: Money sent from gov wallet to the governor's company to purchase the planet's infrastructure upkeep [14-Jan-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Oooh, that makes much more sense now [14-Jan-25 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: governments have their own bank accounts, but they don't have any inventories. so when a planet needs upkeep, an individual player (doesn't need to be the governor, but often is) needs to provide the materials [14-Jan-25 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: That's complicated. I'ma go back to my refinery and cook some fuels. [14-Jan-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nothing wrong with a little comfy fuel cooking! [14-Jan-25 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: anyone out there that might be able to give out a 100k loan for around 1 week of payback time with perhaps 10% interest max? [14-Jan-25 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: i kinda went overboard on making Prefab Plants Tier 2 and now i have 11 of them but i kinda cant afford the mats to make them produce stuff XD [14-Jan-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, for sure (i'm sure several people here would be willing to make that loan, or help out with materials) [14-Jan-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but i am unfortunately just logging off for the night [14-Jan-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: have a good nights sleep! [14-Jan-25 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ping me tomorrow if you still need a loan, but there's a good chance someone can offering it before me :) [14-Jan-25 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also there are some standing offers for loans/grants in the UFO discord. do you have a link for that? [14-Jan-25 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: dont think i do, mind sending me the link possibly? [14-Jan-25 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: https://discord.gg/7SSAUu6T [14-Jan-25 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://discord.gg/wQdCdRqw take a look at the castillo-ito-general channel and also best-information and also galactic-deals [14-Jan-25 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: bye for now [14-Jan-25 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: byeee [14-Jan-25 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I can also help with the loan you suggested for now, sending you a draft if you're interested [14-Jan-25 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: just read it over, 49% is a lil much for me but id be willing to do 25% interest since its quite on short notice? [14-Jan-25 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: 49%? Oh, I did it wrong then, was trying to do 7 rather than 10% [14-Jan-25 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: im unsure if im stupid but it lists me like 7installments of 7k and the 100k repayment [14-Jan-25 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Yeah I reversed interval and duration [14-Jan-25 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Yep seems to all check out, pleasure doin business with you :) [14-Jan-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: ill get that cash your way in around a day or two once the 11 plants start pumping out some of thoose precious LSEs :) [14-Jan-25 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Sounds good, when they hit the market I might buy a few [14-Jan-25 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: just made a spreadsheet to check costs and either im putting in wrong numbers or somethings off, with PG and AL to make them id need to sell ar around 8,1k/LSE to turn a profit [14-Jan-25 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: does that seem off price wise? [14-Jan-25 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: It would be above market at BEN. I run a PP2 on Katoa for my own use and when it's not making stuff for me I get the best return making LTA [14-Jan-25 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Ive made LDEs with the previous 4 for a neat Return, but NylonΒ΄s hard to come by theese days thus i have to shift to making something else , lemme run the numbers for LTAs, LBH allready appears for more promising :D [14-Jan-25 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: If your base is going to be on Katoa, investing in some weaving plants that benefit from the planetary Manufacturing bonus would let you make your own Nylon from PG [14-Jan-25 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: I have seen that an its my next expansion plan :D [14-Jan-25 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Currently transitioning from Fuel refining to Prefab creation since my ships capacity was hitting a brick wall when it came to Transporting gas and Fuel [14-Jan-25 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CornTime**: Sooooo i made a spreadsheet! and apparrently LBH are the best thing to turn a profit rn! 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[15-Jan-25 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure. send a contract [15-Jan-25 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: thx, cont sent, hopefully I did it correctly [15-Jan-25 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘ [16-Jan-25 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maglor** joined.* [16-Jan-25 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I have a lot of DW available here. Selling on the LM at CX prices. Can post ads for smaller or larger amounts if needed. [16-Jan-25 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Gosh, DW prices really went up recently [16-Jan-25 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: wait until you see RAT.CI1 prices :) [16-Jan-25 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: tbh, I did start producing my own DW cuz these folks be thirsty [16-Jan-25 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frentic**: o/ [16-Jan-25 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wyv3rn** joined.* [16-Jan-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Oh I saw them [16-Jan-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Too bad I can't have a robot workforce [16-Jan-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Humans... [16-Jan-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Darn them and their capacity to be multifunctioning and ease of reprogramming [16-Jan-25 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I reread the excellent Katoa welcoming guide ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub ) but I did not see any mentioning of electronics bases. Does that just not happen around the Benten region? [16-Jan-25 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, there's very little electronics going on over here [16-Jan-25 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: some weeks/months ago, an idea was floating to try to find a good electronics base in the benten region, but i don't think anything happened with that [16-Jan-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: any reasons/conclusions from that in terms of why not? Electronics seem interesting from an advanced/base perspective, but perhaps there is not enough product demand here? I must admit that the lack of bids on many chemistry products at BEN's CX puzzles me. Perhaps everybody is just self-sufficient. [16-Jan-25 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebar**: If you want electronics somewhat close to Benten you could look at Malahat [16-Jan-25 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Cool! I currently have 4 bases but I figure I'll mostly be a BASIC player, so I'm trying to decide what to expand into next for a 5th and possibly 6th base, since I figure it's going to be hard to manage the logistics for anything beyond that with two ships. Only anecdotal experience though. Hence trying to decide which sector/which planet to go to. [16-Jan-25 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebar**: If you hace a lot of cash (25 mil) you can set up a idc printing base on malahat and make 300k+ a day [16-Jan-25 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Spacebar**: So thats something to consider for a 5th base [16-Jan-25 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah Malahat isn't too bad of a flight for electonics. I think since electronics inputs and outputs are usually so small and managable, there's less priority given to proximity and more to planet workforces. Malahat has a healthy government and high tier workers so it's a good option. Starting one closer would be a lot of work and very expensive [16-Jan-25 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I recently heard about the IDC-printer on the global chat. Certainly a goal to strive for. [16-Jan-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: @allocater has a pretty sweet deal to get you set up making IDC on Malahat. https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1231168997345460286/1231168997345460286 [16-Jan-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I definitily want to focus on bases that only need service every 2-3 weeks. The plan is to avoid self-induced logistical problems from overextending and running out. I think I've been somewhat "traumatized" starting as a fuel refiner :-D [16-Jan-25 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: Allocater's IDC deal is 100% hands free. You receive the building mats and consumables at the warehouse on planet and sell the IDC locally on the LM. You never have to send a ship. [16-Jan-25 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **superbadsounds**: I did it around my 5th permit and it really helped fuel rapid expansion. [16-Jan-25 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: very interesting! [16-Jan-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: my CXPO command always says "loading" instead of actually letting me fill out the order form [16-Jan-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueArmy_101**: any1 know a fix? [16-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: shift+reload? [16-Jan-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luminight** left.* [16-Jan-25 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trikiz** joined.* [16-Jan-25 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I got 2 heavy (by ratio) loads from BEN to Katoa, if anyone got the spare space [16-Jan-25 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Posted on BEN LM [16-Jan-25 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Lovely, not even a full minute. You guys are awesome [16-Jan-25 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: :) [16-Jan-25 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Hey, if anyone of you are on a metallurgist planet, particularly an Iron one, could you poke it's chat and ask for a ramp up in STL? The CX is running scarily close to no supply, and ik I'm not the only buyer there [16-Jan-25 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you got any access to cheap oxygen? [16-Jan-25 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: .. not cheap. I'm guessing that's also in short supply? [16-Jan-25 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: price of oxygen (which is a major component to making steal) is up 50% [16-Jan-25 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah i just looked. It's seems a lot of stuff have been jumping up since November [16-Jan-25 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: DW, RAT, O, I'm sure others [16-Jan-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: I'll sell you oxygen at 115/u if you get it at prox max 400 units if you want [16-Jan-25 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ironically, katoa is one of the better oxygen planets in the benten area [16-Jan-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Huh. Best O tap i can see on mobile is Etherwind [16-Jan-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [16-Jan-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Are there any liquid O taps? I don't have access to PMMG to use the better map to sort by resource states [16-Jan-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, there are some liquid oxygen planets [16-Jan-25 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Neat. Any close? [16-Jan-25 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also also, i would mind dropping my H2O production for O production if i got a slice of cheaper STL in return [16-Jan-25 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: on IZ-911c you can get a RIG to pump out oxygen for the low low cost of 11.25 CIS per unit (which is less than 10% of the current O.CI1 price) [16-Jan-25 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but that system is quite far away [16-Jan-25 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How is 11.25 10% less than 155? [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 10% off 155 is ~140 [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Less than 10% *of* [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: not off [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Wait, i read that wromg, my bad [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah my b [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: F me ig [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Lol [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: XH-807e has liquid oxygen, and it 3 jumps away, but only trace amounts [16-Jan-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: 11 would also be less than 90% of 155 I guess [16-Jan-25 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Whats the cost of running a COL on etherwind, since you got the fancy stuff pulled out [16-Jan-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: with full experts, a little over 22 CIS per unit [16-Jan-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ... so maybe i do have access to cheap(ish) O [16-Jan-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't really have the production capability to mass produce STL beyond what i consume myself. but i'm sure anyone else who wants to get into STL is going to need a nice source of O (in addition of FEO, which i'd personally get from giedi) [16-Jan-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'd build in that direction myself, but i got my heart set on a construction base on Yannick i can't figure out how i want set up still [16-Jan-25 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: metallurgy base on giedi would pair well with a construction base on yannick, in my opinion [16-Jan-25 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: If the works could get passed in that direction though, wouldn't mind swapping over some stuff in Etherwind, I'm currently making more water than i can process [16-Jan-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah but i wanted a chem base on umbra next 😭, or to renovate UV-796f into a FP world so i dont have to travel back and forth for my processing needs (also it would help out those on Proxion UV-796b) [16-Jan-25 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, welcome to the classic problem of having plans for like 6 new bases, but only having the funds/permits for like 1.4 of them [16-Jan-25 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Oh i plan to regularly loan money to expand quickly, i just dont want to use loan money on ship expansions and permits, ie stuff thatvwont directly return [16-Jan-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Currently waiting out another mill to upgrade my second ship to WCB [16-Jan-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: If i was to offer 10 Oxygen for 1 STL, does that sound like a fair trade to anyone familiar with its math? Delivery and pickup included [16-Jan-25 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Or maybe more Oxygen? [16-Jan-25 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: here's my first order analysis of a trade like that: is costs 1 FE and 4 O to make 1 STL. if we did this trade for 10 O, i would have to supply 1 FE myself, and i'll end up with 6 O afterward. on the open market, that 1 FE is going to cost me 800 CIS and in return i'm getting 6 O instead of having to pay 930 for the O [16-Jan-25 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and of course i'd have to pay for worker upkeep and building degredation. so that's probably not enough O for me to take that deal, if i had to buy my FE from the CX [16-Jan-25 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Okay but have you considered if you source FEO > FE yourself? My problem with going higher than like 13Oxy is i can just sell the Oxygen at CX and just buy the STL there too, and that doesnt help either at helpful rates [16-Jan-25 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Especially with the Giedi Prime example, itd be silly to source your FE from CX [16-Jan-25 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Nether the less. Would 12Oxy:1STL push the ddecision anyway? [16-Jan-25 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, a more details analysis would take that into account. it's more favorable to the STL producer in that case. FE can be had for about 475 of so on giedi (a bit less since that price includes buying O from the CX) [16-Jan-25 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i didn't math it very hard myself, since i think i could only afford to dedicte 1 smelter to such a trade (producing only about 8 units of STL per day, and i'm guessing you're looking for a bigger smelter than me) [16-Jan-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe, friends hope much I'll lean on PP3 on my construction base. On Katoa i might push through 100/w if i started to make more PT focused, but idk if i want that [16-Jan-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm off to bed now, chat more tomorrow [16-Jan-25 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 🫑 [17-Jan-25 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTooke**: Hello Katoa settlers. I'm looking for a corporation to join. I'm a new settlement producing fuel and galerite atm. Lemme know if I can be a part of your org! [17-Jan-25 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: join kawa [17-Jan-25 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrTooke**: Sounds good to me! Can someone inv me? Or can I request somewhere [17-Jan-25 01:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: For all those with big plans, i still have money to loan you :). Admitetly i am a bit less liquid now that i am building the ship pipeline but still. Let me know if you need help. [17-Jan-25 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Still 3%? [17-Jan-25 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: If so, pencil me in for interested in a couple mill in a couple weeks. Gotta building up my own dosh first [17-Jan-25 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stumblemore** joined.* [17-Jan-25 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: yes still 3% [17-Jan-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zinzibul2** left.* [17-Jan-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DevDogGames** joined.* [17-Jan-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: again, a lot of shipments to take on lm cb-282d. let me know if the price is too low [17-Jan-25 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jasaun** joined.* [17-Jan-25 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kayinnie** joined.* [17-Jan-25 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dcarper039** joined.* [18-Jan-25 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Who ate all the AL.CI1 ? [18-Jan-25 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I was just getting ready for my move ;-; [18-Jan-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Dang. All the CXs were hit [18-Jan-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Over 30k AL was moved on the 14th. I wonder what whale is splashing around [18-Jan-25 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AleixB** joined.* [18-Jan-25 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **EyangKodok**: lol [18-Jan-25 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user17db1c07ce** left.* [18-Jan-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Not me, but I hve enough to help you out if you are in need, atlantisrising169. [18-Jan-25 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDarkslyder** left.* [18-Jan-25 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I got a bunch of tiny orders from BEN to Katoa on the CX LM [18-Jan-25 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: less than 50t over 5 orders. I _really_ wish the devs would get on multi-item contracts/orders, spent more on ad tax than what the shipper will get >:( [18-Jan-25 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Also Heeler I'll get back to you on that in a bit, I'm about to draft up material costs for the base now [18-Jan-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalico** left.* [18-Jan-25 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: So uh, anyone know where to get PSL around here? Looks like that's _another_ market that's just left empty [18-Jan-25 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've got three 3dprinters here at katoa that make some for myself [18-Jan-25 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Ya got 12 to spare? I'm at your mercy for pricing [18-Jan-25 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol. i only have 11, and i need them for other projects. maybe @ [18-Jan-25 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe @shilerhobbs has some to sell? [18-Jan-25 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: I have 12 here on katoa [18-Jan-25 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: pay what you deem fair and send me a contract [18-Jan-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 3.5k/u sound fair? It seems to be the SMA before things started moving around a a lot [18-Jan-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Sent, thank you again [18-Jan-25 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Again? Well thank you thank you. idk why I said again [18-Jan-25 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: sent [18-Jan-25 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: your welcome [18-Jan-25 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Whoo! Just need to get the rest of it now [18-Jan-25 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: i have everything else for a CM as well if you want [18-Jan-25 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Kinda not really? Someone came forward and offered a loan at 1%, so I plan to do that. Just gathering costs and supplies. The base itself will cost 1.5M when fully built, I make my own consumables and should be good there, I have yet to look into costs of inputs though to get that party started [19-Jan-25 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***x-envy** left.* [19-Jan-25 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TriggeredTrigz** left.* [19-Jan-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DingusThePrivateer** left.* [19-Jan-25 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Can someone sell me 2 PT? I missed my math and am off by a day before my next PT production. I can pay back in double the PT [19-Jan-25 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Or you know, whatever you charge for it [19-Jan-25 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have some PT to sell, just place an LM ad or send a contract [19-Jan-25 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercd95ff3461** left.* [19-Jan-25 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Posted. Sorry, i fell asleep shortly after [19-Jan-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Posted a bit above current ask, 500/u [19-Jan-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: fulfilled [19-Jan-25 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Thank thank [19-Jan-25 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you're looking for something, it's a good idea to just post something on the LM when you ask local chat. it' just saves everyone a round of back-and-forth [19-Jan-25 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MarkNstein** joined.* [19-Jan-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tierney_78** joined.* [19-Jan-25 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MarkNstein**: Posted some small buy ads, H, HE3, AMM [19-Jan-25 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MarkNstein**: Was gone for 2 years, just restarted. [19-Jan-25 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MarkNstein**: Well, 1.5 years [19-Jan-25 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome back! [19-Jan-25 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anybody know what happened to the HE.CI1 market? Tripled since November [19-Jan-25 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Helium prices sometimes balloon due to inflation [19-Jan-25 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol [20-Jan-25 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Seems like a lot of markets started getting pricey in November [20-Jan-25 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe we had a bunch of new players in november [20-Jan-25 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Maybe, but i heard over in the discord it looked like the opposite, that this winter has lost playerbase, thats why some planets that were normally locked out with too many ghost plots have recently opened up [20-Jan-25 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: I just tried to renew my Moon Support pro lic. But it does not let me it says "in account" ?? Anyone can give me some insight on this [20-Jan-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Are ypu trying to rebuy the support tier, or just the PRO license? [20-Jan-25 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: yes the support tier re-buy but in the buy button slot is says in account im grey [20-Jan-25 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You will have to contact the mods directly. From my understanding its a bit of grey area (no pun intended) to buy support tier multiple times, but it can be done [20-Jan-25 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Funny enough, the mods _just_ talked about this in the main discord [20-Jan-25 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: https://discord.com/channels/350171287785701388/350171288267915277/1330619691605037140 [20-Jan-25 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: ok I thank You. [20-Jan-25 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That should link to the direct message [20-Jan-25 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: I am getting that you buy the support tiers once and done for each I think is what is being told to me. [20-Jan-25 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Idk if that works the same out of discord > into discord though as it does within discord [20-Jan-25 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Molp _just_ said (11h ago): It's usually possible to buy two supporter packages, but it is a manual process. Best to send a mail to hello@prosperousuniverse.com [20-Jan-25 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pantalaimon**: It was a nice journey the last 1.400 days, but now it reached an end. Thanks for all the RCO and money here on Katoa. I've put my last sell orders on the market and wish you all the best with your businesses. [20-Jan-25 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: o7 [20-Jan-25 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: cheers, and thanks for playing with us! [20-Jan-25 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: o7, may you find prosperity in whatever universe you find yourself in [20-Jan-25 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YankiePueri** left.* [20-Jan-25 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nhilus** joined.* [20-Jan-25 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nhilus** left.* [20-Jan-25 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dratir** left.* [20-Jan-25 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sa77ron** left.* [20-Jan-25 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dieter46** joined.* [20-Jan-25 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Two** joined.* [20-Jan-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Suniko** joined.* [20-Jan-25 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: @Pantalaimon so long! thank you so much for all the contributions to Katoa upkeep, greatly appreciated, wish you the best <3 [20-Jan-25 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BongWatersBibleBonkers** joined.* [20-Jan-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDice** left.* [20-Jan-25 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaverickSan** joined.* [20-Jan-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: damn why is ship maintenance so expensive x'D [21-Jan-25 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **dev3l**: I also thought repairing ships was expensive until I found out you need to repair planetary buildings too! :D [21-Jan-25 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AniMasheR** joined.* [21-Jan-25 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: oh, I don't wanna see that anytime soon hah [21-Jan-25 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: GAL.CI1 again! [21-Jan-25 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah, that's what happens when someone buys 1k+ of that [21-Jan-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4f700ab631** left.* [21-Jan-25 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Weatherman120** joined.* [21-Jan-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Planetary buildings mostly seem to be cheap in comparison to profits [21-Jan-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: depends on the building [21-Jan-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a BMP on katoa will cost you about 23 CIS per day in repairs [21-Jan-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but some buildings will cost you 2000 CIS per day in repairs (though not here on katoa) [21-Jan-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, you said "planetary buildings" not "base buildings". ignore me! [21-Jan-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, but those don't need repairs... not sure what we're talking about here [21-Jan-25 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KAPAMOYZA** joined.* [21-Jan-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bzuf** joined.* [21-Jan-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Estrali** joined.* [21-Jan-25 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavyBoone** joined.* [21-Jan-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavyBoone** left.* [21-Jan-25 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr.Doofenshmirtz** left.* [21-Jan-25 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mckstaber** left.* [22-Jan-25 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***boogster** joined.* [22-Jan-25 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***boogster** left.* [22-Jan-25 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera5e14da440** left.* [22-Jan-25 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mahmoudator** joined.* [22-Jan-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mahmoudator**: Hey all [22-Jan-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [22-Jan-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hpgcloud001** joined.* [22-Jan-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kordaf** joined.* [22-Jan-25 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prismfloof** left.* [22-Jan-25 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***fabianocruce** left.* [22-Jan-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MarkNstein**: Greetings [22-Jan-25 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [22-Jan-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Hi there [22-Jan-25 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Howdy [22-Jan-25 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I have an almost empty ship leaving for cb-282d in 12 hrs. Send shipping conts if you need stuff transported. [22-Jan-25 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbd5f4bc2ff** left.* [22-Jan-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I got a LM ad on Yannick for a single SSC, if anyone is over there and can fill it. Alternatively, if someone wants to make the small trip from CX to Yannick, i can pay for shipping from there instead [22-Jan-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Otherwise in going to have to go back and forth over it [22-Jan-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: fulfilled [22-Jan-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: A godsend. I hate when it ticks up right when you get there [22-Jan-25 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: aye [22-Jan-25 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkarm** joined.* [22-Jan-25 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***about.com** joined.* [22-Jan-25 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Scz** joined.* [23-Jan-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kadaire** joined.* [23-Jan-25 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marlis** left.* [23-Jan-25 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wyvern001** joined.* [23-Jan-25 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Majkl097** left.* [23-Jan-25 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Ok who is drinking all the water [23-Jan-25 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kadaire** left.* [23-Jan-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm thirsty, okay [23-Jan-25 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ninjaon** left.* [23-Jan-25 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pbsim**: *slapping water-shaped belly* "i dont know..." [24-Jan-25 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elthalion** left.* [24-Jan-25 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: water may not quench your thirst ,try stl fuel [24-Jan-25 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: always satisfiesβ„’ [24-Jan-25 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zkman420** joined.* [24-Jan-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **zkman420**: how tf do u play this [24-Jan-25 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome :) [24-Jan-25 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: did you watch the starting tutorials yet? [24-Jan-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CommunisticCat** joined.* [24-Jan-25 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maglor** left.* [24-Jan-25 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kostek_PLpl** joined.* [24-Jan-25 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: 200t/200m3 space available from katoa to benten station [24-Jan-25 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: shoot me a contract if you wanna [24-Jan-25 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: sent [24-Jan-25 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wyv3rn** left.* [24-Jan-25 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vaerish** left.* [24-Jan-25 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Posted shipping contracts for Station to Katoa for anyone heading back from the station. Forgot to load supplies onto ship before heading home >.> [24-Jan-25 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Deckss**: selling RDS 275k send me a msg :) [24-Jan-25 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: Some shipping ads up at BEN, for BEN -> Uponor -> BEN. Full LCB and/or WCB loads with return trip if anyone can space a ship [24-Jan-25 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tech_Money** left.* [24-Jan-25 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MentosSpearmint** left.* [25-Jan-25 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BionicEye** joined.* [25-Jan-25 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: Why can't I accept the contract? [25-Jan-25 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: Free players can accept contracts from pro players,right? [25-Jan-25 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: No, free players can't accept contracts. Basic can accept but not send, pro can send and accept [25-Jan-25 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: :c [25-Jan-25 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 8$ goes a long ways if you enjoy the content [25-Jan-25 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: Free can accept lm deal at station,right? [25-Jan-25 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: Indeed this game deserve atleast that much,well can't give a single penny unfortunately [25-Jan-25 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Free can't engage in LM contracts. Can only interact with CX through standard buying/selling [25-Jan-25 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: ... [25-Jan-25 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: Tough [25-Jan-25 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malafides** joined.* [25-Jan-25 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DevDogGames** left.* [25-Jan-25 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dpz34** joined.* [25-Jan-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***unlike** joined.* [25-Jan-25 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadow_Guy16** joined.* [25-Jan-25 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Anyone have NS to sell on Planet? [25-Jan-25 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: How much do you need? [25-Jan-25 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harde** left.* [25-Jan-25 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: I'll buy up to 50@300ea [25-Jan-25 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Sending contract for the 42 I have [25-Jan-25 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Thanks :) [25-Jan-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jasaun** left.* [25-Jan-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evermont** joined.* [25-Jan-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SolidPurp** joined.* [26-Jan-25 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd31df7c67a** left.* [26-Jan-25 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5f1fb2fb78** left.* [26-Jan-25 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackMolly** left.* [26-Jan-25 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***unlike** left.* [26-Jan-25 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Ship leaving for BEN in 7-8 hours with ~700t/m3 to spare. Send contracts if interested. [26-Jan-25 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i just created two shipping ads on the LM which should add up to 700t if i did my maths right [26-Jan-25 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEasternSpy** left.* [26-Jan-25 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Hey, long story short I missed my Limestone and cant produce. Does anyone have some Limestone to trade here? Also, I dont have a premium so not sure if that is a problem. [26-Jan-25 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I have 20LST here, but I'm BASIC so you need to send me a contract. [26-Jan-25 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Basic as well :( [26-Jan-25 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: 200 a piece bid price [26-Jan-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i sent you a contract for 100, let me know if you need more [26-Jan-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: Nice, thx [26-Jan-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Sir_Gideon_Ofnir**: that should suffice [26-Jan-25 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raphiboiii** left.* [26-Jan-25 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_V3ct0r-TTV** joined.* [26-Jan-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shuuky** joined.* [26-Jan-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userac2d7c99cf** left.* [27-Jan-25 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xenite** left.* [27-Jan-25 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Armpit** joined.* [27-Jan-25 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sparkledog** joined.* [27-Jan-25 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: lot of shipping ads on lm cb-282d [27-Jan-25 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera475185fe8** left.* [27-Jan-25 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pggamer** left.* [27-Jan-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gKrzemo** joined.* [27-Jan-25 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Anyone on planet able to provide/make LBH, MHL, and TRU? Don't have funding quite yet, but should soon. [27-Jan-25 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: how much are you looking for? [27-Jan-25 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: 16 MHL and 4 each of the other two [27-Jan-25 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoonTycoon** deleted this message.* [27-Jan-25 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: I have 16 MHL, can bring them in from my base on Yannick [27-Jan-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can sell you the LBH and TRU [27-Jan-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in general, i recommend that if you need something, just post an ad on the LM and let chat know [27-Jan-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's much more efficient than just asking a "does anyone have X" without giving a quantity [27-Jan-25 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Was waiting to post contracts until I can payout. [27-Jan-25 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can put a long deadline in the LM ad (like 7 days or whatever you need) [27-Jan-25 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Feel bad if I don't pay out quick. [27-Jan-25 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: I guess thats what deadlines are for though, if you want it fast, set a faster deadline. [27-Jan-25 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: *shrug* you were up front about it. there's plenty of people who wouldn't have a problem waiting a few days for money, especially for a relatively small amount [27-Jan-25 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silversight** joined.* [27-Jan-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiaoxuexuezha** left.* [27-Jan-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [27-Jan-25 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user177e44083e** left.* [28-Jan-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leofan** joined.* [28-Jan-25 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FunnceX** joined.* [28-Jan-25 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wa-Ve** joined.* [28-Jan-25 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ichindar** joined.* [28-Jan-25 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackTheRyan** joined.* [28-Jan-25 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: has anyone 1 BDE for me ? [28-Jan-25 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: @Lemonkey usually helps me with construction mats [28-Jan-25 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: thx for the Hint [28-Jan-25 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: delivered [28-Jan-25 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: thvm [28-Jan-25 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Multi commodity contracts are here!! [28-Jan-25 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: only on CONTD and not LM saddly [28-Jan-25 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lanteanboy** joined.* [28-Jan-25 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Hopefully those won't be far behind. [28-Jan-25 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbe62317bfd** left.* [28-Jan-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: On the LM wouldn't you stand a better chance of getting your orders filled if you broke them up? The same partner may not have everything. [28-Jan-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Or need everything you're selling [28-Jan-25 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: May not be as usefull of LM buy/sell but very usefull for LM shipping adds. [28-Jan-25 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: If they allow you to partially fulfill a LM ad then I see no downside to giving that to LM as well as CONTD [28-Jan-25 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Or maybe allow you to "post" a multi LM contract, but it appears on the LM as individual ones for each type of commodity. [28-Jan-25 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: New contracts on LM for anyone. [28-Jan-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rook_Pares** joined.* [28-Jan-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user52f2ab9686** left.* [28-Jan-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user254e3c9fda** left.* [28-Jan-25 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Any coops looking for a Katoa permit? 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[29-Jan-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Armpit**: I see some of you post in chat when you have made one [29-Jan-25 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, that's fairly common even on a popular planet like katoa [29-Jan-25 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Armpit**: say if I were to need fuel or something, I could ask someone to make a post to sell fuel on the local market and I can buy it without pro correct? [29-Jan-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, if you need something, definitely ask in local chat [29-Jan-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Armpit**: cool, ty. I guess I could have used help chat for this but I apprciate ya [29-Jan-25 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no worries, anyone and everyone is welcome to ask questions here at katoa chat. we have lots of experienced players who are happy to help [29-Jan-25 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @Armpit you do need BASIC to accept LM ads and PRO to post them. Ditto contracts. 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[30-Jan-25 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can see all the upgrade requirements here: https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Upgrade Costs HQ Level Permits From -> To Part Costs Queue Slots 2 2 -> 3 6 BBH, 4 BDE, 4 BSE, 2 BTA, 12 MCG, 4 TRU 5 3 3 -> 4 16 BBH, 12 BDE, 12 BSE, 6 BTA, 36 MCG, 12 TRU, 20 OFF 5 4 4 -> 5 24 BBH, 16 BDE, 16 BSE, 8 BTA, 48 MCG, 8 MFK, 16 TRU, 4 UTS 5 5 5 -> 6 40 OFF, 20 SUN, 8 UTS, 16 MFK 7 6 6 -> 7 6 LBH, 4 LDE, 4 LSE, 2 LTA, 24 MCG, 12 TRU,... [30-Jan-25 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***janmo_wi** joined.* [30-Jan-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiaogui** joined.* [30-Jan-25 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Looking to get rid of 500 units of surplus H.CI1 Will sell at 110CIS/PPU. Send contract if interested. [30-Jan-25 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Can you send me one for the 500? [30-Jan-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I don't know how to do contracts [30-Jan-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I can't. Need PRO account to send. However, I can accept contracts sent to me. [30-Jan-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Ah okay [30-Jan-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Give me a minute [30-Jan-25 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: delivered [30-Jan-25 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Thx [30-Jan-25 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: You saved a lot of shipping trouble for me [30-Jan-25 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Pleased to be of service. After upgrading my ships, my current mission is to turn into some kind of space trucking business until I run out of carrying capacity. [30-Jan-25 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kordaf** left.* [30-Jan-25 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: couple shipping contracts at station. Made the same mistake again thinking goods were in cargo but they were in warehouse [30-Jan-25 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TJRoh01** left.* [30-Jan-25 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Someone needs to get some TRN so I can keep making PT with the good recipe [30-Jan-25 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Where my electronics peeps at [30-Jan-25 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have TRN (257 units) 300CIS/u. [30-Jan-25 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: one CLR on katoa can make about 4 TRN per day, at a cost of 177 CIS [30-Jan-25 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: typo: 40 TRN per day [30-Jan-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: What's your point? [30-Jan-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: The price of things is what people are willing to pay. Surely you have learned that selling fuel. [30-Jan-25 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my point is: if zvin (or anyone else) wants TRN, they could make a small amount themselves right here on katoa [30-Jan-25 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i wasn't commenting on your price (which i think is a generous and fair price); rather, i was observing the total lack of TRN supply on the CX and giving some ideas to fellow katoans who might have a little free base area [30-Jan-25 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Okay, fair enough. [30-Jan-25 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have 3 CLR on Katoa making NCS most of the time. I don't even use TRN, I just make it for those who ask. [30-Jan-25 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa is a wonderfully flexible planet. don't feel like you're stuck only doing manufacturing or fuel refining [30-Jan-25 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Yes, people shouldnot get hung up on the CoGC. [30-Jan-25 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: I... am very hung up on the cogc D: [30-Jan-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I mean... the CoGC bonus is VERY good, it's just not always *neccessary* for success. Depending on what your goals are, there's a lot of reasons one might ignore it. [30-Jan-25 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: anyway, I'm kind of afraid that I'll just keep plopping down "just one little X to make Y" until I have a zoo [30-Jan-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: which might be fun, but... lots of work and INEFFIENCY [30-Jan-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: my incinerators cry at manufactoring CoGC [30-Jan-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, but if it's fun, then go for it! [30-Jan-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the goal isn't to maximize profits, it's to maximize FUN [30-Jan-25 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Don't tell me what my goals are, maybe i want to overthrow the local governance [30-Jan-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: /me makes an entry is this little notebook of entries [30-Jan-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: _uhnu_, not the little black book of secrets [30-Jan-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: Next planet project will be a jail for traitors [30-Jan-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, this will be how i increase my profits, by forcing you to work without any coffee or kombucha [30-Jan-25 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **latosz**: just put up new shipping ads to hortus on lm [30-Jan-25 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SeaPear** joined.* [30-Jan-25 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***about.com** left.* [31-Jan-25 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bts3ba** joined.* [31-Jan-25 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IOP_542** joined.* [31-Jan-25 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fusagi** left.* [31-Jan-25 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: TRN.AI1 is pretty consistently cheaper than BEN. I sometimes use that for trading arb/"currency conversion" [31-Jan-25 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MiKO237** left.* [31-Jan-25 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***asy1** left.* [31-Jan-25 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Anyone on planet in need of a somewhat regular supply of Carbon? Figured I'd ask instead of shipping to the station 24/7. Price of Carbon is dependent on price average of station. [31-Jan-25 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: across my whole empire, i use about 133 C per day, but here on katoa i only use about 15 per day [31-Jan-25 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: yeah, I'd buy C at BEN's midprice/around 750. Like 100C for 75kCIS right now. I don't know exactly what my regular usage will be since I just opened another base on Gibson, but I can get back to you on that. [31-Jan-25 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Rough calculation: I can buy 10-15C/day or 75-100C/week here on Katoa. [31-Jan-25 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: I'll keep that in mind Isherwood. Currently out, but should have 100 here soon [31-Jan-25 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BARTOQ** joined.* [31-Jan-25 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Athanaric** joined.* [31-Jan-25 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***solamini** joined.* [31-Jan-25 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user855bdcd9c2** left.* [31-Jan-25 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Convair990** joined.* [31-Jan-25 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T0xx** joined.* [31-Jan-25 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: you know what sounds like a good contract? [31-Jan-25 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: 848 stl for 6k and 902 stl for pickup [31-Jan-25 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: our faction really going through corruption phase here [31-Jan-25 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I say it's a loan with interest. Would be happy to receive something like that. 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[03-Feb-25 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome! in order to have a rating, you must have a PRO license [03-Feb-25 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and then you'll get faction contracts every few days. if you accept them (at least the profitable ones), that'll increase your rating [03-Feb-25 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and you can also trade directly with other players without going through the LM (again, you'll need a Pro or Basic license for this) [03-Feb-25 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but note that the vast majority of your trading will be on the CX (Commodity Exchange), where your rating won't matter at all [03-Feb-25 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: Ah, I see. Thanks a lot [03-Feb-25 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: How do you sell on the CX? [03-Feb-25 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: I figured it out, thanks for the help though [03-Feb-25 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there should be a tutorial video on the help/start screen that covers this, but basically you put stuff in a ship and then flying it to the CX [03-Feb-25 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***littlebreadxxx** joined.* [03-Feb-25 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dpz34** left.* [03-Feb-25 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***baaleze** joined.* [03-Feb-25 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gl4ucon** left.* [03-Feb-25 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user354330e762** left.* [03-Feb-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***willgoesboom** joined.* [04-Feb-25 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yanshan** joined.* [04-Feb-25 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sugga**: fuel price looking good [04-Feb-25 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheW4tcher** left.* [04-Feb-25 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eim** joined.* [04-Feb-25 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: LM: selling C and buying LBH+NS [04-Feb-25 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SunnyTheSnek** joined.* [04-Feb-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***golodiyk** joined.* [04-Feb-25 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sozialist_Space_Commune** joined.* [04-Feb-25 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***spacelight** left.* [05-Feb-25 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SirRedicas** left.* [05-Feb-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7ec067e77a** left.* [05-Feb-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FunnceX** left.* [05-Feb-25 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Butxot** joined.* [05-Feb-25 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vtyanisepic** left.* [05-Feb-25 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***eight** joined.* [05-Feb-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChubbshireFarms** left.* [05-Feb-25 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kostek_PLpl** left.* [05-Feb-25 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Weaver101** joined.* [05-Feb-25 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pechemignon** joined.* [05-Feb-25 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cardisje3** joined.* [05-Feb-25 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [05-Feb-25 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We are recruiting exclusively Katoans at the moment for need of more manufacturing bases in the region. Welcome package includes a full base on Katoa plus ship upgrades by week 3. [06-Feb-25 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jakeyjakeyy** joined.* [06-Feb-25 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user39a09d9424** left.* [06-Feb-25 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***heartofthesun2011** left.* [06-Feb-25 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_Weazel** left.* [06-Feb-25 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ReyKa** joined.* [06-Feb-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wa-Ve** left.* [06-Feb-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: I have a few BBH (Basic Bulkhead) and BSE (Basic Structural Element), should I sell them or what should I do with them [06-Feb-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: They have a decent price on them [06-Feb-25 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: I'll probably use them to build s'more buildings [06-Feb-25 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you will pretty much always need BBH and BSE for building new things and for repairing existing buildings [06-Feb-25 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which means there is always a market for them [06-Feb-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: Good to know [06-Feb-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you need cash now, you can sell them. but if you don't need the cash, i would hold on to them, since you'll need them eventually [06-Feb-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Samalax11**: Thanks [06-Feb-25 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bebz** joined.* [06-Feb-25 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordCheesycracker345** left.* [06-Feb-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamer_dog** left.* [06-Feb-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoSabobff** joined.* [06-Feb-25 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Umh, is there anyone who can swap 112 Nitrogen for 112 Hydrogen? I fucked up real hard with the orders. [06-Feb-25 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in which direction? [06-Feb-25 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I have Nitrogen [06-Feb-25 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, i can do that [06-Feb-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Umh, so how do we do this? I'm a bit lost rn [06-Feb-25 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you have a PRO or Basic license? [06-Feb-25 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I'm on pro [06-Feb-25 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, so send me two contracts: one contract to buy 112 hydrogen for 1 CIS, and another contract to sell 112 nitrogen for 1 CIS [06-Feb-25 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (unfortunately there are no direct material-for-material trades in the game right now [06-Feb-25 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Aye, thank you very much, sir [06-Feb-25 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: tada! [06-Feb-25 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Sorry for the wait, I was panicking and had Nitrogen on the ship [06-Feb-25 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no worries [06-Feb-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Back to cooking fuel now [06-Feb-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ’ͺ [06-Feb-25 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think at least 3 times i've bought HE intead of HE3. my refineries weren't happy [06-Feb-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Oh yeah, I almost did that too when I was starting out. Thankfully, this was the first ever mistake with buying consumables. Except the one time when I bought overalls instead of rations. [06-Feb-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: luckily you need both RATs and OVEs! [06-Feb-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Yeah, but the consumption rate diff is 10x, I didn't need a month of OVE, I needed 3 days of RATs xD [06-Feb-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: :D [06-Feb-25 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***molieromelis** left.* [07-Feb-25 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TIGERKHAN** left.* [07-Feb-25 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MoonTycoon**: Ever heard of ropa vieja? [07-Feb-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mig2121** joined.* [07-Feb-25 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syugya** joined.* [07-Feb-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Graham3640** joined.* [07-Feb-25 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TdunkFlying** left.* [07-Feb-25 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Hey guys, I've posted an ad on LM for buying some Hydrogen, anyone interested? Payup in couple hours after my ship arrives to CXL. [08-Feb-25 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Thank you very much. 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[08-Feb-25 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: not sure of any available resources for an explanation but from what i've noticed it is all about the intergrity of the ship and always having the maximum amount of fuel increases efficiency [08-Feb-25 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm also not aware of any good resources of this. but if you have any specific questions about flights, ask and we'll do our best to answer [08-Feb-25 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AbstractChaos**: Thanks, I hadn't found any either, I was trying to include fuel costs into a spreadsheet. I did find the fnar API for jump routes but unsure what the distance value actually means [08-Feb-25 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Got a couple decent shipping contracts on Benten Station if anyone is interested. Shipping to Umbra and Etherwind. [08-Feb-25 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: how do you access the shipping contracts? [08-Feb-25 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: open a new buffer with the "LM BEN" command [08-Feb-25 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (which means "show the local market for benten station") [08-Feb-25 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: Thank you [08-Feb-25 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: im assuming the P license is a first tier Apex subscription? [08-Feb-25 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: basically yeah [08-Feb-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: cool, thank you. [08-Feb-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you need either a Pro or Basic license to accept contracts on the LM [08-Feb-25 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sorry, i should clarify something: the 'P' thing is a "rating". the 'P' is for pending and that's what you get assigned when you first get an apex subscription [08-Feb-25 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shaka**: thank you your Eminence. 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[09-Feb-25 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kardynallos** joined.* [09-Feb-25 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AriesNation**: Wait til they hit 200+ xD [09-Feb-25 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thankfully that is not possible, due to the market maker [09-Feb-25 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AriesNation**: Oh oops I'm thinking of the wrong mat xD [09-Feb-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user32c733c39a** left.* [09-Feb-25 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***T0xx** left.* [09-Feb-25 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercd02f1153b** left.* [09-Feb-25 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hudso** joined.* [09-Feb-25 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DustyBandango** joined.* [09-Feb-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Colvix** joined.* [09-Feb-25 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KawaiiKitKat** left.* [09-Feb-25 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sloh** joined.* [09-Feb-25 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Colvix** left.* [10-Feb-25 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Colvix** joined.* [10-Feb-25 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user70c3030615** left.* [10-Feb-25 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3619334901** left.* [10-Feb-25 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraa51d1e12f** left.* [10-Feb-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JediJoe923** joined.* [11-Feb-25 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Any idea where can i buy MFK? Benten CX is wiped out [11-Feb-25 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FilipeF** joined.* [11-Feb-25 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: How much mfk are you after? [11-Feb-25 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: system map always fails to render. it is normal? [11-Feb-25 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: don't know if it matters, but it is MS UV-351 [11-Feb-25 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: never had any issues with that [11-Feb-25 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: but you can open that system? [11-Feb-25 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: it says to me "component failed to render" [11-Feb-25 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I'm on Katoa, ofc I can. It's on base screen all the time, with planets and all the other objects. [11-Feb-25 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: weird [11-Feb-25 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: universe and planet renders, only system fails to me :( [11-Feb-25 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **FilipeF**: ok, all of a sudden started working [11-Feb-25 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: okay people, listen up. i have now a working ship pipeline, that produces one LCB ship per two weeks. People from the BEN area have first dips on these ships. Delivery is on BEN. Special orders can be made, but might take a bit longer to process. Price for a LCB ship is 5.7mil. Let me know if this is competitive. You can send me a DM if you are interested. [11-Feb-25 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nemmir** joined.* [11-Feb-25 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user44290e07f7** left.* [11-Feb-25 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mostly competitive. Seeing some priced in 3.5M, 4.4M (player has quit and no longer valid but still), 5M, 6.2M [11-Feb-25 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: The lower prices i saw was mostly by shipyards consisting of multiple people, i am doing this alone, so it might be a bit more expensive than those doing it in groups [11-Feb-25 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yee, i get ya. I'll keep it in mind, my money is currently tied tho. [11-Feb-25 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user077e756209** left.* [11-Feb-25 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ieaturanium2** joined.* [11-Feb-25 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: @Scorpium 150 MFK, 200 at max [11-Feb-25 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Nicster -- i haven't run the numbers, but that price feels competitive, especially if you deliver the parts to giedi or yannick. [11-Feb-25 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for me personally, i partly shop on price, but i i mostly look for rapid delivery and local delivery. if someone has a cheaper ship, but also has a backlog of 4+ weeks? i'm probably not interested in that [11-Feb-25 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I can do you 200 mfk if you want to send me a conract @Adiklafa [11-Feb-25 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user842d61d6f4** left.* [11-Feb-25 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: What's your price? Last time I bought it for 280/unit [11-Feb-25 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***loetsch** left.* [11-Feb-25 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ieaturanium2** left.* [11-Feb-25 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: well i wasn't going to deliver to Yannick, but sell on benten station. so not far from yannick :-) [11-Feb-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, even better! [11-Feb-25 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i had to fly out to antares space to pick up a lot of my previous ships, so i do appreciate local delivery here in benten [11-Feb-25 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: sent a contract for 200/ppu to you [11-Feb-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: That's very generous of you, thanks [11-Feb-25 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I try! :P [11-Feb-25 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bowlerchampnr1** left.* [11-Feb-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ieaturanium2** joined.* [11-Feb-25 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ieaturanium2** left.* [11-Feb-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***littlebreadxxx** left.* [11-Feb-25 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WuhLuhWuh** joined.* [11-Feb-25 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TenNeon** left.* [11-Feb-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sebastian000** joined.* [11-Feb-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrmagic113** joined.* [12-Feb-25 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah local is def a highlight [12-Feb-25 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoonTycoon** left.* [12-Feb-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: Does some one need around 100K PE? (: [12-Feb-25 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: need? no. buuut, what's the price? πŸ˜… [12-Feb-25 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Komoru**: mhmm i like flatened prices,- hats about 8CIS? :3 [12-Feb-25 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CornellWeills** joined.* [12-Feb-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ieaturanium2** joined.* [12-Feb-25 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ieaturanium2** left.* [12-Feb-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StineRogers** joined.* [12-Feb-25 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LockheedMartin** joined.* [12-Feb-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Anyone on planet need/want 80C/750ea. Shipping to station soon otherwise. [12-Feb-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [12-Feb-25 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We're recruiting exclusively on Katoa at the moment. Looking to expand our manufactuing base. 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I need a 100 [14-Feb-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have.... 5 units of HE3. yikes i didn't realize i was that low [14-Feb-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Same here [14-Feb-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I guess my refineries will rest during the night [14-Feb-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you want to make FF, i can lots of input supply for that, if you want [14-Feb-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i mean SF [14-Feb-25 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I can sell you 100 HE3. 200CIS/u. Send me a contract. [14-Feb-25 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Sent [14-Feb-25 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Perfect, thank you very much [14-Feb-25 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: YW [14-Feb-25 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Aye, thank you, fellow Katoans, my refineries are loaded now [14-Feb-25 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balazamon0** left.* [14-Feb-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pouchey2** joined.* [14-Feb-25 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***poimon** joined.* [14-Feb-25 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi all, elections at Katoa are underway. Please re-elect @TAfirehawk as governor again [15-Feb-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SunnyTheSnek** left.* [15-Feb-25 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AbstractChaos**: @eminence32 I actually voted for you but will change it [15-Feb-25 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mab1405** joined.* [15-Feb-25 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thank you! there's no way to have "tickets" or groups of people to vote for, so sometimes we have to ask for some adjustments of votes to get the result we want [15-Feb-25 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Why is it important for firehawk to be in charge instead of you? [15-Feb-25 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, this is a good question. TAfirehawk and the KAWA corp have been governing katoa (and many planets in this general area) for a long time [15-Feb-25 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: mechanically speaking, they only need to be on parliament (which is what you need to be able to create motions, start programs, etc). [15-Feb-25 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but since they are doing all of the actual work, they deserve the title of governor [15-Feb-25 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Aye, got it, thank you [15-Feb-25 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cwk111134** joined.* [15-Feb-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [15-Feb-25 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***allhaillord420** joined.* [15-Feb-25 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pechemignon** left.* [15-Feb-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user823483032d** left.* [15-Feb-25 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: posted quite a variety of ads on lm [15-Feb-25 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: If you're willing to pick up on BEN, I can fill all that for free for ya. [15-Feb-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Consider it a mini grant, courtesy of your favorite local commies. [15-Feb-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: I happen to already have a ship on the way, arriving in 13h [15-Feb-25 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Perfect then. Pull your ads off the lm and send me that cont. [15-Feb-25 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Although if you're planning on building an HYF on Katoa, I might advise against that. [15-Feb-25 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: There are better things to do on Katoa than agriculture or food processing. Look into Manufacturing if you ask me. But if you want to build that HYF, I'll give you the materials all the same. [15-Feb-25 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: commited to doing what we're doing, future bases will be on specific planets [15-Feb-25 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Okay. [15-Feb-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Best of luck :) [15-Feb-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: :) [15-Feb-25 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Bunch of shipping ads on the BEN LM, shipping to Hephaestus. Barely any tonnage (<100t/m), paying 7k for the lot of them. 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[20-Feb-25 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yannick [20-Feb-25 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: No point to have multiple in system [20-Feb-25 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's also a shipyard pretty nearby at Giedi Prime [20-Feb-25 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Shipyards require a plot. Katoa is full (most of the time) so its not wise to make one there. [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: wait what? A plot... does this mean any player can create their own shipyard or how does that work? [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: no no [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Each planetary project requires a plot [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: so the SHY, COGC, ADM, [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: all require a plot [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: they occupy a plot [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: ahh [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: so if the planet is full, you can't complete the construction of a SHY [20-Feb-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: or COGC [20-Feb-25 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: or ADM [20-Feb-25 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so a shipyard is a government project but it can only happen if plots are available [20-Feb-25 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: yep [20-Feb-25 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: So you can't just roll in and order a ship/upgrade even if you have monies? [20-Feb-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: what? [20-Feb-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: you can do that at any shipyard [20-Feb-25 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: not on any planet though [20-Feb-25 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Oh, ok, nvm then [20-Feb-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 2k/500 leaving katoa for BEN for in 6 hours, prob day travel once off the ground [20-Feb-25 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrmagic113** left.* [20-Feb-25 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6076bdfa67** left.* [20-Feb-25 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***connerh13** left.* [21-Feb-25 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8d4d2d47f0** left.* [21-Feb-25 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reddi_Fun** joined.* [21-Feb-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GigithAH1221** joined.* [21-Feb-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***itsz** joined.* [21-Feb-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***itsz** left.* [21-Feb-25 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thinkcraftpl** left.* [21-Feb-25 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JonathanCorp** left.* [21-Feb-25 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nocalose** left.* [21-Feb-25 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yukinojo** left.* [21-Feb-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tjarkuss** left.* [21-Feb-25 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Project_Teddy** joined.* [21-Feb-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zoids** joined.* [22-Feb-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keketso** joined.* [22-Feb-25 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***russinthesky** joined.* [22-Feb-25 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kamikasa** left.* [22-Feb-25 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I've put a buying ad for Hydro on LM if anyone is interested [22-Feb-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zhuwu** joined.* [22-Feb-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***1ronMonkey76** joined.* [23-Feb-25 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb4a2dbace7** left.* [23-Feb-25 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Echo099** joined.* [23-Feb-25 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AI_9527** joined.* [23-Feb-25 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Agnett** joined.* [23-Feb-25 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: so... guys, got a question, where do I apply a permit to increase my base size? I can't find it anywhere [23-Feb-25 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: At your HQ planet [23-Feb-25 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Open Base view and choose HQ [23-Feb-25 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Sorry, misunderstanding.. [23-Feb-25 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Open Base, than ad/remove permit [23-Feb-25 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: On the right hand side of your screen there is a menu. fourth name down in 'BS' above 'CONT' click BS and it will open up all your bases and their permits. There you can can add or remove permits from any of your bases [23-Feb-25 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: erm.. that was meant to be left hand side of course.. sorry [23-Feb-25 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seventy9** joined.* [23-Feb-25 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: ahh, cheers! 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[24-Feb-25 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: My ships are at Katoa. I could go to BEN but it would take extra time. [24-Feb-25 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Where are you going from Katoa then? [24-Feb-25 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Im just trying to sell my shipping services. I dont know how much to charge im just getting back into the game. [24-Feb-25 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Usual rate is 10CIS/highest unit, usually tonnes [24-Feb-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Thanks I appreciate it. 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[26-Feb-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bojidar008**: as many as you can afford [26-Feb-25 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you need a PRO license to expand beyond HQ level 5 (i think) [26-Feb-25 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: ah thx, but pro license is a subscription right ? [26-Feb-25 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep! [26-Feb-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: There is also a gifting system that just got implemented, but it shaves off time of the gifter so idk how much of it has been used [26-Feb-25 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: Okay interesting :o [26-Feb-25 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: i have still much to learn about that game, but i love it so far [26-Feb-25 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marvellstar** joined.* [26-Feb-25 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It's very in depth once you know what you want to do [26-Feb-25 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and please ask if you have questions! we're happy to help [26-Feb-25 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gustel122** joined.* [26-Feb-25 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***joesephwm0646** joined.* [26-Feb-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DaddyMcBaddy** left.* [26-Feb-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1d698cf6ac** left.* [26-Feb-25 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user76d7d10c12** left.* [27-Feb-25 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***0rikane** joined.* [27-Feb-25 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seegson** joined.* [27-Feb-25 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maksim9934** joined.* [27-Feb-25 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BosonStar** joined.* [27-Feb-25 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roma566** joined.* [27-Feb-25 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Levi5k** joined.* [27-Feb-25 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CocaineFangs** joined.* [27-Feb-25 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CocaineFangs**: Hello There! [27-Feb-25 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [27-Feb-25 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: o/ [27-Feb-25 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Levi5k** left.* [27-Feb-25 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I've put 2 hydro buying ad on LM if anyone is interested [27-Feb-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexins** joined.* [27-Feb-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sorenb808** joined.* [27-Feb-25 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anonymous3743** joined.* [27-Feb-25 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user640357dc76** left.* [28-Feb-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tiplec** joined.* [28-Feb-25 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azudest** joined.* [28-Feb-25 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yukkiryo** joined.* [28-Feb-25 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tiggster** joined.* [28-Feb-25 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: hii [28-Feb-25 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wolf747** joined.* [28-Feb-25 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Hello! [28-Feb-25 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Seegson**: Hi, could someone please tell me, how to load cargo into ship? Do I have to surface land first? [28-Feb-25 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah your ships have to be on planet to pickup cargo on planet [28-Feb-25 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Seegson**: Thanks a lot! [28-Feb-25 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: any recommendations for a nearby he3 planet? [28-Feb-25 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: DW-456g [28-Feb-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Best bet without flying far just for the RE [28-Feb-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: If you are dedicated, OY-793f [28-Feb-25 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: how can i get more ships ? [28-Feb-25 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Oh, I'm so not dedicated :-) I was hoping for a planet where I could get a bit of he3 but mostly focus on some other business. Resource bases are more of a [sometimes] necessary evil as far as I'm concerned. I set up a base on cb282d for H back when BEN prices were high/volatile. Kinda seems to be the situation with He3 now. [28-Feb-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @Flashmoe You need a PRO license to keep more than 2 in the air at the same time (you can own more, they just can't fly simultaneously). Other than that, you make a blueprint at a shipyard, bring the materials overs, and one will be built. [28-Feb-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You must PRO to use a shipyard, fair warning [28-Feb-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: There are also players and corps focusing on shipbuilding. You'll find them on the UFO discord. 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[03-Mar-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I contacted a shipbuilder, mostly because I was clueless about how shipbuilding actually worked. After signing the contract and getting the list, I looked up the materials on the CXs. Some very cheaper, others much more expensive. [03-Mar-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: In that sense, it's not really different than building a base. If you shop around or wait for good deals, you can get good deals on the CX. The same holds for the LM. Or for individuals conts. [03-Mar-25 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moeto** joined.* [03-Mar-25 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Huppey** left.* [03-Mar-25 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: I would head opver to the UFO Discord channel and check the deal offered by Schaitr. They offer a great deal on ship upgrades for new players. [03-Mar-25 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: That's what I did for both of my upgrades. 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[03-Mar-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: What do you reckon 400K SF would go for at market rate? [03-Mar-25 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VotBlin** joined.* [03-Mar-25 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Robbintje90** left.* [03-Mar-25 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toasterr** joined.* [03-Mar-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Impregn8** left.* [03-Mar-25 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nine.One** left.* [03-Mar-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AI_9527** left.* [03-Mar-25 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***irkman4536** joined.* [04-Mar-25 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kwyxl** joined.* [04-Mar-25 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Black-Iris** left.* [04-Mar-25 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: If you need amounts smaller than 500 H please reach out. [04-Mar-25 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Also offing discounts to players with less than 30 days. 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[10-Mar-25 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: I'm a total noob here, I just placed an order on the commodity exchange; do I need to just wait for my products to arrive or should I send a ship somewhere? [10-Mar-25 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Both? You wait for someone to (potentially) fill your bid order, and then when it fills it will be located at the CX for you to go get [10-Mar-25 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: was it a buy order or a sell order? was it fulfilled? [10-Mar-25 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: thanks, it was a BUY order, I set the price high enough so that there is offer, and I see in windows CSOS that the stauts is "filled" [10-Mar-25 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: CXOS, sorry [10-Mar-25 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Then it will be in your warehouse on the CX, if you have one [10-Mar-25 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: If you do not, it will be in a contract by the CX for the traded good [10-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: I don't have a warehouse on the CX, I really just started today :) [10-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: that means I have created a contract and I'm now in the hope the seller agrees to deliver? [10-Mar-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, if you buy order was fulfilled, then that means that the market automatically found a seller with a matching price [10-Mar-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so now the only task is to deliver the materials to you [10-Mar-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: normally the materials would be automatically delievered to a ship cargo, or to a warehouse [10-Mar-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but if you have neither, then open a buffer with the CONTS command and you should see a contract that you can accept to accept delivery of your materials [10-Mar-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: thanks, there are two contracts corresponding to my orders, but with status "closed" [10-Mar-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok, if you open the details of the contract there should be a "contract condition" to pick up the materials [10-Mar-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you won't be able to do that unless you rent a warehouse at the CX, or if you fly a ship to the CX [10-Mar-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: yes, this condition is pending [10-Mar-25 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: ok, thank you very much, I'll now dive into this new rabbit hole :D [10-Mar-25 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: great, and welcome again! 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If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [10-Mar-25 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B00NE** left.* [11-Mar-25 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***baixiaoyao** left.* [11-Mar-25 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **flair78**: Hello all [11-Mar-25 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Verus** left.* [11-Mar-25 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Howdy 🀠 [11-Mar-25 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ning258d** joined.* [11-Mar-25 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AccuratePower** left.* [11-Mar-25 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Vibe check. How we all feeling today? [11-Mar-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: :) [11-Mar-25 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Upinu**: stellar :D [11-Mar-25 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: universal [11-Mar-25 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nelson-expert** left.* [11-Mar-25 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sphex** joined.* [11-Mar-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashisaphnx** joined.* [11-Mar-25 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8673a79f40** left.* [11-Mar-25 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korgen** joined.* [11-Mar-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf895629440** left.* [11-Mar-25 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: cosmical [11-Mar-25 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: galactical [11-Mar-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoundKick** joined.* [11-Mar-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: non-prosperous [12-Mar-25 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralConsensus**: taken-care-of [12-Mar-25 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userab7cb09088** left.* [12-Mar-25 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VotBlin** left.* [12-Mar-25 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere9ba919292** left.* [12-Mar-25 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8f38cbab70** left.* [12-Mar-25 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4b35971f45** left.* [12-Mar-25 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anyone selling H? In bulkish sizes (2-4k)? [12-Mar-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you looking specifically for a seller here at katoa? [12-Mar-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Or can deliver. I don't have the shape availability to get that much volume out here, even if it is close by currently [12-Mar-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I am currently juggling water > agr > food > market [12-Mar-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: got it. i can ship in some hydrogen over the new few days [12-Mar-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: tyty, you want me to send a buy cont, or a shipping cont [12-Mar-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a buy contract [12-Mar-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Name your price [12-Mar-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if it's 4k units or less, give me the standard 3 day delivery time. 100/ppu [12-Mar-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ... you discounts for bigger? [12-Mar-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (more units is possible, but requires more time to ship it in) [12-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mostly a joke, but might as well ask [12-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I don't need more, I just don't want to have to think about restocking it for a couple weeks [12-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, i don't think i'd reduce the price for a bigger order [12-Mar-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but you're always welcome to ask :) [12-Mar-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Then I am good with like 3-4k. Whatever is more convenient to you, since you are doing the work of shipping [12-Mar-25 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for this contract, you pick quantity, up to 4k units. i'll try to stockpile more here at kaota for any future needs [12-Mar-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (storage is a little bit of a problem, but i probably can keep about 10k unit here at katoa) [12-Mar-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I appreciate you getting the goods for me. Usually there is a LM order I can just buy from on my own time [12-Mar-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: aye [12-Mar-25 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: And the planet is close to the CX, which lines up every other month, so that's nice [12-Mar-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: if you need some urgently I can sell H [12-Mar-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Eminence handled it already, thank you though [12-Mar-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I had a couple days of time before anything bad, but I always try to think a week or two out at the least for inputs [12-Mar-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: makes sense. i personally try to keep about 3 weeks worth of materials on all my bases [12-Mar-25 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Weqrowae** joined.* [12-Mar-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amine1234** joined.* [12-Mar-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antartes** joined.* [12-Mar-25 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera7cd658984** left.* [13-Mar-25 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0b5a67ac8c** left.* [13-Mar-25 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Posted a buying ad for H on LM if anyone's interested [13-Mar-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PsyNami** left.* [13-Mar-25 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arrodes** joined.* [13-Mar-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antartes** left.* [13-Mar-25 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freezerassasin** left.* [13-Mar-25 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexanderOswin** joined.* [13-Mar-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elphael** left.* [14-Mar-25 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf6a15ee52d** left.* [14-Mar-25 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PizzaPolice** left.* [14-Mar-25 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Donutboy1027** joined.* [14-Mar-25 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***paxdeitailoring** joined.* [14-Mar-25 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pigeoninmyhand** joined.* [14-Mar-25 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pigeoninmyhand**: does anyone like my username [14-Mar-25 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 🐦🀚 [14-Mar-25 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pigeoninmyhand** left.* [14-Mar-25 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pigeoninmyhand** joined.* [14-Mar-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FancyFaynus** left.* [14-Mar-25 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bzuf** left.* [14-Mar-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** joined.* [14-Mar-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well well well [14-Mar-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What have we here [14-Mar-25 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: welcome to katoa! [14-Mar-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: So ... katoa? [14-Mar-25 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: (sohcahtoa) [14-Mar-25 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Welcome BACK you mean :) [14-Mar-25 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Who on earth let coffee get this expensive eh [15-Mar-25 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If any old hands see this and remember and would like to loan me some funds to ease an old mans return to Katoa please DM me :) [15-Mar-25 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Woohoo ... welcome back @neke86 πŸ˜€ [15-Mar-25 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Welcome back. How much do you want? [15-Mar-25 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moeto** left.* [15-Mar-25 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hello @Scorpium [15-Mar-25 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Long time no see! [15-Mar-25 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: ayyy, welcome home. happy to help if I can :) [15-Mar-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Testrik3693** joined.* [15-Mar-25 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***serlu** left.* [15-Mar-25 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vipo** left.* [15-Mar-25 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealG** joined.* [15-Mar-25 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSignalist** joined.* [15-Mar-25 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user92bc8fec81** left.* [15-Mar-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bv** joined.* [15-Mar-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bautistadaluz** joined.* [15-Mar-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bautistadaluz**: sorry, how do I trade? [15-Mar-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Watching "the market guide" vid is something I found very helpful. Otherwise you can look on the Trade screen, the CX window, and click the Trade button for the goods you're interested in. 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[16-Mar-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arrodes** left.* [16-Mar-25 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf23df986cd** left.* [16-Mar-25 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Subterfuge** joined.* [16-Mar-25 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XtaleGaster** joined.* [16-Mar-25 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: much pain, much info [16-Mar-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hello and welcome [16-Mar-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I can't seem to build anything, likely because I built another a ship before a starter building... [16-Mar-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: This game will be difficult to get a hang of. [16-Mar-25 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, it's not possible for a new account to immeditally build a ship [16-Mar-25 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: whats the avi-05q4h, i assume it's some sort of ship [16-Mar-25 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes. but you start with 2 ships [16-Mar-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I vaguely remember it taking me through a thing about that where I built it, but I did manage to figure out that they were carrying the resources I needed, just needed to unload both of them [16-Mar-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: About how long does it usually take for someone to get off the ground/boostrap the company(is that what it's called?) [16-Mar-25 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: things will be pretty slow for the first few weeks. i'm guessing you selected the fuel refiner starter package? [16-Mar-25 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Uhh, I think I'm still in the tutorial stages, I don't know what you are referring to [16-Mar-25 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you built any production lines yet? like a refinery building? [16-Mar-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I have so far built a prefab plant mk1 [16-Mar-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: but I don't think it's what i'm supposed to build [16-Mar-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I don't know about you, but HD2 feels less stressful than what I feel at the moment [16-Mar-25 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Go back and watch all the videos. Or you'll be wandering round lost. [16-Mar-25 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Then read the handbook tutorials. You'll only need the first few. [16-Mar-25 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Basically: build base, craft items, sell at market, use $ to craft more and expand base. Repeat until you get the hang of it. [16-Mar-25 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I think I managed to do the create a production order contract [16-Mar-25 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I see that resources are required for the workforce, do they die if left without resources for an extended period of time? [16-Mar-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Not sure - I keep them fed just in case. Maybe they just leave. [16-Mar-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, they don't die, but they'll pretty much stop working [16-Mar-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: your production efficiency will drop very low, meaning it will take a very long time for anything to get made [16-Mar-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: So, if I were to hypothetically vanish off the face of the universe for some time, I can come back to a living workforce? [16-Mar-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: like i said, your workers won't die, they'll still be part of your base. so you'd normally just need to give them supplies again and they'll get back to work [16-Mar-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but see this FAQ entry about inactive accounts: [16-Mar-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html#im-going-to-be-away-from-the-game-for-some-time-how-are-inactive-accounts-handled {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Handbook General What is the current status of the game? What comes after Early Access? Is Prosperous Universe a free-2-play game? Why still make a browser-based game today? Can Prosperous Universe be played on mobile? Will the game be available on Steam / the Apple App Store / my favorite platform? Can I change my username? When will this universe be re... [16-Mar-25 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Ah, Due to my current situations, I think my best choice would to be delete my account now and try again when I have enough time to sink into this game, good concept, but brain hurts [16-Mar-25 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of people set up production lines and check in on them only a few times per week [16-Mar-25 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you need to step away for a while, no worries, we'll be here if you decide to join us again :) [16-Mar-25 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Farewell, may we meet again, should the stars decree it so. [17-Mar-25 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamerBear741** joined.* [17-Mar-25 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: what is the average time to build the second base [17-Mar-25 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AOL1008** joined.* [17-Mar-25 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Depends on if you take a loan. Could be as quick as a couple days [17-Mar-25 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: A lot of people also fully fill their first base before moving to a second one [17-Mar-25 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Either the full 500, or some even put 3 permits in their first base before moving [17-Mar-25 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: i can take loans ? :o [17-Mar-25 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: other players offer them but it requires the ability to accept contracts which requires a PRO or BASIC account [17-Mar-25 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: to answer the second base question above, I built my 2nd base after 85 days and my third after 105 days. [17-Mar-25 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I think I'm one of the slower players though. No loans either. [17-Mar-25 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: 1st base was here on Katoa. I ran REFs making SF and FF. This was back when H was more expensive and fuel profits were lower. [17-Mar-25 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: Ah okay thx, im playing for 22 days and thought im slow haha [17-Mar-25 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: There are strong parallels to the real world business/finance/economics here. If you start in a booming industry (currently FRMing?), then it'll go a lot faster. Loans will speed it up but also risk bankruptcy/getting into a hole. And since the other players are humans, doing detailed calculations of profit/income and balancesheets actually makes a significant difference. [17-Mar-25 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Flashmoe**: Thx you for all of the informations. Im currently building my base to have everything. ^^ [17-Mar-25 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user194f32fac8** left.* [17-Mar-25 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leftys** joined.* [17-Mar-25 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user42776dda54** left.* [17-Mar-25 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: farming is a booming industry? [17-Mar-25 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: You can farm but certainly not 'booming' - soil fertility is not great and you do not get any bonus because the CoGC here is Manufacturing. You would be much better to put a base on Proxion, though you do need to ship in water there. [17-Mar-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Nemisis is another good farming planet but it is not very close. It is often faster to go from katoa to Proxion than it is to go the the local planets or the station. [17-Mar-25 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I have a farm on both but Proxion would be my first choice. [17-Mar-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: That said, NemEsis has water (H2O) where it is not worth the effort on Proxion. I spelled Nemesis wrong previously. [17-Mar-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I didn't mean farm here on Katoa. But RAT.CI1 and FIM.CI1 have been reliably high for weeks. [17-Mar-25 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I am farming here on Katoa [17-Mar-25 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's a simple, honest life [17-Mar-25 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Untroubled by the pressure of space capitalism [17-Mar-25 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ™ [17-Mar-25 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: I gotta ask this, I have a question about my permits. In the Headquarters window my base permits says 3/4 .... Now when i look in my Base window it says "Used Area" 833/1000 - Permits 3/3 ?? Is there something off or wrong i am thinking where's my fourth permit. Am i right?? ..or? [17-Mar-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: each base can use at most 3 permits (with all 3 permits granting 1000 base area) [17-Mar-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you have 4 permits total (and 3 in use) then you can create another baes, but it has to be on a different planet [17-Mar-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: ok i got it looks like we can only use 3 permits per base then to use the others we need to get a 2nd base oh another planet [17-Mar-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: oh yeah [17-Mar-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (you're only allowed 1 base per planet) [17-Mar-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: ya ty sucks [17-Mar-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SpaceMonk3y**: oh ok thats why [17-Mar-25 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dask-V** joined.* [17-Mar-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: eminence: can someone who has a lapsed PRO accept a personal contract? [17-Mar-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep [17-Mar-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a BASIC account can accept any type of contract, but cannot create/initiate contracts [17-Mar-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: thanks [17-Mar-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (correction: BASIC accounts can also post shipping ads on the LM) [18-Mar-25 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Only CX lm, not planet lm [18-Mar-25 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Can I buy 8 MFK from someone? I bought everything for the HQ upgrade except that [18-Mar-25 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: (Don't know how did I manage that) [18-Mar-25 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Contract sent [18-Mar-25 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Thx [18-Mar-25 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Np [18-Mar-25 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antartes** left.* [18-Mar-25 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userccbcf93a90** left.* [18-Mar-25 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MommyMelkrs** left.* [18-Mar-25 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user46a00c728f** left.* [18-Mar-25 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rotundxjere** left.* [18-Mar-25 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***m1ller** joined.* [18-Mar-25 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***brownman304** left.* [18-Mar-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CoffeeCupMassacre** joined.* [18-Mar-25 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M27A1192172** joined.* [19-Mar-25 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6df6d08d81** left.* [19-Mar-25 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Some LM ads for Bfabs I need urgently [19-Mar-25 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thank you [19-Mar-25 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: argh and one more [19-Mar-25 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Done [19-Mar-25 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: much obliged [19-Mar-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: At what point or indicators that I have finished the bootstrapping stage? [19-Mar-25 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamerBear741** left.* [19-Mar-25 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamerBear741** joined.* [19-Mar-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user10537b5bf6** left.* [19-Mar-25 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: From what I have been seeing, HQ20 [19-Mar-25 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: After that point, it's dedication to the craft [19-Mar-25 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You'll be pretty stable by HQ10 [19-Mar-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: enjoy the high SF prices katoan fuel refiners! [19-Mar-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamerBear741** left.* [19-Mar-25 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Don.Espina**: thank you sir! [19-Mar-25 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamerBear741** joined.* [19-Mar-25 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I'd be happy to sell 20,000SF @17.00 here directly. If anyone is interested, post ad on LM. Saves me the trip. [19-Mar-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korgen** left.* [19-Mar-25 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lubin.00** joined.* [19-Mar-25 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user22b54ec0eb** left.* [20-Mar-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Presby** left.* [20-Mar-25 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syiss** joined.* [20-Mar-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone need goods hauled to BEN? I have 250/250 free and need the fare :D [20-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: posted shipping [20-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: 249.6t [20-Mar-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Gratefully accepted [20-Mar-25 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Weqrowae** left.* [20-Mar-25 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ning258d** left.* [20-Mar-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amine1234** left.* [20-Mar-25 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3c233939cc** left.* [20-Mar-25 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: How do I check my company rating? [20-Mar-25 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Nevermind, I think I figured it out. :P [21-Mar-25 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user148641d5c0** left.* [21-Mar-25 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yym** joined.* [21-Mar-25 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yym**: hello [21-Mar-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi [21-Mar-25 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Does the rating even matter? Cause for me it looked like the rating itself is just a separator between basic and pro license users. People still trade with anyone from pending anyway. [21-Mar-25 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: you can set the minimum ranking the partner must have for contracts [21-Mar-25 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Yeah, I know. I'm just that it doesn't matter cause most of the contracts are set to the lowest PRO ranking anyway [21-Mar-25 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: which is Pending [21-Mar-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: the idea behind ratings was to indicate who is more trustworthy. [21-Mar-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Its kinda broken tho [21-Mar-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: and pirates are quickly banished [21-Mar-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: so almost everyone is trustworthy [21-Mar-25 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Yeah, I reckon the community is pretty small and scamming is not appreciated one bit. [21-Mar-25 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Syiss**: i thought u had to complete contracts to get ur rating up, is that not the case [21-Mar-25 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: but to rule out the possibility of an untrustworthy company accepting your contract, it is appropriate... not a bad habit from my own experience ;) [21-Mar-25 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I just had an issue where the person posted contracts and went afk and what I got for myself is that it's better to check not just the playtime but the number of contracts recently fulfilled too. [21-Mar-25 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: The issue resolved positively tho, the guy messaged me like 5 days after breaching and fulfilled the contracts. [21-Mar-25 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: good for you, I had some companys that use COLIQ (thin they tried out how contracts works) [21-Mar-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaLLenSkiLL** joined.* [21-Mar-25 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CS0** joined.* [21-Mar-25 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaLLenSkiLL** left.* [21-Mar-25 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaLLenSkiLL** joined.* [21-Mar-25 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FTL** left.* [21-Mar-25 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MVaniac** joined.* [21-Mar-25 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neried** joined.* [21-Mar-25 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zonyer** joined.* [21-Mar-25 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***darklight2367** joined.* [21-Mar-25 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***10_e24** left.* [21-Mar-25 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LockheedMartinGlazer** joined.* [21-Mar-25 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera068e39d6b** left.* [21-Mar-25 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dynamiclogistics** left.* [21-Mar-25 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Looking for someone to do a regular 500/500 shipping between proxion and katoa. [21-Mar-25 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silversight** left.* [22-Mar-25 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ACE-TAFFY** joined.* [22-Mar-25 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heilunzi** joined.* [22-Mar-25 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm selling DW/RAT here at sub-CX (only marginally sorry) until I bootstrap and grow [22-Mar-25 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Any trade on the LM appreciated [22-Mar-25 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Watterkill** joined.* [22-Mar-25 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm sure you'll have no problem at all selling DW/RAT here [22-Mar-25 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Looking for someone to do a 170/d LST shipment between katoa and proxion. [22-Mar-25 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Donutboy1027** left.* [22-Mar-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darkarm** left.* [23-Mar-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kiriko0.o** joined.* [23-Mar-25 04:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olaff** joined.* [23-Mar-25 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ash_Lazarus** joined.* [23-Mar-25 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: Hi my Friends. i ned your help. i was 5 days not online and have a lack of dw and rat and have a lack of DW and [23-Mar-25 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: got your rats and dw ;) [23-Mar-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dengetorix**: Scorpium is the Hero of the Day [23-Mar-25 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Not sure about a 'hero'... I just beat the other 'heros' by being online first! :P [23-Mar-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: brb making a plaque for Scorpium that says "Katoa's hero who happened to be awake at the time" [23-Mar-25 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Awesome :) [23-Mar-25 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD don't act like it's not a pattern though, Scorpium got your back [23-Mar-25 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pigeoninmyhand** left.* [23-Mar-25 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user539b649550** left.* [23-Mar-25 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Blackdeath822** joined.* [23-Mar-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In three hours I will have 2x 500t ships leaving Proxion empty to return to either BEN or Katoa; let me know if you'd like something hauled. [23-Mar-25 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Rates? I have spare greens that could be moved to CX [23-Mar-25 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: whatever the going is tbh im a bit out of date [23-Mar-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AshfromSaunders** joined.* [23-Mar-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: About 10/highest unit [23-Mar-25 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: At least that's what i keep hearing others say. Depending where you go some places charge by the jump and some charge very little [23-Mar-25 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **AshfromSaunders**: hello [23-Mar-25 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2500 is fine? [23-Mar-25 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Contracts sent for both ships [23-Mar-25 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [23-Mar-25 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ACE-TAFFY** left.* [24-Mar-25 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user23e8836489** left.* [24-Mar-25 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is there nobody here making SUN.CI1 ? [24-Mar-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: not regularly, but i can put it in my production chain, how much you need? [24-Mar-25 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need 20 please :) But it's just strange to see BMP outputs dry at CI1 [24-Mar-25 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yym**: hello, how can I send links in chat? [24-Mar-25 05:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Just paste it, it works for me [24-Mar-25 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yym**: DW.CI1 [24-Mar-25 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yym**: oh, thx [24-Mar-25 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: okay @neke86 you can send me a contract at whatever price you want :-) [24-Mar-25 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: can fill today [24-Mar-25 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cookiejarviz** joined.* [24-Mar-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***borodatum** joined.* [24-Mar-25 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***greenbull469** joined.* [24-Mar-25 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***draccoslide** joined.* [24-Mar-25 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darx** joined.* [24-Mar-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrBird** joined.* [24-Mar-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MrBird**: Gedagedigedagedago [24-Mar-25 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cerchie** joined.* [24-Mar-25 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep [24-Mar-25 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bautistadaluz** left.* [24-Mar-25 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bv** left.* [24-Mar-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mm [24-Mar-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: doing contracts on mobile is a nightmare [24-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Honestly not that bad, i think yall just aren't used to it [24-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 100% not [24-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but i touch the wrong pixel and it just exits the various screens [24-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i honestly can't do anything on mobile [24-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Mobile definitely has is perks. Have you tried moving things around inventories? [24-Mar-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it's so easy [24-Mar-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: πŸ’™ [24-Mar-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but CONTD is a different kettle of worms [24-Mar-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: They should implement the inventory moving mechanic into pc/core gameplay [24-Mar-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I tend to just use mobile for checking things rather than diong anything in it [24-Mar-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I def don't like _doing_ things, but occasionally i have to but at CX and load ships from various places and times of day or night [24-Mar-25 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: heck, CONTD even on desktop is a little frusturing [24-Mar-25 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitlia_Steele** joined.* [24-Mar-25 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: *opens it* *pokes a moment* *closes it* Yep. Nope. Not right now. haha [24-Mar-25 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh, is it worth putting up LM orders for EXO? [24-Mar-25 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: are you buying or selling? [24-Mar-25 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Right, good thing to mention! Would be selling [24-Mar-25 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's a few things to consider: if you only have small quantities to sell, the LM fees can sometimes eat into profits, but that depends heavily on the item [24-Mar-25 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: consumables like EXO are always in demand, so you'd think that they would sell well on the LM [24-Mar-25 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but in practice that's not generally true, because if people can't get all of their consumables from the LM, they're going to be flying to the CX anyway and once they are already going to the CX they tend to just buy everything there [24-Mar-25 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That's a good point, yeah. I just switched from fuel to BMPs making consumables as someone recommended. Wasn't going anywhere with fuel at the scale I was starting out. [24-Mar-25 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so i think i would suggest listing some stuff to get a sense about how quickly the items would sell, but don't be surprised if you don't have a lot of takers [24-Mar-25 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Sounds good [24-Mar-25 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you [24-Mar-25 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for a while i listed a small amount of all the major consumables on the LM at slightly above CX prices, as a way for people to get "emergency supplies" in case they needed them [24-Mar-25 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think i probably had about 1 LM order per week, and it was annoying to keep re-listing things, so i stopped doing this [24-Mar-25 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've found you generally need to list on the LM at a discount to CX unless someone is asking for emergency supplies [24-Mar-25 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Given how expensive fuel is, a slight discount still probably makes sense [24-Mar-25 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Problem with EXO is they're not needed in large quantities and for what they are, they're not expensive. I suspect most players by several weeks worth at a time [24-Mar-25 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: buy* [24-Mar-25 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Similar problem with PWO [24-Mar-25 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the other problem with the LM is that the contract sized is fixed. if you have 100 units to sell, but someone only needs 10 units, then they're probably just going to ignore your ad [24-Mar-25 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would work much better if more people posted buys there [24-Mar-25 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [24-Mar-25 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Ideally nobody here is buying BMP outputs on the CX, but here we are lol [24-Mar-25 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, a lot of us are making our own, but you never know :) [24-Mar-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Of course so buy ads should be fillable [24-Mar-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for those outliers [24-Mar-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_V3ct0r-TTV** left.* [24-Mar-25 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ajax_MK6** joined.* [24-Mar-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Bit late, but i wanted to add something. I personally never check LMs unless I am selling something, which is rare nowdays. Im sure there are plenty like me, who would not know someone is selling on the LM unless it was said in a chat. Might he something i want/need even, but wouldnt have a clue or thought to think about looking in LMs for my problems. Too many clicks for low % chance of finding something useful [25-Mar-25 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dont you have screens for your local CX and planets? [25-Mar-25 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh nice you're on KW-358c [25-Mar-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Wow, Yannick has inhabitants!? [25-Mar-25 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yep, im on both in fact [25-Mar-25 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I have screens for each base, but its largely the same info but for each base: BS, Workforce Upkeeps, Production Lines, inventory, little spot for ships so i can grab their inventory easy [25-Mar-25 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueArmy_101** left.* [25-Mar-25 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user068b93266d** left.* [25-Mar-25 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I kinda hate making screens. The process feels tedious, and no grid snapping for window sizes :( [25-Mar-25 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user61c1caebdc** left.* [25-Mar-25 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sparkledog** left.* [25-Mar-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I have starting making my own drinking water! [25-Mar-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Yay... Though I have already ran out of all of my supplys... [25-Mar-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Congrats - get yourself an Etherwind base then you will not run out of water [25-Mar-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Etherwind base? [25-Mar-25 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Also I have 2 rigs extracting water, though because of no suppys, current orders report 62 and110 days [25-Mar-25 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Etherwind is a planet with a lot of H2O : KW-688c [25-Mar-25 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Looks Promising, lots of water, silicon and water, including soil fertility. Will probably have it as my second base, however that works when I get there. [25-Mar-25 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I also made my first custom screen to watch planets [25-Mar-25 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: woo! [25-Mar-25 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: It seems that STL and FTL fuel production would be quite important [25-Mar-25 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of people do make FF and SF here on katoa, but not everyone. some people just buy it from the CX like any other commodity [25-Mar-25 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Back in my day SF was 6-8 CIS and FF was 8-9 [25-Mar-25 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What a time it was, the age of commerce [25-Mar-25 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nothing was impossible! [25-Mar-25 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol things are a bit different now. i also remember when i was happy that i could sell SF at 10CIS per unit [25-Mar-25 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It makes entrepreneuring resource runs with a starter ship to uneconomical [25-Mar-25 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: about how long were you away from the game before you came back? [25-Mar-25 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: over a year [25-Mar-25 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 18 months if you count the dormant time before I hit COLIQ [25-Mar-25 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, so almost the entire time i've been playing [25-Mar-25 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah and I was playing some time before that [25-Mar-25 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 20ish ships, colonized a lot of the difficult planets here (Giedi, Asbestos) [25-Mar-25 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hey did you have a floor plan for a DDT base on Griffonstone? [25-Mar-25 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: not handy. i never clicked 'save' in prunplanner, but it's probably still open in a tab on my computer at home [25-Mar-25 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll go find it in about an hour or two when i get home [25-Mar-25 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd be very grateful for that [25-Mar-25 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Are there any useful planets between here and Etherwind that should be taken note of? [25-Mar-25 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this doesn't directly answer your question, but take a look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [25-Mar-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Thank you, on a skim, looks quite useful [25-Mar-25 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I might end up moving my HQ to Etherwind when I get a base setup [25-Mar-25 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leftys** left.* [25-Mar-25 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Anyone need anything shipped from BEN to Katoa? 490t/490m3, planning on a 4h flight. [25-Mar-25 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i just posted an ad on the katoa LM [25-Mar-25 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Awesome, thank you! [25-Mar-25 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: On my way :) [25-Mar-25 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thanks! [25-Mar-25 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: @XtaleGaster: Giedi Prime for all your AL/ALO and FE/FEO needs with minimal taxes. [25-Mar-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: But... Etherwind is a nice planet to settle on. [25-Mar-25 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've got 2 permits on Giedi Prime, i confirm it's quite nice [25-Mar-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: It's an expensive planet to build on, but with both ALO and FEO it's just so versatile, and nice location too. I'll build there some day... [25-Mar-25 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: She's a harsh mistress and needs to be treated with respect.. but the rewards! Ah the rewards! [25-Mar-25 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oceans of high grade ore! [25-Mar-25 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sometimes the equatorial storms whip up surface deposits from minor continents and simply scatter it across the globe [25-Mar-25 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: @BlueHeeler, Thank ye, I will keep it in mind. And I also think I will go for the Self-Sufficient path mentioned, as much as I can anyways, in the Benten/Katoa Welcome Guide. [25-Mar-25 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It literally rains ALO [25-Mar-25 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: And I imagine that once I get into the system, I can go about setting up auxiliary bases on the various planets for the other resources, such as HE3 or Limestone. [25-Mar-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: And Limestone would be useful to make my own prefab items. [25-Mar-25 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: TBQH there's a lot of that you won't want to, because permits become pretty dear and dropping a base for one thing is often not worth it. [25-Mar-25 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Like my next couple permits are going to set me back something like 20M. [25-Mar-25 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Oh dear [25-Mar-25 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah. It's not too bad up until the early 20s or so, but it starts getting silly pretty quick afterward. [25-Mar-25 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I just looked at the road map, and while Space Elevators is promising, I dread the day that Energy cost is implemented. [25-Mar-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: When you say "20s" what do you refer to? days or something about credits? [25-Mar-25 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: numbers of permits [25-Mar-25 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: or HQ level [25-Mar-25 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: open the "HQ" command to see your current HQ level [25-Mar-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Ah [25-Mar-25 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah after 20, it's the start of the Afab grind, and they are time (and therefore cash) intensive labor [25-Mar-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: There wouldn't happen to be a wiki or info depot where there are recommended screen designs, would there? [25-Mar-25 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I'm looking at the PRO license and it says that it allows HQ upgrade past level 5, does that mean Free (and BASIC?) don't allow you to upgrade past Level 5? [25-Mar-25 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: correct [25-Mar-25 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: That's unfortunate [25-Mar-25 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Random Question that may or may not signify the birth of a long term goal for me to save up towards, how much is 1,499 EUR in USD? [25-Mar-25 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 1617 USD. you can just ask google to do currency conversions for you [25-Mar-25 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but also just buy a few months of PRO first :) [25-Mar-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I think by the time I've saved up for it, all 21 slots would be long gone, and I have no way of knowing how many are left (as far as I know of). [25-Mar-25 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: The DW deficiency is preventing me from making any DW fast enough... [26-Mar-25 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: PrunPlanner is a little difficult to wrap my head around [26-Mar-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: It's technically possible to day trade at the commodity exchange, right? [26-Mar-25 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klauz** joined.* [26-Mar-25 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klauz** left.* [26-Mar-25 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klauz** joined.* [26-Mar-25 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Yes would I recommend it? No. [26-Mar-25 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: it is possible but its not Eve Online, the prices don't go up and down fast. [26-Mar-25 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***moonload** joined.* [26-Mar-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: daytrading, yes, ... you'll see quite a few "market makers" in various products running both sides. It does however require significant capital. If the spreads are small, you don't make much and so need to make it up on volume. If they are large, the product only trades rarely. [26-Mar-25 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: as for one-sided trades (buy low, sell high) ... I think that would be difficult. There's just not that much volume/intra-day volatility, but I don't know. That's not really my wheelhouse (here or IRL). [26-Mar-25 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Musmus** joined.* [26-Mar-25 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mahmoudator** left.* [26-Mar-25 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ant_corp** joined.* [26-Mar-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: 68t shipping ad from BEN to Katoa posted on BEN's LM. [26-Mar-25 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Anyone else need some light hauling done from BEN to Katoa? 300/400 free. [26-Mar-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'll also be heading to ANT with a small ship, if anyone wants Katoa -> ANT or BEN -> ANT. [26-Mar-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Departing within the hour for BEN to Katoa, then to ANT will be later today. [26-Mar-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Just mapped out the production chains for essential and non-essential resources for pioneers, and there are a lot of materials required. [26-Mar-25 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'm not even trying to do that yet [26-Mar-25 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I just want to get to where I can stock up for multiple days on inputs and stop wasting fuel on half-empty ships :) [26-Mar-25 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: SF production is also something I'm aiming to do [26-Mar-25 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: My main goal is to not rely on the Commodity Exchange aside from exports to pay taxes [26-Mar-25 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I was trying to do that early on (it's been like a week?) but I wasn't making much. Got some advice and went making consumables and it's been much better. Once I get this up to speed, I will expand to start covering inputs too [26-Mar-25 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also I have a LM ad up for MFK.CI1 - half the ask, twice the bid. Here's hoping :) [26-Mar-25 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you! [26-Mar-25 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: some order books have so few orders that looking at the ask and bid prices don't really help you must. however, your price of 400 is right around the current average price (and a bit higher than the historical average), so you picked a good price to get the attention of sellers [26-Mar-25 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, thank you! Good to know my instincts are starting to figure things out. 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Got 20 up for 8k (400 PPU), delivery whenever I see the notification :) [27-Mar-25 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah fair, I got in last second before market flooded back up. 500 was nice while it lasted [27-Mar-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbeadbf787d** left.* [27-Mar-25 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody about to imminently fly BEN to KAT? [27-Mar-25 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have five small things to ship, totalling 100/200 ish [27-Mar-25 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I can take it [27-Mar-25 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thanks!! [27-Mar-25 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Let me sort it out.. [27-Mar-25 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Sure, no rush. [27-Mar-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay, just sent like.. six contracts [27-Mar-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hopefully I got them right [27-Mar-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Okay, looks like I have 5. [27-Mar-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh [27-Mar-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's right sorry [27-Mar-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Just making sure, accepting and loading now :) [27-Mar-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I was planning on 4h, that good? [27-Mar-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes :) [27-Mar-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: note that multi-item shipping contracts are now a thing :) [27-Mar-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes I couldn't work it out [27-Mar-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and when I clicked in the wrong place it all disappeared [27-Mar-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that is, unfortunately, a long-standing deficiency with the contract drafting system -- too easy to lose all your work [27-Mar-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ah I see the tiny "Add Commodity" button [27-Mar-25 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the non-obvious thing that you need to know is the "Price" field is *per commodity*. so if you set a price of 100 CIS and have 5 different commodities in the contract, the total pirce is 500 CIS [27-Mar-25 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so you can only choose one price to apply to every line item? [27-Mar-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So I have figure out "overall cost" and just divide it by the number of diff commodities and put that in the Price [27-Mar-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thanks for pointing that out haha [27-Mar-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah. i learned the hard way when i had to pay like 10x for my first multi-item shipping contract ;) [27-Mar-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap that's 100% what would have happened [27-Mar-25 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Too bad I can't make contracts like this for the LM! [27-Mar-25 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I would've sent an adjustment back, that's kinda awful. I've actually not drafted a contract yet. [27-Mar-25 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need to ship stuff KAT > BEN now, if anyone is going :) [27-Mar-25 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Now that I've worked out elegant shipping contracts [27-Mar-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: your life will be easier than CoffeeCup's ;) [27-Mar-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: My other ship is on the way to ANT sadly, so I won't be heading back to BEN until tomorrow [27-Mar-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: No worries! [27-Mar-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If nobody else wants it, we can arrange it now and I'll just long-date it? [27-Mar-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Need a lift? Call Gift Swift [27-Mar-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: this is like the 3rd time you mentioned something neke like 2 hours after my ship already left the place you need shipping :) [27-Mar-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Sure! Send it whenever if you need. And it's a usual route for me right now anyway, but still poke first just in case :) [27-Mar-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: @TheNegotiator keen for it [27-Mar-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oooh, there you go. [27-Mar-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Next time Eminence [27-Mar-25 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: The fuel usage slider is my current nemesis. [27-Mar-25 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It has been shit for the entire time I've played this [27-Mar-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's the absolute worst [27-Mar-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: part of the reasons I COLIQ'd was there was no fleet management capability AT ALL [27-Mar-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: managing 20+ ships was taking all my time [27-Mar-25 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not a problem now [27-Mar-25 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And to think, my first wish was to make a logistics company that made their own fuel. lol [27-Mar-25 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, if you're interested in logistics and want a little inspiration, open the LEAD command, select "Most ships" and then click "top ranks" [27-Mar-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: BOJ [27-Mar-25 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That's a heck of a fleet [27-Mar-25 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Wow!! [27-Mar-25 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I should never have COLIQ'd [27-Mar-25 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd be around the 30-40 mark hahaha [27-Mar-25 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Are there stats regarding fuel consumption and whatnot? Ideally in a timeseries format? [27-Mar-25 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what kind of stats are you looking for? [27-Mar-25 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Basically, I haven't been keeping track of what these trips are costing me, so I don't know how to factor that into my overall price. [27-Mar-25 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: well, you can easily see fuel amounts when you fire up the flight computer [27-Mar-25 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, wish I kept track in a spreadsheet. [27-Mar-25 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you make your own fuel (let's say at 10 CIS per SF) and most of your flights end up using about 200 SF fuel, then you know it's costing about 2000 CIS [27-Mar-25 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for ship repairs, i very roughly assume 4k CIS for each one percent damage [27-Mar-25 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh good to know [27-Mar-25 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: The FINIS command has line item in Expenses for Fuel Consumption [27-Mar-25 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 50k CIS for me last period [27-Mar-25 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 32K for me [27-Mar-25 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not sure how it's calculated though [27-Mar-25 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't know either [27-Mar-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've asked in Discord [27-Mar-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: 27k last period. But I did some very silly things. [27-Mar-25 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also thanks again neke, this is exactly what I was after. [27-Mar-25 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well let's figure out exactly what it means [27-Mar-25 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there is a also a "transport expenses" line item that i'm not really familiar with (maybe fuel costs + ship degredation?) [27-Mar-25 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'm pretty sure that's cost of shipping contracts [27-Mar-25 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Since I've been hauling and have "Transportation Revenue" [27-Mar-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, could be [27-Mar-25 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: last period it shows 60001 CIS in transport expenses. i did probably pay 30k for two shipments, but where does that extra 1 CIS come from? [27-Mar-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That looks like a rounding error [27-Mar-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Floating point math is hard. [27-Mar-25 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody selling C.CI1 locally on Katoa? 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(Not really how it works IRL. If people had to pay rent to store the stuff they're trying to sell, prices would could down.) [28-Mar-25 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: could=come [28-Mar-25 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Where should I build my C base? I grow GRN on Proxion, one candidate is Etherwind. I looked at benten-biogenesis but that would require additional materials and im not sure i would have enough workers there [28-Mar-25 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Tacotopia? see some hints here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [28-Mar-25 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I'll check it out [28-Mar-25 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: need 300/300 shipped from Katoa to BEN for 2500CIS. Posted on BEN's LM. [28-Mar-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Good morning! And yay shipping. [28-Mar-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: ETA 4h, right in time for my post-meeting break. lol [28-Mar-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xOtic132** joined.* [28-Mar-25 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: that was quick [28-Mar-25 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YoyoStelar** left.* [28-Mar-25 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: How do/did you earn CIS in the early stage? For taxes and expansion costs [28-Mar-25 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [28-Mar-25 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: @isherwood - yeah, was more timing it with my free time today than with expenses in mind. Worth a little spend to have more fun in a game. :) [28-Mar-25 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: @XtaleGaster - produce goods, sell at market, repeat, expand. [28-Mar-25 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want 18 FIM.CI1 @ 3600 CIS/u [28-Mar-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eric1359** joined.* [28-Mar-25 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaLLenSkiLL** left.* [28-Mar-25 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FaLLenSkiLL** joined.* [29-Mar-25 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MGP** left.* [29-Mar-25 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeremoph** joined.* [29-Mar-25 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***arcader** joined.* [29-Mar-25 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoomsDayB3ar** joined.* [29-Mar-25 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Need to ship something? Got space from Katoa > BEN, 450/450 free [29-Mar-25 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfeeaa6c4c2** left.* [29-Mar-25 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: @CoffeeCupMassacre sure, posted at BEN's LM [29-Mar-25 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you! Heading there now [29-Mar-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MVaniac** left.* [29-Mar-25 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cumin** joined.* [29-Mar-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8aca532944** left.* [29-Mar-25 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrKapow** joined.* [29-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dlrow**: @XtaleGaster Been there, lack of fund at starting is tough. If you want to skip the waiting game there are people offering loan, find at Discord UFO server, link at official PU sever #friends [29-Mar-25 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***darklight2367** left.* [29-Mar-25 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LockheedMartinGlazer** left.* [29-Mar-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EchoRomeo** joined.* [29-Mar-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Put up some ads for AL and MFK to keep me running until my shipments land. [29-Mar-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Katoa LM [29-Mar-25 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Said MFK earlier, then realized I was doing really dumb by using that recipe. SFW up now lol [29-Mar-25 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zonyer** left.* [29-Mar-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Took your contract for AL. [29-Mar-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you! [29-Mar-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm assuming you're doing manufacturing. Making EXO? [29-Mar-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yup. [29-Mar-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I just brought in a ton of AL myself for exactly that reason. [29-Mar-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Happy to share it around. [29-Mar-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And I can send you some SWF too. [29-Mar-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Give me a sec here. [29-Mar-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I was going to switch to the AL + OVE one [29-Mar-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sent [29-Mar-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you! [29-Mar-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Np. Getting going is rough. [29-Mar-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I wrote you in private. But you should check out the BEST Grant program. [29-Mar-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I submitted a base plan for it today actually [29-Mar-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Since you're new you'd qualify. It's 500,000 CIS or equivalent materials. [29-Mar-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Oh nice! [29-Mar-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah! I got some good advice from folks around here and managed to cobble something together. Need to go fix the recipe though [29-Mar-25 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. The recipes tend to vary in profitability. Sometimes the regular AL+OVE one is best, othertimes SWF+OVE+AL is best. [30-Mar-25 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neried** left.* [30-Mar-25 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eriiiik.666** joined.* [30-Mar-25 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: a Grant Program? [30-Mar-25 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1306705003263823965/1306705003263823965 [30-Mar-25 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, was going to say, it's a program and the information is in The UFO Discord. You can find it linked from the official Discord in the #friends channel [30-Mar-25 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: 450/450 free from BEN to Katoa if anyone has a mighty need for shipping. [30-Mar-25 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: check benten LM [30-Mar-25 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nblakey07** joined.* [30-Mar-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I should go visit the Wildlife Park here on Katoa. [30-Mar-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they have a nice giraffeant exhibit [30-Mar-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: just watch the spacegators, they bite. [30-Mar-25 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Imported space cows from the milky way galaxy [30-Mar-25 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anybody flying BEN>KAT soon and wanting a fare? [30-Mar-25 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Absolutely [30-Mar-25 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: 494t/480m3 free [31-Mar-25 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lord_Butxot** left.* [31-Mar-25 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Herta_SpaceStation** joined.* [31-Mar-25 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone want MCG? [31-Mar-25 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: link [31-Mar-25 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Morning [31-Mar-25 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: morning all [31-Mar-25 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Anyone need any shipping between Katoa and BEN? [31-Mar-25 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CNNIC** left.* [31-Mar-25 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: posted ... I also have ads posted for BEN->Gibson [31-Mar-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: hey guys [31-Mar-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: o/ [31-Mar-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh heck, that's an old habit, haha [31-Mar-25 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: Can I collect ammonia from atsmosohere by collector? [31-Mar-25 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: o/ :D Good habit to me [31-Mar-25 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: You can, and I was for a bit, but was told it's done so at a loss. So if you're selling it direct, not a good idea. If you're using it to make something else, it really depends what that cost is vs shipping it in yourself. [31-Mar-25 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I don't need AMM anymore, but yeah. AMM.CI1 vs what your consumables + production costs + depreciation (COGM) [31-Mar-25 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: I go refinery and I thought to build an extra building would be good for begining. I always buy amm by market. So I said it might be useful. [31-Mar-25 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: I am stuck at a bit [31-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: My last session, I used to metalurgy and it was quite easier than refinery [31-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Yes, fuel refining is a harder start [31-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I've heard fuel is difficult if you aren't at volume. [31-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: cuz refinery a bit challing as I understand according to other profession [31-Mar-25 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: yea [31-Mar-25 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: You can sell your fuel to me at 16 CIS/u if you wish [31-Mar-25 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: i'll buy it, as long as you are a newish player [31-Mar-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I would dump money on the CX but mostly its the whales who benefit from that so I'll just have newer players sell SF directly to me. I have enough capacity to distribute it to other CXs where its needed :) [31-Mar-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: I am counted as newish, yea. So I am not familiar with community trades. I don't have currently SF but have only FF amount of 582. [31-Mar-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I can't offer much, but I can do this to help, since you need PRO to do that. [31-Mar-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Pro is needed for trading outside of the CX [31-Mar-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Pro or Basic. [31-Mar-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, there's 7 days to see if it's worth it for you. [31-Mar-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And hey, the command worked this time :) [31-Mar-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Oh that's adorable, helping the newbies [31-Mar-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: heh, doing mah best [31-Mar-25 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: Uhmm I don't know. I don't think I'm gonna get pro license. I am quite handling my myself. thx tho. [31-Mar-25 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: by* [31-Mar-25 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Fair! I was thinking the same at first, but people are really nice here and there's a vested interest in helping new players. A game like this needs new blood to keep things playable. [31-Mar-25 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: yea yea my friend told that too. Community is helpful way so much. I also experince it. [31-Mar-25 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: That. We need new player retention. While we do have a steady and reliable player base, people do still leave, and is not a big enough game that big players leaving won't be felt [31-Mar-25 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: There is a vested interest yes, but I just love to help anyway ^_^ [31-Mar-25 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, I meant that in just a point of fact way. I've not felt like anyone is being helpful for alterior motives tbh [31-Mar-25 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: I just want to know if you have a suggestion for me to upgrade my refinery production line. [31-Mar-25 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: I don't know which way is the best way. [31-Mar-25 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: cuz I know if I do something wrong, everything gonna be upside down as economical :D [31-Mar-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: I suggest you look at https://www.prunplanner.org [31-Mar-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: there you can simulate your future base [31-Mar-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: expected inputs, outputs, profit, etc [31-Mar-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lubin.00**: thank you so much <3 [31-Mar-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: ^_^ [31-Mar-25 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Urbanim** joined.* [31-Mar-25 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smpcraft12345** joined.* [31-Mar-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Waps03** joined.* [31-Mar-25 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Multiple FIM.CI1 sells on the LM [31-Mar-25 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at 3200ppu, for delivery in 24 hours [31-Mar-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: accepted, ty [31-Mar-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Half tempted to tear down 2x BMP and 2x HB1 to help offset the cost of building a WPL and a HB2. It'd be scaling back, but I think it's what I might need to do here. [31-Mar-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: you should consider the BEST grant [31-Mar-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I have, just waiting I suppose. I figure I'm too new? Just approaching the 2 week mark. [31-Mar-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: yea i saw. But if you are very interested then why not [31-Mar-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: propose a plan, people will assist you improve your plan, and then you will be funded to make the base (upto 500k currently but apparently there are plans to increase this) [31-Mar-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I actually pasted the plans in the Discord already. I don't want to be a squeaky wheel though. [31-Mar-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Besides, this game teaches patience, no? :P [31-Mar-25 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: oh right [31-Mar-25 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Honestly, I'm rather glad for the wait. This situation has taught me how important some flexibility in one's production line is. [31-Mar-25 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Anyone need some BEN -> Katoa hauling? 470/470 free [31-Mar-25 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** deleted this message.* [31-Mar-25 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: haha, saw that. When I go between CX's, I do try to grab something that sells well both ways to fill space. I've just been spending a lot of cash on expansion though, which I need to stop doing. [31-Mar-25 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I use FIO's trade finder for it [31-Mar-25 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: another way to make profit with an idling ship is to do some CX arbitrage. For example, buy some FEO.CI1 and sell it at FEO.AI1 ... then buy AR.AI1 there and take it back and sell it at AR.CI1 [31-Mar-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I will take a look at that, though. Hopefully I'll be building new bases closer to ANT so it'll make the trip more meaningful [31-Mar-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: (I deleted and reposted because I think I got one of the legs wrong. I built my own spreadsheet using https://pct.fnar.net/fio/index.html for this) {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/fio/index.html FIO - PrUn Community Derived Information Using CSV Endpoints In Google Sheets All CSV endpoints supported can be found here. Using Public Data Endpoints Public data is data that isn’t user data. To use these, simply fill cell A1 on its own sheet (bottom-left tabs are β€œSheets”) with the following: =IMPORTDATA("https://rest.fnar.net/csv/prices") If you are using a different locale ... [31-Mar-25 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: also cb-282d always needs extra hauling... but this is usually a one way trip, so charge extra [31-Mar-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Bid for H on the LM at CB-282d and bring it back to make PE.CI1 instead :) [31-Mar-25 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i can give you some H for cheap to get started :) [31-Mar-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I feel bad for hauling that feo across cxs πŸ’€ [31-Mar-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: why? [31-Mar-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It can't have covered fuel [31-Mar-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: kinda depends on how fast the ship goes ... it's a 6k+ profit [31-Mar-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: for a 500/500 ship [31-Mar-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how long is the trip? [31-Mar-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I usually figure 36 or 48 hrs between BEN and ANT [31-Mar-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: (I time all my ships for a 12hr schedule) [31-Mar-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nice [31-Mar-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: same [31-Mar-25 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've posted a few small sell orders for small manufacturers at pricing favorable to the buyer :) [31-Mar-25 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: oi.. I just ate them all .. despite being what is probably medium-sized at this point [31-Mar-25 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes you have six bases and are nearly a year old you don't need my stuff LOL [31-Mar-25 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: YOU should be selling to ME! [31-Mar-25 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD [31-Mar-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah, like it's in good faith to help out the newer players, but if you go saying there are cheap deals on the lm, you cant really complain who buys them πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ [31-Mar-25 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I didn't complain, I was replying to him [31-Mar-25 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can always use the block function [31-Mar-25 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: anyone got some h2o to spare? put up a buy on the lm :) [31-Mar-25 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [31-Mar-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haidricx** left.* [31-Mar-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you! [31-Mar-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone for a BEN>KAT run? [31-Mar-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need stuff moved [31-Mar-25 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Still need stuff moved @neke86? [01-Apr-25 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I do! [01-Apr-25 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Awesome, just in time [01-Apr-25 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: let me write it up [01-Apr-25 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Alright, got it. Going to send this off then get some sleep. [01-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: anyone know why the uh, current increase in fuel prices around benten? [01-Apr-25 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sley** joined.* [01-Apr-25 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: It's been like that for like a week or so. [01-Apr-25 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bipiti99** joined.* [01-Apr-25 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7636dc3dff** left.* [01-Apr-25 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: What is the difference between FEO.CI1 and FEO.AI1, I'm not too familiar with the commands. [01-Apr-25 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: The only thing I can tell is the letter difference, though... looking at it, does it have to do with inter-faction trading? [01-Apr-25 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: trading/hauling [01-Apr-25 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: AI1 means FEO at Antares station, where it's trading for 185 martian coins... CI1 is here in benten, at 90 real coins [01-Apr-25 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Buy it here with 90 CIS, fly it to Antares, sell it for 185 monopolybucks [01-Apr-25 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: then buy 185 monobucks worth of stuff in Antares and fly it back here and sell it for even more CIS [01-Apr-25 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olaff** left.* [01-Apr-25 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AshfromSaunders** left.* [01-Apr-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Antares isn't a real place confirmed [01-Apr-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: in my defense I saw the LM ads before I saw the chat msg [01-Apr-25 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Good morning! [01-Apr-25 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Heading to BEN with some space free if y'all need a haul. Leaving in 15m on a 6h flight. 348/465 free. [01-Apr-25 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkaral** joined.* [01-Apr-25 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I'm running out of things on Katoa that needs shipping. Check out cb-282d though. There are currently 3 contracts of 35/500 @ 6000CIS to Katoa. [01-Apr-25 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ah, nothing else for me that way though, so don't think the trip would be worth it. I do want to get out there for some H sometime though [01-Apr-25 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: damn i knew this game was slow but not 16 hours slow [01-Apr-25 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: meh im used to it coming from EvE [01-Apr-25 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: selling 20 fe @ 700/u in LM. Need some WH space. [01-Apr-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: sold [01-Apr-25 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heilunzi** left.* [01-Apr-25 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Where is Antares? [01-Apr-25 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Currently looking for it on the universe map [01-Apr-25 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I think I found it, Orange Sector? [01-Apr-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: You can do `SYSI Antares I` or SYSI ZV-307 (it's ID) for more info on it [01-Apr-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep. here's a protip: open a buffer with the universe map (MU) and also for artares station (STNS ANT). now in the station buffer, hover your mouse over the "Address" and you'll see a little animated circle on the map highlighting the system [01-Apr-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: omg I didn't know this [01-Apr-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: That's fancy [01-Apr-25 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Does hauling materiels back and forth make enough for the fuel cost? [01-Apr-25 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: depends on the material. sometimes yes, sometimes no [01-Apr-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: someone mentioned FEO and AR [01-Apr-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I use https://fio.fnar.net/tradefinder to find trades like that when I need to hop between CX [01-Apr-25 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: FEO.CI1 vs FEO.AI1 and AR.CI1 vs AR.AI1 [01-Apr-25 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Keep in mind that without PRO, you can't exchange currencies like AIC.CIS - so you'll want to dump your AIC back into commodities to sell at BEN. [01-Apr-25 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: And to my understanding a pair of trades is done when hauling, as to not waste a flight [01-Apr-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, you'll want to do it both ways for that reason and the currency reason basically [01-Apr-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: But honestly, do the math [01-Apr-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: It is a bit far [01-Apr-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Use your ship to plot the course and give you the fuel consumption, look up the cost to you, and see if it's worth it [01-Apr-25 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Just don't send it on the way :) [01-Apr-25 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I hate math, but love this game, I don't know how. [01-Apr-25 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: it would take 124 units SF, 285 units/95% FF [01-Apr-25 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: on preset settings [01-Apr-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: SF.CI1 vs SF.AI1, FF.CI1 vs FF.AI1 [01-Apr-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Duration: 1 Day 2 Hours [01-Apr-25 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Unless my calculator skills are off, you'd need to move at least 87 units of FEO just to break even on the trip. [01-Apr-25 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And I didn't calculate the return [01-Apr-25 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I don't think I have enough CIS to afford that at the moment [01-Apr-25 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Nor likely the space to haul that much [01-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: 87 FEO is about 514t [01-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: ah [01-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: There are larger ships, right? [01-Apr-25 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh yes, you can upgrade or get new ships, but they're expensive. [01-Apr-25 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also 1d 2h sounds pretty fast, you can cut the speed down and save fuel [01-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: having done this arb trade for a while, it only works if you don't put the pedal to the metal on your ships. You've probably noticed that ETA follows an S-curve. Going fast is not very fuel efficient. [01-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Is it a feasible to buy H2O from the exchange and sell DW? while getting consumables from it as well? [01-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: It's something I've noticed while going between base and exchange [01-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: The easiest way to see something like that would be to explore prunplanner.org [01-Apr-25 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: https://prunplanner.org {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/ PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [01-Apr-25 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: You can plan out a base and see what the cost of goods manufactured (COGM) would be. [01-Apr-25 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I spend more time in there than I do on here tbh [01-Apr-25 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Two big pieces of advice I've received: Pay attention to what the COGC on your base's planet is set to. Katoa is Manufacturing. And the other is to try to own your inputs. It's not great to be dependent on the market for all inputs. It makes your COGM very much at the mercy of the market. [01-Apr-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And sometimes the market gives you the finger :D [01-Apr-25 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Need to disappear back to work. [01-Apr-25 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I currently have 2 rigs, and planning to build my second food processor [01-Apr-25 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: though the rig is a bit slow, I'm guessing resource extraction speed scales with resource availability [01-Apr-25 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: no, [speed] only scales with number of experts you have assigned to resource extraction [01-Apr-25 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: does the units per craft scale then? [01-Apr-25 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: no .. only to the time-to-finish-the-batch scales ... from 0% for 0 experts and up to 28% for 5 experts [01-Apr-25 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Etherwind is better for water, for a reason, right? [01-Apr-25 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so having experts assigned can often turn an otherwise unprofitable production line into a profitable one [01-Apr-25 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: So there is no difference between a rig here and on Etherwind? [01-Apr-25 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Is it that, for resource extraction, said resource just needs to have an availability on the planet?? [01-Apr-25 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Etherwind has more H2O available than Katoa [01-Apr-25 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so per unit of time, you'll get more H2O from Etherwind than Katoa (thus H2O is cheaper on Etherwind) [01-Apr-25 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: ah [01-Apr-25 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercb3a4bc019** left.* [01-Apr-25 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: did i make a mistake settling on a populated world? [01-Apr-25 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nope! [01-Apr-25 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Welcome to Katoa! [01-Apr-25 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa is a very popular "starting planet" [01-Apr-25 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: cool ty [01-Apr-25 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: have some stuff cooking [01-Apr-25 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: No? You'll never have to worry about your workforce numbers or planet upkeeps [01-Apr-25 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It's always good when you can come in, plop a full base down, and next POPR you are good to start [01-Apr-25 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deemo3501** joined.* [01-Apr-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chakki** joined.* [01-Apr-25 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I've never realy considered this but I might actually run out of Storage Space on Benten [01-Apr-25 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Oops maybe time to store resources in the CX. [01-Apr-25 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aracnai** left.* [01-Apr-25 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user90eb515f41** left.* [01-Apr-25 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for a very long time, my hub of operations was on katoa. i had a bunch of warehouses and stores. these days, my central hub is benten station and honestly i should have moved my hub there forever ago [01-Apr-25 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: thinking of doing the same [01-Apr-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: dont rig water here brothers and sisters [01-Apr-25 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreadlord** joined.* [01-Apr-25 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: indeed. it's temping because it's *right here under our feet* but it turns out that it will be cheaper to just buy it from the CX [01-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siinzy** joined.* [01-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bisloy** joined.* [01-Apr-25 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: currently a fuel producer [01-Apr-25 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: does the same apply for ingrediants like galerite, hydrogen ammonia? [01-Apr-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I think GAL is fine, not sure about AMM [01-Apr-25 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So yeah, GAL is OK but probably not AMM [01-Apr-25 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Seeing that you can buy it cheaply on the CX [01-Apr-25 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's because there are nearby gas giants that are more efficient for developed players to collect AMM/H from [01-Apr-25 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: UV-351d does AMM, and it's here in this system. [01-Apr-25 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CB-282d does H and is only four hops away. [01-Apr-25 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can buy AMM or H on the CX, but if you're a bit lucky and enterprising you can try renting a warehouse on those locations putting up a local market ad to purchase a shipment worth [01-Apr-25 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Arkaral you might find some useful info here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [01-Apr-25 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: thanks for the advice guys [02-Apr-25 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: is there a handy chart i can check to see the benefits of each luxury good for workforce efficiency? [02-Apr-25 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: vs just assigning experts [02-Apr-25 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***XtaleGaster** deleted this message.* [02-Apr-25 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: accidently deleted message [02-Apr-25 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: @neke86, retyping message, you mentioned not rigging water here, should I deconstruct my rigs, or keep them? [02-Apr-25 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Personally I would deconstruct them and buy water [02-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What are you using it for and how much do you need? [02-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I'm just currently making DW for my workforce [02-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: oh okay [02-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: new plan [02-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: buy DW [02-Apr-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Haven't gotten into any profit/expansion plans as of the moment [02-Apr-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So what is your base? [02-Apr-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You can DM me if you like [02-Apr-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I have 1 Food Proccessor, and should be level 1 [02-Apr-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You have 1 FP and nothing else? [02-Apr-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: There is a DM functionality? [02-Apr-25 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: 1 BMP, 1 FP and 2 Rig [02-Apr-25 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Go to the COM function on the left hand side, click NEW PRIVATE and then enter my name [02-Apr-25 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or click my name here [02-Apr-25 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and then click CONTACT USER [02-Apr-25 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Quite fancy this system is [02-Apr-25 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I just discovered that, uh, the things in the buffers and screens? Can be dragged between sections and buffers, and it leaves the command in the thing. [02-Apr-25 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I'm thinking of extracting AMM and GAL, while importing H, and produce SF in possibly 2 REFs. [02-Apr-25 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Thoughts? [02-Apr-25 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes, not a bad idea [02-Apr-25 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd potentially even import the AMM for a bit first [02-Apr-25 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: until you can work out exactly how much it will cost to collect your own [02-Apr-25 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Should I keep my BMP or should I deconstruct it? [02-Apr-25 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you are going to be a fuel refiner, deconstruct your BMP for now [02-Apr-25 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it has 100 pioneers in it, requires basically a whole HB1 for itself [02-Apr-25 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: my extractor and refinery are at 64% and 79% efficiency, is luxury goods the way to increase it? [02-Apr-25 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes [02-Apr-25 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: should i do both PWO or COF? or is there diminishing returns? [02-Apr-25 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Does travel time go up with cargo weight? [02-Apr-25 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Can cargo be moved between ships in orbit? [02-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Is it possible to use the orbits in order to save fuel? [02-Apr-25 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I disagree about demolishing BMP, it is versatile and can make pio consumables, and buying the ingredients and making it yourself is usually cheaper than making it yourself [02-Apr-25 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Plus, this planet is a Manufacturing CoCG, so it actually makes more sense to have the BMP here than the REF (not counting the fact this is the defacto fuel start) [02-Apr-25 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: if there's a 25% buff to manufacturing i think ill have to think about pivoting to that instead of going full on fuel production [02-Apr-25 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: PWO is always worth it, COF can be a bit pricey in the beginning though. Id say maybe on COF the first 2 months, then after always yes [02-Apr-25 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: ty [02-Apr-25 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah full fuel production is a rough and slow start, but you would be in good company. Plenty here make a LOT of fuel on this planet [02-Apr-25 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: i think ill have to maximize production for fuel from the setup i currently have [02-Apr-25 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: maybe get a few experts and then start focusing on a manufacturing related industry [02-Apr-25 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: you're almost certainly better off buying AMM than collecting it on Katoa. A collector might even run at a loss (it does by my calcs). This is presuming 0 experts assigned to resources. [02-Apr-25 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: yeah i figured from the low quantity her so i made a GAL extractor [02-Apr-25 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: by my calculations it's also a fair bit more profitable for me to produce STL than FTL per cycle [02-Apr-25 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: about 5k per 24 hours from a single refinery [02-Apr-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Morning [02-Apr-25 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Morning?? It's the afternoon!! :P lol [02-Apr-25 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ah, timezones. Imagine if we had to worry about *that* too. :P [02-Apr-25 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Feels so odd not running my ships all the time, but my wallet is sighing in relief. [02-Apr-25 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb90fc0c368** left.* [02-Apr-25 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: evening [02-Apr-25 09:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: at what point do i consider setting up more refineries or just doing a different profession? [02-Apr-25 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Have you poked at https://prunplanner.org at all? It would help you plan that very thing, including giving you the cost needed to construct the new buildings. {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/ PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [02-Apr-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I switched from fuel because I was warned it was slow in the start due to low volumes, that and Katoa's COGC is Manufacturing, not Fuel Refining or Resource Extraction. [02-Apr-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Not that you should switch, but it's a consideration [02-Apr-25 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also it depends a lot on what you want to do [02-Apr-25 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: do you want to produce as much fuel as possible, and make most of your money from selling fuel? or are you just trying to make enough fuel to cover your own usage? [02-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: probably the latter [02-Apr-25 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: thinking ahead, if you go the fuel route, feeding 6-8 REFs with starter ships is going to be an ongoing race [02-Apr-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: that said, you can make refining almost "shipping free" on Katoa. This is what I did for the first 6 months. It's not very profitable. Although things are much better these days with the cb282d operation up and going and H prices being around 95-110 instead of 125+ [02-Apr-25 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: ongoing race in what sense? [02-Apr-25 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: also i checked the planner it's preatty neat [02-Apr-25 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user32b69b450d** left.* [02-Apr-25 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: keeping the fuel base supplied while also being able send the ships elsewhere to e.g. other bases [02-Apr-25 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: e.g. a 5 expert REF making FF eats 45m3 per day. If you have 6 REFs, you need to have a beginner ship arriving every other day just to keep up [02-Apr-25 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Syiss**: isnt that a problem with any industry? you'll eventually reach a point where your starter shipping capacity cant keep up with your production... does it just happen faster with fuel production [02-Apr-25 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: You'd be looking at a max of 8,333 units of SF in a single starter ship. I don't know how that compares with other goods at the same production rate/weight/volume [02-Apr-25 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: The problem would be bringing in your mats probably [02-Apr-25 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Or not. I think it's just volume and how slow the profits really are at the beginning. Slapping down BMPs and just buying mats for PWO or OVE or whatever would probably net more per the same time/fuel spent on trips. I could be wrong tho, appreciate a correction if I am. [02-Apr-25 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: A useful way of looking at it is how much it costs to fill up the hull for a given recipe. According to my back of the envelope, it costs 73000CIS to fill a 500/500 with HE3 and H to make FF. Whereas it costs 310,000 ditto to make EXO out of OVE and AL. In most cases, the gross profit margin on various recipes is about the same and the operating profit margin is not far off from that. So this implies that you need to run your ships ~4x harder making FF compared to making EXO. More or less. For sure, this calculation can be more more precise, but that gives you an idea. [02-Apr-25 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: One good thing about SF/FF is that demand is steady and prices are quite stable and always >0 profitable. This is not the case for many BMP lines, so you have to pay more attention there. [02-Apr-25 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I could nuke the SF Price [02-Apr-25 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: For a Sizeable portion of time [02-Apr-25 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I do SF Refining on Kat but I don't sell any of it. [02-Apr-25 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: All just gets fed into the Warehouse on Benten [02-Apr-25 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Which I'm running out of space in. [02-Apr-25 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Syiss**: good plan, go nuke it at some other exchange tho lol [02-Apr-25 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Heheh [02-Apr-25 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Nuking the price does nothing for me currently so its safe. [02-Apr-25 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I might put 500K of it up as an upperband at somepoint. [02-Apr-25 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: COF price is the one needing a nuke [02-Apr-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hahah [02-Apr-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: COF's a pain in the ass to lower [02-Apr-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: RIP Rubicate. [02-Apr-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9505be6c5a** left.* [02-Apr-25 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Someone took credit for cornering the COF market in UFO Discord. I'm just hoping they get bored lol [02-Apr-25 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thankfully, I'm at the point where 10 lasts me a week or so [02-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also remember, you can't have too much EXO!* Buy on the LM today! (*this statement may not be factual or accurate) [02-Apr-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I looked for an answer everywhere except UFO [02-Apr-25 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Bout to set off between BEN and Katoa, 6h trips with space to spare. Let me know if you need anything hauled. [02-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: it's said isherwood is typing for the last hour :P [02-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also should I be thinking about a corp at this state? [02-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: *stage [02-Apr-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: up to you :) [02-Apr-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok maybe that answer wasn't very helpful [02-Apr-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: here's another unhelpful answer: if you feel like joining a corp, it's never too early or too late to start looking [02-Apr-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You don't need a corp to get big [02-Apr-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (just FYI) [02-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I played my last round in a two-person corp [02-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for a lot of people, this game is a very social game, and being in a corp can just elevate that [02-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You build relationships with whoever, wherever etc [02-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah I still worked with about a dozen people [02-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but it meant I could cross corp-lines easily [02-Apr-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Depends on the corp though [02-Apr-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: there's several good ones that probably won't lock you into much etc [02-Apr-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: different corps sometimes have different vibes, and so maybe one of them happens to match your own vibe [02-Apr-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and of course you can create your own corporation too, if you want [02-Apr-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Or join my band of mercantile independents :) [02-Apr-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: So yeah, the social aspect is key. As well as the vibe. As for big, I'm making a profit. That's big to me. lol [02-Apr-25 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: becoming 'a big player' is kinda vague, so i don't really like talking about "bigness" when chatting with new players [02-Apr-25 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: My only fears about joining would be my mistakes impacting others, and not having control over things. I don't want my time in the game determined by someone else. [02-Apr-25 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: instead, i like talking about concrete goals [02-Apr-25 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: could be big goals like "i want to make my own ships" or could be small goals like "i want to make my own DW and RAT" [02-Apr-25 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I want to make COF :) [02-Apr-25 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: fantastic, the world always needs coffee [02-Apr-25 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: It's kinda why I've gone the route I did. Not making it yet, no. But the places I want to put bases would support it well once I get to where I can just drop the investment. [02-Apr-25 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: For now, I just want to focus on making enough to continue growing. [02-Apr-25 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: btw, don't worry about making mistakes in a corp. when you join a corp, you'll join a bunch of people who can offer advice and suggestions [02-Apr-25 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and while i can't speak for everyone, i feel very very confident that no one would blame you for making a mistake (heck, i'm not even sure what that would mean in this game) [02-Apr-25 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I mean, needing to get bailed out or COLIQ is the worst next to outright piracy. [02-Apr-25 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'd have done that already if it wasn't for a few people who helped out [02-Apr-25 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ok well yes, you could make a bunch of very unprofitable decisions and need a bailout [02-Apr-25 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but that's pretty rare [02-Apr-25 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I think I got those out of my system. [02-Apr-25 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and like... at your account age, there's nothing you can do that can't be fixed with a few thousand or tens of thousands of dollars [02-Apr-25 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which is a very small amount of money to big established players [02-Apr-25 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Fair [02-Apr-25 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i just bought 250k worth of stuff today, and wouldn't think twice about sendign 25k to someone who's stuck. it's well worth it to me to have other players having fun and not getting stuck [02-Apr-25 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I do worry I'm reinvesting too much, too quickly [02-Apr-25 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I try to keep 20k liquid at this point [02-Apr-25 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: The rest goes into building materials and inputs [02-Apr-25 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That won't be a problem, unless I quit, I'll have PRO [02-Apr-25 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And I don't forsee quitting. I may scale back the time I spend staring at APEX, but it's so shiny and new right now, it's hard to look away. [02-Apr-25 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah i hear that [02-Apr-25 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: UFO probably the best place to hunt for a corp? [02-Apr-25 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: don't get burnt out. enjoy the ride, enjoy the vibe [02-Apr-25 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, there's a "recuritment" channel on the UFO discord [02-Apr-25 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ah found it, thanks. [02-Apr-25 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And yeah, like I think I said earlier, it's become pretty obvious that rushing this game just costs more money. lol [02-Apr-25 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 180 units of FIM.CI1 coming to market in 26 hours, happy to sell them locally. If you'd like some, please reach out to negotiate a quantity and price. [02-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: delicious [02-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: They really need to support adverts like that on the LM [02-Apr-25 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also hey neke, how's things? [02-Apr-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Things are good [02-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Construction COGC is for building mats, yeah? [02-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: squandered a bunch of money in a base rebuild but it's humming alon now [02-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes it is [02-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Cool, was thinking of hunting for one to post up LM ads for my building supplies, something you made me think about lol [02-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Just need to make sure it's not too far away or the fuel would kill any savings [02-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: How much fuel do you use per flight cod [02-Apr-25 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Coffee* [02-Apr-25 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What building supplies? [02-Apr-25 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I was doing 3h flights, aiming for 12hr now. So I was burning like 5-6k on trips one-way to BEN or Kat. And I need 8 BBH and 8 BSE. But I'll need more for future expansions. [02-Apr-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: make sure your fuel and relative repair costs are factored in as a % of the cargo value [02-Apr-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you're shipping 600K of stuff, sure, burn a few K [02-Apr-25 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, I do that now basically [02-Apr-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: I'll typically do low burn flights, but also tweak the timings to better align with when I'm likely to dip into the game. [02-Apr-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: 12 hour flights at 9am/9pm work well for my schedule. Also, I was able to go 24hr without running my ships, so that saved some change :) [02-Apr-25 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sitaltan52** joined.* [02-Apr-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rick.hart** joined.* [02-Apr-25 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Thinking about it, I think I chose Katoa at random... [02-Apr-25 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Entropy is the best decision-maker [03-Apr-25 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: I came expecting fuel making bonuses ... yeah. [03-Apr-25 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mulliken** joined.* [03-Apr-25 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayTheMerc** joined.* [03-Apr-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***baaleze** left.* [03-Apr-25 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercce561fcc1** left.* [03-Apr-25 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Katoa has been a manufacturing planet for as long a I have been playing. [03-Apr-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: if katoa had a 25% fuel refining bonus, BEN SF prices would be like 9-10 CIS [03-Apr-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: When I started it was 7 and 9. Players just keep wanting more and more. [03-Apr-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: If there was a 25% bonus it would change nothing. [03-Apr-25 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also katoa has fantastic access to the CX, has decent GAL on planet, and has good access to AMM in-system (though bio bases are a little expensive) [03-Apr-25 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's not surprising to me that it remains a strong fuel-producing planet, despite not having a fuel cogc program [03-Apr-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Katoa getting the CoGC boost will be catastrophic for the SF market i think. Maybe not in the short term but definitely in the long term [03-Apr-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: (for fuel refining) [03-Apr-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think that might be the wrong way to look at it [03-Apr-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: instead ask: what happens if katoa loses its manufacturing bonus? [03-Apr-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Yes that will be catastrophic for manufacturing too as prices soar [03-Apr-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SchuhSchuessel0** joined.* [03-Apr-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SchuhSchuessel0**: Seid gegrüßt [03-Apr-25 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I think the point is that the game guides you to Katoa (and a few others I can't remember) as a fuel engineer. It does feel bait-and-switch to lock into that only to find out the COGC isn't fuel-related at all. Especially when vet players tell you it isn't worth doing. Then why is it offered? [03-Apr-25 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: It's about the only "bad" feeling I've really had playing this game, but I'm not new to player-driven games. So it makes sense to me, but may not others who don't understand that. [03-Apr-25 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I don't even know if you can look at the COCG for your starter planet, and I can't go make a new account to check ;) I just remember my partner registering and they couldn't click on the COCG line in the planet's description. [03-Apr-25 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: why do you think it's a bait and switch? the guide even talks about why katoa has a manufacturing cogc [03-Apr-25 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Why recommend it for fuel? [03-Apr-25 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Why not recommend a fuel COCG? [03-Apr-25 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And I don't recall that, which guide? [03-Apr-25 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I may have absolutely missed it as my eyes glazed over at first. So that's on me. [03-Apr-25 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I feel myself perfectly fine starting on katoa as a fuel engineer. [03-Apr-25 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, sorry, i misread you. yes, the game itself goes recommend kata has a starter planet for a fuel-refining profession [03-Apr-25 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: because it's a good planet to be on [03-Apr-25 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: It is fine to do. But day 3 I had someone telling me I made a terrible mistake because it wasn't manufacturing. [03-Apr-25 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: who told you that? i don't think they were giving you good advice [03-Apr-25 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Someone I've never seen in this chat actually [03-Apr-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And I do feel it was poor advice at best now, yes. [03-Apr-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Probably why I struggled so much at the start. Tearing everything down to start over. [03-Apr-25 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Back to the point though, why wouldn't the game recommend or point out the COGC for your given profession? [03-Apr-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Either COGC isn't something to focus on at first, which is how I've kinda come to see it, or the game should put more emphasis on pairing well right off. [03-Apr-25 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i actually think an important lesson to learn on katoa is that you can be profitable and successful even when your production does not match the cogc [03-Apr-25 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yes. I agree 100% [03-Apr-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i actually get worried that new players might think that they must match the cogc program, and i don't think that's right [03-Apr-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: moreover, having the manufacturing cogc on katoa means that you have another really solid industry to pivot into, if you want. this just makes katoa even better in my opinion [03-Apr-25 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Like, fuel refining here *isn't* "inefficient" - farming is technically, because of the lower fertility but even that isn't bad. You just don't get the *bonus* - yet this is one of those debates I hate. lol [03-Apr-25 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: i.e. is getting 10% bonus a bonus or -10% for everything not given a bonus. [03-Apr-25 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I call bs on the latter. lol [03-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: On a less ranty topic, I've reached the point where I can finally kick back and let things just run for a few days. [03-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nice [03-Apr-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Another thing to point out is that fuel refining is a rather niche thing in comparison to other industries; only one building for the CoCG. There has been player discussion on moving REF into a Chemistry profession and dropping fuel refining as a separate thing all together. This would make much more sense in game, and you might even see Katoa pivot to a Chem CoCG [03-Apr-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Makes me wonder if people would change Umbra or we would just have 2 Chem planets in system. With the growing need of BTS > W that honestly might be a maybe [03-Apr-25 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have a hard time seeing umbra switching cogc [03-Apr-25 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Oh yeah, though I am sure people would be fine getting another all green Chem bases [03-Apr-25 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you're right to point out that fuel refining only has 1 production building. but i'm not sure it's fair to call it niche. 1 million units of fuel was traded at benten station in the past week alone [03-Apr-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: i read niche as outlier [03-Apr-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean niche within the context of divesting an entire planet for a single building. Even Agriculture has 3 [03-Apr-25 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: yeah, I honestly didn't know it only had 1 building, so it would be absolutely silly to dedicate a planet like katoa to refining. [03-Apr-25 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Now what. [03-Apr-25 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Step 3. Profit [03-Apr-25 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I came up with this and can't get it out of my head: Here I am, broke as hell, waiting for my shit to sell. lol [03-Apr-25 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: This game tends to find a lot of people who either play it 5-15 minutes at a time 2-3 times a day, or people who work on spreadsheets to fill the time, or other things related to the game [03-Apr-25 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: There are a few people who do web application add-ons for this game. Have you tried RPrUn yet? [03-Apr-25 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_raj.ee** joined.* [03-Apr-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'm currently poking at the RefinedPrun source atm [03-Apr-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Never done a browser extension, figured this would be a great way to learn [03-Apr-25 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: My target: Make a better fuel slider/field. haha [03-Apr-25 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ideally, I'd just like to type in a standard human-readable timestamp (6h30m20s) and have it figure out the fuel percentage. [03-Apr-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Or just... something more sane than that damnable slider [03-Apr-25 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah an input box would be nice. Pro tip from me, keep most of your fuel in your cargo bay. Like for SSL (small STL fuel hold) max it holds is 1500SF, but I keep only 200 at a time and the rest in my cargo bay (it only takes up 78/78 max). The difference within that range is like a couple hours, so usually I'll have my ships do like max 2 things a day, usually on 24h flights [03-Apr-25 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I've stopped running both ships. I only need the one now, unless I err [03-Apr-25 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Just makes more sense at the moment for me. Less repair costs and fuel [03-Apr-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Correct [03-Apr-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Curious about the cargo hold for fuel, is that just so the slider is less wonky? [03-Apr-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I noticed the less I have, the more fine the control is [03-Apr-25 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I've considered poking at the runs I see between BEN and Biogenesis and Umbra. Also the LMs have some deals on there to be made, but I still need to plan that out and see if it's worth it. [03-Apr-25 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah, just throw most of your fuel in your cargo. Fuel consumption to speed kinda follows an S curve. You don't want bare minimum, but after a certain amount it's not worth putting more fuel in (I cut the number at 200, but you are welcome to play around and find whats good for you) [03-Apr-25 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: remember that the planets move in a system. so travel times other benten planets (biogenesis and umbra) will change pretty drastically [03-Apr-25 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Every ~30d Katoa will go from being as close as it can be to BEN to as farthest it can be, and then another ~30d back [03-Apr-25 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaddogMcGhee** joined.* [03-Apr-25 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: We have another ~10 days before we are at farthest point and we start getting closer again [03-Apr-25 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Em.Ze** joined.* [03-Apr-25 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lilrebel** joined.* [03-Apr-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bajoli** joined.* [03-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, I was actually curious if that data is in any payloads that I can snag [03-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'd love to do some kind of hauling calculator based on current fuel prices, distances, and time. [03-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Just to make it easier to determine if a haul is even worth picking up [03-Apr-25 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Goodness, that would mean that if you wanted to minimize hauling expenses, you'd time your runs based on the planet's cycle around the system's primary... [03-Apr-25 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: This game continues to blow my mind [03-Apr-25 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: For STL trips, yeah. [03-Apr-25 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Difference can be huge. [03-Apr-25 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: A trip to Biogenesis from BEN can take anywhere between 2 days and 6 hours. [03-Apr-25 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm just guessing, but the numbers aren't far off from reality. [03-Apr-25 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Do you gain access to anything later on to reduce that, or is it more just planning and logistics? [03-Apr-25 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you can burn a whole bunch of fuel if you want to make the trip quicker [03-Apr-25 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i never do, though [03-Apr-25 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You can put fancy engines and g-seats in your ships [03-Apr-25 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: burn tons of fuel and make the trip in an hour haha [03-Apr-25 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I've just heard that the game is slow "at the start" and was curious how it speeds up. Just the sheer mass of your empire? [03-Apr-25 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [03-Apr-25 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: instead of waiting on 1 production line, you now have 50 production lines [03-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And in stead of 2 ships carrying 500t/m each, you've got 20 carrying 2000t/m each [03-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I get it. So basically, since it seems you could easily hit a point and stop growing, you can basically choose your own speed. Eventually. [03-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for example, i make fuel on katoa, but i only pick it up every week or so. the rest of the time i'm flying to other bases [03-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well. The limiting factor at that point is the cost of permits [03-Apr-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: They become prohibitively expensive [03-Apr-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Well yeah. I mean if I found say 3 bases to be enough to manage for a while, the game won't punish me for stopping. [03-Apr-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Up to HQ20 it's acceptable. [03-Apr-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No, the game won't punish you unless you count less money as punishment. [03-Apr-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Fewer bases = less income [03-Apr-25 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ah, true. At that point I suppose it depends on what you're playing for. I like to build things, wrap my head around mechanics, the money in this case is just my current score. [03-Apr-25 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Fastest route isn't my goal [03-Apr-25 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sounds like a nice playstyle tbh. [03-Apr-25 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah, just enjoy the game. [03-Apr-25 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Figure out the ins and out, the opportunities available to you. [03-Apr-25 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I think I want to spend more time studying the logistics mechanics. Prunplanner doesn't really account for that. [03-Apr-25 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Or I haven't found it. There's a lot of features. [03-Apr-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: In what sense? [03-Apr-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Well, in the sense of it's going to cost so much money to move goods between bases. Even the interval of the trips factors into that. [03-Apr-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And when you have variables like planetary alignment lol [03-Apr-25 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I just think it's neat. [03-Apr-25 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: People have been trying to figure out the exact numbers for ages. Nobody can crack it. Feel free to dig into it though. The game offers information on solar mass, various information on the planets I believe like semi major axis. [03-Apr-25 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I just drag my sliders and press the big green button. [03-Apr-25 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Burn my hydrocarbons and fission pellets and call it a day. [03-Apr-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I've just always dreamed of building something a fraction of this. lol [03-Apr-25 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh, how far low should I let my ships go? 90% [03-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: under 80% they start to slow down [03-Apr-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: ^^ [03-Apr-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: So 80% is a good place to do repairs. [03-Apr-25 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thank you! [03-Apr-25 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***moonload** left.* [03-Apr-25 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm getting close to my repair time [03-Apr-25 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: My main hauler is at 93% - I might just do it at 90 unless it's cheaper overall to wait. [03-Apr-25 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Don't want to goof up and not be able to repair before 80 [03-Apr-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user740f71eba1** left.* [03-Apr-25 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: start saving for the repairs! [03-Apr-25 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: everyone needs a little BSE or two or two hundred in their repair store room :D [03-Apr-25 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm sitting around 370BSE needed, lots of RIG and EXT [03-Apr-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Do repair costs go up depending on the %? [03-Apr-25 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the worse the building is degredated, the more repair materials you need [03-Apr-25 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: As time goes no more MATs are required to repair, MCG increases by the day. and then at intervals MATs like BSE will increase. [03-Apr-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can help with MCG locally btw [03-Apr-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For small repairers :) [03-Apr-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Please tell me that someone has written down all the %'s where additional units of materials (not MCG) are triggered :D [03-Apr-25 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: all the ugly details are here (and they are ugly, if you click through to the linked spreadsheet) https://pct.fnar.net/building-degradation/index.html {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/building-degradation/index.html Building Degradation - PrUn Community Derived Information Condition Formula Condition = 0.67 / (1 + e^((1789/25000) * (DaysSinceLastRepair - C))) + 0.33 C is either 100.87 or 107.87. There is speculation that the additional 7 days for C is a bug as it happens inconsistently. Repair costs and reclaimables Repair cost is determined by: RepairCost = BuildingCost - ReclaimableCost ReclaimableCost is determ... [03-Apr-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: HOLD UP, i have this [03-Apr-25 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ELsfw4ii1hQFWDd-BL4JzwqHc-wGVXbJtvAeprv0pZ0/htmlview {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ELsfw4ii1hQFWDd-BL4JzwqHc-wGVXbJtvAeprv0pZ0/htmlview PrUn repair guide https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YyaRdMrlXifTGXrLBsC1kjVF7EL1RNMju63cwllkQs4/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyJErSUgUIcdX8ZQ76u0STXKSHzIAJG-XVTAWADkEqODM2EsgZcPJ2oLdGCPiQZw7N5fiGWxUtnJaZ5Y2QUbc-OOh5bq-Haf78FjImgYLE_xuO6GhO_R%3Dw1200-h630-p [03-Apr-25 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Ah well, yours has the doc too, but with an extra step [03-Apr-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: That is beautiful. Well done community! [03-Apr-25 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: anyone want some OVE? [03-Apr-25 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a pallet of the stuff here [03-Apr-25 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: For freeeeee? [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I have 20 RCO I can trade you. [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: For you [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: special deal [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 200/u [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That's so very generous [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I don't even know what to say. [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hahaha [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: your silence says it all [03-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Dont need RCO thank you [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You so know what a SilentReaper does when he is silent don't you? [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: he reaps [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: reaps cotton [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: for these sick overalls [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: -pats pallet- [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: good job, brownie points to you and your smart smart brain cells [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: hahaha [03-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got 1.500 units here for you and your empire, 99/u [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: https://imgur.com/a/9xmyZQb {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/9xmyZQb Untitled Album https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/btjlpTjZWwyipZmmqg-LuxwFp-s0I6cTFCjeCb66bWc/https/i.imgur.com/FdYPEvOh.jpg [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That's alright. Appreciate it though. [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Happy to trade you though to help you out. [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Got 357 COT on Katoa. [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 15,000 OVE? [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But come on [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that is the cheap stuff [03-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm selling the good stuff [03-Apr-25 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hahah [03-Apr-25 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: My filthy OVEs made with raw cotten. [03-Apr-25 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Where as your preem stuff [03-Apr-25 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Made out of the real processed cotton ey? [03-Apr-25 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No but for real. If you want the trade, I'd be happy to help you out. [03-Apr-25 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not especially haha, I can fly it up to the CX today [03-Apr-25 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just try and offer to the locals first [03-Apr-25 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the fuel refiners [03-Apr-25 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sure. Fair enough :) [03-Apr-25 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Fuel refiners need dem overalls [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I can almost guarantee that 85% of the universe's fuel production happens in BEN [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Between JS-601e and Katoa [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And you can't make fuel without Overalls [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: it's just not right [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Naked fuel refiners? [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Cannot allow it [03-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is it worth doing the PG/COT > OVE? [03-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Surely not? [03-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Uncaffeinated ones though? Maybe when times are rough. [03-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Depends. [03-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Wouldn't be worth me setting up a POL and WPL [03-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It's what we use in FIOC because we don't care about the $$$. We want production baby [03-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah fair enough [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got full vertical integration on the RCO+PE so that's optimal for me [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. It's a great combo early on. [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What are you selling RCO for [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm not [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well then [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I just saw you were trying to sell your OVE, thought I'd help out if I could [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can [03-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Can't give this stuff away [03-Apr-25 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Guess I'll have to fly it to market and make a profit instead [03-Apr-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You'll make more that way anyways. [03-Apr-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It's selling for 130/u on BEN [03-Apr-25 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've got 1590 RCO getting mouldy in my benten station warehouse [03-Apr-25 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And I wasn't looking to grab it off ya for free haha. We don't really need OVE. The 15k I have is only the little bit we keep on BEN. I think we have like another 40k on ANT [03-Apr-25 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Wooow. 1590 RCO? [03-Apr-25 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: What are you doing with so much RCO haha [03-Apr-25 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: With a 20d old company. [03-Apr-25 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You leverage your clout as the OG gov of Katoa to get people to send you free shit? hahaha [03-Apr-25 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my company is most certainly not 20 days old :) [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Ooooh [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Balls [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I didn't see that was you writing eminence haha [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm sneaking into ur cats [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i mean chats [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe also cats [03-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: That went from criminal to sneaky in half a second there haha [03-Apr-25 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: "Get out of my cats you filthy cat enterer" [03-Apr-25 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but neke's got that nice green color in chat, and i'm a peasent in a white color, not sure how you confused us :) [03-Apr-25 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: What if I told you I'm color blind? [03-Apr-25 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: weak execuse [03-Apr-25 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have benefactors :) [03-Apr-25 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I already have a 2/2 ship and two 1,000 bases :) [03-Apr-25 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: It's okay, I'm no actually color blind. I just wanted to make you feel bad for bashing a disabled person [03-Apr-25 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Apparently Castillo-Ito Director of Coordination wants OVE. lol [03-Apr-25 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Well would you like any? I have a sizeable amount on BEN I'd be happy to share. [03-Apr-25 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Gotta keep those directors happy [03-Apr-25 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why hoarding 40K OVE though? [03-Apr-25 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Why not lower the prices? [03-Apr-25 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We don't interact with the market. That's to supply all of our bases in BEN and ANT. [03-Apr-25 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: The pay works out to 139 for OVE.CI1 [03-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And I have plenty so. sure [03-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You flying to BEN @coffeecupmassacre [03-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Nice. two click 8k [03-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Not until tomorrow now. [03-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ack [03-Apr-25 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I wouldn't mind making a run, could pick up more inputs [03-Apr-25 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: neke, do you ever list your shipping needs on LMs? [03-Apr-25 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes eventually :) [03-Apr-25 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but coffee flys most of my stuff [03-Apr-25 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: cool, just wondering if i should keep an eye out as i fly around benten [03-Apr-25 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: okay well I'll post one [03-Apr-25 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i don't usually check LMs, there's almost never shipping ads there [03-Apr-25 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I always have the LMs open :) [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: If you don't mind a longer flight than my usual burn. 6hr instead of 3 lol [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 6-7 is fine :) [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Sweet [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or even longer actually [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: <14hr max pls [03-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: either under 6 or under 14 :D [03-Apr-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: gotta line it up with wake-up time or bed-time :) [03-Apr-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That's what I was trying to do, but I forgot you're supposed to get 8 hours ;) [03-Apr-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ad posted [03-Apr-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: off for a bit [03-Apr-25 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: @neke86 it didn't provision yet [03-Apr-25 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: how do faction reputation points help? [03-Apr-25 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: Coffee -- are you making a Kat -> Ben run tonight? [03-Apr-25 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: @Arkaral they're mostly useless, but in theory the more reputation points you get, the more valuable faction contracts you get [03-Apr-25 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yeah, doing Kat -> Ben, aiming to arrive in 9-12hrs (by my wake-up time:D) [03-Apr-25 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: still have time for me to send you a conttract? [03-Apr-25 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Well, I'm waiting for neke now. I accepted the contract but it's pending on provisioning. [03-Apr-25 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i was a potatobrain and fly to katoa specifically to move something to benten and then i left katao without doing that [03-Apr-25 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: If you don't mind getting it by say 9am eastern US time [03-Apr-25 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's perfect [03-Apr-25 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Sure, let me figure out how much free I have real quick [03-Apr-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think you can fit this :) [03-Apr-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Unless it's smallish- ah okay :) [03-Apr-25 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 33 DIS totally 0.66 tons [03-Apr-25 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Awesome! Got it :) [03-Apr-25 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Catix01** left.* [03-Apr-25 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Anyone else need something hauled Katoa -> BEN? [04-Apr-25 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Is something like that handled via contracts? And is such service paid or free? I imagine that it would depend on the person, but that is just my assumption... [04-Apr-25 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: It is through contracts. If someone has extra space I'm sure they'd do it for free. [04-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Does cargo amount effect fuel cost or travel time at all? [04-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I have a discord server full of new players who do shipping contracts, but they get paid for it. [04-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Sounds nice [04-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Yes it does. I recommend checking out the BLU command and playing around with the ship simulator sliders. [04-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: May be fun for you. [04-Apr-25 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: That's alot of drop menus [04-Apr-25 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: In the top right of that buffer is the flight simulator [04-Apr-25 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: When you make a purchase at the exchange without a docked ship, does the item get stored as a contract? [04-Apr-25 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I just realized the other day, that I would also need to supply the settlers for refining fuel, as well as build habitation for them [04-Apr-25 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cardisje3** left.* [04-Apr-25 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ant_corp** left.* [04-Apr-25 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: The CX you mean? It gets stored in it's warehouse. In fact, for me it never offloads onto the ship's cargo, even if I pick the option. [04-Apr-25 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: If you don't have enough space - yes, it will be left hanging until you can pick it up. [04-Apr-25 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: For settlers - yes, you'll have to build houses and feed them. But with 10 refineries feeding and sheltering 1k+ pioneers is more of a headache. [04-Apr-25 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alpinelord** joined.* [04-Apr-25 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: I need to probably move my fuel refining somewhere at somepoint but for now I run 26 Refs. [04-Apr-25 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userea4199c056** left.* [04-Apr-25 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***greenbull469** left.* [04-Apr-25 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: shipping ad from Katoa to BEN posted on BEN's LM [04-Apr-25 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I'm kind of afraid of stepping into 10+ refs territory. Mainly because of fear I wouldn't be able to supply those [04-Apr-25 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Cause for now I'm also supplying GAL for myself with extractors. [04-Apr-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: And both ships are stil basic ships. [04-Apr-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you calculated how much H/GAL/AMM you need per day at 10+ refs? [04-Apr-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lanteanboy** left.* [04-Apr-25 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** joined.* [04-Apr-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: it's 1/2/3 for AMM/GAL/H accordingly so around 70/140/210. Atm I have 8 extractors producing roughly 144 GAL/day, and I buy AMM and H from CXL or LM contracts, including yours'. [04-Apr-25 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: So going further will increase demand in GAL, pioneers, houses for them, upkeep. Hence why I'm staggering and thinking about the second base rather than going full throttle with this one. [04-Apr-25 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: is there a penalty for failing contracts? [04-Apr-25 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: faction ones in particular [04-Apr-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Curious about this myself [04-Apr-25 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you will lose a tiny bit of faction reputation (which doesn't matter) [04-Apr-25 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: as far as i know, it doesn't impact your overall rating (but someone please double-check me on this) [04-Apr-25 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Thanks! [04-Apr-25 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: ty [04-Apr-25 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: You lose double the faction rep you would gain from it, but I don't know that it impacts your rating. [04-Apr-25 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Faction rep is for all intents and purposes useless. There's some folks saying that the contracts get better with higher faction rep, but I haven't been able to tell whether that is that case or if it is just a side-effect of progression otherwise. I suspect what contracts you are issued (for instance what you can be expected to produce for provisioning) is determined by other things. [04-Apr-25 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Obelisk-01** joined.* [04-Apr-25 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've posted "E" (emergency) rations on the LM on a 1-day fulfillment and 30-day ad which I will endeavour to keep available for anybody who finds themselves suddenly short [04-Apr-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user46cd5efd06** left.* [04-Apr-25 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: thanks! [04-Apr-25 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdaaa87b2d7** left.* [04-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Oh, those are emergency... [04-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Whoops [04-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: unsure whether i should go further into fuel or start pivoting to manufacturing [04-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: still have the 1 GAL extractor 1 refinery [04-Apr-25 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Up to you, both ways are good. [04-Apr-25 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: "emergency" rations are generally priced higher than the normal market. you can buy them even in non-emergencies, if you're OK with the higher price :) [04-Apr-25 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've placed it a little higher this time [04-Apr-25 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: not extortionately so :) [04-Apr-25 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If people buy them in the interim I'll simply replace it [05-Apr-25 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I mean, it was like 1 CIS higher so I took it. Not that I'm in any emergency but the consumption is quite high already so why not. [05-Apr-25 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: The Opportunistℒ️ [05-Apr-25 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Morning, what be on everyone's plate at the moment? [05-Apr-25 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: delicious FIM [05-Apr-25 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DJ101997** joined.* [05-Apr-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: just the usual [05-Apr-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: waiting for my transport to fill so i can do some contracts + sell some proceeds [05-Apr-25 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Excited, planning out two new bases. [05-Apr-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdb710a60bb** left.* [05-Apr-25 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: are you supposed to have bases spread out or close by to each other? [05-Apr-25 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: up to you. when you have limited ships, it's logistically useful to keep all your bases near your main CX [05-Apr-25 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: makes sense [05-Apr-25 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: luckily my main exchange is in the same system as my base [05-Apr-25 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's a lot of really good plants near to benten, so you don't really have to go that far to find a good home for your next base [05-Apr-25 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: yeah i saw umbra so i was curious [05-Apr-25 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: really decent planet [05-Apr-25 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: umbra, proxion, gibson, milliways, geidi prime [05-Apr-25 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: still that's a long way off [05-Apr-25 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: i haven't even built my second extractor/refinery [05-Apr-25 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RedNeckSnailSpit**: Well hey, if you need any help we're here. [05-Apr-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: tyyy [05-Apr-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Dude, dig the name lol [05-Apr-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Someone said make sure to have liquid assets, so I invested in H2O. :D [05-Apr-25 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: If you can sell it at a higher price I don't see a problem with that XD [05-Apr-25 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Juvia_Lockster** joined.* [05-Apr-25 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Electronic** joined.* [05-Apr-25 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kunailby** joined.* [05-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Are there any recommended screen formats for either categories or certain use cases? [05-Apr-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Due to the modular design, it's actually rather open how people make their screens. Can't show it here, but I've seen some of the older players screens, and they are all different/unique [05-Apr-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CNYeZi** joined.* [05-Apr-25 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I feel like there are sets of screens that can be defined by the main goal of what the person's goal is, such as refiner, self sufficient, and other sub categories. Though I am making several assumptions based on my relative newness. [05-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: there's no standard screen recommendation, you cane make up whatever configuration works best for you [05-Apr-25 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's common to have multiple screens [05-Apr-25 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have one template that i use for each of my bases that shows inventory, production lines, pli, chat, and workforce data [05-Apr-25 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have another screen called "travel" that shows FLT to see all my ships, inventory for my hub, and the benten local market [05-Apr-25 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GUTFEELGod** joined.* [05-Apr-25 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Those sound useful, I am mostly using the default screens while making new screens when I find the need, and they are typically very limited in use type [05-Apr-25 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Nearly all the screens I have are, in some form, to watch a several of a thing at the same time, such as planets, systems, what to build, what to buy, comms, and I also have a buffer, which I can save buffers between terminal sessions. [05-Apr-25 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eric1359** left.* [06-Apr-25 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rayd** joined.* [06-Apr-25 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xman2006** joined.* [06-Apr-25 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: i still haven't made proper screens [06-Apr-25 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: mostly because idk what each would need [06-Apr-25 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: also i really hate sending ships with cargo space remaining [06-Apr-25 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Check out the local markets for shipping ads [06-Apr-25 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Maybe you'll find something [06-Apr-25 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Anyone wants something shipped from benten to katoa? 800/800 free [06-Apr-25 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***shimu** joined.* [06-Apr-25 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoomsDayB3ar** left.* [06-Apr-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***landeks** joined.* [06-Apr-25 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: I need shipping both ways. Ad posted on BEN's LM [06-Apr-25 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: 3rd base is operational, now to save up and expand operations :D [06-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: What are you producing? [06-Apr-25 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: DW for now, but I need to build like 6 more RIGs for H2O and then I can scale DW up to where I want it. It's going to be profitable but slow right now. [06-Apr-25 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And to be clear, DW is on Milliways. H2O from Etherwind, and Katoa is a mix of things for now. I've still got two more bases planned lol [06-Apr-25 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Will you have excess H2O from your production or all of them is going into production? [06-Apr-25 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Not much at first, but eventually. [06-Apr-25 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: My end goal is COF :) [06-Apr-25 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Nice [06-Apr-25 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: So on my Katoa base, my "Current" workforce overview column says "480 (150)" - what is that 150 number? [06-Apr-25 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: This is the BS UV-351a command [06-Apr-25 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html#my-workforce-says-something-like-180-40-what-does-the-number-in-brackets-mean {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faq/index.html FAQ :: Prosperous Universe Handbook General What is the current status of the game? What comes after Early Access? Is Prosperous Universe a free-2-play game? Why still make a browser-based game today? Can Prosperous Universe be played on mobile? Will the game be available on Steam / the Apple App Store / my favorite platform? Can I change my username? When will this universe be re... [06-Apr-25 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh [06-Apr-25 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I need another cup of coffee [06-Apr-25 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Okay so I think I understand. When I built my extra HB1s, it took 150 from the reserve pool. Does that automatically go back to 0 when a new pop report drops? Or do I have to contribute or do anything? [06-Apr-25 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: when the next report happen the avaible workers get redistributed between the players. [06-Apr-25 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: if there is enough workers than everyone get what they need [06-Apr-25 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: if there is shortage then averyone get less than needed. [06-Apr-25 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ahh, and then the reserve pool comes in to cover the shortage [06-Apr-25 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: the reserve will come in play in case of new building needing staff. not sure if it will be used even for shortages [06-Apr-25 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ah thanks. [06-Apr-25 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah that tends to be how it goes. I went Katoa > Etherwind > Sonos, but basically same thing [06-Apr-25 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wagon** joined.* [06-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antoine1503** joined.* [06-Apr-25 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pankakke** left.* [06-Apr-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klamir** joined.* [06-Apr-25 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pendrack** joined.* [06-Apr-25 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anybody be in the market for 9,050 MCG.CI1 ? [06-Apr-25 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Delivered locally [06-Apr-25 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Would you like 9,051 MCG? Please message me. [06-Apr-25 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: that's a lotta rocks [06-Apr-25 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Rocks? [06-Apr-25 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Excuse me? [06-Apr-25 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: This is Class A construction granulate. [06-Apr-25 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Guaranteed to last the full 90 days [06-Apr-25 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: guaranteed to not disolve in water? [06-Apr-25 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Absolutely [06-Apr-25 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We coat our MCG for use in any climate, and particularly in wet rig environs [06-Apr-25 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: He has an inferior product. Our MCG is made from quality LST from high pressure worlds. His LST in his MCG is not from high pressure. Your buildings will fall apart. [06-Apr-25 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i dunno, i heard that neke has some pretty good references [06-Apr-25 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: In other news, all my MCG has now been sold [06-Apr-25 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Hmph... <:( [06-Apr-25 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But if you need 9,050 high quality MCG I think @TheNegotiator might have some [06-Apr-25 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i have 9700 MCG myself, i fear it is of lesser quality. i keep using it to shore up the foundation of the chamber of global commerce, but it seems it keeps disolving and i have to keep resupplying it every 10 days [06-Apr-25 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's terrible [06-Apr-25 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Many years ago I advocated for moving the Chambers away from the center of the ammonia swamps, but, nobody would listen. [06-Apr-25 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: POPR looks very sad these days [07-Apr-25 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [07-Apr-25 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd2ed4ec57e** left.* [07-Apr-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: If there are 4 Factions, why are there 5 currencies? [07-Apr-25 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: lost currency from old universe (last reset) [07-Apr-25 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Ah [07-Apr-25 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Are there any benefits from being in a Corporation? Either by Creating or Joining an existing one? [07-Apr-25 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Production bonus from corp HQ [07-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Sounds like it would be better to create a Corp than joining a preexisting one. [07-Apr-25 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: But the HQ needs to be built to give prod boost [07-Apr-25 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Who does the Corp HQ effect? Corp Director or all members? [07-Apr-25 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***zimmerphrame** left.* [07-Apr-25 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Every shareholder [07-Apr-25 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Oh, nice. [07-Apr-25 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Shareholders are the Members/Players, right? [07-Apr-25 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Yup [07-Apr-25 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Is there any other important information regarding Corporations I should take note before (attempting to) joining one [07-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: ?* [07-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: That every corp's goal is unique, they work differently. Some work as one entity, sharing production, resources and more strict about what one should/shouldn't produce. Some corps don't cooperate that closely [07-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: And with the coming of gateways I would say some of them are trying to get ready for that. [07-Apr-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Gateways sound nice, I read the description, are they artificial jump points? [07-Apr-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Although Corporations provide a bonus to production, would there happen to be a Corporation that is a large Shipping Company? [07-Apr-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I have no knowledge of that. There may be, but the whole purpose of a corp is to boost production. (And share duties) [07-Apr-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: One can do shipping without a corp [07-Apr-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: But, get this, Branding. [07-Apr-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: *And more letters attached to the name [07-Apr-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: :D [07-Apr-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Imaging making a monopoly out of shipping [07-Apr-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Not sure how it would go about being made, but I imagine it would become a defacto monopoly type. [07-Apr-25 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: If you guys make a Ben -> Prox -> Etherwind -> Ben circle, I can only encourage it XD [07-Apr-25 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: No more circling around [07-Apr-25 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: *InsertASuperCoolAwsomeCorporationUprisingAndAlliancesToTakeDownTheMonopolyAndCreationAHandleFullOfReigningCorps(Maybe4?)** [07-Apr-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nblakey07** left.* [07-Apr-25 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: FIM.CI1 on the LM @ 3.600ppu [07-Apr-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***britishhater** joined.* [07-Apr-25 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: Anyone got a PAC up and running yet? [07-Apr-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nope [07-Apr-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I was going to set one up experimentally but I'd have to rearrange too much to accomodate such a big building and the extra HB2 it would need [07-Apr-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And seems like if you're not making the luxury items yourself it's going to be hard to price a package competitively for any amount of time [07-Apr-25 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: We will have to see what people are willing to pay for the convivence. [07-Apr-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: How active is this game still? [07-Apr-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: or is it jsut getting more so [07-Apr-25 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a little hard to tell. [07-Apr-25 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in my estimation, the game has been getting new users at about the same rate as it loses users [07-Apr-25 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: thats good at least [07-Apr-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: im very new how would i setup a new base for new resources? or should i just look in the booklet [07-Apr-25 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have you watched the intro tutorial videos yet? [07-Apr-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: a few [08-Apr-25 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Yup 1x pac up and running πŸ˜‚ [08-Apr-25 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexeyco** joined.* [08-Apr-25 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user34878359ea** left.* [08-Apr-25 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Made and ebu and tbu then ran out of plastics to ruin this virtual world as well!! πŸ˜‚ [08-Apr-25 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hello wondering if i can actually make money on selling fuel [08-Apr-25 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexeyco** left.* [08-Apr-25 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexeyco** joined.* [08-Apr-25 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexeyco** left.* [08-Apr-25 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexeyco** joined.* [08-Apr-25 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Urgent Bfab purchases on the LM [08-Apr-25 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: pls :) [08-Apr-25 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Sold [08-Apr-25 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Legend [08-Apr-25 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I swear it's just you and me selling to each other [08-Apr-25 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: while eminence watches on [08-Apr-25 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: He supervises πŸ˜‚ [08-Apr-25 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: o7 [08-Apr-25 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Anyone on planet in need of C? Going to be taking down my LM ads and transporting to Station if not. [08-Apr-25 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how many? [08-Apr-25 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You listed them all at a significant premium to the CX [08-Apr-25 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I left a buy up, headed to bed [08-Apr-25 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Havn't been keeping up with the CX price oops, been selling at the same price I've always been, will need to adjust it seems. [08-Apr-25 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I appreciate that price and will remember it if we trade again :) [08-Apr-25 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Dropping my ads to 700ppu for now due to CX drop. Posted another 100 if anyone is in need [08-Apr-25 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a few months ago 750/u for carbon was a very reasonable price, but prices have been slowly falling for a while now [08-Apr-25 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll buy that 100 at 700 [08-Apr-25 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just deleted my INCs [08-Apr-25 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so now a buyer [08-Apr-25 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Posting buying ads for construction mats over the next couple mins [08-Apr-25 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***soyoRIn.** joined.* [08-Apr-25 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: there are C.CI1 buyers here at 700 .. but not at 750 [08-Apr-25 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Deleted your INC's!!! That was careless. Now if you burnt them down you would have had some extra carbon to use πŸ˜€ [08-Apr-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darthpaladin** joined.* [08-Apr-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: LM Ads for PSL, LTA,LSE, and LDE. Will be going to station in a couple hours if not available here. [08-Apr-25 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: sold.. again ;) [08-Apr-25 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Just looked at how much each bundle from PAC would cost if you bought the items separately at current bid prices... PBU = 16140, SBU = 29387, TBU = 49294, EBU = 264928 and CBU = 594324. [08-Apr-25 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: that's the cost for 100 workers for 10 days [08-Apr-25 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4278a55644** left.* [08-Apr-25 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: my calculations were about the same, that's how i came up with my bid price for 16500 [08-Apr-25 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which is slightly more than i would pay if i were buying the individual components on the market. a packager can't make a profit on that price because they have to pay worker costs, but if they have their own cheaper supply of those consumables, maybe their own costs are low enough to still make a profit [08-Apr-25 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: As a test, I made an offer for anyone that would make of these and ship it to one of bases, but no one was interested. I think the profit was pretty good on my offer, but maybe I was off. [08-Apr-25 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I think they are great as emergency bundles or for newer players to start on. [08-Apr-25 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Not so great when you have more than 100 workers.. Then it'll get costly [08-Apr-25 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have a EBU and TBU that will find it's way to cx, via Gibson. I will see if they sell :') [08-Apr-25 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I hoard consumables and make the most PE so... can't wait to wrap these things up to look at xD [08-Apr-25 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Just added 2 more 3d printers for the PSS lol [08-Apr-25 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: insofar the bundle is more expensive than its contents pricewise, is it at least smaller (to ship) space/weightwise? [08-Apr-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: yeah, it's slightly smaller to help with shipping, so that's cool [08-Apr-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I'm excited to use them for BEST grants, cutting 4 materials out of our big supply cont [08-Apr-25 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I've seen grants be mentioned a few times, what are they? [08-Apr-25 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Waps03** left.* [08-Apr-25 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: the BEST (Benten Economic Support Team) grant is a grant for new players in teh Benten area. 1 mil worth of building materials, consumables, and cash to help build up a first base [08-Apr-25 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1306705003263823965 [08-Apr-25 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: wow.. 1 million would certainly have helped me when I started! Took me 2 years to get 1 million lol [08-Apr-25 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you ever feel like a coliq Scorpium, then that 1mil can be yours :) [08-Apr-25 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: yeah.. I was thinking of just quitting Katoa.. then starting a new base here as a 'new player' :D [08-Apr-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: katoa is a very popular starting planet! if you've never been here before, let me extol its virtues :D [08-Apr-25 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I decided long and hard when I started where to go.. decided manufacturing.. the game decided Katoa.. BAM! Here I landed [08-Apr-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Didn't know what I was doing so I got my brother to start playing and leeched all the information he read up on and that made it much easier [08-Apr-25 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Never could make any money back then. We were still using beads and parchment [08-Apr-25 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahh, the honorable abacus [08-Apr-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: :) [08-Apr-25 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Margin** joined.* [08-Apr-25 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: @CptColeslaw, which server is that? [08-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I've been trying to get myself an Abacus for sometime now, though it will be a while until I actually do... [08-Apr-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: XtaleGaster: the UFO discord: https://discord.gg/krzskK4J [08-Apr-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Thank you [08-Apr-25 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: uh, who is Ravick [Prodigus] and why did I just get a contract? [08-Apr-25 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what's the contract for? anything tasty? [08-Apr-25 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I'll send the Preamble and the two Conditions [08-Apr-25 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Preamble "Welcome to Katoa!" [08-Apr-25 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: #1 Payment of 25,000 CIS | Party Prodigus [08-Apr-25 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: #2 Deliver of 1 unit of Basic Rations to Katoa [08-Apr-25 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: congrats, you just got a free 25k :) [08-Apr-25 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Oh they gave me that too. Nice person [08-Apr-25 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: So, I just accept it? [08-Apr-25 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep! [08-Apr-25 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: a lot of people around here are very friendly and generous [08-Apr-25 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I probably should've waited on accepting that, since I don't have any RATs on hand at the moment, I might be able to get one at the EX for a ship on the back to pick it up [08-Apr-25 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Just took a look at the BEST Grant details and I'm looking over the welcome guide again, of those or any planets in the general Benten Area that would be good for a company model that is currently Full Shipping and plans to shift to some form of Self Sufficiency? (+ Shipping [Maybe?] ) [08-Apr-25 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: RATs are one of the essential workforce consumables, so if you have a base here at katoa, i hope you have at least 1 RAT [08-Apr-25 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I removed all of my production and housing so I am, at the moment, a shell of a base with just the HQ. [08-Apr-25 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I was going to build a SF refining, but I was too low on funds, materials (including consumables), so I am doing shipping for the mean time, hopefully build some more ships and have them dedicated to shipping while gathering resources to build the base from scratch [08-Apr-25 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Also, The Benefactor has heard my words and sent a blessing to solve my issues. [08-Apr-25 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tombeasa** joined.* [08-Apr-25 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexeyco** left.* [08-Apr-25 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MONSTER4990** left.* [08-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Logi743** left.* [08-Apr-25 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: I'd upgrade ships before buildin [08-Apr-25 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Ah, done with work. Time to go to work. [08-Apr-25 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Yo guys, a noob question: so I saw ship upgrade kids on the market - are those a good option? I looked at standalone materials'' cost and it's sky-high compared to kits. [08-Apr-25 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: And does the kits provide all the necessary materials? So, like, if I get the ship with a kit onboard to the shipyard I'll be able to upgrade it no problem, right? [08-Apr-25 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Upgrade kits? [08-Apr-25 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I think they mean things offered by other players. [08-Apr-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Oh, like Selling Advertisements? [08-Apr-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, there are people offering ship kits. they are advertised on discord [08-Apr-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: they are often very good deals [08-Apr-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I figure the cost thing is due to owning the infrastructure to make most things yourself. [08-Apr-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That and efficient COGM management [08-Apr-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sometimes they can be more than the individual cost of the components, but in those cases you're paying a small premium for not having to fly across the universe trying to buy the individual pieces [08-Apr-25 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: True. I haven't looked into it too much yet. I bet if you add realistic fuel usage for how fast you're getting everything, it'd still be a deal. lol [08-Apr-25 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also not every ship part is availabe on the CX [08-Apr-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Oh dear [08-Apr-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: What do the 4 planet environment variables do? I only know about High Gravity damaging Ships more, and I think makes buildings need another component to build? [08-Apr-25 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkaral**: also makes your workforce require certain consumables to work [08-Apr-25 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Hmm [08-Apr-25 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh hang on, are these the ship kits? WCB.CI1 [08-Apr-25 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Looks like they are for modules, pretty nifty [08-Apr-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: That's a bad example. [08-Apr-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Well of price I think. There's 1 listed apparently lol [08-Apr-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: But there's a Ship Kits category under CX [08-Apr-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I see 2 sell with 1 buy [08-Apr-25 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: If a planet has low or no population, it is a very bad place to start a base, right? [08-Apr-25 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Or is it because there are no bases that the population moves away? [08-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: People move away before the population infrastructure isn't supplied. The happiness goes down and they leave. I think... It's been like years. [08-Apr-25 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: Check the info buttons on the population report screen. [08-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I'm currently sifting through planets on PrUnPlanner to one day extract H, AMM, and GAL, though I think most of them are bad. Population around or under 1k and/or are on the far edges of the universe [08-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the "ship kits" i was talking about earlier are not a thing in game. it's just an informal collection of all the parts you need to build or upgrade a ship [08-Apr-25 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Would it be better to directly harvest HE3 from Hermes (KI-448b) or to harvest TS from Avalon (VH-331g) and refine it into HE3? [08-Apr-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***artemiui** joined.* [08-Apr-25 11:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dlrow**: You will need more than the WCB.CI1 to upgrade a starter ship from 500/500 to 3000t/1000m3, if you got the money and want to buy all the items as a kit, from my personal experience I recommend GTU Ship Work (not sponsored) https://forms.gle/A12TUwXZCkovb7ov5 {Embed} https://forms.gle/A12TUwXZCkovb7ov5 Google Forms: Sign-in Access Google Forms with a personal Google account or Google Workspace account (for business use). [09-Apr-25 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Aye, I'm lost [09-Apr-25 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: How the hell do I upgrade it to a bigger tank without losing my mind and joining a thousand discord servers? [09-Apr-25 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Bigger tank? [09-Apr-25 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: All I need is bigger Volume tank. [09-Apr-25 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: For liquid cargo, you know. [09-Apr-25 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You mean cargo bay for your ships? [09-Apr-25 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Yes [09-Apr-25 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: You'll need to upgrade your ship. BLU and you will fidn your current bluprints, create a new one with the desired specs. Once you got a bluprint made to how you like/what you can afford, save it and take your ship (and parts needed) to a shipyard [09-Apr-25 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Ugh...nevermind. [09-Apr-25 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: From there, click on the shipyard context, click the urgade ship instead of new project, itll tell you the list of items needed from the current ship to the new bp [09-Apr-25 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It's a realistic game, upgrading a ship is no easy business. If that frustrates you, you should check out some of the supply chains needed to get to those final materials πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’« [09-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user68dfba10ef** left.* [09-Apr-25 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeG71Rus** joined.* [09-Apr-25 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Falkoney** joined.* [09-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: The only Discord server you really need is the UFO one. It's also a good idea to join the PRUN official one, which links to the UFO one in the friends channel. That way, you get important game updates as well as the community server where you can coordinate with others. I think the lack of message alerts here makes Discord the primary communication method. [09-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I haven't done an upgrade on my ship yet, but when I do, I'll be going to one of the people who sell the package deal. I figure they can help sort me out :) [09-Apr-25 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: You'll be selling a package deal for ship components? [09-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: this game is way deeper than i realzied at first and im in love this is so cool [09-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: No, I'll be buying one [09-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: oh [09-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Oh I see, haha. My wording was a little easy to mix up [09-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Many long days in a row [09-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: reasonable [09-Apr-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Do you have any information about the prices as of yet? [09-Apr-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chakki** left.* [09-Apr-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Not yet, but soon. I'm ramping up my production of DW which means I'll need to be able to haul a literal boat load of H2O [09-Apr-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Feel bad because my Katoa base is just like... humming along, at a rather slow pace. lol [09-Apr-25 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zeremoph** left.* [09-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sloh** left.* [09-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: My base is empty :V [09-Apr-25 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hiding** left.* [09-Apr-25 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Welp, that's the whole point I started asking: my production per day reached the point where I can't carry it with my ships. [09-Apr-25 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: I was hoping it would be doable without asking someone else or joining discords. Guess it's not possible. [09-Apr-25 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user87808f2251** left.* [09-Apr-25 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: You're going to need a bigger/more ship(s). [09-Apr-25 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: post LM ads for shipping? [09-Apr-25 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There are simple, flexible and affordable solutions to shipping that dont involve millions of upfrnt investment in a ship :) [10-Apr-25 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JediJoe923** left.* [10-Apr-25 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: When a ship is upgraded, are the original components lost? [10-Apr-25 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2c2e37a0b4** left.* [10-Apr-25 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: You mean if for example the cargo bay is upgraded do you get back the previous cargo bay? [10-Apr-25 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Basically, yeah, or anything at all. [10-Apr-25 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: No, those are lost [10-Apr-25 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Bummer [10-Apr-25 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: It is what it is [10-Apr-25 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Though it would be interesting to see used part introduced which would have faster deteoration rate and higher repair cost [10-Apr-25 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I would've thought that you would salvage components it based on durability/type [10-Apr-25 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: + its task [10-Apr-25 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There are a lot of things that don't make too much sense if you peer too closely at them [10-Apr-25 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just squint a bit [10-Apr-25 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I mean, if the thing had steel in it, reason would say you could get at least 1 steel out of salvaging it. Maybe it would need processing, but all of it gone? [10-Apr-25 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Anyone in need of a shipping from Ben to Katoa? Ship leaves in a few hours [10-Apr-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: If I have an order I need to pick up from the Ben Ex, would a rented warehouse unit there be able to collect it? [10-Apr-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: yes [10-Apr-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Yes [10-Apr-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: ooo, let me try it out. [10-Apr-25 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: the warehouse would be the default location anything goes in [10-Apr-25 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: How much space do you have on the ship and what is the rate that you are charging? [10-Apr-25 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: 500/500 free [10-Apr-25 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Depends on the size [10-Apr-25 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: But 1500 max [10-Apr-25 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: *peers at inventory because bad eyesight* [10-Apr-25 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: 77.31t / 75.10m^3? [10-Apr-25 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Gimme [10-Apr-25 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: 400 CIS? [10-Apr-25 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: No idea what's the correct price [10-Apr-25 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I've never made a contract before, let me try making one real quick. [10-Apr-25 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user9d004b2df1** left.* [10-Apr-25 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: I have no clue, most figures I see has a number that multiplies with larger of t and m^3 [10-Apr-25 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Sure, I might not respond, i'm tutoring in 10 mins [10-Apr-25 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Got it [10-Apr-25 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: A typical price people use it 10 cis per unit. Then based on the biggest number tonnage or volume work out the shipping cost. 1000t shipping would be 10000cis eg [10-Apr-25 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I see [10-Apr-25 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I'll keep that in mind [10-Apr-25 03:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Are we sticking with 400, or do you want to change it? [10-Apr-25 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: It has been sent [10-Apr-25 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Night Folks [10-Apr-25 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've left some PBU on the LM and the CX. I think these things are a bit of a flop. [10-Apr-25 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Bidders see to want the packages at a discount to their contents? Not sure why I built a PAC to pay labour and packaging to sell contents for a discount [10-Apr-25 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: will give it a try [10-Apr-25 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDistGent** joined.* [10-Apr-25 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***airerby** joined.* [10-Apr-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I'm just curious about them. I suspect that if they do catch on, that the individual consumables will see a slight price increase to effectively make packaging more appealing... [10-Apr-25 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: But that's assuming the folks who make them also make the individual items [10-Apr-25 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: It's a new product, and early bidders are going to try and get it at a discount. [10-Apr-25 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **legosteve**: It will take a while for the market to decide on a price. [10-Apr-25 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zazzo** joined.* [10-Apr-25 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zazzo**: guys how i demolish a building into my base? [10-Apr-25 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: BBL will list each building. There's a button to click to demolish. [10-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: prob easier to type BS .. and then BUILDINGS .. and go that way [10-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: (I'm more of a menu system guy than a buffer guy) [10-Apr-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zazzo**: got it, if i want to get helium3 or hydrogen i need a rig or a collecor? [10-Apr-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: not on this planet ... you need to buy it from the CX which means to need to fly to Benten Station [10-Apr-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: people often sell H on the LM but you need PRO or BASIC to buy there [10-Apr-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zazzo**: got it, thank you a lot [10-Apr-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PAC dismantled [10-Apr-25 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: RIP [10-Apr-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I feel honored to have received a limited edition neke86 PBU [10-Apr-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so far the only one [10-Apr-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: ive got 9 more [10-Apr-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Curiousity made the sale tbh [10-Apr-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Got it. Clicked the U. Unpacked it. "Huh, neat." and that was that. [10-Apr-25 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Still got mine for the time being... [10-Apr-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: alright alright [10-Apr-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll stick it a bit long [10-Apr-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: er [10-Apr-25 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: :) [10-Apr-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ekogezgen** joined.* [10-Apr-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OK I will now be dribbling PBU.CI1 up to the CX for 16K ppu, but if anybody wants them locally please chime in :) [11-Apr-25 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gamebun** joined.* [11-Apr-25 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ComfyGuy** joined.* [11-Apr-25 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: hey @neke86 I”m interested in one local. Slow dribble is fine since I don’t have like 20 pioneers right now [11-Apr-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Posted buy ad [11-Apr-25 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thadsworld1128** joined.* [11-Apr-25 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Hello Katoans. FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx [11-Apr-25 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***seka2003** joined.* [11-Apr-25 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sitaltan52** left.* [11-Apr-25 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user44a7e4a8a4** left.* [11-Apr-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kalpmehta2009** joined.* [11-Apr-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Did you just restart @bitrunnr [11-Apr-25 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Yep! I played a lot back around 2021-22. I think I remember your corp from then [11-Apr-25 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeap :) I just returned last week myself hha [11-Apr-25 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: Oh nice! Welcome back :) [11-Apr-25 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaddogMcGhee** left.* [11-Apr-25 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Hello [11-Apr-25 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Hi! [11-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Good to see older blood returning to faith. The game just scratches a certain itch ig [11-Apr-25 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And we bring arcane elder knowledge of riches long lost [12-Apr-25 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Well, keep better track of it next time πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ [12-Apr-25 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: @neke89 "knowledge of riches lnog lost!?" you are always complaining everything costs too much these days! :P lol [12-Apr-25 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well I know where it is [12-Apr-25 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just COLIQ'd and need to get back to it [12-Apr-25 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: It will be stored in your lost armada [12-Apr-25 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mulliken** left.* [12-Apr-25 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SchuhSchuessel0** left.* [12-Apr-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***APtitan** joined.* [12-Apr-25 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***isherwood** deleted this message.* [12-Apr-25 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb12ad75fa8** left.* [12-Apr-25 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrLyrox** joined.* [12-Apr-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SAVANT-Ryco** joined.* [12-Apr-25 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Em.Ze** left.* [12-Apr-25 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm looking for new or developing players to supply carbon, raw cotton, or other inputs or products to support my manufacturing enterprise. I'm offering flexible trade terms and subsidized pioneer bundles so you can focus on manufacturing with improved base concentration. Drop me a DM if you are interested :) [12-Apr-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayTheMerc** left.* [12-Apr-25 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb905a4c4f1** left.* [12-Apr-25 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LostDOLLA** joined.* [12-Apr-25 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user09d621cf22** left.* [13-Apr-25 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigFrog** joined.* [13-Apr-25 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMA** joined.* [13-Apr-25 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Small shipping LM: Katoa >> Yannick, posted on this planets LM, 15ppu [13-Apr-25 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: whatcha doing on yannick [13-Apr-25 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neried** joined.* [13-Apr-25 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: making those juicy fabs i suppose [13-Apr-25 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: or ship [13-Apr-25 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I'm thinking that once gateways connect us to metal taps better, Yannick might make a good metallurgy planet... [13-Apr-25 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mpk3107** joined.* [13-Apr-25 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tynicas** left.* [13-Apr-25 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panifex_** joined.* [13-Apr-25 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItalKronin** joined.* [13-Apr-25 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: By pinning pieces of space together, the world becomes smaller, more like lasagna than a web [13-Apr-25 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I do like lasagna... [13-Apr-25 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Too bad I don't have any on hand, I'm hungry [13-Apr-25 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I can sent a cont for the mats to make it on milliways [13-Apr-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Probably take a few days [13-Apr-25 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Does PrUn have Lasagna? [13-Apr-25 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: We could do a feature request. What would the ticker be? LGA? [13-Apr-25 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Grains, could find something for the tomatoes, cheese? Are there mushrooms in Lasagna? [13-Apr-25 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: grains -> flour -> sheets, or grains -> lasagna sheets? or just grains into with the rest for Lasagna? [13-Apr-25 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **XtaleGaster**: Not really sure what a triglyceride fruit is, is tomato part of that group? [13-Apr-25 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zaciss** joined.* [13-Apr-25 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: They use tomatoes on the Rprun extension, so kinda? [13-Apr-25 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: @neke86 PP2 production, low material entry and highly needed for early to mid game [13-Apr-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: good choice [13-Apr-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LegitFetus** joined.* [13-Apr-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kunailby** left.* [13-Apr-25 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user75a741549e** left.* [14-Apr-25 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koupra** joined.* [14-Apr-25 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItalKronin** left.* [14-Apr-25 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***landeks** left.* [14-Apr-25 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mixert98** joined.* [14-Apr-25 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rayd** left.* [14-Apr-25 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xottabi4** joined.* [14-Apr-25 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb8d4f94a31** left.* [14-Apr-25 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1059afa7bc** left.* [14-Apr-25 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gKrzemo** left.* [14-Apr-25 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alinotch** joined.* [14-Apr-25 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDistGent** left.* [14-Apr-25 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weiiswurst**: BURN [14-Apr-25 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PBUs on the LM. Cheapest in the universe :) [14-Apr-25 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ^ [14-Apr-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: how do those work? just buy and then once in inventory they open up? [14-Apr-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah there is a little "U" on the icon in your storage [14-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: When you click it, it pops up and asks you how many to unpack [14-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Press the button and it just pops open and delicious ammonia flavoured rations pour out [14-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've eaten four of them already, these PBUs are pretty delicious [14-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yours I put galerite spices throughout [14-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Katoa special [14-Apr-25 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ahhh, that's the good stuff [14-Apr-25 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: Starting out do you think it is worth spending that much on 1 or just buying the basics for now? [14-Apr-25 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well [14-Apr-25 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Figure out what it's all gonna cost [14-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: cos my pricing is pretty competitive to market rates [14-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, neke's pricing is fantastic [14-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and as these sell more I will bring them down so it's discounted further [14-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Instead of you paying a premium for the convenience, I'm selling at a discount for MY convenience and you're getting the cheaper goods with convenience built in :) [14-Apr-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: After this batch is sold I will bring the pricnig down again so the PE and labour is not factored in [14-Apr-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: With me being so low on CIS right now ill probably hold off for now and keep an eye on them in the future [14-Apr-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: of course! [14-Apr-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Alternatively, post a buy ad with 30 day terms [14-Apr-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: or 20 or whatever you need [14-Apr-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: Oh thats a good idea too. Once I get finances in order I will definetly do that [14-Apr-25 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***overwolf55** joined.* [14-Apr-25 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6b2a15230f** left.* [14-Apr-25 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zoids** left.* [15-Apr-25 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb617724869** left.* [15-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PBU.CI1 listed at 15.4K represents a full 5% discount to all purchase materials, no charge for the bundling. [15-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: SPU.CI1 listed at 29K represents a 10% discount to the average listed sell. [15-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will keep trickling these to the Katoa LM until it builds some momentum. They are cheaper than the market sum of their parts :) [15-Apr-25 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***i-dr4g0n** joined.* [15-Apr-25 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GUTFEELGod** left.* [15-Apr-25 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Altasark** joined.* [15-Apr-25 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: would anyone be willing to loan me 40k cis out of the kindness of their hearts? [15-Apr-25 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: or yall some mean bastards [15-Apr-25 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [15-Apr-25 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Hmm.. not sure I approve of your name! ;( [15-Apr-25 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d0a4ea1ef** left.* [15-Apr-25 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I couldn't tell if they hate British people, or if they are British and just hate things in general. Either way, not the best first impression. haha But who am I to judge? The poor coffee cups... [15-Apr-25 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean, games are meant to be enjoyed, not a place to come to hate things. So it's a bad first step regardless [15-Apr-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: Well, Brittain is kinda lost now, makes sense to hate it [15-Apr-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrypticRazor** joined.* [15-Apr-25 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera455463eec** left.* [15-Apr-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I know where we are!! [15-Apr-25 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: *points* you're right there! [15-Apr-25 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: /waves [15-Apr-25 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: im a hater i never said i hated ppl tho [15-Apr-25 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Justice_For_Mushroom** joined.* [15-Apr-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Neke, i'll buy all your PBUs on BEN if thats alright :) [15-Apr-25 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: @neke86 [15-Apr-25 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: Or if you make them on Katoa, i can just buy there [15-Apr-25 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Pretty sure they're made on Katoa, can probably put up some LM buy ads :) [15-Apr-25 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: theyre sold out ftm lol he can only make so many and ppl insta buy all of them [15-Apr-25 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: oh i read that wrong i thought u said check market lol [15-Apr-25 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I did that my bad [15-Apr-25 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: My pioneers were hungry [15-Apr-25 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: lmao i think its fine he will only make more right? [15-Apr-25 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I would think so yes [15-Apr-25 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure will :) [15-Apr-25 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gepard_Landau** left.* [15-Apr-25 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***relentless1504** joined.* [15-Apr-25 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user12675c0434** left.* [15-Apr-25 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***overwolf55** left.* [15-Apr-25 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***overwolf55** joined.* [15-Apr-25 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RICHLILWEEZUS** joined.* [15-Apr-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TwinMold0** joined.* [15-Apr-25 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Is anybody online with LFabs for sale? [15-Apr-25 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Save me flying to BEN and back [15-Apr-25 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All sorted thanks to @eminence32 [15-Apr-25 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***4Quarters_And_A_Dime** joined.* [16-Apr-25 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mijo** joined.* [16-Apr-25 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hieremiamapex** joined.* [16-Apr-25 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leo_Lakshan** joined.* [16-Apr-25 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: just as a reminder. i am still offering loans at 3% interest. there is quite some liquidity available [16-Apr-25 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***V0CO** joined.* [16-Apr-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darthpaladin** left.* [16-Apr-25 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aphid** joined.* [16-Apr-25 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Water_Metal** left.* [16-Apr-25 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***550HpAudiS5** joined.* [16-Apr-25 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: anyone need anything shipped to benten station from katoa? I have 194.2t/336.3m3 of space on my ship left [16-Apr-25 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: free? [16-Apr-25 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **APtitan**: does weight add to fuel burn? if so then just a a few hundred to cover fuel cost. if not ill do it out of the kindness in my heart ya [16-Apr-25 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: It does add cost, but not much [16-Apr-25 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jheinner** joined.* [16-Apr-25 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0acad18afa** left.* [16-Apr-25 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyone on katoa willing to sell some basic construction parts at or slightly above market value i need 20 bbh and 20 bde send me a dm if you can [16-Apr-25 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: protip: if you want to buy some stuff at/above CX prices, you'll likely have people who are willing to sell. just place an ad on the LM so that people can just accept it without having to bother with a DM [16-Apr-25 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: thanks thats a good tip [16-Apr-25 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ad's are up on katoa LM pls fill :) [16-Apr-25 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Shipping ad from BEN to Griffonstone in ANT region. 7500 CIS (15/t), in case any of you wonderful shippers want to grab that. [17-Apr-25 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***soyoRIn.** left.* [17-Apr-25 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: filled :-) [17-Apr-25 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sozialist_Space_Commune** left.* [17-Apr-25 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ardrii** left.* [18-Apr-25 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: leaving in 20 for ebisu with 500/500 lmk if anyone wants shipping [18-Apr-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrSpiderSilk** joined.* [18-Apr-25 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***subot.robot** joined.* [18-Apr-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gamer_Rams** left.* [18-Apr-25 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dylan9866** left.* [18-Apr-25 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I need some stuff shipped from BEN to Katoa. Would prefer not to post it on the LM if possible as it's a lot of stuff. Paying 5k per starter ship (500t/500m). SO even if your ship isn't full, still gettting 5k. [18-Apr-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: send me the contracts :) [18-Apr-25 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have a few ships at Ben [18-Apr-25 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I have a250/250, a 500/500 and a 2/2 [18-Apr-25 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gustave** joined.* [18-Apr-25 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sweet. Will do. [18-Apr-25 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'll need a minute to figure out what exactly needs moving. I have a feeling it should all fit within a 500/500 though. [18-Apr-25 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: nice [18-Apr-25 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Lol.. you weren't kidding about there being alot of shipping! :') [18-Apr-25 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Yeah. You can see why I didn't want to use the LM haha [18-Apr-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: yup :) [18-Apr-25 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: you can also send me some, i fly regularly from katoa to ben and back, and the back journey is often almost empty [18-Apr-25 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Sweet. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. [18-Apr-25 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laranja_Original1** joined.* [18-Apr-25 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Felmer** left.* [18-Apr-25 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ekogezgen** left.* [18-Apr-25 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MythosArc** joined.* [18-Apr-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Forger** joined.* [18-Apr-25 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Forger** left.* [18-Apr-25 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luisorrey** joined.* [19-Apr-25 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyone on katoa willing to sell basic overalls and save me a trip to the CX? [19-Apr-25 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Post on lm and ill fill [19-Apr-25 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: :) [19-Apr-25 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: its up! [19-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Sorry, got distracted. Filled [19-Apr-25 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: no worries pleasure doing business [19-Apr-25 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you use my bundles you'll never need random consumables! [19-Apr-25 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I keep close to a 60d buffer, so i usually have enough to spare a little [19-Apr-25 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: Lol i do buy them i m evening out my stores slowly because i had some did buy b4 [19-Apr-25 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Posted an LM ad to get rid of my HE3, bit below bid [19-Apr-25 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Hello, I will be listing three SBU.NC1 / SBU.IC1 shortly for 28,700 each. This represents a 3% discount to the LM ASK of the consumables, with no charge for the production of the SBU itself. RAT, DW, and KOM/REP prices remain high, with EXO and PT easing off in the last few days. [19-Apr-25 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will be adding PACs to this base, and so I'd also like to offer their services. If you have some or most of the consumables and would like them spun into bundles I can do that for a very nominal fee, including supplying missing items etc. [19-Apr-25 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: What are your rates, assuming all inputs are provided (and maybe cost if PE/PSS isn't provided) [19-Apr-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 800 for a PBU and 1500 for an SBU or about 5% of the discounted retail rate [19-Apr-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: meaning, 800 for a 16K PBU = 5% [19-Apr-25 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Is that if i include my own plastic, or is it that if you get the plastic? [19-Apr-25 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: my plastic [19-Apr-25 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: charged at a bit above cost [19-Apr-25 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: πŸ€” that's not terrible [19-Apr-25 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's not great, is not terrible [19-Apr-25 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: its a big ugly building is the problem [19-Apr-25 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Yeah that 10LDE is a yikes, im sure that adds to the degradation costs [19-Apr-25 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 10LBH*, the 6LDE isn't nice either [19-Apr-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Good morning, y'all! [19-Apr-25 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***o0Nasser0o** joined.* [19-Apr-25 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: mornin' [19-Apr-25 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I’m new here, so im not sure I understood it correctly. When I fly between katoa and benten station (or later back), and have free space in ship, I can offer this space to someone? To help and/or make some cash? [19-Apr-25 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yep! [19-Apr-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: unfortunately there's no formal in-game mechanism to offer to ship something, so that means you just have to leave a message in local chat [19-Apr-25 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I thought thats what the market is for [19-Apr-25 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you have a PRO license, you can post shipping ads, which request other people to ship your materials [19-Apr-25 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but there's no marketplace for "i have free space and can ship something for you" [19-Apr-25 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: yeah but I thought you all would be posting "I need this shit transfered, if you have the space, accept" [19-Apr-25 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I guess I wouldnt even be too helpfull to you, since im rarely using over 100 fuel to get there, so the trip takes 1-2 days anyways :D [19-Apr-25 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: eh, sometimes that's okay [19-Apr-25 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: also benten station and katoa are pretty far away from each other, but they're getting closer [19-Apr-25 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in 2 or 3 weeks, travel times will be much better [19-Apr-25 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I know, but I started 5 days ago, I have to do some regular trips [19-Apr-25 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sure, understood [19-Apr-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: anyway, I am on my way to benten station, need something? (240t 400m free cargo) [19-Apr-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just to confirm: do you have a PRO license? [19-Apr-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: oh, I have to have that? [19-Apr-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I dont yet [19-Apr-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Or basic, but you have to have pro to get basic [19-Apr-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, you need something other than the free license to accept contracts from other players [19-Apr-25 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: oh, then nevermind, I will get it later if I still like the game :) [19-Apr-25 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 8Β£ isn't an awful investment, I've heard it compared to ones monthly soda intake, which seems fair [19-Apr-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: yeah it isnt much, but I just started. Im sure I will buy it, as I think about the game almost non-stop [19-Apr-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the free plan is more than enough to get a very good sense of the game, in my opinion [19-Apr-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: in a youtube video I heard you can play for like a year before you hit the limitation of free license [19-Apr-25 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: if you play solo, i think that's probably true [19-Apr-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but with some loans and grants, you can drastically speed up the growth of your company (but to accept these, you need PRO) [19-Apr-25 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I’d be scared to take a loan :D no idea how grants work, also no idea if I can speed up anything simply by "offering my free cargo" [19-Apr-25 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I mean, you would be speeding up your game by making more money on the side. Shipping is a serious hustle if you really get into it, especially since bigger ships can take much more at a time, which means more space to make money [19-Apr-25 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: wasnt sure if it is worthwhile, but what i meant was I’m not sure if it can be worthwhile to offer half of my small ship cargo space (I never filled it yet) [19-Apr-25 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I think I’ll buy it tomorrow :D [19-Apr-25 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Damn no one's selling H on LM... [19-Apr-25 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: What a world we live in [19-Apr-25 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: How much are you looking for? If you need a few hundred or less, I can help. [19-Apr-25 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Just put your buy ad up it will get filled! [19-Apr-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lente** joined.* [19-Apr-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I knew your name was familiar, Zaciss! Welcome to Katoa! If you need anything, just ask. [19-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: :) thanks [19-Apr-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: And yay, two of us can annoy people with questions and offers to ship :) [19-Apr-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I started a few weeks ago. Kinda got bit hard. [19-Apr-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: day 6 for me :D [19-Apr-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Holy crap, it's been 32 days already [19-Apr-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm shipping in 3k hydrogen for the LM, should arrive in about 24 hours [19-Apr-25 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JayTheMerc** joined.* [19-Apr-25 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kalpmehta2009** left.* [19-Apr-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll post more shipping ads if I know people are watching [19-Apr-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: always a bit hard consistently lining things up [19-Apr-25 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OK [19-Apr-25 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have posted quite a bit [19-Apr-25 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdd7b71643b** left.* [19-Apr-25 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf7fb584f5d** left.* [20-Apr-25 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yipee more hydrogen [20-Apr-25 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: also i look on the LM a lot idk how much other ppl do but whenever i check my stuff i always check the LM and other ones near as well [20-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Too many clicks to check LMs most of the time for me. Mind you, im also on mobile, so to get to a given LM i need to go the my relavent BS screen, CTX>Planet info (PLI [Planet identity]), drop down to localmarket and click that. Quite a bit out of the way when i already usually have most full ships [20-Apr-25 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i can def see how thats really annoying yeah [20-Apr-25 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Man your screen setup is lacking if your planetary screen cant fit the LM [20-Apr-25 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: >>Mobile [20-Apr-25 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have a card for each planet, one of the tabs is just the LM [20-Apr-25 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I also play a lot on mobile [20-Apr-25 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: LOOKING FOR 83.4T MAX Daikoku - Proxion (UV-796b) TO BENTON STATION LMK IN THE NEXT 6 HOURS [20-Apr-25 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: vv urgent, lol [20-Apr-25 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: But yeah while i could have an extra tab for LMs, it's still extra steps for something i don't remember about most of the time anyway [20-Apr-25 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***morenokristina9** joined.* [20-Apr-25 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DominikB1199** joined.* [20-Apr-25 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thadsworld1128** left.* [20-Apr-25 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Konniver** left.* [20-Apr-25 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yentl_H** left.* [20-Apr-25 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maver2485** joined.* [20-Apr-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zazzo** left.* [20-Apr-25 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **zvin**: silly question. what nice person pays for all the planetary infrastructure? [20-Apr-25 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: The government pays using taxes but usually its not enough, so the people in the government usually pitch in personally [20-Apr-25 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: OR good people who want to develop benten [20-Apr-25 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d06e10c55** left.* [20-Apr-25 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***svjatojar** joined.* [20-Apr-25 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dadonha** joined.* [20-Apr-25 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sinthalor** left.* [20-Apr-25 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UncleRuckus** joined.* [20-Apr-25 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I have to fly almost empty ship from Benten station to Katoa if you need anything...... to save on fuel I usually fly for 24-30 hours [20-Apr-25 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I just bought premium so I am eager to learn how this works :D [20-Apr-25 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: protip: tell people how much space you have available, in both tonnage and volume [20-Apr-25 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yea I could ship stuff [20-Apr-25 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: let me know your tm3 available and timeline [20-Apr-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: 480t 480m3 ...22 hours flight right now [20-Apr-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: not sure if the time increases with aditional load [20-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: barely [20-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it does a bit, but not by a huge amount [20-Apr-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: still I would aim for the 22 hours since its the time I will have to go to bed tomorrow [20-Apr-25 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: 23 max [20-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sorry trying to do multi commodity shipping on my phone is too hard [20-Apr-25 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I tried using mobile phone, it looks terrible :D [20-Apr-25 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: do I understand it correctly that if you want my help with shipping, you create contract for me to deliver something, and when I get it to Katoa I just click fulfill? [20-Apr-25 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, the person who needs the stuff shipped has to make the contract (either a direct contract or something on the LM) [20-Apr-25 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: @neke86 does this mean you dont need me? [20-Apr-25 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: anyone else needs something shipped? [20-Apr-25 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Not this time sorry [20-Apr-25 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I generally want stuff shipped within 6-12 hours too, as I have ships moving through every day there is no point me paying someone to take something over ~24hrs [20-Apr-25 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's just me personally though, plenty of people won't mind [20-Apr-25 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: well, I still dont know how much is it worth doing for me.....I usually fly for 24 hours, but if the contract would cover additional expenses it would still make sense to burn some extra fuel [20-Apr-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ELPRESIDENT** joined.* [20-Apr-25 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***airerby** left.* [20-Apr-25 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf6f9e8f66f** left.* [20-Apr-25 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: PBU.CI1 on the LM again. Ads last 24hrs. [20-Apr-25 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: neke, need anything shipped to ben? 400 space free, leaving in a few minutes [20-Apr-25 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Will be bringing up to 72,000 PE.CI1 to market in 1d18h, if anybody would like to bid on the lot (or more than half) and save me some haggling/selling, please chat [20-Apr-25 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All good on the KAT>BEN route for this time thank you! [20-Apr-25 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ‘ [21-Apr-25 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user459c3ddb36** left.* [21-Apr-25 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Knack** joined.* [21-Apr-25 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMA** left.* [21-Apr-25 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ulfie** left.* [21-Apr-25 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sevcraftgames** joined.* [21-Apr-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7b35e3847b** left.* [21-Apr-25 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitrunnr** deleted this message.* [21-Apr-25 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: is there a meme for when your ship leaves the station without shipment in cargo [21-Apr-25 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: any facepalm gif? :D [21-Apr-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bitrunnr**: lol [21-Apr-25 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb9b027c03c** left.* [21-Apr-25 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neried** left.* [21-Apr-25 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoughnutJimmy** joined.* [21-Apr-25 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2x urgent BEN>KAT shipping ads placed. If you take them and can do it in a few hours much appreciated [21-Apr-25 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azranite** joined.* [21-Apr-25 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what's in the shipment? any chance it's something that i have locally? [21-Apr-25 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [21-Apr-25 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***King_Peky** joined.* [21-Apr-25 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***silasdresemann** joined.* [21-Apr-25 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera92bd6e727** left.* [21-Apr-25 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: I'm offering a permit lease on Umbra to make PG. For anyone who doesn't know what a permit lease is: I pay to build the base, supply it with consumables for 2 months, and in exchange, you sell me a portion of what the base produces at a lowered price. Stipulation is that you have to sell me everything the base produces for the length of the lease. But once the 2 months are up, the base is yours to keep and do with as you please. [21-Apr-25 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: @neke86 this deal might interest you ^^. If you wanted to produce plastics in the future, PG's the first step to doing that. [21-Apr-25 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Intriiiiiguing [21-Apr-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: My priority is trying to help fix the PG crisis on the CX. As such, I'm not looking for profit and can't really pay you exorbitant amounts of cash for your lease/PG. But I could guarantee at least 30k/d [21-Apr-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: 210k/week. [21-Apr-25 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What does that translate to in terms of % of output of PG at what price [21-Apr-25 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: what's leftover etc [21-Apr-25 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: You would need to sell me 100% of the output PG at the given rate. [21-Apr-25 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: OR [21-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: We could figure out what that would be in terms of PG at a fair price and you could just keep that amount of PG and send me the rest for free if you preferred to keep the PG yourself. [21-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah for two months, but what's after that? [21-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: After that the base is yours [21-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: No strings attached [21-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: OH [21-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Here I am measuring strings [21-Apr-25 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Haha. Nope. No strings. It's a 2 month deal, after that, it's as if it had never happened and you had just gotten a base for free. [21-Apr-25 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I guess the caveat is securing competitive inputs after two months [21-Apr-25 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Albeit in need of repairs. [21-Apr-25 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: Also. Everything logistical would be taken care of on my end. [21-Apr-25 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: So for the 2 months, your job is sending me buys for inputs and sells for outputs. [21-Apr-25 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: And just taking my money haha [21-Apr-25 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well [21-Apr-25 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Umbra is kinda nice this time of year [21-Apr-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Some funny contracts on LM I see [21-Apr-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah.. [21-Apr-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2-day old account? [21-Apr-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: asking for 800K in heavily discounted inputs? [21-Apr-25 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I guess possible with those 15-day deliveries [21-Apr-25 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hydrogen is restocked on the LM [21-Apr-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Thank you [21-Apr-25 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i love you my glorious king just in time [21-Apr-25 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb182de2e78** left.* [21-Apr-25 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I might be interested Reaper,.. if a permit comes with it πŸ˜‚ [22-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyone got anything for ben-kat? leaving ina few got 400T left [22-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Oh yes I do! [22-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 324/250 [22-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: :) [22-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll send a contract through [22-Apr-25 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: erm [22-Apr-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: can I pay for <6hr delivery? [22-Apr-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yessir sounds good [22-Apr-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 4? [22-Apr-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes [22-Apr-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How much fuel will that burn? I'll pay for that on top of the fare [22-Apr-25 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just a rough estimate I know it changes a bit [22-Apr-25 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: burns bout 400 on the low end [22-Apr-25 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sent [22-Apr-25 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Aww yeah that is some quality shipping service [22-Apr-25 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: only the best lol [22-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: alrighty arriving in 4 hours exactly actually down to the minute [22-Apr-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [22-Apr-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: See you then! [22-Apr-25 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: There is a tiny bit of cheap GRN and fairly priced RCO and COT on the LM [22-Apr-25 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: also added some H to the LM in different packages. let me know which size is most convenient. also aiming at newer players. I have near endless H stocks :-p [22-Apr-25 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: how much H are you sitting on [22-Apr-25 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Enough that you shouldn't take a flame anywhere near him [22-Apr-25 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: you shouldn't take a flame anywhere near BEN [22-Apr-25 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: too many FF/SF vapors along with H [22-Apr-25 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Let's say i could blow up BEN station if my WAR catches fire [22-Apr-25 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: i know eminence has 100k H [22-Apr-25 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OptimizedFunction**: how much do you have cuz that sounds like 500k H lol [22-Apr-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Nicster is number 8 in H production on LEAD, with Eminence in 6th [22-Apr-25 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: xD @Nicster wasn't kidding, lol. Now my WAR is the bomb [22-Apr-25 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dumbabbler** joined.* [22-Apr-25 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: πŸ’₯ [22-Apr-25 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: (if you've got any more you want to sell I'll buy unlimited H at 60 even if I have no orders on the books) [22-Apr-25 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: I don't think H will be a problem anymore! :P [22-Apr-25 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: <3 [22-Apr-25 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dumbabbler** left.* [22-Apr-25 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dumbabbler** joined.* [22-Apr-25 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: I'll stockpile as much as I can to keep it that way. I'll post higher bids when I can afford to, but please send me a cont before selling anything to the CI MM @ 50... [22-Apr-25 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rufax** left.* [22-Apr-25 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koupra** left.* [22-Apr-25 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: missing 2 PSE on kat anyone willing to sell? [22-Apr-25 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: *BSE* [22-Apr-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: will do! [22-Apr-25 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: sent it over [22-Apr-25 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nicster**: Does that anser your question :-D [22-Apr-25 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Post Holiday Carbon rush it seems :) [22-Apr-25 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Would anybody be interested in exchanging grain for carbon? [22-Apr-25 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (I'm potentially offering the GRN/HCP) [22-Apr-25 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 490t going ben-kat lmk [22-Apr-25 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: As in Ben to kat? [22-Apr-25 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Hm [22-Apr-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mitosis_Prime** joined.* [22-Apr-25 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yes [22-Apr-25 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: lmk leaving now [22-Apr-25 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: stuff just got filled [22-Apr-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 490t ben-kat [22-Apr-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***britishhater** deleted this message.* [22-Apr-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: in 2 mins im hitting confirm on the flight [22-Apr-25 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: can anyone else sell hydrogen on katoa [22-Apr-25 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: dude who is rn is offline [22-Apr-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: oop spoke too soon [22-Apr-25 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: did you get your hydrogen? [22-Apr-25 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i did not he is online though and i paid already so heres to hoping [22-Apr-25 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm listing another 1k units [22-Apr-25 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I am bringing 3,000 H2O.CI1 and 250 SIO.CI1 to Katoa in ~20 hours. If you want it, post a buy ad on the LM and I will fill the best priced one when the materials arrive. [23-Apr-25 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Also I am ready to produce PBU/SBU (or others) for anybody wanting to supply the goods. It's 800/u for PBUs (I supply the PE) and 1500/u for SBUs (I supply the PE). [23-Apr-25 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6caa449610** left.* [23-Apr-25 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mixert98** left.* [23-Apr-25 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: does anyone have problems with shipping? I still have one ship that I dont really need, so if you want to pay for the fuel I guess I can help you [23-Apr-25 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: In the near future i'm gonna need someone to do the ben->proxion->etherwind->ben route every three days [23-Apr-25 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Damn [23-Apr-25 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DoppyRex**: Lot of Travel [23-Apr-25 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: It is unfortunately [23-Apr-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***britishhater** deleted this message.* [23-Apr-25 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***britishhater** deleted this message.* [23-Apr-25 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: @adiklafa i can do that with really good shipping times for a lil extra money. ill also have a 3000/1000 soon so if you want i can use that for a lil more as well [23-Apr-25 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigBoulder** joined.* [23-Apr-25 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Send me a pm here or (preferably) on dc and we'll figure something out [23-Apr-25 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hackerzrul** joined.* [23-Apr-25 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Justice_For_Mushroom** left.* [23-Apr-25 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***relentless1504** left.* [23-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***exagonn** joined.* [23-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Nobody took up the offer of bulk cheap H2O? [23-Apr-25 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: How do we know it's quality? What if you're watering down the H2O? ;) [23-Apr-25 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Okay sure it has some galerite dust in there but that's added mineralisation you should pay a premium for! [23-Apr-25 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the water looks tasty, but i need it benten not katoa :) [23-Apr-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: send me a contract for 3823 H2O on benten [23-Apr-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'll fly it there today with the rest of this stuff [23-Apr-25 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyone got 111t going to benton station? 5 hour delivery time leaving in 20 [23-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I still have 1 whole ship that I dont use, if anyone wants me to ship anything you only need to provide fuel or its cost [23-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: otherwise free of charge [23-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: if anyone has troble with insufficient shiping capacity :D [23-Apr-25 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user903f3ea4e3** left.* [23-Apr-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SamTec** joined.* [23-Apr-25 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyone going from moria to benton or katoa? i got 390t i need shipped and dont wanna go all the way out [23-Apr-25 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i can give 500 fuel on top of fuel use [24-Apr-25 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFirstTime11** joined.* [24-Apr-25 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***4Quarters_And_A_Dime** left.* [24-Apr-25 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mijo** left.* [24-Apr-25 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Panifex_** left.* [24-Apr-25 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: post an ad for it at BEN or send me a cont @britishhater I've got to pick up a few things there myself [24-Apr-25 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I'll have some stuff too at moria [24-Apr-25 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: 50t/100m3 [24-Apr-25 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i can pickup [24-Apr-25 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i already sent a ship [24-Apr-25 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i can do the 50t [24-Apr-25 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: send me a ad ill do it for free idc n i can carry 60t more @CptColeslaw [24-Apr-25 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I can only send it in the evening [24-Apr-25 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: My stuff wont be delivered until then [24-Apr-25 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: sent [24-Apr-25 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CptColeslaw**: wait are you going to BEN or Katoa [24-Apr-25 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i mean im going to yannick? but i can stop at benton i need to grab stuff [24-Apr-25 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: COT.CI1 anyone? [24-Apr-25 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Got 36 freshly spun units [24-Apr-25 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klapaucius** deleted this message.* [24-Apr-25 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klapaucius**: sent you a contract [24-Apr-25 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6841b81547** left.* [24-Apr-25 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3dde9c2aa0** left.* [24-Apr-25 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***550HpAudiS5** left.* [24-Apr-25 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roadwarrior** joined.* [24-Apr-25 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: More COT on the LM :) [24-Apr-25 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PLAGUE_29** joined.* [25-Apr-25 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KriegChiffre** joined.* [25-Apr-25 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aphid** left.* [25-Apr-25 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpatiumViatorem** joined.* [25-Apr-25 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpatiumViatorem** left.* [25-Apr-25 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpatiumViatorem** joined.* [25-Apr-25 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpatiumViatorem** left.* [25-Apr-25 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Seegson** left.* [25-Apr-25 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Unsure if productions are speeding up or if the demand is slowing down, but 400 C on the LM [25-Apr-25 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: seems like prices have been falling slowly over the past new months. i consider 700cis/u still to be a very good price [25-Apr-25 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: With the station going back up to 740 I'd say 700 is a steal :) [25-Apr-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: heck, i remember paying 800+ for C [25-Apr-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***overwolf55** left.* [25-Apr-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: Lets take a trip down memory lane with the next ads then ;) [25-Apr-25 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Ill have 5k H landing in about 18 hours, posted a LM for some of that sweet SF!! [25-Apr-25 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ooh 5k, does that mean you have a fancy HCB? [25-Apr-25 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: lol i wish 1 3k vol and 1 2k/2k [25-Apr-25 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: Might need to offer H pickup at CB-282D until i get inventory under control again haha [25-Apr-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Deemo3501** left.* [25-Apr-25 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marvellstar** left.* [25-Apr-25 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What price for local collect? [25-Apr-25 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **shilerhobbs**: I could do 60ea [25-Apr-25 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: Anyone selling beans? [25-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i got a contract for 39 of em for some reason for a payout of 4.4k not worth at all ik which is why im asking bc the other 2 contracts also suck and give 1 point and not 2 [25-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: You don't have to fullfill any of them [25-Apr-25 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: You can decline all 3 [25-Apr-25 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i want to get rep up how long till they send fresh ones? [25-Apr-25 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5c659932e5** left.* [25-Apr-25 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ik i dont i just like the little extra quest ngl [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I have no idea [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Few days, a week [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: But that number doesn't mean anything [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: it means future ones give higher payouts and are more complicated [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, but barely [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: how barely we talkin [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Everyone says that but for atleast a month I'm just rejecting them [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: They all suck [25-Apr-25 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i've been playing for about 2 years, and i just got a shipping contract from katoa to benten that pays 5k CIS [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: lmao alr [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and a few hundred fuel [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Wow [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Lucky you [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: and my faction rep is 392 [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea i saw that lol [25-Apr-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Recently I had a contract for HQ upgrade, but I had my money elsewhere [25-Apr-25 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: But I was going to upgrade HQ un two weeks :(( [25-Apr-25 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea best one ive gotten is the ship upgrade one [25-Apr-25 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the shipping contracts are usually the best, because if the contract is to a place where you are already going, then it's just free money (assuming you have cargo inventory space) [25-Apr-25 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so i would have accepted the contract if i had a ship planned for that route. but in general i reject the vast majorty of the faction contracts [25-Apr-25 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Definitely those are the best but for me, in most cases I get exploration contract [25-Apr-25 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: To an uninhabited place [25-Apr-25 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, ignore those [25-Apr-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the rewards almost certainly won't cover fuel costs [25-Apr-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Lol I have still one unfinished contract because I misclicked 5 months ago [25-Apr-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i actually just rejected them n got 3 more lol 2 planet explore and a katoa to benton [25-Apr-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Good for you [25-Apr-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: well you dont get another contracts until you agree or reject one of the previous batch (I think) [25-Apr-25 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: also for new players they come once every 16 hours, after some time you get them less frequently [25-Apr-25 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: also if you are not interested in any contracts you can just disable them [25-Apr-25 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Walkthrough20** joined.* [25-Apr-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Anyone here make POW, either here or at another base? Looking to make a deal, try to shave down the price from POW.CI1 (can do trades for items at CoGM, lets make a deal!) [25-Apr-25 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I need 20 for HQ upgrades [25-Apr-25 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZenWhisper**: I make POW. Will talk direct. [25-Apr-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M27A1192172** joined.* [25-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: if anyones coming from benton station lmk i forgot to grab something and i already had my ship leabe [25-Apr-25 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: from ben to katoa [25-Apr-25 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: what are you missing? i might have it locally [25-Apr-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: MCG [25-Apr-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: need about 250 [25-Apr-25 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***svrachmaninoff** joined.* [25-Apr-25 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: send a contract, i've got plenty [25-Apr-25 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: @eminence32 sent:) [26-Apr-25 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheNegotiator**: What I have MCG :( [26-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Jsut post LM ads [26-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: please I beg you [26-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: people fill them [26-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 7K MCG just sitting here [26-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: will do in the future ig lol will def lyk [26-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but the beauty of the LM is you dont need to [26-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: tru [26-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I mean, I announce posts but thats because y'all find it too hard to look [26-Apr-25 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: AY YOU SPEAK FOR THEM [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i be stalkin that shit [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: well [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: whaddya want [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *pops open trench coat* [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I got MCG [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I got OVE [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: hell [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I even have MHL [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just came in, nobody knows yet [26-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i mean nothing now actually lmao i just got everything i needed to max my base area pretty much [26-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Didn't ask what you needed [26-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: asked what you want [26-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: What we talking for those MHL πŸ‘€? [26-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: alr then i want 2bta 4bbh and 10bde [26-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: new hq upgrade lookin like it needs to happen [26-Apr-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I can fill those today, 200 below bid price [26-Apr-25 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: good shit throw me a contract or put it on the lm and ill grab it [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You want all the MHL Atlantis? [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: You have to post buy ads friend [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: else anyone might grab the sell [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: alrighty [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: And it's just the done thing if someone is selling you something cheap, to do the legwork :) [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: kk will do in the future [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Was more just checking prices. I just got done making my MHL beds myself recently, they take forever to process [26-Apr-25 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: prices are for buyers [26-Apr-25 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 4.4-5K otherwise ;) [26-Apr-25 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: just put up the last one thanks again :) [26-Apr-25 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: this would make 2 BTA and 14 BBH [26-Apr-25 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Your current ad for BBH needs to change to BDE [26-Apr-25 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: shit [26-Apr-25 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: guess ur still doin the leg work huh [26-Apr-25 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: lmao [26-Apr-25 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: thx [26-Apr-25 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BALDWIN55** joined.* [26-Apr-25 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Si99** joined.* [26-Apr-25 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: ugh, sorry, super noob questions. I have 2 HB1s (random clicking). I have 2 BMPs (random clicking). How do I get people into the BMPs to create, uhh, basic overalls?!? [26-Apr-25 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: this game is INSANE [26-Apr-25 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Workforce will enter automatically as soon as they become available. [26-Apr-25 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: inventory doesn't appear to be changing at all though...soooo ? [26-Apr-25 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Look in your Workforce Overview to see your required and current workforce [26-Apr-25 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: if I click on BMP, it says "workforces: pioneers 100" but, I have (eg) 3 basic overalls, I need 10 [26-Apr-25 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: hmm, both required and current say 200. I mean, I started this game like 5 mins ago, but my head is spinning already ha ha [26-Apr-25 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: (and ffs, I spent 20 years as a quantitative analyst. It's not like I can't handle complex datasets) [26-Apr-25 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: If you have "200 (some number)" in current workforce then you are employing 200 Pioneers [26-Apr-25 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: So you should be able to enter a recipie in the BMP [26-Apr-25 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: oh! recipes! hmm. let me look [26-Apr-25 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Did you do the tutorial and watch the tutorial videos? I know there's a temptation to skip them, but they are very useful when starting out. [26-Apr-25 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: hmm. If I punch down the layers, I get BMP, then can select (eg) OVE. Then there's 3 diff options, 1 which seems to take 14h, two that take 7h. But clicking anything doesn't appear to do anything. Is that what you mean? [26-Apr-25 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: I did the tutorial. Didn't see any options for videos. [26-Apr-25 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: (something this complex, no way in hell am I gonna skip stuff) [26-Apr-25 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: Put "TRA" in a buffer [26-Apr-25 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: This should be on your "Start" screen [26-Apr-25 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Si99**: ok, I clearly need to leave the "base" screen. Go back to the "start" screen. And watch a bunch of videos. Thanks. I click all the hell around the BMP buffer, couldn't find anywhere to enter "TRA" (buffer is just a modal popup, but zero text entry available, that I could see). Appreciate your patience. Thank you [26-Apr-25 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DistinctMint**: All good. Everyone here is v friendly, so don't hesitate to ask. [26-Apr-25 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Guys [26-Apr-25 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I need one MCG to repair the prod lines [26-Apr-25 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Anyone can help me? XD [26-Apr-25 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yes, wher is the LM ad [26-Apr-25 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user945f47519a** left.* [26-Apr-25 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Posted sorry [26-Apr-25 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Forgot about that [26-Apr-25 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 8,782 MCG more where that came from [26-Apr-25 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Why dont you sell them? [26-Apr-25 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: why dont you spam LM with that? [26-Apr-25 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I will [26-Apr-25 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: was going to send it to the CX [26-Apr-25 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: (with all those LM shipping ads) [26-Apr-25 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: yeah I looked at them, unfortunatelly im not flying for another like 5 days [26-Apr-25 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: but why dont you sell on LM? [26-Apr-25 05:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I don't wanna post 16x 500 ads lol [26-Apr-25 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: how are people supposed to know that there are people selling the item they need :D [26-Apr-25 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Discussion [26-Apr-25 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: putting up buy ads for what they want/need [26-Apr-25 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I will have space for two of them [26-Apr-25 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Do either of you want to purchase MCG? [26-Apr-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Nah, I'm good [26-Apr-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I will soon, waiting for my loan to get approved :D [26-Apr-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I can produce it if I need any [26-Apr-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: see [26-Apr-25 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so that's why I don't post dozens of LM sells :P [26-Apr-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: noone said anything about dozens, also it seems only 3 people are in this chat right now [26-Apr-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got a lot to sell [26-Apr-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MHL, COT, OVE [26-Apr-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: MCG [26-Apr-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: dont know what half of the stuff is [26-Apr-25 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I will want to expand a little soon, but it wouldnt cross my mind to ask you first if you have any of those here, I would just plan a trip to the CX [26-Apr-25 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Done [26-Apr-25 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: posted a bunch of stuff relatively cheap [26-Apr-25 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***text10000** joined.* [26-Apr-25 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeathsHand** joined.* [26-Apr-25 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***subot.robot** left.* [26-Apr-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeepEcho** joined.* [26-Apr-25 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nerdunderfire** joined.* [26-Apr-25 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc4674977b1** left.* [26-Apr-25 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1d53071b08** left.* [26-Apr-25 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: i put a ad for 50 H can someone please send me some. I ran out before i was able to get to the station and back [26-Apr-25 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: on the lm [26-Apr-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: TYSM <3 [26-Apr-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Happy to help [26-Apr-25 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: i started stressing for a second lol i was like i know i was kinda low but i should of been good until i got back but apparently not lol [26-Apr-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NakedWithSocks** left.* [26-Apr-25 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera8bfa9058b** left.* [26-Apr-25 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jheinner** left.* [26-Apr-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: waaaaaaah why is fuel only 13.9 waaaaah im broke waaaaaaah [26-Apr-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ^ me rn [26-Apr-25 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i remember when i considered 10 to be a high price for SF ;) [26-Apr-25 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Above 10 is unconsciable [26-Apr-25 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: wow actually? [26-Apr-25 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: inflation goin nuts [26-Apr-25 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah, part of it is inflation [26-Apr-25 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: but i wouldn't be surprised if SF is just generally more profitable these days [26-Apr-25 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: and here I am chilling, hoping I can sell some for 16 :D [26-Apr-25 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yeah tbh I buy small lots off the LM at any premium for convenience [26-Apr-25 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but [26-Apr-25 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 10 would be better [26-Apr-25 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: lmao ive never seen it go even close to that and ive been playing for a WHOLE 19 days lol [26-Apr-25 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the cheaper it is the more I use [26-Apr-25 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It should be a volume game [26-Apr-25 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: just had to make 3 different listings on the CX bc 2 dudes bought like 20 ftl fuel for a little above market [26-Apr-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: is there any better way of making market listings? [26-Apr-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: or will that just happen regaurdless [26-Apr-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm not sure what you mean [26-Apr-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: why did you have to make 3 different listings? [26-Apr-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (you're selling fuel, i assume) [26-Apr-25 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: like 2 different ppl got ftl for 2 diff prices and only wanted a lil i wanted to insta sell all of it so i had to keep decreasing the price [26-Apr-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: its just annoying and has happened to me b4 [26-Apr-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: just list you sell orders at a lower price [26-Apr-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: if you do one listing it should calculate the actual price of every demand/supply, right? [26-Apr-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: example: if there is a buy order for 10 units at 13 CIS each, and 20 units at 12 CIS each, and you list a sell order for 30 units as 10 CIS, you'll first sell 10 units at 13 and then 20 units as 12 [26-Apr-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: or maybe I dont understand the problem....I tried reading it like 3 times [26-Apr-25 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: gotcha ill look at the outgoing requests every time then [26-Apr-25 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so the price you enter in your sell order is the *minimum* price you'll sell for. you'll get paid more than that if there's a matching buy order [26-Apr-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ohh so it will just sell the little bit at their price it wont lower it to the price you set? [26-Apr-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: it would fill only partially [26-Apr-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: and the rest would wait for another buyer/seller [26-Apr-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yes [26-Apr-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: (there is like 33% chance that I’am stupid) [26-Apr-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yeah [26-Apr-25 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Luisorrey** left.* [26-Apr-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PPaN** joined.* [27-Apr-25 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AVaillSR** joined.* [27-Apr-25 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enndme-** joined.* [27-Apr-25 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 2 x 2500 MCG SELLS on the LM for fulfillment in 12-14 hours. [27-Apr-25 01:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1x 2 RCO SELL for immediate. [27-Apr-25 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Up to 60 COT available in 2 days. Seeking buyers. [27-Apr-25 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: you might find some at the CX ☺ [27-Apr-25 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I sell here below CX :) [27-Apr-25 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Get in touch with someone with MED production, they go through a lot [27-Apr-25 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Well this would be a good place and time to speak up! [27-Apr-25 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hey neke wanna sell me some rations? [27-Apr-25 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: not the bundle i have like 23 days of everything else [27-Apr-25 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: How much do you want? [27-Apr-25 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 300? [27-Apr-25 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Sure [27-Apr-25 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 146/u [27-Apr-25 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: sounds great [27-Apr-25 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ill throw up the cotract [27-Apr-25 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ill buy your cotton too ngl its good to just sell on the CX worth for me at least at the price you sell it at on the lm [27-Apr-25 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ill even keep buying your raw cotton if your looking for a perm buyer [27-Apr-25 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure [27-Apr-25 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'd prefer you use the RCO but that's fine [27-Apr-25 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: CX is fine :) [27-Apr-25 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: But no re-listing on the LM [27-Apr-25 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just list occasional RCO at those prices though [27-Apr-25 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: alr i was gonna process it into cotton fiber if that makes it better lol [27-Apr-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: sure does [27-Apr-25 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: what does this mean: " A new motion 'Festival III 21 and 22' has passed at Benten - Katoa."? [27-Apr-25 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: governments can fund various projects (like festivals) that have certain effects on the planetary workforce [27-Apr-25 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: in the case of festivals, it makes all the the workers more happy, which encourages workers to move to katoa [27-Apr-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: (note that this is not the same thing as worker satisfaction) [27-Apr-25 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: thanks [27-Apr-25 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MythosArc** left.* [27-Apr-25 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Caboose1065** left.* [27-Apr-25 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: is anyone producing these consumable packs in Benten? [27-Apr-25 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FANDONGPAI** joined.* [27-Apr-25 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I just stopped [27-Apr-25 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have ten in stock though [27-Apr-25 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SoulKnight**: just wondering if someone is gonna start producing them for the exchange. [27-Apr-25 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes I did from day one, almost no bids [27-Apr-25 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: bids that were there were very low [27-Apr-25 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: What's your price? [27-Apr-25 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weiiswurst**: the only bundles with significant volume are PBU.IC1 and PBU.NC1, the rest have volumes <5 per week [27-Apr-25 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Weiiswurst**: so CI1 is not the place to be for bundles right now [27-Apr-25 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***reecort** joined.* [27-Apr-25 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: If you want these things put bids up to signal potential producers [27-Apr-25 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: neke if i put up a cotton buy would you fill it occasionally? [27-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: RCO? [27-Apr-25 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I only have random leftovers every now and then [27-Apr-25 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea rco [27-Apr-25 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: if its only leftover nvm then [27-Apr-25 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0358fb8774** left.* [27-Apr-25 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have 27 RCO.CI1 here you can purchase if you like [27-Apr-25 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: at 1250ppu [27-Apr-25 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll match that price if you need even more RCO [28-Apr-25 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: eminance how much could you give? enough to supply an entire weaving plant? [28-Apr-25 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8544ec5325** left.* [28-Apr-25 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JosiahSieg** left.* [28-Apr-25 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 1 WPL alone would need about three FRM running RCO, unless you have cheap access to NS for a HYF or RCO-NS recipe at a FRM [28-Apr-25 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but the 27 im offering is several days worth no? [28-Apr-25 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: oh yeah it is lol i didnt actually look at how much [28-Apr-25 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: looks like a trickle is enough lmao [28-Apr-25 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user63922d8912** left.* [28-Apr-25 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Good time to buy COT.CI1 if you have cash. Looks like a clearance sale. [28-Apr-25 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Likewise RCO.CI1 [28-Apr-25 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: anyone interested in trading H (for you) for GAL (for me) on a regular basis directly on Katoa? We can figure out a fair exchange rate. I have a BASIC account. [28-Apr-25 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: or selling GAL for CIS (@ 115) [28-Apr-25 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: anyone need anything shipped from katoa to benten? i have 500 t/m3 available [28-Apr-25 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: small one posted on LM BEN [28-Apr-25 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: in about an hour I will be sending one empty ship (and one with 150t/350m3 empty space) to benten station. if oyu need anything delivered let me know.... [28-Apr-25 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: The flight itself will take about 18 hours? [28-Apr-25 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***i-dr4g0n** left.* [28-Apr-25 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***UncleRuckus** left.* [28-Apr-25 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: why so slow [28-Apr-25 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lente** left.* [28-Apr-25 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lihoji** joined.* [28-Apr-25 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: no need to burn fuel to only save a couple hours. I usually do about 1-2 fights a day, usually 18-24h flights [28-Apr-25 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone running up to Benten? [28-Apr-25 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I've got several small items [28-Apr-25 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm flying to katoa now and will be arriving in 9 hours for a quick turn around directly back to benten [28-Apr-25 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'll check for and accept any local ads then [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: actually [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: half this stuff is for you anyway [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: :D [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh, lol [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 7 more PBUs [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I kinda want to wash them through the CX [28-Apr-25 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: just to get the trade figures in public [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: makes sense [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but you ned em down here right? [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: no, i actually want the PBUs at benten [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: haha [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: let me sell them to you up there then [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: we could do the most convoluted thing possible [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LOL [28-Apr-25 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which is you give me the PBUs on katoa, i ship them to benten for you, and then i buy them from you [28-Apr-25 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: That's exactly what we're going to do [28-Apr-25 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: but I'll ship it in a big contract [28-Apr-25 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: so it's less silly [28-Apr-25 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheMadCam** deleted this message.* [28-Apr-25 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheMadCam**: 400 Carbon on the LM [28-Apr-25 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: no discount? [28-Apr-25 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anonymous3743** left.* [28-Apr-25 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf636044bde** left.* [28-Apr-25 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 4500 STL slightly below market on LM [28-Apr-25 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: STL (steel)? or SF (slower-than-light fuel)? [28-Apr-25 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: It was SF eminence - I bought it. [28-Apr-25 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: makes sense. 4500 units of STL would have been absolutely bonkers :) [28-Apr-25 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: Easy mistake. I made it early on in the game with Neke as a matter of fact. [28-Apr-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I took the carbon as well. [28-Apr-25 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlueHeeler**: I'm leaving to watch the election results (Canada). [28-Apr-25 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i'm off to bed, i hope our northern neighbor gets everything they wanted out of this election [28-Apr-25 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yes thats actually exactly what i was thinking STL=slower than light ik its wrong lol [28-Apr-25 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: and no i didnt mean to say it lmao [28-Apr-25 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: so... question... why can't I increase the size of my base? I got 3 permits applied, but I also have a PRO License, shouldn't that mean I can increase my base size? [28-Apr-25 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: (my HQ is at level 5, so I have 3 more permits available) [28-Apr-25 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: 3 permits is the max per base. [28-Apr-25 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SilentReaper**: But you can build new bases on new planets. [28-Apr-25 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Booyanach**: ah ok [29-Apr-25 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyone going from katoa to ben? i need to pickup stuff but have 410T to bring [29-Apr-25 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: yes [29-Apr-25 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: how fast u travelin [29-Apr-25 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: two ads posted [29-Apr-25 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: pretty fast u have anything else? 100t left [29-Apr-25 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 400* [29-Apr-25 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: that's all now [29-Apr-25 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SamuGoaT** joined.* [29-Apr-25 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CocaineFangs** left.* [29-Apr-25 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: throwing this out there but if anyone were to be producing HE3 i would buy it all off of you for even 1 cis lower than market. thank you for coming to my ted talk [29-Apr-25 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: anyone make trips down to photos? have a few odds and ends i need shipped and then returned (at a later date). can pay 15-20/highest unit (must accept as multicommodity contract, not LM). Would be BEN > phobos, then phobos > BEN later [29-Apr-25 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm having somebody process some items i have into SP [29-Apr-25 01:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i might be down how many units total? [29-Apr-25 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xiaogui** left.* [29-Apr-25 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Knack** left.* [29-Apr-25 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: 127/12 going there, 4/2 coming back [29-Apr-25 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: id do it for 6k there 6k back ik thats not at all what you said but its the lowest ill do for how long of a journey it is [29-Apr-25 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***britishhater** deleted this message.* [29-Apr-25 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: does anyone else want it tho? i could use my ship for something else [29-Apr-25 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ifbyou got other stuff to do i won't hold you up, it'll take a day or so to process so I don't want to stall up your ships for Lil one me [29-Apr-25 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Lil ole* me [29-Apr-25 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: no yea i meant i bet i could find something if i dont do that for you [29-Apr-25 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: if you are okay with it, I'll send the contract. Just know that the return trip is at minimum 2d after you get there, so whatever you do between that time is on you [29-Apr-25 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: Yea [29-Apr-25 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: currently both ships are being used but will be free in 10 hours ill send one over after [29-Apr-25 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: contract sent, a pleasure doing business [29-Apr-25 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'll send the return contract later [29-Apr-25 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: kk [29-Apr-25 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **smiley8D**: yikes. what's going on w/ RAT.CI1? [29-Apr-25 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: isn't that normal? [29-Apr-25 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: xD [29-Apr-25 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I have three PBU coming for sale in ~1h45m [29-Apr-25 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: could ease some of your burdens [29-Apr-25 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: it's hit it's cap a few times these past few months. Basically just supply doesn't meet demand, so it hits the upper wall set by the MM [29-Apr-25 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I'm selling these three PBU.CI1 at 15.400, which factors in RAT at 140 and DW at 80. [29-Apr-25 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: 500tm3 available, flying katoa->benten, last call for contracts [29-Apr-25 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: what is the reason to create PBU? [29-Apr-25 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user16c16bca79** left.* [29-Apr-25 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***David787901** left.* [29-Apr-25 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: to facilitate trade of said good 😎 [29-Apr-25 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechBadger** joined.* [29-Apr-25 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sunray0808** joined.* [29-Apr-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: heading to phobos from BEN in 20 mins CHEAP SHIPPING i have 370t left [29-Apr-25 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf9f2d9c191** left.* [29-Apr-25 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoughnutJimmy** left.* [29-Apr-25 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: the fuck is a pbu [29-Apr-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that fucking exists? [29-Apr-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: click on it its a pioneer consumable bundle [29-Apr-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: @Zaciss exactly what im saying [29-Apr-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: seems useless to pack [29-Apr-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: cause it is [29-Apr-25 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: unless it has like.. less space [29-Apr-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It has slightly less space [29-Apr-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: so it could be used for like [29-Apr-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it can make shipping and contracts easier [29-Apr-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i guess starting a new base in a single trip?? [29-Apr-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: it only costs more money bc it even takes stuff to bundle it together [29-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I sell PBUs at a discount to the market rate of the consumables :) [29-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: for example, i sell pioneer consumables on one of the planets that i govern. it's way easier to ship and list PBUs than it is to list every individual consumable [29-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: So if you normally buy 100% of your consumables, a well-priced PBU is better for you [29-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: thats a [29-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: interesting business model [29-Apr-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: so its literally [29-Apr-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: bc like [29-Apr-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: lazy [29-Apr-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: :sob: [29-Apr-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: pretty much? unless im missing something [29-Apr-25 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Yeah it is not for everyone [29-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea they suck dont buy them [29-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: anyways neke do u have any of those PBU's for sale? [29-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nope, you shouldn't buy them ('cause they're allll mineeeee) [29-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i need about 2 [29-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: are you french [29-Apr-25 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: moi? non [29-Apr-25 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: britishhater [29-Apr-25 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: moi? non [29-Apr-25 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Only bundles I have for delivery today are the two SBUs sorry [29-Apr-25 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: dang [29-Apr-25 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ill take those tho lol [29-Apr-25 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: done [29-Apr-25 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: :) [29-Apr-25 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i will pay after this shipment of fuel is sold [29-Apr-25 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: if a planet says no more available plots, i cant start a base can i [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: unless youre tryna buy it? or anyone else ofc [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: you can gift pro licenses?? [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yes [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: when did this start [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: a little bit ago? [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: nah im algds brit, i make other stuff so it would be stupid [29-Apr-25 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: recently [29-Apr-25 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: where should i expannnddd [29-Apr-25 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: your mind [29-Apr-25 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that would require too many neurons [29-Apr-25 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: idk but what im doing rn is just making my first base huge and making sure my HQ is upgraded a lil more before branching out more [29-Apr-25 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: how does one make their base "huge" [29-Apr-25 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: just keep adding permits to your current one [29-Apr-25 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i think max is 3 [29-Apr-25 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: wdym [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that just allows you to have more bases no? [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yes and no [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but like [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: wdym by huge [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: do you mean growing your company? [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: you can either increase a current base by 250 area or you can make a new one that has 500 on a different planet [29-Apr-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: thats what permits do [29-Apr-25 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: wait that increases avail? [29-Apr-25 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yes [29-Apr-25 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: oh dam [29-Apr-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: what does your base on ebisu do? [29-Apr-25 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: if its hydrogen id buy from you if its under market [29-Apr-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: thats for food [29-Apr-25 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: was either going to go full into hydrogen or into food, and ended up with food [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: idk exactly how profitable it is [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ah i see id buy food from you tho [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: cant buckaroo [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i am poor [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: and ik that rations are capping out rn for price [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: theres never enough [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: they are? [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i havent checked [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i think so? [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: RAT.CI1 [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: HOLY SHIT [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: WTFFF [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea lol [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: crazy money [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: WHY EVERYONE SO HUNGRYYYY [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: JESUS [29-Apr-25 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: hold up [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: eh [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hey i mean if you have shipping needs i could hook you up i got real fast shipping and good prices [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i dont even have half a mil lol [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i got 50k in the bank whatchu talking about poor [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: mate, where you have been these past months :) [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: me? [29-Apr-25 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: ya :) [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: aww thx for noticing [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i kinda just locked in [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and also had *life* to deal with [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but like [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i just stopped being active so much [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: went from 5-15 minutes on it to 30 seconds [29-Apr-25 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: a day [29-Apr-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: then thanks for visting our little local katoa chat, it's nice to have you back, even if for just a little bit [29-Apr-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: eh [29-Apr-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i am slightly less busy [29-Apr-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and have finished like [29-Apr-25 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: most of the grind [29-Apr-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i had to make sure i wasnt gonna go under from expanding [29-Apr-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and it really burnt me out with that [29-Apr-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: oh yes, it's important to take breaks if you start to feel burnout [29-Apr-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: games should be *fun* and when they stop being fun... well that's no fun [29-Apr-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: eh well [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: its not so much that, its just like [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: my daily ration of time to this game per day was used up by management stuff [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and now im back to juts [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: filling out new order stuff [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: and buying some resources for upkeep [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: like currently i have 660k [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: with 25k of fuel stockpiled [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i was at 60k [29-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: sometimes there is joy in just churning out fuel or whatever, and not trying to do anything more complicted than that [29-Apr-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I make overalls [29-Apr-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: *pats Pioneer Bundle affectionately* [29-Apr-25 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It ain't much, but it's honest work [29-Apr-25 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: you know, someone should have a talk with those pioneer workers.... [29-Apr-25 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: why do they keep destroying so many overalls, such that i have to keep supplying them [29-Apr-25 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: dude [29-Apr-25 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: we feed them "rations" [29-Apr-25 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: as 24/7 food [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: "plant based brick shaped meal with a lack of falvour and spices" [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: it is a .1 cubic meter of pure calories [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: they have to chip it out with their tools [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i reckon allowing them to use more overalls [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: is fair [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: let them have clean clothes :sob: [29-Apr-25 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: lol [29-Apr-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: It's a protein bar [29-Apr-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that would suck bruh [29-Apr-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I add flavor to mine but I don't tell the oversees [29-Apr-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: they do have coffee tho [29-Apr-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: that ebisu base is purely to supply me with rations and the ocasional bit of water too [29-Apr-25 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: gibson* [29-Apr-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: wait [29-Apr-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: oh its [29-Apr-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im stupid aye eminem [29-Apr-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but yeah ive just been grinding out fuel [29-Apr-25 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i stocked about 2 months of supplies so i didnt have to deal with them [29-Apr-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: nice [29-Apr-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: wby brother [29-Apr-25 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: ive seen you around [29-Apr-25 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: ya know what... thats a lot of bases [29-Apr-25 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im sure youve just been *busy* [29-Apr-25 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I mean, you need one overal per 200 employees daily, that means every one of them gets new one every 200th day [29-Apr-25 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: my pioneers work with fuel, I think its ok to change the overal every 200th day. Maybe they need to change it when they accidentaly douse themselves with the fuel [29-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: thats so shit [29-Apr-25 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: why do we treat them so poorly [29-Apr-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: *drinks 10k champagne* [29-Apr-25 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: right now im just about as poor as them :D [29-Apr-25 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: today I had the most money Ive ever seen at once.....I got approved for 100k loan :D [29-Apr-25 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Whatcha building, @Zaciss? [29-Apr-25 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: With 100K? In this economy? Probably a Hab [29-Apr-25 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_Committee_of_One** left.* [29-Apr-25 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: :D [29-Apr-25 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: well I started....somehow poorly.... with fuel refining [29-Apr-25 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: so this time I wen for my first BMP [29-Apr-25 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: also I realized I have to bulid HB2 because refineries use settlers too, so without HB2 I was loosing some profit [29-Apr-25 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: so kinda big expansion for me tomorrow - HB1, HB2, BMP (with some starting resources to start production) [29-Apr-25 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: What are you making? [29-Apr-25 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I couldnt quite decide and I didnt want to craft 1 thing only to realize it doesnt sell, so I am going to go for some PT and some MCG [29-Apr-25 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: nice [29-Apr-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: is it? :D [29-Apr-25 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I made some calculation errors along the way, so I hope I will have enough for like 7-10 days production:D [29-Apr-25 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dagsly** joined.* [29-Apr-25 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***irkman4536** left.* [29-Apr-25 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hey i need some ammonia does anyone have any on katoa? im bouta run out and i didnt realize [29-Apr-25 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i have 3 hours left lol [29-Apr-25 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: please [29-Apr-25 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: yes, please an LM ad, i can sell a hundred or two [29-Apr-25 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: love u [29-Apr-25 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: its up [29-Apr-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: delivered [29-Apr-25 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: awesome [29-Apr-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I think im going nuts with spending too much for the consumables :D [29-Apr-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: Having some stock won't hurt [29-Apr-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: at start I was trying to have enough for 4-7 days to be sure, now I’m like "Sheeesh I just went under 18 days, I better burn half my fuel rushing to get some new rats :D [29-Apr-25 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: my pioneers are bouta start rioting we only have 3 days of coffee left [29-Apr-25 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: 28 here :D [29-Apr-25 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ppl should buy me REALLY CHEAP FTL on the lm so i can have money [29-Apr-25 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: Im still pretty new here, every penny that is wasted in the consumables could have been used to increase production [29-Apr-25 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: 28, sheesh. After 5 months I still hold around 10 days of everything. [29-Apr-25 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: 28 days is almost 2x my game-time [29-Apr-25 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: but to be fair I think I might have gotten some coffe from a contract [29-Apr-25 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: wanna sell me some? [29-Apr-25 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **evadinglife**: That really is a bit too much. At the start I was holding like 3-4 days of stock, just enough so I can send a ship to CX and get it back with the goods until I run out. [29-Apr-25 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I guess I could sell up to 12 pieces, but it would have to be for a market price, so I can buy them back later [29-Apr-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ah nvm then that would be like a day lol its fine [29-Apr-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: well I said im new here, my company is small :D [29-Apr-25 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea but i never had that much consumables when i was that small hes right [29-Apr-25 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I know, im about to change, i swear :( [29-Apr-25 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i mean i only have a little more than a week but stil more than when i started [29-Apr-25 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I kinda always make plans that I will buy enough so that I wont have to fly to CX for 20 days.....which never works because I always need something there [29-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: zaciss [29-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: how dare you say fuel refining is a poor decision [29-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: its so good [29-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I was told so [29-Apr-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: not using my bonus [29-Apr-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: manufacturing bonus wasted [29-Apr-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I feel its ok, im making some cash, but I was told it could have been better [29-Apr-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i mean theres always a market but the market has so much right now that the price is in the toilet [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i- [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: it was like 16 when i started [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: what [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: fuel prices? [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: dude it was profitable at 10 [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: the economy is insane [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea but its much less so [29-Apr-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: get into rations shits goin crazy rn [29-Apr-25 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: you are growing food here? [29-Apr-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hell no im gonna go a few jumps away n start tho im scouting planets on PRUN planner [29-Apr-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but like [29-Apr-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: its [29-Apr-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: its still so good [29-Apr-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: gibson is alright i suppose for food [29-Apr-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: have a look here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub [29-Apr-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: too long for now, im gonna read it tomorrow [29-Apr-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: katoa is like [29-Apr-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: thx but idk if i want a explicit walkthrough [29-Apr-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: just a solid planet [29-Apr-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: it's not a walkthrough, but it had some suggestions of nearby planets that are worth checking out after you outgrow katoa [29-Apr-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: yeah thanks for that btw [29-Apr-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: im gonna flick through it later [29-Apr-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: seems very useful [29-Apr-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: oh alr it looked like one mb [29-Apr-25 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: bingus [29-Apr-25 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Beepz** joined.* [29-Apr-25 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 3x Urgent BEN>KAT shipping posted to LM [29-Apr-25 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: seeking <6hr delivery if possible [29-Apr-25 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: it wont be fast but im sending a ship rn to ben will be there in 4 hours if its still up ill take it [30-Apr-25 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: Will be there in 3hrs @neke [30-Apr-25 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Scorpium**: As in arrive at Katoa πŸ˜‰ [30-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: does anyone have H for sale? [30-Apr-25 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i could give for above market bc i need most of mine [30-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: also look at LM [30-Apr-25 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: i mean thats fine i just need like 50H. Im going to run out before my ship gets back lol wasnt paying attention to it [30-Apr-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: yea ^ [30-Apr-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: b4 u buy from me [30-Apr-25 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Syco3737**: gotcha ill look there [30-Apr-25 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: does anyone want cheap FTL fuel? [30-Apr-25 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: im making it rn but idk if anyone will buy it [30-Apr-25 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: define cheap [30-Apr-25 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: 15.7/u [30-Apr-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: thats pretty thin margins already [30-Apr-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: We have different definitions [30-Apr-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ig [30-Apr-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: nvm then not cheap does anyone wanna buy ftl fuel [30-Apr-25 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: ur new right [30-Apr-25 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: so ur only making it with the stuff ur givven at the beggining? [30-Apr-25 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: no im much past that i got a grant and a loan [30-Apr-25 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: dont make ftl [30-Apr-25 01:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: make stl [30-Apr-25 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: its cheaper to make the ftl that i burn ik its better overall to make stl [30-Apr-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: why r u burning ftl rn [30-Apr-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i do a lot of shipping [30-Apr-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Anyone want to sell some EXO? [30-Apr-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: debateable method of making money [30-Apr-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ok [30-Apr-25 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: youll go thru ur ships super quick [30-Apr-25 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: you have 2 bases after a year i mean idk how good you are at making money [30-Apr-25 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: Earlier you suggested Gibson was an OK location for food production... [30-Apr-25 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i havent really been fucked with this game [30-Apr-25 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: ive played more today then i ahve in the past month [30-Apr-25 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: gibson has poor soil fertility but okay water, which is good enough [30-Apr-25 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i profit off rations [30-Apr-25 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: only bc rations are sky high rn [30-Apr-25 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i dont even sell them [30-Apr-25 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: its just better for me to make them [30-Apr-25 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: sure do whatever [30-Apr-25 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: my advice is stupid anyway [30-Apr-25 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i mean i didnt say that [30-Apr-25 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: you sure did tho [30-Apr-25 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: u implied it [30-Apr-25 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: but alr [30-Apr-25 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: 8x PSL.CI1 at bid price on the LM [30-Apr-25 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TMGphoenix** left.* [30-Apr-25 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toy4x4funrun** left.* [30-Apr-25 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stbadreturns** joined.* [30-Apr-25 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stbadreturns**: Hello everyone πŸ€— [30-Apr-25 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klamir**: eita [30-Apr-25 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Good morning. [30-Apr-25 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Hello [30-Apr-25 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I have both starting ships idle on katoa, if you need anything shipped... [30-Apr-25 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elsigma4** joined.* [30-Apr-25 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I posted some shipping ads @Zaciss, don't have much. No rush on them. I think I paid enough, first time really doing a shipping ad :) [30-Apr-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Feel free to accept and see if you get more takers [30-Apr-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: No one coming from benten? [30-Apr-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I have a shipment posted on ben LM [30-Apr-25 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I dont see any shipping ad on Katoa LM.... [30-Apr-25 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Someone scooped them up. I should've just sent you a shipping cont, my bad. (I forgot those exist) [30-Apr-25 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: its ok [30-Apr-25 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***keloup** joined.* [30-Apr-25 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Elsigma4**: Hellooooo! [30-Apr-25 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: hiii [30-Apr-25 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **keloup**: Hi ! Just started, a lot to process [30-Apr-25 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: hi, welcome [30-Apr-25 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hello [30-Apr-25 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: hi @keloup, welcome here, if you have any question, ask here or in the global help channel, the community here is great [30-Apr-25 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: also there are many discords with many helpful people that are more active in chat than on here [30-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: YES [30-Apr-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: A LOTTT TO PROCESS [30-Apr-25 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Elsigma4**: Hello! [30-Apr-25 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: how do recurring orders work if I place 2 of them at the same time.....do they go 1 by 1 or does the first go as long as I have input resources and then it switches to the second one? [30-Apr-25 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: once a recurring order starts production, it will be automatically added to the bottom of your production queue [30-Apr-25 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so if you have two recurring orders, the first order will be "dequeued" (started) and then the second recurring order will move to the top of the list of queued orders [30-Apr-25 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: thanks [30-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: god that sounds amazing... [30-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: i hate it when i have to do anything above 5 [30-Apr-25 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **_InFinite_**: unless its 10 [30-Apr-25 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***silasdresemann** left.* [30-Apr-25 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dajin132** joined.* [30-Apr-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***narib00** left.* [30-Apr-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: LM Dump! PBU, PE, PSL, PT, REP, KOM, COF, and DW [30-Apr-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***neke86** deleted this message.* [30-Apr-25 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: and MCG :) [30-Apr-25 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: All below CX ASK, and some below BID, some substantially so [30-Apr-25 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: god send [30-Apr-25 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: currently loading up to go sell at moria bc it is worth too by a lot ill pay you after its sold [01-May-25 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klamir** deleted this message.* [01-May-25 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5d5960ad9f** left.* [01-May-25 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klamir**: thx for the DW, PT and REP =] [01-May-25 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: id get some PWO's as well if youve got them idc if its market or not tbh [01-May-25 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: if anyone is going from ben to katoa ill give them 6k for 400/400 [01-May-25 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: or even a 300/300 [01-May-25 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Do you have more space? [01-May-25 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: I just made a purchase offer of 100 mcg on Benten - Katoa (UV-351a) does anyone just happen to have it? [01-May-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I could spare a 100 [01-May-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: You found it :) [01-May-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: yes :D [01-May-25 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: thanks Zaciss [01-May-25 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I just came online and your message appeared, it was a sign for me to do it [01-May-25 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: Thank you :D Have offered Exta a lot that it goes fast :D [01-May-25 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: now I realized I didnt even check the price :D well thats a way to become a poor bussiness-man [01-May-25 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: haha all good I have for 100 mcg I have offered 5000 CIS :D [01-May-25 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: yeah I read that now, thanks :D [01-May-25 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: Gladly :D [01-May-25 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zullu68** joined.* [01-May-25 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: I have again nh purchase request for 650 GAL and 350 AMM if someone wants to get rid of something :D [01-May-25 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DominikB1199**: + 100 RAT [01-May-25 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Anyone had any business with @Evil2Lix before? [01-May-25 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I'm trying to get back a picked up shipment (which he wants to terminate) and in one day I only got a single response [01-May-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: Same experience. I told him, I'd terminate if he returned the money. He delivered the shipment instead. [01-May-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: money and goods that is [01-May-25 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Great [01-May-25 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I don't believe that there's a chance of delivery [01-May-25 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: IIRC I extended 1 or 2 days before it was delivered. Speculating it was the "deadline" notifications that eventually did it. But yeah .. it sucks. [01-May-25 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I only got this "Hello, I chose the wrong order to choose sorry" [01-May-25 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Shouldn't be that hard to accept a new contract to give back the order [01-May-25 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: two possibilities. 1) There's still a blocked shipment sitting in his INV and he doesn't have the stuff. 2) He's BASIC and can't send a contract. [01-May-25 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: ... or he could just own the mistake and deliver. [01-May-25 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: The account has a B rating, so not free [01-May-25 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: And I'll keep the shipment locked until tey accept the other contract [01-May-25 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: might have reverted .. I'm BASIC, but I think I still have an A rating. I forgot where to verify though. [01-May-25 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Yes you have an A rating [01-May-25 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: But with BASIC you can accept contracts [01-May-25 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **isherwood**: so prob. option 1 and him not connecting the dots ... or paying attention. [01-May-25 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Any honest player would've corrected the mistake sooner [01-May-25 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **latosz**: guy picks up shipments and wants to terminate, I extended the contracts for like 2 weeks and it never got delivered :// [01-May-25 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **keloup**: I have an idle ship at Katoa anyone needs to ship goods somewhere ? [01-May-25 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: What's your price? [01-May-25 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: @latosz that's great news, now I can finally let it go xD [01-May-25 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **keloup**: @Adiklafa sent you a PM [01-May-25 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Welp, they picked up 3 of my shipments. They've got 4 days left... [01-May-25 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: @CoffeeCupMassacre the same player I complained about? [01-May-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Yep [01-May-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Fantastic [01-May-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: wait what? someone is stealing your shipments? :D [01-May-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I sent a DM out of concern. And they aren't stolen (yet). They're the ones I posted for you Zaciss. haha. [01-May-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: :D too bad for you :D [01-May-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Hahaha [01-May-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Well they are about to be xD [01-May-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: As others shared their story [01-May-25 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: what would anyone do with a shipment? isnt it just an useless item until it gets delivered? [01-May-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: No, if you breach, you keep the goods I think. But it's frowned upon as piracy. [01-May-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: But that's the beauty. Once the contract is terminated they get to keep it [01-May-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: and what does it mean if someone steals it? I was told I could be marked as pirate, but what does that mean? [01-May-25 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: It means this is a close community, and like we are talking about it now, word will get around and you can be blocked. That prevents LM ads and such. [01-May-25 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: btw cant you somehow prolong the contract just so it is only a SHPMNT item for him and it just wastes his space? [01-May-25 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Yes we can [01-May-25 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: You can extend, yes [01-May-25 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: I want to try communication before I assume the worst, but thankfully my shipments are just a few days of production. lol [01-May-25 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: The weird thing is I didn't see their name in the UFO pirate report [01-May-25 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Well given that they're online and not responding to me, I'm not filled with hope [01-May-25 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: is he a new player? it took me a w eek to nitice ho the communication work :D [01-May-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Adiklafa** deleted this message.* [01-May-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: 212 days [01-May-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: ah [01-May-25 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Also, only one base and here on Katoa. *waves Hi* - If you ARE seeing these messages @Evil2Lix please reach out to folks. If you need help with fuel or anything, I don't mind helping. Look at the COM button on the left. :) [01-May-25 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: How kind of you [01-May-25 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: anyone need anything shipped to benten? 1k t/m3 available [01-May-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: My 1k/1k shipping has already been accepted [01-May-25 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i know, i was going to accept it, but then it disappeared! :) [01-May-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: Maybe next time [01-May-25 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Adiklafa**: I'll find 100k PE for you [01-May-25 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: Hey anyone on gibson want some cheap shipping? I have a planetary exploration thing, so I might as well help someone out. 5/u, 3k/1k back to BEN only [01-May-25 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: I'm not part of the planet, otherwise I would just post this on their chat [01-May-25 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: I need fabs and have posted LM buys, if you have stock I'd be appreciative of the sale! [01-May-25 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **atlantisrising169**: ...There are no fab ads on the Gibson LM? I'm talking about shipping anyway [01-May-25 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: got you covered @neke [01-May-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: thanks em32!! [01-May-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: i posted one more story [01-May-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: shouldn't post ads and do calcs at 4am [01-May-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: mate why are you awake at 4am :) [01-May-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: kids [01-May-25 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: the real question is why am i on my phone [01-May-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: hey i mean i was up till 5 this morning [01-May-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: insomnia bby [01-May-25 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: love it [01-May-25 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neke86**: more time for simulating space commerce!! [01-May-25 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I am still thinking about what I want to do onceI outgrow Katoa [01-May-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: how crazy would be - for example - making ship parts? that sounds fun for me [01-May-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: pretty crazy [01-May-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: its expensive asf [01-May-25 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: like asf [01-May-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: no think as starting slow? [01-May-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: There's a bit of a loose tier structure. Like PIO and SET consumables are far easier for a new player to start making. To get into ship parts and such, I believe you need to think about higher tiers of workers, which results in your expenses going up. [01-May-25 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: ^ [01-May-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: you could make ssc witth only settlers i think tho [01-May-25 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: If I were aiming to get into ship parts, I'd look at what the prerequisites are for what you'd like to make and start aiming for those, especially if you find any with a decent demand. That way, you start owning the inputs. [01-May-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: https://prunplanner.org/tools/production-chain {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/tools/production-chain PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [01-May-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: the thing about ship parts is this: in many cases, you have to make everything yourself, because there's just no market for the intermediate parts [01-May-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: which makes it a challenging industry to get in to [01-May-25 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: yeah I didnt mean immediatelly start building ship parts as my secon base, but getting somewhat closer to it [01-May-25 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoffeeCupMassacre**: Is there much of a market for ship parts as it is? Repairs perhaps, but a lot of upgrades and new ship builds seem to go through folks who are already setup and making the parts. [01-May-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: maybe try this: head over to https://prosper.run/ and go to the production chain viewer. enter one of the ship parts (like FFC or something) and take a look at some of the precursor stuff. is there anything in that list of precursors that you'd like to build? {Embed} https://prosper.run/ Prosper: Production Chain Viewer Production chain viewer for Prosperous Universe [01-May-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I didnt even look at what parts are there :D [01-May-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: I was just thinking out loud [01-May-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: even upgrading my starting ships seems pretty far away [01-May-25 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i should do that more its a food idea [01-May-25 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: my first idea was to aim for construction prefabs, but I guess the market there is strong already.... [01-May-25 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: so I tohught maybe ship market would be less... satiated? [01-May-25 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **britishhater**: i dont think it is just hard to get into? [01-May-25 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: i think it's good to have both short-term goals and long-term goals [01-May-25 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **eminence32**: so there's nothing wrong with being interesting in ship building [01-May-25 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: not exactly building whole ships, but parts [01-May-25 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zaciss**: SSC didne seem quite proffitable, but needs only pioneers :D ============================================================== Exported 46,094 message(s) ==============================================================